Fantasy Football Week 4 Recap - Winners Only Club

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1:00So get your friends together, get your tickets, and tell them it's game time. Download. Yes, the game time app. Great to count and use code fantasy for $20 off your first purchase term supply. Again, create an account and redeem the code F-A-N-T-A-S-Y for $20 off. Find college football and NFO matchups on game time and download the app today. All never arrives all at once. A jacket meets a dress. An old cap finds a new scarf. You create it, lager by lager. Find fall your way at Ross. Oh, yes. Welcome to the week four game by game recap. And what a Sunday it was. For 75% of you, biking skier Will Riker might have been your high scoring player. But if not, that means you actually had a very, very good fantasy week. And gentlemen, I think there are three, four no teams left in the NFL, depending on, you know, Sunday night football and Monday night football. However, the O-N-Four teams, a couple of them, might actually be the more notable and

2:04shocking developments that we have here. And hey, let's kick off with one of those as Houston Texans fall to O-N-Four on the season as they lose 34 to 30 to the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, I'm looking at this box score. CJ Straal, 347 yards, two scores. Nico Collins, the trickle down effect is real. Seven receptions, 118 yards and two scores. And yet, Hayden, is this the best game? CD Lam has ever played 21 targets, 17 receptions, 189 yards and one time. CD Lam's now on pace for 2116 receiving yards through four games here. This was sensational game planning by the Dallas Cowboys. Starting into this one, I've been noticing that the Texans, like middle of the field play, has been kind of more busty. And like, Kamari Lasseter was struggling in one-on-one situations. And in this game, CD Lam played a season high 38 percent of his snaps inside the slot,

3:05including the game winner where he got open on a little skinny post against Jalen Petri. On that play, like, Florinoise, he's being sacrificed to Derek Stingley. There was a couple of explosives from CD Lam here, like, he had like a 30 yard play. But as you can see here, almost all of his damage was just quick throws underneath. And those linebackers weren't making plays. The safeties were missing some tackles here. So I thought CD Lam played excellent football as he typically does. Dac Press got knew that he was going to be under duress for a lot of this game. I saw lots of chippings from tight ends and running backs here. But the game plan was chip will Anderson throw the ball into the flats to CD Lam and make these backups at linebacker make plays. And guess what? The Texans, the linebackers did not make plays. So I thought Dac Press got played well, composed football. CD Lam dominated his matchup. And then George Picken wasn't relied on too much in this game. But he was drawn some coverages. He had some awesome moments against Lasseter and then Javante Williams just plunged it in

4:08for a couple scores here. But the story of this game to me was just the CD Lam slot work. And I thought that was a really good game plan by the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, it feels like this, the story of this game was elite receivers on both sides of it too. Nico Collins coming back that impact was immediate. I'll pull back the curtain here for the viewers and listeners. I totally thought this was one of my games to watch too. So I watched a good jump. So which, you know, hey, if I can get a good wide receiver show out of it, I think I feel fine about that. But yeah, Hayden, I was going to echo a lot of your points about this Texans defense it right now in today's NFL. Like if you don't have the spine addressed, it is really hard to be the best defense in the NFL. And that is where the Texans find themselves. It's all honestly where the Eagles find themselves too. Those were consensus like top three to five defenses in the league. I don't think either one of them is performed like that so far. Yeah, it stinks because I think Will Anderson is playing like an all pro show. See the best defensive player in the league and yet the Texans are Owen for and yet they

5:10aren't one of these teams that can totally like win a game for their offense. And the offense has needed that over the last couple of weeks. Now sure, they only allowed 19 points and ended up as Colts and then 20 points and since any bingles. But we're seeing other, you know, defenses shut down opposition for nine, seven, 12 points, all that type of stuff. I mean, CJ Shrott has played pretty well. Yes, he in first half's I felt got passes on target and then second half kind of had to press and press and press and maybe that's when some of the negatives happened. But where do the Texans go from here? And dare I say this might be the best Owen 14 of all time in the NFL. Well, with Nico Collins, sure, like this team feels a lot different. I will say like they really do need their linebackers to play better. Kamari Lasseter was getting cooked by George Pickens and obviously if you started George Pickens, like you don't love the stat line to catch his 75 yards. He drew a defensive pass interference, a couple of them in the end zone on top of that.

6:12And there was I was listening to some of the Cowboys reporters who were there and they were saying that the Texans were kind of shading the safety a little bit more towards the George Pickens side, which you felt that if you're watching the CDLAM because nobody was standing next to him for the entire game. So frustrating game for George Pickens. Once again, CDLAM, you can make an argument that he's right on the door of the top five, top eight overall asset. It definitely wanted like the guys you needed. If you did CDLAM Kenneth Walker, your team looks pretty dang sweet right now. That was absolutely possible this season. Quickly on the Cowboys defense side, it was still a struggle for them not stopping the run. I mean Montgomery and Woody Marks. We don't have to talk about those guys didn't go anywhere this entire game. But we don't yeah, well, we don't have to spend too much time. It's just not going to work. But the secondary has some issues. They were playing a guy ready, stewart, never heard of them. But I heard that name a million times in this game. He was in coverage against Nico Collins.

7:12The Caleb Downs messed up on the Nico Collins touchdown where bland was playing outside leverage and then Nico Collins busted it inside and Caleb Downs kind of in no man's land. So there were still lots of coverage bus. The Ron bland in one-on-one situations. He was getting cooked by like Jalen Noel, obviously Nico Collins got him a couple times as well. So the Cowboys defense in the back, back seven like we should still feel very comfortable targeting against them. And the Texans offense, they really did move the ball at this point. CDS rounds averaging 285 yards per game. He does not have an interception on the season as well. And they're oh and four. And that was with some of the worst wide receiver play. Yeah, definitely. No, no, no interceptions with some of the worst wide receiver play without Nico Collins. And the second Betty got in there 45 yard in cut the man coverage and zone touchdown versus bland scrambled real touchdowns. He had a screen in there, third and two slot in breaker in the fourth quarter. Like it was just relentless from Nico Collins. So I feel very good about Nico Collins moving forward just because this offense cannot move

