Full Show 10-2-26

0:00The recap show is an inside look into the world of global soccer and women sports. Follow and listen to the recap show wherever you get your podcasts. I don't welcome in to DGS on a Friday. It is one of seven. Dave off today. He's in Lawrence Kansas or at least on the way there. I don't know if he's there. I'm guessing they're on the way more so than there. I don't know. I was asking on what time they were leaving today. And I think that was still T. We. Do you guys have yesterday either there or on the way to Lawrence Kansas for parents weekend this weekend? Man, I think I brought this up last year when we did it, but I as a parent and actually

1:05as a parent, I liked parents weekend more than I liked it when I was the student. Oh, I bet. Yeah. I know. I was the student. I liked it. Yeah. But I was the student. Now my parents only did it once because it was really far away. Right. They lived up in Michigan. I was in college in Miami. So that wasn't like an every year trip. I'm sure if it was closer, it would have been because you want to see your kid. But man, I remember it being like, can't go out. Gotta do this. Gotta go to this function. Gotta go to that as a student. It was the worst. As a parent, it's fine. I did it a couple of times. I think we did it once or twice down at BAM. It was pretty good. It's crowded though. And as Dave pointed out in Lawrence, it's everything's expensive. Hotels are expensive and all that. So we just stayed. I think we stayed in Tupelo, Mississippi. When you had parents day, did you meet the the Boulder and the mountain? That's the rocks parents. What? Are you talking about what I was in? Yeah, when you had parents day.

2:08He was he's workshopping something. You should have worked that out a little bit more. All I really know about Kevin in college is that he went to college with the rocks. Yeah, the rock was there. He was there. He was there. I think a year ahead of me, maybe one or two years ahead of me. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, all the time. Yeah. But at that time, he was just a football player. And he was good, but he wasn't like the star football player. He played. He was in the rotation on the defensive line, but he wasn't like the dude. He was a disappointment to his father at the mountain. Come on. His mom was the Boulder. His mom was the Boulder, yeah. What are you doing? Starting Friday already with the goofy. Yeah. Yeah. And again, that's it's such one of those weird things that of all the people. Like think about that when you're in a college setting, right? All these people that you see, somebody's, you know, some of them are going to be super wealthy. Some of them are going to be bosses. Some of them are going to be dorks like me. But you know, the guy that's a football player and known like, you know, he's a big guy walking

3:11around campus. People know who all the football players are. Nobody would have been like, yep, that guy right there. He's going to be one of the most famous people on planet earth in about 15 years. He's going to become the tooth fairy. I mean, he's literally everything, right? Like he's everything to everyone. Did you see that movie? No. Okay. Good. I was about to worry. No, yeah, because that was like a little girl. I think a kid's movie. Yeah, it is. It is. And again, for him, you know, he's got a good sense of humor. That's fine. You know, like have fun. It's just not something I'm going to go see. Right. Actually, I missed a lot of his movies. I don't know that I've ever, okay, I've seen Baywatch because that was playing when I was still going and like reviewing movies. So I saw it for free because I had to, but I don't know that I've seen another one of his films at all. Like at all. That seems impossible. I mean, what are the popular ones? I definitely have. What are the big, a fast and furious, I haven't seen the whole series. I've only seen like two of those because to me, it's the same movie every time.

4:11I've only seen Tokyo drift. What's that? I've seen the Tokyo drift one. And I don't think he's in that one. That was before the rock entered the, the fast and furious universe. Oh, was it? I believe. All right. Um, trying to think his, one of his early movies was The Run Down. That was with Stiffler from American Pie. That was a comedy action type thing. I have never seen, never seen the Jumanji movies with him. Me neither. Black Adam was terrible. He's in Molana, obviously, both the live action and just the voice. I haven't seen that one. Uh, let's see here. What else is he known for movie wise, the smashing machine? I didn't see that one yet. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I haven't seen that at all. So I don't know, man, it's, you go back a little bit. There's some of those big action movies that are, you know, the ones that stand out. Actually, there's the one big disaster movie. Uh, what was that called? Nandres. San Andreas. That's a dumb movie, but it's fun to watch. Like, it's just visually crazy to see all of that stuff, the way it played out in the movie. But it's not exactly the greatest plot or the greatest acting.

5:14Uh, Sky's Great Purse probably the same. He did, you know, the video game rampage, remember that? Oh, yeah. He did the movie version of that. Yeah, there's not a lot of movies in there where you're like, oh, yeah, that's a killer. Yeah, that's the thing. He's super famous and he seems like a very likable person, but he's never really made a film that I've wanted to like rush out and go see in the theaters. He was in that pain and gain movie with Mark Wahlberg. I didn't know. That one bored me a bit. Another one. I've seen the departed. I love that movie. Yeah. Love Mark Wahlberg in it. I don't know if I've so on Boogie nights, but yeah, yeah, right, right. Well, you know, you've not seen I've seen a lot of Mark Wahlberg movies and a lot of them are very much the same. Yeah, he's just like, say a load of your mother for me. I do think I know I do think he's good at comedy, Mark Wahlberg. Maybe better at comedy than anything else. Yeah, he's. I like him in Ted. I like him in other guys. I think it is a good job. I think he's fine. I mean, like it's very specific like what you'd want to see him in.

6:14I don't think you'd want to see him in Othello. Yeah. You know, I don't. He sure he's maybe for a couple of reasons to me and any casting. I'm not talking about. Come on, man. But I don't I don't I see him in the same category, not at the same level, but close. Same category as Tom Cruise. Like when I see Mark Wahlberg in a movie, I'm like, yep, that's Mark Wahlberg. Yeah, that's him. Tom Cruise. That's what that's Tom Cruise doing Tom Cruise stuff. That's Mark Wahlberg doing Mark Wahlberg stuff. Yep. And they're not. I don't even see that as a bad thing. I just think that's I mean, I'll go see almost every damn Tom Cruise movie. I'm not going to see digger though. It looks stupid. But most of his regular ones, I'm going to see him because they're going to be fun. They're going to be well made. They're going to be great action and they're going to be entertaining. They won't win many awards, but that's okay. When the awards in our heart, yeah, he'll win our money is what he's going to do. So yeah. I mean, I would say and I feel like that's I'm going I'm surprised as I'm going through the I was just going through IMDB and looking at all the rocks movies and I'm like, way

7:17the really hard that many where you're like, yeah, I loved that movie. Like, what? How does that square? I guess the wrestling part certainly elevated. I mean, it's like, it's a huge part of his famousness. But like, you'd think about a big star like that and you've been in a bunch of movies, but then there's a lot of the movies. You're just like, hmm, yeah. Where there was that was a movie, all right? Are there any other famous people that you went to school with or was kind of just him? Let's see. Well, I mean, a lot of athletes, obviously, you know, a lot of football players were big there. I'm trying to think of anybody else. Wasn't there like an actor like a pretty, wasn't there a model? There was a supermodel Nikki Taylor was there. I think lady. Yeah. That was a big deal at the time just because it was that was the, you guys know what the supermodel is, but you guys didn't live the supermodel era, right? Where it was like all of those, everybody knew all of them and everybody was like a big deal. I don't know. Like, what's that? I don't know about that. Yeah. I mean, America's next top model was like a huge show when I was a tween teenager and

8:20that was like Tyra Brank. To be fair, that was like the tail end. That's going to say that's like, that's like the generation 5.0 of the supermodel era. But yeah, the sheep, you know, Nikki Taylor was one of them. That she was probably in that middle wave. Like the, you know, right after the Christie Brinkley, Elmick Fearsson, that group, she was like right after that. But that, you know, you know, it isn't. There's somebody famous on there. Like one of the guys on the football team was Bob Marley's grandson. Oh, who cares? Yeah. Yeah. It was the introducing himself like that. No, but no, but everybody knew who he was. Bob Marley's grandson. He was really good football player too. Well, his name was Rohan Marley. So it wasn't really hard to figure out. I think everybody knows who Marley is. Yeah, I'm sure there were others, but those were the biggest ones that everybody was like everybody knows them. Well, and again, at that time, Dwayne Johnson was not that known. Like he was known, but he wasn't like one of the people on campus that everybody, I know who that guy is. It was just the pebble. He still needed to grow. He's still a lot of grown. You're still, you're still working on this.

9:21He's like, I'm going to find one that's going to work. I swear to God, I'm going to find out. I'm getting closer. The name of the rock is a little silly, but I mean, and no offense, anyone named Dwayne, but maybe if my name were Dwayne, I'd be trying to think of a cool nickname too. Yeah, totally. You know, absolutely. What was your cool? Well, you have one. You're a razor. A good, it's pretty badass. Yeah, razor. Andrew, do you got a nickname like that? No. No, no razor. No, cool thing would we call it? Mine's not as cool as razor, but wheels is pretty good. It works pretty well. We should call Andrew Red Bull. Yeah. Yeah. It is energy drinks. Red Bull, let's go. That one. Got it. I want to put it in my Gatorade, make the interval. Yeah, he keeps doing this wheel. So if you guys talked about this. Yes. I've tried to talk to Kevin and do it, but I'm going to do it. He's been trying to sell me on it for weeks. So just for the listeners, Andrew is mixing Gatorade with Red Bull all of the time now, which I'm in favor of because I think it's diluting his energy drink. As long as he's not finishing it later, but he is.

10:21I am. I think it activates both of them. I think I end up super hydrated and super energetic. And I see today, I noticed today, because I came into your little room for a second there, you have the light blue Gatorade and the blue Red Bull. Yes, that is because they mix really well. They complement each other. They complement each other. They're very similar flavors. And so when you combine them together, it makes like a very kind of very slushy. The way you talk about anything related to energy drinks is like the Somalia, the most fancy restaurants ever. I'm very passionate. You open it up and you're like, you're like, you're like, hold on, hold on, you got to let's sit for a second. And then you're just like, your nose is right up there. I am decanting the Red Bull right now. What's the procedure for that? It'll be ready and about how long you needed to air out to get some of the oxygen into it. Well, that's, you know, you open one here and then you open, you punch a hole in the bottom. And then that'll just shotgun it. You're so careful. You're not getting energy drinks.

11:24Oh, man. You got it all down. Now, how do you balance the decanting with the carbonation? Because it'll lose the carbonation if it's decanting for too long. Carbonation is very unimportant for energy drinks. Okay. So you're saying if it bubbles out, it's okay. Yeah. Good to know. Thank you, Somalia. Andrew. I call you. Hi, it's Friday on DGS. Dave will be back Monday. He's into appearance weekend out in Lawrence, Kansas. The rest of us here holding down the fort. Busy show is always on a Friday. Bernie Mickless coming up at 230. Alvin read at three o'clock. Dave Murray 330. George May, he four o'clock. Matt Polly after that. It's a lot. It's a busy week too, man. We got playoff baseballs off tonight, but you'll play off games tomorrow and Sunday. You will have college football, NFL, chiefs, obviously, on KMOX.

12:27Blues open tonight. So the hockey season starts tonight. Those of you that have been counting down about. That'd be fun. This should be interesting this year. They're different, which is going to make it at least someone interesting early on. I'll be optimistic, but obviously we still have a lot to learn about how this is all going to play out as the season goes along. I'm asking you this. If you guys tracked at all the buzz in LA for this weekend, because a lot of Dodgers fans are mad that Major League Baseball didn't reschedule the start time for their game on Saturday because it's going to be 100 degrees. And they got a 1 p.m. Pacific time, start time tomorrow and Sunday and Dodgers fans are mad that Major League Baseball didn't change it and flip them to the night time and move some of the other games during the day. And I've been kind of, I don't know, you guys tell me if you think I'm right or wrong. I've been going back and forth on Twitter, kind of laughing about the uproar because huge swaths of the country have baseball being played in those temperatures literally every day for two months. I mean, I coach in those temperatures every week for months, kids play in those level

13:29in those temperatures, high school kids play, college teams play in that minor league teams, Major League teams. And I just thought it was kind of silly that LA wants a special favor because of the weather because they're LA. And oh, that's hot for us. Well, okay, it's hot for us too when it's 100 in St. Louis or Atlanta or anywhere else that it's hot. So I don't know that we need to be changing the schedules of games to suit your needs. Am I being a jerk for taking it that way? No, I mean, I think logistically, it seems like it would be kind of a huge pain for all of the people who already acquired tickets and they've been planning on going at this certain time. Like, I think of that more than I think of like the TV schedule or anything like that. playoffs are a little different because they don't put start times right away. They usually don't do it until like one round is over and the next round exists. But either way, well, I was going to say the fact that it is playoff baseball. Maybe that's why I, I guess, feel a little more sympathetic to, yeah, we don't want to play a 90 degree weather.

