Golf Debates and Listener Polls - Part 1!

0:00Oh, Triction on some mountain The latest, huh, the latest Got em, got em, get it Got em, got em, get it The latest, huh, the latest, huh Focus on the check, yeah Yeah, all I want is let it, yeah Let us heads we are back with another edition of please let us golf the podcast tonight you got Goldie golfburg and Adam and I know you're sad you're missing jewel starting off the pod complaining about being tired For having kids is if the other three of us don't you probably down. It's just it's his world and he's got to get some shut eye but Mr. Golfburg Adam how are we doing this evening? I was I was gonna say shots fired But honestly I would I thought you were gonna say is hey golfburg you haven't been here in a while what's going on? And I was gonna say I'm just so tired man

1:01I just think my kids are bad Yeah It's taking a month now, but you So we just doubled up on jewel. Sorry jewel So you so you got that loaded in the chain I had that loaded and I still want that bad, you know Yeah, that's that's really that's good commitment. He's like I was going to say this. I'm still going I'm gonna do it though How are we doing Doing good. I'm not tired. I've got lots of energy lots of takes lots of takes Well, you don't care about energy because we're breaking the fourth wall early guys I want to do a little business recap. So one if you haven't done so yet make sure you go check out last week's pod We have our travel golf review episode of warm-out sands the newest muni golf course in the southeastern United States Really cool property happy to support it. We also have an 18 hole YouTube video where Adam and myself take on alternate shot at Warm-out sands par 70 super target oriented golf pretty fun watch go check it out

2:02But more so more pressing to this group here the plug crew is gonna be heading out to California in a week And we're gonna be playing a lot of golf a lot of stuff's coming out of that podcast videos So we're trying to buffer in a little bit of time you know on the schedule front and what are we doing today? I'm fired up because for the entire summer, you know fall is here now We've been doing social media polls. We've been either asking for inputs or sit putting out some you know fiery debate questions Some of these are viral things that you may have seen in the Twitter's Twitter sphere or what was I gonna say the water what was the water sphere? Sorry, it's a tour. It's late here guys We're going late Got to bring the energy but and then the other polls these are homegrown ones for us So we're gonna go through them. I am the arbiter of all information I'm gonna tee up the polls to mr. Golffurn and Adam. They don't know the results They know what most of the polls were they do check out the program they are on it But we're gonna get their insights that we're gonna get the lettuce heads responses

3:04We got some shout outs because some of you did write in as you said the polls not good enough I want my sentence We're gonna state some sentences But gentlemen was that enough primer to just jump into this? Are we good is the energy there because it's not that we're gonna need it? Oh, I guess I should have said we got so many polls We're gonna split this into two episodes. So we got like 12 polls probably gonna go six and six This is episode one. I'm overwhelmed by your planning It's just crazy the way your brain works, but you know, that's why we're doing so well. So thank you Lots of polls Lots of polls. It's 12 polls 12 polls. You remember at the beginning of the summer He's like this summer. This is what I'm gonna do any launch I'm gonna do he's been tracking it for months and some of them don't aren't that good But these ones are hot and guess what we're starting off the first two I'm gonna tease out the first two the first one was our most Responded to poll of wild time and the second one was our most Submissions of all time so not just clicking the button people actually sending DMs of like here's a longer

4:09Thought than a one word answer. So number one Fresh hot off the presses you guys didn't even see this one because it was in the last 48 hours nervous You nervous now, but I threw out a poll so the news broke You know about 48 hours ago so in this post maybe a week ago two weeks ago Phil Mikkelson went into rehab for What was it someone helped me a phone a friend Phil Mikkelson went into rehab for family trauma and addiction On top of all the stories this year of some alleged sexual misconduct maybe some affairs Allegations I should say for legal purposes and then everything with live in the Saudis and then we have Tiger Woods who has his own Issues of propensity of flipping cars and issues with addiction and games are just throughout there Who are you more disappointed in Tiger? Phil or equal so what I want from you guys is an answer then I want to give you the poll results and then we can debate

