Mayor Mamdani’s threat to arrest Israeli PM was a bust

0:00Welcome to After Dark, the American Outlaw Talk Radio Network. I am your host and my co-host tonight is Heather Robinson, contributor for the New York Coast. We've got a lot to talk about. One of the things we're going to talk about is the General Assembly that's taking place in the closing moments now here in New York City. One of the most controversial things was the arrest or the mayor, Mantane, saying that he was going to arrest or that Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel, should be arrested. Then we know that this conversation from him started earlier this year. Just out of the blue, he said that if he comes here, he should be arrested because he's been known to be a criminal by the ICC, they said that he should be arrested. Of course, we're not governed by the ICC. I don't know why he brought it up, other than the fact that he wanted to stir the

1:02pot up. So fast forward, he will be on September, the General Assembly was taking place at the UN and he made the same threat. And it just begs a question, why is he doing this? And we know why he's doing it. It's to stir the pot up. It's to give meat to his base, his radical base, his uninformed base, by the way, because if you recall, Heather and I spoke about this last week, the whole issue with the Gaza, Israel and what they were promised, what they were going to get would build Clinton. Bill Clinton, as he was speaking about it now. But for some reason, this information isn't permeating in the heads of the folks who know nothing about what's happening in the Middle East. They know nothing about geopolitics. They're only going by hearsay of what someone has told them, or they've been given a flyer and they're saying, oh, this looks good. Let's jump on board from the river to the sea. Just last week, we saw Hassan Piker, the campus of Cornell University, having a discussion

2:07and they started chanting from the river to the sea. Now mind you, many of them don't know what it means. It sounds good. And whenever something sounds good, you always have your usual suspects jumping on board with it and saying, oh, this feels good. Let's say something about it. But Benjamin Netanyahu came and he left without incident and rightfully so. Had there been an incident, it would have been on the hands of the mayor, Mandomin. Now before I let Heather jump in here, I just want to play you because that's what we do here in Afghadar. We always come with recedes. Hassan Piker, the campus of Cornell University, and they started chanting from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. And as Heather and I said last week, who's holding the Palestinians hostage other than Hamas? And themselves.

3:08And themselves. Before then it was a PLO, Arab. So here's a tape. Here's a chant of Hassan Piker sitting there and saying absolutely nothing. Run the tape. Well, that's enough. You get the Jeff. I mean, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. Who's holding them hostage other than themselves and Hamas? Who's funding Hamas Iran? Who's trying to cut up the snake's head in Iran, President Trump? Who's against it? A lot of people that don't understand what's happening here. A lot of folks that don't understand geopolitics, which is exactly what Benjamin Netanyahu said when he took the stage at the UN. And we saw all those little small nations that really insignificant walking out. Now there were people that stayed, which is something that the media did not want to say. They only focused their attention on all people left. They left and to make it seem as though Benjamin Netanyahu is a bad guy.

4:10Regardless as to what you say about Benjamin Netanyahu or what you think about him, Israel has a right to exist. They have the right to defend themselves. They have a right to defend themselves against these radical terrorists, Hamas. Because you got to remember back in October 7th, Israel was doing absolutely nothing. Hamas staged this. Hamas did this. They're the guilty parties. They're trying to commit genocide. But the media has chosen not to spell that out. So when you saw the people leaving the UN, they made it seem as if they're Benjamin Netanyahu is a bad guy. And no one wants to listen to him. No. It's the other way around. Let's not get it twisted. The way the media has gotten it twisted. The same media that was having a conapsure because President Trump said, you know, you guys can cover me. But I don't want you in the people's wide house. I don't want you in the people's house. Oh my God. He's trying to sell us some voices. No, he's not. You guys can do whatever you want to do. You're always out there with misinformation. He just said, I don't want you in the White House.

5:12But that's another story for a different day. Heather, what are your thoughts on Benjamin Netanyahu's presence at the UN and what our mayor had said prior to that? Well, good evening, Rob. I think our listeners know by now that I am very much, you know, Zionist American and I support President and Prime Minister Netanyahu's efforts. I think that Israel is at war. I know that. We saw it on October 7th and unprovoked, hideous, vicious, cruel attack on thousands of people, the perpetrators killed children in front of their parents, raped and dragged decapitated, broken bodies of young women through violent, celebrating crowds of hundreds of Palestinians.