14:29This is, it's October. Like if we could avoid playing when it's 90 in October for playoff baseball, I get why they made the initial complaint and tried to have it change, change. I don't necessarily think it's up to MLB to, to bend to everyone's requests, but I get why they're asking for it. Yeah, I find it a bit much when you're saying when, when the position is we should get special treatment because it's not happening with anybody else. If it was going to be a hundred degrees in, I don't know, Miami when they're playing there, they're not going to be like, Oh, yeah, let's move the game to 8 p.m. And we'll move the Dodgers to the afternoon. Like I think it's just one of those deals where it sucks. Look, a hundred degrees sitting outside for a game is not great. It's not fun. We've done it. We've all done. We've walked over there in that kind of heat. It sucks. It's just kind of a weird thing to me. And they, the argument that I'm getting from Dodgers fans a lot is that this is because

15:29they're catering to New York, which I find hilarious because literally everyone else in the country thinks the league caters to the Dodgers. And they're like, no, it's unfair because they want, they favor New York over us. I'm, no, they don't, no, they don't. You guys are both tied for first. They care equally about the Dodgers and the Yankees. This is not about some kind of East Coast bias. It's just look, they made a schedule and they're not going to adapt it because the weather's going to be hot for a couple of days. And while that's less than ideal, I don't think it's anything that you're owed as a fan. What am I missing here in that when they say they're being that New York is being catered because New York is playing a later game than they are. But, but how is that? I don't understand how that's favoring them because they, I know, I know. They mean like with the television schedule with the time of start. So they're going to get to play at 5 30 PM central time where the Braves and Dodgers are three central time. And they're arguing that they could have flipped those, but they won't because they don't want to make New York go in the afternoon, which is silly because they care as much about the LA market as they do the New York market because those are the two biggest markets.

16:32So and I'll say it's a weekend. So I don't, I don't, I'm, I find this all to be very tedious. Mostly when anybody in the big markets acts like anybody is doing them, doing them dirty because they're who they are. Like if anything, if you're in the biggest markets, Major League Baseball is going to do everything they can to cater to you because you're going to get the biggest audiences and to act like you're somehow being taken down because they prefer one team over you is silly. I mean, the Dodgers are the biggest worldwide draw in Major League Baseball. Everybody, I mean, when they're, when they're playing the whole world is watching and, and in particularly a whole country in Japan, that's watching because that's, that's Japan. That's Japan's Major League Baseball team. They have their, obviously, they have their own Lee. I'm not calling it that same of that, but like from Major League Baseball, the Dodgers are the national team of the, of the, of the country of Japan because the biggest stars from Japan play for the Dodgers. So it's not, it's not irrational, but it's also a point that you're not being, you're not being brought down because the league doesn't prioritize you.

17:32It's just a sucky thing. You get, you got bad weather on a weekend and it happens to be in the playoffs. And it's fine to be upset about that. We all would be, but it's not fine to be like, we, we, it should be changed for us. Yeah, I don't, I don't get the argument of, I don't get the New York argument. New York isn't doing anything. It's not like MLB is going out of their way. Right. This is how it was originally scheduled, not knowing what the temperatures were going to be. That's why I was like trying to drill down like, did they say something? Like, no, it's just, they just won't move it. And that means they're favoring the other team. It doesn't seem like it would matter for New York either way what time they played. I don't think it would affect. I mean, I'm sure they prefer later because of TV, but right. It's not like that's an advantage over LA. It'd be just as good to have it either way. It's not like there's any benefit there. Just guys, hydrate, hydrate. Do yourself the favor. They will be ready for it at Dodger Stadium. They'll have water. They'll have all that stuff. Sunscreen and water. You'll be okay. I'm Anna Garcia, host of True Crime News, the podcast every week.

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19:34Yeah. I so yesterday after the show, Andrew and wheels and I were talking about something. Oh, we were talking about the game we played a few weeks ago. Oh, right. When was that? Yeah, it was a while ago, maybe a few months ago, but but wheels had basically brought in a list of like pretty silly, base, old timey baseball names. And we had to try to figure out who was real and who was fake. Well, it turns out everybody was real. You know, they were ridiculous names. Ridiculous names. I've ever heard of my entire life. And then I got to thinking about it because we've been talking about Taylor Swift and these new songs that she's released. And I thought what a way to introduce wheels to some more of Taylor's. Oh, yeah. Well, I am trying to be their new best friend. Yeah. So it's probably good for me to have this information. You trying to get in with them. I think we should quiz him. Let's see how much Taylor Swift. He's been listening to recently because I believe recently when I tried to get you to name even three Taylor Swift songs, you could not name one.

20:36I know I can name one. You named you were like trouble. When you walked into the door, I'm like, alright, good enough. Good enough. Good enough. But that was the only song you could think of. Now, before we play this game, little disclaimer, okay. I make fun of Taylor Swift a lot. I've been making fun of the new songs a lot. I've also been singing the new songs to myself constantly. And putting together this game reminded me of a lot of Taylor Swift songs that I do genuinely enjoy. So I just want to throw that out. I don't want people to think that I'm just like, yes, no talent. Bob of a lot. She's obviously incredibly talented and has written many great songs. She's also put out some, you know, she's got a lot of filler out there too. So we're going to play a game. Is it a real Taylor Swift lyric or not? Oh boy, lyric. Yes. Andrew's on to go over. This is just wheels. Okay. Can I be a lifeline? What if he can, what if he can play, but he just goes after me every time? He's going to get all of these. I might not get them all right. It might be a fun contrast to see. Okay.

21:37I'm literally, I'm literally like, this is like me. If you're going to say, okay, Kevin, we're going to play darts. Uh, and we're going to blindfold you and spin you around. And you have no idea where the dart board is, but you got to see how many you can hit. Well, we're not, it's, we'll play Andrews without a play, but it's not like versus because he's not in right. Exactly. I can see defeat over. Okay. Got it. We'll just see if Andrew's able to spot the fake. Andrew, I'll make sure you get the trophy later. So spot the fake Taylor Swift lyric edition. Okay. Let's get started. That's not one of them. Let's get started. Is that one of them? That's the black eyed piece. I waited for you every night like a dog at the door. Now I've moved on and you aren't welcome anymore. I'm, I'm not done. I'm a guard dog, baby, protecting my heart because you turned betrayal into an art. That's so bad. It has to be real. I think that one might be real, but it also sounds very fake. What you got? That's why I think it's the real one because it's sounds fake. Well, lock in Andrew. Which one is it?

22:38Yeah. You got picked, bro. What's the fake? Okay. Andrew does get this. I made that one up. That's a good one. Man. That's my Taylor lyrics. I was like, there's no good. I'm like, that's too obvious that you made it. It's like, yeah, it's too good of a bad lyric. You're trying to read Rachel's mind. I'm like, well, I failed. Well, I was trying not to smile as I read it. Okay. Here's the next one. It's like when I read the name like Tuts Magoo and you can't. That's not me. I can't be. They told me all of my cages were mental. So I got wasted like all my potential. I'm going to call real. I think I'm not going to say real every time I promise. I'm also going to say real. All right. You both get that one. That is from the song. This is me trying on Taylor's folk lore album. All right. That's a good one. You'd like that one, Kevin. I'm sure I would. I'm sure it's really metal. You really like, yeah, it's very soft. You know, imagine you're like walking through the woods and it's like raining a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Here's the next one. You were the.

23:39I think this is when I was where it was going to last. And I have already failed. You were the ocean. I was the tiny fish. Trying to swim along. But I couldn't keep up with you. I was no match for the current. Yeah, baby. Your current was just too strong. That's great. It sounds like I think it's real. I think it's from love ocean. I think it's from fish love. Well, there's a lot of people like on Tik Tok and Instagram. Graham, who will do these little skits. And they're like, this is what the new dayless was. So I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, the same cadence. And I just kept saying to myself, you were the ocean. I was the tiny fish. Okay, that one is fake. Everybody at the audience is making a little fishy head.

24:40Did you really think I wouldn't notice your lies and your motives? Well, honey, I'll tell you what pop queens don't hang out with no goods like you, you, you. I'm going to say that it's flip a car. Real. I think it's real. I fooled you. No, I made that up. Pretty good. I'm in my computer and I just started typing. And then I said, what? What rhymes with motives? You let the wind take you. That is what I did for all of this. What I'm learning, Rich, is that you should be writing lyrics for Taylor. I think I might have cracked the code. I think so. I think you fooled us. All right. Here's the next one. It's me. Hi. I'm the problem. It's me at T time. Everybody agrees. Real. I just almost certainly real. It is real. It's from the song anti hero from the album Midnight's. Can I ask why you thought that one was real?

25:40I could actually heard that one. OK. Yeah. OK. Well, so I thought Kevin would know this. I knew what was real. What's the song called? Anti hero. Anti hero. I would not have known that. Yeah. I've heard the song a million times. Yeah. So I knew it was real. The reason I thought Kevin would probably get this one is that this is the song that when it came out, Amy got really obsessed with. Oh, really? And she, because it was all like, you know, I'm the victim kind of song. That's probably where I heard it. She was singing it back there because she Amy does that. Yeah. She'll just walk back singing random things. She was, yeah, she was. She was like, she was getting really upset about how, you know, biggest pop star in the world is like constantly. OK. Everyone's always victimizing me. Is that the song that we're like, is that why that song was famous? Because people are like, oh, yeah, everybody's picking on your tailor. You're a billionaire. No, it was famous because it was the lead single off a Taylor Swift. I don't know. Oh, yeah. It was a catcher. OK. It was a lead single off of the big. The same thing. Dave Heinz said the same thing. This game has taught you taught him that Rachel should be a pop songwriter. I think Dave, I would go the step further Dave, not just pop Taylor Swift.

26:43Wheels were about to be hanging out with Taylor and Travis. I know. I'm telling you, you're going to write songs. I'm going to be their dog sitter. And that's going to be that. And Andrew, what job would you like once I get us in? Dogs that are just taken. Yeah, I'm taking the does. This is the entire reason why I want to be friends with them. I don't know what I don't know what else I'm qualified for. Yeah, you know what you could do? You could be you could you could you could do or man. You could be the guy that follows Travis around and reminds, reminds all of us how good his NFL stats are since your team fan. I can remind him like what people's names are because of the CT. Oh, dude. Andrew's blowing it for us wheels. Yeah, Andrew, thank you. Travis is not going to like us now. Our name is Taylor. Travis. What? And your name is trash. Would you like another lear? Yes. Okay. These neon lights can't disguise the emptiness revealed inside. Baby, this club's mirrors and shiny poles only reflect your twisted soul. I have no idea.

27:44So I'm going to pull the quarter out of my pocket and flip the coin. I'm going to say real. Do you think he's like flipping an imaginary? I am. I went. I went. I went. Yeah. It was, you know, how Dave says you can't visualize the apple. I can visualize the coin floating through the air, flipping and landing and it dropped on tails. And that's why I said real got to go fake. It is fake. I made that up. Dang. Shining poles. I thought you guys would pick out shiny poles for sure, because that's really dumb. I did zero it on shiny poles, but I also have heard equally bad things from her. So I'm I did kind of go back and forth. Yeah. See, this is the problem is like I mostly picked fake. It just because he picked real and I wanted to go the opposite. I think part of the problem for me is that I have a hard time distinguishing the silliness of the real world and the silliness of Rachel's fiction and that she wrote. Because some of the lyrics I've heard of like what? Here's another one. Okay. Just think while you've been getting down and out about the liars and the dirty, dirty cheats of the world, you could have been getting down to this sick beat.

28:48Oh my God. I'm going to fall back into the that's just so bad. It's real. It's real. It is real. As I said at the time when shake it off came out, oh, is that what that is? Yes. I hate that song. Taylor Swift and I have a very different definition of what constitutes a sick beat. Yeah. Do her songs even have a beat? Yeah. And again, I like a lot of the Taylor songs. I like a lot of the Taylor songs, but this is it's fun to to poke a little fun. Yeah. Once upon a time, you were mine. Now you live in a fairy tale with her. I keep our memories like a shrine and drink myself to stupor. Oh God. I want that to be fake, but I'm guessing real. I'm not sure. I'm going to say fake. Andrew gets another one. I made that one up. That was me. I mean, Rachel, the made up ones don't sound any more ridiculous than the real ones. Here's the last one.

