Full Show 10-1-26

0:00We've got all night, let's take a turn Tell me your secrets often remind me Makes us feel better called love I say you won't, I say you Make me crazy but I want you still Makes us feel better called love Good afternoon, San Luis DGS, 1041 FMKMOX Kevin Hawthorne says good afternoon from Lakeland, Florida. What's up, Cav? What's up, Cav? Lakeland. Good spot. Good spot. Where is Lakeland? It's just in the western part of the state, so it's not in the Tampa vicinity. It's not in Tampa, but it's in the Tampa vicinity. Okay, we always stay in Lake City. Yeah, that's our that's our destination when Nick and I drive. And that's way north, right?

1:00Brother is it, because you make it to Lake City and you're like, Florida, and then you have like three more days just getting down to the end of Florida. Yeah, that super long stay. I don't know if you know this. Oh, you trust me. I did because we drove that trip all the time and you'd get to the Florida Georgia line and you'd be like, we're almost there. Ah, I just got third of the trip. I'll get all the way down to Miami. I mean, no joke. Weird the Georgia, Florida line when I had the worst food I've ever had in my life. Oh, boiled peanuts. Yeah, they're not they're not great. It's definitely an acquired taste. There was a it was me and Nick and his friend Will, my second son, and they were 14 and there is a lady who looked really scary like out of widows Bay. She was like translucent, made of glass and she was selling bags of warm boiled peanuts and I'm like, well, this is the greatest thing ever. We got to do this. Oh my lord. Third worst thing I've ever had in my mouth.

2:02Did you ever eat those? No, they're awful. Yeah, you found them too, right? Yeah, we were on our senior trip and we were down south and it was like we got at the Spencer in my class was like originally from the south and he was like, we got to stop the van. We got to get boiled peanuts. They're so good. So finally, we pulled over. We got them and I said we shouldn't have stopped the van. I do not enjoy these. Now, I'd be willing to try them again because it's been 20 years. My favorite food, traveling to Florida is crystal burgers. Love those. They're like a white castle mustard. I want them. I want them. Oh, they're so good. Yeah, so good. They're like an elevated white castle. Yeah, I'd say so. I think they're better. Similar cost. Yeah. Okay, good show. Yep. All right. See you guys. Nice show. You ever stop at a stucky's when you're driving through the south? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Won't that close? Isn't that the place? Yeah.

3:03God, we never stopped there when I was a kid because I guess my dad just didn't care to. Dad's don't stop. No, like if we do, it's like McDonald's. You know, it's always the beaten path. Nothing different than what we would have had up north. But then I did it in college and it was not a good choice. It was a little rundown. Yeah. Little thread bear. Little thread bear. So I am off tomorrow in his parents weekend in Lawrence and Marina are going to go hang out with the girl. But we're staying in Overland Park because it's literally like a thousand dollars for a hotel room in Lawrence. As if the schools themselves aren't taking enough money from families. Yeah. Now all the businesses in the town have to. Well, we call that again. Price gouge. Yeah. I think so. I guess it's okay. It's not emergency though. Right. If it's not emergency, it's not gouging, but whatever it is. Vic says, did you guys hear about the St. Louis guy who is adopted at birth and found out his birth father is Michael McDonald?

4:04Yeah. Steve Harris, good friend of the show, buddy of mine did a great package on K movie about it. And I knew that's where it was going because Nick sent it to me and said, the most Michael McDonald looking guy I've ever seen just found out his dance Michael McDonald. But even halfway through the story, I'm like, is this gonna be Michael McDonald? That's pretty cool. Michael was 14 when he had him. He and his, uh, the guy's mom were both 14 and put him up for adoption. He was adopted by a wonderful family who named him Michael having no idea. Oh boy. And then they were you reunited and it's kind of a beautiful story. You know, as well as that can work out. Right. Because Michael McDonald was super cool about it and said, the hero here are your adopted parents. That's nice. Not me. And but they're like close now and it's really cool. Nice. Yeah, nice story. I like Michael McDonald. I do too.

5:04What's not to like? St. Louis treasure. You guys see this crazy story about Christine, Christina Pike, who they attempted to execute. Yeah. Okay, Andrew, do you know what? Let me tell you that I'll tell everyone else by you. This woman is 50. She's been on death row since she was 18. She tortured and murdered another 18 year old girl because she thought she was making moves on her boyfriend. The boyfriend's in life for good. Another accomplice in life for good. She got the death penalty. So last night in Tennessee, they tried to put her to death. They gave her two death shots, the phenobarbital, but it was stale. It was like an expired box of cookies. Yeah. So it didn't kill her and they take her by ambulance, which is so ironic to me. Like, what are we doing? Let's either get rid of the death penalty or let's figure this out.

6:06You're about to kill this woman. In fact, you're in the process of killing her and now you're taking her to the hospital and bringing her back so you can kill her again. Like, it is just so stupid. It's so stupid. Here's the solution. I'm great with getting rid of the death penalty and just saying, you're going to go away for the rest of your life and it's not going to be pleasant. You're not going to get your PhD. You're not going to have cable. This is prison and you're going to be punished. I'm okay with that. I don't need the eye for the eye personally. Might feel different if it were my daughter, but it's not my daughter, so I don't feel differently. We have the firing squad. We know how to put people under general anesthetic. Like, when Rachel was out with her surgery, like most of us have been out. Put them out. We're good at anesthesia and then use the firing squad done. Done. They're gone. There's no mess up or at least there's a lot less chance of a mess up.

7:07But how the hell do you use stale, lethal drugs? Come on. I've heard of this being an issue before because the drugs do have a shelf life and there's just not that many executions. Right. These days, so, but I mean, there's absolutely no excuse for not like giving a one-sover on the box. Who didn't check the expiration date? I don't pour a glass of milk without checking the expiration date. I don't, I checked macaroni and cheese expiration dates before I made them with the micro. Yeah, how slip shot is it to where it's like, oh man, it's in five minutes. Go get the medication. Like, they don't even look at it. Come on. What do you think that turns into a lawsuit? Oh my gosh. Oh, her attorneys are, I forget what they filed for days, but it's something. So yeah, we'll talk to Brad about this too. Yeah. Brad is going to be with us at 2 p.m. She's probably going to be some level of brain damage.

8:07I would think. I have no idea. Yeah. It's interesting to learn how they do this type of thing. It's called the death chamber where they'll inject them. And there's curtains that they can open and close. And within the court of over just over two hours, so witnesses entered the viewing chamber and then about 40 minutes later, the curtains opened for the first time. I guess to begin the dosage, then 20 minutes after that, they closed the curtains. They opened back up three minutes later. I'm assuming that's when they gave her the second dose. And then 16 minutes later, they closed again. About 50 minutes after that, they were like, you got to get out of the viewing room. You can't watch this anymore. So I guess that's when they decided this is just not going to happen. But how odd that we, in the United States in 2026, we have something called a death chamber and they're drawing and closing the curtains.

9:07Doesn't that just sound so? I can't. Yeah. So so strange. This woman's case is horrific. It's terrible. It's one of the worst stories you will read. Yeah. It is gruesome. Like this is the worst type thing you would see in a horror movie. And she evidently, a court of appeals stayed the execution yesterday because at trial, they didn't present really truly terrible physical and sexual abuse that she suffered as a child, which is probative. You know, a jury can look at that and go, well, what you did was horrific, but what you went through is horrific. We're going to call it even. You're going to go away, but we're not going to put you to death, but they didn't present that. So it's possible now that that could, but but the Supreme Court of the United States yesterday looked at it and said, no, no dice. Yeah. To proceed. And Brad, I'm really curious to see what Brad has to say about the legal side of this.

10:08Like, what does it mean? Does it just mean you wait a couple months and do it again? See, I would think, or do you get off the hook now because it got screwed? I would think closer to that. And I don't know that there's any law on this. Because one of the reporters who was there was saying that why it took so long, what rage was going through the, through the timeline, is that they have zero protocol for giving a second dose. Right. Right. Second dose is assumed to get the job done at that point. Right. But after the second dose, there's no, there's no. There's no protocol. Like, I don't know what to do. Yeah. And then can you imagine like being an ER doctor and they're like, patient presenting has had two doses of Vina Barbertaal. Right. Yeah, what am I supposed to be doing here? Yeah. What is, what would you like me to do? Just correct. What a crazy story. Crazy story. Okay, let's take a break. I start to say it's Friday, but it's not my Friday. It's a safe Friday. We'll treat it like that. Quick break right back, D.J.S.

11:11Time will tell. Well, I tried to make it Sunday, but I got so damn depressed that I said my science on Monday and I got myself on red. Well, back guys, D.J.S on KMOTWX, 121 Happy Thursday to you. Last hot day. Last hot day. Tomorrow, 5.69. No jokes. I don't get it. You wouldn't, um, 16 days of over 90 in September we have. The majority of September. That's crazy, man.

12:11But there's no global warming. Don't worry about it. Hoax. It's cool. It's all going good. Wheels, did you see your favorite tough guy? Pentagon Pete Henseth? Did you see this? Can we just call him Pretty Boy? Oh, man, oh, man, a chevets. This guy. So he had a bunch of Muckety Mucks in and he gave them 144 page book that he wrote about how the military is going to be from from now on. He gave a speech looking like Jiminy Cricket in this little tight fit and suit in front of a giant flag like Patton. And here's what he said, direct quotes amongst a lot of other things. No more fatties, no more trannies, no more weirdos, no more beer-dose and no more whims. Wait, no more beards. Yeah. Tell that to the special forces here. Beardos, brother. I mean, every time I see a picture of the special forces,

13:12dudes, they have big, long-ass beards. You know, Pete would have hated and kicked out of the military. Jesus. He was a beardo. He was a weirdo. He was anti-violence. He said, give the clothes off your back to those who need it. Harder for a camel to go through the Ivan needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. He would have hated Jesus. Man apparently also hates people that achieved more in the military than he did because he's firing generals all the time. 20%, 20% all those people that had much more impact on the military than he ever did. That's what it doesn't have to do. Isn't that what it feels like? Like it's just cope. It's compensation. Because he never achieved those things. So now he's the boss. I'm going to show those muckety mucks. Dude, we're just going through. Ironically, I said dude, but we're just going through the dude man bro phase. This bro phase that I hate.

14:14Because every guy, every guy out there listening knows the bro culture. You don't have to wait until 2026. I had it. No, it's always existed. Yeah. And if you're, if you're saying to yourself right now, I don't think so. You're the bro. But we all know bros and no one like them. No one liked Pete Higgs. Yeah, I mean, I think he's just doing what a television personality does when you put them in a role like this. I think he's just doing what he knows. Good point. What do we expect? Yeah, I mean, he's just he's talking in sound bites. That's the point. And I do wish we had more of like a serious person in that position. But this is what we got right now. Well, and when you when you get rid of anyone that might speak opposition to you, that just gives you more power. Which is what it seems like is the case.

