Full Show 9-8-26

0:00I feel like it feels like a Monday that feels like December to me. I was going a long time. It feels like it's been a while. Yeah. It's weird. Time off. Weird. You guys have a good time. Good, 3-day weekend. Oh yeah. How did you all celebrate my birthday? By working sports on a Sunday morning. Oh, okay. I got up real early in honor of Dave and then came in and talked on the radio. Funny I was listening. I didn't hear a birthday shout out. You can't expect me to know anything at that time of day. It's 10 a.m. I was warming up.

1:00Had a good weekend and Sunday my birthday played golf with Nick and Ed. You guys met on the show last week. Today's Ed's birthday. So yeah, it's a birthday. It's a birthday twins. Yeah, pretty much. And thank you very much to Brian Maine, who is the head pro out at Whitmore. And when I got there, the gentleman helping me said, hey, something waiting for you on your card and I got out there and he had a gift bag with a bunch of balls and teas and a really nice jacket and a really nice card. That nice. Yeah, I want to see the jacket. Yeah. Is it my Jeep? So that was very nice. It sounds like we have a real. We'll go on a beer. We'll go on a field trip at the top of the hour. There you go. It's funny. Ed is a very good golfer and golf instructor and Nick and I are very bad golfers.

2:00And so I'm used to having Ed teach me things, but I'm not used to watching him teach other people things. And I went to have dinner with Marine afterwards and I said to Nick, I'm like, for someone like Ed teaching us how to swing a golf club would be like if someone in our life didn't know how to put dressing on a salad, right? It's like it's so simple to him. It'd be like, okay, I see what you're doing, Kevin. You're putting the dressing on your head and what you want is to put it on the salad in that bowl. And you're like, I know I just keep trying to keep sitting my head. Keep missing. It's just one of the weirdest things. Yeah. Golf is so frustrating. You got to play a lot to have any chance at really being good though. No, it helps though. Not caring. Well, that definitely helps. That really helps. Because you're a little bit good thing. Yeah, when you're stressed out, it's hard to do. Yeah. Just do your job. Yeah. I don't play with people who take it seriously.

3:01Yeah, that's a good play. It's for the best. I can spend four hours with someone who's like, you know, mad every time they hit a bad shot. Yeah, that's so fun. It doesn't let you out wheels. Oh, yeah. I don't get mad at anything on except even now I don't even get mad at myself because I know I suck. Like I don't play golf. If part of the reason is I don't want to play something I am bad at to be good at it, I would have to spend a lot of time doing it and I don't want to do that. Yeah. So I just I don't want to do the work. I don't like being bad at golf, but I enjoy the aesthetic of it. Just getting outside and walking around. Because it's worth like sucking most of the time. And then yesterday my mom would have been 99 on Saturday. So Nick and Maria and I went over. Feb was out of town this weekend. So we'll be coming in a couple weeks and went over to the grave and we have this tradition in the family. I'm sure you guys have something similar, but my dad passed six months before my brother

4:05and my brother would go over every day, pardon me, and completely clean off the headstone. So we started doing that when my brother passed. And so I taught Nick to do it and he taught Phoebe to do it. And so we went over and cleaned the grave and they are buried right next door to the clocking gaze. Their best friends. So I cleaned theirs, put some flowers on there. That's cool. Very nice. Very nice. Dropped by the house first time since it's changed hands. It didn't look like super, super different. So I had to be weird though, but it was weird. Yeah, it was weird. So did, uh, did Wiggins get rid of the big mural of himself that he put on side of it? I advised him not to. I said, I said maybe try some else. There's big walking bigfoot. It's like some urban leisureies has one of Wiggins. That would be so great. That's a big black metal cut out of yourself and your yard. Um, President had a busy weekend.

5:10He, he, he doesn't let any grass growing him. Um, I saw a timeline. This is just literally like three hours worth. At 1154 AM, he posted an AI image of Robert Teneiro holding a Trump as my president shirt and 147, uh, an AI image of him in George Washington riding horses where George is looking at him very admiringly. Also 147 PM, AI image of him meeting with George Washington at the White House. Also 147 PM in AI image of him, renaming Lake Ontario 148 PM. Jess renaming New Mexico to New America 149 PM post image of him at McDonald's 156 PM post photo of moon saying the moon is ours 157 PM AI image of his face on Iran. And it just keeps going. It like it literally just I could read 10 more just keeps going.

6:13Now I need to know what this McDonald's. Yeah. What do you mean image of him at McDonald's? Yeah. That is true social. Um, he evidently also posted one yesterday or today that is a modern take. It's AI of course, of the president in a military uniform from today, not from like the revolutionary war with specific metals that he didn't earn. And so people are really making a deal out of this saying like, okay, we're used to the bitcoins or use to the laser beam eyes, but you don't get to do this. You don't get to do stolen valor. So Andy color just hair dark. He found time somewhere in there to. Yeah, I didn't see that picture of him with the dark hair. Man, he posts so much. Well, in 90% of you can't find any of these posts because he posts so much. Did you see the space force uniforms?

7:13I did see the space force. Yeah, they look like they're the empire. Where's Darth Vader? They're evidently literally based on the movie starship troopers. Haha, look at that picture of the side by side. That's great. Well, they're literally based on Nazis, right? Well, nothing because you just, he just typed someone typed into an AI image generator, make me a space force uniform. And then maybe somebody next to him was like, oh, it's just like starship troopers. Yeah, no, it's. And then he goes, yeah, oh, it's inspired. Very authoritarian. Man, I can't find anything about the McDonald's place. The thing about that. If you're just supposed to much, it won't load after a certain point. Yeah, the thing about truth social is that every, so there's a post and then there's like three of the worst looking ads you've ever seen in your life. And then there's a post and then three of the worst like, so it's very hard to tell like what is. That's been some time. What is what when you're trying to have a real, a real question. Using all of these AI cartoon memes, who's that for?

8:18Like very specifically, who's that for? Who does he think that will appeal to? Is it strategic at all or does he just get his jolly's doing it? It's trolling. Yeah, I think there are. It's to bug people that don't like him. Okay, so it's less about people who do like him and more about, I mean, I'm sure they enjoy it as well. I'm sure they like the ownership of the people that get mad about it. Well, I also think he just, he loves being online and he loves to post. Yeah. So when like Donald Trump is not creating these AI images himself, he is seeing them or he is having someone on his, someone on his staff is creating them for him. And then he's like, I like that one. And he, he reposted to his profile. He's incredibly online. Yeah. So, you know, some of it is to drum up support among the people who love it and like find him hilarious and then some of it's trolling and then some of it is he spends a lot of time on the internet and he just posts a lot.

9:18I mean, we all, everyone who has social media has those few people. They follow that post 30 times a day and it's just like, this is just what they like to do. They, it sparks joy for them. So. Okay. I found the picture. Oh, I want to see. Send it to me. He is, I hold it up to the camera here. He is just hanging out of a drive through window waving, wearing like a little McDonald's apron. Is there like a message? No, no, it's just that picture. Okay. It's, he loves to post. I mean, I think that just with my point, he just saw that picture of himself and he thought, I should put that on my grid. It is the exact perfect picture for me to find while Rachel is making that point because it is a flawless illustration because what she's trying to say is there is no point to it. There's no rhyme or reason. It makes to do it because he sees picture and goes, I like picture. Yeah. And post it. And sure enough, we find the McDonald's picture and it's just him waving out the drive through window for no reason and he posted it. It is official. Look out. I don't personally care what the relationship is between Donald Trump and Natalie,

10:22harp, whatever her name is. I do think she's doing damage to the country though. Now it's not her responsibility because she's a young woman and he's the president, but just the fact that they have this relationship, and I'm not talking about anything untoward, just that they have this relationship where she runs after him with this little printer and just printing these things out over and over. And you can see it, right? Or is it like that she was watching and he's like, posted it. Look at you, McDonald's posted. It's bad for the country. I know that the world has kind of gotten used to it. We're no longer shocked. But man, we're going to look back on this in a few years and just be like, what the hell is that? I hope so. I hope so too. I hope that's the word. But I think the president has AI psychosis. Hmm. How about just plain old? I don't even remember being at that McDonald's about what a wonderful photo. Like it's just all getting mixed up in there. In his head. We'll never be able to tell because he has been flooding the zone with all of these posts.

11:24Anywho. And a real 62 year old thing happened on my 60 second birthday. Real simple, nothing exciting. But I was just reading something and an ad popped up and it was for Wörther's originals. Oh, boy. The candy that every person dies with in their hand. And they were advertising their new fall caramel apple Wörther's. And I was like, well, fiddly. D. Yeah. Sounds pretty good. These little trees look pretty good. Yeah. How were they? I didn't get them. Oh. They fought off the advertisement story. I mean, I didn't have to and they're delicious in there in my pocket. Had I been in Stooks, I would have grabbed a bag. But I didn't know how to go through all of the shenanigans I needed. I'm very happy. To make them be in my mouth, though. Welcome back, DGS on KMOX full show today.

12:45Our days off for running out with baseball. We have a short one tomorrow. We'll go from one to one 45 games at two 45. Then I think we only have one of them after that. We have Ricky Horton coming up at two 30s. We'll talk about this more and Scott Terry at three wheels. I heard you talk about the tilted cap gate on sports and Sunday. But I don't think you talked to DGS fans about it, right? Well, no, it didn't happen to Friday night. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, not great. Hit me. I mean, obviously, I think by now, most hardcore, cardinal fans have seen it, read all of the reaction to it. But the crew chief who was the home plate umpire for that series. They have a rep. Dog headings. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. He's got a reputation for being this. Okay. And in fact, not long after the game, Chipper Jones, the Hall of Fame, or posted like, yep, that's what he is. So this goes back to when Chipper Jones was playing, which is a while ago, because he's already in the Hall of Fame. So this has been his reputation for a long time.

13:47He's got the rabbit ears. He hears everything and he's got the red ass. He's always looking to pick a fight with somebody. So he picked a fight with Hansel Rincone who's making his major league debut, whose hat was crooked. He wears his hat a little tilted. So did CCC, Sebastian. So does Sonny Gray. Son of Babe Ruth. So did Babe Ruth. So did Fernando Rodney. You make like modern players and and somebody. He makes him straighten it out because as he explained later, he's not going to wear it like that on my field. Your field. It's a course field, buddy. That ain't your field. It's a major league. You're just there to enforce the rules and he admitted after the game, there's no rule about this. He said, it's sort of an unwritten rule. Well, you're not there to enforce the unwritten. You're there to enforce the written ones, the ones in the book. Like that's literally your job. So he does this. He makes a scene out of it. Who knows whether it impacted Rincone's performance. It may have it may not have because he was already nervous anyway. It's his major league debut, but you pick on a rookie in that spot.