29:50And this one's real silly. So you tell me what's real. All right. Touch me while your bros play grand theft auto. I and you know, maybe way, I'm going to say real. I do believe it is real. It's real. It's from a song so high school on the tortured poets department album. And it is 100% real. That line right there would torture a lot of poets. So we'll see you so mission accomplished with the you did pretty well. We'll see you're getting six right. Out of the whole crop, but I was very proud of myself that I was able to stump you a few times. Man, I gotta tell you, Rachel. I honestly, I cannot tell the difference. I can just feel like a Taylor Swift chat. You should just start submitting lyrics and just say, Hey, let me know if you need more. Just cut me a check.

30:54I had to come back. You got to bring some of that out. This is an incredible song. It is. Yeah, this is called style by Taylor Swift. Of course, this is probably my favorite song she's ever written that I know of anyway. All right. It's good. What's just an absolute. I learned some of lyrics. So when I drop my resume on them, they'll I can do this. They're like throw this in there and they'll know I know. Just be like, I love the song you wrote about Harry Styles from one direction. My other favorite artist. Oh, is that what that is about? Oh, okay. Sure. Yeah. He's a good actor. Most of her songs are about a famous person. Yeah. Yeah, I did not know this. Worst or song about Dave Clever. It's something funny. It's all 1989. I didn't listen to that one. I'm trying to think of like a good one that we could see as well.

31:58All too well is about Dave. There you go. I don't know any of those songs. I saw this. I don't know. It's really about as a waste opener. Okay. Hold on, wheels. I'm sorry. Taylor Swift did write a very, very good song that is like devastating. And it's about this breakup and this romance she had and this like lost love. Isn't that all of their songs? But this is like an iconic one. I was like, except it's extreme. It's a very good song. It's her most famous one. Who do you think she could have possibly written it about? That's right. It's about you. We've been wanting to tell you for a while. Damn, I didn't even know. Who could it have been about? I don't know. Silvestre Stallone. That's a really good guess. Amazing, guess. Yes, it was actually written about Jake Gyllenhaal. Oh, as far off as I thought it would be.

32:59Two great actors. They both played boxers and movies. That was like, you know, slides are pretty good. Since we're on the famous person thing, I saw this interview. It was, I think Kevin Bacon was on like a British TV show. I don't know how old this was. I just saw the clip recently and I thought it was interesting. So he was talking about being famous and what it's like. And like, you know, everybody he, you know, he's talking about Hollywood. He's like, all of us, you know, that are in the movies and things he is, we, and I'm paraphrasing everything he said, but it's going to get to the main point. Like every, we all know that, you know, when we go in public, we're going to be recognized. Some places it's worse than others. He goes, and I wanted to see what it was like to not be recognized. So he paid a professional makeup artist to make him look like not Kevin Bacon. And he went out to a big shopping area that's apparently popular around Hollywood. And then he said, if you're a celebrity and you go there, you know, it's going to be nonstop selfies and people are going to be asking for autograph. You're not going to get out of there without being mobbed.

33:59And he went through and he's like, I went through and nobody recognized me. And I thought what he was going to say was, and it was awesome. And his, and his finish was, and it totally sucked. I hated it. I hated just being anonymous. And what he was making the point was that people in his line of work complained too much. Because you actually get a lot of benefits from being recognized. He's like, you go to a restaurant, they don't, they don't send you a bill for the check. They just comp the check because they want you to come back. Like he's like, you just get used to all of these doors that open up for you. And then when you're just normal, nothing opens up for you. And I thought that was a good piece of perspective. Like recognizing that the rest of us are actually just budding our heads up against walls all the time and running into obstacles that just get cleared out of the path for people that are famous. Yeah, I mean, good for him for being willing to admit that. Yeah, that's what I thought was interesting. Because I thought he was going to say it sucked because I didn't get the reassurances that.

35:00But he seems to be a pretty normal dude. The way he approaches all this. But I thought it was funny because everybody on the panel thought he was going to say how great it was. And he immediately goes, and it sucked. And he goes, and I get it. Now he goes, that helped me understand what privilege we have being famous. Like, yeah, there are downsides. And yeah, there's demands on your time. You got paparazzi that are going to follow you. And that's all intrusive. And I think, but the way he was putting it was, yeah, those things are bad. They're annoying. But we still have all the good stuff too. Right. Not just money and all that. But like you, you're treated differently when people know you and recognize you and like you. Yeah, I was actually just thinking earlier today about interaction I had with a famous person. And it was like for split second, I could read their micro expression. And that micro expression was like, I don't want to talk to. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then they like snapped back real quick. Yeah. And like at the time, I was a little like, oh, they don't want to choke me. But then it's like, well, why would they want to talk to me?

36:02Ultimately, I appreciate the fact that they like buttoned it up real quick. And we're super nice. You know how you get that look real fast? Hold a microphone in a face and face person's face. That's what was happening. Every time you cover a locker room and like baseball hockey basketball football, I mean, you know that look. And I get it. I don't, I don't, I don't begrudge anybody that look. I totally understand. Yeah. It's like, of course, of course you don't want to do that. A lot of times the reaction you'll get if you don't have the microphone out is very different. Yes. You know, like if you're standing around and you just have a strike up a natural conversation and it's not being recorded and you're not asking for anything. It's just two people talking that used to be, that usually is a lot more casual kind of a vibe. And it's not as, oh no, I'm on guard now. Now I got to be on guard and I got to be careful. Or this is going to take more time than I want it to, right? Like I understand it. I'm not saying that it's necessarily like some people are bad about it. Like they're worse about it than they should be. A lot of people though are way more accommodating than they would otherwise be because they know that's the job.

37:06But it's interesting to hear a guy like that. Be like, yeah, you know what? I get it. I understand that I got things pretty good. Even if some things annoy me. Hey there. I'm Kendra Adachi and my show The Lazy Genius Podcast helps you be a genius about the things that matter and lazy about the things that don't. And you get to decide what matters. I'm not here to tell you what to do. I'm here to give you a new way to see episodes of The Lazy Genius Podcast are full of compassionate time management tips. And permission slips to do what makes sense for you. New episodes drop every Monday. Follow and listen to The Lazy Genius Podcast on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, it's DJ. It's on Friday. Dave Alex for Parents Weekend at KU and he'll be back on Monday.

38:10The rest of the gang here. We're all holding it down for the show. Bernie McClustu 30, Alvin Reed at three day Murray 330. George May he four o'clock mat, Paulie after George. So it would be busy throughout the course of the show today looking forward to that. And then of course Redbird rush hour will follow this show from five until six. And then it sports open line. I've been wanting to bring this up for a couple of days. I wanted to bring this up to you guys because we've talked about the flock cameras before. And you know, we talk a lot about AI and flock and AI. They're obviously inherently linked because flock uses AI to do the jobs that it's doing. And I wanted to point out two things. One is the setup. And then the second part is a follow up that I hope will continue to make this a better situation. Did you guys see the story about the 23 year old woman from Florida and flock? I believe so. She was out shopping, but a flock camera caught her derango. Am I thinking of the right story? You stood out. Durango is the right one. Yeah. Yeah. They located her derango like several miles away from the scene of a terrible accident.

39:13There was a fatal car accident. Yes. And the flock cameras flagged her car. That was not in the vicinity. Okay. So she was not a part of this accident. She was not at the scene of the accident. Her name is Lindsay Isaacs as a result of the flock camera flagging that her her car. And as a result of the actions of police in Palm, Palm Coast, Florida, she went to maximum security jail for two weeks. And she was in solitary confinement for 86 hours for something she didn't do and was nowhere in the vicinity of. And I find that to be the most offensive thing that can happen in the United States. That someone who did nothing wrong ends up in jail. This wasn't a you got arrested and you're released on bail and we'll sort it all out later.

40:13This was you're arrested and you're going to jail. And there's more to the story than just all of that because apparently this played out over a long period of time. It did. I think they confiscated her car and they held it for six months, six months. They held her brand new car. And then after her lawyer tried to get her car back, that's when they arrested her and charged her with all of these crazy felonies and put her in maximum security jail and eventually in solitary confinement. This is a major problem. Well, and it's really a failure on the part of the prosecutors and the police department that handled this because she was questioned the night of the accident that she had nothing to do with. Right. And she showed them her Durango which had no name. No name. It's right. Right. She showed them a receipt showing, hey, I was at the store and I was also, you know, and then later I was back home.

41:15You know, like they could have followed up on any of this and at any time said, wow, the evidence doesn't match up with the accusation at all. There's other than the fact that this flock camera caught her vehicle several miles away from the accident. That's the only thing connecting her. Right. But it doesn't even actually connect her because it's not the right car. Clearly it doesn't have the damage that would be consistent with this kind of fatal accident. She also has a airtight alibi. She was cooking with her mother at the time of the accident. Yeah. The time the accident and then she left to go pick up some to go shopping and then she came home and ate the food. She prepared with her mother and went to bed. I highly doubt if she had killed people in a automobile accident. She would just went home and went to bed later. She wasn't impaired or anything. No. And you're right. You're right. Wheels. She was initially questioned. She then decided to retain a defense attorney because she thought this is going to be bad. Right. And then eventually she was arrested and put in a maximum security jail.

42:19All of this time in solitary confinement. I watched her testify about this. This poor woman was struggling to keep it together as she was describing what she went through in solitary. How difficult this was on her mentally. She did nothing to deserve any of this. She yeah, she did nothing. She was just doing normal things in another place. And this is a, this is a dual pronged problem, right? The first problem is that the flock camera flagged her car that was not at the scene. The second part of it is the police and prosecutors still running with it. When they found no damage to her car like in and of itself, wouldn't that kind of tell you she wasn't involved in an accident? Yeah. And you can't find like geolocation on her cell phone or anything along those lines. You can't find a way. I mean, if I were in her position, I would be like, yes, here. This is my phone company. Go go find out where I was. I will, I will, I'll get the information and show you myself.

43:22This, this, this should never happen. And it's partly flock being a horribly flawed system at the moment and ripe for corruption. But this is also like, why would you, if you're the Florida highway patrol, if you are a prosecutor in Florida and you don't have more evidence than that, why would you put someone in jail? Why would you file eight felony charges? Based on this evidence. I'm wondering if it's the type of situation where the technology flags it and then it's just handed to someone who isn't qualified to assess the situation. Sure, but they, I mean, like in the story that I'm reading, it shows that the Florida highway patrol actually did a specialized examination of the car and determined there was no evidence it was involved in a crash. And yet their case continued. Yeah, that's what I'm saying is like somehow this ended up in the hands of someone who was just like, I'll just do what it says here on the form says the next step is this.

44:26That's a big problem with, you know, automating everything and making everything AI too is the responsibility doesn't really fall right person. A lot of great point, great point. So then people are just making either sloppy mistakes. I'm praying that this was an unqualified person making the decision rather than a qualified person showing gross negligence. But it had to be a series of people. Yeah, it was, it was whoever got the information from flock. It was whoever went out and performed the arrest, whoever continued the investigation. The prosecutors continued on even without any real evidence and a judge approved this woman being held in jail. Yeah, it's very how does every part of the legal system fail in that sim in that simple case where this is a person that was nowhere near what happened. But an AI camera says she was and that's all they needed to ruin this woman's life for six months.

45:27Well, here's the thing. If we were using some sort of AI technology here at Odyssey and it sent me a file and that file contained a bunch of curse words. And then I proceed to play it on the air. Ultimately, it's on me for playing. Like it's up to me to check it to make sure it's right. When I notice the F bombs repeatedly airing, it's up to me to say, oh, that should stop. And I should hit the dump button and I should put something else on to play. But instead, it's like, oh, they ate the AI. The AI did it. Like, okay, the AI made a mistake. Yeah. That's not good. At a certain point, someone with a brain should be able to say, hey, there's a mistake. We need to fix this mistake. Yeah. And to be if I'm being like brutally honest in all of this, flock should be sued. And this should cost them millions and millions and millions of dollars. The police officers that that followed through on the investigation and didn't complete it should lose their jobs. The prosecutors should lose their jobs.

46:29And I don't know how much the judges had, but if you didn't have more than just the flock camera thing, then why are you, why are you sentencing someone to go to approving anything where it's like, yeah, this person gets to go to jail like real jail, too. Not just like county lock up for 48 hours. I mean, two weeks of maximum security with some with, you know, solitary confinement. What are you doing? Why is a person who is accused of being in a car accident? What do they need to be in solitary confinement for? She was also saying that she was being harassed by the other inmates because of the nature of the crime. Of course. Of course, because I mean, every, there's one of the things that pops up on my, on my TikTok algorithm are all the, the prison and jail stories. And all you always hear is like when there's a new person, everybody wants to know what your paper, they want your paperwork, they want to know what you're in for. And they start to find this kind of thing out. Even if she's not the one that told them, it's not, they can find that information. Like why is this person here? Well, now you're a target because now you're the person that, that killed people in an accident and fled the crime.