15:16Like what all of these types of people are seeking. They don't care about what makes sense. They don't care about what's best. Just care about what's best for them. Kiss my boots or you're out because I want to be the powerful man. Yeah, and it's common. It's a I mean, it's at least it to me. It seems common in the in the political world. It's kind of like that in the sports world sometimes too. Yeah, where people that want to be or want to be in the authority. They just want to get rid of anyone that might tell them they're wrong. Yeah, I mean, it's it's always nice when someone has like curiosity and wants to hear from everyone. But we were all just in our not not all of us. But a lot of people are just in a silo and they are very convinced on their opinions. And they don't want to hear it from anyone else. And now it's no, it's bleeding from the internet into real professional life. Right. You made it. It's bleeding into our military. You made a really good point in the office yesterday. And I meant to talk about it yesterday, but we didn't.

16:17And you were basically saying what you just said. But it's ironic how totally siloed off we are from each other. But as you were saying, there's also such uniformity and conformity and similarity between people. Can you kind of? Well, I think the algorithm is shaping personalities more than anything else right now. Like if you are online all the time, your personality is being shaped by your algorithm. It's initially feeding things, feeding you things that you're interested in. But then after a certain period of time, you become interested in what it tells you to be interested in. That's the nature of going back to the same well over and over. Okay, I need my fix. I need my entertainment fix. Well, there's not that much new entertainment that's going to be like beneficial to you. A lot of it is going to be slop. And it's going to be propaganda and talking points. And that can come from from any corner of the internet.

17:17It can be leftist talking points. It can be maggot talking points, whatever. Or just, you know, turning into a certain type of person because of the content that you are consuming. If you see the same thing over and over and over again, that becomes embedded into you. It's the same as being influenced by your family or by your church, your community. When our communities move online, then yeah, everyone kind of starts adopting the same mannerisms and the same opinions. And oftentimes I look around and I say, wow, is that really a conviction that you hold at your core? Or is it just something that has kind of, you've just kind of absorbed because you've seen it over and over again? I think we all do that to some extent. Absolutely. I'm not sitting here saying I'm not a part of that. I am dead certain there are things that I just default to because it's something that's been fed to me over and over again. Yeah, same. I feel like I do it less.

18:19I feel like I did it most of my life. And in the last few years, I have become more aware and have begun making my own decisions for better or worse. But I would say up until like maybe five, six years ago, I was just like, oh yeah. But you don't think your current algorithm. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not, I'm not so reburly independent. I'm just saying that I think I'm more so than I have been. I care more about my opinions. That makes sense. You know, more willing to defend them and such. Well, I'm running down the road, trying to loosen my load. I got seven women on my mind. What about D&G Asin came to wax 134?

19:20You can see people eating peas anymore, do you? Peace? When you last saw him, went to a restaurant. They were like, our vegetable the day is a full of peas. Not that long ago. I don't know. Are they all you going? Um, Scottish arms. It was the side with my fish. They love peas. Yeah, there's Scottish. Wasn't there like a big thing about peas on the show recently? Yeah, we were talking about peas. Yeah, Beth was eating peas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Peas and New York. Yeah, yeah. I like peas. I just don't like them all grouped up. It's not a typical, uh, it's not a typical restaurant side, though. You're right about that. Yeah. I like the little thing. Because it's like it's been eaten before. Depends on how some of them are really good. You got to get the fresh ones. Yeah, I like when they got a little, little crunch. Yeah, yeah. Rage, what is touted is better when the original version was actually superior? Yeah, I thought I was just looking on reddit like I do. And someone asked like, reddit is too frenetic for me. You know how like, I think it's very age based.

20:23You know, like the way that cartoons were, um, well, they weren't that great when I was a kid. Pretty racist. But like, Nick and Phoebe's cartoons were nuts. Just like the kind of thing. And when I go to reddit, I just like it. It's off-putting. Anyway, you got to get, you got to get that algorithm. You got to get into the right subreddits, right? Yeah, get your, get your interests in there. Anywho, they were asking what's something that's improved or modernized. But you genuinely think that the old version was better. And I feel like this is like the only thing we talk about on this show is like, man, good old days. Calm down, Hill. But some of the answers are really interesting. I agree with a lot of these like physical buttons and knobs and cars. I do not like the touchscreen in my tracks. Oh, I love the touch screen. But what happens if something goes wrong with the touchscreen? That's going to be expensive to fit. This is true. I'm dealing with this right now. After the last big storm, we had the tire sensor for my back right tire,

21:24which is apparently a thing. Mine is like that, too. It's no longer functioning. Everyone's does that. Yeah. And it just says like, it just says, so every time I get in the car, I have to clear off a notification on my car. It's like, hey, you got a flat tire. No, I don't. You just can't see it anymore. And it's like, I don't even want to think about how much it's going to cost to get that fix. The thing I don't care about. And it's all because there's this too. I have, you know what my tire pressure sensors are? I got two of them. They're in my head. They don't run out of batteries. And they work great. What are they? Minostrels. Get down there. There's a sniff on me. Get down there. Get, get, get. Get down there and take a, get down there and take a big snort. Also from a tactile sense, I love the buttons and the stuff. Me too. And to me, that's easier to change the radio station or what have you while you're actually driving because you can kind of like, braille it, you know? Yeah. With the touchscreen, you have to be looking at it to see what you're doing. Plus, I'm stupid. And so when my screen changes, because I've touched it in the wrong way, you know, it's like, I'm lost.

22:26Yeah. How do I get back to the old screen? I like the old screen. Me. I like the old screen. I don't like new screen. Old screen was good. New screen is danger. Okay, boomers. Here's one. We just gave like a bunch of money. Why do you need so many? Really like, reasonable. That's just a joke. Explidation. No, that reminds me of technology. That reminds me last, whenever KU played Mizzou. So Phoebe's at KU, Nix and Mizzou kid, they have this fun little back and forth, right? And so before the game, Phoebe was getting under Nix'kin and he said something, pretty mild, and she goes, they're there, little kitten. And so I'm just like, okay, that's a good one. And Nick called me and he goes, this is bothering me so much. That she said that. Yeah, he's like, it's really making me mad, but I know that if I show how mad I am, I'm going to be the one who loses this mansion. That was great. Go ahead, Rach.

23:27Someone else said not being able to remove a battery from your phone. Oh, God, yeah. I would have no idea. Why can't we just have like every other thing that has like the back of your remote control? Just have a little thing there. Maybe it's screwed in so it doesn't pop open. And you can just change the battery yourself and step in having to go somewhere and pay to have somebody else do it. The answer is the paying them. Yes, they figured out. Yeah. We can make more money. Yeah, it's not poor design. It's just designed to break more money from you. Wheels and Andrew might relate to this one. Video games being playable with just the disc. I don't know why anyone considers the current state of needing an update before you can play the game as an acceptable state of affairs. Aren't they doing some stuff? I'm not a gamer. Aren't they doing some stuff where like you buy it and then they come along and go, yeah, you don't have anymore? Uh, not necessarily. That's more of a theoretical issue. Right. Right. So like PlayStation is doing away with discs so that you will not be able to buy a disc of a game anymore. You can only download it off of their servers on the internet.

24:31Did discs have an inherent problem that people complained about? Uh, no, they just cost money to produce. Okay. Well, but if you think about the bigger picture too, though, discs like speaking of historically, especially a disc can get damaged and scratched. And once it does that, it doesn't work right anymore. It'll glitch up. It'll freeze. It'll, you know, the game won't play right. When you do the way it's done now, which is you put in the disc and it's already kind of downloaded and you don't have to play off the disc. The disc just kind of gives you the license to go in and play. Well, look at thoroughly modern. Now you don't have those same problems. How to mention the fact if you got a game 20 years ago and there was a flaw in it and you weren't connected to the internet, you didn't have a patch or a thing that would fix any bugs. You just dealt with the bugs. However, and now you get the constant updates. When you buy a disc and the game is on the disc, you own that game. Right. It's yours. Correct. Yeah. The issue with digital stuff and this applies to digital books, digital films, digital video games is that what you are actually purchasing when you purchase that game is a license to play that game.

25:32Right. And what they have the right to do as the actual owners of the game that you hold the license to play is that they can de-list the game from their servers. They can take the game off of the storefronts. And then you aren't unable to play that game any longer. Because again, you did not purchase that game for $70. You purchased a license to play that game. Gotcha. And this has happened not often, but it is absolutely something to be concerned about. Well, and it just goes to show a lot of things in our society are turning into, you just rent everything. You don't own anything anymore. Right. You just rent. And there are good things about renting. There are good things about owning. Just like anything else. But I get why people want to own the thing that they paid for. Let's see. What else here? Cars. They shouldn't need a software update to turn on the heater. I don't have a fancy car like that, but some of them are like that. I will say this. The one thing that they're doing with those types of things is you get like on a new car, you'll get,

26:32hey, you can start your car through your phone app for your two years. And after that, you got to pay us to do it. Why? Mm-hmm. They're talking about doing other things. They're talking about like in the future, not allowing you to connect your phone to your car without paying a subscription fee to do it. Yeah. If you want heat, if you bought the heated seats package and you want to have heated seats, you need to pay a monthly fee. And if you don't, they will take away your car's ability to have heated seats. I don't know that we have the power anymore or the gumption. But that seems like the kind of stuff that in mass we'd all go, yeah, no. Not doing that. Well, they tried. I don't remember. Do you remember Andrew where they tried the phone thing overseas? And it just got so widely rejected, they rolled it back and waited like, all right, we're going to do this at another time. There's been a couple things like that. There's a very famous patent that I think Sony holds where they were testing that there would be commercials on the TV in an order to move past the commercial

27:34and go back to your show. You would have to announce like the name of the advertiser. And there's a really, really funny like graphic for the patent where it shows like a little stickman standing up and going McDonald's at his TV. And that would be how you can go back to the show. That's sick. So they show you in McDonald's commercial. You have to go McDonald's at your TV and then the TV will show you the show. This stuff is turning me into like a nutite. Well, like I'm about to put on my 10 foil hat. And I'm about to like, cancel my A, G and T fiber. I don't maybe I don't need the internet. Yeah, because if the end game is really, we're going to, you got to take a little test. You got to be able to say the advertiser's name in order to watch this episode of Ted Lasso or whatever. Like, okay, I just won't watch that show. Yeah. Why do I need to be reciting anybody's business name in my own home? Why do I need to confirm that I was advertised too? When I'm already paying you. When I'm, yeah. This is insanity.

28:35I like, I'll just find another way to pass the time. I don't need to be. What movie was it? Was it the original running man or I'm picturing Tom Cruise as well? A futuristic movie where they're walking down the street and like every minority report. Minority report. Yeah, where the ads changed. Or basically, yeah. And they talk to you like, hello, Dave Glover. What do you guys think AI is for? You don't think AI is going to start using your dog to be an advertisement hot dog food. You don't think they're going to eventually use your kids in advertisements to telegone your heartstrings and make it more likely that you're going to spend money with the insurance company or whatever. That's what it's all for. And it's creepy. Anyway, back to our segment. And then yeah, I mean, cell phones are coming up over and over again. Another one they mentioned is the fact that cell phones don't have a headphone jack anymore. I get why they got rid of it because it's like, it makes room for the other fancy things or what have you. But I definitely miss having a physical headphone jack.