8:13the ball in any other capacity. It's like it's literally just him. What a stud. What a stud. I will say because this is my this is my beat. This is my corner. Jalen Noel has the explosive play 50 yard reception on the out and up early in this game. And I joked on Twitter like now it's time to make sure he never sees another target the rest of the game. It took until the freaking fourth quarter for him to get another target, which was just and again, another explosive play 20 plus yards over the middle of the field. I joked with Nate on the forecast this week that like Noel must be smoking sigs and fall asleep in meetings because otherwise I have no idea. By this guy's not more involved. He did actually run a route though on 72 or 73% of the dropbacks, which was a career high for him. And it was much more skewed toward the second half. He was over 80% in the second half. So I did hear Nick Kayley say like, oh, we want to keep getting him work. Like we want to keep getting him involved. We're not we're not upset with him or anything. So again, I think he's a good player that that could actually help this team. But we'll see. Yeah, to your point, he also had a kick return on the first for Jalen Noel that went for

9:17an explosive there as well. And Josh just quickly on the running backs. It was the same rotation as usual. David Montgomery actually awesome play late in the game. It was a hook and ladder. I forget who caught the ball. So I'm going to be in the flat in David Montgomery that goes through the B gap and catches like the hook and ladder for I think is what like 13 or 19 yards. And then after that play, Woody marks gets subbed in at the six yard line. He scores the touchdown. It's largely the same split here. But like if you thought that David Montgomery is going to get every inside the 10 yard line carry this season, like you're just wrong. And he's not going to create any explosives this season because the offensive line is in the shape that it is. So I don't know what you do with David Montgomery. Like I would sell low. Honestly, like I don't know how this gets turned around really. Yeah, it's back to back weeks where Woody marks as a rushing touchdown and David Montgomery does not have one. Again, we would think in a game where they score 30 points and they were favorites heading

10:20into it that that on paper was a Dave Montgomery game. But even here again, 10 carries for 24 yards, simply not good enough. They do have the Tennessee Titans next week. They're going to be favored in that game. So again, you might go back to the well, but at the same time, this Titans rush defense has been quite good with Jeffrey Simmons and company. And then after that, like hey, you just simply can't play him against a team like Jacksonville Jaguars. And to that point, like he farted in the in zone three times in week one ever since then, he barely has three carries of eight yards or more if that. So this is just where we're at, I think, with the team. Hey, in final question to you, we can say that, hey, this Texans defense can turn around and Will Anderson is a great player. And this Texans offense can turn around now that Nico Collins is a trickle-down player for them. I'm looking at Owen for. I know they have some favorable teams coming up on the schedule with the Titans, the Giants, the Chargers, the Browns, et cetera, et cetera. But do you think that Kayleigh makes it for the entire season? I don't know what Nick Kayleigh did wrong in this game, to be honest.

11:20Like, I mean, he got Nico Collins the ball. Jaylen Noel had a couple of explosives. I like them sticking with him in part of the lineup. I mean, he can only do so much with this offensive line, you know? And I think that's where it's more of like the whole leadership of the Houston Texans. This has been a problem for four straight years. I mean, truly, how much longer could we actually survive by playing this way? I think Strauss had a pretty good season this year. And with Nico Collins going like, this team can put up some points. Luckily, they're in a division where they can kind of get back into things, but it's most likely going to be a wildcard at this point. So you need like teams like the Broncos losing close games. That's who they're going to be competing against to sneak back in here. Luckily the Titans are really bad. The Colts have been very up and down. They really need their linebackers to get healthy. And their corner has got to play like shut down corners. And like this year they have not. All right, Matt speaking of offensive lineman, let's talk about the Green Bay Packers as they go into Tampa Bay and beat the Bucks 17 14.

12:22The Bucks were, I'm not gonna say a trendy NFC South champion pick, but they certainly had a lot of favorites out there. They are 0 and 4 on the season and they bring in Jaylen Daniels. I can't wait to hear how he looks after one touchdown, two in reception, three sacks taken in 148 yards. But let's first talk about the Packers, okay? 197 yards, two touchdowns for Jordan Love, one interception and zero sacks taken. Was this, hey, let's just do enough and get out of here with this one? Yeah, I mean, kind of Jordan Love was 18 to 20 on passes of under 10 air yards. He actually didn't really get anything going down the field. Which I thought was surprising because this Bucks defense is pretty vulnerable. And you know, they've left a lot of voids down the field for quarterbacks like Dishon Watson and the like this year. So it was a little bit surprised about that. Some plays left on the field too. They had a really frustrating goal line sequence. The first play of the second quarter, Tucker Kraft drops a touchdown. He eventually did score later in the game, but he dropped touchdown there. And then they just could not get in on the goal line until Matthew Golden finally had

13:26like a pretty nice leaping catch along the in the end zone there. But the run game actually was significantly better for Green Bay in this game. I mean, it was a true split backfield. So I don't actually know if there's a real fantasy winner here, because it was truly split kind of all over the place. Marsha Lloyd ends up leading the way in terms of touches, 48% of the running back touches. But he didn't get anything going on the ground. He was useful as a receiver, whereas meanwhile Caleb Johnson had some nice runs kind of up the gut there. Like Mita Veya was off the field and he had his longest run then. But then he also fumbled in this game. Chris Brooks had a couple of nice moments. So again, I don't think we can come out of it being like, ooh, the Packer is run game. Now we might want to start these guys in fantasy because it was just a true, true split. But you know, Lake and Tomlinson at least being in the mix at guard was a welcome sight considering some of the other things they've rotated in and out this year. Tucker Crafts made so many like kind of just knucklehead moments to see is obviously that drop touchdown was pretty killer, but it was able to get in like you said.

14:28Was there anything different about like how they were utilizing him? I've seen seven targets in this one. Christian Watson with only three and he's he's going to be like one of the tight ends that I've had a difficult time ranking every single week because I know he has way more potential and like yard doctor catchability than what he's shown this season. So like I'm hoping that we're like getting back to the point where we can trust Tucker Crafts and top 10 option. Yeah, the touchdown was frustrating, but otherwise he did have it was all a lot of like short stuff. And which is a little bit skewed because of course he's getting used to around the goal line. But seven yards after catch per reception. There is at least some moments where he looked a little bit more like Tucker Crafts. And I think the drop just might be one of those. Hey, he hasn't practiced a ton. He's not totally in rhythm. Just fluky stuff for him because this is usually a guy in his first few season in the NFL who like never drop passes and he's made a few mistakes each of the last few weeks. Matt to your point, a 31 yard run against this bucks front with Vita Vega by Caleb Johnson. And a 27 yard run by Chris Brooks who I think I saw a Packers fan refer to him as a left guard wearing number 30.

