Mom's Car: Jedidiah Jenkins

0:00Welcome to Mom's car. I'm Dak Shepherd. I am Aaron Weekly. And today we have Jedadaya Jenkins. We love Jedadaya Jenkins. He was one of the greatest guests on Armchair AxeVar. He's also a very long-time friend. I adore him. He's also an incredible author. He has three books, Mother Nature, to shake the sleeping self, like streams to the ocean. And he's got a new book, Look for it coming out in early 2027. Go quiet on the mountain. The power of stepping away from a world that never stops. We love Jedadaya. We do. We talk about a lot of sex in this one. So it's juicy. Please enjoy Jedadaya Jenkins. This episode is brought to you by Allstate. Checking Allstate first could save you hundreds on car insurance. Not checking the dress code at the new restaurant, showing up in sandals and getting turned away at the door. No fun at all. Yeah, checking first is always a good move. So check Allstate first for an auto quote. It could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. Potential savings vary subject to

1:03terms, conditions and availability. Allstate North American insurance company and affiliates Northbroke Illinois. We are supported by Uber Eats. Boom, boom, boom. In need of groceries, Uber Eats has you covered. From last minute ingredients to weekly essentials, get groceries delivered in as little as 25 minutes with Uber Eats. Get groceries delivered with Uber Eats. Terms apply, see up for details. Now let's get into the show. What I find so funny is I've spent a lot of time in Japan because my partner is Japanese. What's so interesting about him is we rented a car recently and then before we go, he's like, oh, we have to go to the car wash and vacuum and clean the car. I go, what? He's like, we're not returning this car dirty. It's a rental. And then if you saw it, the world cut the Japanese

2:07fans clean when they leave. It's a cultural mindset of like leave a place better than you found it, which is obviously incredible. Yeah, it's incredible. It is. Yeah, there's another said everything. He talks about being over there and he watches a woman. His little boy wants to put her hands on the glass of the subway. So first she puts down a towel that was in her purse. So he can put his knees on the arm rest and then when he's done, she cleans the window. This is just in his newest book about how terrible parents are in the US. Do you? Okay, this is a question. So Sideris famously has his little pocket notebook. And then all times, doesn't matter what's going on. He's making a little note about any interesting thing. Do you do that in your life in terms of like building out guests and questions? Like, are you? Do you have a version of that? No, but I've been with him and watched him drop down stuff. And I go like, God, I got to start doing. Can you tell what he's jotting down or is it random? Lewis at first. It's for my favorite pizza backwards. Okay. Yeah, I've been meaning to do that.

3:10I wish I could do that. But what's funny is now I think of jokes and I send them to him. Like I just now, if I think like the normally he's writing down funny little sentences that he hears mostly is what I've been able to clean from it. And so yeah, I just text him the other day. Like I thought of a great name for firefighter pants called um, thought it's gonna kill me. And then just the other day I was like, God, I don't I have that written down. I was I like that he physically writes it down. There's something I love about the tactile of having a little ledger of all your little question. Yes. But then some file on your phone. I kind of model the whole thing out and I kind of feel like I already know where it's going to go. Just gonna write all these things down. I'm gonna put them in some drawer when I get inspired to write. I'm not gonna be able to find the thing that I wanted. You know what pages that thing on. And I'm just very yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm very suspicious of how well I would be able to use. Have you heard the Woody Allen thing about the drawer? No, tell me that.

4:12My understanding is that he having made so many films, he has a drawer of like trinkets like the everything drawer that everyone has. Okay. He had it next to his bed or whatever. And he would once a year, maybe January 1st or whatever, he would open the drawer and pull out one of the things he put and write a script based on that object. Wow. He'll just keep things like weird little trinkets or whatever. And then whatever that year's script is and that is the jumping off point. Well, that's amazing. I don't know if it's true, but it's not what it's the true story. Yeah, me true. Like I've been meaning to text the dearest for two days because I thought that the greatest nickname for Trudeau, the Canadian ex prime minister, would be John F. Canada. Because isn't that good? Yeah. And I don't really write like that. Somebody has to have said that it's too good. I know. When I thought of it, I'm like, it's got to be out there. And I haven't done any research to see if it is. But I also came up with another one

5:13a couple years ago, which was, did you hear that Forbes just announced the richest man in Mexico? It's not. Oh, this is my favorite slammer. What are you going to say? Jeff Pesos. Oh, never, never. So like I immediately text him, man. And he's like, I can't wait to start saying his style of comedy. Oh, yeah, he loves wordplay. Like Gundar pants. He's really made. He saw that there were underwear specifically designed for shooters. Then he was so mad that they weren't called Gundar pants. What is what is the underwear doing? Probably some compression situation. I have no idea. Maybe you can tuck your pistol in them. I just, I don't know what it does. But the underwear was designed for shooters. And he saw it when he went shooting with his sister, it was like in a catalog of things. Have you ever shot like a major gun? I've literally shot every gun on planet earth because I've done two us O tours. And when you're there, that you're

6:15kind of reward for that is they let you fire every fuck. I've shot an RPG over my shoulder. Like standing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, standing. How does it not knock you over? That's not the issue. The issue is it's so loud. It's a rocket that's one inch from your ear. And when that thing rips out of the tube, it's pretty, and even with an ear plug in, it was like, oh, that's damaging. What gun has the gnarliest thing back? Well, I've shot AK 47 over there. I shot, I shot a fully auto grenade launcher. And in the desert, it's just fucking grenades are going off. I fired the howitzer, the fucking enormous cannon that lobs the shell this big. Yeah, you got to pull a cord in it. Shoot. I was on a KB out mountain. I was shooting actually into Pakistan on the border of Afghanistan. And okay, what do we learn now? Now we're going to eat a piece, a small pizza between us. In your life, both of your lives, do you find you're the driver or being driven? This is great.

7:19I am 100% the driver when I'm not with decks. When I'm with decks, I'm 100% of the time, the passenger. And even when I offer like, we're out on the boat pretty often together. And I'm like, you want to drive the boat? And he's like, no, I love sitting here. I'm checking out the scenery. Like, I don't really want to deal with that when I think about hitting logs and shit. I fucking, I don't, I feel a little bad because he never gets a break because I don't want one. But he doesn't. I'm in a relationship. But I really enjoy the, this role started when we were very young. So I love this. And I would never, ever be a passenger anywhere else. Tell him about our trip home from Salt Lake City. You know, we lived in a car for six months when we graduated high school. I was like, I was fulfilling my on the road dreams, right? We lived in his 1984 Mustang for, for a flat, where? We met people. We stayed in dorm rooms in, in Isla Vista, Santa Barbara.