6:13They taped these things, these atrocities. They bragged about them. So nobody can deny them and that this is how this started, this war, which is one of the reasons it's so, so galling and disgusting to land or Israelis as committing a genocide. I mean, and I mean, genocides have happened in this world, the Holocaust. There was a genocide in South Sudan in the one case perpetrated by Nazis and the other by Islamists, extremists. They were vicious, systematic and I want to stress that word to our listeners. Rob, systematic, a genocide is a systematic, conscious, premeditated effort to annihilate and entire people. It's not the same thing as a war.

7:17And I think people with common sense know this. They know that this is a mischaracterization and a gross exaggeration. And the more that these pro-Palestinianists say that, the more I think people who have common sense reject that. And I think President and Prime Minister Netanyahu, he's presiding over the country of war. I'm not a military expert. I cannot necessarily defend every decision he's made, but the truth is the people who sit and pass this judgment and have nothing to say about the viciousness, the deliberate cruelty and mass murder, rape, torture and kidnapped that we saw in October 7th are a bunch of hypocritical fakes.

8:18Because if they were really humanitarian, they'd be condemning the October 7th for starters, even if they were anti-war, whatever. They think Israel should just possibly be a pacifist state and not fight back. And I think that's a lament the loss of Palestinian lives, including the lives of children, which I lament as well. I feel sorry for the children I've said that many times and I do. But I mean a real humanitarian position would be concerned about loss of innocent life on all sides, not just acting like the suffering is only on one side and telling lies about how this all started. So I think that as far as what Netanyahu said, he was defending Israel's and Israeli's right to defend themselves, which is something that is axiomatic really, but it shouldn't require an explanation. I mean the world saw what happened on October 7th.

9:19What would they do? What would the Irish do? What would the British do? What would the Canadians do? What would the Portuguese do? What would any of these people do if an organized militia of sadistic radicals, paraglided and motorcycle into their communities while there was a huge festival going on and just started throwing young girls down and raping them and cutting off people's limbs and murdering children. I mean we're supposed to believe that these countries would just, they would, they're so anti-violence that they would just let their citizens be tortured, murdered, raped and kidnapped and not respond militarily. I mean I think that Netanyahu, from what I saw of his speech, I think he did a pretty good job. He was very, very eloquent. I think the people who walked out are a bunch of lightweights because it takes integrity

10:30and it takes a real first class intellect to listen to the arguments of the other side. It's not easy to do and they clearly didn't have the character to do it. So it shows you that they're weak-minded, a bunch of cowards who think that they are doing something principled. I mean it's just not, I mean it shouldn't be that surprising I guess and it isn't really because most of this world, it tends to sit in judgment of Jews, whether Jews are the victims as we were in the Holocaust or fighting back as we are now. A lot of people just don't like, don't like either option and expect some kind of perfect response to coordinated attacks of terror, rape, murder, kidnapped and brutality.

11:35But I mean you can sit in judgment but the reality is if it were you and your country and your country's young people being treated that way, I think almost anyone would respond with fury and with rage and with an effort to make sure it never happens again. And I think that's what Netanyahu outlined is what Israel is trying to do. So those are my thoughts. But the fact that our mayor Heather seemingly was stirring the pot and putting fuel to this fire that Benjamin Netanyahu would be arrested or should be arrested. Yeah. And he was so adamant about it. It's like mentioned he started this dialogue earlier this year and then as a date progressed of course the media couldn't wait to ask him about it again. I think their agitator is also because they did not have to bring this up.

12:38It wasn't anything newsworthy. It was said that he can't do it. And as a policy saying, are you going to do it? Are you still considering arresting him? Why didn't they say you don't have the authority to do it? So why would you even bring it up Mr. Mayor? What's in your heart? What's behind all of this? But did they? No, they didn't. Now how the table has been turned of course they would have definitely gone down that road with him. But because it's men, dummy, because it was something it seems that they wanted. They didn't phrase the question that way that you don't have the power to do it. Mr. Mayor, you said that you were going to do this but you don't have the power. Think of the times they've set this to Trump even with adding the reporters from the White House. You're doing this but you know you don't have the power because you're infringing on freedom of the press. So why wouldn't they put the same question to the Mayor that you don't have the authority, the power or the with all to do it? And if you were to even try it,

13:40these could get ugly. But see they wouldn't do that. They didn't see it. No, because they're little tyrants and they like their tyrants. They want their side to limit people's freedom. It's just they want to be the the the lords of who gets to have free speech and freedom of movement and assembly. They're not principled liberals. They don't and we know they don't stand up for things like freedom of the press and freedom of assembly and let the truth out and hear different sides of the debate. No, that's why they walked out on Netanyahu I think. He wanted you know to sit there and to listen to an intelligent discussion about why Israel isn't war and be reminded of the atrocities of October 7th would take more character and they don't you know they don't want to be made uncomfortable.