15:28I thought it was a very apt note for what Chris Brooks's role has been all season long. Yeah. And then there we have it. Marshall and Lloyd the seven carries an elongated of five. So I'm intrigued to see if the Packers make any moves here. Tony Pollard's name was mentioned by Adam Schaefter during Sunday morning because something has to change. I think for this team to be somewhat balanced because I know they only allowed 14 points. So right now the defense isn't good enough and Michael Parsons isn't going to come back till November. And then the passing game can be, but yet there's zero rushing attack to counts, balances the entire thing out for a team that loves play action. I'm just quote. What a quote for the Packers issue of Fumbling. A great teacher is the bench. I mean, I guess we'll find out. Yeah, it was really unfortunate for Caleb Johnson. He fumbled in the low red zone when and I did think he had a couple of nice moments. Like I mentioned, his one long run did come. I'm pretty sure when Vita V was off the field, which may have something to do with it because otherwise they didn't get a ton going up the gut.

16:29But yeah, March on Lloyd, at least did have a sweet hurdle in this game. So, you know, if you want to go back and watch those highlights after you drafted him over this summer to make yourself feel a little bit better, you can do that. Okay, Matt, I'm going to send it right back to you with the box here. Jalen Daniels, undrafted free agent, wins the second quarterback job out of camp. I mean, that's an incredible story in itself. I didn't watch a single snap of him playing here, but I know people who drafted him at the Boocacy for targets to receptions 13 yards. So, what did this passing attack look like with Jalen Daniels? I mean, there was just absolutely nothing going on downfield. He completed two passes past 10 air yards in this game, pretty much everything. He only attempted to think about maybe five of those anyways. It was a lot of short, get the ball out. You're going to see a lot more K-Dotten in the box score than you probably bargained for in this one. K-Dotten also had a pretty ugly drop, too, where he could have, that would might have been one of the longer, like, catch and run situations.

17:29But, yeah, six targets for K-Dotten, seven for Chris Godwin. Chris Godwin, by the way, averaged 0.29 air yards per target, and it felt like that watching the game. So, you know, again, what do we make of Jalen Daniels? He was pressured almost half of his dropbacks in this one, too, which I'm still, like, not quite sure what to make of the Buccaneers offensive line, because they have not, and again, how much is this quarterback? How much is this scheme? But it hasn't been what we bargained for to start this year. Some of these guys are losing just one-on-one situations, which I wasn't expecting. I was really excited about this offense because of the line, and that has been a disappointment. So, Jalen Daniels under pressure, a ton here, could some of that have been his work pre-snap, maybe. But for what he is an undrafted free agent, he definitely had, he did about as well as you possibly could have expected. And at least from, you know, if you're going to be like an absolute sick freak in Superflex, he had a couple of moments where he got out there and bogged in the open field. So, there's that. Yeah, I know we have some sick freaks that subscribe to the channel, so that's useful information.

18:32I was looking like, I'm going to count what's next. Interesting. Yeah, those linebackers are still up and down. Yeah. Both of them, Mecha's screens or receptions were screens in this one. So, you know, you know, we know what we're signing up for over there. Okay. Bucky Irving, I see leads the team in carries by a wide margin. But then I see the dreaded three carries for Sean Tucker with a touchdown there. What's the panic meter stuff on the Bucky Irving? We mentioned the offensive line, not looking as great the quarterback play. Now it is what it is. And now Sean Tucker is maybe sealing some goal line work. Like this has been pretty spooked. Yeah, offensive coordinators, Acrobatson was asked about, or I don't even know if he was asked or unprompted brought up. Like we need to get Sean Tucker more work. And I saw a lot of people kind of like hand waving that away this week. Well, promises made promises kept because he did plunge in the goal line touchdown here within side the two yard line. So that is definitely got to be concerning for Bucky Irving. Kenny Gainwell also scored on a receiving touchdown here too.

19:36Bucky ran more routes, but didn't get any targets. Whereas Kenny Gainwell got a few of the targets. So this is sort of that. Okay, this was the bad scenario for Bucky coming into the year where Gainwell is going to take some passing game work. And then Sean Tucker is going to take some goal line work. And it's tough guys because I think Bucky has looked good and even had some good runs. And when he can especially get to the edge and run to the outside, he's had some really nice moments. But he also has made a ton of mistakes this year too with like fun goals, some blown past protection, some some weird drops. It's kind of like three great plays for Bucky. And then the fourth one is a really frustrating mistake. So I can kind of understand maybe a coaching staff that is totally underwater is Owen for. Let's just let's just throw something else against the wall and see what sticks and that could be a negative for Bucky. Matt, you kind of mentioned it, but this team, the Bucks have a quick turnaround for Thursday night football. It's on the road against the Cowboys. Look, we have Stats versus Film before then. We have ranking shows before then.

20:38But where are you at? Uncertain these Bucks teams, these Bucks players against the defense like that. Is it is it Imechek Bukka as a wider see for three? Is it Bucky Irving as a running back to or is this, Hey, some of these really fringe flex decisions. I might lean towards a different quarterback and not rely on Jalen Daniels. Yeah, I also really worry that I mean, the type of quarterback Jordan Love is, he's always going to kind of hunt for explosives and you know, obviously in this game, they don't find a ton of those. But I worry about the type of quarterback that Dak Prescott is is a specifically bad matchup for a Todd Bulls defense where he can just be surgical and find the like Kurt Cousins always with tear up this Bucks defense because he's really. He's replaced the place. Yeah, just replaced a blitz and like he could do that all game. And I that would make me a little nervous for Bucky Irving who I do think now is entering that boom bus running back to phase. And for Imechek Bukka, can you even call him a wide receiver three? Like I think he looks good. I mean, he looks good on tape. He's like he's separating, but he is also running these long developing big overrounds.

21:41And just based on what we saw today, Jalen Daniels is not going to hit those consistently. Certainly, I mean, I think it's probably a bit of a wash like Packers defense, Cowboys defense. I would probably expect more the same, but Bukka is a talented player that can certainly get through, but I don't even know that I would call him a wide receiver three at this point. Yeah, meanwhile, the Packers have the Bears next. So can't wait for that conversation and that game coming up. All right, I'll take it next. Jacksonville Jaguars 22 since the United Bengals 17. Joe Borough throws for 428 yards. And Bengals lives. Why? Well, the Bengals only ran for 23 yards in this game. Jemarcheys left in the first half with a concussion. And then driving to win the game, they get to the plus 45. But Tiggins is out with a growing injury after catching 11 passes for 157 yards in this contest. And then Joe Borough had two rough interceptions, which were easy like the two worst plays of the day for him.

