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0:00Everybody has that list. The things you know you should get around to eventually, organizing the garage, updating important documents, taking care of long-term financial planning. Life insurance tends to live on that list for a lot of people, not because it isn't important, because people assume it's going to be complicated. That's why policy genius exists. Policy genius is an online insurance marketplace that helps you compare life insurance quotes from top insurers in one place for free. Their license team helps explain your options clearly, compare coverage amounts and prices, answer questions, and help you find a policy that fits your needs. No guesswork, no confusion, just clarity. And while they're helping with the shopping, you can get back to enjoying summer with the people who matter most. Policy genius has helped thousands of families find the right coverage and has earned thousands of five star reviews in the process, because some items on the to-do list are worth checking off.

1:01With policy genius, you can see if you can find 20-year life insurance policies starting at just $276 a year for $1 million in coverage. Head to policygenius.com to compare life insurance quotes from top companies and see how much you could save. That's policygenius.com. You know what's wild? Most people are still overpaying for car insurance, just because it's a pain to switch. That's why there's Jerry. Jerry is the only app that compares rates for over 50 insurers in minutes, and it helps you switch fast with no spam calls or hidden fees. Drivers who save with Jerry could save over $1,300 a year. Before you renew your car insurance policy, do yourself a favor. Download the Jerry app or head to jerry.ai slash wire. Hey Ryan Reynolds here for Mint Mobile. Now I don't know if you've heard, but Mint's premium wireless is $15 a month, but I'd like to offer one other perk. We have no stores. That means no

2:03small talk. Crazy weather we're having. No, it's not. It's just weather. It is an introvert's dream. Give it a try at mintmobile.com slash switch. Up from payment of $45 for three month plan, $15 per month equivalent required. New customer offer for three months only, then full price plan options available. Taxes and fees extra. Seamintmobile.com. The following program is pre-recorded. From the Hope Center in Plano, Texas, this is Hope in the Night. Late Night Talk Radio offering biblical hope and practical help. This program has been on the air for over 30 years, helping people. And it's a ministry of hope for the heart. To find out more about that ministry, go to HopeForTheHeart.org. On that website, you can listen to previous Hope in the Night programs, make one time or recurring donations, and you can click on the store button and order anything from June's resource catalog. We also have free resources,

3:05which will give you a sample of June's most popular writings. If you'd like to text the word free to 70919, we'll get you signed up with a sample. Well, I'm Tom Petrosky and I'm here with author and speaker, June Hunt. June, many people at some time in their life battle depression. Can you talk to us about depression? Well, I would say, first of all, recognize that depression is real and it's acknowledging the feelings of being pressed down. When I think of depression, I think of a heart being literally pressed down. Now, we know what it's like to have a deep depression and if it's been raining and there's some mud, you see an evident

4:06deep depression by virtue of stepping in that area when it's been raining. Well, the truth is the real life, real pain hits us in our lives and there's no one who could say, oh, I've never, I've never been depressed, meaning we've all had our hearts pressed down and that can be the death of a loved one. It could be rejection. It can be things that everyone goes through in terms of the loss of the dearest person in your life, whether it's death, divorce, whether it's anything that causes a separation. In fact, in the Bible, we read, I'm suffering and in pain, rescue me, oh God, by your saving power. But we have to understand this. The pain is temporary.

5:13And not only can we literally reach out in the most positive way, calling upon God who created us, he infinitely knows us. And remember, one day he will put it into all pain and suffering, for crew believers, the Bible says he will wipe every tear from their eyes. There'll be no more death or sorrow or crying of pain. All these will be gone forever. That's in Revelation 21 verse 4. Now, this is where we have to acknowledge the importance of caring for physical needs because there are times when people can feel depressed. And I say depressed like that because I think of an iron.

