Hour 1- Jaxson Dart out for the season

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3:02Thanks for listening to Sugats and Company Live Podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from 3 to 5 PM Eastern noon to 2 PM Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for Sugats and Company Live at FoxPortsRadio.com or Stream Us Live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. Get this party started. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome into Sugats and Company Live. Charles McDonald is going to join us in about 15 to 20 minutes. Reese Davis going to join us in hour number two. Taylor, let's welcome in a new affiliate here to the radio show. Fox Sports 1370 AM in Baltimore, Maryland. Welcome, Maryland. Welcome, Baltimore. I enjoy taking my girls lacrosse team that I coach into your state and beating all of your teams. How about that? How is that for an introduction, Taylor? Underrated city Baltimore. Is it really love their crab cakes? Put it on the ball is Baltimore underrated city.

4:04I don't think Baltimore is an underrated city. I think it's just a benign city. No one really thinks about I love Baltimore. I say this. Welcome, Baltimore. I say this loving Baltimore, loving Fox Sports 1370 AM. In Baltimore, welcome to the program. I'm sorry. I've insulted you three times on your way into the show. Taylor, let's start here with Jackson Dart before we get to Charles McDonald. I cannot believe that you're still interested in talking about Jackson Dart. He is now out for the year, but I do think there is an interesting question for both the giants and the commanders to kind of ponder. And that's what do you do with Jackson Dart and Jaden Daniels, both guys who have been injured, both guys who have showed a ton of promise, especially Jaden Daniels in his rookie year taking that team to an NFC championship game. But what do you do because they're injury prone? Because there are so many great quarterbacks coming out. And this year's NFL draft, what are those two teams going to do in terms of do you keep

5:09Jackson Dart? Do you ride it out with Jackson Dart? Do you draft a young quarterback? What do you do if you're the commanders? I do find that part of this pretty fascinating. Yeah, there's more optimism in Washington with the fact that you would expect Jaden Daniels to come back at some point this season where on the other end of that Jackson Dart is done for this season. And I think Jaden Daniels has proven more in his time in the NFL than somebody like Jackson Dart, where this felt like such a big year for Jackson Dart when Harball gets to New York to prove whether or not he's the franchise quarterback. And that's why when it comes to Jackson Dart, I think the conversation is much bigger than whether the Giants can survive this season or not with James Winston. Sure. Because now with Dart, you're having to ask yourself whether or not he's your franchise quarterback going forward, whether or not you could count on him to be healthy moving forward. Well, have you seen enough from Jackson Dart, where if you're John Harball, you are convinced that's my quarterback. That's my guy because keep in mind. So when John took that job, yes, of course, the Giants and organization, a pillar organization,

6:13they haven't been good in a decade. One of the main reasons that he took that job was because he thought he had a young quarterback and would have that quarterback for the next 10 or 15 years. Jackson Dart is probably reason number one as to why John Harball took that job. Yeah, the problem that I'm running into with Jackson Dart is availability has to matter. Whether you're deciding whether or not you could build the next five years of your franchise around somebody. And it doesn't really mean that Dart can't be the guy. It just means that the Giants can assume the question has already been answered. And with somebody like Dart and with the landscape of the NFL, maximizing what you do with your quarterback in their rookie window is so crucial before you even get to that second contract. And now you're losing another year there to where the injury is so damaging, but beyond this season because you're potentially entering next season where you need to answer three questions is Dart healthy for next season, right? Is Dart good enough for next season? Well, that's a big one.

7:13And can Dart stay healthy for next season? Yes, can he ever stay healthy for a full season? You can ask those same questions about Jaden Daniels, although he did stay healthy for his rookie season and we saw how that went. And you're right, I've seen enough from Jaden Daniels where I am willing to put up with some of the injury stuff and ride him out as my younger. I've seen enough with Jackson Dart, I am not certain that anyone has seen enough to convince themselves that you know what, we don't need a backup plan here, a quarterback, we don't need a young backup plan here, a quarterback. And where it could get really interesting is if I tell you next season, the giants are picking in the top five. Yes. And you start to enter that that Mensa from Miami conversation, Dante Moore, Trinidad Chambers is right is rising up draft boards archmaning. Are you getting into the conversations now of the giants would entertain one of those names at quarterback or are you strengthening around Dart with somebody like Jeremiah Smith from Ohio State where if you really thought Jackson Dart was your franchise quarterback,

