"Loopholes like that need to be closed" - QWN (15.09.26)

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1:03No matter your team, no matter where you shop, Apple Card is here to help you tackle game day. Apply in the wallet app on your iPhone today. Subject to credit approval. Apple Card is issued by Goldman Sachs Bank USA Salt Lake City Branch. Terms and more at AppleCard.com. Breakfast with Gary and Tim. The IMA trade-off. Questions without notice. For IMA. Protecting tradis and builders for over 35 years. Call 13 IMA to get covered today. Well, given we are talking about trades, you've traded the Kubota for a Kubota. What is it that you're actually getting for your big tractor? Actually, their partner is Kubota Orange. You're going to love Kubota's Orange October Sales event. Great offers available until October 31st. Kubota loves tough. I've taken advantage of that. What do you got? I've traded the big tractor for a smaller one. What are you getting? Nice mulcher on the back. What are you getting though? An L-3800 HD-38 horsepower tractor. That sounds impressive. Is it a 4-1 buck?

2:05The actual tyres fitted with the loader, third function and a 4-1 buck. You got a 4-1? Yep. And a Cosmo bully mulcher. Good boy. Have you got a trailer with that? Because I wouldn't mind you dropping it off at night for a couple of weeks out of the summer. You're going to end it. You've got to come and get it though. Fueled he asked about the Adelaide Crosse. How are they going to get better? Before I let you guys loose on this, Tim Silver's in a letter to member said, we believe in Matthew and Nick's. We trust the program he leads. We remain aligned on our vision for the future. He will be our coach in 2027. So this stage is going into 2027 without an extension. So he will be coaching for his future next year. So talent, development or system. And I went back through. So the misses. Now that a few hits last year, but the misses in a particular part of the ground that they've long prioritised. Mist on Zach Bailey. Mist on Tom Sparrow. Mist on Nazaire. Mist on Riley Sanders. Mist on Christian Petraca. And that's just off the top on my head. So they do they need an A-grade midfielder in the middle of the ground to take that next step.

3:07There's a reliance on IZOT rank and it would appear from an X-8. Just to balance it out. Hit on Dawson. Hit on Rankin. Yeah, we're going back away for Dawson. But yeah, hit on Rankin. Hit on other players coming. Alex Nealball. And I get all that. But thereafter, a game breaker in the middle of the ground. Clearly as Bailey, Nazaire and Petraca suggested. Do they come back for Nazaire next year? And is that the only way they take the next step? Is the system needing development and refinement? Is it development in their youth? How do they get? It's all those things. How do they get that next? No, it's all those things. And Gary can speak to this because he sort of spends a lot more time breaking down the way teams play than I do. But they were number 18 for Ford Hambles in the competition. So they clearly went down a different path to the way that a lot of other teams were playing in the competition. Gary. Yeah, that'll do. Have to examine the way they go. Whether they think it's modern foodie. Whether it's standing up in from a modern point of view. It protects playing the way they did. It protects their backup.

4:10It protects them defensively. They're vulnerable to full pressure. Correct. Press. And then, anyway, they've got a, I think they've got an overaliance clearly on Rankin and Dawson. And when they don't click, then they're in trouble. So Phil thought didn't have the year that you would hope he would have had. He had some back injury, back issues, which thought he was going to be a dominant Ford. I think Paul Lays can be their key back. I think they're going to commit to Murray. Well, I think they're back out defensively there as good as any team in the competition. But it might be the dogs. Yeah, it might be the way they play. But they don't give up scores too often. But then you go and play against Brisbane. The last two times I've played against Brisbane, I've been absolutely split open. Smashed out of the center of bounce, though, too, as much as anywhere. Yeah. Yeah. So that's always been the issue that they, and Rankin going in and developing into the midfielder that he has, helps, but they go, yeah, I like all the great teams. You've got to have more than two. Yeah. Well, they can't. They can't get in as for next year.