5:15Adam you look ready I Almost said Adam go first, but I was like, you know, I'm being so scripted tonight Maybe someone will just jump in so your answers Tiger you're more disappointed Tiger mr. Golf for your answer I think I'm more disappointed in Phil Okay, so drumroll please shoot every we should have had Tyler. We're gonna have 12 drum rolls The most responded to poll tiger and Phil are clearly still the needle Phil Mikkelson came in that 39% Equal at 34% and tiger at 27% so pretty even distribution, but Phil Still had the tick as more disappointed, but Adam I do want to kick back to you. So your answer was tiger That's correct why He's the goat I don't know like I know Tiger you didn't have the best up-bring so you know, maybe some of this is like expected like this downfall but

6:15like Phil We've kind of known like feels like a dirt bag right and so it's like this It's not really unexpected with Phil with tiger Everything was kind of like very shocking the way it unfolded So I felt much more disappointed in tiger because it just it was much more out of left feel where Phil it's like Yeah, it kind of checks out actually at what point were you surprised by tiger was it oh nine or was it 2013 or was it 2017 or was it 2021 or was it 2026 What point was it were tiger to solve the sudden like God this guy's a hero but ah he keeps disappointing me because I I actually think it's the opposite I get that Phil I always had a gambling problem, but I did not see all of this coming with though I thought he was a family man he had the cute thing going. I know his wife was some boy spent sick a while Is it the kids you know he was such a lovable big guy for a while and then all of a sudden like you know before GLP Ones we had coffee all you had to do is drink in saying amounts of coffee like building you could lose weight and he did develop

7:21He was somewhere in all black and just some crazy hats and he definitely got a little nuts, but I truly didn't see it come And like he's the legend and he should have just been able to coast into this like Post golf career and you know been an announcer or something and then all of a sudden live fucked him It just came too much cash, but tiger. He's been a mess forever Since I was about 28 years old. He's been a mess guys This is you know and 34% of the lettuce head said equal and I threw it out there just to see who's a fence sitter But I do think it's a pretty reasonable answer, but my my take is even though I asked the question I get to do a 180 is I think but I think I would say tiger is more sad and Phil is more disappointing tiger. It's like more sad because of the decade and a half of stuff and the fact that we've essentially lost the second half of the career of the greatest of all time

8:23And we got one little teaser in 2018 and 19 of what could have been so it's just like Continual sadness where Phil is more like disappointment because he didn't need to do any of this stuff, right like Look outside of the addiction and all that like he brought a lot of this on to himself like I just I don't know disappointed in Sir Phil and then just sad about tiger, but I mean I mean The way golfer laid it out the time and time again. I think that's where the disappointment and all comes in It's like it keeps happening and it's like it's just disappointment all over again But it's sad because like it was injury after injury and he clearly has had But the first injury was a golf club to his windshield and That's a Dementic Dispia. I'm past that one, but all the injuries and it was clear when you would come back You'd be so puffy and you're like this guy's loaded up with everything But then he would play good for two weeks and we're like we don't care

9:26But eventually after you flip three cars and you're a danger to society There needs to be a reckoning so we can't give tiger the past just because he's the goat so all right guys That's a good that's a good one to get us started. Hey, you got a sense just a good question. Pretty much Is Jack Nicholson the goat is Jack Nicholson the goat or Jack Nichol? Oh my god Oh my god, I'm actually talking about movies. Yeah, okay Yeah, oh, wait, I see who's the best question is Jack Nicholson the goat? No, who is the best Joker that might be the next poll I do Mm-hmm. He probably has the best career you could say I mean tiger still has the wins thing and the good not tigers go stop Okay, Jack Nicholson's not sorry. That's not just in it. China town was pretty good though Somebody's gonna laugh at that somebody is All right guys, we're going on to number two. So this one was Okay, we're going on to number two actually lied so I moved my polls around so this is the

10:28The most responded to of DMs is gonna be the third one So you're gonna have to wait one more poll, but this was a fun one actually think this is my favorite question We asked because we debate this and we never have come to a conclusion Mr. Golfberg how many times do you go man? You just play so much golf So I asked the lettuce heads. What do you consider playing quote a lot of golf? I put it out there two times a month One time a week two times a week or three plus times a week so Mr. Golfberg would of those four what's your answer before we debate it? Can I caveat really quick? What can we please define what is golf? Because this is around 18 hole okay, so we're just very clear about that around them golf Playing too much would be Two and a half over two and a half Three so you're so you're saying a lot would be two times a week or three time three But two would be a dream. I guess that's a lot it feels right three