47:33That's what the, that's what your paperwork is going to say. So to them, you're just a horrible person to be messed with, to be, tort, essentially, torture, not like necessarily physically, but like constantly messed with, but maybe physically, maybe beaten up, maybe, you know, threatened. And this woman should be super wealthy by the end of all of this. And people need to lose their jobs because if people don't lose their jobs, then there is no accountability. There is no accountability. If you, if you get to keep your job when you do your job that poorly, then it's going to happen again. And it's going to happen again. And it's going to happen again. And I mean, this is, you're right. There's no accountability. And the, the more we encourage people to not use their brains and just go along with whatever is spit out at them, the harder it's going to be to correct mistakes in the future. And the harder it's going to be to recognize mistakes in the future. If you stop doing math, you lose those skills, right? Like you have to keep doing those equations over and over again to keep that muscle going.

48:36I highly doubt any of us could sit down and do like a complex, like algebra equation right now. Look at three of us. Not in my absolute. They're good because they're still using it. Right. But like you, it's something that you need to keep doing. If you aren't making decisions anymore, it becomes way harder to start making them again. And that's the truly terrifying part about AI. Yeah. Yeah. We can't farm out our ability to use logic and reason, right? And that's what happened here, though. It's like, it's like, oh, the thing said that the thing said it was her. Just go get her. Yes. And credit where credit is due because we do, as often as we talk politics, we're usually picking on somebody, whether it's local, state, federal. I mean, we're, we, I think that's the dynamic as it should be. I think we should always be picking on people in positions of power because that's the only way you keep them accountable. But in this case, I think it's also credit where credit is due because Josh Holly's working on a bill that would regulate the usage of flock cameras by police departments. So he wants to put in these things into this bill.

49:38And he's not alone, but he's one of the people behind this. The data can never be sold. The data that according to this bill, the fact that that wasn't already in the area of trouble. Well, the fact that flock is that any of these companies are planning on selling data without permission, without telling anybody is a problem. So in Josh Holly's bill, flock data can never be sold. Every search must must be authorized. So nobody who just has access can just go in there. No, you have to have permission to go into the system to look anything up. Agencies would have to log whose searches and what they're searching for. And the data must be encrypted. It must be deleted every 10 days, unless it's part of an ongoing investigation. And there can be no facial recognition software as a part of the flock cameras. That's what the bill that Josh Holly's working on would do. And I, to me, that just sounds so obvious. Yeah. We should not be collecting facial recognition data on people that are just driving down the street. That's police state nonsense. That is literally big brother.

50:39Governor Kehoe just signed an executive order to tighten up on on flock here in Missouri. To this happened back. I think this was on the 16th of September. Did you guys talk about this when I was outweels? Maybe briefly. Yeah, because he's doing similar things, requiring most license plate and vehicle data to be permanently deleted within 30 days. Can't sell anything. You can't share limit the use of this technology to legitimate criminal justice and life-saving purposes, which again, the fact that that wasn't already a part of the deal. I mean, yes, is upsetting. Well, this is why, you know, when we were getting into this stuff, what was it a couple of weeks ago? This is why I hate the flock system because it just got thrown into activation without regulation. There was nothing in place protecting our individual freedoms. Nothing protecting us from overreach, from illegal searches, from information being gathered about our travel and what we're doing without any permission

51:39and without probable cause. And at least finally, we're a little late on this because this is after a woman spent time in maximum security jail. This is after a family was pulled over by police officers with guns drawn because flock told them that car was involved in a crime when it wasn't. I wheels, I get what you're saying and we do need to take a break. I shouldn't bring this up. But I don't, I can't blame a piece of equipment for a miss, like, I'm not saying like flocks good. I love it. I'm not saying that. But in these two instances, the humans are supposed to use their brains and they decided to not use their brains. Right. Well, that's ultimately where I lay the responsibility. What I'm going on about though is not just the tool, but that the fact the tool was an unregulated tool thrown into place without anyone having guardrails put onto it before it started hurting people. Right. The technology itself, I mean, we could make the analogy that flock cameras are just like guns, like guns, like in a sense that the usage of it is the problem in and of itself.

52:44It's just a tool. What I'm upset about is the fact that it got out there basically without any of these guardrails in place to begin with. Makes sense. No, no. All right. DJ's on a Friday. We're just talking about that flock case in Florida with the woman that went to jail. Like maximum security jail for an accident. She was not a part of in the six month problems and torture that went along with all that. And you said you have a follow up on that? Yeah. I mean, it's not directly related, but it goes hand in hand with being surveilled in public. There is a new study that came out that said that 47% of people say they're afraid of being themselves in public because they don't want to go viral. Yeah. And that's not necessarily because a flock camera is just cameras in general.

53:46Yeah. We are so quick to, oh, that person's acting weird. Let me get on my phone and start filming them. And sometimes that works out for the good. Sometimes though, it's just mean and wrong. And people are afraid of relaxing in public of showing strong emotions or opinions. 30% of respondents say they avoid dancing. 29 avoid acting silly or telling jokes because they don't want to get filmed and put on and get cancer, whatever. Yeah. You can't or get made fun of. Right. How many times do you see a video and you go to the comments and people are just being so rude and so mean? And apparently this fear of going viral is influencing social participation across generations. Yeah. Yeah. I had this on the run down and I took it off because it was just on for a bit. We didn't get to it. But I was watching a podcast where I got this guy said, I think this guy said he was in his early 30s. And he's some kind of sociologist. Somebody, he's the study's human's behavior.

54:47And he was talking about he said, I'm in my early 30s. Nobody I know has children. Most people don't even want to go out and be social. And he said, you know, he goes through and he said, young people aren't getting married. They're not meeting as many. They're not dating as much in part because they don't want to go do things. When they're in a club, you just point it out. When they're in a club, they don't dance. You're there, but you just not dancing because you don't want to be filmed. And you don't want to go up to approach a man or approach a woman if you're interested in them and get shot down and have somebody catch that on camera. So it's just preventing people from doing the normal things that human beings have done all the way up until now. It's really sad because we didn't have to worry about that stuff. I mean, camera phones were somewhat of a thing, but it was also like, you could very clearly tell if someone got their phone out and was holding it. It was going to be greeny and it was going to be far away and all of this stuff. But now it's like the best digital camera ever is right there on your phone. I mean, when I was doing that part of my life, cameras were a thing,

55:48but they weren't on my phone and my phones were at my house. And they were like, my fucking films. That's Friday on DGS and Fridays on DGS. I mean, we get to visit with our buddy, Bernie McClendon. Hello, Bernie. How are you doing today? What do you know? What do you know? I don't know. I don't know. Everything's good, man. I guess what I know depends on who you're asking. Something like that. Something like that. What I do know is this is a pretty damn good sports dudes weekend. Man, we got playoff baseball starting tomorrow. The blues start tonight. Mizzou's got Florida tomorrow. There's a whole list of big games in college football. And of course, Sunday we get to have some NFL. So I'm going to put that whole buffet out there and you can pick what you want first. You know, the weird thing is I'm usually all over college football, which I will be tomorrow. Don't get me wrong.

56:49But it's been a nutty week for me. Really, really busy. Not much free time late at night to do my studying or just looking at videos and stuff. I haven't really scoped the college football weekend out yet. Other than Mizzou hosting Florida, which I'm really looking forward to. And my Navy midshipman play at Air Force, which is always a big game. Yeah. So and I, you know, it'll be interesting whether Mississippi State at home could knock off Alabama. Uh-huh. That's one that I'm interested in. What college games have caught your eyes this weekend? Other than the ones you mentioned, I think obviously Mizzou and Florida will talk about that in some detail in a second. That's right there at the top of the list for me, not only because it's local, because it's really interesting because Georgia, Florida's been one of the coolest stories out there in Mizzou's also ranked opponent. So it should be fun. Ohio State Iowa is going to have my attention. I think Ohio State's probably in good shape, but I still it's an interesting challenge when you look up and see, you know, two ranked teams in the big 10 getting after it.

57:51I think the other one was the other one. There was a, well, I mean, obviously, you know, my canes are taken on Clemson. So I'm into that too. I'm not sure exactly what to expect in that one, because I've seen some holes in my guys. But I've also seen a lot of holes in Clemson too. Sure. Sure. So and I think, I think, frankly, national media has kind of overreacted to Clemson success. Yeah, I agree. You know, it just hasn't been anything special. I think, I think the real Clemson was probably the Clemson that got wiped out by LSU. I think that's closer to the reality. Yeah. Who knows? Who knows? I mean, you know, their wins are 22 to seven against Georgia Southern, which is not exactly impressive. 28, 20 against the North Carolina team. That's been nothing but chaos since Bill Bella check took over and isn't very good. And then Cal who I think is okay, but I don't think there anything special. No, no, no, no. I think Cal's probably a 500 team, maybe, maybe a game over. So hard to know what it's going to be. And also, you know, again, I can make that same argument a bit for my guys where

58:52they've had some games where they don't look all that special. They didn't look very good against Wake Forest in my opinion in the second half. And the other opponents are all just so weak. It's not fair to even judge. No, no, exactly right. So we're definitely going to have probably more stuff that didn't we can watch tomorrow. Oh, yeah. I started, you know, I think we can bounce back to college from all of you want. But I listen, I'm actually, as a fan, I'm rooting for Milwaukee, because I just respect Milwaukee. So my second year would also be cool. If, you know, they could go deep in the playoffs, but I got to tell you, man, the Padres are scary as hell. I mean, anybody anybody that that placed San Diego could be in that heck of a lot of trouble. Do you know who else is back on July the 24th? You know, the Cardinals had a better record than the Padres. Yeah. Yeah, they did. They did. The Padres have been on fire with now. It ties into Fernando Tatees, figuring his things out.

59:52He figured it out about midway through the season. And he's been MVP level since the midway point. Absolutely. And Machado came on strong. The, the bullpen in terms of ERA, it's not the best bullpen that way. But it pretty much is the best bullpen because of the guy at the end, Miller. But also, also the way they set him up. I mean, that is such a deep bullpen. The only weakness they have, I mean, I think King is a really good starter. After that, it's kind of like who knows, you know, but I think it's a dangerous matchup for Milwaukee. I do think Milwaukee's one of their strengths is that they're really, really, really smart. And they seem to know what to do to slow down opponents or to bother opponents. So we'll see it. I'm really intrigued by that series. Yeah, I am too. I completely agree with you. The Padres bullpen is scary. Good, man, especially in the playoffs when like a Robbie Ray is probably in the bullpen. You know, that's a big lefty that strikes people out. That's not normally there.

1:00:53But you got Mason Miller, who's obviously, you know, the nastiest reliever on the planet. Morion is a lefty throwing 100 Bradley, Bradley Rodriguez throws 100. You know, Jason Adam is now healthy and he's been really good. So they're, yeah, they're a scary team. I think you're right that like, I think Milwaukee is the better team. But I don't think it's an automatic in any stretch in the, by any stretch of the imagination. And I think the team that I'm really rooting for Bernie is very similar to Milwaukee. I'm really on the raise bandwagon this year. I would love to see the raise in the world series. I want to, in fact, you know, I'll take a Tampa Bay Milwaukee world series. I mean, that'd be fun. That that also would get Rob Manford in his, his people told really, really ticked off. Yeah. So tie them into knots because then it ruins their whole narrative going into the labor talks. Right. Right. In fact, let's, let's uh, what would be the best possible to, to LCS matchups for that, to, what would bother Rob Manford the most? I mean, if we could get like, I mean, honestly, honestly, God, it doesn't really matter

1:01:56between the Padres and the Brewers. But I would say Brewers because their payroll is significantly lower than the Padres. But if you had Brewers, Braves and like Guardians, Rays and two of those teams in the world series, everybody's narrative in the off season is going to have to calm down a little bit. Yeah, that's, that's the, that's right. Cause listen, Dodgers, Atlanta isn't a separate category. There's no way to say one, one, you know, one of those outcomes. I, well, I, I guess it would bother, um, I guess, Manford and his people, I guess the Dodgers winning would, best case, yeah, would help them. Dodgers Yankees World Series would be their best case in every possible way, right? Big games and narrative help. That's exactly. That's exactly right. Isn't it funny? I, sorry, this is a little side tangent on baseball, but isn't it funny? I, I did this the other day, Bern. I don't, I don't have in line up. Maybe I'll bring it up tonight on Red Bull Rush hour, but I pulled up Rob Manford quotes about the health of the sport over the last five years. I saw, I saw those. Yeah. For four years, it's nothing but we're doing great.