14:47And that's not even the worst of the night because obviously, you know, Ollie comes out after all that and he's and he gets thrown out because he's pissed. He's like, why are you? What are you doing? Grow up. Grow the blank up. So he gets run and at the end of that, he charges Justin Bruehl with a clock violation because they weren't ready to go because they were having the conversation with the manager. So he doubles down on that. Here in the game, there was a play at third base that the Cardinals challenge via video review. And when he came out to announce the verdict, his he's ditch crew chief, he had stank on it. He was like, calls up held Cardinals lose their challenge. He came out with like real negative energy on that and then later blew that call at home plate where the runner, Johnston was out by what would say Dave did three feet and week Cardinals couldn't review it because they had already lost that earlier challenge. So that undermines, I think, in the public eye, whether or not this guy is being on the

15:48on the up and up. Now I don't think he did that despite the Cardinals. But I have to leave it open as a possibility given his behavior the whole night. And that's why it can't happen. And what I don't understand is why Major League Baseball doesn't make empires publicly accountable for these things because their actions are very public. We see them and actions like we saw Friday undermine fans trust in outcomes because if fans think you're taking it personally and you're now taking it out on a team that you had an issue with, that's undermining that even if that's not what you're doing, even if you're not actually making the call, maybe I think he just blew the call at home plate. But just the fact that it's possible that there was something more to it means Major League Baseball needs to address it. He came out the next day and apologized after he lied about it after he lied about it. So he does the post game blames a Rockies player for bringing up the tilted hat. The Rockies players all said, we didn't say anything.

16:49What are you talking about? So he made up an explanation for it. And then he gets to work the next day to me. If you did that, you're immediately suspended if I'm the commissioner. You are immediately sidelined. You are not working the next day. You're getting a couple of days off because you can't lie number one. You can't make stuff up. You can't insert yourself into a situation where you don't belong and make the story about you and do it repeatedly over 20 years. At some point with people taking into account these things, when the public starts to question, whether or not an official, in this case, an umpire is unbiased in their calls. You have a problem. Even if we can't say that he did it on purpose, I don't think he did. I don't think he made the call against the Cardinals on purpose. But how can you say that you know for sure when you allow this pattern of behavior to continue? And then Major League Baseball never makes these punishments public. He got, he got a talking to from his superiors.

17:50He had to apologize, but it doesn't change the fact that you threw Rockies players on the, the Rockies manager went out and chewed him out before the next day. Like what are you doing? Why are you throwing my players onto the bus? And then guys in both dugouts came out with all their hats crooked for the Saturday game. Yeah. Just just a little point to like, dude, take it easy. Yeah. That was great to see. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a long, long time. You're such a sage. You're looking better than a body has. Look up. I got two G S on K and M O X. 134. We have attorney Brad Young coming up at two. Ricky Horton at two 30. Scott Terry at three mad Paulie at four. I didn't get the hell out of here. You guys are coming up. Uh, rage and Andrew. I got some, uh, Gen Z stuff for you, but I want to start. With rage, uh, talking about the Gen Z stair. Oh, yeah. I was thinking about the Gen Z stair this weekend, you know, just fuming.

18:59Just, you know, I was, I was consuming my breath, waking thought. No, Gen Z seems to be like, oh, you don't like the Gen Z stair because you need someone to kiss your butt when you go into the coffee shop or whatever. And I'm like, no, I don't think it's that. I really don't think I need someone to like build me up or pretend to be nice to me. But the thing that the Gen Z kids need to realize is that it throws the rest of us off because it's just a completely different social interaction than we've been experiencing for our entire lives. Yeah. So we want maybe that while the books at last get here. But as we were doing, I fully, um, highаст methodology, the, uh, uh, waking up rising out of the QUEST which not gonna do it for the first time. Um, I'm not sure when to go, uh, is that how we could find something similar that when I moved it to online group or Morg and Fe of М, we still remember the job. It's really, really mega fun.

19:59Uh, so I'm going to just really encourage you to try to get peopleания into the conversation and to move things along more quickly if they seem like they don't know what they're doing. That was just part of my job. So whenever you now go into a store or restaurant or whatever, and the person is like not acknowledging you and not saying hello when you even get up to the register, it is odd and it's just a completely different social interaction than we're used to. We don't know what cues to pick up on because you're not giving any clues. You're not being the line leader as you should be or as at least as it has been for all of history. So just, I mean, you know, I don't think everyone's like, you're not kissing my butt. It's like, no, it's just, yeah. Usually this is how it goes and you've completely thrown that out the window. So now I got to figure out a new way to do this. Yeah, it would be, this is worse maybe, but it would be if it was the opposite

21:01and they were super chatty. Like, you're throwing me off. Like I'm just, I'm used to a rhythm. I'm used to a little, you know, this, a little that. Well, you guys are no longer millennials. You are now the new boomers. That's what they're calling you. They said that they are. They're so sick of hearing. We did a thing, hipster culture, a bunch of Disney adult Harry Potter references, hustle culture. They're like, you guys are the oldest generation at the youngest age of all time. Okay. I've never said I did a thing. I've always hated that. That's always been like a huge pet peeve of mine on social media. No one says that anymore. Also, there is no more millennial hipster culture because they're just campy that that died off naturally the way that all edge, you know, future looking hipster cultures. At some point, someone took the last Fedora off.

22:01Yeah. At some point, they all die. And this one has long since this one died before they were even born. And you know what? If you got a problem with hipster culture from like 2012, let me just say you weren't there. Yeah. You have no idea how beautiful it could truly be. You don't get it. Has anybody seen the TikTok trend of people that were posting like when they were in the? Yes. Yeah. It's been a lot of fun to look at. It's like, yeah, okay. That's about right. I remember that. I remember it all too well. It was wonderful. And it was fun. Yeah, it was the last time we didn't take ourselves too seriously. We didn't worry about fringe. Yeah. It was like, obviously not just being myself. It was the last time I was happy. That's Kevin. The guy need his wheeler teaming up. The guy's the only one that I was to address on the show. You don't need that only on the. The third thing I always thought that was hilarious. 54 year old, 12 year old that we worked with. Yeah. This is funny.

23:02Yeah. I was, you know, it's interesting about the way this conversation's going. Is it almost always that the youngest adult generation and the oldest adult generations are always the most annoying? I don't know. Because they expect the whole ass world to conform to them. So like the opposite to the Gen Z thing that we're talking about is the boomer side of it right now where, well, I don't know. I don't want to text. If you want to reach me, call me. No, join the rest of us in 2026 and get texts. It's free. It's included in your phone plan. So stop being rigid just because you're not used to it. And on the on the young side, don't just stare at me like I'm, you're a cow staring at a new gate. See words, use them. It's okay. Conform a little bit to the people around you so we can all get along. Are you giving me that new cow gate stare? I just, I, Gen Z hurts my feelings because it's like, what did I do? What did I do to you? Yeah, what did I do? You're always bullying millennials.

24:03You're always talking about, oh, you're so cringy. You're so terrible. Blah, blah, blah. I, when I've arrived was that age. I looked at Gen X and I was just like, oh, yeah, those people are a little older than me. They do some things a little differently, but I didn't sit around all day trying to like, you guys, you guys have been under someone's thumb the whole time. Oh, yeah, because I remember. I remember. And when I was close with on the show, he loved giving you guys credit. Yeah. Yeah, it was like millennials are the stupidest people who have ever lived and they all they do is eat avocado toast and that's why they can't afford a house. And now it's like we're a little older and we've got these younger people being like, I keep believe the choices you make. We got these younger people like. The stupidest person. Here, hold my beer. I'll show you a stupid. Yeah. So I say, just stop bullying me, please. They're like, no, it's because you smell bad that you can't get a house. Yeah. Because they have a conditos. You stink. Yeah. But the bullying also leads some millennials to try desperately to come off as Gen Z.

25:03And I don't like that either. Yeah. I'm like, first of all, it's not going to save you. Also, still going to make you. Yeah, it'll be bullying you. That is our, no, Rachel is right. That is our version of like trying to kind of deage ourselves is like, you know, on being on TikTok and acting like you're Gen Z. And it's like, hold on. You definitely look to be. Yeah. You're not fooling anybody. 36 right along with me, their pal. And it's undignified to pretend it's 22 years old when you're 35. It's undignified. Yeah. You guys, millennials would do themselves a real favor if they took more of the Gen X approach. And instead of being upset about it, go on the offensive and attack back. Start the Iraq war. Go back at them. Go back at them. Like, for the most part, I like what they do. Yeah. I don't like the stare. I think it's like, look, you're working in customer service. You got to fulfill your job. Yeah, the stare isn't safe. That's really like my number one complaint. That and the bullying. Besides that, I'm like, oh, you guys seem like. I would eat really bullies.

26:04It's smart. Gen X because we'll just fight. We're like fine. You want to play this game? You want to get mean? We'll get mean with you. See if you like it when we get mean. Well, to your point that under your thinking, the youngest and oldest generations are the biggest day holes. I think. So we're not counting kids because kids are kids. So we're in the middle. Yeah. And I don't know. Like, my generation did nothing but stupid stuff. That's what I'm saying. I think we look at the 80s, like the hair, the peg jeans, the knee run. When we were that age, the older groups hated us. Gen X was like, oh, your bunch of losers, skaters. Yeah. I mean, like that was the vibe of it. Okay. Yeah. That was dumb and fun. Yeah, you didn't have the internet. That's right. Yeah. That's correct. That's a great point. Yeah. Because all I had, and I didn't get it a lot, but like my dad, who was greatest generation, was just like, you don't know what it was. Of course. Yeah. But, you know, it's kind of right to pass it.

27:05But that's every dad. Yeah. And then it's every granddad. It's every generation is going to tell the newest ones that they're weak and soft and they don't, they didn't live the hard way and, you know, whatever. I mean, that's, that's just the battle of time. Yeah. And it's interesting that it's the, it seems to typically be the youngest adults and the oldest adults that refuse to change and refuse to just go along, to get along. Like no, we're going to do it my way. Like, all right. Well, then we're just going to ignore you. You go ahead and do your thing. And when you don't succeed in your job, don't blame me. That really makes sense to me though. Because the oldest people who are still with it are looking at two or three or four generations of bears and going, what? Yeah. And the youngest are just stupid. I was stupid. Yeah. You were stupid. Yeah. And I don't mean stupid like spike in my hair, stupid. I mean stupid like thinking I knew you don't get anything.

28:05Yeah. But it comes along with the territory. Mm-hmm. That's why in your 20s and 30s you go, oh crap. Yeah. I didn't know everything. Mm-hmm. And then your six is you're like, what the hell do I do with my life? I let out a little too much of it. Here are a couple of things that are actually happening to us. The US citizen slice of the American economy, pie has never been smaller. It is at 52.8%. I'm not sure what that contrast with, whether it used to be 70 or 60. But basically we're all getting the smallest slice of the GDP that we ever have. Mm-hmm. Who's getting the other slice? The top one. The top. Yes. That is true story. Oh, so when you said American citizens, I thought that meant like... Yeah, sorry about that. I mean like the work of people. Gotcha. Scientists have found parasites in almost every fish from a recent tuna hall, 96% were

29:05infected with parasites and should not be eaten. Yeah, I saw the headline for that and it was like, it could ruin your meal. She think? I would think it would be more than your meal. What else? There's more stuff we can eat now, right? Wasn't there a couple more things over the weekend? Came out? They should have a website that's like, don't eat this. It's crazy. Are cheese is still good? I think so. Thanks so. I got to feel something right. I'm just kidding. Kids, I'll fall off my chair. Been speaking a lot about age in this first hour. For the first time, I guess in the world since we've been keeping track, people over 65 outnumber people younger than five. Yep. And it's funny. I remember hearing about this, the pyramid turning upside down. In college.