14:47And yeah, they I mean to them it's like if they're in charge of who gets to come here and who gets thrown in jail for no good reason and who gets to speak and who doesn't that's fine. You know they're not liberals they're they're leftists and we know there's a big difference. Well like you said they're and they're not principled. Because I would have definitely taken the question to the mayor to say Mr. Mayor you do realize that what you're saying could possibly incite violence and he even said that there would be protesters there. He wouldn't be part of the protesters but there would be protesters there. And there were Susan Sarandum was arrested. I think there was this other woman, Avala Shawar whatever her name is she's a new representative. That's going to Congress she was arrested. Oh good old Susan Sarandrap. She still has it. These people have no principle. Well she's always stood up for murderers. You know I mean Susan Sarandrap. I mean ever since I remember a dead man walking.

15:51Oh yeah. Kind of a good film just on an entertainment level but it was all about the noble you know none and I mean you know whatever I mean it has even though it's not what I agree it's not I don't agree with the argument I saw it and I was thought provoking but I mean she's always aligned herself with I mean the worst someone behaves the more interested she is in you know championing their story. And so no wonder she's probably pro-Habas. I mean she she views anybody who engages in any atrocity as some kind of noble victim it seems like. Yep good old seruzin as I like this. Seruz Susan Sarandrap. Folks you've been listening to After Dark and the America Outlaw Talk Radio network. My co-host tonight is how the Robbes Center contributor for the New York Post.

16:51We're going to continue the discussion on the other side of the break. I guess I definitely want to you know dissect this a little more with the mayor had said what he had done which could have incited violence. We saw just the other day there was some men from Iran, Iran's who were arrested in the UK there was a possibility they were looking at a terrorist act. And so we will continue this conversation and we hope that you'll stick around. You'll listen to After Dark and the America Outlaw Talk Radio Network will be back after this break. Are you looking for healthy snacks but you've had enough of all this sweet sugary energy bars? Good news there's a new bar to try that's savoury, crunchy and packed with goodness. Beer bars are based on just six simple natural ingredients. A certified organic veggie nut and seed bar that's low temp dried never baked or fried. Beer bars are plant based, gluten free and loaded with nutrients and protein. Head over to beerbore.com forward slash out loud and get the exclusive discount just for America Outlawed listeners. That's B-E-A-R B-A-R.com forward slash out loud. One in three people will face cancer and most never see it coming.

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18:54America out loud.News is that place to awaken your heart, soul and mind to the outlaw truth. After about a second half of the show, we continue with the conversation as we said, when we went to break Susan Serran rap as Heather has named her, was in on this protest that took place at the UN. She was arrested, along with some other protesters. But my concern was that the mayor who came out and he said that yes, there would be protesters there. He wouldn't be a part of it. But this is after he had fueled the fire, flames of the fire, saying as if he was going to arrest Benjamin Netanyahu, that he should be and that because he couldn't, people can go out and protest. One of some knucklehead had gone out and tried to assassinate the Prime Minister. This did not happen. We know that there was heightened security.

19:56But look at what happened to Trump. The left villainized him, said he was a threat to democracy, he was a dictator, he's a racist. Three times this man's life. And we've never had anything like this in our history, a president, an assassination attempt. Not once, not twice, but three times, think I even for. And we've heard that people have like said or done things, but actual attempts on his life. And the media has downplayed it. And I say shame on the media and shame on our justice system also. But making it so, seemingly so cavalier about it. When we see that, if democracy is at risk, if our republic, if there's a threat against our republic, it is coming from the left. We cannot pretend as if though it isn't even Bill Maher said the exact same thing. And he's no ban of Trump. He's an ultra liberal. He claims to be an independent. He said on one of his shows,

21:00he said, let's just be honest about this. All of these threats have come from the left. Did he the threat to freedom and free speech specifically, Rob? The threat, the assassination attempts on Trump's life. Oh, sorry, sorry. Okay. And he's been truthful. And then when you have a mayor, he always is, by the way, what he got expropriated for all those years ago, which was a harsh and offensive sounding thing he said after 9-11, I defended him at the time for saying that too, even though it hurt, that these people aren't cowards. It's not exactly the right word for what they are. I mean, they're evil, follower, mindless, fanatics. But I knew what he was, I felt I understood what he was trying to say. But I mean, it's kind of a semantics. I mean, they're disgusting, vile, evil people, but I don't know that coward is exactly, I mean, maybe they are cowards in a sense.