1:02:59We're the healthiest we've ever been. Young people are coming back. Ratings are up, attendance is up and heck like a year and a half ago, he was saying that our competitive balance is as good as it's ever been. Right. Man, as soon as you jump into the labor negotiations, it's, we're in bad shape. We can't do this. This is unsustainable and it's just amazing how it just flies by the radar of so many fans who just forget that the commissioner was saying a completely different thing about the health of his sport for the last four or five years. Well, that's right. And they, there's somebody really good baseball teams that have really low payrolls. And we're Manford and his people, they put all of it on the fact like, well, yeah, that's great in the regular season. They, none of them win a world series. I think there is a little something to that, but I also covered so much postseason baseball in my time in St. Louis. Every cardinals game, home or away covered in the postseason, you know, since Bill DeWitt bought the team.

1:03:59And the thing up up until, excuse me, through, through about 2015, maybe, yeah, I think so. Right? I've seen the randomness of postseason too many times to try to attribute it to payroll size. I mean, there, there, there is crazy, crazy stuff that happens all the time. And it's not because of payroll, you know? No. So I think there's, I think maybe we collectively read too much into that, but that's certainly a big talking point with, with the people that are trying to say, okay, great regular season. So where's the where are the world series? You know, see, they don't have a chance. Well, I think they have a chance. Maybe it's a finer line. Maybe they have to be more perfect, so to speak, than the Dodgers. But the Dodgers, you know, the Dodgers, what was it in 2020? What was the year they should have lost to the podries? They were down. Yeah. The Dodgers were like on the cliff said, you know, a couple years ago.

1:05:04And last year, they should have lost the world series. They didn't win it as much as Toronto blew it. Right? Good point. Yeah. And everybody should know, I mean, if you just, you know, you just have to look at the history of the game, the playoffs are random. And that, you know, the Dodgers were the highest payroll team. The Dodgers and Yankees have been the highest payroll teams in baseball for the last 20 years. And combined, they have three world series. Right. So I know. And the Mets are great argument per, you know, payroll, like they haven't won anything with this huge payroll. And it doesn't mean that it's not good. It is good because it keeps you in the playoffs every year, which is what led, you know, really was a big part of the cardinal success for all that time, right? If you're in the dance all the time, your chances of winning are greater. So that's a huge advantage. But that does, I mean, the brewers have been there for a long time now too. The rays have been in this mix now for a long time. It's a matter of, you know, at some point, you do need to have it go well in the post season. And there is the point though, like when you measure a regular season, success burn, you're, you're measuring 162 games six months.

1:06:06And when you're in the post season, you're really just measuring it three, four, five games at a time. And in that short of a window, literally anyone can win a series against anyone else. I think 162 is the true or test. I really do. Yeah. Because it can test your depth. It tests a lot of things. So and I, I always feel compelled to repeat this. I've, I've mentioned this a lot lately. But for the people who talk about the brewers, well, they haven't won anything big. They haven't even been to a world series. Okay, fine. But I remind people that a St. Louis Cardinals team that had as much talent as any team I've ever seen around these parts. And as much talent as any team in baseball except for maybe the Yankees during that time. You know, Tony LaRusa and the Cardinals, his cardinals team, he didn't get, he didn't win a pen until his ninth season. Right. And that team also had pretty big payroll. So and pretty good players. Yeah. Great players. Yeah.

1:07:07Can't count up all the Hall of Famers. Yeah, exactly. So yeah. So I think people, it's really easy to like cling to an narrative and just keep pounding it, you know, without looking at a bigger picture because the bigger picture is always there. And it'll tell you some other stuff that if you have an agenda, you probably will not acknowledge because you have an agenda. Right. Right. So let's just do a quick vibe check on the blues who kick off the season tonight. I'm not sure what to expect. I'm not asking for a prediction and I'm not making one. But I would say that coming into the year because of some of the changes, I'm cautiously optimistic that we will see a bit different version of this team. It's a fresher team. It's a younger team. It's a team that I think is going to have better wheels. The depth on the depth in their defense group is out. It's just crazy for how deep they are. And you know how you know whether your team has improved a lot. The blues had to cut two or three players that no question what it made last year's

1:08:11round. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It might be even more than two or three. And listen, you know, Joel Hofer was just a magnificent gold tender last year. I don't see any reason to think he's going to fall off the mountain top or whatever. They got to clean up special teams. They need more secondary scoring. They need to win. They need to get two points out of more overtime games because that's where they were really, really bad last year. And if they can't get two points more often, they may have a chance to make the playoffs, but that could cost them the playoffs if they don't pick up those two points instead of one. They got to do that a lot more often. Yeah, I would agree. Tough night tonight with Dallas because Dallas is really good. But you know, one game does not make a season that doesn't change anything good or bad. You got to win. It doesn't mean you're going to win the division. You got to lose. It doesn't mean you're doomed. Yeah, I've a lanch after that. But you know, the other thing, the other thing that blues top line is legit. Yeah. It's just legit.

1:09:12Last year when they were on the ice, on a per 60 minute basis, when Thomas and Snuggard Holloway were on the ice, the blues outscored the other team. This is per 60 minutes. 6.48 goals to 1.33 goals. Is that is that dominant or what? I'd say more than five to one's pretty good. Yeah, right. That'll work. I'll take that ratio for a full season. I'm really looking forward to the blues. I am. You know, to finish that thought out, I know, I know it's modern hockey. This is not in any way a knock on the blues or their coaching staff. I just hope that if there's a sign of a slow period that we don't just start shuffling that line up because you got to change things because that group really works. Yeah. The whole lineup shuffling things has never interested me that much. I mean, I used to cover NHL hockey on a daily basis back in the 70s.

1:10:12It just doesn't interest me. People obsess over it. I have very little interest in it because it's really about individual effort and getting the most out of your talent and extracting that combination of the maximum talent and the maximum effort. If you do that, your team's going to be fine. But you know, constantly shuffling lines, I would argue that you'll never have any continuity to it that way. Amen, brother. All right. We'll talk to you again on Redbird, Rush Hour Burn before now or before we let you go. Tell us about Zaliga. Albert Raid's going to join us top of the hour. Dave Murray will be 335 or 330. Yeah, right after the 330 news, George May he at 4 o'clock, Matt Paulie after that.

1:11:13So we stayed busy today. Real quick. This is sports related. I figured following Bernie, this would be a fun transition to just back into a normal thing because it's sports related, but it's not really sports. But I know I've told Andrew. I know I've told you this many times. I'm sure I brought it up on the air just how kind of weird, myopic and anti social football coaches tend to be at the highest levels. Like, give you college and pro football coaches. They're insane people. They're like crazy people. They don't live in the real world. They don't understand anything that's going on in the real world, which is why I always find it funny that someone like Tommy Tuberville, who's one of those people is now, you know, in the real world. They're just weird. And I saw a story that I knew before, but it reminded me of this great story of how way back in the day at the height of Miami vice, the peak. So this would have been like peak wheeler wearing white pants and a turquoise jacket and penny loafers just to look like Don Johnson. Probably ninth grade for me. Go on.

1:12:14Oh, ninth grade. Ninth grade. Eight ninth grade is when this was the biggest. So with peak Miami vice, it's the number one show on television. Don Johnson and Philip Michael Thomas, they get to visit the Miami dolphins. They're huge dolphins fans. And they're, you know, they're out of the game and they get to invite it into the locker room afterward to meet the players. They get to meet the coaching staff. Don Shula is the head coach for the Miami dolphins at the time. Hall of Famer, one of the all time greats. And they get to meet Don Shula and Don Shula meets them and he shakes their hand. He's like, I just got to tell you what you guys do for our community is unbelievable. You guys are. You know, you're always welcome here. You're the best. We totally, we just, we really respect the work that you do. And they look at each other after that and they're like, does he think we're actually police officers? Didn't know they were on a TV show. He thought they were actually Miami vice officers who were real officers as opposed to like

1:13:14the two biggest TV stars on the planet. Oh, I was thinking you were saying like the characters on the show. I also thought it was happening. Like this. And then he told me life, they met Don Shula and Don Shula did not recognize that two of the most popular TV stars in the world at the time when TV was at its peak when the whole world watched TV and broadcast TV. Yeah. He was so in the bubble. He had no idea that they were famous. That's really fun. He thought they were just cops. Yeah. Somebody said like, yeah, they're with Miami vice. He goes bet. Yeah. And he's like going on this long thing about what you do for our community is the greatest and we appreciate you and you're always welcome here. And those guys got to look to each other like he totally doesn't know who he is. That's really funny. That is what football coaches are like at the highest levels. They don't even live in the real world the rest of us.

1:14:48It's Sophia with enough Franklin with the Y and if you're looking for some bubble gum dumb dumb podcast, then you are in the wrong place, baby. Whether I'm reminiscing on the trials and tribulations of working in the corporate world to recapping today's latest reality TV show, you're going to want to pull up a chair and stick around. It's a good time and always 100% unfiltered. All on list in this video with an F wherever you got your podcasts. Parents weekend at KU, something our next guest, Alvin Reed knows a little bit about. Oh, yes. So he has been been been there as a student. You know, not never have been there as a parent, but have been there on this weekend. Yeah. You know what the board, I'm on and going to games and whatnot. So yeah, it's a big weekend. It's a big weekend for paying 600 hours. Staying to super. Yeah, Dave said they said they're basically going to stay in Kansas City. No kidding. They're staying outside in Oberlin because it's so crazy.

1:15:49I would stay in Oberlin Park. Yeah. Or I, um, I'd like to go to a price line independence is not that far. Okay. A backway down to large. So that whole idea we're like now. When you were a student, did you like parents weekend? Making my freshman year. That was that was that was it. So yeah, my parents did the same thing. It was only freshman year. Yeah. And part of it was the huge gap in terms of distance. They were up in Michigan. I'm down in Miami. Even far as expensive and like I say, they were in St. Louis and there. But then I was also I, uh, I worked for the football team. Every time I see you be busy. So I was, yeah, I literally was working. Yeah. And when so it was, it was always fun. Parents weekend was fun because, uh, between, uh, boosters and donors and parents of team and parents, it was, it started Wednesday with us. And, you know, you're not supposed to be giving away free, teray, jerseys and Karen, but coach and come in and say like, Hey, can we get, uh, teray, jersey for so and so parents or whatever and put their name on it?

1:16:51And all that kind of stuff. So yeah, it was, it was always a busy week, but it was fun. We'd even following this week locally. He'd been following the, uh, the, uh, mayor walking out of the meeting. Well, the mayor, the board of all the men, all that stuff going on. Yeah, we talked about shared ties to the bulletin ahead last week. Yeah, we did not hear. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, right. I, you know, I, I don't want to say I gave her a pass, but my reaction to that was not as strong as other people's were. I said like she's, it's kind of old school talk. And I said, what she's saying is she doesn't trust. Right. She and all of it at all. And then he's like, uh, you know, place both sides against the middle. I, he could be considered a trader and traders get shot. You know, so I'm not excusing it, but I got what she was trying to say. And she was trying to be purposely bombastic. So it, you know, it, it is what it is. What is it? So I, I, I know, I know what I'm going to ask him to ask it in a dumb guy way because I think it's hilarious because what are we even doing with a censure? Like what does that even mean?

1:17:51What is that? Or I mean, I know what it means. It means you're going to condemn the actions, but it doesn't carry anything. What like what's the point of it all? And if she had said that I, Sharon has gone off on me before. Okay, past you. She's been a little bit, but you know, the American or whatever. Sharon is what Sharon is. And if she had said that about me, I probably would have said like Sharon seriously. Now I could really make a fuss about this, but you know, it's not even worth it. Right. You, you, you could have said like, you know, I expect stupid stuff like that to come out of Sharon ties his mouth just like some stupid policies come out of her mouth. And that would have been the end of it. But this I don't know, you know, and I understand we live in this somewhat violent city and this somewhat violent nation. I mean, that is part of it. And obviously if you turned it around and the that line had been thrown at her by someone else, I think it would be a big deal. Well, it would if this is kind of like an inner family squabble.

1:18:53We all of them and kind of think, now that's one thing. Like, I don't think anybody should call up an element said like, you ought to be shouting the head. That should be looked into. So maybe I'm being, you know, maybe I'm contradicting my own argument. Which I guess I am, but I, I, it just didn't bother me that I get it. No, I totally get that. It just at some point, at some point we just need to act like grownups. I'm sure what if, I mean, that what if President Trump had said that? Well, then because imagine the the churn of the news cycle. Yes, because it's like because it's the kind of comment where it's like, like you said, Alvin, she is being purposely bombastic. So then why be surprised whenever there's a huge reaction to that? Well, I, I hear you now, and this is not just, this is not targeted at Donald Trump. This is targeted at the fact that I think the president of the United States shouldn't say things like that. Yeah, I mean, you're the president. I would argue that none of them should know that. I'm saying, really, if you're an elected official, you shouldn't say something like that.