30:05And now it's finally happened. So we've tipped the scale. There are now more old people than young people. Just because advancements in medicine and people live. Those are the 50-digit. I wasn't getting pregnant anymore. Yeah, the 50-digit. Yeah, we talked about that Friday. Yeah. Yeah. Teenagers. No more teenage pregnancy. Lower birth rate. Oldsters live in even older. Yep. Well, and keeping in mind too, and this ties into that last couple. Conversation because when you're talking about the economy, I mean, since 2020, six years, housing prices are up 54%. So when you think of the things that people want to do when they're going to have kids, you want to buy a house. You want to have the space. You want to go. It's getting harder to have kids, which means people are waiting longer or putting it off or just not doing it because prices are crazy. And jobs have not been as fruitful for people because there isn't promotion.

31:06Like you're not, most people don't get the same like, well, if I stay at this place for 25 years, I'll be making great money and have a pension and all that. Like that world doesn't exist. The world of the boomers and even of us in Gen X. It's not what it was when I was doing this. Yeah. When I was in my 20s, all of those things were doable. And especially a home was doable. And now you have to have a household income of $110,000 just to maintain the median level home, just to buy the median level home. And that is well above the norm for household average. Like you have to be an above average earner to own a median size home. Yeah. And when you add in all those things, people actually being more disciplined and planned about when they're going to have kids, well, of course, that means that you're going to have fewer young babies. Well, we are. It means there can be no one to pay for us.

32:08Well, we probably should think about that. I mean, is that a reason to populate the earth though? No, no. But who's going to support it? Let's be candid. Yes. That has been that's the model. That has been the model. I mean, for the US and for social security and things like that, it's not even like a hidden thing like wink wink. Oh, no, they'll take care of us. It's like, yeah, that's the plan. That's plan. Yeah. Yep. And you know, that plan might need a just no plan. Yeah, that's the thing is like no plan can be good permanently. Right? I mean, you always have to be able to and willing to adapt in some way, shape or form. Rather than just yelling at people for not having babies. Yeah, it's like you need to have a baby so that you can continue to support the people who have all of the world. Well, that's the other part. Right? You get to live poor your whole life. And then also those social safety nets are probably going to be gone by the time your kids are old. So, but you still need to have them because we need help right now.

33:09Like, I'm sorry. I hate to sound so pessimistic about it, but it's not like a real appealing cell to people. Yeah. And I would that I would throw in on top of it. I don't think there has ever been a time maybe maybe in the way back with it. I'm not, you know, I have experience, but I can't remember a time where the age gap between the people who make the laws and rules and the people that are having children has been this great. Right. Because if you go through and look at the history for just using the presidents as an example, we've never had presidents this old before. They're always in their fifties basically. You know, either somewhere in the like the mid to late forties to the early sixties is kind of that range. That's not that far removed because you're that in that case, your kids are having kids, right? Well, now we're talking about grandfathers and great grandfathers. And I know Congress is the same way. So when you have this giant gap when it comes to making policy and how the world works and how it needs to work, you don't have very many if any millennial voices.

34:12You have almost no gen X voices in those rooms, making those laws should it be like on foundation where they have the three clones where younger people should learn. Yeah, middle age people should decide. Yeah, and older people should advise. Yeah, morning, day and night. Yeah, work for them. Hey, we're on the old day in galaxy. And that's thousands of years in the future. It was still working. We got to do is clone. We got to find the right leader though. I'm right here. There you go. Let's clone Dave. Don't know what you imagine Dave. Dave prime. Being that like being the middle day. Oh, he's being Dave three. One in charge. I can't imagine it being me holy crap. Like a little wild ass Kevin and an older one barking at me. Oh my God. Yeah, I'll tell you right now. Don't listen to the young Dave clone add up. In fact, give him to least about 59. Don't be a man.

35:14Say you might be. Keep out. Keep ready for the moon. Look back guys. DHS on camel X happy Tuesday. Attorney Brad young joins us. Hey, Brad. Hey, Dave. Man, let's talk about the Lindsey Clancy case first. Like breaking news. The defense attorney. I think his name is Reddington. Just asked President Trump to pardon Lindsey Clancy. Which I don't think is a thing, right? He has no control over state charges. Am I right? Correct. It would be a pardon irrelevant pardon really because as far as I know, she's not charged with any federal crimes. They're all state crimes and the president has no pardon power when it comes to violations of state law. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of surprising because he seemed like a pretty good lawyer. Not a weird finish. I had never heard when the judge, first of all, the judge seems a bit like a whoos to me. I don't need a tyrant, but he just seemed kind of whessyish and just kind of like flippy

36:19floppy. When he said, I think I'm just going to be a mistrial and then the defense is like, give me an hour. I want to try to get a stay. I've never heard of a stay of a mistrial order, but I haven't done it in 25 years. No. I've never heard of that. And it was really unclear at the get go, Dave, about what that judge was even asking for. Whether he was asking for, you get an hour to get the state Supreme Court to issue a stay or whether he was asking for, you go back and in an hour, convince me why I shouldn't issue a stay. There were so many. There are very hardies here, particularly when he was interviewing solitary members of the jury. And that is, I'm not going to say it violates the rules, but it violates the procedures that have been followed for hundreds of years. So this case was ripe for appeal because of those types of errors. Also, as you know, that one of the lynch pins of any case on appeal, Dave, is situations

37:23dealing with the jury instructions. There was a last minute addition at the judge's instance of a resistance rather of adding the manslaughter charge at the last minute. So this case was fraught with errors. And really, when you look at it, though, I'm not sure there's going to be a retrial. It would not shock me. In fact, I would probably think there's a greater than a 50% chance that the parties work out some kind of a deal where she pleads guilty by reason of insanity, gets to go to a state mental institution, avoids prison time. I think that's probably the, that's probably what's going to happen at this point. I agree. I was also thinking on my time off Brad about this. And so you guys know Brad and I were texting about it during the day. And he sent me a very sexy pick. So I appreciated both of those. I told you not to mention that.

38:24I know. I know. I know. Don't ever trust me with things like that. But I thought that the issue of the holdout juror as I told Brad last week was fascinating because in essence, on one side, you go, well, the guy that he's just giving his opinion, he's not convinced. What if it was 11 to 1 the other way, you know? And I think that the defense attorney even came out afterwards, after crushing him, the holdout juror and saying, I support his, you know, right to do that. How did you see it? Well, I saw it as the potential for, for jury misconduct, not the juror misconduct, but jury misconduct, meaning attempts to influence the jury because listen, the defense attorney Reddington, he apparently had access to information from the jury, not just that it was 11 to 1, but the reason why it was 11 to 1, meaning it was 11 votes to either a quit or to convict

39:29by reason of it, or not guilty by reason of insanity. And the one was the, was a soul holdout. He shouldn't even have access to that type of information. How did he get it? How did he obtain it? Did the judge tell them? I mean, there's so many questions here. And listen, if you try to be right, a single solitary juror member because they're quote not following the instructions, unquote, because that juror isn't doing what you want them to do, that's tampering with the jury. So there's so many questions, like you like to say, you could almost write, you could write a textbook on this for law school of what not to do because of all of the inconsistencies here that we normally don't see. Yeah, very, very strange case. No doubt about it. Yeah. Brad, I'm wondering just, you know, as an attorney, how frustrating is it for you to see a high profile case like this and realize that so many people just seem to be taking like

40:31whatever fits their narrative, whether it's, you know, you think she should rot in prison or she should go free. It's so clear that people take what they want, not everyone, of course, but like so many people on social media just take what they want from the situation. I don't know. Just how does that feel for you as someone who understands the process to kind of see that play out? Well, let me answer it with this way. I get a lot of feedback when I'm doing my Wednesday morning segments with Megan Lynch. And I don't really, I don't advocate a position. I give both arguments. I give both sides. I might give predictions on how it turns out, but I never give, or I've never really give my opinion about what I would like to see happen. And yet so much today is a Rorschach test that that people only see what we want them or what they want to see. And the facts aren't really all that important. What's important is the confirming of our beliefs.

41:33And look, and everyone said this, I just not original to me, but if you look at someone's social media history, so typically they're surrounded by people who agree with them politically, right or left. And so that becomes an echo chamber. And then it becomes a prism by which they look at these high profile cases. And it is disappointing that we've lost the ability for rational analysis in favor of reflexively giving our opinions on what we want to happen instead of analyzing what has happened. You know what I was thinking too? And I get why we don't do this. I understand the defendant's right to a jury. I still remember some of law school. But in a case like this, where someone admits through counsel that I did these things, I committed these acts. And in a case like this, doesn't it make much more sense? Doesn't it seem more humane to have maybe a panel of three psychiatrist work along with

42:37a judge and assess the situation and say, we've come to the conclusion that X. I mean, I trust that group more than just a group of jurors because it's really a matter of law at this point, right? Well, that's true. But yet the greatest power that the state has is to take away our freedom. And it would certainly be unconstitutional, maybe better, but it would certainly be unconstitutional to see that ability to remove our freedom from us to a panel of doctors or psychiatrists instead of a jury of our peers because we're entitled to that. I see your point that it seems it would be logically it would make more sense because they would have a perspective that maybe regular people don't have. But then again, isn't that true in almost any area where people are casting judgment

43:41on someone else? Experts might do a better job, but that's not the system we have under a constitution. Good right. Brad, there has been one thing that's been bothering me throughout this case. As I understand in Connecticut, where this, I'm sorry, was it Connecticut or Massachusetts? Massachusetts. Massachusetts. Massachusetts. Massachusetts. Lindsey Clancy had maybe a different circumstance than she would in other states as far as, proving psychosis or the prosecution has to prove that she didn't have psychosis. But from what I understand, she was never formerly diagnosed with psychosis. And even when they had a psychiatrist on the stand, the psychiatrist said she didn't have psychosis whenever she killed these children. So is this something that you can just claim? It was confusing to me that there was never a diagnosis, but we're all going like, okay, well, she had psychosis. Well, she was a diagnosed by a treating physician, but their experts did create diagnoses. And that really swerves into a whole different area of discussion, Rachel, which is so

44:47much of what we have in litigation is a battle of paid experts. And you look right now at the, I'm going to give an example. I'm not involved in this type of litigation, but look at the baby powder litigation. And you've had so many experts that testified that there was talc and that this caused all of these problems. And yet you had an equal number of experts testify that there was absolutely no problem. You have the same issue with the bear litigation over Roundup, where you had a whole fleet of experts saying it caused non-Hotchkins lymphoma, even though there's no study that shows that. And Europe doesn't even acknowledge that Roundup can even cause non-Hotchkins lymphoma. So that's the problem we get into with experts versus treaters. I battle that in my, in my own law practice. That's why I typically use experts who are also treaters instead of just using hired guns, but that's a problem with any type of litigation that involves an injury.

45:47Sorry. When you say they're paid, are they paid by a lobby, I guess? Oh, let me answer this one. That's how I was going to jump in. So I only did about 10 years, my legal career, which brought me to kind of the top of taking depositions, defending depositions, hiring expert witnesses. And I don't know how it is today with 25 years of technology behind me, berates their literally lists of these doctors. And if I need someone to say that the crock pop blew up in your face, here's my guy. If I need to say that this person should have had the baby delivered because of preeclampsia, here's my lady. And Fred, I'm going to be magnanimous and say most are ethical, but a great many of them are not. And they are paid by the party. So if I'm going to hire expert witness, Kevin Wheeler and his retainers, $10,000, no things probably going to cost $50,000. And he's going to give me the opinion that I want.