22:44Conversely, the Jaguars leading receiver was Britain's strange with 95 yards on seven targets, including a clutch third and eight to set up what turned out to be the game winning touchdown. I think we can copy and paste that middle of the field tied in targets against his Bengals defense until they show us that they can stop it. Brian Thomas Jr popped up with a touchdown. Thanks to Parker Washington, literally pulling two defenders away, wide open the back. Peawash, unfortunately for us, finishes with just one catch for seven yards. That catch was initially rolled a 39 yard gain, but he stepped out of bounds. And he also had a nearly big catch between two defenders, but couldn't corral it like he had kind of been doing in the opening three weeks of the season. Just keep going with this. I mean, it was a weird contest. And that Chris Rodriguez scored a 25 yard touchdown. Like the one snap that Dexter Lawrence was not on the field. But Basel Tutten had another nearly day. I mean, two touchdowns called back. One for 45 yards. It was a clear hold. Good call against Ezra Cleveland.

23:44And then another goal line touchdown. Also, holding and called back. So yeah, I mean, this Jaguar's team, they are. We stop the run and we play to create turnovers on defense. And then we have enough pieces and good coaching to get it done. Despite some maybe offensive line issues upfront. But again, they are three and one with some really tough games in their rear-fremare. I think that Bangle's defensive is just so fast ending. We see in the box score again. I was just looking at it last year. They allowed the most fantasy points to tie-dens at 21 per game to opposing tie-dens. And then they were third best against fantasy wide receivers. And then exactly that happens once again. So is it like almost as simple as that on the park or Washington stuff? I thought it was going to like, you know, evade DJ Turner and then be able to beat up on everybody else. But I guess if tie-dens are open over the middle of the field all the game long, you know, that's just going to be the first read on a lot of this stuff. Yeah, from what I could tell, we'll go through in the Satsura system. They were in a ton of 12 personnel like they were zooming in on Nick Borkerture and some of these

24:48other guys, right? And so if that's the case, then P-Wash is lining up on the outside and seeing DJ Turner. I mean, again, this Bangle's team has definitely improved. I mean, they sacked her allowance four times. And on the outside and the defensive one, they've invested so much. It truly has improved. But again, the linebackers and the safeties, it is not matching up with the talent and the elevation that the other units have for sure. Yeah, I just worry they're going to be one of those funnel defenses over the middle of the field. Yeah, I'll certainly be interested to see the park or Washington, like go back and watch that tape because you would think he's about 46 percent snaps in the slot here. You would think he would have avoided DJ Turner a good bit in this one. And also this can just be as simple as like, hey, stuff happens. Unless you're, and even frankly, this happens to the big boys at wide receiver. But Josh, like even if you're even like through anybody other than like the two or three best receivers in the league, you're going to have games like this is just part of it. I mean, I know people we freaking out about it all week, you know, whining and crying. But like, this is what happens to basically every

25:51wide receiver in the league. If you are a wide receiver to this happens, if you're a wide receiver three, this happens almost every week. It's very frequent. So yeah, like you're saying, unless you're top five, top eight, then we're going to see the some high varianceness to your game. Just quickly on the bingles, I mean, again, just so many injuries and the T Higgins thing, he had this awesome toe tapping grab for a 10 yard game, his 10th catch of the game on the sideline. It instantly grabs his groin. Somehow he comes in like two series later. It has already been reported that it's an adductor injury. And that might mean like a multi week thing. Again, Jamar chase how he got his concussion is he had his jar with the catch along the sideline, got his face mask pulled. And as he was getting pulled, he was kind of getting held up off the ground. And then a jaguar's defender just comes up and destroys him to the ground. I mean, annihilation hit. So that sucks. And then chase brown couldn't get going in the Russian game at all. But chase brown had

26:54eight catches heading into this game. And here he is for 11 catches for 71 yards. And then Micah Sikki splits the safeties catches three for 40 and a touchdown. And if one one of T Higgins or Jamar chase misses Xenotime, I'm picking up Micah Sikki. If both miss, then I think Micah Sikki Hayden is in me that flexed conversation out there. I think that's interesting. I'm also looking up a player, Dante Myers nine targets. Just looking up the first two. I'm on I got his Wikipedia open right now. Undrafted player. You with a Delta state Delta state named the state. I don't know where Delta state is. And then he has been on the Saskatchewan Rough Riders for the last couple of years. And yes, going into this game, I saw the the local beat talking about him being like they kind of really liked this guy. And obviously with Yoshi Vosch, sideline as well. Like he's going to be on the football field with Joe Burrow, but potentially this week without the top two wider receivers, like this is going to be

27:57somewhere we're going to have to get right for the wavewireshow. This is actually one of the the best stories in the NFL and kind of Andrew Hawkins. In that, like you said, Dante Myers had to pay his way in order to get a CFL audition and then goes out there and gets like a thousand yards in the CFL. And then Joe Burrow, sometime this all season, I'm going to have this story completely right says, Hey man, do you want to throw? I know you're in the area. And Dante Myers says, yes, is not in the area. And instead drives himself overnight to get a pitch and catch session. And with Joe Burrow. And as you said, he pops up here for seven catches for 82 yards. The early stuff was screens. And he has some juice to his game like our chapter catch. And then he made some major downfield catches too, along with Mitchell Tinsley doing the exact same thing. So yeah, Dante Myers, I'll be talking with Joe with after Monday Night Football on the wavewireshow. That's for sure, Matt. I'm absolutely charting this guy this week for sure. I got a comment on, I just did a video for

29:00my YouTube channel ranking all 32 NFL wide receivers. And I made the point about, yeah, the bangles are awesome. But they've actually sneaky been desperate for a third receiver for some time now. And someone asked me in the comments about Dante Myers, like, I mean, I got nothing for you on the CFL tape. I'm not charting CFL tape. But we've got an NFL game here with 93% route participation. So I'm definitely going to take a look at this guy this week. Because yeah, like I said, they have been hurting for a real deal wide receiver three for a minute. So we'll see if it can be this. That's a pretty cool story there. Yeah. And just two more quick notes on this game. The first one is they were 24 penalties. 24. The rest were very flag happy, including the Jaguars had 10 penalties for 110 yards in the first half just ridiculous stuff. And Travis Hunter was excellent as a defensive back. He had one interception that was called back to do a good rough in the passer penalty. There are other hard hits along the sidelines and P.B.U.s as well. So he is really emerging. And like over the last 12-ish quarters, I think has played really, really, really good football