29:35There is, I know in mind though, there's that there are little adapters that go in where your charging port goes that will connect to your headphone cord. So there's a way around it. But again, what does it do? You have to buy another thing. Right. You can't charge and listen at the same time. That's exactly right. You can't lusher, yeah, unless you're like wirelessly charging and leaving it on the table. Yeah, it's a pain in the ass. And then you got to have the wireless charger, which is again, something else you have to buy. Vic says Rachel is going to put on her prairie dress and move back to the computer. Vicki, the no-one-whole-pulls-ciad. I don't like when Vic talks about your prairie dress. It's 45. This time check is 35. Piermount Bans Medical Center. Oh. We made it. We made it. We made it. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Well, I'm a standing on a corner in Windsor, Arizona. Such a fine sight to see. We're back to DGS 149. Brian M. Says, if I have to say Liberty, Biberty, into my TV, it's over.

30:36David, brother. There's nothing left to live for at that point. You will have to base yourself so much that it's like, I don't feel like the person anymore. Yeah, that would be the test. If this is all just an enormous test. Yes. And they're like, TV can make them say Liberty, Biberty. I think we'll know that we got them then. Yeah, to finish this episode of Netflix is, is it cake? Can't believe how much hatred is in my heart for that little piece of fluff. I finally clocked that last night while watching TV. Because I hear Liberty, Biberty on the radio. Right. I finally saw the commercial. Yeah. I thought the fluff was kind of cute. Oh, boy. Give it some time. It's cute. Andrew says, what's the last completely off the wall? Crazy, stupid dot you had. I'll go first. Okay. Go for it. No, no, no, you. I got you. Gotcha. I was while I had the gas station today. And I have stopped drinking Mountain Dew because I don't care for those zero sugar variants of Mountain Dew.

31:38I don't think they taste very good in general. And I thought to myself, there was the shelves were absolutely full, fully stocked. They had just just received a shipment of some kind I suppose. And I thought to myself, oh my gosh, they, they are doing so poorly without me buying out like they can't they can't sell these. I was surplus. Yeah, they can't get rid of them. So not buying them anymore. We're going to do an Andrew win a way sale. And then I was like, they must miss me so much. And then I was like, oh, no, that's, no, it's probably not. That's probably not accurate. It's pretty funny. It's a good one. They probably have not noticed the, I don't know, five or weak that I'm not drinking anymore. I had a stupid one the other night. So I love to go to the baseball game and set in section 250 ish. So you're behind home plate. And I always take pictures, you know, and I had one of the pictures as my screen saver on my phone.

32:41And that picture had the millennial hotel in it before they tore it down. And Nick and I were sitting there at the game. And I go, wow, look, you can't even see the millennial hotel anymore. They've taken so much of it down. He's like, yeah, it's crazy. It's no longer a part of the, the skyline. So I took a picture. And then when I looked down at my phone, I looked at my screen saver and I for real thought, I have proof of the paranormal. And I even said, Nick, that picture I just took doesn't have the hotel in it. And he goes, I could tell you, but why don't you take another look? And then I'm like, oh, that's my screen saver. But like I was ready to tell everyone around me in section 250. Look, take a picture and the hotel will appear. We just went through a timeline shift. I really thought it. That's funny. Anyone else who got some dumb? I've had like pretty bad brain fog the past couple weeks. And I kept thinking yesterday that it was my second week back in the office.

33:45And in fact, it was my third day back in the office. It's not like a funny one. It's like, whoa, why were you thinking that? Yeah. It's a little scary. Brain fog after the anesthesia. Yeah. I mean, thinking back, yes. I'm like a pretty, I wasn't acting stupid or anything. I wasn't acting like unlike myself. But when I think back on it, it's as if I was drunk or something. It's like, my memories are just very far away. I'm afraid to get it now. There's a big gap between 62 and 96, which is what my mom was. When she came out of anesthesia and was never right again. But I know that that's a thing with older people, not tolerating general anesthesia. And I'm terrified to get it because I'm already afraid of Alzheimer's. I'm afraid if I go under, I will say I've had a couple moments like I was doing something with like our sag-affra stuff online the Friday after the surgery. I was on my laptop like do do do do and then I like ran into a dead end as I often do when dealing with this particular issue.

34:46And then I was thinking of it a couple days later. And I'm like, I can't even remember what it was. Like I can't remember how I left that. I can't remember what the issue was that I needed to stop and I need to follow up on. And I still don't remember. But it's also I think it is pretty normal to right after have lapses in memory like that. Yeah, for sure. Randy, pardon me, Yo Dave, how do you like the rescue on the Fly to Buy airline? Pretty incredible. You guys have seen the story I'm sure. Evidently they had a mole, a pilot from Oman who had worked for Fly to Buy for eight months. Somehow got a axe or a hatchet or something onto the plane within which I guess it's easier to do if you're a pilot. Right. And chopped the pilot. And I think a lot of people were a part of this but one guy in particular who is a plumber from Israel and took the guy down and was able to pull the plane up.

35:48And I saw a pilot talk about it. They dove 17,000 feet. And he said like 30 seconds. Yeah. And he's like, I got to tell you something. He said a trained pilot would have to your train to put your feet on the console and pull back so hard. He's like, it's amazing to be that this guy could do that. That's got to be the adrenaline of the moment, right? Yeah. Have you seen the videos from inside where the planes just that's no fun. I doubt it will deter the next one. But maybe you know, start fighting back. Yeah, the only, I mean, the only question about the deterrence part is if you're an absolute nut case, if you're a nut case willing to fly a plane into the ground, this is a side message. Probably not thinking right. It's a good point. It's a good point. Like, I don't want to. They might have a knife. I just want to buy the right. I mean, seriously, like, does the death penalty does that deter serial killers? Well, no, because they're psychos. Yeah.

36:52Do say. I can't. I'll get there from here. Brad, I intentionally just changed the playlist. I thought you would jammed on chain and you didn't. Oh, yeah, I love that. I love that. I do too. It's awesome. That's one of their all-timers. I think it's the best era. People consider that their worst album. Oh, no. Yeah, there's a lot of great tunes in it. No, yeah, that's a good one. That one, to me, might be in my, in my, in my Mount Rushmore of Van Halen songs. Yeah, same. That one's great. Same. Great video. Yeah. Like the live performance. Man, I think Dave's, Dave, to me, is just a cat skills guy. I kind of a lounge singer by the way. Yeah, right. But he's doing like flying kicks. The back then, he was, Dude, you can, he was a nutcase. I mean, it probably still is. Like, he was a problem. Yeah. He was one of the best front men ever. Yeah. Really defined the role. Yes. Brad Young is with us,

37:53attorney at law. Brad, lots of stuff to get to. Let's start with this botched execution. And what you think of that and what happens now. And is it some sort of double jeopardy? Like, what do you think? Well, there's two sides to it. One is the human side and one's the legal side, right? So on the human side, anyone with any degree of empathy has to feel sorry for this woman. Yes, she's a convicted murderer. Yes, she was sentenced to death. Yes, both the Tennessee Supreme Court and the US Supreme Court denied her stay of execution. But having said that, you don't wish this to happen to anyone. If you have any degree of empathy, it's not revenge. That's not what the point of executions are. So yeah, I have empathy for. Now, let's switch to the legal side. There are several issues here. One is whether this constitutes cruel and unusual punishment to try to execute her again. Number one, number two, is it double jeopardy?

38:54As you mentioned under the Constitution, you can't convict someone of the same crime twice. Does this constitute double jeopardy? Both of those issues were resolved by the US Supreme Court back in 1947 in a very similar situation. There was an attempted execution. It didn't work. The state is in this instance, it was Louisiana. Tied it up for another execution. It went up to Supreme Court. They answered both of those questions. And number one, it's not cruel and unusual punishment. On its face, number two, it's not double jeopardy. But let's look at the first issue briefly. And that is, you can still prove it's cruel and unusual punishment. But you'd have to show that the method, I think it was Pinto Barbital, which was used in this case in Tennessee, whether there was proof that she was suffering, it was painful. If you've got evidence of that from affidavits of the witnesses or an affidavit from herself,

39:56then you might have an argument that using the same type of execution again would be cruel and unusual punishment. Then you'd have to fall back on a different way of execution. For example, Utah now is authorized. The firing squad again, because that's already been clear to being cruel and unusual. So there's several options here, but that's the legal landscape on it. Thoughts, guys, anyone? All makes sense. It's stupid. Like the whole thing is stupid. And I wonder, Brad, I asked this separately, even if this doesn't have any change in what her sentence is, is there a lawsuit possible here? I don't see it as possible. Okay. A lawsuit. I really don't. Again, unless you could prove that the officials knew or should have known that this type of execution style would likely result in what happened, and that she suffered damages. But her damages would be very short, right?

40:59Because the damages would be kind of limited. You're going to be executed again, and not too distant future. So even if it was technically possible, the real issue is how much were her damages. That's a good point. So, Brad, there's the human and the legal, but there's also the practical, what's your guess? Do you think the Tennessee, because I'm sure there's going to be a giant protest, much bigger than last night if they try to do it again? Do you think the agency is going to go? Yeah, no, let's just put her back in jail. No, I think they're going to go through with the execution. Otherwise, at this point, and it wouldn't happen until next year, because you're going to spend the next two months with the most enormous set of investigations, right? You're going to have lawyers investigating it. You're going to have doctors investigating it. This is going to be a big deal, because a lot rides on whether a state can or cannot proceed with executions. So, at the end of the day, after they spend a lot of money on lawyers, which isn't necessarily a bad thing,

41:59according to my wife, jokes aside, yeah, they're going to spend a lot of money at the end of the day. I think they're going to go through with it. But Dave, you raised another issue here, and that is the purpose of executions. Me, listen, I'm conservative. I've always been in favor of executions by the states. But it raises a question, because the purpose of an execution is only twofold. Number one, it provides a just punishment for the act that was committed. And number two, it provides a disincentive for others to commit the crime. But if someone's on death row for 20 years, does it really fulfill either one of those purposes? And I got to tell you, morally, I struggle with that, because if someone's on death row for 20 years, is that really just punishment? No, because they had to wait 20 years to have it. And number two, is there any criminal in this country going to say, well, I better not pull this trigger because I may get the death penalty in 20 or 30 years from now.

43:02And that doesn't create any logical disincentive. So it's really an intellectual conundrum here on that point. Yeah, make sense. You always make sense. Brad, I don't know, did you see the transcript of President Trump's interview with the Time Magazine? You know, I did not see that. It's worth a read. I will. One of the things he said, and I wish I would have screen-shotted it for the exact quote, but basically, he goes off on every one of his Supreme Court appointments. And not only says they are disloyal to me, but says they are for some reason loyal to Joe Biden. Well, okay, let's break that down, because no Supreme Court justice is ever, ever supposed to be loyal to a president. Generally speaking, I've been a big fan of John Roberts. A couple of decisions I think he got wrong from my perspective, not that he needs my approval, right?