6:16And I'd love to share depression this way. I think of one of those old fashioned iron so you put imagine it being on a heart shaped pillow. You put that heavy iron on the kind of pillow that has foam and has an heart shape. If you leave it there for, let's say, two months, a month, the problem is that iron will literally depress the pillow and it'll stay depressed. Now, if you put it on the next day, take it off. That pillow could probably come back to its original shape. But when that heavy iron is on that pillow for a long time, that's when you can be in a state of depression. Not a state like Texas or a way that the heart does not respond immediately

7:29as it would if we had not had that heavy weight. So check the physical needs. In other words, go to a medical doctor. Sometimes there will be a certain medication a person is taking and they need to ask for a different medication. Get nutrition that is healthy. I think that would be protein can be needed. But then evaluate the stress in your life. Interesting. The Bible says, give me relief from my distress. Stress can become distress. And sometimes we need to change and it can be who we are around. It can be a situation that is so discouraging when we have a choice. And many times we have choices. Sometimes we don't

8:33fail. We have choices. But indeed, we have choices. I think also the spiritual part of us, we are body, soul and spirit. Many people, like me at one time, I didn't know anything about a spiritual life. And yet, all the difference in the world, I grew up in a very painful home. And I received a great relief after entering into a life-changing relationship with Jesus Christ. Welcome back to Hope in the Night. If you have questions about our topic tonight,

9:38I would like to order resources. Please reach out to our support team at 1-800-488-HOPE or just text the word support to 709-19. That team works during normal business hours and they can assist you in finding and purchasing materials from our vast library of over 100 topics. June was just reading from our keys for living book on depression. And that's our topic for tonight. And when we talk about a keys for living book, it's really just a study project that June did about over 100 different topics. And when you open up that book, it's usually between 40 and 60 pages long, so it's not a really thick book that you have to get through. There's usually a few stories describing somebody who's affected by the topic or by the condition that the topic is talking about. And then there's some Bible verses, some causes, some solutions, and just everything you need to have hope when you're dealing with whatever the topic is. June's taken all the work out of it,

10:43so you don't have to comb through the Bible for hours and hours. All the Bible verses pertinent to that topic are presented right inside the book. It's also a great resource to give to somebody. Maybe you're talking to somebody, a friend or a coworker, and they let you know that they're dealing with something and they really can't seem to get help. And you're maybe feeling, boy, I wish I could help them, but I just don't know how to. While by going to hope for the heart dot org and just clicking on store, maybe you can find one of our keys for living books on that very topic. Give it to them as a gift and just give them some hope after they read that. Let's get to tonight's caller, Joseph. Hello Joseph, welcome to hope. Hi June. Hi, how can we help you? Well, I'm not too sure where to start actually, but

11:46I'm coming up on one year sober from Corn and Master Beation. Thanks, the Lord for that. Great. Congratulations. That's really significant. Yeah, I spent the last 20 years addicted to it. And well, the poor news led to something called the furry fandom where there were these animal human creatures just having lots of sex. And the website said content that died into things like incest rape, or do homosexuality and beach reality. And over the course of time, it eventually led to beach reality porn, it led to me actually doing beach reality in real life with pets. Yeah, I gave the pets away and I haven't done anything since 2015.

12:52But just the, I think a lot of the masturbation and porn was asking a lot of other symptoms, other things in my life like emotions and things that I was trying to cover over to control. And well, I just, I wake up in the mornings now and I'm overwhelmed with facing the day. So when you're saying overwhelmed but facing the day, I'm hearing that you to a degree or quiet down, have you thought about harming yourself? That thought has crossed my mind a lot. But I power through it and I keep reminding myself that that is not what God intends for people to do. Hmm. Good for you. That's true. When you say God, what, how do you just write God?

14:05Well, there are two ways to answer that question. The first is what I know in my head and that's that God is a good God. He created the heavens and the earth and Jesus Christ is one and only son. He's good. He controls everything and he can make me well. The other part of me thinks that God's punishing me for something that I did in the past. Is it a specific something or is it just the general up? I'll say everybody has that list. The things you know you should get around to eventually, organizing the garage, updating important documents, taking care of long-term financial planning. Life insurance tends to live on that list for a lot of people, not because it isn't important, because people assume it's going to be complicated.