22:06Well, I understand what he was saying, I mean, I understood it all. They're not physical cowards. And that they're not afraid. Right. That they're not afraid to die and get violent. And that way, that's my concern when the mayor made his comments because these individuals, they're not afraid to die. They're not afraid to push back. Cowards isn't exactly accurate. I mean, yes, they don't have true moral courage because for one thing, they act like a bunch of brainwashed losers, which is what they are completely 100%. I mean, they're not truly courageous the way an individual who wants deeply to live, but puts himself in harm's way or lays down his life to save another. I mean, that's a completely different kind and level of courage. They don't have that kind of courage because they don't care about their lives anyway, because they're not so all the more reason they know it and they don't

23:07even care about their own children's lives. That's part of what makes them very, very tough enemy to beat because they don't value their lives or the lives of others in the same way. And, you know, but anyway, I mean, that just isn't a side. I think Bill Marr always has been a true seller. And, you know, he was then and he is now. He calls him like he sees him. And he's a very smart man. But just going back to what you're saying is, where's the coward and in his statement, that's all the more reason that our mayor should have chosen his words carefully, but he knew exactly what he was saying. He knew exactly what he was doing. He knew the base that he was targeting those words too. You know, where's matter? And when the press is always coming out saying that President Trump set this and President Trump did that, and then they don't hold the mayor accountable for the things that he's saying. They're just imagined. When Najin Yahu spoke, that could have been a complete. And I want to say this,

24:13and some people might not like it. It could have been a bloodbath. You could have had some radicals coming up. They were saying, we don't care. We're going to stop this once and for all. What would the mayor have done then? What would he have said with the media held him accountable? What they should have done is say, Mr. Mayor, the things that you're saying because of the heightened atmosphere of our political, in the political environment, don't you think that your words you should kind of like take or be careful with the words that you're saying, temper your words, but no one said that. They were okay with it. Was it though they were saying, oh no, he can say that and then some. Very dangerous, very dangerous situation to have a world leader to come here. And for them to act them being the media, the way they did it not to hold the mayor accountable. And as I said, we're going to break. Look at what happened just Sunday night in the UK. They arrested

25:18some Iranian men allegedly plotting a terrorist attack near a base that the US has used in the past. Now we don't see a lot of coverage and it's just been day two on this. And of course, it's the media we're relying on the media to bring us a story. But this is not good. And I posted a post on Twitter about this and other social media platforms. This is not good. When you have one of the largest cities in the world, the mayor coming out making a statement. Planning the seed of discourse, planning the seed to me in my opinion of violence, causing doubt.

26:20Knowing that there are a lot of individuals who aren't seeing this through clearly. We saw what happened two years ago on our college universities. What was happening to Jewish students. Making to those of them, they weren't they're not wanted. They shouldn't be there. Unsafe. And then when there were arrest, these individuals will let go. They told the New York Police Department that they couldn't come on the college campuses to protect these students. Is it though to say, they're on their own vices. Let them fit for themselves. And then you have a mayor who seems to be disengaged. His wife making incinerary comments on social media. And where is she? Why is she never by his side? Again, the media gives him a pass. You can say whatever he wants to say, but they'll give him a pass.

27:24Why is that? Why is he given a pass and others aren't given a pass? He should be held accountable for the comments that he's making. He should be held accountable. You're responsible. I agree. You know why Rob? It's because a lot of the media maybe agrees with him or just, you know, when you say agree with him, agree with him on what? And I know what you're saying, but I want to listen to this. I hate to say, I mean, I don't think most people, even media people actually believe Israel's committing a genocide. I mean, I think even most liberals know that's a distortion and, you know, a gross, I don't even want to use the word exaggeration because that implies there's a grain of truth to it. And there isn't. It's a, but I mean, I think they know anybody who's throwing that word around doesn't either doesn't understand the meaning of the word or is just an unscooled bigot

28:26or a brainless member of the mob, but I think they don't like Israel or Netanyahu or Jews who are not going to be apologists about the fact that this is a war and it's ugly and it was started and is driven by the other side, but we're going to fight back. And Palestinians bear some responsibility here, even though nobody, nobody in their right mind is happy about civilians anywhere being killed, especially little ones and it's, it breaks our heart too, but the truth is, I mean, anyway, the point is I think that most people in the media do know, they do know that that's a distortion to call it a genocide, you know, but I think they don't care enough about Israelis and their rights and the safety and security of American Jews to make an issue of it. If Netanyahu, you know,