8:20I mean, the reason I live in California is this trip. Like, we made friends in Santa Barbara, for friends everywhere. A taskadero we were. Oh, that was beautiful. Yeah, we occasionally slept in a field. Yeah, we had a tent. Yeah, this is mountains fields. Yeah, Mount Charleston. Make a movie about that. Because that's also a cool time period to see the movie. There was funny times in bed. That trip. Can't imagine that pie jank said ensued. The last part of our trip was we're going to Salt Lake City to see our friends that were in these punk rock bands. And so we're going to fucking party. And then from there, head home, which is about a 30-hour drive to Detroit. Mm-hmm. We took off. I fell asleep. It was a blizzard. It was. Did you drive that whole life on the road? Or did you not want? He didn't drive one time in six months. I won't. I think I drove someone else's car along the way. But you may have even driven the most thing without me. Like an established role. It was a natural expression of what you want. Yeah, I may have went to

9:21the store while he was staying somewhere. Yeah, it never happened where he was on the side. But it was a fucking horrendous blizzard. And you know this drums move West East, right? So you're driving with it? Yes. So go ahead and get on the other side of it. And the the Mustang was being a little finicky. And we had blown the rear end right on the day before. And they're like, we had no money to get the rear end replaced by this guy. And there was a whole thing with the double clutch in the shift. It was a it was a it was a whole process to drive it at this point. And rear wheel drive. So the fucking thing had no weight. rear wheel drive big motor. So it did not want to be in a blizzard. I fished out for 36 hours. It was zero visibility. Pure white knuckles, dry, black, dry eyes are a mix. You know, I kind of live for that. So I kind of am loving the challenge. I'm watching semis fly up the road. I'm watching people in four by four

10:21is not going as fast as we are. You know, so I love it. No, it is it is from Detroit. You can drive in the snow unlike many other people. And my identity is that I'm a great driver. So it's like, here's how I prove here's an opportunity to prove that suffice to say after 30 hours of it. Yeah, I was I was pretty fucking fried. I fell asleep in Salt Lake. I didn't wake up. So well, we were an hour from home. 29 hours. What do you mean? At least at least that. And I couldn't keep my eyes open. Well, he wakes up and it's still snowing. So I think he might be my own mean or something. He goes, we're harrowing. I go, dude, we're a fucking hour from home. God bless you. I could be in the center of the earth so far from light. And at eight hours, I will spring away get my entire body will hurt and get tell me to get out of that. I couldn't agree more. And wait here. My age is that goes down to about five and a half hours. We're just like, I'm too uncomfortable. My body aches everywhere. Get me out of feed three times. I'm walking up to pee.

11:24And then finally I go, fuck it. And let's just go. Let's just fucking get up. Get it over with. This is this soap in, but you know how like Spotify does, Spotify wrapped. And it's like, you listened to Whitney Houston 39 hours. I want a annual wrap of everything. Oh, that would be great. How many times did I say fuck this year? How long was I in the toilet this year? Yeah. Wouldn't that be the coolest searchable database? Yes. Oh, we got to be. But then also like, let's say you date somebody and you fall in love and you're dating them and then you can go, have I ever been close to this person before and I didn't realize it? And then shows you guys were at Disneyland in 2015 and you were two meters away. And you did well, even think model out all the different things that would happen within your arguments with your partner because your all partners make these statements like you're always on your Instagram or you're always do this and you always do that and to be able to just go,

12:24hey, how off, you know, what percentage do I do that? Sorry, that's bullshit. Now let's talk realistically about this because everyone's exaggerating. You can end of the year report of what's the truth and then you can find it. And it'll solve nothing because it's emotions. You'll think you're now clear. Because it really matter if you are or not, they feel that you are and that's when he's to be addressed. You catch yourself when you're arguing with your partner. We go like, I say those statements, right? Like, no, you're always and I go, you're often? Yep. Well, I tried to be moral about it. So this is the challenge. So I'm two years in and we have had constructive conversations, but no real arguments. He's Japanese and he's very conflict at verse, conflict at verse and so am I, but we're also very conversation forward. Like, I don't want to go to that party. Okay. Oh, okay. Like, and maybe it's because we're older. That sounds lovely. Now, do you run into this though? My friend named, produced a movie in Japan and he said that

13:26something he noticed culturally pretty quick, which was so hard to deal with for us is that often, they just say, yes, no matter what, but they didn't mean yes. And if you were Japanese, you would have seen the other nuance, nuance things that are going on. That was really no, but he's just hearing yes. And then the things not happening. And someone's explaining like, well, no, he looked this way when he said, yes, you know, all these intricate things. And generally, they're not going to say no. There's a word for this and I'm forgetting the name. It's that these amazing Japanese words. Japanese people have three faces. They have the face they show the world, the face they show their close friends and the face only they know. And the very famous Japanese culture that we all know is that outward face of I got to go to Mars like very respectful, very sweet. But that is not the truth. Inside, it's a war zone. And they're having a lot of feelings. Yeah. So I've been very trepidated trepidated around that with him. Do you feel like you're with a chicken time bomb? Well, I do. I wonder.

14:28I really wonder. I don't think I am. But I could be so stable. He was untenable to me. We will be I mean, it won't very much see. Okay. So also there's a pretty good size language barrier, right? Because Christen met him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He does not speak a ton of English. He does. He does. Maybe not out and about. He is shy around his English around new people. Okay. It makes him claim up. And when I don't even clock the language, very accepted, it's cute when he won't be able to pronounce parsley. Sure. How does he say parsley? Hustle. Oh, lovely. I went ask him to say parsley all day. Now, try to get him to say he did rivalry in his war zone that you cannot imagine. I just saw like a trend on either Instagram. I don't take tags almost on Instagram. But yeah, Asian people trying to say a specific word. I wish a refrigerator is really. I think that's what it was. They can't even so. Yes. And many of them can't even attempt it. Right? It's like,