8:16you're racing to hand that card in to get him that number one receiver. And then all the sudden Malik neighbors is probably the best wide receiver to in the NFL. There is just no way. I don't care. I mean, there is no way you have watched Jackson Dart and you're able to convince yourself that Jackson Dart is going to be able to stay healthy and is going to be a long terms. And I hate saying this because I love Jackson Dart and I love his style of play and I love his leadership and I think he could be a great quarterback. But the injuries are something and before the knee, it was the head. And now it's a need combined with all the head injuries and you just can't convince yourself. I don't think you can. If you're John Harbott and not take a quarterback or rookie quarterback in what is being called the greatest draft for quarterbacks in the history of the NFL, you have to take one. You just do. You cannot be sold on Jackson Dart long term. You can't especially because Jackson Dart's whole thing is is having that escape ability in the pocket where he didn't necessarily show that when he was at Ole Miss with Lane

9:17Kiffin. But ever since he's gotten to New York, he's made it pretty clear like running is a big part of his game. And now if you're having to restructure his knee, how does he look coming back to that? If that's an element of his game, that's that's kind of been taken away. And now you're relying on him to be more of a pocket passer. Yes, that's not really Jackson Dart's whole thing. You're taking away some of the gate, some of the stuff that makes him special is being taken away because of the knee because you really don't want him running. You know, like you just don't. And so I'm even more confused now than I was when we started this conversation. John Harbott has to take a quarterback. He does. I am not envious of anybody in that giant building right now. Because Jackson Dart has been hurt for, you know, it's been known that he's going to have season ending surgery for like less than six hours at this point. And I have run through every possible alternative in my head, every possible scenario for the giants moving forward. And there really isn't a great answer.

10:18Well, James, I'm not certain he's the answer. He certainly wasn't the answer against the Rams. By the way, do you think Jackson Dart, do you think Jackson Dart was aware of the criticism that Caleb Williams was getting for leaving his game and really sold the fact that he might come back into the game because my brother who loves this stuff. He's text me. You got we had Jackson on our fantasy team. So we lost him, but he's text me. You got to love Jackson. I'm like, who's Jackson and he's like Jackson Dart. You got a level. He's spelled the Jax. I said, why do we have to love him? He goes, the dude tore his ACL and wanted to play football still. You got to love a guy like that. I'm responding to my brother. I think he did that just to make Caleb Williams look bad. So if you're, let's say you're the bears and you're the giants right now, right? Would you rather have a quarterback that's injured or a quarterback that everybody is saying might be soft? Yes, you're normally going to take the generational quarterback talent in Caleb Williams.

11:20Right. But I do think there is something there to Jackson Dart where he, then there's no way he was able to avoid the narrative of everybody questioning Caleb Williams toughness. The people from the couches with their potato chips and their Coca-Cola questioning whether or not an NFL quarterback was justified whether or not his, he probably felt like his hamstring was falling off the boat. Of course. Yeah. And then all the tough guys on the internet are saying, oh, this guy, start acting a little tougher Caleb Williams. Put it on the pole. Would you rather have a healthy Caleb Williams or an injured Jackson Dart? What a ridiculous question to ask. So what do you think they're going to do? If you're the giant, you have to go with the first one. You have to take a quarterback first round. You are now, you, it probably wasn't the plan when you started the season. The plan was not for your quarterback to go down with the season ending injury where he needs surgery and a guy who's already been injured in years past. So I think if you're John Harbott, I think we've talked ourselves into it. If we're John Harbott and Joe Shane, you have to take a quarterback here in the first