1:20:00I don't know if it's, maybe it's a disrespect for the board of all of them in it. They're just so, it's just so, you know, I guess is that where you're going? Yeah, maybe because they're not that big of a deal. It's just so hooter village, sometimes around here that it's hard to take. There's nothing special. Yeah, it's more, it's more in line with kind of what happens. Right. I get you. And that's, and that's sad that I should maybe, I mean, it can be sad and true. Right. And so maybe that's maybe that is part of my reaction. Yeah. Like I, that just doesn't shock me coming from anybody on our board of all. Right. I, well, that in and of itself is a pretty big indictment. Yes. And we can't, we can't act like grownups. I, you know, I feel like the alderman had been being pretty good lately. Yeah. Like, have I heard of a big scandal? No, this is what you're right. Rachel, in that maybe that's one reason this was kind of a little bit bigger deal than because there had been no real news coming out of it.

1:21:00And I don't mean like real news, but no stupid stuff. Right. Yeah, no petty stuff. So that's why this, I guess maybe got pushed to the front. Yeah. Should she have said that? No. Should she be censored and take it off? But it doesn't even mean anything. All it means is we're telling you that was bad. And they've already told her that. Yeah. Like it doesn't, it doesn't, to my knowledge, doesn't carry any weight. It doesn't come with any punishment, right? You could be, you could be removed from committee. So it's one of those like, this is step one. Yes. Right. But then you would have to be removed from committees. And then she would have her legal folks step in and say like, you can't do that because you, you know, you could start getting into that suspension of first, their amendment rights and blah, blah, blah. You know, anyone wants to go down that lane for this? I don't think that's, it doesn't warrant that much discussion. Just don't do it again, Sharon. Okay. We're going to have a problem if you say something like that again. I think that, do you guys think that like, not this specific thing, but just the silliness

1:22:02that we see non-stop with the board of aldermen with the fighting in all different areas of city government, city, the county council, right? Is that just everywhere? Is, are we, we doing it worse? It's, it's more prevalent than it ever has been, but I can't say it's everywhere. Okay. Right. Right now. Is that happening in Kansas City? No, no, not that I, not at the moment. Because we don't live there. Those things. But I read the Kansas city page. I'd, I'd, I'd go online and read it every day. There is nothing like this. Okay. Right. Now they have, they've got some issues. Yeah, they got their own different problems. Right. That's some things where I said, like, man, this is, you wonder why things don't get fixed. And it's like, we can't, we can't get any of these parties to function as adults, let alone get problems fixed. Well, okay. When they reduced from 28 to 14, that was the first step. Now of that 14, you still have got, I would say 10 of the 14, are still old school. And I don't mean that a negative way. They've just been around all the time. Then because old school is still hanging on, then the younger ones that get elected are

1:23:04already in somebody's camp. Give it another three election cycles. Give it another decade. And then I think you'll start electing people that just don't have any allegiance to, to the, to the past. And I think some of the nonsense will, will stop. Why it picked up in the county, I gave, it all, I guess centers around San Pedro, whether you like San Pedro or not. But Kevin the whole time, I was growing up here all the time, I went, move back. You went to county council meeting, they'd be like 45 minutes long. And 15 minutes of it was giving out awards and, and, and, and, and, and, then they did the business, everybody went home. Yeah. You know, Alvin, you just said, folks are entrenched in the past. And I feel like last week, maybe we referenced just people staying in politics for a long time and different, like, legacies that kind of that. Why do you feel like St. Louis is so entrenched in that? Well, I think part of it is job for life. You know, it's good work if you could get it kind of thing.

1:24:04And what are you going to do if, if you've been a, I mean, a lot of the all of them have jobs and have professions, I get it. But whatever it is that you get out of being an all of them, and I guess they don't want to turn loose. And it might be free cardinal tickets for all I know. But I, you know, I don't know why anybody would want to do it forever, forever. Yeah. I can get by somebody would want to do it for a period of time. Right. Yeah. I think any of us would say like, Hey, you don't even have to run, but you can serve as, in this elected office for two years or for four years. I've said that about, like, you know, they call me up and said like, Alvin, you know, you, you want to be an interim mayor for 18 months? I say, Oh, yeah. That'd be great. Why? Because you do this at any other thing for 18 months, I'd said like, no, because I would only have to do it for 18 months. Yeah. You're not going to run again. I know. I didn't get out. Get some stuff done. Right. And then you don't, if you run for office, I think you have, if you run for the, you know, Congress in the house, I think if you win, you got like health care for life. Mm hmm. I have a pension and a pension.

1:25:05And so I think I don't think you have to stay or win three elections to qualify. Yeah. But you don't get to be super rich. If you don't stay for a while to take advantage of all that sweet insider trading. I would, the opportunities to speaking engagements, to being paid to be someplace, even though you don't do anything, that's sweet life. You know, like we're going to this place and I'm getting paid $10,000. Well, what are you going to do? Sit there and listen, but I'm being paid to be there. And that's not, that's not tough work. You know, and then you would say, well, it all goes through the campaign or it all goes over there. Yeah. You keep a lot of it legally. Mm hmm. And the insider trading, yeah. Well, well, yeah. Yeah. In the gully's people that were like just, you know, AOC's a bartender and MTG's just a person in Georgia and all of a sudden they're just multi, multi, multi, multi. And that has been going on forever, forever. Forever. And I think the, one of the book of lists or one I used to like before there was actually all these trivia contests.

1:26:05When I always used to read trivia books, I was a kid teenager growing up and whatnot. And one of them had listed like members of Congress about what they, what they were doing and then when they left Congress and it was in the hundreds of, now it's in the millions of dollars, but back then it was in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. And people would literally were making like he was a, you know, in insurance sales or something like that and made the, you know, he made the gold cup insurance, whatever. And it was like $30,000. And then they left and they were worth, you know, like $650,000. And back then that was astronomical. Okay. So now it's even more, but that whole thing where like mysteriously people who get elected Congress, they're gonna get rich. Right. Now some people, and I'm not, I'm not hating on that and wagging them, but and wagging them was, you know, kind of, you know, got rocks before she even came a congresswoman, but a lot of people who, you know, had normal jobs and had normal careers who then are in Congress 20 years and they come out of Congress and they're multi-millionaire. And technically, didn't you just go to work and get paid, but ever you get paid to be

1:27:09a congressman? Obviously not. You learned all kind of profitable, useful information that you can throw to use in them stock market. I'm not saying they all did something illegal, but it's legal. But it's just, it should be, it's unethical. It's unethical and they should stop that. I think if you're in Congress, I think if you're in the traditional executive, you know, branch of government, I don't think you should be able to do, I don't think you should be able to dab on the stock market. Nope. And everything you have when you go in, managed by someone else. It's frozen. Yep. Right. Because anyway, you look at it. Well, I never, I never knew that this was going to happen or that was going to happen. Well, okay, let's say I did have $100,000 to buy Boeing stock. And I knew that Boeing was going to get this naval jet contract. And if I knew that, I'd say like, well, you know what, this is a little bit down the line, but I'm going to buy a bunch of Boeing.

1:28:10Alvin, have a great weekend, buddy. Good to see you. Good to see you. Go to the plans, man. No, watch football, coach baseball. There we go. Let's give it a shot. All right. It is 320 and this time check is sponsored by Paramount Men's Medical Center. Hey, it's Jen Hatmaker. Here's what I've learned in midlife. Joy isn't the reward you earn after all the work is done. Joy is the work. That's what this new series on For the Love is all about. The sacred, yes. It's choosing delight, rest, and pleasure on purpose. Because saying yes to yourself, that's the thing that finally lets you fill your table with everybody else.

1:29:11Come find your sacred, yes, with me. Follow and listen to For the Love wherever you get your podcasts. So the crew here were just hanging on. Keeping it going till the weekend. We've got Dave Murray coming up after the 330 news, George Mayhey, four o'clock, Matt Paulie after that. A bunch of other stuff mixed in and around all of that. Guys, I saw, you know, to me growing up, there were multiple like October traditions, right? I always have Halloween at the end of the month so you build toward that and it's spooky season. So you got your horror movies and you know, you got big old skeletons on front lawns, which really wasn't that big a thing. I was a kid, but obviously it's been for now. And but you also have like false stuff, right? Like it's we're back into the pumpkin spice this and apple cider that and it's football season and all that. You know what else it used to be more? And I just saw this in my neighborhood two days ago that I have not seen this in years. What's that? Somebody TP to house on my street. Oh, no, I don't like that. I've seen a lot of it around town. Really?

1:30:11Yeah. I felt like it went away and then I saw it the other day. I'm like, wait a minute. What? I thought that was a thing that died out in the 90s. A homecoming thing. Oh, is that all that is? I think so. Because I don't think anybody on my street is a high school student. Maybe they were just being mean. I mean, it's actually really mean to the homeowner who has to clean it up. If you get it way up there in the street, it's like, I just have all this in my trees now. It's funny how it became this like, haha, funny prank, but it's a pain in the ass. It's a pain. Especially when you get like, condensation in the morning or it rains and that stuff is just there for months. Yeah. There was one time where like people who lived near us got TP'd and we got some of the collateral damage because they egged all of the mailboxes. They're like, oh, eggs in the mailbox. In the mailboxes. Yes. Like, well, this is a huge bummer to me, the innocent bystander. Like, I'm not a part of whatever. Yeah. Yeah. You know, got this going.

1:31:11Yeah. I mean, we did that stuff in high school because we were stupid. But in our cases, we did it only to people we knew because otherwise, what's the funny about of that? That's true. If it's not someone you know, it's not what's the funny part. Now you're just being a jerk to people. Dave Hines on the stream brings up a great point. He said after COVID, how was that still a thing? But I remember, you know, during the toilet paper shortage, I was watching a show and they had like toilet papered someone's house in the show and the online chatter was just like, can you believe this? This is crazy. Like, we would never consider doing this now. And I do wonder if that, you know, since we've lived through a toilet paper shortage, we're a little more precious with our toilet paper. I mean, like everything else, it's more expensive now. Yeah, it is. Yep. The take out of mortgage to be able to TP someone's house. Well, but you're getting the cheap stuff, right? I mean, I think you know that. Oh, no, that's true. You're not getting like the double layered, really, you know, quilted cloth ones. You're getting, you're getting the finish of the thin nonsense that you can buy for a nickel.

1:32:41That's Friday on DGS, Dave Alper, Parents Weekend and KU. We do have one Dave here. Hello, one Dave. Dave, hello there. How's it going? Oh, that's great. Parents Weekend. Great. I don't care what school it is. Did you like it as a parent? Oh, I loved it. Did you? Absolutely. Loved it. Yeah. I feel like we did it once and I was not really thrilled because it's like nothing. Everything's crowded. Nothing's cheap. Everything's a lot. Yeah, we got to remember that that, you know, my son went to USC and he went to USC during the peak Carol years. Oh, so you would make chaos. Football games were a fan. Yeah. Well, that's the point. The energy on the campus was great. Well, my kid was at Alabama during the Saban years. It was pretty good. There you go. But it was also like just, it was just too much chaos. Yeah. In the next few years after that, we're like, you know, we're just going to pick a different weekend to go visit. Yeah, what I found is that we go to campus, especially for, you know, we go Friday, Friday

1:33:43night, go out to dinner. Okay. Do that thing. Do the football thing on Saturday. But we stay about an hour to the south. Okay. See, that's what, that's kind of what Dave is doing. Staying outside a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. That was always great. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. What your kid doesn't want you around the whole time. See, that's what I was going to ask you next is like, did college student Dave like it? Because college student Kevin was like, you guys don't have to come down here. It's okay. You guys can see up. Oh, it's fine. I don't mind. No, I wouldn't have my feeling. I don't see what I do. Where I live and all this. The clowns I hang around. I mean, I got to clean my room. I'm a college guy. I don't clean my room. I got to go through all that. I got to do laundry because I can't have all my dirty laundry on the floor because my mom's going to be like judging me. Then you got to change all your plans. I think she judged you way before that. No, I'm sure she knew. But in my head, I wanted to not be judged. You could handle that in your house, but it's not in college. Yeah. That's a good point. It's a good point. Plus, you know, and again, I'm not saying it was terrible.