15:29how I felt growing up trying to read words. Like, oh, I don't even have a guess about how this starts. Oh, there's Japanese words that he'll say that I can't even begin to make my tongue go. They do this little like this little dance. So how did you guys meet? We met on Tinder. I expanded my radius. To Japan. Well, I was just like, well, that's, you know, that's how Raya is. Does it is worldwide? Raya is worldwide, which is like annoying because then if you're like matching with someone in Hong Kong, what now? Yeah, they're assuming you're so global that whatever with no. You're constantly in a jet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like the weird mentality I had was, I would have my things set to five miles, a circle around my house. And I'm thinking, what if the love of my life is five and a half miles away? That's, that seems very narrow, Yurif. Well, but it's annoying to drive far. So then I tried to go, but it sounds very, you know, I'd go on a bunch of dates and those five miles and then I would make it. So you're airing your privilege of living in LA. Like if you're gay,

16:30yeah, in the middle of Iowa, you're fucking radius would have to be like a thousand miles. Oh, no, yeah. No, five miles. Like there's, there's, and there is. There's enough dudes within five miles. It is no problem. Now that I am partnered, I actually, I do not miss the apps that I'll accept for this one element, which is getting on an app and seeing how different gays are in different parts of this country. Oh, yeah. Like you go Nashville and you open it up and it is like yellow polos grooming, like they're all Christian traumatized, but they want to like present. They have like rosacea. They're like pale. They're stressed out. Or they're like trying to be this like performance. Oh my god. It's Morgan Wall and Beast. It's like this really interesting cultural expression and I miss checking in on that. I'll reference the bill, Burjok, right? He's telling this great story in his red rock standout. He's in town shooting a movie, playing a firefighter. So he gets up working. He's walking back to his hotel. So he's in this huge mustache. And he's in like shorts or whatever. And then he realizes, oh, it's also pride week in manhasses. Well, clearly

17:33everyone's like, yeah, that dude's a fucking day dude. He's got this huge mustache, whatever. He goes, and then I see this lesbian walking at me. I know how do I know she's a lesbian. The same way you do. That is so brilliant. Yeah. Everyone thinks they know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I will say the times that I've been pretty confused, it is exactly the super sweet Christian boy. Because again, I don't have a ton of familiarity with that Christian world. But so often, I'm like, I don't know. Super Christian loves Jesus or gay. Yeah. That was a little and a lot of a lot of you. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you said something years ago that I think about a lot, which was there was somebody that we knew that was like coming out as bisexual. And you go, there, gay. And I go, I don't know. I think they're bisexual. And you go, you asked me the question, go, have you ever seen a man that was straight who comes out as by, it does not slide all the way

18:35to gay and then stay gay. Do they ever go back and date a girl after that? Like once they've gone gay to the ever go back. And I said, I have never seen that. Well, and I ended up talking to that person. And we're close enough for me to say this. I'm like, is it possible that it feels a little less shocking here, family and a little more comforting that you still have a foot in this other world? And he said, I don't know. I don't think it's that because I like boobs. And I go, okay, there are two doors behind one door is a dude with a six pack and a 10 inch dick. And on the other door, there's a girl with really buoyancy boobs. Are you ever walking into the door with the boobs? And he goes, oh, I'm not. That's great. That's great. That's great. I love it. In fact, I like it more. No competition with you now. Yeah. You're very charming. Stay tuned for more, mom's car. We are supported by all state. Checking all state first could save you hundreds on car insurance. Not checking that your best man

19:37speech is in your jacket pocket. You rode a week ago. Practice it in the mirror. But now you're up there. 200 people staring at you. Completely winging it, sweating through your rental tucks. Yikes. Yeah, checking first is always the right move. So check all state first for an auto quote. It could save you hundreds during good hands with all state potential savings. Very subject to terms conditions and availability all state North American insurance company and affiliates North Broke Illinois. This is an interesting question. What I would love to know how you fall. Both of you. This is a made up analysis. But I think that there's so many types of sexuality that we like force things into binaries and trying areas and whatever. But like I've met people that are turned on by being attractive. And so they are straight. But they have had gay experiences because they're hot and they are turned on by being hot. I can totally relate to that observation because what is hot to me is that you're horny for me. Like when people get into like, oh, she's not this or her

20:40feet weren't that or that I'm like, I don't even know what you're talking about. Like for me, like, if I make someone horny, that is so exciting. We're going to have a very fun time. Like that is the most important aspect to me. It's just like, if you're super hot for me, I find that very attractive and I would like to be with that. I want to be with someone who wants to be with me. That's going to be way more fun. I want to consume. I don't care to be consumed. And I think that has a lot to do with maybe like not feeling like I was part of the game or ashamed of my body growing up or whatever it was. It's like I was always looking from afar and being like, I want that. And so I want to devour it and I don't even consider being devoured. What about you? I'm actually pretty much with that. I know that excitement and feeling of being adored and desired. Yes. And I will look past maybe a lot of things you might think that I would normally look at a flower and go, if you're just going to picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was looking at

21:43pictures. That's probably why I'm glad I wasn't in the app world. I have been very superficial in the past and I did a little, you had a rod, a instant of hot enough app world app. But you know what I'm saying, Jeff, like if the guy looking at you, you can see in his face, he's so hot for you. Yeah. And so horny for you. Isn't that so does that not give you the, no, trust me it does, but I still am in a healing journey with that. Okay. Like because I get that from my partner. And like and sometimes he's like ready to eat me and it's scary. I'm like, oh my god. Yeah. And then, and then this is very revealing, but this is true. My sexuality, like when I watch porn, I was this is the best way to describe it. When I watch porn, I wear the dudes just clearly doing the thing he wants to do. And he's fucking making the girl choke and all this stuff. I'm not turned on it all. The pornography that gets me really excited is like if I really buy into the fact that the woman's super horny and actually orgasm. And by the way, you got to dig through the haystack. Oh, my God. I was going to say that is fine. Rare. It's just so clearly a performance and

22:47they're not getting any pleasure out of it. And this is probably a selfish desire, but maybe sex is inherently selfish. My dream is that they think I was the best that they ever had. I want to give them the platinum package. And I hope that the walk away going that was the best experience I ever had. And I want that way more than I want to come. Yeah. Like I've even talked to people friends who have like, we'll talk about exocene sex is so fun on exocene. Yeah, you can't come generally. Yeah. So people go like, oh, I kind of hate it because you can't come. And I'm like, I'm the opposite. I'm like, I can't come. All I can do is provide pleasure. And I can observe the pleasure. And it's the best sex you can have for me. I've heard that like there's also two ways of watching porn. You're the person doing the thing or you're you're imagining you're the person being done upon. Oh, okay. Like you want to be the person that's providing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, ultimate pleasure. Hmm. Well, I've experienced that. It's very interesting. In the gay world, there's tops and there's bottoms. Yeah. There's verse. Do you know these things? Yes, I do.