12:23round. Yeah, but then I start thinking about Jeremiah Smith in New York where if like Jackson Dart's knee, if if Jackson Darts knee where the ACL is still intact, but everything else is torn. If they could fix that and Jackson Dart could come back and be 90 to 95% of the quarterback that that everybody kind of expects him to be. Yes. He does trend towards more towards being that that franchise quarterback level of performance where if now you're telling me you'd have that version of Jackson Dart and you're pairing him with somebody like Jeremiah Smith. Right. All of a sudden I could talk to myself into that scenario too. Who would be most upset if the giants did indeed draft a quarterback next season would it be Cam Skataboo? Yeah. Those two have hitched each other way. Like if they handed Cam Skataboo the card to go up to get down to reading at the draft, he refuses to say the quarterbacks name. The part that I'm so confused with like they were talking to Cam Skataboo after the game and he was like, yeah, Jackson Dart would have played back in that game.

13:26You're hearing Joe Shane saying like we think we have avoided a major catastrophe in the injury. Right. What happened in the communication of this injury that everybody was so confident, the Twitter doctors are so confident that there's no structural damage to Jackson Dart. The initial reports felt like everything was intact to say maybe four to six week injury and now worst case scenario. He's out for the season. Is there a chance that Joe Shane, the giants, they were watching it the way we were watching it and he's walking around and it doesn't appear to be that bad of a limp and he's shaking hands and he's on the sidelines and he's being a leader and they're like, yeah, he's fun. It's crazy what adrenaline he could do. They're like, he looks fine, does. He had so much adrenaline. He was like, I think I could go back in this game. It sounded like they had a drag the uniform off his body. That's what I'm saying. He knew he couldn't go, but this is how you play it if you're Jackson Dart. He knew very well. He was not going back into that game, but he also was very well aware of what Caleb Williams did the day before.

14:27And so what did Jackson Dart do? He gave the appearance. He said the things he needed to say and all the reports came out that Jackson Dart still wanted to play even while being that injured. It's a great move because that's why my brother texts me. You got to love Jackson. My brother has never texted me anything about any giant quarterback or anything giant related in the few in the 53 years. I forgot how old I was in the 53 years that I've been alive. He has never texted me anything about a giant, the New York Giants, any giant Andre the giant. He has never texted me anything about it. But what do I get last night? I got to love Jackson. That's a great move. Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gods and Company live weekday. He said 3 PM Eastern, 12 PM Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Strong hands built America and kept it running for 250 years. Strong hands also keep Copenhagen moving today.

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16:32and finances at risk. Nine email addresses please. And if those sites put your information back online, and a dozen phone numbers, Lifelock will remove that too. Save up to 30% with promo code news at lifelock.com. Terms apply. Charles McDonald is the host of the Athletic Alive. We'll get to Jackson, Dart, and everything going on in the NFL. But I have to ask you, Charles, where are you doing this from? I mean, what is going on right now? So I live in Los Angeles now. I would say I live here by having quite moved here just yet. You know, I was in a hotel last week. I'm going to Airbnb this week, but I'm not in the alleyway. I'm actually in the backyard of this Airbnb. But I get to stay in this bungalow right here. I don't get to go inside the house. So yeah, so I've been, you know, just walking around and taking my little smoke breaks. Look at the Hollywood signs from the top of the mountain here. And try not to go insane. It's like, yeah, I luckily be at the like, they were very, very kind to me.

17:35And they put me up in places I'm not paying for myself. Right. But there's still a little piece of you that dies every day. You live out of a suitcase. So I'm hoping to get into. I'm not hoping I'm going to be in an apartment next week. And then I'm going to have my dad send me all my stuff. Like good fathers do, you know, Taylor, put it on the pole. There's a piece of you die every day. You live out of a suitcase. Yeah. What is today's date? September 23rd? Uh, yeah, the 23rd. Okay. So I've been living out of a suitcase since. Let's call it like August 22nd. Right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm basically dead. I feel like you and I are similar in this regard. I love the bungalow in the back. I don't want to be in the main house. I like a little pool house of bungalows. Some sort of shed in the back. Smoke breaks do whatever the hell I want. No one's watching. What do you think? No, it's perfect. Like they have a little outdoor space like behind the bungalow, which is where I do my little smoke break. So when I get insomnia, uh, it's not it's really not that bad.