46:48That's how it works. How can that be legal? I mean, how can you pay for someone to say what you want them to say on the stand? Not only is it legal, that is the standard in practice. That's crazy. And because at least in theory, Rachel, you could say in this perfect world, you go to this doctor and he's going to give you a fair and balanced reading of it. Sometimes I hire experts and they come back and they say, Brad, I can't tell you what you want me to say. Like, okay, fine. Here's your retainer and God bless you. But then other times they'll come back and say, hey, this is where I see it because they know what I want them to say. And in this case, if the defense hires an expert psychiatrist, they're not going to come back and say, oh, she's completely as sane as sane can be. Otherwise, they're not going to get paid. Okay. Can I take one word left turn here? So when you explain all of this with the paid experts, I'm thinking of cases like, I

47:51don't know, the meta case where attorneys general are suing them and I'm assuming everyone's paying expert witnesses on their side. But the resources that a company like meta has, that leads me to believe that the evidence is just so damning that they can't even hire someone to do a convincing enough job. Does that make sense? Yeah. No, it is so easy as Dave's already said. It is so easy to find experts to say literally anything that it's just, it's not a problem. I can find, I had a case one time and I'm not going to take much time with this, but they based their opinion, it was my opposing counsel, whom I want to trial, by the way, but the opposing counsel hired a doctor that was basing his opinions on the writing of some doctor from the 1880s. And that was his entire basis for his opinion on what some guy said in 1880. And my cross examination was great. I said, well, in 1880s, they said smoking is good for you. Do you agree with that? And in the 1880s, they said bloodletting was fantastic and we should use snails more

48:52often. You agree with that? And it was easy to break that person down, but literally you can find an expert for anything. Brad, I'm going to take a quick break. More with Brad after this. I'm gonna talk about Missouri as Supreme Court to revive Republican-drawn congressional map. But I understand so little of this. I'm not sure even want to go. You know what I mean? I'm not sure you can go one-on-one enough for me. Well, here's the bottom line. And bottom line is, do I think the Supreme Court is gonna take this case? And I don't. Because you have a state Supreme Court with an unanimous ruling interpreting Missouri law and applying Missouri procedures.

49:52So I don't think there's any room here for the Supreme to take it. With one caveat, okay? One example or one exception to this. If the Supreme Court does take it, it will be on this point. Because the Missouri Supreme Court not only said that you can have a referendum on the ballot in November to validate or reject the legislature's institution of a new congressional map, but the Missouri Supreme Court reverted back to the 2022 map for the general election, even though it was the 2025 map that governed the primary. So now you've got people who ran in the primary. Those districts may not even exist now. And the districts that did not exist in 2025 in the primary, rather in 2026 from the primary, are now magically resurrected for November. So because of that conflict, that's the only avenue that I see where the Supreme Court

50:56may step in and say, you can't have a change of a congressional map between the date of the primary and the date of the general election. But we're going to have trouble even nationally, don't you think? I mean, with the mail-in stuff, I mean, the elections like next week, I mean, we're right up against it. Right. And it's right around the corner. In fact, today is the deadline in Missouri to change anything for the November ballot. Now, that's still subject to, if the Supreme Court says we're going to issue a stay, okay, there's nothing the state's going to do about it. Of course, they're going to follow what the Supreme say. But today's the deadline because it takes a long time to finalize a ballot, to mail it out to people, to send it to military people overseas. That'll take time. And it's not like you just update somebody's social media feed and you can now vote in November. It's a lot more complicated than that. So listen, this is basically the Lawyers' full employment act every November now, every

51:56time there's an election rather. It's a lot of litigation. And I just don't see that changing anytime soon. We only have a couple minutes left, but I want to get your and everyone else's thoughts on these takeovers. It happened again over the weekend in South City and I think they took the cops a long time to get there. And this is becoming embarrassing and dangerous. It is. And it shows a fundamental, I don't know, our paradigm for what do we look at the cops to do? Bottom line is, more often than not, the police can't stop crime before it happens. They're much better at solving it after it happens. And so do we expect that there's going to be a police division, to monitor social media, to figure out where these street takeovers are going to happen? They're not equipped for that. So the question becomes, do we need to change policing to keep up with these changing dynamics of crime? I mean, I'm trying to, I understand the way it went Sunday night.

53:00There were multiple things that happened in St. Louis, right? We had an, I was a police cruiser that was involved in an accident. There was a hostage situation over in Tower Grove or something along those lines, right? So I understand it wasn't the only thing going on. But do we not have the ability to respond in less than an hour to something as significant as cars on fire, people waving weapons around and taking over an intersection? If we don't have the capability to respond to more than one or two things at the same time, and I'm not blaming police, this is not, to me, it's not on them. We don't have enough of them. We're 250 officers short. Yes. But what we're budgeted for, and I get the challenges, but at some point, the answer needs to be we have an answer. It can't be throw your hands up. Well, we don't know what to do. Well, I don't know. Maybe have enough people or a plan in place to call in the state troopers or to call in neighboring, you know, a police departments when something of that magnitude is happening. You can't just be like, we're surrendering the street to 150 teenagers.

54:01It's insane. Well, and we've already got a plan for that wheels. For example, a couple of years ago, there was a state-city partnership where the state gave state troopers to the city to do routine things like pulling people over, checking for DUIs, doing those kind of routine things so that the St. Louis police could have more manpower to focus on the street takeovers, the murders, the shootings. And yet that was so short-lived, I thought, this is a model. This is a partnership plan for how to solve problems on a short-term basis. And yet we're not even following the model that we've already tried and we know it works. Thank you, bad, appreciate it. My pleasure. Well, my guy is DJ S and K M O X. I'm going to talk to you about Ricky Horton.

55:03Hey, Rick. Oh, no, I think we lost him. Hey, Eager, can you call Ricky? He has dropped off the thing. He's playing possum with us. He's sitting there giggling. Let's see how long they'll wait. I guess the phone, the signal in San Francisco is not that great. Guess so. What's tonight? What's that game? Oh, the game time. I think it's another nine o'clock. Oh, it's late. Sorry, hey, it's not that bad. Eight forty-five. Oh, that's not bad. That's not bad. That's not bad. It's 45. He doesn't want our sympathy, but it's funny because these all mean really late nights for him. Yeah. Like in this stretch of LA and then Colorado on the weekend, but he wasn't the weekend for Mads Duty. But then you get to San Francisco now.

56:04These are long nights, man. And these have been long games. The cartels have been playing long games lately because they're scoring a lot of runs. Yeah. They're averaging seven runs a game on the road trip. Crazy. Yeah. As soon as you get away from Bush, here comes the power. And it's, again, we know it's the ballpark. It's just, it's the same thing. They're, they're, if you look at the pitching, the pitching is more successful at home and the offense is more successful on the road. And just nothing to be done, huh? I don't think so. I mean, you know, people are arguing maybe you move in the fences, but that's not going to make it, make you win more. Yeah. Maybe hit more home runs, but it's not going to affect the income because the other teams get ahead of them too. Right. We have Ricky on the phone now. Hey, Rick. Hey, what's going on? Sorry, my phone battery died kind of like the game died yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. So you see how I do the segue out. I'm betting it's been around you guys so long I get with the segue. The old battery dying. I know that one guy. I think he knows he's going to be good. I can hear him. He may be. I bet you just want to be friends, don't you?

57:04Yeah, my battery. Yeah. So my batteries are a bit because I just did the walk through the streets of San Francisco, which, you know, I know they used to be hilly, but I think they're hilly or. Oh, I mean, I don't know. Maybe maybe it's my age, but man, nice long walk through a beautiful city and, you know, that kind of cleared my mind of yesterday's yesterday's loss, which was not a not a bad loss, but it was a bad game to lose. That's how I would describe it. Yeah. I think I was going to brag to you that on my birthday Sunday, I played golf with our mutual friend Ed Curtis and out drove him on one hole, but he's on the stream. So I won't say that. He played that whole blind photo that that that that worked. And it's not like I took a picture of it. I could send you or anything. So yeah, but you know, he's kind of coaching you. So he probably gets a little bit of joy out of that too. So I mean, he's trying to help you. Right? He cares. He didn't look very joyful, but yeah, you may be right. We've already done this with wheels.

58:05Scott Terry will be with us in three P.M. We'll do it with him as well. But as a form of big league pitcher, I got to get your opinion on the Rincone tilted hat thing with the ump. Okay. So, so I think I think the ship has sailed with worrying about how players dress. So I feel like if you're going to be old school, you're like really old school now. Because I mean, I don't think that way. I mean, it's like, look, players are going to be players. You're going to, there's so much flair in the league over the last 30 years, not 30 minutes, 30 years. Right. Then it's like, okay, so that's not a, that's not a big bone to pick in my mind. I, I am no longer a get off your long kind of guy when it comes to that stuff. So I just thought what bothered me most about that and I kind of went off on that on, on the, on the TV post game is, is look, this guy's making his major league debut. That is sacred for this young man and for his family and for his friend. This is a moment that he will remember the rest of his life. And the first thing you get is fix your hat. I mean, that's, and by the way, you're getting somebody to say that to you in a language

59:05you don't even understand because he doesn't speak English. So I just thought that was terrible timing and, and just almost cruel to that, to that young pitcher. And you know, I, what I did love though is the teammates response to that. And not only the Cardinal teammates and the Rockies players, but really the rest of the league is kind of rallying behind that moment. I, I thought that was really interesting, Ricky, because it comes in the midst of a whole bunch of other things in that game too. And it sure makes it seem like Doug Eding's came into that with some kind of, I don't know, bug up that. Yeah. Well, it seems I sure does seem like it. And I, I don't know the intentions of his heart. I'm not saying that, but obviously it's something you have to be concerned about when you're talking about the integrity of the game of baseball. And I think the integrity was, I think it got pushed, you know, one thing that bothered me tremendously, and I noticed the guys on the TV said the same thing and the Rockies TV guys said the same thing. It's like the emphatic call at third base. Yeah, I told you he was saying, I mean, he didn't say that, but kind of.

1:00:05And I mean, it was very clear. He was rooting for that call to go against the Cardinals and the way he said that and that is just, you can't have that in an umpire and umpire is impartial. And an umpire on top of that, and I don't want to get myself in trouble for this. But the reality is an umpire also is to be, is to have integrity and everything he says. And everything that he said post game to Derek Gould, our pool reporter, to explain what happened. Everything he said was either, let's just say it was less than accurate about whether it was, I mean, I can't, again, not judging him, but everything he said was not correct. I mean, he said the Cardinals didn't complain until after the kid gave up runs. That was that was one of the quotes. And the point is, Oli didn't know until then and he knew that. Oli didn't know until he went out to the mound and Bernal told him and that's when Oli went off. And so the point is everything was very kind of deflective, which I don't, I don't think an umpire should do that. And I'm actually pretty pro umpire as you guys know, most of the time I know it's a hard

1:01:05not job to do. But you know what? I'm pro player too, but sometimes players do, players do dumb things. And I just think that was a very, very bad moment for a nation based moment. Yeah, it didn't help that he also threw a Rockies hitter under the bus and all the Rockies hitters and we didn't say a word. So why don't I know why he's making stuff up? And then there's no public accountability, which I think is the big part. And I don't want to get you in trouble, Ricky, but I can't get in trouble for this. Major League Baseball has this wrong. You cannot have infractions that the public sees and hears and then not have consequences that the public sees in here is just like players do. Just like you do or a manager does or a general manager. Anyone else gets public consequences, but not on buyers. So there's there's there's implied consequences that I think the MLB would answer that by saying there's implied consequences. We made him apologize to Goodman and to Rincone. Okay, well, that's not like really a public thing. That's kind of like it actually happened to see it. I mean, so and by the way, the apology to Rincone was said and then Rincone later said,

1:02:07well, what did he say? Because I don't know. I didn't understand it. I mean, so, so does it count as an apology? The person doesn't understand you. Is that really communication? The answer is an infatic no. I mean, that was very, that was improper in my mind for both him and the league to expect that that counted as an apology. You know, so I'm not really big on that either. So yeah, I get it. I mean, I think at MLB should issue a statement and then I don't doubt that there is accountability. I really don't doubt that there's accountability for that kind of moment in time for them. And those bad two innings, which he seemed to have lost it. But the fact that the public doesn't fully know about it are our notes, by the way, that day said that was produced by Majority Baseball said, watch out for fireworks in Colorado. The Cardinals might throw at Goodman, okay? Wow. They have a long that is. Yeah. They have a long that is based on what he said. He started a firestorm. So honestly, the Rockies were matter than the Cardinals were the next day.