29:31Mandani, Mandani, whatever his name is, you know, if he's calling for, you know, the arrest of a foreign leader, oh, it's Israel, you know, it's, they just, yeah, you're right, it's completely irresponsible. It certainly is, it's certainly, I think if I think if he were calling for the arrest of any other, I don't know about that. If he were calling for Putin's arrest or something like that, would the media say that's irresponsible toward Russians, probably not, because, you know, that's another group that's not the favorite of the political correct mob and the, you know, the, the shibbolits of our time, you know, or about you, there are certain groups that are protected and not others and so I don't know exactly, but, you know, we think, I think, the basic answer is, you know, that the leftist is, you know, the media tends to view leftist

30:36violence, leftist threats, leftist bullying as less concerning than, you know, any similar behavior from the right. It's a huge, glaring double standard, which is what I think Donald Trump meant to call out when he talked about what happened in Charlottesville, for instance, which is something that got completely glossed over, you know, that you had a lot of leftists showing up in that town with baseball bats from all over the country to didn't live there, who came spoiling for a fight and then you had some people on the right who were also bad news, but I mean, the point is, you know, I think Trump was being even handed in calling out the destructive belligerent elements on both sides and they couldn't even handle that amount of truth. They cannot stand to see, I mean, they, we know they're full of unending, not just criticism,

31:40but name calling and whipping up of, you know, fear and all kinds of casting of aspersions on those of us who supported President Trump, who supported anybody who's a conservative blah blah blah, but their side, you know, their, you know, what don't sink, you know, is how they act, you know, that they can, they can incite and torment and gang up and threaten, but that's all in the cause of justice, you see, because they're, you know, on the left. So I mean, that's how the media sees it, even if they don't particularly like them, they don't see them as a threat, they just refuse. And yes, it's at this point, not only is it unfair, it's idiotic, because we've seen time and again that if anything, most of the violence is, you know, in this country that's political violence

32:41is coming from the left. Most of all, the kind of violence kicked, frankly. I mean, I'm not saying there aren't conservatives out there committing crimes, there are some, but not many. I mean, conservatives were a lot of order people for the most part. So I mean, this whole idea that, you know, everybody needs to be scared of the conservative, scared of the Trump supporters, scary, scary Israelis and the Israel supporters. It's a big joke. I mean, you know, it's, it's a, it's basically the big lie. You know, I mean, I'm not saying everybody on our side is perfect or that there aren't individuals who are sickos, you know, coming from anywhere, but by and large, we are not, I mean, these groups are not like you said at once last time, I mean, once last time Jewish Americans threatened anybody. Or last time,

33:42blew up something. True. I mean, I'm not saying it's never happened. I, you know, but when was the last time like you said, when was not too common, it's not too common, and that's the irony of all there, they're, excuse me, they're bullshit. And they make it seem as though that they are the innocents, that they're innocent and that everyone else is a bad guy, which is the reason why I'm saying the mayor, the media should have called him out and they still have time to call him out. I mean, the rhetoric that's coming from the mural house at that level, it's unfortunate. I mean, the first terrorist attack we had here, or attempted terrorist attack, and he played it down and said, well, no, that wasn't it. And then only to come back and say, well, yeah, that wasn't. I mean, how could you? And I, I've always said that the moment he gets into office is just going to be a cascade with others thinking they could do the same thing and look at what's happening. And Michigan, with Abdul Saeed, with this other woman here in New York City, Arvela, whatever her last day is. I mean,

34:45it's some of the remarks that she's made, some of the things that she said about Jews and Blacks. I know she's going to the hill. Oh, yeah, she's, she's an Arvela, can't be pronounced her name, Rosarilla, Arvela. I mean, very nasty person, completely nasty, but they give them a pass because it seems as though they're saying, oh, these are the social warrior, social justice warriors, and we're okay with the things that they're saying and doing. And half of these individuals know nothing about socialism or communism. They don't understand the basics of it. They don't understand that what you want to do is just completely tear down society, but the message seems nice. It seems fun. It seems is catchy. And that's the reason why you have so many young people that are falling prey and victim. And we can point to Venezuela. We can point to Cuba and communist China. The exact same thing happened. It happens with the young people because they're gullible, they're unlearned, and it started in schools with them not teaching them the basics. I think that every school should teach kids civics. They just have someone who's teaching civics

35:50who isn't coming in with their political opinion. We need someone who's just going to say, here it is. I'm teaching my son. I'm telling him about the three branches of the government. He is cousin. And I quiz him about it. I said, who has a power? He's equal power. Who's at the top? Because they're not getting this in schools anymore. And that is the reason why we have people like Mendami out saying some of the most incinerary remarks and making comments that he's saying because he's not being held accountable. And we have a dishonest media that wants to show up and be seen by everyone, but they will not report the truth. You'll listen to after dark. The America outlaw took video network will be back for the last half of the show after this brief commercial.