11:30I was like a lot for sure Okay, three feels like a lot at this point and consider a lot of golf Oh, man, but let me clear if this is interpretation so a lot you took it from the perspective like how much would it be before it's bad like too much But I think most people interpret it of like oh that guy plays a lot of golf. What does that mean Adam? Two times a month one time a week two times a week or three plus times a week you know I'm a data guy myself and I kind of put my professor Goldie hat on here and I started thinking through it Okay, so if you started playing golf at age 25 Let's say average lifespan is 75 so that's 50 years of playing golf right all right Do you play once a week for 50 years straight? You have spent one over just over a year of your entire life Playing golf just not nearly enough

12:32Okay, that's where I'm going so if you play two times a week, okay, you will have spent two and a half years of that lifespan playing golf It's good. I'm we're getting there. I think that's that's a good bit right okay? Let's just jump to let's Like five to ten years If you play five all right, let's let's go there he played five times a week six years That sounds over that that's a lot right that sounds pretty cool. I feel like that's a lot That's like like 12 14% of that 50 year lifespan playing golf. That's pretty sick. Hell yeah brother No, granted Okay, so that being said what's your answer? Sometimes a month one time a week two times a week or three plus times a week I'm gonna go to two times a week on two yep two times a week so Let me just say the letter says two times a month only came in at one percent of the vote good one time a week

13:38Which I got a comment on that came in at 14 percent Two times that week came in at 35 percent Three plus times a week was 50 percent of the vote so our lettuce heads think you're playing a lot of golf if you're playing three rounds of golf a week So I just want to I just want to say I get accused from Mr. Golfburg of you just get to play so much golf I I play once a week as you as my means my average tick according to the lettuce heads I'm in category three of four of the potentials of being classified as playing a lot of golf. Get it It's all relative. I feel like three is a lot a lot of this is seasonal too Some people are like even if I can only golf for six months out of the year It's still once a week feels good. So you just get to golf all year round Relatively good conditions and that's more than Adam's let's be transparent Adam's math was based off of Southeast bias to where we go off And I know you golf more than once a week I know I play 18 holes

14:41This year I'll be curious where 26 ends up I'll probably end up north of 52 rounds just because of some of our golf trips, but it'll probably be right around I would say 60 to 65 so it'll net out at like 1.1 1.2 rounds per seven days Okay, which I think you're for a Justin Yeah, so I can meet you 1.1% of the way, but I was surprised that I thought because you never know with the golf audience like a lot of guys like Adam He doesn't golf a ton so I thought a lot of people and maybe like dude you're golfing once a week That's a well, we know a lot of a lot of wives would agree that's a lot of golf That's it. We need to redo this poll everyone who answered Female audience. Thank you if you have a husband ask them But we need you to ask your wife what do they consider actually film it Tag us let's go viral collectively, but make sure you give us the tag And that's all that really man. I think it's more interesting is the idea of like what is golfing though because of the other day for example

15:44You know I'm running around and working all day I got to pick up the kid from practice and I snuck out to the range and you know the putting green for an hour and then later on My wife is like oh, but you got to go golfing today and I'm like that wasn't golfing What the hell would that's not golfing that is a golfing and you know There's special golf which could take a whole day and then there's normal golf, you know And then there's like practicing and I just being accused of golfing when you didn't get to play a real round of golf is like infuriating That's like for somebody's it's like someone accusing you of lying and you're like no this time I'm seriously not lying. You can't prove it. Yeah, it's it's a tough one. I can prove it. I was there an hour I don't like this question. Okay, it's like just whatever stage of life you are that the the answer changes if if I'm Retired at 60 like three times a week is probably normal pop G golf six days a week. That's a fact Yeah, he's he's pumping. I don't even have the algorithm for that. I don't even know what six times a week is That's crazy. I don't even know. Yeah, that's where the map cut off. That's just your life

16:46All right guys, that was a fun another fun one. Are you guys ready for our most submissions? I can't read them all and honestly On the vent diagram. There's a lot of overlap on people's thoughts But guys we've dedicated a podcast episode to this But we didn't throw it out to the lettuce heads and now we did and we got a couple submissions that I think are Worthy of talking about one specifically, but what's the question? What is the one thing you would do to fix Pace of play in the public golf scene and we received a ton of DM responses, so I do want to read a couple of them to you Some of these are just not well thought out, but I'm gonna read them as they came in because we love you guys And I don't want a paraphrase for you. So average Joseph our buddy, Manny loves us. He said make courses Walkable and incentivize it and I'm starting with that because you'd be surprised We had about six other inputs that said Make people walk and that's gonna fix pace of play don't want to nest