1:03:09They really were. Now the Cardinals response was great. It was a, hey, we're going to do an us thing and we're all going to wear our high-hat sideways and including John Rudy, by the way. John Rudy had his hat sideways. That's awesome. I would have had that on. I would have had that on. I really saluted JR for doing that. And I didn't find a hat on. I'd done the same thing. Yeah. First of all, I thought there was a little too much look at me in the apology. Oh, we're going to wait until the game is going and stop in the middle of an inning and do it out there on the field. You should have done that privately. Number one. Number two, if I were the commissioner, Doug Eding's would have been sent home after Friday night. He would have been done for the weekend because that behavior and the lying afterwards should never be okay. So here's the deal. The Cardinals won that game. Okay. So what if they hadn't? What if they hadn't? What if this was a meaningful game in September, which it was now, you know, maybe the loss yesterday makes it kind of a lot harder for the Cardinals to get in the playoffs. Let's be honest about that. But at that moment in time, that's a game that started swaying in the other direction and his actions created a whole lot of momentum for the Cardinals to lose that game, which they

1:04:14didn't. So to their credit, they didn't lose. It didn't become a bit, but just because it didn't become a big deal doesn't make his actions less of a big, and I don't know him. I'm not, you know, not condemning him. I'm just saying, you know, I mean, hey, everybody has a bad day and they get, you know, you either get credit for it or you get, you get fine for it or punish for it or whatever. And I think that, again, I'm with you guys. It should be public. I do know that this, I don't want to keep the whole segment on this, but I do know that immediately after that incident, all kinds of former players on social media were like, yep, that's Doug Eding's does this all the time. And one of them was Chipper Jones. So this has been gone on a long time if Chipper's chiming in on it. I saw that and there's, yeah, no, there's, and players know and players support players. I mean, it's it. So despite what everybody says, it's a players game. It's not an umpires game. I mean, maybe when the game was invented by Abner Double Day, it started with the umpires. But right now, it's a players game and they, you know, they have to kind of, they create the culture around the game and the culture is, you know, embracing the fact that it's now

1:05:15an international game. And if, if any majoring umpires spent some time in the Dominican or in South Korea, I mean, I haven't been there, but I've been in the Dominican and Puerto Rico. And I know the game has a different kind of flair there. And if you don't embrace the fact that what 40% of our players are, are Latin players? I mean, I mean, you got to stop that. That's just, it's just not appropriate. All right, buddy. We appreciate it. Have a great game. We'll talk to you on Thursday. You're back, guys. We've got Terry coming up. A lot of uh, Cardinal baseball today. We'll apologize for it. The uh, story about uh, the voice guy Jim Thornton from Wheel of Fortune is, is wild. Uh, wild. Here's what I understand. You guys correct me. Please correct me if I'm wrong. My understanding is that when he was on a flight, someone was sitting behind him looking

1:06:19at his screen. He says that he has been involved in suicide prevention. And there's a website called something, something lifeline.com. And he was trying to go there, but it took him to lifeline.com, which I guess is a site for people who have problems with pedophilia. And I think it's sort of like, hey, let us help you through this buddy kind of a thing. Well, so here's where to find hot kids. Well, not exactly if you had, because you can read the text that's on his computer. And you can see that they're not saying, oh, I'm really struggling. I don't know what to do. And the other people are like, oh, you know, don't your head and ice water. That's what I do. For me, and the thoughts go away or whatever. At one point, an account, I think it might be his account, says that they went to Golden Corral. And it was a quote, all you can eat, boy, Faye. Okay. Yeah. So not great.

1:07:19Not great. Not great for him. Definitely does not back up any of the things that he's saying, almost certainly is lying about all of it. Well, the one big lie was he said, as soon as I went to it, I saw what it was and I left. And the person who was watching him said, I watched him for an hour. Yeah. There are screenshots from numerous points in time. And it's funny enough, one of the screenshots, he says, like, I'm on an airplane doing this. How crazy is that? And all the other guys in the chat room are like, don't do this on an airplane. Very crazy. Don't be in the pedophile chat room in public, man. And he's like, no one's paying attention to me. And turns out somebody was indeed paying attention to him. And he was, you know, he was wearing like, we, we'll affortune merchandise at the time and stuff like all around completely insane thing to be doing. Wow. Wow. Very, very stupid. I'm looking at that chat you're talking about, I do this is insane. It is insane. And somebody says, well, you're on a plane, right? What if someone sees, he's like, what if someone sees a random sequence of lines on a

1:08:23screen? I love it. What? Yeah. Just saying. Just me. Just saying, no one could possibly be looking at and figuring out what I'm doing as somebody sitting directly next to him is like glaring at him and filming it. He says, I'm not touchable. I'm the freaking announcer for Wheel of Fortune. You really think they're ever going to be able to take me down? I tell you what. You said that? No. I was just saying. I was just telling this guy. I was just saying. Well, the thing, yeah, the thing is the story is crazy enough that that is a believable thing to go on to it. But no, he, it's, it's, if you read the text that is on the screen, it's not been modified anyway. It's just a picture of him typing on the, on the chat room. There is absolutely zero chance that he could be thinking mistaken. There's no chance that he thinks that he's in a suicide prevention chat room when people are calling golden corral and all you can eat, boy, Faye. So one of these comments says, I mean, it's not like you're doing anything illegal,

1:09:27LOL. And then the response line is wait till I fire up and it's blacked out. You can't see it because it's probably a site that says wait till I fire that up and start looking at the galleries. He, he, he, this guy said that. Well, if that's his handle, whoever is this Nicholas B 77, which is believed to be his account, which is also the boy, Faye one. Yeah. I saw that, I saw that, uh, that website name, unblered and the website name is literally something like littleboys.com. Oh my God. Like it is again, zero reasonable doubt. There is absolutely no reason to look at what his side of the story and the photos and go, I think he might be telling the truth here. No, it is absolutely beyond any doubt in my opinion. Well, it's also if you just see the screen, that's not a normal, I mean, I don't really go on chat rooms because it's 2026, but, um, that's not really what they look like. So it looks like, it just looks like Toddry and untoward the, the chat room itself.

1:10:32Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah, it's terrible. Yeah, it's not modern. No, it kind of, it kind of looks like a chat room you would envision in the 90s. Yeah, exactly. So it, to me, that says like we're using very bare bones things here because we're doing something that we're not supposed to be doing. Yeah. You're not here for that. Right. Right. Whereas if it was some sort of therapeutic chats, I think they would have it a little bit more together. Oh my Lord. Yes, speaking of 2026, we all have to assume someone's looking at us all the time, right? I mean, you probably, I mean, I don't know, I guess in this case, maybe it's a good thing that he wasn't. Well, yeah, because, you know, we might find out that, you know, some bad stuff was going on, but yeah, I think it's probably pretty wise to, you know, if you're watching a movie that it's appropriate for people that are around you on a plane. It's interesting that the police were called, met him and didn't arrest him. So I guess what he was doing was not illegal, but enough to get you fired from real fortune

1:11:33for sure. Right. Yeah. I guess being in a chat room is probably, unless you're trying to entice someone is probably not in and of itself a crime. And it's interesting. That's interesting. That's interesting. The question of like at what point does that become a crime? And what point is it, one of those things where it's like, you know, intending to, you know, distribute material, what classifies material? I don't know. But I mean, it definitely the right call to fire him from whatever public-facing job he has. Yeah, for sure.

1:12:34Oh man, doing well. Just coming off my birthday weekend, four days off, feeling good. So all good. Look at you. That had to be good. A four-day weekend, birthday. Yeah. Pretty nice. Pretty nice. What's the number if you don't mind me asking? 62. Just turn 62. Well, keep trying to catch me. I don't think you will. I have to apologize to the audience because we're being a little repetitive today. We just talked to Ricky Horton about this about half an hour ago, but it's such an interesting story. And if I'm going to ask anyone, I have to ask Scott Terry, how the whole ring cone tilted had thing hit you? Typical of the day of certain umpires, certain things that go on in baseball, you know, some of these guys are great. And the majority of them are great, but you give somebody some of power, some authority, and sometimes they kind of take it and run with it.

1:13:36And I think obviously this umpire has a reputation. And so it didn't surprise me what he did. And it didn't surprise me that the antics, as they played out throughout the course of the game, I mean, for me, the first thing I noticed before it all happened was the replay call at third base when he came back on and he said, the call has been confirmed. Like how dare you question me and what's wrong with you guys to think that that would be overturned. So, you know, sometimes things aren't good between certain teams and certain umpires. And it gets stoked and it gets played out and things happen through the course of the year. And you can see that there is a little bit of bias. Yes, it's a frustrating thing to a degree Scott, because you're right. It felt like something was off way before the hat thing and way before the blown call at home played and the ejection and all that stuff. And that's where I wonder why we and I don't know how this I don't think it's probably

1:14:37ever been any different, but this is where I think Major League baseball needs to step in in a public way. And make it be known this guy's getting two games off unpaid because of the way he was conducting himself, because you can't have people wondering if there's bias. And that came across whether there was or wasn't in his calls. That looked like he had a grudge. Well, you know, a player gets suspended because of his conduct on the field. He did something during the course of a game that merited that suspension. And umpire does the same thing. He should get the same treatment and it should be handled in the same way. So why have things always been different in that regard? I don't know. You know, I don't know. It's it's difficult for a player because you always feel like well, the umpires aren't policed. They don't have to answer for what they do, but yet they can make or break me on a given day. And that makes it frustrating for a player. So I've always wondered this. So not not even this in particular event because it was kind of a weird one. But in general, players fight with umbs.

1:15:40Managers definitely fight with umbs. And with John Boyne's stuff, we now know what they say. And it's a lot of MF your mother and things like that. Like, I've always wondered how you just walk back out there the next day with your lineup card and be like, Hey, Larry, how you doing, man? Like, do they? Does everyone just know that's part of the game or are there apologies? Like how's it work? Uh, you have to. You don't really have a choice because if you carry it with you the next day or the next game, then it's just going to come back and bite you. Uh, I had a guy in AAA when I was in Denver and Denver is a tough place to pitch because you can lose a game and a heart beat there with the way the ball flies. And I had a guy and I threw a two two slider to a to a guy that was strike three. The batter started walking off. The catcher rolled the ball out. The everybody was moving and the umpire said, Oh, and it was like, Oh my gosh. You know, and I at the time I can't let that affect me because now it's three two.