15:10That's why policy genius exists. Policy genius is an online insurance marketplace that helps you compare life insurance quotes from top insurers in one place for free. Their license team helps explain your options clearly, compare coverage amounts and prices, answer questions, and help you find a policy that fits your needs. No guesswork, no confusion, just clarity, and while they're helping with the shopping, you can get back to enjoying summer with the people who matter most. Policy genius has helped thousands of families find the right coverage and has earned thousands of five star reviews in the process, because some items on the to-do list are worth checking off. With policy genius, you can see if you can find 20-year life insurance policies starting at just $276 a year for $1 million in coverage. Head to policygenius.com to compare life insurance quotes from top companies and see how much you could save. That's policygenius.com.

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17:14I think the specific thing would be the, the born and the sexual related things. The interesting thing about the God of the Bible is he says, I've loved you with an everlasting love. Now that's Jeremiah 31-3. He says this knowing that all the while, all we like sheep have gone astray on quoting scripture. All have sinned. He knows that all of us would sin. And I think the point is the reason he devises a place called heaven for us.

18:24Joseph, it's not like anybody that only perfect people go there because there are no perfect people. And it's made clear in the Old Testament and the New Testament. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. So the fact that we have chosen wrong, whatever area. And we have. And it's not like we accidentally fell into a hole. Everyone has chosen to go against the revealed will of God. And we prioritize what we wanted to do at the time. And my point of saying this is after a while, things can get magnified. In other words,

19:32we can do something for a period of time. And we don't get the same. I'll say, I'm going to use the term excitement. When we continue or the same high, you can talk to anyone who's been on a drug of choice. There typically is a certain effect. And then after a period of time, it requires more of that same substance or switching to something else that will produce an increased high. And what I'm saying is God knows this. And I think of the thousands and hundreds of thousands of people who finally said,

20:38nope, I'm going to do this anymore. And changing. And you know this, I know this, to change a habit, it's different than just choosing one time to not do something. But we get into patterns. And that's what becomes an addiction. But every year there are thousands of people who, for example, they kick the habit of a drug of choice, whether it's alcohol, it could, I mean, there are all kinds of habit forming drugs. And that, but that's true of a bit behavior, like gambling. There are people who have taken their lives because they got into a

21:46habit of gambling. I just drove five, something like a wind star driving from Oklahoma City to Dallas. I was going for a friend's birthday party, a three year old birthday party. But the point is, and I thought, you know, I see this place, I'm advertised a lot in our area. And I think, isn't that interesting? I, I, and there were thousands of cars. And then, but I've done, we've done study on this. We have what we call keys. Keys for living on, um, gambling. And the numbers of people who get hooked into that high, that feeling, that rush, um, but then losing their homes, losing their cars,

22:53losing their lives, the suicides. And so what I'm saying is, there are all kinds of areas where we can get addicted to something that at the time provides a, a rush, a, we feel differently, it's a different feeling. And some people, they're, look, they don't like the way they felt, and they want to feel differently. Well, that's true, our material on sexual addiction. We, we describe situations, but it's the victories that God enables us to have. And that's, I'm going to just say, I thank you for calling because you can, any, any person can feel down, depression.

24:01You think of it, it's literally a press down heart. You put a, a hard, well, a big, uh, heavy iron on a heart-shaped pillow. And if it stays there for a long time, what would normally be like a foam pillow, it will lose its shape. And instead of bouncing back, it has a state of depression. And the good news is, there are all kinds of things that we get into and yet that doesn't dictate our future. And you have already experienced certain choices, you've made choices. And you said, you know, from 2015, you hadn't done certain things in the, from the past. Now, that's

25:05huge victory. I've, friend, I want you to think about this one phrase. Life is the series of choices. Life is a series of choices. Say that, say that phrase. Life is a series of choices. Yes. And we choose many times to get into things that we regret and then we can get out of them. And that is where we're going to go. Welcome back to Hope in the Night. If you're facing a problem who would like to be a guest on the program, please call 1-800-917 or text the word color to 709-19. Leave a message and we'll call you back