18:37Uh, I think I will say this. If the weather was worse, I would be like miserable. I would have told Taylor off today for sure. But in beautiful outside, in beautiful every day, it's just give me reason to keep living, you know. Yeah. Jackson darn house surprise for you. I just based on what you saw. And based on him kind of walking around the sideline and shaking hands and letting everyone know, hey, it looks like I'm going to be okay. How surprised were you to hear that news about darn? It looks like it'll be out for the season. Um, not really surprised based on how like the way it was knee bent during that game. It was funny that we were we were we do our like our our live watching lungs for the athletic uh, live show. And Max Brown, thank quarterback of USC. He's on the show with me. And he was like, oh, you know, dark said he could have gone back in that game. I was like, man, if any player that doesn't matter, it's Jackson Dart. Like, he would probably go out there if his leg was like actually hanging off the bones. And I was like, man, like that was a pretty bad hit. And also, even when you get like the, uh, the, uh, the first like diagnosis of an MCL

19:40sprain, like you can still be out for the season just for like an MCL issue. And then unfortunately, we see the actual problems like a Miniskus tear, um, which is a big problem for the Giants because, uh, James Winston certainly looked like a guy who was on TV. Awesome. You know, like, yeah, I happened to game was over for my buddy, sexy. He's like, I thought James was retired. Like, wasn't he doing World Cup Cup games? Was like, yeah. Yeah, he was. And now he's going to be quarterback in the New York Giants for the rest of the season. And if he looked like, if, if, if, if Monday's game was any indication that this is about to be a really long season for Giants fans, I don't know. It's, it's tough. But yeah, like, I mean, obviously, whenever someone like, like, Jackson dog and Trey, you never once see that. But he's like one of those guys where it's like, just because he said he was feeling good. Does not mean that he was actually good, you know? Yeah, but it was great because he made Caleb Williams look so bad. I mean, yeah. Okay. Okay. I, I can't defend Caleb on that one because that was a lot. But I will defend the Bears. I was the Bears.

20:41The last time they had a, like a true legitimate franchise quarterback was World War II. Okay. Like, if anyone, anyone looks at Caleb Williams the wrong way, put him on the cart. Yes. Like, if someone breathes on him the wrong way, put him on the cart. And yeah, the grade one hamstring with the, the fist pound leaving on the cart. That was a bit much. I have to apologize to Mikey. Hey, he was going to swoop in with that joke. And I held him off. And I came in with, I'm sorry, dude. He's mad at me. Charles, he's mad at me. Why? Why? Because he was going to make the same joke that I made. You know? He big timed me. He gave me a no. I've got the next follow up. I don't know. I'll hold, I'll hold my joke and then he just took it. Now I'm like, all right, I got that next. I didn't know what you know. I was surprised, Taylor didn't write that one. Taylor, Taylor, Taylor's been showing us some funny stuff in our little pops up on group chat. But I was getting you to say just some very silly things. Yes. Always bashing down our laps.

21:41But we love down our laps. We love down our laps. Charles, if you're the giant, a lot of people are doing the thing today saying like, who could the giants bring in? Do you just have to hope that James Winston just got like pop quiz? If this was like a school and now if you give him some time to prepare for the test, he might do well. Do well like a what like wavelength are we talking about? Passing. I do think it'll play better than he did on on Monday. But you can't play worse. It's like that. That was absolutely a guy who was like, damn, like I haven't even been covering football this off season. Like the other football. And now I'm playing in a game and get Aaron Donald in the Rams. Like, no, no, sir, that didn't look good. But I think it'll get better because like he's one of those guys where if he closes his eyes and flings the ball just act really enough, then he can actually like make some plays down the field and stuff like that. But the problem is that he was just so inaccurate on on on Sunday. And now now I got giant fans texting like, oh, are we going to drop the quarterback and see him like,

22:42whoa, it's been a few hours. Yes. Yeah. Hold on, hold on, hold on. No, they're going to lose a lot of games this year. That defense sucks. And I'm sorry, so does James right now. We'll get to overrated underrated or properly rated in just a second. No one's ever played that game on radio before or podcast. But we're going to play it with you in just a second. You're a Falcons fan and I'm wondering, does anyone want to put a quarterback for that team? I mean, anyone? No, no, no. Well, I guess Cooper Rush does. Yes. Because it's an opportunity. Right. But poorly, right. Poor, poor leaps. Dude, that game pissed me this week. I can't even lie. Like I was I was past like getting mad at some of this stuff and I knew the season was going to be long and bad. But not like not like that, you know, like three points against the Panthers. They just gave 59 last week. You can't get the end zone one time. Different zero red zone plays the entire season. Like they're so damn bad. And then you know that I think that's going to, oh, my pen is going to come out. Who gives a crap out of my penics, man?