1:16:40I still need to throw another pitch. Well I threw two or three more pitches. He fouled them off. He fouled them off. He fouled them off. He ended up hitting a two run homer. So the next thing you know, I go from leading the game to losing the game and I'm walking off the field. And once again, the umpires over on the third baseline. I'm walking towards the third base dugout and you can't let people see, uh, you know, that you're talking to him because you don't want to show him up. And so when I left the mound, I started talking to him. I forget what his name was, but I was calling by his first name. And I said, just tell me you missed the two, two call. That's all you got to do is just tell me, I don't expect you to be perfect. We all make mistakes. You know, just let me know that you missed the call. And he kept saying, no, Scott, I didn't miss it. No, Scott, I didn't miss it. And I said, well, you've got until I get to the dugout steps to tell me that you missed it. And if you don't tell me, then I'm going to walk to the end of the dugout and I'm going to be right back out here. Well, I didn't miss it. So I walked into the dugout.

1:17:41I put my glove down. I took my hat off, put it on my glove and I ran out of the end far into the dugout, ran up and just got right in his face. And we just had a nice little conversation. And I'm just yelling stuff. And my manager comes out to try to get between me and him. And I took my manager and I just threw him off to the side. What I didn't know is I threw him on the ground. But that was the one time in my career where I just lost it. Even though I was still in control, I lost it and I just went off on this dude. And finally, after I had my say, I went into the dugout and I threw every helmet out of the dugout and they were all spinning at home, played around his feet. And then in Denver, back in those days, we were playing in my high. The door to our clubhouse was in right field and it was on the field. So when I got kicked out and I left the third base dugout, it must have taken me 10 minutes to get to that door. Man, that sucks. But it was just I lost the game on one call.

1:18:43Well, you can say, well, you gave up a pitch that he hit out. You can say all this stuff. It's like the 85 World Series when Lincoln's your made the call. They can say, well, you had two more games or you had another game or you had the rest of that. Yeah, but still, you can't get it back. But you know, I never had a problem with the guy after that when I came out the next day. It was what it was. It lingers inside of you. It is there. It will hang over you. It will hang over the team. It will hang over that umpire. Everybody will know when he's on the field that you got to be careful. There might be an issue. I mean, I know, you know, it's just that way. So I don't think I've ever yelled at anyone like that. Did I feel pretty good? It was awesome. And the good thing was that back in those days, I did snuff. So he was wearing it. He got the wearing some snuff. I don't know if he liked school or not, but he got him a baseball. And yeah, I said things that I didn't think I had in me to say, but boy, they just came

1:19:47shp you and out and it was like and then after it was all done, you know, I'm just, you're just, you know, you're just so bent up. You're so bent up because, you know, baseball, people say, well, it's just a game. Well, no, it's not just a game. It's my livelihood. This is my job. This is, I've put a full year into it. You know, when you play that six month season, everybody forgets about the six months leading up to that season. And it's just there's so much on the line and so much at stake that boy, when it erupts, it heads up. Yeah, I think, you know, I think if you just want to explain it, Scott, if it's your own job and somebody is screwing it up by not doing their job well, I bet you get the same kind of anger now in an office. You can't go scream at people, but it's a little different on a ball field, but it's the same idea. Yeah, and you know what rang to me with this guy that happened there in Denver with the edding is he said, you're not going to dress or wear your hat that way on my field.

1:20:49Yeah, and as soon as he said, my field boy, I had a whole bunch of memories come back because you question an empire and it's his strike zone. Right. There's a rule book. There's a rule book to govern what we do, how we play, what we call, what's being done. And the rule book states very clearly what the strike zone is. But yet they will tell you this is my strike zone. Joe West told me one night, Scott, you're not getting that strike tonight. Excuse me, Joe, but you just said it was a strike. Yeah. You know, so and we had a lot of stuff going on back in the day, you know, because if you were a rookie boy, that zone was tied if people rose was up. There wasn't even a zone. There was a keyhole, Mike Smith, you know, and it mattered who was hitting and it mattered who was pitching and it mattered who the empire was. But yet you had a rule book that says this is the strike zone. Yeah, that's it. That's where I was going to go next, Scott, because to me, this ties the two things together, the way it's always been, you know, with the individualized

1:21:53strike zone, it's a different strike zone for Greg Maddox than it was for brick, ankle, or whatever. But like, this is also a case where this man dug endings admitted after the game, but oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, C.C. Sebastian used to wear his hat like that all the time. Well, you didn't say anything to the Hall of Famer, but you're going to pick on the rookie. Like that, to me, is where it really gets weird and the same thing with what you're talking about and how the strike zone used to be variable. I thought we were trying to get rid of that stuff. Yeah, and of course they have been able to do most of that with the strike zone, obviously, with the system that they have now. But to be able to take care of the rest of it and, you know, with the challenge, now all of a sudden, you know, that helps. But, you know, the play later in the game, the other day, with the guy at home plate, which was obvious that he was out because his hand that was leading to home plate is what got stuck on the glove with the ball in it. It was very obvious that he was out, but yet he calls him safe. Now, because you don't have a challenge, that's where you say, oh, okay.

1:22:56And I can guarantee you, I won't use any names. And, you know, if you want to say I'm wrong, that's fine. I can tell you over the years, I saw umpire stick it to people. I really did. And when you stick it to somebody, it's intentional. Interesting. Now, I'm not saying what the guy did yesterday or the other day was intentional. I'm just saying I witnessed it. I saw it because I was in uniform and back in those days, it was a whole lot different than it is now where you had to kind of like earn your stripes, sort of speak. Yeah. You know, my first start was in Rigglyfield with the wind blowing out. And Bruce Frimming was the umpire. And I was a rookie. And that did not go well. And I guarantee you that zone was skintight. I mean, it was just keyhole. I don't know how many pitches I threw that I thought were strikes, but he called them balls. And the next thing I know after three innings and I've given up nine runs, I'm going.

1:24:00Now, I can say, okay, I threw every pitch, but I can also say, if I'm getting squeezed at Rigglyfield with the wind blowing out, it's not going to be a good day. And nope, not at all. That's why I love that. That's not a good breath of pitch. All right, buddy. Thank you so much. We appreciate it. Hey, you're welcome, Dave. Always good to talk to you. You guys have a great week. You too, bud. You too. Welcome back to UTS on Camelax. I'm making this up. Did I see that this year Halloween night is when we turn the clocks back? They can't be right, right? I don't know. Let's look it up. When does that be kind of cool? Halloween's on a weekend. But we turn the clocks back usually on a Sunday. Well, it is November 1st. Well, so it is it's Halloween night. Okay. Fun. So you get to relive 1 a.m.

1:25:01over again. Basically, it is or is it too? I think it's too. Because I think it happens to three. Still, I smell a horror movie. A horror. There's room for everything. You got a whole extra hour. I could ever move you. Yeah, that's been kind of cool. I saw this story again and it blows me away every time I read it. But I've looked it up. I've researched it way more than I do regular stuff. Evidently, when you shuffle a deck of cards, 52 cards, the order they are in has never happened before. And will never happen again. There will never be two deck shuffles, the proper shuffle. Not just cutting them that come out the same. I'm not a Neil deGrasse Tyson guy, but he has a really great video. You can just find on YouTube if you search Neil deGrasse Tyson playing cards. Where he explains that it's like if you

1:26:03gave a trillion people a deck of cards and had them shuffle at a trillion times per second across like a trillion universes, it would still be like several trillion years before any of those were ever replicated. Like it is an impossible to fathom number. And it sounds like I'm making that up. I'm really not. Watch if you watch the video. It's absolutely incredible. Crazy. Just crazy. Also for people like me who fear dementia and all timers because it's in your family or for me, I have the genetic marker. There's a new, they're calling it a surgery, I guess it's invasive, where they almost literally flush the bad proteins out of your brain. They're really figuring out now that it's these toxic proteins that gather in your brain, create the plaque, slow everything down, cut off memories, that they think they have a way to flush it out. That could stop dementia and maybe even reverse it and get you back to where you were.

1:27:08That's very cool. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Also, I can't believe this isn't a bigger story, but I read this morning that there's evidence that Benjamin Netanyahu was given in very specific warning about October 7th, but he didn't share it with his military. So that's going to be a thing. Also, Iran has captured an unmanned US submarine near the Strait of Hormuz. The Pentagon has confirmed saying there was a malfunction with one of our underwater drones, but there's picture of it up now on Drudge. So do you think with stuff like, you know, October 7th and Netanyahu or like 9-11 and Bush, do you think it's just you get so many like your intelligence people get so many like terror attack, you know, like warnings or whatever and you just have to you just ignore the wrong one basically.

1:28:10And that's what happens. Maybe. Yeah, what was the, what was that? The, because I remember Kondaleezza Rice did was doing the presentation about how they were given some warning and it was like really obvious that something was coming and they just disregarded it. Yeah, there's also, they call it an insta doc and it's on Netflix right now. And it's a 30 minute documentary about the plane switching thing with Trump and an interview, you know, the interview a bunch of people from the press and they, and it's pretty interesting. And it's professionally done. It's not, you know, made up, but they just kind of go through here is what happened. Here's how it happened and so forth. Yeah, the Kondaleezza Rice thing was, uh, apparently on August 6th, 2001, the memo that they received was quote, bin Laden determined to strike in the US. Yeah. And then literally, you know, less than a month later, it happened. Yeah. By the way, Ray Chennai are going to do the first leg of the 9-11 walk this Friday,

1:29:13which starts at Mike Duffy's over by the Esquire, uh, goes to Art Hill, which I can't wait to see in person with all the flags out there. Uh, if any of you guys want to join us, you know, we look like, so come on out and just say, hey, march to the arch.com. There you go. Yeah. Now, KMOX weather from the Selica heating and cooling weather desk. Lots of loving. This is your big day. Welcome back to EG Ass-Un, KMOX. Happy Tuesday, 3.34 day. Murray time. Hello, Dave. Hello there. So you guys have a big surf out in California. Oh, yeah. Yes. And are you ready for this? Sure. We're in a real solid tropical air mass. Does not happen very often. We're 99 today. Damn.

1:30:13What? And it's, and it's like, the, you know, two point is like 73. It's really gross. You know, it's really gross. But it's funny to say that, Dave, because I had, uh, Avalon, Catalina Island, because of the, and, uh, it was always 60 to 70. And today I'm just having to look at it. It was like 86. And I'm like, well, that seems weird. So that is weird. It's very weird. The surface has been seven to 10 feet. It has really pounded like Malibu, a round Los Angeles coast of Los Angeles. Yeah. Uh, we've had, you know, a lot of beach erosion, a lot of the waves have gotten into homes right along the coast. I mean, up like two through, two or three feet. Yeah. And it just keeps pounding and pounding. It goes, it really starts to melt away late, really tonight and then it calms down for about two weeks. It's just a, is it a, a lot of surfers or no surfers? Very few. It's the guys and women who, it's a two-phase thing.

1:31:13It's, it's guys who really know what they're doing. And maybe still should be out there, but they are. And then there's guys who should be out there and they really know what to do. Gotcha. But it's, it's pretty intense. And it's, and it's a little bit different. It's like one set will come in and it might be 10 feet. And then it calms down to like three or four feet for about 10 minutes. And then all of a sudden, just just like, Wow. It comes another 10 footer. So you really have to pay attention. And, and they're, they're what we call these sneaker waves that kind of come out of nowhere. And they can be instead of right along it. Let's say at a normal point on the coast, all of a sudden they're like 10 feet inland. Damn. And they're still a wave. And, and it takes away people all the time. Hawaii still be a hit. Hawaii got hit pretty good. I haven't seen any video coming out of there yet. But Nehaau, which is, is solely a Hawaiian island. It's where, where locals only live, a native Hawaiians.

