
businessNov 3, 202259:25pending
How to approach GTM with an engineering lens — Rich Rao’s advice from Google & Meta
Get every episode summarized
Each time In Depth publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.
Email me new episodesFree for 3 shows. No card needed.
About this episode
Our guest is Rich Rao, the VP of the Small Business Group at Meta, where he manages the global revenue and operations for properties including Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp. He also spent 10 years at Google, where he held a bunch of different go-to-market roles at the company, eventually becoming the GM for the Devices and Education verticals.
In today’s conversation, Rich shares how his engineering background influences his approach to GTM, from his architecture method to the concept of refactoring. We also wind back the clock to his earliest days at Google on the team that was building and selling Gmail for your domain. There are a ton of early startup mental models that Rich shares from this period in the company’s history, including why they ended up ditching free trials and his biggest pricing lessons.
You can email us questions directly at [email protected] or follow us on Twitter @ twitter.com/firstround and twitter.com/brettberson.
Get every episode summarized
Each time In Depth publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.
Email me new episodesFree for 3 shows. No card needed.
Hosts & guests
No transcript yet
This episode has not been transcribed. Request it and it moves to the front of the queue.
More episodes
More from In Depth

The fastest way to learn is to run two competing bets | Jay Parikh (EVP CoreAI,...
In Depth
Aug 27, 20261:02:29pending

What startups get wrong about enterprise | Lindsey Scrase (COO, Checkr)
In Depth
Jul 30, 20261:08:12pending

How Gamma pulled off their AI pivot | Jon Noronha (Co-founder and CPO of Gamma)
In Depth
Jul 24, 20261:02:51pending

Why Plaid’s COO cold-calls new hires | Eric Sager (COO of Plaid)
In Depth
Jul 16, 20261:09:04pending