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37:56author of the National Best Seller, The Sprout Book. Sprouts grow in three to five days without soil, sunshine or fertilizer on your kitchen countertop for under a dollar serving. Take control of your food and your future. Visit thesproutingcompany.com slash out loud and use the code out loud for an exclusive offer. Grow food, not fear. I worked back with the last half the show. And I want to ask you something Heather, before we come on, Heather and I, we're usually trading articles and you sharing different articles to say, hey, did you see this? We talk about this tonight. But there is a piece that I saw on social media, Heather that I sent you. I think it was of a Jewish couple. And they were calling out American Jews. Yeah. I saw. Yeah. What are you? What are you? What are you? Let me see if I have it because I want. I'm going to see if I can play some of it for listeners. And then I want to get your your thoughts on it. Uh, yeah. Here it is here. So I want to try to play half of this for listeners to hear and we'll take it from there.

39:04Okay. Rotate. I'm sorry. I put it this way. Have a lot of go. A lot of go. Because we have been the most fortunate people, the Jewish people in America whose family came over before the Holocaust like my family. And my I we have been so blessed. We would not be here. And this is the case for many American Jews. Now those who got to Israel were fortunate too. And that could have been us. Easily could have been us. However, is really Jews had to build a country out of the desert when simultaneously sending off attack after attack after attack to the point of today going to bomb shelters. And we American Jews sit there and sit here at our branches, judging them

40:11and have what they should do. Well, we had to haven't had to do anything that they have had to do and have not walked in their sandals. No. And so what is this to American Jews? Especially liberal American Jews because they're the most guilty of this shit. Check your privilege. Let me use the most progressive, the most progressive phrase in here. Romoman, check your fucking privilege. Talk, Schumer. Oops. Sorry about that, folks. I have a few thoughts about it wrong. Heather, what do you know what I saw that I played and I'm like, wow. I'm like, I'm innocent of Heather. Let me get her thoughts on it. What are your thoughts Heather? I have some I have mixed feelings about it and thoughts. I mean, I want to say for starters, I do think most American Jews, whether they're conservative or liberal. And you know, most American Jews are liberal, but actually the conservatives are numbers are growing according to the Republican Jewish coalition, fully 25% of American Jews voted

41:16for President Trump, vote conservative these days. So I mean, it's true that Jews lean very liberal in terms of our voting patterns, but there's been a big shift, I'd say. It's still, you know, the strong majority are still liberals, but it's not a tiny minority anymore of American Jews who are conservatives, not tiny anymore. I mean, it's shifted strongly in the past 10 or 15 years. But I'd say, you know, whether we're liberal or conservative, most Jewish Americans love this country, America very much. Number one, and most American Jews are Zionists. I mean, this idea that most do not support Israel is a lie. I mean, it's I think that there, those who don't are a very vocal minority within our ranks. I mean, there are some, I would consider them crazy, the American Jews,

42:18but I don't know what percentage you're talking about, but I would bet you it's less than 15%. You know, most Jews, I mean, I remember once I'll quote some, but guy I knew he was kind of a simple guy, and you know, maybe simple only in the sense of he didn't overthink things. I mean, sometimes you have to be like intellectually smart to talk yourself out of the obvious, got level common sense truth. And anyway, this was a Jewish guy I knew who counted at the stereotype. He wasn't like a very intellectually smart guy, but I remember him saying to me a few times, how can a Jew not support Israel? How can a Jew not support Israel? And I was like, well, you're right. It's stupid. He's like, but how, how, you know, because it's not only is it a country that was born, you know, the modern inception was born out of the ashes of the Holocaust. Of course, the reality is Israel existed

43:19in ancient times. It has been a Jewish homeland thousands of years ago and remained a dream and the centerpiece of Jewish religion for five over five thousand years. I mean, look, you do know, and our listeners who are Christians know what we call the Hebrew Bible is what you call the old testament. Anybody with, you know, familiar with the Bible knows that Israel and Jerusalem is all through the Old Testament. It's not just the result of, so one, you know, the Holocaust, I mean, that was the latest chapter. One thing I would take a little polite issue with with these folks, I, the woman said they built a country. That's true. That Jews and, you know, had to resurrect a country is the word I would use. They didn't originate the country. There were always Jews there, sometimes more, sometimes less, because Jews were driven out again and again by the Babylonians, the Persians, the Greeks, the Romans, the Crusaders, the Ottomans, you know, again and again, the