23:43Like that's what I'm saying. If you're a drink London fan, it's the undercool. Like maybe that's good for you. But for me, no, it's all bad. I didn't I do. They're going to lose a lot of games. I knew they're going to suck. But I didn't expect to be this bad. And last night on the show, we had Sean Payne's daughter sitting next to me during that giant game. And she was trolling me about the Falcon. I had the spawn of savings. See next to me. She's a lovely person. She's great. But you know, her dad like ruined my teenage years. Many Sundays ruined by that man. And I couldn't even have my come up. It's because Cooper rushed my damn quarterback right now. Charles, how'd you feel about the Falcon stand that brought a sign to the game that said we want strand. Get a life of each color. That's why I feel get a life. Do you like what? What the fuck? Come on. Talk about some. If any Falcon stand knew what University of Minnesota more head was before August, they had tip to you. But that would give the crowd about this guy. Oh, you six five two 40 and he's got an arm. Well, if he was any good, he wouldn't be playing there.

24:44Someone's given the NL bad to go play it like, you know, some big time score or something like that. And then when he when he threw a pick on his first pass, I was like, oh man, like that was pretty bad. And then it got worse because I don't know if you saw the fumble that he had on the last play of the game where he was like a baffin throw screen pass untouched in the ball to slip out of his hands. Yes. And for a fumble to end the game. So I mean, I don't get a crowd about Cooper rush, Jack strand, two Michael panics. Like I started off with Matt Ryan throwing a 62 year pass on the first throw of his career before that. I had Mike Vic. So I need a little bit more before you get my loyalty. Hopefully we're going to get somebody in the draft next year that just doesn't suck or has two knees in the working back. But Charles, what is so funny and frustrating, I guess, if you're a Falcon fan is, do you know how many quarterbacks would leave their current team to go play with those guys in Atlanta? I know. That's the piece of the off play. I'm watching I'm watching Drake London get open and then the ball's soaring over his head. Like Kyle Pieds, he caught his first pass first pass this season on Sunday. And he was wide open.

25:45He's six six, he's almost six seven. And he had the skyscraper up to go get the ball. All right, Charles. Let's get to overrated underrated or properly rated. I am told that we have music for this, which I'm super no imaging, just music, baby steps. We'll get there. But let's let's have Taylor take it away here. Taylor get us started. So Charles, I'm going to give you takes from after week two and you have to say whether they're overrated underrated or properly rated as a take. No one's ever done this before. No, no, no. History. No, we're trailblazers, man. The first one is the Texans despite being oh and two are fine. Overrated underrated or properly rated. We want to say probably for all these because these are my tanks. Yeah. We'll workshop some in. Yes, we'll workshop some it. Yes, I got one. It's a prop. Yes. As they properly rated, I think they're offence has actually been okay throughout the first portion of the season.

26:45Like C.J. Stroud has actually bounced back no matter how many times Taylor says he hates some any sucks. He's these bounce back this season so far. And I think last last week, I guess, I wouldn't play the Bengals last week. I mean, that that Bengals even just pretty good. I think that's actually one of the stories of the season so far that the Bengals defense looks like, you know, they got some adults in the room and it's actually working. But I think as far as C.J. Stroud goes, he's been playing better. As long as they can say healthy, I think the points will come because they've been moving the ball really well. It's just kind of been sputtering out in the red zone. Okay, overrated, underrated, properly rated, the Miami Dolphins will go winless this season. Hmm. They're going for it. They are, man. They are going for it. Do they do they play? Do they play the foulries this year? I think they do. I think they do. Yes. They do. They do. To a revenge game. To a revenge game. No, okay. Yeah, so man, that might be, man, I think I'm gonna properly rated just because they look awful,