1:32:15And then Kauai. So you have Kauai and then Nehaau is right next to that. Those two islands got hit really hard, I think. overnight last night and into this morning. Heavy rains, really throughout the island change. But it's pulling away now. That system low is pulling away. That's good. Could have been a lot, lot worse. Okay. And we're still looking at a couple more days, right? Yeah, but it's not too bad. I mean, we're 90, 192 right now. The dew points about 60. So yeah, temperatures are up a little bit, but the humidity's not too too bad. It kind of creeps up on us as we go through the overnight and into tomorrow. But a cool front's on the way. This one's a little stronger. And that means that, you know, probably come through, let's say about two, three o'clock tomorrow afternoon. Winds will turn to the northwest. Might be a couple of spotty thunderstorms ahead of that front, but most of the rain showers and thunderstorms behind the front. That's just where the physics are right now. And so we'll be in the 90s tomorrow, but then we'll cool off as the rain starts to pop.

1:33:16I think we have a pretty good rain across the area. The showers and some thunderstorms. It's not a severe weather outbreak, but there will be areas of heavy downpours of rain, thunder, lightning, maybe some small hail and gusty winds. So that's not for everybody. That's around Wednesday night. It's into Thursday too. And it could be around for a good portion of Thursday, because it's all behind the front, front's pretty slow moving. But it's 84 for the high on Thursday, Friday's gorgeous, mostly sunny and 85 degrees. And I think we're mainly in the 80s over the weekend. There are some signs. It could be a little unsettled, but I just want to go with some spot showers Saturday and Sunday. But in the 80s, okay, excellent. We're starting to break. We're starting to break the back. Before we do headlines, have you guys heard Donald Trump's hot dog grift? You heard about this? What? So at least one of his courses, and it could be multiple, but at least one of them, he's very proud of the hot dogs. And so at a certain whole, he has the head chef come out and make hot dogs.

1:34:20And he gives them to the secret service guys. Sounds pretty nice. And he's like, Chef, these are the best dogs you're ever going to have. Give them to give that guy three. He's a big guy. Give him three dogs. And then he started building the secret service. So he doesn't buy them and doesn't comp them. He sends a bill and charges the US government for his hot dogs. Oh, give him four, give him five. He's got to do that. Tell you what, guys always making money. Always using all your impulse money to make money for himself. Go into your neighbors for a barbecue and then when you're leaving, they hands you a bill. Yeah, yeah. I think this is what you ate and the you drank. This is what you owe me. That lunch, right? Yeah, Dave Marie's weather was sponsored by Scott Credit Union. And I did want to just update folks. I think we might have given out some information that wasn't accurate in the last segment.

1:35:20The March to the Arch. The March to the Arch starts at Mike Duffy's pub and grill at Clayton and Woods Mill in Chesterfield at 9.11 AM on Friday. Again, you can find all the information on March to the Arch at March to the Arch.com. We'd have been pretty lonely there on Friday morning. Wouldn't wait. One by an Esquire would have been having a time bagel being like, where did this is so messed up? No one showed up. Okay, speaking of 9.11 decades after 9.11, toxic dust and PTSD may be accelerating brain aging among first responders. They've been doing some studies that measure brain structures using MRI scans and estimating participants brain ages and on average, first responders with PTSD had brains that appeared about three years older than their chronological age. And then the estimated brain damage of those first responders that didn't report PTSD,

1:36:20approximately matched their actual chronological age. Did you see the story today that Mamdani released previously undisclosed records that show that officials misled the public about air quality at ground zero? No. Yeah. I saw that Giuliani said that he, Mamdani should not be in New York on 9.11 because it would be offensive. Okay. Whatever. But people picked flights, I guess, over anything. But I find that to be pretty disturbing that people in charge knew there were serious issues with the air quality and they covered it up. I mean, this says flat out, the quote says, misled the public. Should there not be any consequences? If that's really the case, yeah, for the people that misled the public, especially now that we're hearing all these long-term health issues. Okay. Scientists think that clues about aliens may lie on the moon.

1:37:23So they want to do tests on different dust particles because they think that dust could have drifted across space and settled into the lunar surface. Oh. So they're doing this testing and they're like, if we can find one spec of just like genuine alien dust, it would just rewrite our understanding of life in the universe. Well, it's ours. So we can, the moons are, yes. Yeah, it's our dust. It's our dust. I mean, we are the only people to bend there. Yeah. I feel so bad for the family of Dolly Parton right now because they say that fake AI garbage is making the singer's death even more painful. There is a wave of AI-generated songs, images, videos, and they say it's challenging to absorb and shows a lack of compassion towards grieving families. I mean, just maybe take a second and think if your loved one passed away and then someone was just using their image,

1:38:26making them, even if it's, you're not making them do something negative, but you're just making them do things they didn't actually do. And without their permission. Right. I mean, the whole thing is just very messed up. And even if that wouldn't bother you, even if for some reason that wouldn't bother you, could you maybe just find it in your heart to understand why it would bother others? I wonder what the diagnosis of that is. Because I have certainly done things wrong. I've certainly let people down. I've hurt people's feelings. But I've never truly, never in my life sat down and thought, what can I do that really mean? You know? And clearly these people do. Well, it's not even necessarily that they're making negative content about Dolly. It's more they look at the situation and they say, this is an opportunity for me to make money. Right. So even if it's not like disparaging her, they are profiting off of her image and likeness at a very vulnerable time, her death.

1:39:26Yeah. And it's just very classless and wrong. Very wrong. Um, we'll see one more story here. Not as wrong as I was about Mike Duffies, but they're both wrong. I mean, I just wanted to correct the, in case people were like, oh, wow, that's right by my work. Maybe I'll do it. I just wanted to correct the folks. One more story for you guys. The TSA is launching a program allowing non-travelers past security in some airports. Saw that. It's called gate side by TSA precheck. So if you're an eligible TSA precheck member, you could enter the secure area of participating airports to meet or see off friends and family at their gates. Remember that Dave? No, that happened all the time. Yeah. I mean, you didn't even think about it. Nope. Coming to our going. Yeah. No, I got home when I went to Sydney for the 2000 Olympics, come home, get off the plane and there's my wife and daughter waiting. You know, the kid comes running up to you at the gate. That was pretty cool. Yeah, this is obviously. That's not happening. Well, maybe now it will be.

1:40:27It definitely changed after the September 11th terrorist attacks. But they're doing this, this kind of pilot program in several airports and they'll see if it expands. Yeah. I mean, I think the, the added layer of, well, they have TSA precheck. They don't have a boarding pass, but they've at least been through the screening process that maybe makes people feel. I don't know if they've done it yet, but I had heard that they were talking about getting rid of the 3.4 ounces thing. They had been talking about that. At least while, while Kristi Nome was, was running things, which that's been a while now. So I don't know if that's been tabled or what. Yeah. I've never, I've never understood the whole thing. Like the only way we're going to get attacked again is by the same method that was used before. It's probably going to be something else. I don't know. Yeah, I guess we're going to overreact. But 25 years. I get it. Because we're saying it's 25 years. And at some point, like other countries aren't doing that anymore.

1:41:27They did it for a time. And now they don't feel like there's the big threat. So they have relaxed it. Yeah. Thank you, Nate. Appreciate it. You got it. Well, back to EGS 352. Matt Polly joins us at the top of the hour. So Andrew, you talk yourself into and out of living in an RV over the weekend? Yeah. Yeah. You moved in. But I'm a fast. But on the, you know, minimalist living journey. What did you almost live in? Well, just was looking at. So I thought RV sounded like more fun. Right. Which it does. But what, like, you know, the ability to kind of pick up and move wherever you want from time to time, you know, switch up the. Switch up the area around you a little bit, whatever that might be. But the issue, the real issue is that.

1:42:29Wife and I are still relatively young. Not young, but you know, relatively young. And when you buy like, you know, when you live in like a house that appreciates over time, or at least it would ideally if you're taking good care of it or whatever, but RV that's going to depreciate instantly. Like the second that you get into that thing, it's going to drop, you know, 60, 70% of what you already paid, which is, you know, which it would be used so lower even than that. And then it's just going to depreciate further and further and further and further down. And when the time comes to move from that, which we would presumably have to in the next, you know, 50, 60 years, whatever, then, you know, whatever you invested in it basically is going to just go away in a puff of smoke instead of being returned in any fashion, you know what I mean? So while I do still think it sounds very fun, definitely do not think it's probably the best idea for somebody who's, you know, who is more excited in New York Megan?

1:43:32Well, it was my idea first and I talked to her and she was very against it and then she came around like very, very came around to thinking that it would be a very good idea. But the more we thought about it, the more we were like, no, actually maybe, maybe not. So we're all a little weekend. It's like you don't, you have to like empty the sewage and stuff. Yeah, that was the, before we thought about the like, yeah, before we, because in Eddie out in front of Dave's house, before we thought about like the actual practical logistics of like, you know, looking forward to it financially into our future, it was absolutely the poop thing that was the number one, usually is. I need to have a phone around in our phone.

1:44:33Look at that guys. DJ S on K, MO X, few minutes past 4 p.m. Good to be back to the four day weekend over my birthday weekend. Really, really good. Had a lot of fun. Matt Polly joins us from the sports department. It's up brother. Happy you belated. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. Yeah, we've been talking about sports. We talked a lot of sports already and when you're on, I like talking about stuff that's not sports because that's all you can do is talk about sports. Someone said closed captioning. Are you guys closed caption people? No, I totally am. So distracting. Yeah, I know, because I know that's a thing now. Like a lot of people just like having it on. I've never understood it. It's a big Gen Z thing I understand because it allows you to scroll and then peak up as opposed to. Yeah, sometimes I just can't hear what they're saying very well or it's, it's just not clear. So I like to have it on and I help, I feel like it helps me follow the story better. But if it's a comedy or especially stand up comedy, I turn it off because sometimes see it before he says it. Yeah, and then he's going to ruin any joke. So yeah, it's pretty,

1:45:36you know, like TV audio generally is pretty bad. But it's pretty remarkable. We've bought a couple, $30 sound bars off Amazon and the quality of those things are what like $300 sound bars were not that long ago. Yeah, it's you can really get a good sound from a pretty cheap sound bar off Amazon. What has not gone down technologically speaking price wise. Yeah, phones. Yeah, phones are going up. Fones are going up everything else. Sound systems TVs come down like when you get a first so cheap. I know like when 4k TVs first came out, it's like, oh boy, you know, get a new mortgage. And now it's like, man, I can get one of those at Costco. Pretty cheap. Not a big TV. So Walmart bought was it Vizio? So yeah, so like, so you always see, I think, I think it's Vizio. You always see Vizio TVs priced like $10, $15 cheaper than the other TVs at Walmart. What they where they make the money is their monitor

1:46:38in you on this stuff because it's their operating system on these smart TVs. So they then make money on the other side because they're able to get data and everything. See, that's a thing that this is a, I saw a story about this within the last month where that's one of the hidden things with smart TVs is that their default settings basically allow them to collect all your data on what you're watching and all that stuff. And there's apparently a way to go into your settings and change it so that that doesn't happen. But who does that and who knows it and who even looks it up? With what I'm watching, the only conclusion they can come to is I've never seen a naked woman. Because it's just ancient aliens and every dork show that you can think of just one after another lined up there like this boy guy. And to be clear, the story I saw was about LG TVs doing this. Gotcha. Yeah. That's got you. Have you guys seen the case of the mother in Virginia that let