30:03here. All right. Patriots and bills. I mean, Hayden, Alacourt, my eye, this game was flashing, the scoreboard was flashing. And yet it's eft and chiseled with the game when it touched out. As the Patriots win 29 to 26, I mean, the Patriots are broken. Drake, May three touchdowns. How did I get fixed here in week four? I mean, this is just where our jobs become so impossible because things change so quickly. There is no reason to think that Drake, May would be the quarterback one in fantasy as of this recording right now. And that Romeo dobs would have another drop that goes to an interception. And by the way, I thought that was kind of Drake, May's fault more than anything was a bad ball. But then after that, he has a fourth and three catch that leads to a one-handed fade touchdown. He also had a high point skinny post touchdown earlier in the game. So he finishes with a monster game after looking unplayable. And the Patriots, quite frankly, they didn't want to

31:05play him when AJ Brown was healthy. The reason why these guys get going is like Mac Collins. He leaves in the third quarter with a calf injury. So by the end of this game, when this thing is really close going back and forth, it is eft and chiseled who's on the field in very key situations. He beat Harrison, who really struggled again in this game. The bills didn't have their top corner in this one. He beats Harrison for a first down and then has the one-handed grab of his life where it was someone handed grabs. There's like a little bobble element to it where he only uses one hand. This was just like, boom, caught it. And that was an awesome, awesome moment for him. The running backs, it was kind of like the same old split there. Neither of them had like the monster game, like nothing stood out like on tape there. But the offensive line, like how did a couple kind of gaps. But for the most part, to me, like the thing that stood out for the Patriots more than anything was Drake made just using his legs 54 rushing yards in this one. This is something that

32:06Mike Brable talked about after the game. Like that was the difference. We get to the bill side in a second here, not as much scrambling around for Josh Allen. And this one Drake made pulled a pulled away. And then kind of some no-nameers that were written off got going in. So really fast in the game, the Patriots were going to be in deep trouble if they did not pull off this upset. And that they did. Yeah. Hey, just on the Romeo dobs stuff, what type of routes was he getting the catches on? Cause I think he's been sneaky like really misused as a goal versus like 27% go routes in the first three weeks of the season. So both of his touchdowns, so you have a fade and then a post route. So those were more down field routes. But for the most part, it was more like the quick out variety. It felt a little bit more packers coded there. There was a couple moments from Drake made to Romeo dobs and other players were just like, you know, it's the middle of the field. These aren't going to be in highlight reels. But like just throwing the ball perfectly over zone defenders near the sideline toe drag. So it wasn't just Romeo dobs on that. But there was a lot of awesome moments from Drake made near the sideline there. So yeah, I think kind of encouraging for for

33:11Romeo dobs. I think you know, the fact that Matt Collins, if he if he does miss with his calf injury, that's how we get Romeo dobs to like literally 100% of the snaps. You need like pop doggles these guys. You can only trust them so much. I think that Romeo dobs becomes definitely very interesting as a wide receiver three next week. I'm open to Matt Collins, you in theory situation here. Okay, Hayden, I have to ask because I just dropped Drake made the experts league for CJ Strat, which worked out, you know, just overall for my sanity. But did I make a mistake? Like, Drake may throw us for 269 yards here. Previous high I think in a game was 209 yards. He had two others under 200 yards. So is this real? How many games you need to see for this to be real once again? Because again, it's not like he just opened the season poorly. Yeah, he finished last season in the playoffs miserably. So we almost have a longer stretch in the last seven games of him turned the football over and all that type of stuff, which he stood at here with an interception

34:12and a loss fumble. Then we do him like playing good football as of late. Well, the schedule opens up. So I think that's the first thing you instead of facing the Seahawks dealers in Jaguars. Now you get their Mr. Sketch. Yeah, exactly. Now you got the Raiders jets, bears, dolphins, Packers. We'll see if if Micah Parsons is available. So like one thing we got the schedule going his way. I will say watching the game, the offensive lion is still in trouble. I thought that the right guard replacement was not playing very well. There was like, there's still like kind of you know, scheming around. Will Campbell. There's some moments against Will Campbell that lets some pressure. And then on the bills defense side, there's just like the cornerback play is just not good enough. You know, and I think that's especially true with with Benford and they put Benford in some pretty difficult situations. But when he's not out there, they just don't have like top and corners at the moment. So that's like obviously helpful when you know, Romeo doves and F and Chisholm are winning their one on one. Like at the catch point, that's you know, that to me is like definitely a little bit

35:13damning on the Buffalo bill side of things too. Hey, now I also want to ask on the opposite end. Let's go to the bills. You know, the first two weeks for Donkin Kade were incredible. You know, five receptions, 130 yards, seven receptions, 95 yards. Should we almost view him like the wide receiver two conversation that we had before where it can just be rocky because that's two catches for 38 yards than one catch for seven yards here. What happened with Donkin Kade in this contest? I was listening to Brable after the game and they said one of the big keys was getting rid of Donkin Kade there. But you know, you would hope that when DJ Moore, he leaves like going into half time. It's a setback of the same injury. I guess you just didn't want to get the injection or there's just too risky or whatever it was. But there's some certainty going into next week where like you know, his upside is like just proven too high. Now he's there's definitely a big tear break between the top guys. And you know, like I think George Kiddell has like obviously like surpassed the Donkin Kade range at this point. But like you're still starting him in most situations. I think

36:14he's still like a flex play. If you have him, especially if DJ Moore is not out there. The guy that stepped up was key on Coleman. And I can say just watching the film. There were more real moments this week than there has been in previous key on Coleman blow up games. He had a fantastic play on the sideline. His touchdown was working down the field as well. He looks maybe a step faster. I'd be curious on stats versus film or whenever you guys are watching this game back. If he just looks like a half second, um, faster there. And they also had like a little motion first read explosive underneath as well. So there was like some real stuff that key on Coleman was doing in this one. But unfortunately for the for the bills, you know, uh, Cleo Shakir has a fumble in the two-minute drill like that that gave the Patriots an opportunity that they of course failed on. But there's nothing like really that crazy bad about the bills offense here. It's just one of those games where their defense allows 29. Um, by that James Cook looked good, uh, not having DJ Moore proved to be,