27:50dude. I saw something that Malik Willis only has eight runs on the season so far, which is like, man, you might be trying to lose a bat to case because everything else looks so bad. De Shom Watson is going to be the starting quarterback for the Browns for the remainder of the season. Overrated, underrated, properly rated. Properly rated. I've been saying this since April or not since April since January before that. I think Jimmy Haslum is a very crude man. And he, I know he looked at that quarterback room and said, he saw at the time, De Shom Watson, Shredor Sanders, Dylan Gabriel said, all of you guys stink. But I've only paid one of you guys, you know, $250 million. So that guy's gonna play. And now that De Shom has had his first good game as a Brown, maybe there's one from like the Ravens, like his first year there, but you got one of the best games by Browns quarterback in a long time. He's gonna start the rest of the season. And I got to warn people, the best case scenario for Jimmy Haslum here is that De Shom Watson is

28:50good enough for a contract extension so that he can offload some of this dead cap. Right. And some of these void years after, because right now there's someone hooked for like, like $40 to $50 million on De Shom for multiple years after his contract expires. But that's way to clear it up. It's with a contract extension, which means De Shom needs to play well enough for that to happen. It's really grim. In a draft that saw a cam ward go number one and Jackson Dart go in the first round. Tyler Schuck is the best quarterback in that draft class. Overrated. It's underrated properly. Overrated. Overrated. I'm never. I'm just overrated. I'm just overrated. Right. Yes. I want it. I want it. I want it to make him say it. Look, he's obviously playing the best out of those guys right now, but overrated until he's not on that rest of the TV. That's it. That's it. Charlie, what about this take? The Vegas Raiders have two quarterbacks better than Justin Herbert. I love that. Overrated, underrated or properly rated. Properly. You get properly rated.

29:52We're we're it's crazy. Where's get off the internet? The lock off Twitter rated. That's what you need to do. You're under your goddamn mind. Right. No, see, see, I'm a, but all of real. And I kind of don't get the Justin Herbert hate like who is his directed at in general? Because like, does anyone think he's as good as Patrick Mahomes or anything? No, no, like he's on. Yeah, he's like on the back press got tier quarterbacks. That's like crap against the Dines. They played well this past week. So I kind of I kind of don't get all the the Herbert. I guess angst because like he's he's live will have bad games because he's not one of like the top top elite guys in the in the games. Like if he sucks for two games the row, I think that's just bad timing, but they'll like they'll figure it out and they'll get to the playoffs. They'll get wax in the first round. Like always. Stu, if I could peel back the curtain a bit, me and Charles are in the college football group chat together. Yes. And I kind of just throw takes out there as bait. Yeah. And when Charles latches on to one that angerly, I'm like, oh man, we got something. You're good. No, you're good. I do.

30:52You're good at two. I'll be mine in my business like having a good day. And then I'll just see Taylor. Oh, let's rank all UNC quarterbacks. So my same house underrated. I'm going to jump to my phone and kill you. I'm trying to take a stroll. I'm trying to enjoy a smoke. Leave me alone. You want to talk about Sam? How I don't want to talk about me. You're missing your my keys, Williams. That's Taylor's version of fishing. Yeah, let me just throw this out there. See if I can catch any of the water. Yeah, and then he got me the other day. Like it was like Cedar Shows having a good game. And Cedar had one bad play. See Taylor Bipoli's Cedar Shows sucks. Like dude, no, that's rage bait. And it works. And it's great. All right, a couple more. We'll get you out of here. Caleb Williams, we made fun of him earlier. But I have said he's going to be the greatest quarterback in NFL history. Overrated, underrated or properly rated. Oh, man. He's good. You're thinking about it, man. No, I don't think he's about it.