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27:10at 24 hours a day and we'll get a chip to you quickly. We want to continue with our caller, Joseph. Well, my friend, I appreciate you calling because there are many, many people who do not reach out when they want to have victory in their lives and yet you have had quite a past of pain. By the way, tell me about what it was like for you growing up and how it went. First, how old are you now, Joseph? Right now I'm 33. Okay. So that means you've got not just double the years for your future. This is important. You've got almost tripled the years of what would be typical for you

28:15as a man living in America. I'm just saying you've had a hard time. You've had a hard life so far. So tell me what it was like for you growing up. Well, things seemed to be okay until I turned about 10 years old and that was when my uncle was revealed and my uncle had been the resting my sister for like four years. Maybe even longer than that and that led to a trial and my mother went through an extreme form of depression. And my laughter after the trial got over with my cousin Rift the form between her and her family

29:22and then my dad decided that that was the time when he wanted to tell us siblings and my mom that he had been struggling with a porn addiction and that he had cheated on my mom. So I've had to an even bigger depression with my mom and I remember them arguing pretty frequently and I would try to kind of zone out when they did that. Most of the time I didn't have like pretty much didn't have any friends after that and and well there were always movies and cartoons to watch so I would do that. So it's like kind of escape.

30:23Yeah. And you didn't have any friends. Why do you think that was the case? Well, it could have been my personality. It could have been I was afraid of other kids actually. What you'd experienced as a boy with within your family to know that your uncle had been my resting your sister and here's a trial and this is this huge trauma. This is trauma. And that can shut down any kid. In fact, I didn't have those things but I was shut down because of

31:25bizarre things in my family. So I feel I can to a degree identify with not talking to friends. I had there were people but I didn't tell anybody anything. How do you explain things that are culturally unspeakable? Does that make sense what I'm saying? Yeah, it does. And I just found out this year that I had been in the same room when the molestation was occurring. I didn't know about that. No. Well, so in your family there was this at least a sexual addiction over here, sexual abuse there and

32:31then your dad. How did you handle that with your dad at the point? I remember when he told me about it. I remember I went into my room and I climbed into the upper bunk and I just cried. I think a rift must have formed then because as I got older I just made it up in my mind. I what didn't want to hurt anyone in the same way that my dad hurt my mom. And I didn't really know it at the time but now looking back on it I feel like my mom kind of turned me into sort of a make sort of a stand in for a psychiatrist or a psychologist because she was talking a lot about her family and what things that she went through as a kid. Well, she would tell stories about certain times her sisters didn't treat

33:35her well. So it's kind of like telling a lot of past adult things to you. I guess she probably thought of you as safe. But you know she had her own trauma she was dealing with. And you know a lot of people think back on their childhood and they go oh I had the most wonderful childhood. I can't even identify with that. And you can't either can you? Well I mean there are certainly good memories but I mean I wasn't raised in a bad home. There wasn't a lot of bad physical things that happened to me. It was my sister so I don't really understand why I have all this pinned up

34:41anger and part of me thinks it's because I didn't really want to move from the one house that we moved from but at the time I thought I would do whatever it takes for my mom to get better. If that meant moving and if that was the easier thing to do to not cause any or additional problems that's what I wanted to do. So you were into a degree trying to protect your mom. Yeah. Yeah. You know what that's called? That's called role reversal. It's like you at a very young age kind of became the parent because you wanted to be a safe person for your mom to talk to. And it's like that's a heavy burden for a child.

35:47Heavy burden for a child. So you've carried like the weight of the world on your shoulders for a period of time and it's the unknown and children don't have the choices that they later have in the Delta. And so I just I think the issue let's make it clear. You are right about God being a good God and he knows the plans he has for you. Number two you said that the other type of God that you see is like a punishing God. I'm going to ask Joseph has there been a time where you know you humbled your heart

36:52and you received Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior giving him control of your life? I Or maybe not. The first time I did that I was six years old that that was more out of fear from being cast into the lake of fire. Okay. That's called fire insurance. Wanting fire insurance which is not really receiving Jesus himself as your personal Lord and Savior. But I hear that. So has there you said that the first time that was that? Yeah and then the second time would have been in 2018 when I got rebaptized. So I think then that would have been it.