37:16uh, definitely hurtful at the margins. But Shakir got going underneath. He and Coleman had a big game. So I don't really have like anything crazy to say about the bills offense at all. Yeah, I'm really curious about Keon. Uh, 34% snaps in the slot for him here. You know, he's someone that I didn't want to see just kind of tethered at extra seaver even early on in his career. And like Josh Palmer is the sub 10% slot player here, which I think is, you know, perfectly fine for his skill set. But yeah, I'm like, I thought Keon even on the Thursday night game against the lions ran some really nice, just like quick outrouts and made himself a little more open than we're used to seeing. Of course, that's the lion. So this was a little bit better defense here to see. So, even if he's just a nice quality role player for the, and I mean role player complimentary for the bills, that would be a nice development. Uh, hey, and this will be a theme of tonight's episode. But it feels like a bunch of pass catchers or even just running backs that enter games, banged up,

38:16like actually hurt us in face football because they just got more banged up and then didn't finish these contests rather than just giving us zeros. And we know we can just pivot off of them. Yeah. DJ Moore, again, aggravated shoulder injury after just one catch for 11 yards and one carry for six yards. Uh, it is not though considered, quote, a long term issue as of right now. So people will have some like PTSD here of putting DJ Moore in their starting lineups after he again just re aggravates it after a couple touches. That's just what an AC join is, you know, it bothers you. If you land on it and he was on the sideline and he landed on it pretty decent. Um, there was, you know, like some of the Twitter doctors like it's gonna get injection. He'll be back in the third quarter and then he just he just didn't return. So, you know, there's there's different grades of, you know, this collarbone collarbone stuff type of stuff. So hopefully like he didn't actually injure it further, but you know, there's there's risk with all these players that are on the injury before that. So like why we have to knock them down a couple spots and rankings if they aren't practicing in full football weekends. Move fast one minute. You're tracking the early matchups

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40:23C mc 52 yards one touchdown Mike Evans 76 yard zero touchdowns George Kiddell 70 for one. So on paper, it doesn't look like a huge explosion here for the 49ers offense, but they did just enough to win it. Don't forget our boy BBL D. Bo got in there for a season touchdown. I'm going to use that all season. I'll start to show you. Yeah, exactly. Shout out to whoever said that it was perfect. He was looking pretty spry out there too. Was D. Bo Samuel, but yeah, I mean, this game I'll just be honest was so frustrating to watch not just because of the injuries to both teams. Pat Sir Tan injured right before the half non-contact injury. Riley Moss left the game with a rib injury as well. Pat Sir Tan that looked like a pretty serious knee injury, but they called it an ankle injury. By the way, it came on the longest play to date Kyle use check ankle injury to up in style children. I mean, there was just injuries all over the place. And if you didn't catch that, I said Pat Bryant knee injury on the longest play to the point like deep into the second half because these

41:26two offenses were small ball on this thing all day here. Now for Brock Purti and the 49ers, great point Josh, but the sack avoidance. He's consistently keeping drives alive and just like keeping plays alive with his ability to avoid sacks. But really, everything just kind of changed in the late fourth quarter for both of these teams specifically for the Niners. CMC on the drive to push the team to a 17 to six lead. He just kind of took that thing over. Mike Evans had one big catch there, but he just long consistent solid sustaining runs, punched it into the end zone at the very end. The Brock was scoring their next drive. We'll talk about that. And then the final drive for the Niners. Kittle rips off a 56 yard shout out peptides tight and screen catch and run. Let's go just boyded space in the blitz. I just wide open lane there to take it for 56 yards for George Kelly. You would never guess that he towards a kill. He's like seven, eight months ago or whatever.

42:28Yeah. And he led the team in routes. You know, Mike Evans and Debo aren't full-time players right now. George Kittle 60 of 66 snaps almost every single route out there. So Josh, I'm going to kick it over to you. You're the the George Kittle guy from the entire offseason. So like rest of season rankings. Why is you know, there's is it just to ahead of them. It really might be. I mean, truly one of the best picks on the board. And Matt, like you're saying, it's not necessarily the easy stuff over and over and over again. It's these explosives. It's the red zone work. It's all of it. So the more like injuries that are happening around him with wide receivers and then the more older wide receivers that are out there in terms of Evans and Debo Samuel being what max 75% players. And then you have George Kittle also old, but a superhuman and a future Hall of Famer as planned and running the most routes like that. That is incredible stuff. So I'm just glad I drafted so much of him. Great. I really don't think there's anything else to talk about here in the 49ers offense. So Matt, I have to ask you. Are Jay Harvey 10 reception 68 yards?

43:32That's disgusting. This was a sickening offense to watch today with the Denver Broncos. I mean, seriously, before that final drive, which this is kind of what the Broncos have been with Bonax. It's really, really frustrating to watch. And then they kind of come alive in the fourth quarter. But it was outrageous. And so much of this RJ Harvey stuff and credit to him, he made a couple of plays with the ball in his hands. At least one where he actually got them a good chunk of yardage afterwards. He also nearly caught. I mean, they did end up losing the game, but he almost fumbled on the final drive. And luckily the Broncos were able to jump on it. So I don't even know how good of a player. RJ Harvey is, but he is just getting checked down after check down after check down. Bonax has got to let these plays develop a little more. So I think it was asked after the game about Davis Webber's play collar. He said, quote, it's too early to consider. It's a fair question. I appreciate it. It's tough to discuss any of that right now. So I don't really even know, though, if I want to blame Davis Web on this because they cannot run the football against the team

44:36that you absolutely can run the football on. J. K. Dobbins looks like he's taking a step back. The offensive line is a little bit underperforming there. And then it's just so much check down nonsense with Bonax to RJ Harvey. It was like I said, very, very, very, very tough to watch. If I was a Broncos fan, this would be driving me crazy right now. I just looked it up, Matt, on the non screens targets behind the line of scrimmage, his time to throw is at 2.8 seconds, which is like that's so fast for like three seconds is like, I would say at least you got to be given the them time to develop. That's crazy. Matt, can you explain this grant cone tweet to me that we just put on? It just said, Bonax's first name is short for Bosef. I have something here. I am not qualified to do grant cone interpretations. I'm not qualified. I don't know what it means either maybe like Bosef for potentially. Yeah, I mean,

