Four years of war: can Ukraine continue to defy Putin?

Four years into Russia’s full-scale invasion, Ukraine is still fighting – but the strain is visible. How has the conflict changed since those first days of war? Why would a free and fair election in Ukraine be so difficult? And is peace even conceivable?

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Guests: 

• Anthony Loyd, special correspondent for The Times.
• Neo, Ukrainian drone unit commander.
• Anastasiia Romaniuk, researcher based in Kyiv.
• With thanks to our Ukrainian voices from the ground: Iryna Bortniuk, Pavlo Tkachenko, Natalia Zubar, Logan & Ostap.

Host: Manveen Rana.

Producers: Harry Stott and Julia Webster.

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Further listening: A new peace plan, and a critical moment for Zelensky

Clips: BBC

Photo: Photo: Paul Brookbanks, Getty Images.

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