17:50Think just keep down the back of the head Don't know how practical that is in America. I do see how walking can Assist with some of the stop and go, but trying to weed out the fatties I'm not sure anyone be on the course We made that way That's how we like P hexa no fatties. No, what else has rest of the go all of those Let's not get a last week's episode by the way did get flagged and I couldn't get it on flag Just because I went on my rant on something so anyways not two weeks ago now, but all right, so our buddy Tee Ge I would say Tee Ge is a TG or Tee Ge it's Tee Ge E E air in the new correct me. It's Tee Ge or Tee Ge but he's great. Oh, thanks Texas guy's always engaged. He said you just got to have more marshals on the course Especially these courses blinded. I just got one to marshals more Of course He wants that he wants to open carry yeah, the on the on the go on the plan slow to shoot him We had some stuff about T time increments like minimum 10 minutes all that kind of stuff more stuff on rangers

18:54I should have started with this our guy. I think I wrote it out here now that'll be another one, but One of our got per DM 67 He's got another great input on another one. He he's been listening to us since we did band and stuff and He's just a direct communicator this guy's a caddy at a northeastern private club. I don't want to dock some. I'll just say that I was like dude this guy the maximum asshole and he's not he's the best He just but he just tells you one line is like this is my thought on everything move on But he just said watch where your ball goes This is a caddy so like nobody's paying attention and then they get up there. They don't know where the fucking balls at So I like that. That's simple. We had this one from you know ironically. I have to tell Adam Hey happy birthday. It's his birthday today. I don't know when this is getting released I always have to tell him to track his ball So maybe that's wait just for Not this Adam your your other The other vocal yes, oh gee let us head out. I was always you're my Adam too. Adam. Okay. Yeah

19:59You always gotta tell him keep your eye like where's it going? We had a couple shrink the game comments that came in had multiple Golf license you guys hit the nail on the head. We got to have a golf license There should be an aptitude test or an etiquette test a lot of stuff came in on that Then we had some triple bogey max all that but my favorite one came in Because we have golf carts. We don't walk at our local course for the most part Just said from friend of the program Phil you guys know Phil yeah, he came in directly and said Simple fix whatever the pace of play is at the course you set it on the golf cart And when that time elapses the golf cart automatically comes back to the clubhouse like the technology exists It's just if it's four hours and you're on the 16th hole Things coming back to the clubhouse and I was like there are some issues with that But that was like my favorite one that we got I love where he's going with that

20:59But like what happens if you're stuck behind Yeah, that's really slow like you can't do anything about it Yeah, I mean there's got to be some way to legislate like who's the offender on it But I do like the idea of like markers in the round like you got to hit this marker if you miss a marker Like maybe it comes back then like you got little what I start I was I was I just love the idea though No, you're just hitting a shot into 16 all send your cards. Well you run you grab your bag pull it off I kind of had a Sim I mean down I went down the same path, but my idea was like if you're the offender Like we got to use AI somehow and like calculate like just how like brutal You were behind pace and then at the end of the round you get charged like if you were 30 minutes over It's like there's a rate that you get charged extra for how like far over you were like this is a perfect example of how we'll be using AI to Prove solve problems that do not need to be solved such a waste of time

22:00But if we had giant data centers in every neighborhood we could figure this out yeah, we could definitely good This is an issue The woods but it is it yeah, Mr. Prime here where there's like you know 300 rounds a day Yeah, you got to pay to get out of that mess. It's simple as it sounds like if you just enforce it But then you go into like tell someone else's fault. Yeah, I mean it's here's the thing It here the thing is it's really easy to get around on a golf cart in four hours On almost every golf cart in America I Just think my my solution is way more cheating for bad golf I assume it's bad golf for slow and a sound I think the better you are golf the more allowance you should have you know if you're shooting if it only takes you 72 strokes to get around You can take a little more time per stroke and someone shooting 110 But it's like just move shit along like you looked it hit over there just drop one like you don't you don't get to just be Searching and then with triple bogey after triple bogey. It's just cheat here. You're not good enough to play by all the rules