37:54But most recently with all everything that's going on I'm very scared that I haven't accepted him as my Lord and Master. So I boarded a Savior. So I pray that prayer whenever I'm afraid that I'd lost my salvation. Well, I'm going to give you some good news. Based on the authority of the Word of God. Romans 8 chapter 1 says there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. No condemnation means no condemnation. Now there are times when there are godly people who have chosen wrong after yielding their lives to Christ like David who got head and a fair with Bashiba.

39:02King David and the Bible says he was a man after God's own heart. And so the issue is I want you to think about this in regard to guilt. You can say Father thank you that you don't condemn me and you don't want me to condemn myself. I reject these feelings of false guilt because they are invalid. I have accepted Christ. Welcome back to Hope in the Night.

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41:10Well let's finish up the call now with Joseph. But Joseph I'm hearing that you want to be basically set free of that which in the past has it's like you're trapped in certain addictions and an addiction is challenging to overcome but it is absolutely doable and every year thousands of people overcome addictions. But I'm hearing that I'm going to share something with you. It's something called how to have a transformed life. And when depression leaves your heart feeling pressed down you have a choice.

42:10Everybody has that list. The things you know you should get around to eventually. Organizing the garage, updating important documents, taking care of long-term financial planning. Life insurance tends to live on that list for a lot of people. Not because it isn't important because people assume it's going to be complicated. That's why policy genius exists. Policy genius is an online insurance marketplace that helps you compare life insurance quotes from top insurers in one place for free. Their license team helps explain your options clearly. Compare coverage amounts and prices, answer questions and help you find a policy that fits your needs. No guesswork, no confusion, just clarity. And while they're helping with the shopping, you can get back to enjoying summer with the people who matter most. Policy genius has helped thousands of families find the right coverage and has earned thousands of five star reviews in the process because some items on the to-do list are worth checking off.

43:12With policy genius you can see if you can find 20-year life insurance policies starting at just $276 a year for $1 million in coverage. Head to policygenius.com to compare life insurance quotes from top companies and see how much you could save. That's policygenius.com. Are you noticing your car insurance rate creep up even without tickets or claims? You're not alone. That's why there's Jerry, your proactive insurance assistant. Jerry handles the legwork by comparing quotes side by side from over 50 top insurers so you can confidently hit buy. No spam calls, no hidden fees. Jerry even tracks rates and alerts you when it's best to shop. Drivers who save with Jerry can save over $1,300 a year. Don't settle for higher rates, download the Jerry app or visit jerry.ai slash wire today. Ryan Reynolds here from int mobile. I don't know if you knew this but anyone can get the same premium wireless for $15 a month plan that I've been enjoying. It's not just for celebrities so do like I did and have one of your

44:13assistance assistants switch you to mint mobile today. I'm told it's super easy to do at mintmobile.com slash switch upfront payment of $45 for three month plan equivalent to $15 per month required. Intro rate first three months only then full price plan options available. Taxes and fees extra feeful terms at mintmobile.com. Of literally finding the formula I'm thinking for freedom. It's a freedom formula and so okay sorry okay sorry I was hearing something else going on okay now I want you to imagine Joseph imagine like a target where there are rings. Did you ever shoot a gun or shoot a arrow facing a target okay well you know let's say that there are these three rings and in the

45:20middle there's this black large area that's what we're going to call transformation and and I'm going to share with you something that I think is so right for you I wasn't going to do that this earlier and and I thought no this is I think this is for my friend Joseph okay and there's this freedom formula that years ago I worked up it's if you have a new purpose and a new priority and a new plan that enabled the formula for you to then have a transform life now I'm going to explain it this way let's say the outer ring of that target is a new purpose now in the past whatever a person is addicted to let's say it's gambling and I'm