44:03But overall, I think he's faithful to the Constitution. And when he goes against Trump, he goes against Trump, right? That's not the point of a Supreme Court justice to side with any particular president. One of the most famous examples of that was David Souter. I think David Souter was appointed by, I think it was the first president Bush, or Reagan at the very end. I lost track of the time. But one of those two, and when he got on the Supreme Court, he lurched completely to the left. And they were upset about it. But those presidents then were upset because they didn't like his judicial temperament, not that he was not faithful to the president that appointed him. So that's a big distinction that I don't know that President Trump understands, or if he does understand it, he simplifies it to playing to his masses. But that's just not the purpose of a Supreme Court justice. Brad, yesterday we had a good discussion about the relative wisdom of lifetime appointments

45:06for Supreme Court justices as opposed to 75, 80 years old. What do you think about that? Uh, two things. And of course, anything would have to be changed by a constitutional amendment, which is highly unlikely. But just talking about it theoretically, I think you could put an age limit on it. I don't see any problem with that. What I do have a problem with is justices having some sort of term where they'd have to get reappointed or reelected. I think that would be wrong because I always hate it when any judges run for re-election. Me too. I just don't like it because what are you going to run on? They're all going to say the same thing, right? I'm in favor of upholding the law. I mean, what judge is going to say, I'm in favor of ignoring the law. I mean, no judge is going to say that. So I don't like the idea of judges running for election anyway. But at the Supreme Court level, I think you could put an age limit on it. But you got to look at what the consequences of that would be. If you did put an age limit on it,

46:07then because we're already seeing younger nominees going to the Supreme Court, I mean, look at Katanji Brown-Jackson. She's pretty young for a Supreme Court justice. And if you put an age limit on it, you'd start seeing 35 and 40-year-old nominees to the Supreme Court because the president wants to have a longer impact on the law and on the country. And so I think the unintended consequence would be younger and perhaps not as experienced nominees to the Supreme Court. And Brad, you know, I actually just realized this, you would be able to game out exactly when the next Supreme Court justice would be needing to be appointed. Yes. Because really, oh, this person is turning 70 in two years. Exactly. So let's get going. And yeah, that could potentially be problematic as well. That's something that I had never thought of before. But yeah, you could have a road map there. You would have a road map. And look at what happened with Justice Ginsburg. All right. Everyone wanted her to step down during the Obama administration.

47:11It didn't do it. And so as a consequence, there was another Supreme Court justice appointed of completely different persuasion because she said, no, no, no, I'm going to live longer. I'm not going to die. And yet she did. And it unfortunately for the left resulted in a shift to the court. Brad, two Supreme Court cases to watch this month. Tell us about them. Yeah, very briefly here. One is, I think, a big deal. And that is big oil is being sued in the Supreme, or in Colorado over climate change. And there's a big issue. Who gets to decide? Can Colorado sue an oil company based upon climate change or ledge climate change damage to the entire country? I mean, that seems like how can Colorado do that? Another standing case. Yeah. And it's a standing case. It's also a jurisdictional case. Can you even bring this under state law or does it have to come under federal law?

48:13And so this is actually going to be argued next week on this Monday, in fact, at the Supreme Court. And it could have big, big consequences if the court allows this lawsuit to move forward. Okay. And the second one isn't nearly as sexy, but it is interesting because this is going up to the Supreme Court over the definition of one word. It's all vain. I'll be because back in the 70s, remember Justice Bork or Judge Bork, who was a point in the Supreme Court, he got Borked as now a verb. He was Borked in part because of the rentals that he got from the library. And the library said, yeah, look at all these questionable movies this dude is getting from the library for free. And so a law was passed that you can't give a person's video history. But now there was a guy, Michael Salazar, he signed up for, I think it was called 247 Sports Newsletter. And it included links for videos. And for some run known reason, Facebook gave that

49:21information out to a third party. And he's suing saying, under this video, you know, Blackbuster video law from the 80s, you unlawfully gave my viewing history to somebody else. And the question is whether the word services includes links to videos. And so it's not a big case. It's not going to have a big impact. But it's just funny how literally the definition of one word can take a case all the way to the Supreme Court. Brad, remind me, what was the big bombshell in the Bork case? Like, why was he turned away? I think he was renting R rated movies. And everyone had a big deal with that. Oh my gosh. I was in high school at the time when that happened or early college. And, you know, frankly, going to adult beverage establishments and looking at girls was probably more important to me at the time. But that was the issue because I do remember during his hearings that he was questioned about all of these videos he got from

50:22the library because the movies, remember back in the 80s, armated movies went pretty far. And I think that was one of the issues that folks had with Bork. What did you think of the clearance Thomas stuff back then, the hair on the coat can and all that? Yeah. Well, in a perfect world, I mean, you know how I'm going to answer this. I don't care what a person does. I don't care about what they say. I care about how do they look at the Constitution, how they interpret statutes. But to the public, it's a much different issue. And, you know, the issue with Kavanaugh where he had to say, I like beer. You know, I just thought, really, we're asking Supreme Court justices about how much beer they drink. And that was kind of my old thought about the Thomas issue because it was collateral. But, you know what, in a world where public, the court of public opinion matters, then those things do matter at the end of the day, even if we think they're kind of silly. All right, brother, you're the best. Thank you so much.

51:24As always, thanks guys. Welcome back guys. DGS 224. Really looking forward to the next segment. We have Andy McCormick with us, executive director of Gateway Down Syndrome Association, rock 21 is a dynamic music program, design for teens and adults with Down Syndrome to explore their passion for music. And we have Addy who is a musician and she's going to play for us and cool. Tell us all about it. That's awesome. Nothing better than live music in the studio. That's right. It's one of the perks of this job. She's a sweetheart. She's adorable. I was just saying to Kevin, there's a story that the story doesn't matter, but there's a guy on a plane doing something gross with a glass, like a drinking glass, rubbing it on his head, and people are like, someone else is going to have to drink out of that. And then I was reminded that Tony Colombo, you were on the show back then. You remembered this. Remember Tony never used forks or

52:29silverware at restaurants. Yeah, the freak because 10,000 people put that forking him out. I'm going to admit that when he said that, it was the first time I ever thought, man, that's a lot of mouths at things. I mean, I'll say I'm not crazy about it either. Especially if you go to like a like a fast casual place and they don't have the plastic forks, they have the silverware and they don't necessarily maybe do as good as they show it. And he got both been dishwashers. So you got to take him out of the thing and inspect. Kevin counterpoint. No, it's just simple. We know it heat and soap do. So it's okay. And my point wrong, like they don't throw away all the surgical tools when they operate on somebody. They clean them so they can use them again. So you pull a fork out of like, let's say a holder at a restaurant by the soda machines or whatever. You pull out a metal fork. The fork has food still on it. I'm not going to use that for you're using it.

53:33No, I'm not going to use that fork. Well, that's our point. Okay, but he's no, the point was nobody, he doesn't use any of them ever for any reason. Oh, well, yeah, because he's a weirdo. That's not exactly what we're talking about. Yeah, if I see something on there, I'll get a different one, but that's all right. That means that one wasn't cleaned properly. And there's nothing worse than speaking of buffets from yesterday. You get to the buffet and you grab your plate and you're like, not this plate. Right. Well, that's the other thing. Every one of those places is the same thing with plates. Are you not eating off the plates at restaurants? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Well, this is your side of my point. Like almost everything has been touched by thousands of people. Right. And even when there's something on the plate, it's probably just like the dishwasher, the machine dishwasher just didn't fully blast it all off. It's still sanitized. That's correct. The germs are dead. It does hit me though. Not enough to keep me from it, but it hits me every now and then when I'm in a restaurant, like,

54:34there's a lot of trust going on right here. Well, that's true. Yes, this is well anytime anyone else is preparing your food. You're trusting them. Don't think you heard about door dash. Pass them through. Yeah. What are they doing? I've had I've had puking babies deliver mine. Like, Dad, I wouldn't eat that. I'm like, will you throw up in the bag? I think we're safe here. Close enough. I've got a feeling. I've feeling deep inside. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's right. I've got feeling. I can't. I don't know. Oh, no. Welcome back, guys. DGS on KMO at happy Thursday. Everybody. 234. Special guests in today.

55:42We have Andy McCormick who is with Gateway Down syndrome association, rock 21. We have Addy who is a musician. Welcome. Welcome to DGS. Thanks for having us. It's great having you. Yeah. Addy, welcome. Hi, sweetheart. So tell us all about it. Tell us about everything you guys are doing. Awesome. Well, we're from the Gateway Down syndrome association. And the organization itself serves and supports and celebrates individuals with Down syndrome from prenatal diagnosis through death and beyond. But the program we're here really talking about is rock 21, which is a social program for adults with Down syndrome. They get together. They practice for six weeks in a rock band. And then we perform at a local venue out in the community. Very cool. And you guys are playing Frankie Martins. Yes, Frankie Martins on October 11th. The show is all day from 11 to 5. We have over 80 rockers 13 bands. It's our biggest show we've ever had. You know, it's funny. My band was supposed to play there on October 11th. They said, Dave, we have a better band.

56:47So you guys kicked me right out of there. Maybe I can open for them sometime. That would be me. Yeah. That would be cool. So Addy, tell us about yourself. Tell us anything you want to tell us. Well, I do, I do like 21. And I get to see friends and I'll pay guitar and drums. Awesome. The drummer plays guitar and drums. That's right. We're like the same person. Yeah. Which do you prefer drums or guitar? I would say guitar and drums. Yeah. Drums are more primal, aren't they? Yeah. You can really beat them. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that aggression out, right? Yeah. She's a really good singer too. Really? What do you like to sing? Oh, I bet I know. I like country songs. Okay. Very nice. Yeah. And you're as wifty. Yeah. All right. Yeah. And I was telling Addy how much Kevin Wheeler talks about Taylor. And as I try to get me a drum man over well at all. So hey, I said I wanted to be Taylor and Travis' best friend. Yeah, that's true. You didn't say that because they have a dog that's like a dog. I used to know. Yeah, they did. Um, so, so how many people are involved in rock 21. So this session, we have about 80 rockers. Uh-huh. So we put them into small bands. So we have bands of about seven participants in each band. And so each band practices independently. Yeah. There's about 80 total. So this session is the first time we've also opened it up to teenagers. So we have our very first

58:12team band. Nice. They're called unfinished homework. And that's the name of their band. So each band gets to pick their name. And then each person gets their spotlight songs. Each person picks their song that they want to be the lead singer on. Yeah. And so we'll have about 80 songs. All at Frankie Martins. It's just a whole day of happiness and a amazing joy that you get to see all these people. Addy, what song did you pick to play at Frankie Martins? Um, I picked look to make Brian. Uh-huh. I'm saying happy girl. Very nice. Very nice. Yeah. It fits her personality perfectly. Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel like singing a little bit of it or playing a little guitar for us? Yeah. Okay. Take it away. Yeah. Yeah. You're gonna sing for him? Yeah. Whatever you're comfortable with, you play a little guitar, do a little bangin.

59:12And you strum the guitar. I'm happy. Yeah. Perfect. Very nice. I like it. Very nice. I'm not much of a country fan, but you've turned me. Yeah. That's very cool. Made a new fan. Yeah. Do you have a best friend in your band? Yeah. Um, I like Maggie and Abby. Very nice. Very nice. Yeah. So what does music mean to you, Addy? How much, how important is it that you've been able to do this? Because I like to sing and I can get good. Very nice. Yeah. I don't know if you can get much better. That's pretty good. Yeah. That's pretty good. Yeah. He's pretty awesome. Do you have a drum set? No. Do you want one? Yeah. I have a drum set. I'll give it to you. Okay. Sure. I'm on with love it for you. Yeah. We have to. We have to. Okay. That's the mission first. I think mom would love if you had a drum set of your house. But if you if you get the okay, I'll I'll deliver it to you. Yeah. Cool. I got a black one. I got a silver one. You can pick. Okay.