45:38because like he has a couple of that's the thing with two where he let's plays develop. It just usually turns into a moderately useless scramble to for Bonax. There was a couple where it's like get that thing up field and we get a first down here. So he's just a he's a weird quarterback, man. It is Bonax. I will say, Jaylen Waddle, you got away with it here, man. He did score a touch on and it was a really nice play. They motion him out to the Z receiver. He runs an out route. He's open. He catches it and he makes the defender miss and walks into the end zone. Thank God, too, because I was ready to lose my mind with the Waddle stuff because his one target actually down the field, he drops, which I don't know Jaylen Waddle to have like drop issues, but he has had a couple of rough ones to start this year. That was just a catch he absolutely should make. But then he catches everything else that goes his way, but it's again, a lot of the short stuff. And I guarantee you we're going to go back and watch the table. Yeah, there's a lot of explosive play left on the field for Jaylen Waddle, but here we are. At least he gets into the end zone with the touchdown. He does

46:40lead the team in route participation with 82% as well. Yeah, the Waddle stuff, it just is what it is. Now, like we need to kind of recalibrate all of our hype pieces and high podcasts about him this summer, where I thought what they traded for him, all the routes and the styling that they do and off of play action and all that type of stuff would kind of make him at least a consensus YG or two on a weekly basis, but Matt, it's that roller coaster that we're talking about. Some weeks will go for 100 and a touchdown. And then some weeks will go for like two catches for 27 yards. I mean, I think he's still a wide receiver too. Like he's ultimately, I think he said this well week where he's gonna you're not going to have taken a loss that you took him in the fourth round, but the idea that he could maybe be like a big win player at that cost. I don't think that's happening just because I don't think the offense is really functioning at that level. I was hoping that Waddle coming in here would also kind of coincide with a leap for Bonyx and you know, through four weeks, he's deaf. I mean, I don't know how you could not say he's one of the most

47:41frustrating quarterbacks to watching the NFL right now. All right, let's stick in that AFC West because this is a barn bird and the chiefs come out on top 30 to 27 over the loss Vegas Raiders. I had this whole write up about how you know, the chiefs have played in these big close moments and the Raiders haven't like the Raiders were up 1917, 335 to go. The chiefs were facing a third and five. Patch of Rooms connects with Tyke one Thornton on a 55 yard versus zero coverage. Then Ken Walker scores the next play and suing kickoff Raiders fumble. Very next snap. Ken Walker scores on another 21 yard run. So then they lead at 30 to 19. But again, I think it shows that this Raiders team is slightly different in that they showed fight to get back in it and not fight to even almost get into field goal range and possibly even win this game in the end. Like I understand this Raiders defense might not have a ton of talent on it, but they were pressuring and moving

48:45patch mohomes relentlessly. He only finishes with two sacks, but it was not an easy day for him. 15 of 30 for 225 yards and two touchdowns. And then other than you know, a freaking 76 yard run from Kenneth Walker the third, the first three quarters, they did a fantastic job kind of bottling him up as well. But what the chiefs have found are some exposed to place. A 76 yard run, like I said, to Kay Walker, a 55 yarder to Tyke one Thornton, a 42 yarder on an out and up to Tyke one Thornton, which unfortunately on the first one of those he breaks or dislocates his ankle on a hip drop tackle. And he was easily with their wide receiver one. And then a 41 yard shot to Xavier Worthy and isolated one and one coverage before. So hey, we always talked about patch mohomes in the downfield pass and not hitting out previous seasons. It was the best today that I've seen it in a very long time. So unfortunate on the Thornton injury because he was ballin and he's just been their best downfield receiver for, you know, the last sense Tyre kill has left. Like I don't think that's an exaggeration. So he's going to be out for the season. I'm assuming here. And

49:48Rashi Rice left pretty early in that game with with hamstring injury as well. And I'm, you know, he's had a lot of injury lower half injuries. So I'm assuming that's going to be multiple weeks. So Josh, like are we at the point where the chiefs like are going to be making phone calls for for wide receivers? It can't be Xavier Worthy and what Cyrus Allen and Jalen Royals, like that's like the current rotate that is way too small of a room. You can't do Xavier Worthy and Cyrus Allen as your top targets out there. It's like Jerry Judy, Tyre, you kill like what do you think their plan is going to be? Yeah, totally. I mean, it was a seven yard catch in the open field for Rashi Rice. As first of the day, no one touches them instantly grabs his hamstring and goes off to the sideline. And yeah, they said Jalen Royals would come in and replace them. Jalen Royals drew two targets and zero catches on the day. So that shows you where you're at with with Jalen Royals. Yeah. And even like the the Travis Kelsey two catches for 15 yards in the day, it wasn't even close to what we saw before. And so I think teams understand that if you slow him

50:49down, then you slow down this passing attack. But what Hayden, like who's out there is Jerry Judy and his up and down in consistency and like as being there in the right place at the right time, exactly what this passing offense needs. Maybe it is, but I'm a bit skeptical of that too, Matt. Honestly, Jerry Judy is a really difficult player to talk about because he's gone from really overrated to basically everybody hates him now. I think there's still a useful player in there. And he's always been a better man coverage receiver than his own coverage receiver, which is kind of what the chiefs need, right? They need a little bit of a man beater. And if you can have Jerry Judy do what the 2024 Denver Broncos did, I see me, he did a lot of damage against the Broncos in that season with the Browns did. I know it was de james winston's scam, but it's also just hey, we're going to have you run in breaking routes, digs and posts and overs on play action, just plan your no dancing, just plant your foot in the ground and rip it inside. Like Judy can do that. And for a team that is hunting explosive plays off play action, I could talk myself into it,

51:54you know, being useful for Kansas City from a fan from maybe fantasy standpoint. I don't know, but useful for Kansas City for sure for if they trade for Jerry Judy. Matt dare I say that they maybe should get Cyrus Allen a bit more involved like he has been truly down the pecking order. And I'm not saying his preseason was worthy of being a top two water seeper on a team after being late round pecking all that type of stuff, but main and man coverage that is him and he still wasn't very involved here. So maybe a week of practice and we can get that a little bit more. I mean, how many beers have we had boys? That's the thing, you know, for Cyrus Allen. I mean, he lost a ton of time in the off season two. So they did, they've talked about that where he he fell behind a little bit because of that. Let's talk about the Raiders here. In the first three series, there were 22 offensive snaps. And Ash and Jentie had nine snaps and Mike Washington had nine snaps. It really felt like Mike Washington was the, you know, ball carrier. And then Ash and Jentie was the receiving back.