44:22the story of Israel is the story of Western history, I like to say. So if you know Western history you understand that, you know, ancient Israel existed in ancient times and Roman times and medieval times, there were always Jews in towns like Tiberius and Safed, which are called Tiberia and Sfat in Hebrew. I mean, there were always Jews in Jerusalem. You know, if you, whatever, however, many thousands of them hung on and stayed despite the massacres, despite the expulsions, despite being burned and crucified, you know, by the Romans, the Second Temple destroyed. That was a huge dispersion. There has always been a Jewish presence. So I, one thing I would, I would take a little issue with is the way they say, built a country. I would say rebuilt a country or resurrected a country. It's true that what the pioneers did who returned to the Jewish homeland and joined

45:22the Jews who had remained there and worked the land and built the, you know, rebuilt and added on to the cities was nothing short of heroic. And if you know anything about that history, I mean, they had to go many died. There was disease. There was all kinds of struggle. But, you know, it isn't exactly like the pioneer stories of America because let's face it. I mean, white settlers in America really were. How can I put it? I mean, they, they really were foreign to the land. That wasn't true of the Jews returning to, to Israel. I mean, they were meeting, reconnecting with Jews who would remain there and they were returning to a place we are. Jewish people have, have, there's tons of DNA evidence of this archaeological evidence of this historical record of our, you know, ancestors ties there. So they were returning. The other thing I would say about what they,

46:26what these folks are saying is that I mean, it's not that I disagree, but I like I said, I think that they're, I think that they're responding to, they're kind of reacting to what I would say as a vocal minority in the Jewish community who, yes, I understand what they're saying that how can these people sit here and, you know, be in the greatest country in the world, America? And I, you know, I ran, Israel, it's closed second, but, you know, how, you know, here we are in these great free countries that, you know, we are so blessed as, as are all Americans. And, you know, I don't, I don't think that, I guess I just, I think that the people they're preaching to, I would stress to our listeners, it really is a minority within the Jewish community. I don't think most Jewish Americans need to hear that because I think most Jewish Americans, you know, whether they're liberal or conservative, they're not left-wing fanatics and they're generally hardworking good people

47:28who love America. So, but I mean, I think that, yes, what she's talking about could be said to, to the leftist element among Jewish people. And the last thing I'll say is that guys are good Jewish husband because she's the one, kind of putting on the main, you know, she's the one driving the, the, the show there. So, I'm doing, I'm engaging in a little stereotype, you know, just being funny, but you can see she's a very opinionated Jewish woman. And let's just say we have that reputation. Perhaps for good reason in some places. Well, I think that I think that he's basically saying, yes, dear. Well, I think you see that with, with, in most relationships, but just going back to what she was saying, when you look at the Jews here in New York City who voted for Mandami, and I do think that she has a point that their Mondamis, Mandami, that you do have a, and just from

48:30reading and looking at numbers, that there are secular Jews who aren't aware or don't know their, their history. So, they are subcumbing to this craziness from the left. Look at, I see you one article of this one woman who's Jewish. She was pertinent to be Palestinian. Mm-hmm. We'll talk about you too. You know, I guess they're not to excuse them, but there may be an element. I mean, I think with most of these, these real, really, kind of foolish ones are young. And there may be an element of super childish rebellion, you know, against their parents and grandparents. I mean, some of it could have sort of a developmental component to it, but I mean, no, but I mean, it's more serious than that. I agree. It's, I'm not going to deny that it's for, any sort of sizable number of Jews to be siding against their, you know, their own people.

49:36I mean, it's, it's a problem. It's, it's pretty sick. I mean, I'm not going to disagree with her. But I, again, I would stress that it really, I mean, there's room for disagreement among Jewish Americans just as there is among all Americans, you know, before you get to people who are actually anti-Israel or anti-America. I mean, I would compare it to, you're just the way you have a range of people here in America. Some of them are, you know, we got half this country, doesn't like President Trump, but not all of them are totally, you know, raving anti-American lunatics, you know, I mean, it's the same in the Jewish community. I mean, I think there are. You see across the board, you see, you see this with every group. I mean, I see it with blacks who to me sometimes I'm like, oh my gosh,

