Inside The OIG Interview: MCC Captain's Statement Detailing The Death Of Jeffrey Epstein (Part 6) (3/28/26)

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1:06Redacted would work evening watch so I have talked with him on evening watch. He was working morning watch because these guys it was such a short of staff that the issue guys was working back to back shifts or staff it didn't matter. People who wanted money or wanted to you know they'd sign up for overtime. So redacted was one of the regular shoe staff on the evening watch. Yes, so I talked to him, redacted. I talked with him, redacted. Redacted would go between the three and also the OIC because he had the most knowledge out of those guys. So sometimes he, even though he was the three, he was the one with OIC duty. Question and OIC stands for officer in charge. Answer officer in charge. So he was doing all the rosters when it was time to move inmates inside the units you know he was in charge of ensuring that those century rosters were updated to ensure that the accountability of the unit was correct. To make sure that the inmates were placed in their proper cells.

2:09Who was this? So I'm sorry, hold on. Question and so on the shoe we want to be focusing on. Answer Noelle. Tova Noelle was one of the question and that's Tova. Answer now I know Tova. Now Tova, I can't remember if I spoke to Tova. But I know that I had hit all three shifts meaning that day watch. I was always up there on day watch evening watch. I stayed over because that's what the word wanted. He told me. Hey, make sure you go and hit all the three shifts. The warden told me to do it. So if the warden told me to do it, why wouldn't I go and do it? Question sure. Answer the warden we sat down. He said that these are the things that I want to happen. First I want to make sure walk through talk about make sure the staff is aware indesernable are doing this this and this. And also I know that you have that I put out an email so I just didn't tell them. What do you call that?

3:10Question so you sent an email to all the shoe. Answer yeah I did to all correctional services staff and I think I still got it. Question to all correctional answer yeah I still got it. Question did you ever provide that to anyone? Answer huh? Question did you ever provide that to anyone? Answer no they never asked for it. Question can you absolutely provide that to us? Answer yeah I think I have one and we can go to my office so I can show you. I don't want you to think I will bring it up for you. Question so would have this Michael Thomas and Tove and Owell been on that email? Answer Tove would have been because she's a correctional officer but not Thomas. Answer okay question you understand question okay. But I thought that everyone was considered a correctional officer that's not the case. Answer as far as when emergencies happen. When emergencies happen regardless of what your discipline is we all come together.

4:11It means you go into everyone when you came in the BOP everyone was given the opportunity. That when you went through correctional those tactics that you learned in Glynco it was about being a correctional officer. It wasn't about being a dentist or being a chaplain or whatever. It's about correctional principles. Question okay answer introduction to correctional principles. Question but as far as there was an email that just the people that are working in the correctional officer. Answer yes and I can show that to you question perfect. Answer I have that question awesome answer because it wasn't just me just talking to them. I put out guidance and I keep putting out guidance. It wasn't like it was one time I talked about inmates being placed on suicide watch. I talked about inmates putting on there what is the difference between close supervision. What is it suicide watch question psychological observation answer and psychological.

5:15There's no such thing is psychological and that you know there's no such thing. It's called close supervision. There's no such thing is psychological that was an MCC thing. Question okay answer that they made up. So it's a close supervision and or suicide watch. Question so you have at least one email though that you sent to correctional officers saying that Epstein needed a cellmate answer I wasn't saying Epstein but I do have two. I think I gave one email and one memorandum that I wrote for the 583 packet for Epstein. I think you may have that. I don't know if you have it and then I have wrote another one about the importance of doing 30 minute rounds in the special housing unit. Question okay yeah if you can after we're done either you can send it to me or you can give it to me answer I can give it to you I'm going to give you a copy. Question perfect. All right then just I think there's a few more like I don't know how to spell his name

6:16pronounces name but again that was another non-custody guy so redacted I believe worked he was a material handler I think redacted was a material handler so he's not correctional services anymore however did they have a background no I'm sorry redacted went to R&D so he was receiving and discharge so these staff members worked as correctional officers came up as correctional officers but their deli assignment their job descriptions changed there whatever their non-custody. Question so the people that worked in the shoe and the correctional officers they were aware of it but people that had different functions in the facility they may not have been answer may not have been because I wouldn't talk to them on a daily basis question and what about do you know if there was any kind of like posted notes or sticky notes answer yeah I had created it was one because I said orange card inmates I said make sure these particular inmates inmates high visibility inmates and I think I talked about that that the that the other