1:00:22Very cool. It's only two thousand bucks. It's not. So, so Andy tell us about from the outside what this means to the people in it. Absolutely. So I think rock 21 is one of the most important things we do because people with Down syndrome, you know, have some challenges. But this gives them the opportunity to put all those aside and just become rock stars. You know, I think all of us inherently want to be on stage and hear the crowd go wild. And not many of us get that moment, but it rocks 21 every person that gets to the microphone or strums a guitar or bangs on the drum gets that moment, that Taylor Swift moment where they get to be a celebrity a star. And literally the crowd goes wild. Yeah. And there's something about building self esteem and having that moment to just be someone amazing. Yeah. Which they're amazing no matter what they're doing. Yeah. But having rock 21 is the vessel that they get to be on the stage and celebrate all the amazing things about themselves.

1:01:26Adi nervous to play live in front of people. No. Hey, that's my girl. She's so brave. It's my girl. Yeah. Adi's one of our best singers. She knows every word to every song and and sings perfectly every time. It's really awesome. Adi, what else what else do you like to do besides the music? Um, dance and you client dance. Yeah. So you're at all around performer. Yeah. I love it. I love it. Um, so this is coming up Sunday, October 11th, which is a not mistaken is Sunday after next 11 a.m. to 5 p.m. Anything else people need to know or if people out there are touched by this, how can they get involved? So we would love to have anyone come out to the show, the bigger the crowd, the better, um, the atmosphere is and the more fun and better we can celebrate our rockers. Um, but also we're always looking for instrument donations. We're looking for sponsors that want to help financially support. You know, we have a new t-shirt, a new band poster every concert. So there's a lot of expense that comes with running a rock, uh, rock 21. Um, so always looking for that was financial supports, but also just having people there seats.

1:02:35A but some seats that have people there to really celebrate and enjoy the day. Very nice. Well, I will donate my drum set. Anyone out there who wants to match it with a guitar or something like that through the DGS will hook you up with that. Uh, Adi, anyone who wants to say hi to out there and of your pals? Yeah. Okay. Um, say hi mom. Yeah. Yeah. You especially have to say hi to mom. Yeah. Bring in a drum set. Hi mom. Hi dad. Hi mom. Hi dad. Thank you, Adi. Good luck. Break a leg. Thank you so much for having me. on each another for two and a half hours, and on each other. Another one! School.

1:03:41Powerful it is beyond most anything. What are why that is Primal man, but even more even more than words though because it's it certainly carries way more weight than words I think so maybe it's just the waves the sound waves It's it's got a sooth your immune like your nervous system in ways that words can't yeah, yeah Like a different frequency is the vibration We'll set the waves yeah, I love that she's not nervous at all to play Fantastic Rachel is a good point for throwback it sure is let me It's right here. Sorry. I'm just trying to make a post We'll do that on the break Throwback Thursday back the day October 1st 136 years ago in 1890. Yosemite was declared a national park by Congress Okay

1:04:45I was just thinking that's Teddy right didn't Teddy begin the national park service I Don't know great question. I think he did I think he was the first 118 years ago in 1908 Henry Ford introduced the model T You guys don't even want to know what the sticker price was it was a Dollar a little more than that 500 825 I pay more in rent was that the one that was a car that the horse was faster than Hope so yeah, I would think so yeah 94 years ago in 1932 with account of two balls and two strikes big brooth called his shot and pointed to the Centerfield bleachers at Rigley on the next pitch He hit a home run over those very bleachers, but the Yankees ahead of the Cubs in game three of the world series That would have been a viral moment had it happen today. I'm assuming yeah, the what's hard is that's actually debated as to whether he did or not

1:05:46It would be great if it was not right right I might or if it was intentional or if it was just kind of like he was just going through a routine and that just happened to look like that That's the thing though as if it was on TV we would all see but you know at that time it's all hearsay But it's been a story long enough. I got to believe it's somewhat true and then 65 years ago in 1961 Roger Maris broke Bay Booth's home run record by hitting his 61st home run of the season the babe hit 60 homers in 1927 Underrated movie wheels 61. Yeah One of my favorites me too. It's a great great one and I was afraid that you're gonna say That you didn't like it. No, I have to fight. No, that's that's one of the best baseball movies ever It's in part because the actors were really good and but it's also a really fascinating story about the way that Played out in the summer of 61 and it was told it's Billy Crystal So I mean he lived through that. It was a big moment to him and he did a great job with Maris's hair was falling out People were throwing crap at him. Barry Pepper was really good in that as Roger Maris. Yeah, I love how they're all just openly drinking beer and

1:06:51It was Thomas Jane as Mickey Manell. Yeah, that mean they they did those two guys did a great job and I thought it was real enough I did too right. I mean they painted they showed you a little bit of the problems with Mickey Yeah, right where a lot of times you get these historical movies and it's like oh, we're only gonna show you the nice stuff. Yeah 64 years ago in 1962 Johnny Carson made his first appearance as the host of the tonight show Hmm He was introduced by grow chill marks and his first guests were Mel Brooks Tony Bennett Rudy Valley and Joan Crawford very good. That's it. Yeah, no budget bombs nothing to look at there Just the biggest stars in the world at the time Also 64 years ago the Beach Boys released their debut album Serfen Safari Man, it must have been terrible to be like a Beach Boys hater because it's like a Serfen Safari who cares You can kind of write that off and then they release pet sounds and yeah, oh, I guess they are for sure I'm one of those people like you know all

1:07:51The surf music is lost on me. I get it. I get it. I just don't care for it But you have to acknowledge what a genius Brian Wilson was. Yes. Yeah, I like it all I like And I think a big part of that was growing up like listening to K L.O. You they played a lot of Of Beach Boys and then we also would go to Raging Rivers all the time living and grafted and they would play all of the Yes, sir frock. Yeah All the time 57 years ago in 1969 the Beatles released Abby Road in the United States That's their classic album that features come together here comes the some son and something Amazing if you ever seen the video of them right you probably saw it when you watch the the film where George is working out Something something in the way she moves Attracts me like and he didn't have it Mm-hmm, and he's talking to other Beatles and he's like attracts me like your cauliflower and John goes just keep singing words just keeps it just keep saying things until it comes out and then finally comes out and then the most amazing thing is when

1:08:55Paul basically writes get back in about four or five minutes. He just does it crazy Those those guys are nuts 55 years ago 1961 Walt Disney World opened in Orlando, Florida. What year age? 1971 I'm sorry I might have said it wrong same year I was born. Yeah, I was there in 74 Yeah, I don't remember when we first went would have been it would have been late 70s 52 years ago in 1974 leather face was first seen with the Texas release of Texas Chainsaw massacre man. Have you seen that one? I have not I have not either yeah, it looks too To bridge too far honestly like now it's kind of Cheesy yeah, I think at the time because it was such a Wild out there thing that it was probably I'm not saying it's not scary interesting like now It's it just feels cheesier because it's so old and weird compared to the more the newer ones. Yeah 51 years ago 1975 Muhammad Ali beat Joe Fraser in the Philippines for their third and final fight the thriller in Manila is widely considered to be one of the greatest fights of all time

1:10:03I miss boxing. I gotta tell you something you know, I agree with you The and it's it's hard because it's not anybody's fault really just that Combat sports have changed a lot in the last 25 years where you know so many of the people that might have been great boxers are now in mixed martial arts And there's more disciplines and things that are going on So I think you know if you're into combat sports just in general It's probably better now because you're getting a more true test of like who are the real toughest people up there But I do miss it because you miss you don't have the personalities Especially at the heavyweight level right because that was what everybody was drawn to was the heavyweight champ of the world Was the baddest man in the world at least perceptually? You know when it was Muhammad Ali and Jack Johnson and it was Joe Lewis when it was when it was Larry Holmes in his day Mike Tyson And you just don't really have that because the guys that are heavyweights now are so big That they're not really quick. It's a slow moving process and it's kind of a jab fest Wasn't it Larry Holmes that Tyson was fighting when Holmes was about 80 and

1:11:05Muhammad Ali whispered in his ear avenge me And he did he just beat the holy hell out of that old man 42 years ago in 1984 you two released the unforgettable fire featuring Pride in the name of love. I love that song and we were talking about you two I guess last week and we were all like well. I'm not a big you two person. I'm not even I'm not because I don't have like one of their albums That I've listened to a million times, but they have so many great songs. Yeah, that's one of them. Dave. Do you agree? With the hot take on you too that I don't remember exactly when it changed But there's a line in the sand where they went from being awesome to being very Meh and I might be it was around rattling home around that time Maybe it was not long after that, but it seems like a lot of stuff since like the mid to late 90s is just gone Well, I don't know enough about their music to even have an opinion on that Unlike like weezer or food or something right then I'm into but I will say that I

1:12:11You can tell from listening to the show that one of my character flaws What am I many is that I get annoyed by people because of their success And I was very annoyed by you two and especially by Bano and his sunglasses and the fly and all that stuff Right, but then I kind of grew up a little more and I'm like well One of the biggest bands in the history of the world. What do you think they're gonna be like just average Joe? So I got past that Let's skip ahead a little bit 20 years ago in 2006 Dexter premiered on showtime It ran for eight seasons and spawned to the prequel series Dexter original sin and two sequels Dexter new blood and Dexter resurrection. I loved it. I I watched maybe like the first three or four seasons and I did enjoy it while I was doing that I I'm not that interested in the the prequel and the sequels. I got enough Dexter in my life

1:13:24Oh Back guys DG has on KMO acts few minutes past three p.m. Happy Thursday Janelle's here with us although tomorrow might have been a better day because you're gonna see Digger tonight, right? No, I'm not gonna be able to see it tonight. I thought it opened tonight. It does open tonight. I can't get to You can't get there Yeah, no, I'm here so I know the first showing for movies for the weekend are usually at 2 p.m. So I just miss it And I getting me out of the house after Fair enough to what level are you excited about it even if it's terrible? I Am excited about it just for the fact that I like when established actors take big swings

1:14:30I think he absolutely could just retire and be the Ambassador of movies and Hollywood and every time he does something he ends up everywhere on social media He's just a great ambassador for that art medium and He like said he if you go back I mean like Tom Chris his trailer for this movie Early on in the summer was pretty much a compilation of all of his greatest movies And you're like you sit there and you're like oh gosh, that's right. He did that one. He did this one So and he has a certain type of character. He's kind of always lean towards But I mean he's done things like vanilla sky and magnolia things would have been a little bit you know like What's the one with collateral with Jamie Foxx? He's done different things But he's still Tom Cruise the movie star, right? He always is going to be so when he does something like this where he's like Yeah, I got to kind of give up my action roles Which he's not because he's gonna do days of Thunder 2 and he's gonna do top gun 3