1:34:43It's just like, you know, you're a college kid. You're like, I want to go out. I want to do the, you know, I don't want to sit with mom and dad at the football game. I want to go sit with my friends, especially freshman year. I mean, you want to see mom and dad. There's no question. But it's now you've been on campus for what, three weeks maybe. Right. You're just getting started. You got, you got your sequence down. Oh, no, they're coming from parents week. Yeah. That's all right. What are we, what are we looking at like this weekend? I know I want to ask you a bit about the playoffs in baseball because it's apparently going to be pretty rough for Dodgers fans this weekend in LA. It is wicked hot. Yeah. Just give me idea. Yeah. We are, we don't live on the coast, but Laguna is a coastal town. Right. Right. We're 99 degrees right now doggy and it's a dry heat. It is bone. I mean, you walk outside. You can feel your, your lips just curling in the dryness. All right. Let's settle this. Right. Dry heat to me was always preferable to the humidity.

1:35:47And I go my, my own example, like I went to college in Miami. So there's no more humidity in the United States of America than in Miami, though, because you're surrounded by the Everglades and the oceans and there's just, it's, water's always in the air. And we got sent out to Fresno for, for baseball for the regionals. Okay. And it was like a hundred degrees and we were out there like, this is nothing. We felt nothing. Yeah. This is great. Oh, yeah. I did the same thing. I went to graduate school in Wyoming and I do remember walking to class, you know, mile, mile and a half lived off campus, but the only thing that's there is the campus. And it was like minus 20 degrees. I think, and it, but it was, you know, 2% humidity. And I was comfortable walking. There wasn't any wind, you know, you know, that kind of the wind would make a big difference. Oh, yeah. It was like, well, this isn't bad. But yeah, dry heat is way more comfortable to do. Okay. Super heat. Okay. Now we have it. We have it from the weather expert, Dave Murray. No more debates about that. So we are looking pretty great this weekend, though. Yeah.

1:36:48We are really, we're 72 right now. The dew points 56. It is super outside the evening, clear skies, evening temperatures will be dropping through the 60s over a couple of hours. So it will get cool and it will be chilly overnight. 51. I think you get away from the urban environment. There could be some 48s and 49s out there. Tons of sunshine, Saturday delightful 72 degrees kind of like what it is right now. Then Saturday night, clear in 53, Sunday, sunny 78, a dry cold front comes through, cool front, Sunday night, clear skies Sunday night 54. So Monday is a couple of degrees cooler. If you have the Northwest flow gets reinforced, sunny 73 on Monday, 70s on Tuesday. I think we're back into the mid 80s, come Wednesday, Thursday, probably Friday of next week. No super heat, but yeah, we're in October now. So if we got into the upper 80s, that's kind of warm. Man, that's exactly what Dave was asking you about yesterday. Are we going to get back into that apparently? Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we are.

1:37:48Yeah, we are. Yeah, we are. We're trying to negotiate with Dave. So Dave can control the weather for us. I mean, don't you know, that's how it works, Rachel. That's right. We're not going to be machine. All we got to do is be nice to Dave and he'll fix it for us. And her and her feeds me some cash every once in a while. Yeah, I mean, I want it to be chilly because I am ready for fall, but as long as it's not super hot, it's fine. Right. And I love how I'm negotiating on. Oh, yeah, right. That's what I'm trying to say. Well, we are. We're trying to negotiate with Dave so Dave can control the weather for us. I mean, don't you know, that's how it works. We're trying to make some cash every once in a while. There's perfect for them. I can't even pretend I like me. I'm miserable. I hate this. I want a nice, cool day. That's what I want. No, I love today. You will be you walk out that side of that building this evening when you're done. You got to look here. This is nice. Well, I know. I don't actually go under the desk. I don't actually go on side much. Well, you got to go from the building to your car. So for that little bit, you have a big garage. Yeah. That's a good point. So do you guys ever go outside after you've been inside all day and go like, man, I'm missing out on something.

1:38:55Sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes, but I'm outside a lot. I am too. So like, that's why I wonder, because there are days where I'm like, I must spend more time either on my screened in porch or I must go outside because I want to soak in the day. But I wonder if everyone feels like that. Yeah. There are some times I feel like I go outside just to fall out even in the summer because in my man cave, like the basement level, when we keep the main floor, you know, 70 something, 70. Well, it's like 65 in the basement. So I sometimes I'm cold. I mean, I need to go out into that heat just to fall out for a second. I did that as a kid. I remember specifically being like, I'm so chilly. I need to go outside. And then you're out there for like two minutes. You're like, okay, that's enough. I'm good. Let's go back in the AC. I'm going to degrees. I really like to go back into the basement. So just like warming up your dinner. We don't want to get too hot. Too hot just a little bit. What is my headlines, right? I would love to. I think I have some stories that are really going to interest you guys. Let's start with this one about a man being charged over an AI generated photo hoax.

1:39:57Okay. So this didn't happen in the United States. It actually happened in Singapore, a 30 year old man used AI to create a bogus photo of a saltwater crocodile in pandan reservoir. This is a popular spot for runners and kayakers. And then he sent this photo that he generated to a colleague. The colleagues start sharing it because they're freaked out. And the image triggered two days of suspended work and water sport activities. While authorities were searching for the saltwater crocodile that did not exist, the National Water Agency eventually determined the picture was fake and called the police. And now this man has been charged with transmitting a false message and obstructing justice. Does his friend that spread it around get trouble too? I don't know that the friend knew it was fake. I know, but he spread it. But the other guy only sent it to one person.

1:40:57But if you don't know that it's fake and you're trying to help other people. I guess. You know what I mean? I don't know that he necessary. Unless we all need to check every photo that were sent and make sure it's not AI. Kevin, Kevin sounded like Judge Judy here. No, no, no, no. I didn't get it. The guy that created it should definitely be in trouble. Like I agree, he started a thing that's, you know, that's became a real problem. I think it's like making a false 911 call. So it's a similar idea to that. I just feel like the person that helped spread it should also face something. I get what you're saying and not knowing the whole situation. I am making an assumption here. But my assumption was, oh no, there's a crocodile. People shouldn't be using this reservoir right now. So I don't necessarily know that he did anything wrong. But again, that's just what I'm assuming based on my limited information. Now this, the man who created the image knew he did something wrong. Because he deleted the image and the Gemini app log history on his phone that showed that he made it using the AI.

1:41:58So yeah. I don't know about you guys, but I feel like I check everything that I see. Anything that's even remotely either too good or too bad to be true. Like it seems too extreme. I always have to check to see if it's AI. I'm gonna. I feel like it's an extra step that I wish I didn't have to take. Yeah, I used to get like during severe weather. People would say, oh yeah, sure of a tornado. And you would know right away that, okay, first of all, that's not from the St. Louis area. Okay. It's just not just because of the terrain and the vegetation. Right. Whatever. And look at that. The circulation's going the wrong way. Now that can happen, but not the size that's dead in the center of the arch. This is crazy. It's an Australian one. It goes backward. Let's see here. Okay, speaking of AI, I'd like to introduce you to Taku. This is a new AI robot that loads washers, folds towels and stocks shelves.

1:43:00So Dino robotics said that the robot that they have designed is built to perform full workflows on its own. So household chores like this. The company says the technology is already being used in hotels, restaurants and laundromats. And the robot is intended to help people add value to their day to day lives by taking on workplace tasks. See, this is what we were originally promised. Yeah, like our daily lives would be easier. Exactly. Like Rosie, the robot would fold my shirts for me instead of me doing it. The robots and the AI would take care of mundane tasks so that we could focus on being intellectual and being creative. Other mundane tasks. Or just part and round playing video games. Right. But instead it's been like, oh no, we're going to take all the creative jobs. Yeah, no, don't do that. So no, I mean, I guess this is exciting. And stuff like this could really help if you're like a senior citizen having a hard time moving around or someone with disabilities. This could be extremely beneficial.

1:44:00So if something keeps going on. Let's just stay in your house or your apartment. Right. Longer than you would have been able to watch. Otherwise, yeah. One more story for you guys and then we'll go to break. The chicken pock shot is tied to a big drop in shingles for young people. So those of us who grew up with the chicken pock shot, did you get one? Andrew, do you remember getting one? I don't remember getting one. I sure I did. I definitely did because it was like a big deal. My mom gave me a toy. Actually, I got to go to the store and pick out a little play makeup set. Sure. Yeah, but I could only play with it like unerrified supervision. I don't get that too much. Go on. But yeah, I remember specifically being like, you know what? If it gets me a little makeup shot, a little makeup settle. Get a couple more shots. That wasn't so bad. But I remember getting it. A new analysis of electronic health records from more than 85 million US patients find that

1:45:01shingles rates have dropped notably in people 35 and under since the chicken pock shot was added to the childhood schedule in 1995. And yeah, it's dropped. Cases of shingles have dropped sharply indicating that the chicken pock shot has a long term impact on that. Yeah. Pretty cool. That's good because most of us that live that were going through childhood before that we had to get the chicken pocks and then just get those shingles vaccine. There were parties. Yeah. Parties to expose your kids to just so you can get it over with. Yeah. Isn't that weird? That's crazy dude. That's like Dave. Come on. That's so 70s. I know. 60s. The 50s. So much in the before times. Dave, have a good weekend. Thanks. See you guys. Bye. Sometimes it feels like the news is full of things that have never happened before.

1:46:17And that is not exactly true. But it may have happened this very week hundreds or thousands of years ago. I'm Sally Helm, host of the podcast History This Week from the History Channel. Trade embargoes, Thomas Jefferson tried them. Rent too high. We've been arguing about that for a while. Each episode is proof. The past isn't that far away. Listen to History This Week available now on Apple Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah. I've got some good flashbacks for you. What happened on this day in history? Let's see. 76 years ago in 1950, the first Peanuts comic strip featuring Charlie Brown and Snoopy appeared in nine newspapers. But it wasn't called Peanuts. It was called Lil folks. Yeah. Which is actually pretty hard to say. Try to say it. Yeah. Lil folks.

1:47:17Lil folks. Little folks. Well, 67 years ago in. It should be Snoopy and all the boring kids. Snoopy is so great. I like Snoopy. I like Snoopy and Woodpecker. The rest of them they can just go away. Woodstock. Did I say Woodpecker? I don't know. Woodstock. I make seem up with Woody Woodpecker. Snoopy, if you're listening, I love you. 67 years ago in 1959, Chevy debuted the Corvair, a rear engine compact car. And the Twilight Zone. And the Twilight Zone also debuted on CBS. 67 years ago. Let's jump ahead a bit, shall we? 34 years ago in 1992, the Mighty Ducks was released. I love this movie. It stars Emilio Estevez as a lawyer sentenced to coach hockey as his community service. And it's so realistic. That's why I like it so much. I bet. Yeah. I know you guys probably grew up on that, right? You were little kids and really enjoyed it. Yes. And you also liked it because it's accurate.

1:48:19It's like really accurate to the hockey and stuff. He said, he said, he said, this is how it go when you watch kids. He said, it's just like that when they hit the puck or whatever. It's a kids movie and I was. And I was 21 years old. You think I was watching kids movies when I was 21 years old? Yes. No. You were watching Beauty and the Beast and the Beast. Yeah. Right. That was torture. I had to watch that with my kid sister, which he was a little one. One more for you guys. 21 years ago in 2005, Brad Pitt's divorce from Jennifer Aniston became final. Okay. In 2005, I was 14 years old. I cannot begin to describe to you how devastated I was. You got to be into that. I was so sad. I was like, no, not Rachel from Friends and the Hot Guy. Stay together forever. Yeah. And the game's out. Shining like a work of art.

1:49:20Last four or six on Friday here on DGS Dave, as we mentioned, off today, back on Monday, doing family weekend. I should say parents weekend in Lawrence, Kansas at KU. The rest of us here, George Mayhem is normal Friday spot. What's up, George? What else are you doing? Good, man. What a day. How about that? What a difference of day, man. Did you scooter in? It was too cold to scoot. I was on it this morning. And I just went, oh my gosh. It was, and it was 65. It was really quite nice. And I thought, you know, if this was 65 in February, I'd be in a t-shirt. And today, I turned around and went back and got, you know, long sleeves and long pants. But yeah. But it was kind of nasty and, and, and cloudy and, and windy. And now I'd, I'd get on it right now. Matter of fact, I think I will get on it when I leave. So that's funny. Yeah. I never thought that, I want that phrase. It's too cold to scoot. I love that. Well, George is just telling me right before we went on the air wheels, he just landed a huge interview that I am very excited.