23:02I spent I think honestly the the easiest solution Just we got to play ready golf. Okay, we got to enforce that you got to play ready golf I mean that I think that solves a decent bit of it and it's very easy, right? So yeah, it adds up over time. I mean if you waste I know I think that is one of the biggest issues is not playing ready golf like people just Yeah, they didn't have one golf cart they drive into the middle of the fairway Yeah, you guys walk a hundred yards in the other direction treat it more like the range We're even if someone hits while you're hitting it's not that big of a deal and you'll probably have more relaxing rounds You're right. That would work just everyone play just go play don't hit don't say a word to anyone you're playing with Just go just go play your ball Now I think it's just you gotta just lock in on like there needs to be fucking Expectations before you tee off like this whole starter being a dick. I mean like we check in the pro shop It's just like guys you're in the morning wave of like a public golf course

24:05You got to be pass the fourth hole at this time and if you're not You're gonna have someone on your ass until you are or you're gonna be off the golf But also that golf just kind of sucks man. It's like spread out the t times to Yeah, give us 15 minutes. It's public golf so probably then you get into the issue of no one's got to pay or people It's got to be affordable. This and all that but anyways, so we dedicated a whole episode on full thoughts on this But I thought it was interesting. You know how to solve pace of play guys. You know how to do it. Yeah, it's a look in the mirror How about that take out a second mortgage on your home and go get that membership you've been thinking about Now that's the best feedback we can give you Tyler clip that we will publicly say How much we support public golf and privately will tell you You need to go be plan private golf Maybe it's motorcycles, you know Maybe a lasonia had it right just jump on a motorcycle that solves it

25:08Okay Um, okay onto the next one guys making good good time. That's what this podcast is about efficiency. Oh, yeah We are making good time All right, so what is the best two-man team golf format? Let me just wasn't very inspiring for me. I want to be honest But there's something we just had the president's cop people are playing in their tournaments member guests member member season. So we have the scramble the Best ball the alternate shot in the shambles So if you're not initiated the shambles were two guys Hit the t-shot you choose the best t-shot But then you both play out your ball from there. So Adam what's the best format? I Will die on this hill the only true team golf that there is is all shot Okay, just like all the other sports. There's one ball out there you and your teammate playing one ball

26:14All the other formats best ball shambles scramble all this we got multiple balls out there. Yeah, it's not team golf All shot baby. Thank you, right? I miss your mr. Golfburg. I think you're right from a tournament Integrity standpoint, but the only golf I want to play probably is a scramble Because then you at least you're hitting all the shots you're going as low as you possibly can because you're playing kind of fake golf anyway Right, okay more than a shamble because you have to yeah, right? It's always like best shot best shot try to make birdies all day I really understood the shambles some places will do like nine whole shambles and I was like Just do the scramble. That's just scrambled up kind of got some surprise that neither of you I understand the integrity of all shots my favorite team golf format to watch But as a selfish American best ball I mean, you're still play you got a teammate But you're playing your own ball and you so you got like the chance that glory at a score still and

27:15I don't know if it feels more like you're playing real golf Wow, too, but okay, let me tell you that's the point. It's not seems like Okay, you're playing next to somebody and like there's four matters, but let's let's hold it for a second Results drumroll please don't make me do a hit Coming in at 4% the shambles, so it kind of need to maybe audit who is in that 4% to say like Let's have a conversation Coming in at 3rd at 22% the scramble Coming in at 2nd at 33% alternate shot and the number one was best ball at 42% And I think that goes into the golfer psyche. They just like the idea of like Playing their ball and playing in a tournament, but it's a little less stressful because if If you were going to take a 10 on a hole you can pick up because you got a partner Wow, you got the worst versions Really, yeah, I'm just loving about it I think best balls my favorite tournaments to play in I just should have to say