23:48We were taught that. Okay. And are they percentage wise? My understanding is it is predominantly bottoms on the apps. I think so. Well, bottoms generally, this is obviously a major generalization. Bottoms they carry with them a more forward feminine energy because they want to receive rather than deliver. Yeah. And that feminine energy is often harder to assimilate into heteronormative society. And so they generally are more out there. A lot of like heteronormative tops can like hide or are still ashamed of their sexuality. And they're doing this. This and I love Pasadena. Yeah, this is gorgeous. I love a bungalow with my whole heart. Oh, there it is. There it is. Oh, oh, oh, all right. I'm going on in there. Who are you? I'm obsessed with houses. So I look in all these different accounts that have houses and by God, there was a fucking house for sale the other day here in Pasadena. It's on a goddamn lake. I'm like, there's a lake in Pasadena. You can look on a lake in Pasadena. What? All right, let's deliver some Uber Eats, shall we? They have a big antenna. Oh, and they seem to be breeding Chihuahua's. That's scary.

24:52Teeting him the coke. Oh, oh, there he goes. Look at here. He realized, oh, he really did hear you. What was that? Okay, we're going to tax my dog. Yeah. And a real way like what? Yeah, oh, yeah, like a dog jumped out of a picture window. How big? A fucking movie. A German shepherd. When I was five, were you sure of dogs forever? No, I guess that's my German shepherd at age five. You were. I was. You were. Yeah, yeah. It was. I'm sure I've told you this along the way, but it was my neighbor in the Rolex neighborhood. Oh, sure. They had very, very low income neighborhood. Yeah, they had most dogs roamed the neighborhood. But this one was particularly mean and vicious. And you know, that's a status. And it's ever kind of. And he did Caucasian, African, and his coca-canjus. Anyway, he fucking jumped through the window through a big,

25:56like broke it, where picture window. Oh, yeah, yeah, jump through it like it wasn't even there. Can he fucking rip me off that bike and just fucking started tearing into my leg? And how did you get away? My dad was there. Yeah, but I'm really violent. I am fucking love dogs. Yeah, so and I can't. I know you have gorgeous dogs. Yeah, yeah. Like doodly gorgeous. Stupidest doodles. Yeah, so course. Who doesn't have a doodle nowadays? Okay, I have a question. I don't know if you use X. I don't know why I still do it. It's just because the people I follow are still there. If I watch a video on X, it auto, it's trying to be TikTok. And I'm going to auto-plays another one. Yeah, every single time it's like it, I'll be watching like project runway or some like cute gay thing and then it swipes up to like the most brutal street fight I've ever seen. It must know that I want to watch them. Yeah, they're my, I have the same algorithm. And so, so anyway,

26:57it showed this video of a pit bull grabbing onto like a five year old's leg in a playground. But the adults are scared of the pit bull too. So they're like taking like a broom and going, oh, trying to tap the pit bull. And I'm thinking what should an adult do? Like am I supposed to headlock, like jump on the back like what would you do? There's an answer. So if you don't have a hose, I hate being sprayed with water, right? So you're supposed to spray in with a hose and in the absence of that year, supposed to put your thumb up their ass. If you put your thumb in their ass while that's happening, they'll stop. I'm told that's supposed to be this is an update because you're not getting those jaws. Yeah, you would get your own channel locks. Yeah, but wait, when I got on the car, you were starting to tell me about, okay, you guys know there's tops and there's bottoms. Yeah, we're back in verse and verse. And just tells me that verse is generally a lie. No, I'm verse. Oh, okay. But so here's what's so interesting about this. So I always thought I was top. I also come from a Christian background or whatever. I was like so embarrassing to be gay. And so you

27:57want to do the fucking around here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I always thought I was an exclusive top. And then I was dating a guy who he was also an exclusive top. And this is what's interesting is like early in the dating app era, you didn't say what you were. Okay, you just were a guy. You're a guy. Now a lot of these places, you say it, especially on hookup app, like grinder. Yeah, but it's also limiting because some people like you think you're a top and then I dated this guy and he wanted to top me and I was so in love with him. I was like, oh, okay, like let's try. I mean, people these these loud bottoms seem to love this. So what do they know? And apparently, and apparently our jeez spot is up there. Yeah, yeah, so let's find out. Yeah, anyway, and it was so profound. Like by the way, I mean, obviously it hurt whatever I got there. But like the act of receiving someone inside you is so spiritually different than putting yourself in someone else. You have the trust involved in all that. It is and I can't get pregnant. Yeah,

28:59but it's like that act and it felt weirdly so much more powerful. Like I was like, I decide if you can come in here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it was like so expanded my worldview. And I was like, everybody that doesn't do this is like missing a major like code. Yeah, yeah, but then I'm still predominantly a top. Right, right, right. But it was a ton of sense to me. It was a very profound exchange to learn in your 30s. I was like, wow, there's like parts of my body that I didn't even know were there. And then there's all these people in the world who have no idea. Yeah, like a friend of mine, I won't say his name, but the one who's informed me on most of my knowledge. Yeah, his thing is he rides guys and he is either jerking off or they jerk him off. And I was like, yeah, that sounds fucking radical. Like you have things are happening everywhere. Yeah, that sounds like an all-encompassing experience to be riding a dick in jerk. Little jealous. It's fun. To think that you have a sexual life. And then you like as you're learning and you're experiencing

30:03and trying new things with your own body and what there's like it's kind of a fun. And you're also getting into the magic of sex, which is I think it's this opportunity to physically display the level of trust you have that the other person loves you and likes you and there's nothing you could do that would be gross or disgusting or off putting. It's like each layer like I remember we were watching that great show beef the first season. And there was this super hot sex scene and like they spit each other's mouths and that became a big topic in our circle. And we were like, I don't get it. So disgusting. I go again. And I go, that's the point. It's so offensive and gross. Two people have agreed that they trust each other to do it. Like that's, don't you see? That's what's happening. Like they want to become one. Take all my fluids. Take everything I've got. And all the things I would never do because I'd be embarrassed. I'm going to let you see. Like it's a real display of trust. And I think it's rad. I mean, I would never be interested in BDSM. But that's like it at its zenith, right? Like you have the ability right now. I'm constrained. You could hurt me.