31:54I don't want to outright say no. But he could be. Yes. You know, that gaming is a penthouse. What's incredible. And you got to see the stark difference between the quarterback, like Caleb Williams, and the quarterback like Cooper Rush, falling league, but I'd address. I think Caleb, you know, if he, if people can just just let go of maybe some of their feelings towards him. They can get closer to you, too, God, and say, yeah, he could be one of the best quarterbacks ever. Like when this is said and done, I don't know if I, if I, if he'll get, you know, the seven Super Bowl rings. But I do think if you can be the first Bears quarterback to throw for 4,000 yards, why not? Yeah. Why not? That definitely makes him like top five at least. Yeah. Yes, you're right. Just that. Yes. Charles, going with the New York Jets after Aaron Glent's clock mismanagement, it's over for Aaron Glent. Like he might not get fired today. He might not get fired tomorrow. But there's no coming back for him. There's no coming back for me. He's one and one. Yeah, I've got it. Yes, we should be two and out though. I mean, we shouldn't.

32:54Yes, yes, I will agree with you. Should be two and no. Yes. Uh, but this team is so much better than it was last year. I don't know if I want to say he's done, but I did just watch Ricky Morris season where he had similar clock management blunders and even though they didn't lose every game. Uh, yeah, he still had the go at the end of the year. So I look, if I was a Jets fan, I would have like mixed feelings about his whole Aaron Glent situation. Obviously the team's gotten better. They're a lot better than last year. David daily looks like he's going to be a star. Like that. I think that that pick looks like a win. But do like these some of these coaches, they think they spend so much time on like the football things that they forget how to count to three and they can't use their timeouts effectively. Yes. And I think yeah, he had one of those blunders the other day, unfortunately, which is which is up to see because they absolutely should have won that game. Two more will get you out of here. Uh, Fernando Mendoza will not start a game this year for the Raiders. Oh, that's ridiculous. Underrated. I mean, they're in the playoff hunt. I mean, it's two weeks. You know, I wanted to say, wow, that's ridiculous.

33:56Because I, well, no, I want to say, I did say that. I did just, but now you think about it. Right. Now I'm thinking about it because I, because Kirk's been good. Yes, Kirk's been good, honestly. And last year with the Falcons, like Kirk was fine last year too. After Penn's got hurt, he played like some to quality football. And then I think obviously getting a little bit better, touching the clink, who be actors here. So he looks good. It's frustrating. But the collapse is coming. Like Kirk always does this. He's started off the season pretty well. That's fair. Yes. And then yeah, once the gets into November, he plays that crap and then Mendoza plays. But uh, shoot, like you said, they're two and oh. I tried to get my guy Ted Wins to say the Raiders are back. They wouldn't quite do it. Like, man, when did the last time you were two and oh, say you're back. Yeah. Overrated underrated or properly rated. This is the year Josh Allen gets a ring. Hmm. Now I've said properly rated properly rated. Just because that that builds off fences on fire right now.

34:57I think the defense will get better as this season goes along. Also, the Lions, like, I know they're, they're, their defense banged up that the offense is still tough challenge for all the skill talent that they have. So I don't think giving up 31 points is such a, such a terrible thing. Especially you could score 41 on the back end. But hey, got to give it to Terry Pagula that offer or that press conference he had was absolutely cracked out of his mind bizarre. But Joe Brady and Joe Brady seems ready for the challenge so far. All right, Charles, we appreciate it. He's the host of the athletic live. He's living out of his suitcase. He's losing his role. He's in his life. With each passing day, we hope he survives. Thank you for doing this man. We always appreciate it. Yeah, thanks guys. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk line up in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio.com. And within the IHARDS Radio app search FSR to listen live.

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38:12Sometimes four. It's all the stuff I don't want to be doing. Podcasting is very lonely. The only reason I do all of that is to get to this. It's kind of like Andy Dufrein. It's Shawshank Redemption. And he's crawling through a river of you know what? To get to the other side. To get to freedom. And this show and you, the callers and interacting with you and saying hello to you. I don't care what you want to talk about. But Mikey A and Taylor are convinced that we cannot get phone calls on this show. Not that we solicit them too often. And I told them hey, it's all in the messaging. If I simply tell them that I am crawling through a river of restavis and trolls McDonald just to get to the callers here at three o'clock, that's a call that I would like these two hours not to be replays of stuff that we've done before. I would like it to be me and you interacting about whatever it is that you would like to talk about.