7:20inmate their card should be orange and those would be our high visibility inmates at you and I think I got an email about that too about the high visibility inmates inside the unit you should take special care to ensure these inmates are observed when you're doing your rounds question anything though about the actual cellmate requirement though do you know if there was any kind of like sticky note or any kind of posted about saying hey make sure that Epstein answer I can't remember but like I said I was putting out a lot of guidance you know coming from and you know coming from the warden and things that I would have thought that was beneficial to the correctional officers I was just putting that guidance out I kept putting it out you know like I said you know I'm going to be talking to them on putting out the guidance but if they don't open their email and don't read it question what about some of the people who are acting lieutenants somebody like an a redacted answer redacted sorry so redacted she would work correctional post question so she

8:26would not have known that answer she would have known question should she have known that Epstein had to have a second cellmate answer it's common knowledge that you're supposed to do the 30 minute rounds question uh-huh answer and be vigilant but however which you know necessarily that those protocols were placed on Jeffrey Epstein that he was supposed to have a cell I mean you see an orange card if you see the guidance I believe I had put something together that was on the OIC's desk on the desk talked about the high visibility inmates and Jeffrey Epstein was a high visibility inmate question but is it understood that a high visibility inmate like that needs a cellmate answer yes question okay so you're saying make sure you're doing rounds but it's also understood if it's a high visibility cellmate they need a cellmate at all times answer yes question okay and did they all understand that answer yes question all right and to include Thomas

9:29he cuts them off I don't know how about Noel is the next question answer because they're not custody and I don't believe I have that conversation with them I'm not going to lie I didn't have the conversation with them redacted what about some of these lieutenants like acting lieutenant like redacted answer redacted oh redacted was in correctional service and she I believe during the time was working on attorney conference tolerated care from 2311 racing victory lane yeah it's even better with chamba by my side race to chamba casino dot com let's chamba no purchase necessary vtw group void were prohibited by law ct and c's 21 plus sponsored by chamba casino question yes answer she was in correctional service she was working an attorney conference during that time so redacted I actually promoted her to acting lieutenant she was getting paid as a lieutenant so yes she would have known question so she should have or would have or should have answer yes question

10:34how about some of the other ones that were on you said redacted obviously you already said you specifically directed him answer if he yeah I brought him in the office and we spoke yes question do you know how and I think you said that you spoke to him on multiple occasions is that correct and made sure that he knew and made sure that Epstein needed a cellmate answer yes question okay what about redacted answer redacted I had conversations well I don't believe I had a conversation with her question should she have known based upon the orange card answer yes she should have known because I put the guidance out through the email question now the guidance though should set about you said it talked about rounds as opposed to actual cellmate requirement though correct answer I can't remember question okay answer you know I don't know because like I said again I put out a lot of guidance answer yeah question but I know the people who I actually spoke to as far as

11:37like hey you the OIC I mean you're the lieutenant of shoe that means you're working day watch that means any movement happens on day watch it don't happen on morning watch inmates are locked in their cells question right answer so anything day watch evening watch that shoe lieutenant should be aware question okay and we'll get into gets cut off so that's why we would have had the conversation when he and I had that conversation question and do you remember so you recall specifically talking with them do you and this is I want to know about aside from what they should have known specific conversations with redacted answer I can't remember about redacted I believe it's internal I came into the lieutenant's office and we spoke about it so as a collective the lieutenants were made aware I can't say I remember that I would come into the lieutenants and we would talk about Epstein so again between the guidance that was put out through the emails and the conversations that I

12:41would have just had encountering lieutenants yes but however I can tell you for sure I had a conversation with redacted answer and would have redacted made sure that those people working in the shoe knew this information answer he would have as lieutenant in charge yes he should have made sure somebody like somebody that's not in there although tovina well I think that was her quarterly post or at least she was in there a lot of times question uh-huh answer leading up to it so I should have made sure that she knew because she worked evening watch question what about Michael Thomas answer Michael Thomas probably not but by him working in the unit he would know I mean you would say okay if he's working on evening watch or morning watch there was no need to move inmates there was no showers that should have been taking place there was no earrings no medical nothing we had to open up a cell for for those inmates answer or question okay answer

13:44so most of those inmates was done on day watch there was no reason for them to move these guys question okay all right folks we're going to wrap up right here and in the next episode dealing with the topic we're going to pick up where we left off all the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box tolerate it here from 2311 racing another checkered flag for the time to celebrate with chamba jump in at chamba casino dot com let's chamba no purchase necessary btw group voidware prohibited by mall ctnc 21 plus sponsored by chamba casino