1:15:32But just something that he could absolutely just keep the same type of character I like when actors are like no, I'm gonna try something A little little weird little funky and Yeah, I mean, it's not getting great. Your visors very split I think it's coming out around 58 ish percent right now as far as the criticisms go But I'm on board for it. I mean I could come back and tell you that it's terrible And I I would believe you know it wouldn't offend me that it's terrible But I would just appreciate the fact that he took that chance Yeah, I agree. Yeah, so you know what my favorite Movies of his all the right moves really you know this one. Mm-hmm. They're at Ampipe high school Mm-hmm. You know this one can have where they're playing football. Yep. That's a good movie Craig teen Elson He's got a great filmography. You just can't go back and be like I mean, yeah Of course everybody has where really we were talking about Robert Pattinson and Twilight because I did see prime time and

1:16:34Everybody's got some stinkers in the back But I can even like remember as Tom Cruise was like was it legend? It was it legend? Yes, yes I mean Tim Curry is the devil. Yeah, what's the best devil's ever right? Yeah, I mean Tim Curry was great at playing evil, but yeah, I mean you just look at then you're like what a great film up what a just Outside of all the personal stuff Talking about all the Scientology and all the weirdness that goes with that just if you could just take Tom Cruise the movie star On an island you can't ask for a better like representative of that medium is Primetime another Pattinson victory. Yeah, he's he's otherworldly at this point. It's eerie how Much he sounds like Chris Hansen during this movie and there's a scene where He's in the sound booth recording Promos for the upcoming show and he's he keeps doing it like over and over and over and over again to get it right and

1:17:34Hit the inflections of and you know like check this guy, you know Super He's I don't know how to he's alien. I don't know what he's but I will say this that movie like we were discussing out there is The acting and the performances are way better than the story if you're really wanting the story watch the documentary Predators that was on either Netflix or HBO It'll give you a great insight to kind of how Iki that entertainment was I mean when you know as growing up that was that was you know Hi hi cotton on Wednesday nights. I watched TV. Yeah, everybody was tuning in watch and then when you kind of get older and you step back from it You're like oh, that's what we were doing for entertainment. That's a little is Chris Hansen well Within his rights to be pissed I can I Will say I will say yes and no

1:18:35No, he doesn't have the right to be pissed because he lived it that he knows The documentary Predator shows that he knows he knows that there were there were lines that they shouldn't have crossed in that I mean yes in the fact is if they did take liberties with his life and he's still young enough to say hey that wasn't how I Really was then yeah, he can't he can be but I think as far as the entertainment and the production of that show I I don't think he really has a right to because you did it you did it you I think everybody in that entertainment kind of industry as far as new shows They were all beat they were all pushing to be number one. He was doing must see to you know He was going up against I forgot to which shows he was going up against on Wednesday nights But it was you want ratings you're wanting to be number one you're wanting to stay at tap so with that probably comes a lot of You know checking your morals at the door in order to keep that kind of

1:19:36elevation so I can understand why he would be upset about but it doesn't seem like he's really shirking from the Notaryity of it either because he keeps posting what I'm gonna go check out this video here's where I'll let you know my rating When I come out so he's not if he's really upset about it Maybe he would just shut up and go away, but they can't do that so I'm sure he saw this But I saw an interview with Robert Pattinson recently and he said my only issue with the Odyssey is that I can hear Chris Hanson in my voice Oh really yeah, okay, he's doing the American voice yeah, he's like probably no one else would know did I would never have got it But I can hear it now I'll probably hear it yeah, I was gonna say it would be interesting to watch prime time and then he immediately turn on the Odyssey and see if you can because it's when I say it's eerie it's so Creepy how well he sounds like you're just like that's I know that's Robert Pattinson's face but that is Chris Hanson's voice coming out of him He's like I said he's just next level when yeah, I'm so that stuff. Uh, did you see into Vogue Street? I did what do you think?

1:20:40Yeah, it was okay. I liked that dinosaurs were finally made scary again because Just Jurassic Park movies and Jurassic World's they really kind of nerfed all those dinosaurs and like no dinosaur could ever catch a human Except for the exact people you wanted it Guys, yeah, but in this movie it was very indiscriminate, you know violence, which would do exactly what it would be So yeah, I thought that part of it was good. I thought some of the family story was kind of just I didn't need it Yeah, yeah It was I don't like anytime when Life or death situations are happening and people have a sit-down talk where you're like we can discuss this later There is a dinosaur outside. We will yeah if we live through this we will talk about this I hate every disaster movie when it comes to that like the world's ending But we have to have this little fight between us like come on right? Yeah, the part that bugged me and it's no spoiler You know it's dinosaurs But when the kids go looking for the dog. I'm like there are

1:21:41Taranosaurus Rexes out there and they're like well, we're just leave the house and yeah, you know like mom it out We find right in it's you're like no Yeah, you're not sneaking out to go the cone barn Yeah, no, I don't like I don't like when things were you they They're they always do a very good job of establishing how life and death and critical all of these situations are And then it just kind of comes to a halt with a certain decision somebody makes and you're just like no That stuff is still going on still going on in the background. So anytime you want to and then it turned into Back to the future at the end. Yeah, when was where wolf come out? Uh, December. I think comes out around this. I think he comes out Christmas. I think he's doing his To be a good one. I do too. I mean I've not seen anything that he's done that I didn't like Right? I'm listening to you. Did you see the lighthouse? I did. Yeah, it was weird. It was it was very strange It was very strange and not for out to and Um, did you do the witch? I mean we love to read. Yeah, I mean that was good

1:22:43Not for out to was really good. I think he did the Northman. Yep. Which is also not not as good as the other two, but also good I hope he stays with kind of the monster genre right now. I'm going happy does like all the classics, but yeah I think he's what else should he do? What would be next? I think the next one he's doing is actually no he's doing like a um What's the the Christmas Carol? Oh, yeah, but he might make it dark. I hope so And weird. Yeah, yeah, I do have an Ebenezer movie come the trailer came out with the Johnny Depp one him trying to Kick his way back into how many of these do we need? Yeah, you don't know like the Christmas Carol Do we need we've gotten oh, it's basically have like one for every five years. We didn't need any past grudged Yeah Yeah, yeah, I think that might have been before was that before? Scrooge? Yeah, I think similar time frame. You're right So yeah, no, there's he's trying to eat his way back into Hollywood with his portrayal of Ebenezer or so

1:23:59G S on KMO X so last night we had a little listener vent out at Rosa leaders Out in wheelers neck of the woods and I met a bunch of new people and one of them was a gentleman named Dennis Birkholder Who not only does great work with Shriners, but he's having a golf tournament coming up on Monday to commemorate his daughter who passed away a few years ago and Dennis is also a cameo ex alum How about that hello Dennis? Hey, how are you? Well actually an intern so I wouldn't call it a long I was the guy taking the trash out and and making sure Bob cost isn't everybody was okay So no you what you're part of the family do that counts Yes, and great stories about Mr. Buck and how kind Mr. Buck was to him so very very cool This first of all tells about Shriners and then we'll talk about Bella Um, well I am the art chairman for the Moulin Shriners which is celebrating 150 years here in St. Louis

1:25:01I'm trying hospital as well over a hundred years and over to me and kids have come through the doors of our hospitals Here in St. Louis and across the country and everybody knows you know, we are the specially Hospital for orthopedic burn and spinal and Cloth palette and we also do sports injuries So if your kid gets in a soccer game and hurts themselves Please don't hesitate to call us, but we have no billing department. So We do it all at the hard work of events like this That we're doing on Monday Boy between Shriners and Cardinal Glenin and St. Louis children St. Louis really is one of if not the preeminent places for children's hospitals in the country Oh absolutely and for me as a Shriner, I'm always amazed what we do in our hospitals I mean there are literally research that they're doing of growing bones and kids hands and When you hear about a third world country with major burns they're flying these kids into our hospital in Texas

1:26:07So I mean we're become really the premier hospital with so many different events, but yeah right St. Louis is blessed with three great hospitals So Dennis tell us about your daughter. Tell us about the golf tournament and anything else you want to tell the audience Well before I get too emotional Pardon me You're in good company brother. I've cried twice today. You're fine My daughter was my only child She passed away with a seizure on 94 and She kind of grew up with Shriners She and I actually clowned together. We did a lot of parades in St. Louis a lot of birthday parties But it was very evident to me. I was the straight man for her. She had so much talent in fact I introduced her some friends of mine with circus a lay and they wanted to Bring her on as one of their clowns and went at just the age 11 and I'm like guys. I can't do that She's just 11. She was amazing and and then that magical age of 11

1:27:11She had already raised 14,000 dollars for Shriners Hospital So she really had a heart for caring and giving um, you know as a as a dad you you sometimes like what did I You know, I can't believe I did something this great in this world to have such a great child that humbles me But you know, I would ask her I'm like hey, you want to go and watch fireworks and she's like no I'm going to go down to a veterans home and sit with the veterans because I know how traumatic The fireworks are she'd be going to a soup kitchen So she had a heart for giving and was always there so three years ago when we lost her It seemed pretty evident that what we wanted to do is put on a golf tournament I'm really blessed that for almost 40 years. I've known John Tudor. I used to shoot photographs on On Bush Day and in the old days and Hannah actually scooped it. I have together and he kind of watched my daughter grow up So he's actually been instrumental getting some of these alumni out for this tournament and raising awareness for Shriners

1:28:16But you know just having a good fun time and you know on Monday We even have Louis and Fred Burgess to kind of add to the antics of the day, but it will be a fun and great day and Where's it taking place? It is at sugar Creek golf course, which is in high Ridge, Missouri Mm-hmm So it's kind of right off of Gravoy Road and you I know you have Ricky is coming out there and yeah Some other blues and some other cardinals Yeah, we got Mike's look coming he's trying to get some more alumni coming up. We got Brad Thompson Lonnie McLean Mike Tyson not the boxer, but the second basement from the carnal I prefer the second And if you're Yankee fan right now and excited that they possibly you know we're in the playoffs Brian Bowinger who is the St. Louis negative And he pitched in the World Series for the Yankees. He's gonna be there So don't be some more surprises. I'm sure in that warning as things kick off

1:29:19Very cool. Dennis. How do people get involved is there a website to go to? You can the easiest way is I'll send you to Bella's ride Which is B-E-L-L-A ride Dot org You can register there. You can also click on seeing the auction items. So we have I thought it'd be good to put them on yesterday One of my friends donated a vintage Game used St. Louis football cardinal helmets signed by some of the veterans about 10 years ago So I mean the autographs And celebrity items we have are pretty vast and in Why I mean we've got some of the former carnal's like Jim Hart But we also have a signed photo from Chevy Chase. So when you think about golf you got to think of Chevy Chase And we got Tim Allen and Chris Pratt So there's a lot of good friends that have reached out and donated some items for our auction

1:30:19So it's gonna be a fun time. Okay, buddy. Thank you for sharing and good luck on Monday Thanks and thanks Thanks for Let me mention my daughter's name because to me I don't think any of our Family members pass away as long as we keep mentioning their name of course What about guys DGS and Kmo X 335 wedge and Nelson again with this day Murray joined us at Dave How there having one of those days where I've done a lot of stuff But as I sit back I think what did I do today? Not sure I got anything really done that's me did a lot. It's me every night at 530 Like what did I do today you get a Dave like you spend your whole life in the entertainment business like you get And you're like well, that's a whole bunch of fluff right there. I'm like that. Yep