31:08I trust you so much that I know you can take me right to the point of almost hurting me. But I know you, you know, like I get it intellectually. It's going. I have a friend who's really, I don't know what it's called. He's really end of being tied up. There's a term like where he's like hung like a chandelier. Oh wow. And it's like, it's like, I mean, I can't. Who is the time for this sex? That's my first thought of like this is a construction project. It's not sex. It's like, it's like, okay. It's sexually energized. But it's not nothing's happening. But he just like loves it. And I'm like, wow, there's so many things going on. Like, yeah, like we are conscious and it skips along the surface of what's really going on. Yeah, which I love. Sometimes I feel so normal. I'm kind of boring. I know. I'm like, can a guy just hop on missionary couple of times? I was saying I was crazy, but until the fucking all this came internet. I'm like, oh, I guess I'm not even crazy at all. Okay. So back to your partner. How far did you expand your radius? Obviously not to Tokyo, but I made it to 60 miles, which is as big as you can go. Okay, 60 miles.

32:13He was 58 miles. Oh my. Oh, wow. So damn. I mean, there's confirmation bias there because I mean, that is as far as you can go. But like, then I met him and we fell in love. So it's like, if I hadn't, I would have kept expanding my radius in other ways. So it's like, that is a thing that worked for you. So now that's the solution. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, you find your keys where they last were. It's like the search is over. Yeah, yeah. Right. So I remember I got really mystery sick when my first book came out. What's mystery sick? Meaning I went to the ER 10 times and I did every test. They drained me of my blood and they couldn't solve it. What were your symptoms? Uh, I lost 30 pounds. I would sweat a bucket of sweat every night. I would have to, I would sleep on six towels and peel them away throughout the night. Oh, I was like, dang it fever. Yeah, and it was like six weeks. Okay. And then my book came out and it went away. Yeah. Oh, wow. Which is my friends like it's psychosomatic. You were so afraid that this book was going to blow up your life that your body was trying to stop you. Yeah. Yeah. All they say, I went back to the doctor

33:15for my like final checkup and I was like, well, do you want to keep doing these tests to figure out what she goes, no, like you probably don't want to. It's expensive and like it went away. She's like, this happens all the time. People don't want to keep going to the hospital. So they just stop. Right. And then they never solve it. She was like, this is a tale is all the time. There's so many mystery things. Do you know, I had an expert on and she was a neurologist in England. And of course, the National Health Service there, you have better access to group data and stuff. So what she had found in neurology was that 30% of the people having seizures did not have epilepsy. And in fact, you would go like, okay, so it's psychosomatic. And she's like, that term really means nothing. They're having seizures. And in fact, people who don't have epilepsy, who have seizures have them more often. It's actually worse. And our treatment currently is just to go like, well, you don't have epilepsy. So it's all in your head. And then people's like, well, now what? Right. Right. I'm still suffering. She and her whole thing was like, we've got to figure out how

34:15to treat these people. And there's no she that's like psychosomatic is you throw that away. She said, she started talking to other department heads. And she said, even the cardiology department, 30% of all heart attacks are not results of heart disease. And it's almost standard of this 30% of number is is psychosomatic. But it's like, who cares? Right. But we have 20% is a huge amount. Yes. Good deal to people they're seeing. They don't have a treatment for the unique cognitive behavioral therapy. You need all these different things. And so we're ill equipped to deal with those people. We're just like, get them out of here. I deal with epilepsy. I can treat with this drug. You know, stints for this. And so they just don't have any tools. But it's a huge percentage of people suffering from these things. Are you in a relationship? Yeah. Married. You have doggy children. Do you have human children? I have human children with my ex-wife. How old are that? 14, 15, 19,

35:1615. Are you guessing or is that no? You know when they start or center? Is that right? You know, it's well, I don't know if you know, but like I start thinking I'll close my one daughter is the 16 and I want to say six. I'm like, no, she's still 15. And you start trying to do the math of when this episode will come. Yeah, I don't want to get it wrong. Yeah. I was 14. I was 40 for two years because I was like, I'm basically. Yeah. But yeah, Jed, I got sober almost seven years ago. And the reason I'm saying it is a year after I got sober, I met my now wife. And she was living out here in Long Beach. She now lives in Michigan. So yeah, it's been awesome. I love your word choice there. You said my now wife. I hear sometimes people say my current wife, which seems to imply it might not be there. But I say her wife is, it feels natural to say, but when I hear it, I'm always like, that doesn't feel terribly committed. My wife for now. Yeah. So anyway, we've

36:19been raised. We're kind of not quite new. But it's been a few years now. Well, that leads me to my question, which I want to ask you both is now that I have a good thing that's going well. And I've been on such a journey. I was like virgin till I was 30, had my first kiss at 28. Like listen to the armchair. I'm sure next. So I do it. Yeah. I love a blah blah. But so I was and then I spent my 30s as my rum spring at tasting the rainbow and having my heart broken left and right. And then I really found this guy, which is really going well, but I really also feel like there's some. I had to go down all those avenues and trial those things and get hurt by them to realize and reach 40 where I really felt something shift. And I was like, why am I chasing idiots when I should be chased? Why shouldn't I like, would you say with the amazing women in your life, you reached a place where you could receive them or they were just always going to be met for you if you met them when you were 19. Did it matter what place you were? Well, this has been explaining me by

37:20several gay friends of mine. And I really do co-sign on this, which is so often you were having the relationships I had in seventh grade. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And in ninth grade. And then, you know, exactly. But by the time I graduated, you know, that girlfriend I had in my senior year, we were together for five years. I think a very substantial relationship you learn a lot of them. And then when I meet Bri and my 20s, I've already had a five year really. So it's like, yeah, of course you are learning to value yourself, wait to someone that really is into you, is into you. All those kind of things. But I think you really figured that out in high school really kind of quickly. I think you get burned. Yeah, yeah. You realize you were an idiot. You know, all these things are accelerated, I think. If you're straight and growing up in the eighties, you're probably where I was at, you know, when I met Bri, I was with for nine years. Yeah. If you've seen this data, I think this is really, really, there's a lot of comedy in it. There's a lot of social science in it. You know, this divorce rate statistics that are out like 51% or what? I don't know. Oh, no, it's what do

38:20you think is the highest divorce rate? Oh, like between groups. Yeah, straight people. Lesbians. Really? They have the highest divorce rate. And then who do you think second? We don't know it's smart. Who would you think would be second? Well, I thought straight people. Yeah, right. So we got to go straight people now, right? Yeah, they're straight people. And then gay men have the lowest divorce rate. Which is exactly. And I think that's very counter to it. Yeah. Right. And I've talked to a few friends of mine who are gay and in relationships. And I've asked how would they explain that? And I want to know what you're explaining. I have a theory. Yeah, hit me because we don't have a biological clock. I don't think we're in a hurry to get married. So you're probably not getting married at 23. And so you're actually having lots of sexual experiences. So if you're are going to settle down with someone you've had all the sex you want for now, then you settle down. And now you've actually found a partner that works well for your life and they have good interior design taste and they like nice sushi. Sure. Sure. So then. And then it's actually in gay culture, not that big of a deal to be like, should we sleep around a little bit? And I'll just see you tonight.