1:47:43her five year old walk a half a mile and a gated community. And she was charged and convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a minor insanity. Yeah. They, so they have their own little private security force. And someone, the kid had been saying, Hey, mom, I want to do this. She said, Okay, you know, where are you going? Okay, blah, blah, blah. So he takes off thinking about half of the way. And a security guard stopped him, took him back home, said, this is not okay. She said, was there like an HOA thing? I don't understand. They said, Oh, well, if you want to get technical about it, it's illegal. We'll call the police. They did. She got charged and she was convicted. And she was sentenced to a year in jail, which they suspended. So she didn't have to do any time. But yeah. That's crazy. I mean, the ridiculousness of it is almost jarring because I walked further than that to kindergarten when I was the same age. And we did it every day. Same. Yeah. Every day. And it wasn't a gated community. I mean, you

1:48:46didn't have a main street to cross. It was just, you know, a neighborhood street or two. And then you'd get up to a big field and you walk across the field. But I mean, it was more than a half a mile every day at the same age. Yeah. And we all did it. I can literally everybody. South Roxana. They had a whole softball team of pedophiles there. I mean, she, she had picture. She has been placed on these states child abuse and neglect registry. And she will be there for seven years. That's insane. It could prevent her from getting a law license. And she might not be able to volunteer in her kid's school because she's on this list. How is this constitutional? Like, how is it okay to make a law that says you can't let your kid do something like walk to school? And I'm, I have a seven year old and a two year old. So I'm trying to think, I don't know if I let my seven year old, I understand not letting them do that. But I set at the same time, the punishment doesn't seem to fit. I don't even want to say the crime because I'm not convinced. Such an extreme crime. And I think we're, I think about when I was growing up and just, you know,

1:49:51and I'm not that old. I'm in my 40s year old. Okay. I'm old. He took a shot. So I would leave the house. I would be gone for hours, you know, in the woods and everything around the phone. No, no. And I would feel very uncomfortable with my kids doing that now despite the fact that that's the experience I had growing up. And I loved that experience growing up. And again, it to me, if the parent is uncomfortable with that, that's fine. I'm not saying every kid should be allowed to do that. Some kids are different than others too. Some kids are very independent and they're, you know, alert and they can walk a half mile in a gated community. Some kids probably, I wouldn't trust. I mean, you got to know your own kid. This is about essentially what we're talking about as a nanny state, where your city or your state or whatever they're going to tell you what you can deem a safe activity for your kid to engage in just walking down the street. I feel bad for the parent because they may be a pariah and that like, I mean, that's just awful.

1:50:52The life that now needs to be lived, where this has been so publicized. I'm saying about pick up at school and things like that. That's an embarrassing sort of thing. Yeah, to what Rachel said, I think it was her child will be in like seventh grade or something before she's allowed to go to the classroom and volunteer. That's just, I mean, we under punish so many things. And we're going to, we're going to basically ruin a mom's life for the next seven years over something that basic. She didn't beat her kid. She didn't hurt her kid. She didn't make her kid do manual labor for punishment. She let her kid walk a half a mile in a gated community. Yeah, 24 hour security. I mean, 25 mile per hour speed limit. Three golf courses, like, come on. What's the line either? Like, what if it was four houses down? Hey, can you go pick up a thing of eggs and butter from the neighbor? We don't have it. Like, can the kid walk four houses? Can the kid walk up like apparently not because this this security guard told her a five-year-old

1:51:56child should never be unsupervised ever. Are you kidding me? So I guess our the standard has completely changed. I mean, but where does it say that in the law? You know, like, I mean, apparently it says it somewhere because she's been found guilty of a level two neglect. But where do they spell out like, yeah, I mean, are you allowed to let them go out in the yard by themselves? So I grew up completely feral. You know, I'm from the generation of, you know, we'll see you tonight when the street lights. And it was great. And I loved it. I would never want anything else. But Nick and especially Phoebe were on a much shorter leash. And I've always attributed that to the television shows and such about kids being kidnapped. And, you know, I forget the name of them. But what, you know, we all know what I'm talking about. And my generation freaked out. Where did I go? My God. Yeah. Where's that? Was it Walsh? Is that that show? Yeah. That was

1:52:58the big one. Yeah. And I had a big on air tussle with Dr. Tim Jordan, who is a pediatric psychiatrist. And his point was you are harming your kids. Let them go feral. There are so few predators out there. They're not going to get raped. They're not going to get killed. The chances are tiny. But the chances of them not growing up the way they should if you keep them in a tin can are 100%. And we went back and forth and back and forth. Right. So I mean, yeah, it's, I understand being more cautious because so was I. I mean, I understand it. But some of it is also because as you get, like, what I have given my kid a little bit more of that freedom, if every kid in the neighborhood also had that freedom, not as I, not as it keeping up with the Joneses, but that they all kind of get it. You know, like in our neighborhood, all of us were the same. We all had, you know, some of us say you had to be home at eight others. It was dark others. It was dinner. Like we had all

1:53:59little bit different rules, but we were all free to kind of wander the neighborhood during the day, especially during the summer. We all walked to school together in kindergarten, first, second, and third grade because it was right down at the end of the road. And it was probably close to a mile away unless my sense of distance at that time was just worse. And I don't remember remembering it, but I can think of it now. It's got to be at least the distance we're talking about here. And I didn't let my kid do that. But nobody else in the neighborhood, it was either if I looked around and saw all the other kids doing that, I'm in like, I would have been more comfortable because everybody being together on the same page is part of what makes safety, right? If it's just one kid doing it, well, that's probably a little less safe than 20 kids. Yeah. Yeah. Just to get the guy out of the guy duct taped to his seat on an airline. And who knows, who knows? But he was kind of a real guy. He was 67. He was a very successful real estate agent. He had a lot of money. And he was drunk drunk. And he started assaulting the passenger next to him. Like,

1:55:04he's a game. And then when the flight attendants tried to intervene, I guess he was using like slurs with them. So yeah, this photo is pretty incredible of him. It's pretty great. Straft to a seat with the duct tape. I had put in my show prep Dave. Like, I have no problem with the way American airlines handled this passenger because he was being violent and he needed to be subdued. But doesn't it seem like there should be a more official way of dealing with this stuff? They have maybe have some straps on the plane. Like, some of these on the line. The duct tape will just, you know, strap them down. By the way, that happened because of passengers jumping in. I think it was a guy who is either a current or former police officer that went and jumped in the seat next to him and basically took charge. Yeah. And another guy helped as well. Like, so why it's on the passengers? Understandably, you're going to need help because the flight crew's so small. But yeah, you would think there'd be something better than just go get the duct tape. Yeah. I had the situation kind of back from Florida where they had to take somebody off the flight

1:56:05because they were like rambling craziness. And the all the passengers around, stargain freaked out and they went and it was a very uncomfortable situation because I heard the past, the fly tends to basically say, if you don't come with us, we're going to have to take everybody off this plane and forcibly remove you. And that was finally what got the woman off the plane. But when you're in, so when you're like three rows back about this happening, it is so incredibly uncomfortable. Yeah. We done. I mean, you want to hang on? We'll be back. We'll be back. We'll be back. DJ S and Camel Wax happy Tuesday. We're doing a short little thing tomorrow. I can't believe sea mores making us come in for this. I mean, it's from one to one 45. I would think that the sports guys could just do it. But oh, hey, we're on the air.

1:57:07Just talking to myself there for a second. I'll trade you. You do my West Coast game. Coast games. You can go to all cover one, one, four, five tomorrow without a problem. You can go to ACDC with Nick tonight. Okay. Or you could go to see Manson and Zombie with us tomorrow. I'd rather it actually I would have really liked to have been able to go to the ACDC food. Food fires more than ACDC to be honest with you. I would love to see them in concert. I never have. And it's obviously not happening. I've got to work tonight. But I lament the fact that I will not be there tonight. Yeah. I'm looking forward to both. I've seen them both a couple of times. And together is just how are the foods live? Are they good? We're really good. Yeah. I know ACDC is. Yeah. I've seen food in probably 10 years. Okay. But they were great. Okay. Before. I guess familiar with the United Nations Accurate World Map? Have you seen this? Mm-hmm. The one that's not what we see on the globe. It's a little bit more like the country sizes are different than what they look like on a globe. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Because we're looking at a sphere. Right. And we've always known the size of the continents. Right. And turns out they are

1:58:13very off. Yeah. For example, we're used to Africa and Greenland being about the same size. Yeah. You can fit 14 Greenlands into Africa. Right. So the UN developed or someone developed this map. It's scientists said this is accurate. And the UN said, hey, we should adopt this. And the vote was 164 to one. Oh, no. Guess who voted against it? It would be us. We did. So yeah, we got that going for us. Why would we vote against it since it's all based on actual square footage as opposed to what it looks like on a globe? I mean, do we look smaller in the whole thing? Yeah. Yeah. Everybody does. But like, you know, it's a continent though. It's not like the country of Africa is the superpower. Like it's a continent. Why are you threatened by this? Or, you know, I'm not speaking to anybody in particular here. But what's threatening about the size of a continent? I don't know. It's weird. But I think what happens if I'm understanding it correct, if I remember it correctly is all of the globe maps dramatically under represent how big Africa is. Like if you take

1:59:20the United States, I think India, like seven kind of like they all fit inside the foot map of the square footage of Africa. Yeah. And on maps, it wouldn't necessarily be able to tell that. Yeah. On the on the old school style. Yeah. Why would anybody worry about that? Like the square footage is what it is guys. I mean, it's not like an opinion based thing. It's just is what it is. Yeah. Why would you? But I think a lot of it, like the theory that people had is like the Western world likes to inflate itself. The other is it an industry thing? Because I would bet we sell more maps and more globes in the United States than probably a lot of other countries. Is there a commercial aspect to this as well? We're all of a sudden big globe has to go throw bone away. A lot of maps. I got a Ross now. There's going to be nothing but with dot buck 50 globes in there that are the old ones. Do we need you guys own a globe currently? No. No. But I bet you had one

2:00:22in the 90s. Had one was a kid for sure. We never had one in our house. Really? No. I don't know if we ever had we had in our classroom. We never had in our house. We had our classroom but they're flat. It's going to rally house and they've got all the jerseys out front and clearance of people who are no longer on the team anymore. There you go. Yeah. That's what it will be now. Yeah. Little Africa. We have 45 seconds. What do you think of the zoo? It was good. I mean they're supposed to. They were playing Arkansas Pine Bluff. So it was good. Quarterback was good. Let's see what it looks like. Move it forward. Got rival. Read that next one. Yeah. You got to do a little against Kansas. I think Kansas is favored. Are they? I think so. Kansas isn't bad, which I hate saying, but Kansas isn't bad. Yeah. I think I'm going to double check real quick, but I think they are. What was the experience of going to Lawrence for you being case they got? I liked it. No, I'm a zoo's favorite. You know, the football experience wasn't great. They've redone the stadium there. So it's different now. I haven't been to that. But I mean going as much as I hate KU being in Lawrence fieldhouse

2:01:22or not. I don't feel how sick. She was in Lawrence for a basketball game. That's a really cool experience. Pretty cool. Yeah. Pretty cool. Yeah. Bring it is yet to do it. So she has to go this year. Yeah. For sure.