1:31:21There goes my life right there Right yeah So what are the chances this is our last day in the upper 80s? Zero Okay, I just don't too much time left Yeah, you know, we've got we've got all of October to get through now granted by usually the end of October We've really turned the co-owner, but that gives us three more weeks. Yeah, so uh yeah I will be amazed if we don't get into the upper 80s. Stephen 90 degrees one more time. Okay after today We're 89 right now. Okay. Uh, did we set a record yesterday? I don't know okay. I think I've one of the local TV guys that we hit 92 and I think we've maybe tied the record so he's probably looking at it That's possible. Yeah, he's right looking at his home Yeah, you know, you know nothing Ha ha ha ha My feeling is we didn't break the record that who cares yeah, how about the uh the timing of the rain coming in Dave

1:32:26Yeah, it's the it has really been raining quite hard over northern Missouri down through central sections of Missouri right now It's trying to edge our way, but it's having to it's having to promise moving northeast and the push to the east is very very slow But we do have a cool front on the way. We have a pretty good pocket of moisture coming up from the southwest Which was associated with Hurricane polo. I think probably the best we're starting to see some little things pop Around the St. Louis area so anytime now we could see some shower activity The the steadier rain I think is tonight overnight tonight and then it's gone by probably nine or ten o'clock in the morning Don't see anything severe, but there will be some rumbles of thunder flashes of lightning the heaviest rain will continue to be to our north and north west and as result It's been raining there all day. I think we're gonna see a little bump up on the Mississippi and the Missouri River So for the next couple of days as as the water comes downstream So let's think of a window of rain for us and I don't think it's a lot of rain, but it's at least a rain

1:33:33Say from eight o'clock tonight until nine o'clock tomorrow morning. That's kind of the window of opportunity Okay, fair enough then the front comes through north west flow opens up It's noticeably cooler tomorrow. We'll be lucky if we hit 72 I actually think temperatures will fall into the sixties during the afternoon We're looking at a temperature of about 51 degrees Friday night. So temperatures Dropping through the sixties for evening plans, but it's clear. It's beautiful Temperatures upper sixties low seventies and sunshine all weekend long. Excellent Beautiful perfect perfect. Hadline's rage Yep, and Dave's weather is sponsored by Scott credit union Okay, fewer Americans now see college as very important. There's a new Gallup poll that finds just 31% of adults Now say that a college education is very important That's down from 35% last year and less than half of the 70% who felt that way as soon as 2013

1:34:37Hmm It's interesting though because employers still seem to value degree Yeah, it's often required to even apply for a lot of jobs. I think they're killing the golden goose colleges Maybe Maybe but I mean the skis. No, the truth is all pretty much always been that The importance of it is all about what you want to do If you want to be in architecture you it's pretty important. It's like 100% important to go to college if you want to be a doctor It's 100% yeah, if you're just gonna Try to make money somehow maybe it's not that important. You know, I think it depends on what you're doing to a trade right I feel like we've trade though. I think a lot of people have taken colleges and important to In intelligence isn't that important and I think they've conflated those two things a lot now because you Yeah, you can't have like literacy rates dropping off as much as they are and people just like I don't think okay You write that not necessarily you don't need a college degree for everything and anything But I think a lot of people were like well, I'm not doing a book learning

1:35:40Then it's it's not the same thing, but we did do that. How long when when did you say when would you guys say it started Dave and Dave where it was like everybody should go to college was that like the 80s was it my generation? Yeah, because I know it was a while before it was just kind of like Probably the way it should have been or maybe the way it is now. Yeah, but for a long push it would just like everybody needs to go to college Everybody needs to go to college. Yeah, and then the more that pushed the more the cost of going to college went up Mm-hmm where it used to be more reasonably affordable to do and I'm talking relative. I'm not talking just total dollars. It's not just inflation The prices of these things have gone up way more than inflation over the last 20 years If it's your first time getting a passport It's gonna get a bit easier than it's been in the past secretary of state Marco Rubio has announced that starting in 2027 most Americans are gonna be able to apply for their first passport entirely online Through America dot gov our new AI chatbot friend

1:36:40Uh, and you upload your required documents and a photo you can take your own photo I just renewed my passport Uh, I want to say back in July I got that done and I was able to actually Dave took my photo in the fall in a hall here Do you remember that Dave? That should be legal Uh, so yeah, they say if your picture is bad, it'll be your fault Okay, previously you had to go to like the post office or something. Yeah first ever passport. Yeah, the old post office California has banned child marriage and Governor Gavin Newsom said this is a long overdue measure to protect young Californians and miners and today California kids are safer than ever before There was pushback. However from the ACLU Wow, they argue that marriage is a fundamental right and has benefits for younger parents who may now face quote serious unintended harm. Do you know how they're finding true age limit? Yeah, yeah

1:37:40That's what I would love 18 so anyone who's not an adult cannot get married or enter a domestic Partnership even with parental consent. So a lot of states are a lot of times. It's like oh, there's a parental and consent clause and then many people have said you know Let's put it this way. I'm sure it's worked out for many people But then there's also people who are being pressured into these situations But hey my parents side well if your parent is the one Pressuring you or they've been being booze or some way shape or form right So no, I thought that was interesting that they see you pointed out the the weaknesses and it will see if anything changes in the future How's it gonna hit you guys? Like on one hand I thought you're gonna say like 14 sure because I can't see no younger Yeah, you can be in third grade and get married But like it makes sense though because under 18 you you can't legally make that variance I think from a from a sign of contract from a government standpoint right that's kind of the point you can't sign a legally binding agreement when you're 16

1:38:44You have to be an adult to do that otherwise you have to have a parent signing that with you so from a purely just What's Inforceable and what's not it does have some sense to it to do it that way Mm-hmm. I see where the ACLU is coming from if let's say two 17 year olds Are having a baby and they want the legal protections of marriage As they enter into parenthood together. I understand that too. Yeah me too So maybe there should be some sort of clause, but then it's like then are you incentivizing? I mean, I don't know. I don't know the answer Because then you're right to other people to start getting pregnant so they can get married early Let's see here. What did I do with my headlines? There they are health secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr Is planning to announce a new nationwide competitions for schools and it's supposed to expand participation in the presidential fitness test So earlier in the year we talked about or maybe it was last year. I'm sorry They are reviving the presidential fitness test, but it's only

1:39:46It required for Schools on US military installations. So a lot of schools haven't opted into the presidential fitness test So now they are doing a challenge that offers seven million dollars in prizes to schools who demonstrate effective ways to Empliment the test and then another three million dollars in awards and vouchers are gonna be available for fitness or sports equipment This is just to get people excited about the presidential fitness test again. Did you guys take that? Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, I don't remember what what's in it? Ah, you're like I remember broad jumping and yeah that kind of stuff Running was the rope climb and that thing right when the rope climb was I hate the rope climb we didn't have that we couldn't afford a rope so Just climb the biggest kid That's all we use for it's all we use for fences and Southore examiner Okay Okay, one more story space X launched four astronauts on a fast track to the ISS today

1:40:50This is gonna go all the way until spring And one of the astronauts actually has a wife who's going to give birth while he's away on this mission Space X launched commander Jessica Watkins and her crew for NASA um Today Thursday and they'll be there for six months, but the flight there was the quickest yet for space X a mere eight hour transit And they're getting there like before it's even time for them to go to bed. So I mean this is this is very cool um They usually make a bigger deal out of that and surprise them just now hearing about it like that's I don't know. Maybe it's becoming more wrote. I think it's becoming more routine to just See launches like this all of the time, but this one is really cool. It's also neat because Jessica Watkins is the first black woman to lead a crew to orbit Excellent, and this is her second trip to the space station following a lengthy stay in 2022 So she's coming back for around two and it would do this every time, but would you guys go if you had the shot space station?

1:41:50No, yes, yes, I go there today We can make that Baby Jesus ality Somebody I need to Each moment I get out of my dial Can't barely stand on my feet Take a look, take a look In the rock, rock, rock What about you, tell me, yeah I've spent all my years in believing you But I just can't get the relief Launch the box You know, it gives me hope in humanity

1:42:51And I'm being serious This The fact that human beings did this Queen probably more than any other band Like when I'm driving home and I turn my stereo in loud If I play something from Queen, I'm like I just want to come back here and get on the air And play the whole song and be like Do you people realize what's happening here? Do you understand? Like just humans did this Yeah and as we're moving closer to A-I Well, we're not moving closer to A-I Being like some of the most downloadable, streamable music Yeah On Spotify and stuff now So yeah No, I hate to correct you It's SI I'm not gonna be corrected Yeah Do you have a news and sign something where it's A-I still out there? So just Do you guys agree with this? I wrote on my show sheet today I personally don't feel like A-I Anthropic and you know All the different ones have sold me on it Like there's a lot of noise out there about How it's gonna kill us and it's going to

1:43:52Take all the jobs And I'm not pushing against that I don't want that to happen Right But I don't feel like there's a whole lot from them going Hey wait a minute We're gonna cure cancer We're going to this We're going to that And I feel like they need to do that Like they need to sell us on Why we shouldn't all be so freaked out I don't think they care I think it's there just wanting to make the money They don't care what Happens I think they are all A bunch of them are nihilistic I think they just see the end of the world I think You've got a lot of leaders that are like I'm going to bring about the end of the world Because after what is there after me And I don't think Think their narcissism is so great They can't conceive of a world without them making the decisions So they just don't care They don't care That's spooky Well you saw Tucker Carlson right When he was talking about his meeting with Donald Trump Before the Iron War We're all gonna die anyway And it's like Well what about our kids was Tucker's response

1:44:53Like And he goes Find me Find me No one will ever find me an answer You're probably me You're keeping touch All right you're lett-or-ed And I'd be so much I said I'd never Never be angry with you I don't want to feel like a straight Well you're back guys DG has some KMOX Happy Thursday If you want to just pass 4 p.m I am headin out of town Tomorrow to go see the girl at KU And she's having a party at her house Ooh Here warm it up Chris Here we go brother Now when you say house You mean sorority house No no no no no

1:45:54The classic college progression It seems to me Is dorm Yeah And then sorority or frat If you go Greek If not most kids get really kick ass Apartments yeah I remember telling Nick when he had his apartment I'm like you're never going to live like this again Until you're 45 Like just just know that And some of them have some really cool places Really Mizzou has some great places And and then the progression is You move in with a couple of buddies into the monster's house And that's where we're at here So you go from the nice apartment to the Oh my god, it's his house gonna stand When we drove away Maureen was tearing up I'm like I know it's always tough right She's like no it's the house I'm like are we bad parents She's like well all the other ones look like that I think all young people should live in that situation Just to get a taste for it Like they've had it too easy You lived at mom and dad's house

1:46:55Typically nice You go to college your dorm is nice As you mentioned then you get into the really nice Whether it's a frat house Or a on campus apartment At some point you need to live in the real world Because when you're done you're probably living in a crappier place Yes this is true When my daughter was touring campuses We went to Truman State And I love to Truman State Well so Meckens like I really like the school I really like all this stuff And then she started looking at the housing And to your point You start in the dorm But at Truman There's really not nice housing Outside of the dorm And we were looking at some of the Greek houses And I'm like Is that not condemned Like that frat house Looks like Delta Tau Kai And should be Torn down right now I think that's going to fall in on itself Yeah And she's like I don't really know if I want to go to school up here Nick was the same Truman was great academically