5:11Do they, you mentioned Zach Merritt, who still wants out of Essendon, we believe. Yeah, he helped for sure. Would you ask the question again if you're the Adelaide Christ? Yeah, 100%. Of course, Zach Merritt is, he's as close to a failsafe in the market. Nice right now as any midfielder. I agree. So you might, yeah, four or five years of Zach Merritt is going to be four or five years well spent. I still think it's one destination only for Zach, but we'll... Probably, and I'm sure it is. I'm just spit all in here about what they need. Yeah, what they need. It might be open to having a look at him. I just threw the cats up. Yeah. If I'm missing, I'm saying to Zach, okay, we will help facilitate where you want to go. But don't give us one option. No. We don't want one option. Yeah. Because that's going to be too hard. You saw what happened last year. We couldn't get the deal done. Give us at least two options as to where you would be prepared to go. Yeah. I mean, the counterpoint to that is that I've had a four year to work it out, haven't I? I think we'd be naive to think that I've made discussions with Hawthorne throughout the year,

6:11Essnen, as well. I'm sure that if it is only going to be Hawthorne Tim, I'm sure that we'll get a deal done this time around. But we'll see what happens. Well, I'm not sure so sure this time around. I'll just time. Order under the bridge. Now, I just think it happens. The history says most of the time it happens at the second time of asking with time to work it out. If it was all rushed in last minute, this time last year, it certainly won't be that this year. Toby Green, like this decision coming to a head really soon, I think, GWS resetting to a degree with Hogan and stringer out. Toby's been weighing up. What other players do too in his decision? We've heard that. But it's not going to gelong now and the effect that has on his decision is going to be interesting to hear in the fullness of time. English being targeted by GWS. Toby's discussed that as well as a factor in his decision. We just put that to bed. Yep. So if English stays, but as is at the dogs, then what does he do? Toby Green. It's going to be, I think maybe the decision coming really soon on that front. What do you reckon? I can't call it. I'm not going to pretend to know what his answer is. I think he's been agonizing over it for so far, be it for me to predict what's going to happen here. Just on Toby Green's numbers over the last four years too.

7:15So he has a general forward in 23. He was ranked the number one in 24, number 10 in 25, number six. And this season he's been ranked as a general forward number eight in the competition. That's a champion data ranking. So it's holding up like at some stage, he'll like everybody. He'll go into decline because that's what happens to everybody as they go deeper into their 30s. But right now he's actually as he's in the top 10 of general forwards in the competition. What do you think he's holding up his end of the bargain? What do you think he's got in him, Wes, for another two solider? I reckon another two, I reckon three. And a fresh start would revile. Yeah, I think three, probably three, probably three. And would the AFL give Gary's Kubota trade deal a tick? Would he get too many picks and shovels? No, Terry. Sort of salary, don't. It was a full on trade, good for both parties.

8:16All right, I touched on this yesterday. Did you go the NFL, Wes, we did in the end, didn't you? I did. I just think of the ring as still. I thought it was magnificent. I thought it was absolutely magnificent, the way that that was orchestrated the weekend. And it's something that the AFL should look very closely. He slipped in at number 20 in the AFLs. Look at me, look at me. What's that? Yeah, the AFL identities that went to the NFL. All right. Yeah, here I am, here I am. No, I wasn't looking, I'm just happy to be looking at them. It was an amazing event. It was incredible the way they laid it on. But the reason I mentioned the ring as still is the AFL I've got no plans actually, we're supposed to replicate that, that campus style perimeter fencing for these years, why in final? Too hard to implement now. The whole mantra is accessibility affordability. It's free, Yarra Park, the parade ends there. They want families to get along. They don't want that whole precinct to just be confined to those who have a ticket to the game. They want 100,000 to go to the game, but they want another 50,000 to get around game day, the week in the lead up from Wednesday when it becomes a lost hour.

9:17Surely in this day and age with technology, whatever you can make it available to people in the lead up to the grand final. And then the added complexity is the MCC gates, the AFL members gates. Oh, you're just shepherds. A little wall around there. Another wall around the wall. Why are you trying to put impediments in front of all this? Why are you so combative? I'm just telling you what the AFL have got to you too. I've got the Gary during the call. That's his tractor, isn't it? Did he stop saying that? That's his car. That's all that's all that fans out there. This has got nothing to do with whether or not Zach goes to Hawthorne. I don't think they said just very salty. No, they say I am very salty. No, I'm not. I'm just looking at this from essence perspective and trying to get the best possible deal they can. That's all. He ends up there and it's the best deal. Good luck to you. Good luck to you. You're repeated snored comments towards July outwashing. No, that's not washing your eye. Well, apparently that's the case too. I think he news headlines stay there for a couple of questions without notice coming up. We've got half our free. So you can join in if you'd like. 4-390-1116 is the text number.