28:16It gives you a little bit of that dopamine hit and that heart race of the best balls what we're doing every time we play And whoever has the best ball gets to brag the most probably wins a little more money It's just it's just normal golf Yeah, I know, but like birdies seem to matter and it's just cool, but okay, okay, so alternate shot and what sucks is Place clubs won't do alternate shot events because Players want to play Their own ball and we're trying to do some alternate shot in our videos to show alternate shots the most fun Now I will say this to another kind of talking out of both sides of our mouth If you were in that category of golfer that played a lot of golf like I got a lot of local guys here that three times a week is like a minimum guarantee I Would love to dick around and do some more fun alternative formats or like go out and do an all shot event I think it is the guys that play though like a handful times a month or once a week. It's like well. I'm gearing up my game To go have a moment go post to the score and as fun as it would be for me and Adam or me and mr. Golfbird to go do all shot versus you guys

29:24I kind of want to get my money's worth here and my time worth of Hitting every golf shot. So that's the hard sell. Yeah, bring it some individual motivation to a team event I you're not wrong. We were just trying to stay in the spirit of team golf. I think Adam and I were yeah, so yeah Take the question to heart. Yeah, I'm a stand for I don't like the two man scramble. I'll be honest with you I just I used to but I don't get I don't get fulfilled I don't know what it is. Oh, it's not fulfilling. Oh, I mean because it's a It's a sham You know, it's funny in the poll. I called it a scramble because we've dubbed it that that should trade marks. So if you use that listener you owe us money every time you do it But it was an accident. It was just total Ironic moment there. What's that called a Freudian slip? Oh, yeah, that's like the four man scramble is the worst thing. Yeah on earth Yeah, the two man with someone who's equal kind of you know quality

30:26Do as a player like it can get interesting, you know it can yeah, it's it can get Interresting yeah All right Okay, this one guys. I know this is gonna. I did this on a plane and if you guys you've been listening to this podcast I don't love flying Take a little go to sleep pill woke up on this flight and I was in the Utah mountains So and I was looking at mountains and for some reason I said he just hit me. I posted it in that moment What's worse Showing up to a course and it's cart path only or finding out the greens were punched two weeks ago A little bonus how long after punching a green as a fun again But let's go with the first portion of that guys what's worse showing up to a course Carpath only or finding out the greens were punched two weeks ago. I assume yeah, I assume this one's like 9010 Greens being punched 90 Carpath only and carpet only does suck can throw you off your flow off your game a little bit, but right punch screens

31:28It's like what are we doing here? Yep, so Adam You know, I think it's important to know that you said if you show up to the course and find out that the green punched I think that's a that's on the course, okay? We've got to be getting it out through email Notification that the greens were punched okay. That's a big deal right there. Yeah, okay I'm going with that the greens being punched is is the bigger deal is the bigger deal Well surprisingly little it's before we get into our thoughts on it It was 63 percent greens punched 37 percent though carpath only so you know back to I you look I love pulling back the old stuff here, you know our buddy average Joseph Trying to get people to walk these guys won't even play if it's carpath only let alone walking the course so But yeah, I was surprised I thought it would be a little more lopsided, but it hit me I was like, you know Because and I said two weeks out right like what is that line? And that was kind of the second half of the question of

32:31At what point after a punch is like okay, this is not That big of a deal you're rationalizing. There's no excuse for that number to be that high on the uh It shouldn't be that high It's uh, I mean maybe 15 percent Yeah, but our last is a real golfer's they like to I don't Carpathal a lot of them don't is kind of course the course if if it's a course that's that's a walkable course I don't mind it and it's like, you know It's much much easier to to walk it at that point if it's carpath only so right But if you get to one of these big boy courses and you're expecting the a cart and you got a walk And inevitably you start kind of taking on different shop patterns and are trying to hit it a little closer to the carpath and that can throw your game off too Just trying to get that the lazy route Uh, the worst though, man. Let's say I'm the guy though if I'm gonna do it and I really don't I'll bring in the bag

33:33To my ball like if it's like if it's more than a potential of like Two clubs you didn't know you did that wolf Creek hole number one didn't you? Yes, you You need it uh, I'm not gonna make a bad decision um But okay, so let's maybe not the most fun question, but surprise it was tighter than it was But okay guys, but how long after greens are air at a greens punch is it fun? Do you like like Air and somebody goes hey the club punched the greens at what point do you like I'm gonna go play and not lose my mind out there Only if you have to golf. It's like there's no other option I guess, but you want to wait till they're fully healed. It's it's really not fun for me. I don't like it Our courses you they tried to sell us on like the micro Needling and it's a great puddle surface within a week and Like again, no, it's not like it's it takes to me four weeks is usually the mark to where you can go put