1:47:56Yeah Still I think it's still the best value in the country Well they call it what the harbor of the Midwest And I understand why Because there is nothing to do In Curgeville except go to school Yeah my buddy Dr. Rob Hagen went there And he told Nick he's like It's a great school I had a great time But he said if there's ever been a college It's like high school Like you know every one of the college Oh I could say it is not a big town Yeah He's like Yeah Okay I don't know this can be heard Did you have that college experience No I went to Arkansas state in Jonesboro I started there and I joined Sigma Pi fraternity Which it was weird for us because In Jonesboro only teaks had a house Everybody else either had like a dorm wing Did everybody live in Did they are Well we had the saying If you can't go Greek go teak If you can't go teak go home It was just that kind of thing But we had an alumni who built an apartment complex With a house in the middle

1:48:56So when we had our meetings and parties and stuff We had like a little what we called house It was it was a big open space That was about four rooms with a kitchen And that's where we did that But we had 24 apartments And two bed two bath apartments And we all lived in that Yeah And that was pretty cool To Kevin's part That was We were enjoying that part of apartment And then when I left that I moved to a monster's house With three of my buddies Who were my fraternity brothers And we had some amazing parties there My job in college was working at KJBR And one of the jobs that I had to do was Board up in Cardinal baseball games That are originated from KMOS Pretty cool It's funny how life is going All the back of KMOS right It really does Everything comes back to KMOS eventually But I'm driving home from a West Coast game At like one o'clock in the morning

1:49:56And as I drive down the street to my house There are cars on both sides of the road And I'm like What the hell is going on I had to drive through two neighbors yards To park in my yard Seems reasonable There were so many cars there And I open up the door to walk in my house And this guy's like Hey man How you doing? Welcome you want a beer? And I'm like Sure Who are you? He was he introduced himself I had no idea who this guy was And I'm like Who's house is this He goes I don't know It's a great party And I'm like Oh that's that's awesome Well two doors now Was a Sheriff Deputy Who lived down there And he came by about 30 minutes after I got home And was knocking on the door And somebody opened the door And then slammed it in his face And I'm like Oh That's not great So I went out and talked to him Because I was like the only sober one there And he said Tell you what I'll give you a half hour For everybody to go home

1:50:59If not I'm calling my friends And we're going to come in And start arresting all of you That's reasonable Hi Could have been worse I appreciate the heads up man And we will start sending people home right now So you were a party or in college? Yes and no So I had my party side But I also worked A radio job While I was there So I got my stuff done to a point I didn't finish Because I ran out of money And that's where I joined the naval reserve And became a Navy corpsman And then Ended up on the 32-year degree planet, Lyndon Wood Okay Thank God for LCEIE Right So that got us there How was your military service It was only naval reserve So it was It was not Exciting But I I enjoyed it What's funny is If someone shot me right now Could you take care of me Depending on how I could get you to I can keep you alive Until somebody gets there That's pretty cool Yeah I can do IVs If you get shot

1:51:59I could do a sucks in chess room Bigs Playing exactly So I know how to do all that stuff That's pretty cool I can fix you with that Although remind you It's been 37 years Since I did that So I wouldn't bank on my medical trainings It's been a minute We'll show me today Yeah Not today Maybe tomorrow But we'll do that It meant a lot to me though But what's funny is Less than a year after I got my discharge papers And I left Was when the Iraq war started Wow With the senior George Bush Yeah And started that And my Field Hospital unit actually went So if I would have stayed in Arkansas Because I got the job at 97 one That we were talking about with Trish A few weeks ago If I hadn't gotten that job I wouldn't have moved to Saint Louis I still would have been involved And I would have gone to Iraq When did you and Maureen work together? Was that hot in 97? No, we worked together When she was at WIL and I was at the river Okay And we moved to Creve Corps Yeah So we moved to the Palace on Balles

1:53:00Yeah That's Because that's when I've still never been in there Have you not? No It used to be a great building I have no idea now I've definitely not interviewed there a few times That's good to know Thanks Thanks change so much Yeah Wheels, what was your favorite place to live in college? I didn't live anyplace nice And Well you were playing ball We had you know Regular old dorms that were basically just What do you call cinder block walls that were painted So nothing special The second on campus thing was just an apartment building That was probably built in the 1940s or 50s So it was old as well Is it all palatial now? Oh my god yeah None of those things are even either tearing all of those things down And building brand new buildings and things like that And then we lived off campus one year So the one off campus was probably the nicest one But it wasn't like nice It was just okay Baseball players had different living accommodations When we were at Arkansas state Then the football and basketball Oh yeah

1:54:01Yeah yeah I mean we were at You know we had the same apartment buildings Like each sport was kind of Art baseball built Like a apartment building was kind of one spot And there were a couple other people mixed in there And then the football buildings They were all kind of the same Then And I got to say the baseball apartments that I lived in That was easily the worst apartment I've ever lived in My life It was awful And Rachel you lived in the Kim and Mo dorms like I did Just Kim But yeah I went to community college And I worked throughout college So I didn't I don't have any of these fun stories Neither do I Neither do I Really No I lived at home with my mom and dad Went to S.I.U. Rantrak Didn't study much And when I went to law school at WashU Everyone was Ivy League You know and they all had these stories Well, it would muffle you and I And And I just I felt so left out And it was then that I said If I have kids One thing I'm going to insist on is that they go to college and they go away Yeah And Yeah

1:55:01Complished Complished There's value to that There is Like being on your own Even if it's just a few hours Our oldest went to Lindemwood He got a great scholarship and went to Lindemwood And He lived in the dorm his first year And then after that he's like Yeah, I never want to do that again I really like having my room And having my big bed And being able to come and go like So he ended up just commuting The last three years And lived at home And like well He didn't really have a college experience Yeah, but Megan went to Central Missouri And it was that kind of reason Because Jennifer and I were both I mean stupid What's that Call me stupid Is that central most day Yeah, that Maureen's knees went there And she was wearing a sweatshirt Oh my god, it's cool Oh yeah, call me stupid Call me stupid You never heard of something like that I had never heard that before That was pretty So my dad went to S.I.U. Carbondale, I tell you that So mom and dad met at Hannibal Grange And then that was a two-year school back then And then after he graduated He finished up his four-year at S.I.U

1:56:04How was dad's birthday? Dad's birthday was great It's funny, I was just telling Rachel What a difference a week can make, right? So Last Saturday he turned 94 Monday he had a stroke Yesterday he's on hospice Oh my god So we're probably going to lose my dad In the next couple of days Oh I'm so sorry Thanks It's been a challenging week You know How is he? He's not good Like not at all Is he out of it? Yeah, he doesn't know anybody He doesn't know my sister And she's there And you know I was just talking to him And we were talking about the baseball playoffs And you know What's going on? And how You know the Cardinals will be good In two years So hang in there Because the record for our family And I may have told you this 95 and 8 months Is the record for Elam And you know At 94 I'm like Dude you're two years Like this is legit You could get there And then

1:57:04He just had that happen And and it all changed And I put an update on Facebook And it's the picture That I took with him the day before I left When I was up there three weeks ago And um It's It's one of those kind of things Andrew and I were just talking about And he was talking about You know Losing his mom and how quick things change Like that But I was reading all the comments And You know You're You're dealing with everything And you're fine To a point And then something just triggers And you're like Wow I'm just a Blubbering mess All of a sudden But You know Dad was a Southern Baptist Minister For nearly 60 years And he touched so many people's lives Over that And I knew it But Reading the comments That people put on there You know He married us He baptized me You know He led me to faith in Christ Or he was our Our music minister He sang at our wedding He

1:58:05He counseled me with this You know We love your dad He was so great I remember him when I was a kid And I mean you just have All those things You start seeing these memories That people have And You're like I'm so thankful That He was my dad That's really sweet Yeah So It's It's going to be tough We As we go forward Um But you know It's Life changes man Life changes quick And You You learn to appreciate What you have And how things are Because Um You never know But It's You It's I appreciate all the people Who have Have gone on My Facebook page And commented about You know Thoughts and prayers And I appreciate that But the folks in You know

1:59:06Donovan and Piggit And Berryville And Heinzville And Huntsville You know He was a pastor at Eolia Uh Up here You know And um Elm Baptist Church in Mexico And You You see these stories that You know Seven years ago And you're just like Wow What a legacy I know So I'm very proud of him And I'm very proud of the life That he led Can't do much better You know He can I need four years It's like Andrew was saying Hey You know Southern Baptist Minister He's got some pull With the big cat What can you man He's got chips in the bank Right So he's He's going to be good We love you buddy I appreciate you man Thank you How many times have I cried today As you can see Dave you're going to need uh You're going to need an extra gummy tonight Dude It's been a while, Joe

2:00:06It's like Four Yes Four 24 days The night is young Three I've had three cries and one blubbering Yeah Uh You know The curse of being Scottish But you know You know a lot of say Like not Not being silly or anything Every single one of those moments Makes sense You know what I'm saying Yeah Yeah You know And one of them was more of a cool Like happy Like this is really impressive You know With Addy Yeah If you're crying or in throwback Thursday that would might have been a lot of fire But I agree Yeah Do you What was the thing you brought up during that Would nobody reply to The first thing I was like They made it a national bird That's if you'd cry to that Now we got a problem He's like He's like It became a national bird He's like Simony But sometimes you guys Well at least give me like a That was pretty bad It's like

2:01:06Ted Silent I was like I can't come up with anything I hope somebody old does Donald Trump called it Yo Simony He really He did Oh Would you like reading it off the telepopter Yes I think it was I'm not gonna I'm not gonna Yeah I get that one It was his first administration Oh was it Yeah Yo Simony I can Yeah I'll get him on I'll get on him for it I mean Inferred a lot of people It's a word you've heard But maybe not seen written out When it's that Maybe you'll get it a little bit more He was just zoning out It teleprompter time Even then he was 78 And only like I think you're being a little too If you're 78 And of sound enough Mind and body To be elected president Should be able to read You should know what you're simmity is Maybe I just have extra compassion Because I've had my I've had my Yeah, your own moments You're on burgundy lines My side Yeah You see You know, he designed the SI contract With all the SI people But underneath his Signature

2:02:07It says president of the United States Not united Yeah Like like Johnny Like the quarterback Pretty much Who is writing This stuff And not dude Like, didn't they put it Through Microsoft word I'm they I didn't use AI Or maybe they did But That's probably why it's wrong Because you say AI Misspelled the name of the country Sorry Sorry Si I don't want to get it wrong Every time you guys say Si I think of sports I do too That's why it's such a stupid thing Yeah Because sports illustrated is SI It's like We're calling it MLB Yeah We're gonna call it We're gonna call it NFL Don't put it past him He would totally do that These Good times We guys doing tomorrow How's the show tomorrow I don't know Normal Friday I'm gonna put a good stuff Figure it out when we get here Gonna be hanging out I don't think we'll break today's record though for cries Do you pray a lot? I don't think there's a reason for that

2:03:08Without me here That's like losing Reggie Jackson Yeah This drama is Thursday Break the news I'm the new Mr. October