10:18A little round of questions without notice before Fieldy leaves us. The Wisp is getting a lot of questions off the text here. Ask the Wisp if Port offers Esther and Pick 4 and 5 for Pick's 1 and 19. What do you do it? Yes, I do that. You take 4 and 5 and give up 1 and 19. Yep, I do that. Right. Because all, I don't know who you talk to Sammy, but all the people I talk to about the top rated, you know, 5 to 10, or top 10 players, they all have a different order. Like there's no clear cut. Number one first pick for a team out there. There's no highly read out there in this draft. I think I say Dougie Cochran's the clearest man. Well, he might go to put his card in his tie, but Cody Walker might be too, but he's tied. Is a cut little zinger ones off the text for you off the temper? Carlton and Marty, where's that at? Pursuit ongoing. They offer a million dollars more over the life of the 5-year contract in Sydney. So that's why Joel and Marty can't come to a decision yet.

11:19He's not going to get a game for him this week, yeah? And what effect does that have? If he can't get his way back into this Sydney side, does that help Carlton say at the moment there's a gap? And their decision that he's sitting on. Calciteer bit the same by the way too. The clubs that are at the table for him, Melbourne, Colin Wooden, Jolong, don't expect an answer for what it's worth while Melbourne up while Hawthorne or Lincoln. I know everyone on the same place, which is fair enough. I'll make it a bit of where that. You wouldn't go to Colin Wooden head of Melbourne. What? Well, memory, mixed stay, Hogan and Charlie West are already there. Well, I'm talking about opportunity. He plays, I would think he plays every week at Melbourne. Van Royen, Jefferson, and Mike. And I don't know whether Mike check. He's going to come back and play. No, I tend to. You're great, do you? Yeah, I agree. But we're not proving to what the playoff is. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know any about the money or anything. Or the sell or the, yeah, B.L. Yeah, broadly, I agree with that. Hey, is it really necessary for the AFL to crack down on the quite unquote loophole that Patrick Voss exploited at the weekend

12:24with the waiting his 30 seconds to take his start is run up. Oh, and then the Michael holding style slow motion approach to take another. I'm glad you brought this up. I don't know how long I've been banging on about this, but I will bring it up again. Loophole's like that need to be closed because in on a grand final day, he will do that. Stop, turn around and kick at 15 meters backwards. And that loophole remains there. And you're able to do that for the last three minutes of a grand final. How would you close this loophole? If you were to take the 30 seconds, you must have a legitimate shot at the end. He did. No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about the other opposite. Okay, but what about what he did? Yeah, I don't think there's too many issues with that. Right. Like in the end, though, stopping him from taking the last eight points. Yeah, well, that's a good point. No, they do need to clarify because he can go back to the brown in slow motion. You go back to the wing and just wait till the 29 second mark and then start walking in for another 30. What would you call it? The Cliffy Youngshuffle?

13:24Yeah, you do have to close it. Cliffy. The Cliffy. It's a good point. That's a, what do you say? What do you introduce then? What's that? What is it that you introduce? What have to be closed that? Play on. The umpile would have to be prepared to call. Yeah. Play on. So he goes back with an extra, exaggerated run up or, yeah. Or instead of it being 30 seconds before you start your approach, which is what they're learning now. Maybe it's just 35 seconds until you've got to kick the thing. No matter how long you're going to kick it. You actually have to kick it. And you have to kick a legitimate shot. Like a shot clock in the end in the end. It has to be a kick. Why do we give everybody 30 seconds anywhere, though? Why did we settle on 30 seconds? Because otherwise they're taking five minutes to have a breather. Yeah, but at some point, the umpire, at every other part of the ground, except when they're having a shot of gold, the umpire says move on. Okay, time's up. Why can't we have the same thing with kicking for golds arbitrary? Some people will need the 30 seconds. No, no. Everyone gets a, like the umpire just decides what's enough time for you to gather yourself.

14:25What if you've been knocked over? It's a hard game with the clock one in the now. No, you take that into consideration. But every, like, a new arbitrary, 95% of guys lining up, take their time. They look up at the clock and then they, then they, then they decide how long they're going to take to, so if you're in the gold square, I think you should get 30 seconds if you're in the gold square. No, of course you shouldn't. Well, why not? That's what the rules is. No, but this is my point. It should, it shouldn't though. Oh, that's fairly your set us off. Nicely done, boy. I'll figure. Take the rest of this. Damn pop coming in. Just be dated. We'll be back after this.