34:34They're gonna be slow You're gonna it chipping is actually the low key hardest part definitely because you know you knew chip on it and you hit a depression and your ball just yeah Stopps or ricochets that happens for like four or five weeks after greens or punch um But usually by six weeks you can get a good roll on it and that's sad, but it's uh one cool one cool thing about the climate up here Is it within two weeks they're back to normal for sure oh well yeah, he was fast out here. You so there's a lot of rain Are you telling me Your back yard if anybody was a physics cease to exist in the P and W are you telling me Errations and your kitchen are faster than anywhere else in the country. Sorry, Adam. We're doing a my cousin Vinnie Oh, well, right fast. How do you like your grits? uh Regular instant or I'll then think I guess I'm a fast cook I guess cook I guess oh So good Eric can you talk real quick and make sure Mike just didn't get unplugged. Yeah, just say say hello. I'm a fast cook

35:36Okay, there you go. They're good. You're good. You're good Just keep saying that saying but the whole store of the flu does that what happened? Uh greatest I say great It's like a top 10 comedy for me. Oh easy. Um, all right guys. So Adam. Okay, but how long after punch greens? Do you care? I think they're playable after about two weeks you go into it knowing like it's gonna be a little bumpy I feel feel like about the month mark is when Usually they're much better. I just hate the idea of like I might not be able to make puts today and it's not my fault like it's hard enough as is so whatever um All right guys, so uh to round out I do have a bonus one if we need it to but I think this is good enough To round out this one's a little more controversial than you'd think I we play a lot of golf and I start thinking through Like we talk about maintaining golf courses and where can a golf course cut some corners?

36:40That isn't as big of a deal to maintain and one thing I've noticed especially in public golf That's one thing I really liked about warm out sands you go watch your video. It's simple There's three sets of tees Uh, but we go to these courses and they feel obligated to have five six eight sets of tees and they brag about it And then you see all these teeing areas that they're maintained and they're maintained to shit and they're on side slopes And they don't make sense. So I asked the question how many sets of tees should a golf course have I put it out there. We're talking total tees right like including women's and yeah total. Yes, they they We do now include them in the couch. Okay, Adam. So uh send hate mail to I was just gave out your real gmail account there um Yes, I mean when you're saying it's outrageous for a course have five sets of tees. It doesn't seem like We'll look like the women and then you know, I'm gonna see where we knit out I said zero so the no kind of formal t marker concept that's might be

37:40Weird for some and then I didn't even do one or two because that doesn't exist Three to four five to six or as many as possible. So Where do you guys Net out on what do you think an appropriate amount of tees are Adam? I want to go back to you. You seem pretty passionate How wrong I was in my thoughts. So well I said five You said did you said five didn't sound unreasonable? Well My process was I feel like For the men's tees like three tees. That's all you need Okay, brought middle back and then the women's have like two tees, but like Maybe the the furthest up is like a kid's kid slash women's tea. Okay, so five So you're in the five to six. I get it. So you just you just I just wanted to just get back to okay I'm good with this a fine answer So mr. Golfberg uh this seems like something you might genuinely not care at all about For sure, you know good instincts, but what I was trying to come up with an answer what I remember is the most fun

38:43I've ever had golfing as a ballad and you know And they have an interesting way of doing t-boxes, but it all starts with the designer He knew what he was doing and he would set up these different looks So if you went to a different t-box to different angle different banks You can play it off of them. It's a golf course fun and dynamic I guess if you could design any golf hole where you could give it three different looks and then play him that way That's awesome if it's all just about length Who gives a shit? There should be a shitty golfer decent golfer good golfer And then the maniacs can go tee off in the rough behind that. I just want to state that I gave the women two teas Okay, you guys did hear that I don't like to define it by men and women. I just think that it's more of a skill level thing Um, yeah, there's red teas on every single course We're trying to us we're trying to change the paradigm, you know We were trying to break down Um, okay, so guys let's get into the data So coming in at last was zero the nor the no formal team marker concept