50:39you're going to fall for this again. We saw with Rachel Donzel who thought that, I guess, being black was better than being white. There she was called. There aren't more people doing that. I really haven't heard of it. The media, the media has, as you we talked about, has given a past. Well, look at the guy Sean King. Leftists and at one point, these organizations defending and raising money for people to have illegal defense if they obstruct the cops and they, you know, get in the way of police and they fight with the police or they try to protect people who are criminally illegal aliens. There's all kinds of money being raised. I mean, you think about it. Somebody who's a manipulator and a charlatan type person, a con artist, basically, it would be a, I mean, a kind of attempting sort of racket, I guess, to engage in this. So in a way, I mean, it's like the, you know, the, the sort of bending over backwards to just embrace one narrative and you, you know, tons of media

51:45support and the end praise and money could be flowing your way, you know, to embrace these, these leftist causes. I'm surprised we don't see even more of these, these, and who knows, you know, these, these people taking on a fake identity and who knows how many people doing this are kind of are doing it for profit. And I'm sure there are more of them. Right. And, but it's just, you know, you still have these people that are on the fringe that choose to, I don't know, identify, I guess they think they change their whole. I mean, they're, they're, they're going to step further than just screaming at a protest and ring, you know, raising money for their organization and how, you know, how much winds up in their pocket. And, you know, they're actually pretending to be of another race or, you know, ethnic background. And this woman is a Jewish woman and she's pretending to be a pal. I mean, yeah, I mean, she just

52:48sounds crazy, of course, but she, you know, maybe crazy like a fox. I mean, I guess she kind of, you know, and apparently Rachel Dolazal is now a sex madam or something. And I mean, clearly, these personalities are people who are just without any principle. I mean, they are using this, they're creating a fake identity. They're just really, um, scammers. And I mean, yeah, I mean, they're, they're kind of, I guess, in their own category. But I think that a lot of people, we've talked about this Rob, who aren't that extreme in like lying about their identity, but they, they profit from Trump hate, from Israel hate. I mean, these things are businesses. They're how many so-called journalists have built careers. I mean, I'm thinking of one in particular, one out of thousands. I mean, I don't want to pick on this one person. I'm not even in a name, or she's the daughter of a prominent, truly brilliant fiction writer. And her daughter is not as

53:55talented. And she, this young woman, who I met when I was younger, um, yeah, and I mean, I, I knew her a little bit. I have nothing against her as an individual generally except that I, I've observed that her career has taken off. And really, she is obsessed, obsessed with bashing Donald Trump. I would say like 85% of everything she writes is Trump bashing. For vanity fair, for this one, for that one, she's built herself a career. You know, she's the less talented daughter of a very gifted writer. And she recently wrote a memoir all about her mother's dementia. So, I mean, she's, I would say she's riding a wave of opportunism. I see the pattern of opportunism in the, in the projects she's chosen. And she's a huge leftist and a huge Trump basher. And, you know, and I see that this is the same personality is thought, you know, it's consistently with the personality of someone who would, you know, write something critical of a parent with

54:59dementia and profit from that. You know, it's a very self-serving opportunistic mindset, in my opinion. And look, it's slippery slope. All of we writers, all of us, I should say writers, you know, you can accuse anybody who uses their life at all as material can be accused of, you know, being a little bit of a user. I mean, a lot of us writers have been accused of something like that at one time or another. But I think there are degrees of these, you know, these things. I think if you're a person of principle, you write with truth and you tell your truth, you know, you may be market things to hopefully sell, but you don't write things you believe to be untrue, you don't distort things. You don't, you know, you have your lines, you won't cross in terms of, you know, respecting other people's privacy and feelings about things. But I guess my point is I think that in writing just journalism, just like any other profession, you know, there's a continuum

56:05in terms of ethics. And I think a lot of people who have profited from this Trump hate are writers, journalists who I would say are unethical, you know, they're opportunistic, they're drumming it up because it sells. And maybe they really believe it, but it's also, you know, some of them, I, you know, they don't have any sense of responsibility toward the country. In my eyes, they're not considering of course, then again, I guess this is what they believe. Maybe they themselves say this. Yeah, we won't be able to resolve that tonight because we're all out of time. I want to think all of our listeners for tuning in tonight. We will be back again, continuing the conversation. We will never let it go. And we thank you for tuning in. You've been listening to After Dark of the America out loud talk video network. My coach tonight is for the Robeson and Contributor for the New York Post. We're glad you could join us. As we always end the show saying God bless America, God bless Israel. Good night. Be safe and be blessed. Thank you.