1:50:20I did agree to do George's interview. No, it's, it's really cool. No, I've always got stupid jokes. So yeah, Danny Meyer was in town last weekend to, it was really, St. Louis should feel proud because Danny Meyer hasn't put a book out in 20 years. He's only written one book and it was called Setting the Table. And this book became the Bible for restaurant industry people. It became required reading for everybody I know had to read this book and should have read this book. It was really, it was, you know, just, just a, a life changing book for restaurant people. It's, it was about hospitality and what he called enlightened hospitality and how people should be treated. And it starts with him treating his employees the right way. You treat them the right way. They'll treat their customers the right way. And then all of a sudden, the community starts to warm up to you. And then the community starts to love you. And anyway, that's this cycle that starts with what he called enlightened hospitality.

1:51:24So this was, this was a big deal. And Danny Meyer, you know, he was the former St. Louis and that went to New York and introduced this, this hospitality to New Yorkers. And it said in my interview, I go, that does sound like a jerk. Isn't this basically good old Midwestern friendliness, you know, empathy and decency and kindness. And treating you how you want to be treated. And he goes, you're exactly right. That's all it is. And it's like this revelation in New York. It was like, what, who is this guy? What's he talking about? So this book became a very, very big deal. And his second book, he has written, he released it last weekend ahead of the national release was on Tuesday of this week. But he comes to St. Louis to release his book. And I think that's very cool because he, he was also in town. I said, you're in town for something else. He goes, yeah, it was my, my reunion, high school reunion at John Burroughs. 50th reunion. I said, well, now, now I know how old you are.

1:52:27And I don't have to ask you that question. So thank you very much. It's a surprise. Yes. So we started off with that. And you know, basically talked about his new book, which is about culture and how you scale culture and how important culture is for restaurants and and throughout the book. I haven't read the whole thing, but tons of anecdotes and examples and his more of his mantras. Anyway, the guy is, is brilliant. And he's the nicest guy in the world. You'd meet him and he'd be your, your best buddy instantly. And he's not for as big a deal as he is. He's, he's a super nice guy. He's not intimidating. And everybody loves Danny Meyer. And fortunately, I've known him for a while. I've interviewed him a couple of times. And he took time out of his, his, his whirlwind weekend to talk with me. So that's awesome. Did he come down to where you guys record arch eats or?

1:53:27Well, that's a good, no, he didn't. And I, you know what? I was just damn glad to have him agree to do it. And I said, Danny, can I bring a camera? Is it okay? We were going to meet where he was staying in the woods. Oh, there you go. And I said, can I bring, he goes, I don't care. Bring everything you want. And so I go, okay. I'm going to bring a camera. And I thought, okay, I do like a two shot, whether it's just both of us in the same frame. And I thought, no, I'm going to take two cameras. So I brought two cell phones, two tripods, set them up. Let's get you to do it. Is it some editing? Well, yeah, I mean, you know, so Danny comes in and he goes, oh, he goes to care. I said, yeah, I said, but, you know, I said, I got to tell you this, you know, I've never done this before. I said, and I said, and I'm using you, Danny Meyer. Yeah. One better way to start. That's fine. And so we, you know, I pushed record and, you know, kind of set us up in our two things. Anyway, I've got somebody. We do have an editor who put these, who put these videos together. And he did a really good job. And it's up on Nessio Meg.

1:54:30There you go. I'm going to go right now. And it just went up this morning, about 32, 33 minutes. And we get into everything from, you know, different chapters in the book to, I wanted to ask him about things like AI and things like, you know, what, you know, what are you doing with influencers, Danny? You know, I really want to know because that's what everybody's question. It's a really good question. So we get into, you know, talking about his book, which is what he was here to talk about, but also some, you know, current hot buttons, which is, you know, a lot of things that are not buttons, which he doesn't hesitate. And you know, what everything he says is, he's just one of these guys that he doesn't arm or, or say, you know, but everything that comes out of his mouth is really, really brilliant. I mean, he's really a, he's a deep thinker and it comes out, you know, some of us like me, stutter and stammer and just try to get, get a sentence out. And he's just brilliant with everything he says. So I was just thankful that he was here. And he was, you know, the end, it's like, and I'm shake his hand. Thank you. It's not no handshake. No tugs.

1:55:32I'm hugs me. So, so the big Glover school. Yeah. Yeah. It was just, it was great. And somebody said, how did it go? And I said, it was perfect. And then, you know, at that point, I flew out of town to go to the wedding in Kansas City. Came back Sunday morning for my grandson's chrysaning. So, man, you've been busy. It was a joy. It took me, but yeah, it's all Tuesday to recover. But yeah, that was one of the joys of my, my job is getting to do stuff like cool. So I've everybody should listen to it because he's, he's quite interesting. Even if you're not interested in the business, just his thoughts on life and how you treat people. It's, it's good stuff. So yeah, that's a bad s. You'll mag.com. I cannot wait to listen to that. Um, your podcast gal. It's almost like service matters in a service industry. Yeah. How about that? What a concept. I know it's all these common sensical things. You know, consistency. Right. Oh, really? I never, yeah, it's just doing it. It's it's it's it's it's it's doing it every day. It's producing it. Right. And making it happen every day. And and he's, you read this book. He spent a lot of time thinking about all this stuff. He just didn't, didn't dream this up. Some of his concepts about leadership. And, and, and you know, there's, there's a couple pages on, on how he's developed his, his mantras and his theories about things. He's, you know, seems to be just this normal guy. But he's,

1:56:55he thinks about it. And, and yeah, and Shake Shack. His, you know, that's, that was his grand slam home run. And, and there's now I did my homework. There's over there's 710, I think Shake Shacks. And, you know, he goes, that's, you think that's a lot, that's a lot of Shake Shacks. Didn't that? I said, yeah, he goes until you think about how many McDonald's there are. I'm going to start bug. He goes, we're just, you know, we're nice size, but we're nothing like that. But, but he's still growing his company. And he's got a couple. He's got one thing in the works that I thought might be the next Shake Shack. It's called daily provisions. But we'll see. I don't know that it's gotten legs like Shake Shack. But, but he sure was fun to talk to. I sure could have, we had 45 minutes. And, you know, I said, I could talk to you all day. Anyway, didn't get to do it. I'm not taking you up on that, George. No, he had, he had books to sign and passes to go. So, thank you, Danny Meyer. One more question for you about Danny George. Did you get to talk to him? Like, is he friends with any current St. Louis restaurant tours? Like, what does he have to say about the St. Louis?

1:57:59Well, and that was one of the questions he's been asked, Danny, this is your hometown. You know, thank you for putting a few Shake Shacks here. But can we get one of your other cool restaurants? Maybe can you do something in your hometown? And he very graciously says, the St. Louis food scene is so strong. He goes, I don't want to compete with it really. Plus a lot of them are his friends. He's he's very good friends with Mike Emerson and with Quitron. Okay. And a couple guys, you know, there's a handful of guys that are. David Choi from Sol Taco there. These guys have hung out with them have have gone to events that he's sponsored in in New York. And so yeah, he's he gets to town, you know, a couple times a year, you know, his parents lived here. I think his mom died fairly recently, but he would come in all the time. He's a huge Cardinal fan. Um, anyway, he's a Danny whenever you want to come in, you know, I'll hang out with you anytime. And so I want to I want to go meet him. I said, I think we're going to be in New York, you know, over the holiday. He goes, give me a call.

1:59:05Awesome. Yeah. Very cool. Check out that podcast. All right. See you. That's Friday on DJ Steve out for the week, which is today. He's out for the next 40 minutes. He'll be back on Monday. Matt Pauli jumping in to join us and obviously we'll be doing the Redbird rush hour here at the top of the hour. And then you got sports up on lines tonight. How you doing, buddy? I'm good. How are you? Good. What's new? You know, just we made it through the week. Just about. We got a pretty great weekend for sports guys. You know, you got four more for baseball. Hi, I'm PJ vote. And I want to tell you about my podcast search engine. We try to make sense of the world. One question at a time. No question too big. No question too small. We will even answer your questions if you send them in. Stuff like what happens when a cemetery goes out of business. What should we do about teens using AI to do their homework? Who buys luggage at the airport luggage store? Follow and listen to search engine in partnership with Odyssey, wherever you get your podcasts.

2:00:16Playoff series kicking off. You've got full a great college football schedule this weekend, including Mizzou and Florida. The blues start tonight NFL on Sunday. This would be pretty great. Baseball really should be more. It's weird that they are willing to be completely inflexible in some areas, but then completely flexible. They had no problem waiting to tell the braves what time their game was going to be until the Padres game ended at one o'clock in the morning. But God forbid that if you have some games and in two games that you start the next series today. Right. Like there's no baseball being played today on a day where there is no. Oh well. Should say this. There's no televised college or pro football of note. Right. There are some college games, but they're not big games. Yeah. It is Friday night lights is the big high school football night throughout the country. But I mean, that's not really your competition. If you're baseball. No, you should. You should be able to start divisional series on the Fridays. And the TV partners do not like that deal with it. I know they do not like that though. They wanted to have the programming set.

2:01:16They can they didn't have the programming set for yesterday. Do it completely dependent. Like that. That's the that's the point that I'm trying to make. In sometimes. They're completely okay. Being on the fly. They were totally fine. Having no clue what time games are going to start for yesterday's game until literally one o'clock in the morning. Right. Yesterday. Right. Yet they and you can be pretty sure that there's going to be a sweep or two in the wild card round. There's always. There's always sweeps. So you can set aside some time on Friday. And if if there ends up being four three game series in the wild card round, then adjust to that. Yeah. One of the things that's going to kill me. I know this is going to happen. I won't kill me dead. It'll just kill me psychologically. Will be what happens when there is an upset in one of these three divisional series and when people start going, oh, the layoff did him in. I've already heard it. The layoff did him in. It's like, no, no, that's not a thing. It's not just like analytics didn't do in the Red Sox because the analytics were used by the Yankees and never to use by everybody that's still playing.

2:02:21The if the layoff was a thing, then it would always be a thing and not just occasionally randomly be a thing in a minority of division series. Yeah. Go look at the percentage of the teams that got the buy that advanced to the championship series out of the divisional series. And it is a. It's like 70 80% yeah. Yeah. Guess what? The the highest rated team in NFL football doesn't advance each week in the playoffs. No. And they don't have a lay like the layoff thing is crazy. The baseball will they do if you're in the top scene in the NFL because you get a whole by week. You do. Yeah. But I mean, that's the equivalent of one game. But still you the point that I'm trying to make is in no other sport. If you have a 25% success rate of a lower seed advancing, do you ever try to make that something? But in baseball, you do because they're just happened to be a layoff. I know it's just nonsense. Yeah. And I find it to be just like fascinating how narratives take over. Even though there's nothing really to back them.

2:03:29Like I forget I figured it was I think it was Mike Petry. Although it might have been Tom Tango who does great analytics work. He's one of the like Godfathers of putting like stat cast together and things like that. They were making the point that like in the regular season, the best teams on the planet only win 65% of their games. Okay, like that's an elite team. That's the Dodgers. You know, that's that's the best of the best they win 65%. But against other elite teams, it's basically a 500 record. So when you're against teams at your level, you're basically a coin flip for whether you win or lose. And that's if you're the best teams in baseball. So of course you get into a playoff series against other playoff teams and there's going to be some randomness to it. Yeah. And actually the point proves that the layoff helps the teams more than it hurts them. I mean, I would rather have the rested team set up exactly the way that I want it. Then have played two or three games in the previous few days. And you can stay sharp. The Dodgers had an inner squad game yesterday. Where did you see they put up the reds as being the team? Yeah. I don't know. Was that just who they played to finish that the season?

2:04:31So yeah, yeah, I think so. I think so. So they didn't want to change the no, I think that was what it was. Yeah, I think that's just simply what it was. All right, let's talk real quick. Mizzou and Florida. What's your expectation? I am surprised that the points, breads only five and a half still. And it's been that way for the whole week. Yeah. I mean, Mizzou's at home. That's that's the thing that they need is homecoming. Yeah. I Jeremy McLean on sports. Yeah. Yeah. Today and I asked me specifically. I'm like, it does. Does homecoming mean anything to the players? Like, no, it does to the crowd. It does to the players. It's just a game. So I don't know if that plays into anything. The fact that they're at home, I think you always give a home team in a conference game, more than a puncher's chance. Usually it's a field goal to start with. And then it's plus or minus from there. So I guess you could save their favorite by five and a half. Really, they're only getting two and a half more than you would expect against a team that's been pretty good. I think Florida's better than Missouri, but that doesn't mean Florida's going to be Missouri. Yeah. And it may not. It doesn't mean they're going to be in by five and a half either.

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