39:15And so I've been telling Mikey A and Taylor that this is really all in the messaging. Because if I'm not taking calls for two hours a day, I don't see any point in doing this. I got to be honest with you. But I'll continue to do it because the paychecks are great. So I told Mikey A, I told Taylor this is all about messaging. If you tell the people this is what I want the show to be, they will make it the show that I want it to be. And so I told the two of them all right to get out of the way. Taylor will be back when we have restavis on. But I told them to get out of the way because I want to see who's right. Are they right or am I right? And so I'm simply going to give out the phone number. I am not going to take calls here. I will take them next segment. Okay. And it's the only segment we have left because restavis is coming up and because we have a game of more Mike Lee. And I will not cancel a game of more Mike Lee even for callers. Okay. So 877 99 on Fox and I am dead serious. I do not care what it is that you want to talk about.

40:18It could be sports. It could be outside of sports. It could be just to say hello. I don't care. All right. But I crawl through three hours of lonely podcasting to get to live interaction with human beings. And that's what I would like this show to be. So 877 99 on Fox. That is 877 99 on Fox. Now Mikey is convinced because we're not on serious XN that we are incapable of getting callers. I however, I believe in AM radio. I do. That was me choking on my own flim because I made myself live. I believe in AM radio. I believe in radio. I love radio. I got into this industry to do radio live radio to take calls. 877 99 on Fox. So we have a new affiliate here. And I want to bring on Dan buyer because he is the ruler of all Mount Rushmores here. So Dan, we have a new affiliate. I'm not certain you're aware.

41:18It's Fox Sports 1370 AM in Baltimore. Welcome to the program. And please call. But Dan, we do this for all new affiliates here. I have a definitive Mount Rushmore of athletes who played in the city of Baltimore. Okay. Okay. So this is just played in a Baltimore uniform? Played in a Baltimore uniform. If I was going to do a Mount Rushmore of athletes who were born in the city of Baltimore, which it would be easy. Yes. Well, it would be Carmelo. It would be Phelps. It would be Cal Ripkin, which is funny. And it would be Babe Ruth, right? Yes. Okay. Because, you know, the B and Babe stands for Baltimore. And you can't spell Baltimore without the B.A. in Babe Ruth. But I have what I believe to be. Now it's, you're probably going to question it. And just so the audience at Baltimore knows and I apologize to the other 254 stations that we're on right now. We're talking Baltimore sports.

42:19But I think this is definitive. Although I have a feeling that the people of Baltimore are going to disagree. And I have a feeling that Dan is going to disagree. We do a Mount Rushmore Monday. Every single Monday we skipped it this week. I was, uh, I was observing the Jewish holidays here. So Dan, I'm going to give it to you. And I want to get your thoughts on it. All right. Oh, I appreciate the music. In no particular. Cal Ripkin, Jr. Ray Lewis. Ed Reed. And this is where it gets dicey. Joe Flacco. Yes, I left off with our Jackson. Yes, I left off Johnny United. Yes, his Bordock record. I had said in my ear. I left off Brooks Robinson because he loves all things baseball. Uh, Dan, how do you feel about this? Well, Stu, I wrote my own out when I knew that you were going to do this. And I wanted to see how many we matched.

43:20We matched two. We matched two. Okay. We matched Cal Ripkin, Jr. And we matched Ray Lewis. We did not match Ed Reed. Yes. We did not match Joe Flacco because I had Brooks Robinson. And I had Johnny Anitis. This may be the old school in me. But if we're talking Baltimore, I am going to have a Baltimore cult on that list. I think the interesting thing for both of us is we both left. Lamar Jackson off your Mount Rushmore. At least Flacco's got a ring. Lewis has got two of them. You're 100% correct. But Dan, if I asked you, hey, if I lined them up, Lamar Jackson, okay. Johnny, United, Joe Flacco. And you're running Baltimore. You're running the Ravens. And I say you have to sprint to one of those three quarterbacks. And he'll be your quarterback. Which quarterback are you sprinting to? Probably Lamar Jackson.

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