39:444% coming in at second as many as possible at 9% so 9% of golfers just want to get to a course and they go You know what I like I like having 10 Teen options just because that day if I don't want to play 6500 yards and 66 50 sounds better I want that ability let's pause here for second room. Okay. Well that part three course we played Where you could just go up the chain up the I genuinely did not like that I don't like this idea that like here's a 70 yards Go wherever you want like that's bullshit like yeah, I don't like find areas to go to You need to find areas, but they don't necessarily have to be defined sets of teas like you could choose They were to find there was a chain a back chain and a and a front chain Oh, they look they were Defined yeah, that's all yeah, I get it. So okay, so third was 20% at five to six But then 68% of golfers said three to four, but now after I was surprised I thought five to six would be the obvious answer, but I think a lot of them

40:47Are showvinistic pigs like Adam and they were probably like well women's teas. We wouldn't count in this right So it's just the men's tea. I gave him two you gave at the end once we told you had to include them uh, I think The the real I think for for a public off course probably makes overall The most sense, but I kind of like where Aaron was going. It's just like here's an uptie if you're a beginner golfer a junior Or an average lady you're probably gonna play those here's a middle tea maybe you're an advanced lady in advanced junior or you're not as good of male adult Or a senior by the way like yeah, it's where you're at or you can go up if you're a less capable senior And then you have the one in the back and I think like this whole obsession with um You know, it's like even you'll hear some of our criticism of warm out sands and one of them was just more of like Hey guys, don't be worried that your golf course isn't super long like The the challenges plentiful there as a part seven and I think some of these courses get obsessed with

41:51What is the length? What's the usga rating gonna be and it's like well, you us cheated It's all bullshit anywhere, and you hear guys actually talking about like next year. I actually get to move up a tee Hey, you know, and you're just like you know, you could go do that now if you want it Yeah, if you really want it to do whatever you want Like it'll be above board next year though. What are you talking about? Are the teas that you play not just based off of average driving distance? I mean, there's that. I mean, I guess you could get into the issue of it's not a perfect I just Doesn't pass that never made sense to me because then it's like average driving distance means Everyone's gonna hit from a different team. We're all gonna be 150 yards out in one shot to a par four and now it's like we're all equal players Yeah, that's even better. I love that But that's kind of I mean that's all you're doing with a t-box I mean you do want all the balls to be in a General area. I mean from like a I think a golf architecture

42:52Yeah, I mean NERNER You're gonna strategic standpoint you want to do one thing t-box pull Let me get this for clickbait T-box proliferation is just out of control. It's like you know I'm kind of getting in to the mode of agreeing with the camp of we should have less than 14 clubs Of like we just have too money too many options like how about you just go play the golf course and it's like These are the teases to play the golf course and again like here's your two the team options up front I said I love the guys at my home club, but I was like we have all these Grotesque team areas that won't wine 50 or 70 yards and they're half unkempt and they don't make any sense like it's a par four I don't need 150 yards of team areas to maintain. It's like just pick A couple actually put some fertilizer on them making pretty in plush and let's move on So yeah, I don't know man. That's one. This is more personal with me

43:53Um, this is your best events Anything else on teased I extended that one out. I was really really wanting to get to the 45 minute mark and we're at the 44 minute and 10 second mark So guys I'm putting you on the spot. I need 50 seconds of content somebody's listening right now And they're like I'm gonna kill the shot. No, I just say like Yes, but go by after the torture of watching Caleb Williams go down and then we're actively hearing that things are relatively okay We got case kingdom just work in the Eagles defense playing crazy like my net football was insane I am scared though. It doesn't matter. We're good. By the time this comes out case kingdom will have thrown 15 intercepts That was his game. It doesn't matter. Yeah, we'll play the other dude We've got to survive like two more weeks I don't know what it's all about that's all life is as you get older. You're just micro goals. Just survive a week Survive two weeks. You got a trip in a week. So just have enough stuff to survive to the next thing

44:55That's all that matter. Ironic that was like I would play in really good golf and I had it was gonna be about three weeks From when I had ramped up a bunch till our trip and then I'm listening to the pod you talk in the other day And you're like you can't go two three weeks without playing you're just not gonna be sharp and it got in my head I'm like shit All right, I'm back on it Let us head this is the end of episode one of our polls bananas and make sure you check out next week We're gonna be diving in to even spite. You didn't think it gets spicier, but even spicier polls We'll see you next week most important my stay plug It's so tired Shut out dead