46:26going to shoot and I'm choosing that just because there are many who lose their lives because of gambling this addiction but and you can apply this to anything where you were addicted before but until you've got to have a new purpose instead of getting the high off of whatever you have had as an addictive activity now God's it's God's purpose for me is to be and this is the highest purpose of all to be conformed to the character of Christ so I want you to say after me I'll do whatever it takes to be conformed to the character of Christ let me let me ask you is that is that something you would like to have for your life oh yes okay great okay I want you to say that I'll do whatever it

47:30takes do whatever it takes to be conformed to the character of Christ be conformed to the image of Christ yes say it again I'll do whatever it takes to be conformed to the image of Christ great now the Bible says this is based on scripture this is Romans 829 that we are predestined this is amazing this is that God this is God's highest purpose for you and for me uh for every person it would be God predestined he's determined how he is going to do this he predestined us to be conformed to the image of his son so God's purpose is to be conformed to the character of Christ that is the outer ring of that target then the middle ring

48:34is not just a new purpose but a new priority well God's priority for you and me is to change our thinking and so this is based on by the way Romans 122 do not conform to the pattern of this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind so what do you do well this is your part I'll do whatever it takes to line up my thinking with God's thinking is that what you would want yes it is oh fantastic okay say that then after me I'll do whatever it takes I'll do whatever it takes to line up my thinking with God's thinking line up my thinking with God's thinking excellent say it again I'll do whatever it takes I'll do whatever it takes

49:38the line up my thinking with God's thinking perfect okay that's that middle ring then the inner ring is a new plan and God's plan is that we rely on Christ's strength not our strength to be what he created us to be in other words the Bible says I can do all things not just all things I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me Philippians 413 and the point of that is it's not my strength it's not your strength was Jesus all powerful when he was on earth so are you aware that when and I never will forget when I read the scripture it's Christ in you the hope

50:44of glory I thought I remember I was very new to the Bible didn't know anything really about the Bible and I read Christ in you the hope of glory I what do you mean Christ in you well we receive him as our Lord and Savior which you mentioned earlier and as such he has supernatural strength that I don't have and that you don't have but he does have that so I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength and that is for you so your part is I'll do whatever it takes to fulfill his plan in his strength is that your desire oh yeah okay all right I want you to say that after me I'll do whatever it takes I'll do whatever it takes to fulfill his plan in his strength his plan in his strength

51:56strength right so what that means is when you are feeling oh by the way you put these three together a new purpose not the old purpose of doing whatever feels good at the moment because it ultimately doesn't feel good when it's not right in God's side so you have a new purpose I'll do whatever it takes to be conformed to the character of Christ new priority I'll do whatever it takes to line up my thinking with God's thinking and then a new plan is I'll do whatever it takes to fulfill his plan and his strength and what that means is that will give you a transformed life and I can hear

52:56you're you know the things that don't work there's huge advantage I know this is going to be a strange there are advantages of making wrong choices because you find out they don't work you're eliminating the things that are not going to give you the peace you want does that make sense okay so I'm thinking I'm going to send you something on depression because so much of what you will read these are called our keys key keys unlocked doors and at times we're stuck because there's we're locked into a pattern but we can that pattern can change and we can

54:01affect the change in the strength of Christ it sounds like you are understanding and getting what I'm saying yeah I am I know it in my head but it's hard to actually feel it okay well I'm the what I've described to you this model of transformation basically isn't almost all of our keys but this this one will be in the keys on depression and I want you to go through you'll you'll see what to do physically you'll see what to do in the area of your soul but see we are three parts three parts of person is body soul the soul is the mind will and emotions and the third is spirit so we we

55:09approach it from those five different ways the body the mind this is the soul of mind will and emotions and then the last is spiritually and if you'd like for us to talk again about applying all this I hear that you're getting the the basic part of the plan but if you would you like for us to talk again okay we will work that out I like you I I my hearts with you I grew up with bizarre you grew up with bizarre and it wasn't good but you have a whole future almost two thirds of your life yet to live it's good

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