39:22I would say that's biological because it must be a biological response by a female to be like, don't sleep around because a, you're going to impregnate someone else or I could get impregnated. Like that's not fun for me. And we've had to think that way for three million years. So like, it's new to be free in that way. But gay men don't have that fear. So it doesn't create that same sense of like you're abandoning me. I love that theory. Stay tuned for more mom's car. Aaron, you're making dinner for a friend in your ordering groceries on Uber Eats. What is the signature dish you're going to hit them with? Pot roast. Oh, baby, I had it last night. I'm so glad you picked that. You knew I was going to say that. And guess what, girl, you were out of potatoes and you Uber Eats. So sons of guns over Eats potatoes, carrots, onions, some beef broth. It came in 25 and we killed the whole thing in 15. Yeah. Yeah. We are supported by Uber Eats. Do you love cooking? But dislike having to find parking and

40:23wandering aisles trying to remember if you're actually out of certain ingredients because same. The good news is you can skip the grocery run and have what you need delivered in as little as 25 minutes with Uber Eats. Shop fresh produce, pantry essentials, and all that everyday good stuff from your favorite grocery stores. Whether you're stocking up for the week, grabbing a few essentials or getting ingredients for tonight's dinner, Uber Eats makes grocery shopping easy. Less time shopping, more time for everything else. And you don't even have to put your shoes on. So many wins. Get your groceries delivered with Uber Eats, save 20% off your first order of $60 plus with code mom's car 20. Terms apply, see app for details. I'm glad I heard the first part. That's a very thoughtful part about the risk that you take on as a woman versus a man. Although in a lesbian relationship, that's not really that present. Yeah. As far as whether you're going to carry a child or not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But the friends I've

41:28asked, they're like, well, yeah, most long-term married gay guys or many of them, let's say, are in open relationships. Yeah. And so I think that's wonderfully counterintuitive, yeah, yeah, yeah, bit of data, right? I'm one of these like degenerate millennials, where I watch a lot of YouTube. Like I watch more YouTube. I remember there was like a, there was a stat that said YouTube just surpassed Netflix. It's more than all of the streamers combined. Incredible. Yeah. So anyway, I contribute. My algorithm knows me so well. And it showed me this like animated history of homosexuality in ancient Rome. Okay. And I was like, click. Yeah. Yeah. Because I want to know because also when you're dealing with your sexuality and you live in the south and in Southern Baptist culture. And I remember learning that everyone was gay in ancient Greece. So it's like, what's going on? Yeah. And it's always been to me a really interesting, hard to avoid fact when people say it's biological. Yeah. So I'm like, it may be biological. It's also certainly

42:30cultural because the biology of Greek men didn't change. Right. Right. But they don't do that. You know, well, so Christianity came along. This, I forget if it was Greece or Rome, I think it was Rome because it was Caesar's. So it was very common in ancient Rome, especially men of power, men of status had twin pre-pubescent boys or early puberty boys as concubines, sex slaves, even though they were almost always married to a woman. Uh-huh. If you were a like pre-pubescent sex slave boy for a Caesar, it was very good for your standing in society. You could like kind of rise up there. It's like good for your family. You got to cut the line for the bread, yeah. Yeah. But some of these Caesars would fall in love with these boys, of course. Sure. But they were saying it's actually hard to call them gay or straight because the sexuality back then was purely power based. Are you higher status, lower status, whatever. So that sort of like what we were talking about earlier is like, do you find me sexy? It's like, are you powerful bestowing your attention on me? I'm a rouse or whatever. Yeah. And back then, heterosexual sex was so dangerous because like one and three women

43:32died in childbirth. And so it really loved your wife. You didn't have sex with her very often. Whoa. Huh. You did it to have heirs and you because you were afraid it would kill her. Wow. And so they would get their rocks off with these boys. Yeah. And so there's so much, and then a lot of that's happening there, falling in love with these boys and they have concomitant like relationships with them, whatever. I thought that was so interesting. Well also the other explanation I heard was like, you know, these war campaigns or sometimes five years that they would have left Rome or left Athens and they're out there going to, you know, fight whoever or a fucking one year walk away. And then the battles are slow. You know, whatever. Like so they're all just with men. Yeah. And then you get more the prison phenomena where there are men. I just had an expert on talking about this. I'm an old man that in prison, of course, are having sex with other men, but then they get out and they don't. So, you know, the the flexibility of human sexuality is on display even in front of us currently. And then back then, yeah, that makes sense.

44:34And it was, yeah, said to me that basically it was like older soldiers had younger soldiers. Yeah. Because what the fuck else were they going to do for five years? Yeah. Be sexual beings. I'm curious like in places when stigma is removed, what is the actual percentage of people that would experiment and play? Like if they're truly there was no energy put towards it negative at all, I just like do whatever you want. I challenged myself with this right? So like, as you know, you've known me for 20, 19 years now, I was the one who took you to lunch and said, Jed, you got to be with other men. You cannot, God does not leave you lonely in your whole life. It cannot be the problem. Right? It's so true. So I couldn't be more supportive of it. And even like I try to watch it very popular show that was out recently that everyone loved. And when the gay sex starts, I'm just like, yeah, I don't enjoy watching. Yes. Right? Because I don't want to be doing this. So I can't put myself in either of these people's shoes. And then I do go, it's so weird that I'm, I've always been so comfortable with it. And yet for me, it's just insanely clear that's

45:38not anything that would ever give me a boner. I think that's the concept creep of people being okay with it, almost being like a tell that they are where it's like, I couldn't have had more pressure to be straight. Right. It would have been so socially beneficial. It would have been familially beneficial. It would have taken. And yet I cannot be with a woman. And I'm not against it. Yeah. I love women. And I'm glad they're beautiful to some people. Sure. Sure. Sure. So all that to say, like, the spectrum is wide. And there are many people clumped at the ends of the spectrum. But I'm curious how many people fall in the middle. Did you see the Charlie Sheen documentary? Yes. Now that was a hit. Don't say it. Cause I mean, we can talk about it as if you have. I actually don't hate spoilers when something's been out for a year. No. Yeah. And people are like, don't say that. How long we gonna fucking wait for you? Like you're fucking lazy. And I got a now I can't mount this topic for the rest of my life. Cause you can't get away watching Game of Thrones. Where do you fall on this life? I think now we've reached there is a generation of people who have never seen

46:41the six cents. Sure. Sure. Like I bet they know the ending of six cents. But what does they don't? I think I was just talking about this with Monica. Like the amount of books I could tell you about who wrote them, the title, what the books about. I haven't read it because it's common knowledge. Yeah. There's just so many. I know. I know the story of them or if even someone's trying to think of it, I'll tell you that's that book. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't read it, but I know it. And I just have to imagine since the six cents has been such a punchline for decades now that probably everyone knows. I don't know. I think people don't know. But I know what you're saying. They know now. You feel bad of robbing someone of that joy you experienced not knowing. I will never forget that moment. Yeah. Yeah. There's a few incredible ones. Usually suspects have. Oh, yeah. What a moment. Don't spoil that. I'll have to go. That's more important. I've just cited that one. That one's more important. Yeah. But also that one

47:41may be more people haven't seen it because it's not as like I see. Yeah. I think six cents is ubiquitous. Okay. So now you extend your range. He's 58 or 9 miles from you. And then what's the way? Sorry, five miles is the minimum, right? Yeah. And you went from the minimum. Then you know, there were months, like there were years where I was expanding or like over the course of the year. Oh, I thought you jumped from a. Yeah. I've heard me building. Well, because I mean, we deliver Uber Eats to Pasadena, but like that's in LA. That's far for risk for a date. I mean, I had to learn the hard way. Like you don't go to dinner. You go to coffee or a beer. Like you need to be in and out. You have to have a fake reason to only have an hour because you can tell the vibe in five minutes. Yeah. I know. I've told you this, but my favorite part of hearing my friends journey on Grindr, which he used excessively, one might say, every experience I think you can have on it. Yeah. And he was saying, you know, there's all these customs, which is you have

48:42the dude over to your house. It's customary to offer him a water. And it's also known you shouldn't accept it already. That's hilarious that that is like figured out. It's so. It's safer than I know. Okay. And he's like, yes, so you know, the guy comes over. I offer him a water. He doesn't take it. And we kiss it for a second. And then I, I look at his dick. And if it's not as advertised, I come up and I go, oh, I don't think we're a match. And then I go, oh, okay, cool. And then he leaves. And I said, I want to say this. I'm going to call Mike. Let me tell you, if I met a woman somewhere, I kissed her for a few minutes. Pulled her pants down. Look at her pussy. Instead, we're not a match. That would ruin that person's life. I can't even imagine how cruel that would be. And I'm like, this sounds awesome. Yeah. But there has to be something to the chase. Doesn't the straight world have field? Have you heard of this? No, what's that?

49:43My understanding field, I've never looked at it. I've heard people talk about it. It's like the straight grinder. It's like, oh, it's like hook up. It's like very clear. I want you to come over here and whatever. Slap my ass and leave in five seconds. Whatever it is. Like you can be, it's like the free for all. Do whatever you want. Put it out there and see if it like go fishing and see who bites. Yeah. And people like are loving it. All that to say. I would love to see the breakdown of their hours of max activity. Right? Because it's got to just, I think when women are hammered. Yeah. Yeah. They're far more likely, you know, I just wonder if that thing at like drunk drinking hours, this is night day. Grinders hot all day. Yes. Yeah. All day. All night. I think you've ever looked at it. Plusy and would have said no. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Even if I didn't love it. I was kind of thinking, I really looked at it. I'm thinking. Do you really just look at that? Oh god. Yeah. Well, in the same way you imagine you love penises, right? I do. Yeah. But I love asses more.

50:44Okay. Great. I love asses too. But I love vaginas. I love ariolas. I love nipples. I love like, like, did he and naked woman be like, look at that. I can't wait to see her. But just hold. I know. I do go in for the ass all too. I remember and this was kind of telling it saddened me when I was talking to Chris at one time and I said, if you lined up 10 of your axes, penises and a photograph, would you be able to say who's was who? And she goes, no. And I'm like, oh my god. That like the amount of worry men have about whether they're all like, penises and it's not even committed to memory. And she goes, could you line up vaginas and I go, oh, yes. And I would do very well. Yeah. Yeah. And she's like, how they don't even look different. And I'm like, you don't know what you're talking about. They look so different. That's part of the excitement is the novelty. Yeah. Also like girls will stress out about, I hear this. You know, they they they have fear that their vaginas don't look right. This was in the goop,

51:46Gwyneth Paltrow. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, you guys don't get it. If it doesn't look different, that's thrilling. This is like so memorable. And this is a new thing I get to experience. And it's like there's no. Can it look bad? I mean, you have your preferences for sure. Like you'll talk to guys and like they hate hair. Other guys love hair. I grew up in the 80s looking at a playboy and a woman had a bush. Like that was that's what's delineated her from young kids or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It just was like womanliness. So I like it both ways. But I like I love that. But I know a lot of younger guys are like, oh, no, I don't even want to fuck with that. I'm like, I don't what's wrong with yeah. Give it to me. Also, beggars cannot be exactly what are we talking about? You must be doing it. And there'll be guys that are like, oh, they hate long labia. And I'm like, fucking rad. Let's go. But some dudes are picked. But there's also dudes that don't like feet and shit. I'm like, what is wrong with you? You're fucking here's a tip. Don't look at her fucking feet. You got to go out of your

52:46way to see someone's feet. Could you look at it? If you isolated, if you isolated boobs, uh-huh people, could you tell who it was? Yes. I can see them now. I don't even need to see the photo. I can see it perfectly in my head. I don't think I could do nipples, but that's not surprising. Yeah. They're not heavily involved in the activity. They're a rather man, right? Yeah. Yeah. But penis is you would know, right? You would know. I would know the major players. There's been like there's been some drunk and nights where who knows what I said. Well, yeah. And also, look, I was a bit addicted to it. And I was famous for a while. So yeah, I had a moment relationships and situations. Did you ever go into a girl's apartment or what? And you're like, I can't do this. You're disgusting. Oh god. No. Oh, were you asking me? Yeah. Mother. I got into the fucking one. Okay. Well, what about one and a big style? Yeah. I have a fucked an actual pink. Well, like, you're like, I can't be around.

53:47Mother and garbage. No. You clock that you won't probably be in a relationship with this person. Do you want to hear my breakthrough when I realized I had a problem? Yes. I'll just say another experience just so maybe you'll know what I'm talking about. When I decided to, that was going to ask Kristin to marry me and I was going to buy an engagement ring. And I went to the store and I got the ring and we're at the point where he's asking for the credit card. And as I'm handing my credit card, I stopped and I'm like, oh my god. What is this? I'm having a very, very, very specific feeling that I've had before. And he's like, are you? And I go, oh, no, no, I'm sorry. Just I just want to identify what this is. And then I was like, oh, I know it is. It's the moment when they put the transfer on your arm for a tattoo and they peel it back and you've got like a purple outline of it. And you go, do I want that forever? It's permanent. Yeah. It's like the only permanent decision I had ever made in my life. Renable analysis was the tattoo, but it was unmistakable, right? It was just like this very

54:50specific sensorial experience. I've been a chat and an idea until right now in this chair. So I had a period that was, you know, whatever I was on my space at a period and I had a lot of access and I was on TV and I would often have people over to the house that I didn't really know that well. And in general, we would do a tour of the house and breathe in shortly thereafter, there would be some love making, right? Yeah. And my house is not that big at the time, right? Because we're about to pass. Yeah, we're about to pass. It's a good time. It's three thousand square feet. Yeah, nice house. But in general, the tour didn't take much longer than 10 minutes, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I remember I was showing this woman my office and I had this like surge. And it's so embarrassing to admit, but I was like, oh, this tour is so long. And then I had this and it was the same moment with the credit card where I go, oh my god, wait, what is this? I know this feeling so well. I've been in this feeling so well and I go,

55:53oh my god, it was when I used to be at my drug dealer, Tom's house and he'd be measuring out, shit, and he'd be telling me about his whole life. And I wanted to scream, just give me a fucking bump of that. And then I'll sit here all night and listen to this, but the agony of watching him get distracted as he measured shit out and the impatience. And I need to regulate now. That was the last I had that connection. And I was like, oh, it's drugs, man. This is drug. I'm using this like drugs. I can't. I don't want to do this. This is taking too long. Which I'm already in the most insanely spoiled situation. We're like, I didn't have to go into a bar and fucking charm somebody. It couldn't be easier. And even that's not easy enough, because I need the medicine now. I want I'm fucking dis I'm in discomfort. And I know the solution and I can't have it now. And I was like, oh, yeah, I hate this. I don't know what I was

56:57listening to, but this guy who talks to a lot of billionaires and he was asked like, what is what have you learned about them about being in such proximity to these rich people? And he said, I've learned you cannot outspend emotions. Like it doesn't matter how rich you get you. Whatever that kid is that was bullied that is left behind that is like addicted is going to still be right there. It's just it's so funny how everything is transposed on everything else. Yeah. And if you can figure out it's like you keep saying it's like if you can actually get to the root of what that little kid needs, there's 50 other costumes it's wearing in your life. Uh huh. That if you whack them all your way across and you don't deal with that, nothing changes. Nothing changes. Yeah. And the thing I've observed about being around really, really rich people and I also anytime I watch it doc like I watch this doc about the children of who is that famous preacher who became very politically. He's got Jerry Jerry fall. Well, right. And then is is I think is the son of he got not a mix up right here is why he has swing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I watch the university. Yeah.

57:58I watch that documentary. And I kind of had sympathy for them because I know what goes on. Uh and I myself even experience is like you've had this fantasy your entire life that I will get rich and it'll feel this way. And then you get rich and you feel the exact same way. So you go fuck that wasn't it. What more can we throw at this? Yeah. Maybe if we had a more exciting sex life. Maybe that'll give me this feeling I was promised. And I just think it's yeah that he don't like treadmill that is is is you can't get satiated and you you don't get a lation from any of the activities and you were promised a lation. And you just keep adding to well, maybe we should do drugs. Maybe we should be swinging. Yeah. Yeah. And you just you don't get there. There is no there. And it's scary when you get to the top of the top of the top because then the public or the people they don't actually have sympathy for you because they're like if I had your money I wouldn't have that problem. You're incapable of having sympathy for people who are higher status than you basically. That's another thing that like the billionaires don't know is like it's going to be

59:01very lonely as well because no one will ever you could break your foot like honestly if Jeff Bezos falls down and fly his shares. People who give a shite eventually stand up and be a a hundred billionaires. Yeah. He's making money on laying there made 14 million. Yeah, Monica we hashed this out publicly on the fact that which is we go to the Hanson's Christmas party and there's a white elephant right. Yeah. And in the white elephant sometimes there's kind of a high value item that everyone wants. And I can't remember in the situation is maybe a gift card for a few hundred dollars or something and Monica used her last thing and she got it and froze it and people were pissed right and she's like it's not fair like I still want to play the game and play the way it should be played. And I go yes I understand that desire but you have to be realistic about the fact like would you like if Jeff Bezos ended up with the right and as much as you don't think your Jeff Bezos it's the same identical thing you have more than everyone in the room no one's going to enjoy watching you get some more money. It's so true. And you just got to that's part

1:00:02of the game. And it goes with it so you want it or not. Yeah. Yeah. Chad I'm so happy you did this. Oh my god. I love this show. I'm going to give you a compliment. I hope you hear it as such. There are only a few people Angela Duckworth, um Stephen Dubner, I'm forgetting some where I don't have to do any research. It's so liberating. I go like, Angela's coming. I don't need to worry about anything. She's an explosion of thoughts and I'll ride the wave. And I just want to compliment you that you're the only guest in this show. Like I didn't do I didn't find out what you're up to. I don't know what books coming in. I didn't learn any again. I'm like, Oh, Jets here. He'll he'll explode with fun ideas. And you did and I love you. I love you. And I'm glad I got to see you because it's been too long. I know and I'm so happy I got to spend time with you. I know. We are supported by all state checking all state first could save you hundreds on car insurance. Not checking that your phone was backed up before you upgraded. The guy at the store said you're all set and well, you believed him. Only to open your

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