52:58And so that's basically what we got outside of two minutes drill in the first half. Then as soon as we get out of half time, Ash and Jentie has a 7.6 and 28 yard run. He's easily their best back and finishes with all this receiving production and rushing production on the day. Unfortunately, again, hobbled off with an ankle injury. Trainers walked him to the sidelines. So this is four games in a row, like truly four games in a row. He's had some type of an ankle ailment. And hey, what we keep talking about is this is holding him back. And I think that Kubak is going into these games with the idea of, okay, I have to split it up because I have to maybe save some of the juice that he has. But again, that is still leading us to him being in and out in some critical situations. Yeah, first 15 plays, it's Ash and Jentie's seven snaps, Mike Washington six. So, that's a story line. I know it didn't finish that way, like you're saying, but this might be a little bit more hot handy. And you would hope that you know your top 10 pick gets the hot hand

54:00a whole lot more than your fourth rounder. But I do think it's injury related for like the vast majority of it. I do think a lot of it is injury related here. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And then Brock Bowers finishes with the touchdown to make it the 27 points. Was kind of kept quiet for a long period. We did get some cool Brock Bowers man sort of lane reps. Harmon, I know you're going to watch those this week too. And then Michael Mayer is a second leading receiver with eight for for 82. And then Shadow Cody White. I mean Cody White, role player across the league just continues to stack reps, had to win versus man sort of lane that nearly set the team up for for another big score. So yeah, the Raiders are like way more frisky than I was giving them credit. And once again, Kurt Cousins, he finishes with an interception on the last play of the game. But he throws for 365 yards, 52 dropbacks and zero sacks taken. Like Kirk is just spending the pill. Man, you love to see it. Kirk is going out near style here. And it's going to be

55:04a long time, I think, until they even consider benching him because yeah, I love Clint Kubiak at the halftime interview, John. We're going to win this football game. They didn't win this football game. I get it. But yeah, definitely nice to see that for the Raiders. Like they're a real football team. They're definitely a real football team. I wish for Ash and Gentis sake that they're by came earlier than it does, but they don't have a buy until week 13. Because yeah, I think he's a guy that looks like he needs a week off. Yeah, I totally agree with all of that. And the Raiders are just a more complete team than I was expecting four games into this season. All right. The LA Rams, two and two, put it off the Eagles, two and two, as Los Angeles wins 24 to 20 in this game, Hayden. I mean, I think the big storyline is Pukin, Akuma returning for nine catches, 125 yards on 12 targets. How do you look? I think he looked mostly the same. There wasn't like crazy big explosives where you were able to like see him like just, you know, open up to see how exactly fast he was. There were some contested catch moments. He had one against Rikwool and that

56:07he was able to bring down like consistently involved in the offense was playing for most of the snaps on top of that. The one thing that has me just a little bit spooked is Aaron Andrews on the sideline right as the game was getting going. He called the injury a pre-Hernia injury. And then all the Twitter doctors jumped all over that and they said pre-Hernia injury means partial Hernia injury and that it's basically a ticking time bomb. If this happens or not, it probably reminds me of like the Matthew Stafford injury from last year where, you know, if it gets managed, the upside so awesome and you can be the guy that you need didn't fantasy this year. And then also an indifferent simulation. He's hurt next week has Hernia surgery and he's out for more than a month. So the production, how we looked on the film, he had awesome moments in and tough matchup, all that excellent. To me, like the, you know, officially getting pre-Hernia stuff from the team there makes me a little bit spooked. 13 targets for Kiron Williams, Hayden, where these like,

57:13I mean, it looks like from an area on standpoint, these were still a talk about this on the show last week where these are like real downfield targets for Kiron Williams. Is that more of the same this week? Yeah. So Philadelphia's defense is it's similar to Houston right now. They're just over the middle. They're just not the same unit. Zach Bond, Injured, Jalen Carter, just not himself. Jonathan Grenard walks off injured in this one. They just got him on the field two weeks ago. Cooper Dijin, he is limping around for a minute as well. So a lot of the star players on the Eagles defense were not available. And particularly over the middle, Kiron Williams was just given Jihad Campbell, like just the business the entire game. Jihad Campbell first round linebacker, it has not been pretty. And on tape, he was such a good athlete. He made some incredible plays in college. The down to down consistency with him has just been up and down and then Kiron Williams to basically win the game there, run to the left on the outside, breaks a couple tackles,

58:14including to Josiah Trotter, their other linebacker, Jeremiah Trotter, the other linebacker out there. So you know, just some of the complete star level talent is just not like playing that way or available on the Philadelphia Eagles defense, which made like the Rams first half of that game all the more confusing because there were this close to so many big plays. And then the second half of the game that offense was absolutely humbling. And a lot of it was just Pukinacua or Kiron Williams. Yeah, we talked about this on some show last week that the Eagles having to pay so many of their defensive stars and some other players meant they had to let Nicobie Dingo, who's playing really well for the Raiders, Reed Blankenship, and you know, you saw McCuba get picked on as well. So it's just something that they can't have to roll with. Again, I don't want to overlook that. This is unbelievable from Kiron Williams, like 16 carries for 80 yards and then 10 receptions for 67 yards. Like he has fully escaped this. I'm not sure four point game. We get this role

59:17with like Kiron whom they had five carries on the day and one catch. Like this is a total eclipse of exactly what we could have hoped for when drafting. Tyrant. Career high 10 receptions is 84 snaps so that that thing that you keep talking about Josh, where if they're winning, he's most likely scored a touchdown or if they're trailing what they were trailing the entire second half of this game. He doesn't come off the football field and beyond that, it's like, you know, some slot work, but even if it's not like exact slot work, Matt, you'll see like he's the first or second read on a lot of these concepts and it's because they just have a mismatch in all the trust in the world for Kiron Williams to make a quick move and obviously Matthew Stafford trust him. Okay, let's talk about the Eagles here. There's a whole bunch of tweets that I could rattle through. One from Bill Barnwell. Eagles were up by 10 points with a third and goal from the two yard line with eight minutes to go and lost. Another from Ben Solac. Eagles went over 12 on third down against the Rams went over five in the second half last week against the Bears. Their last third down

1:00:18conversion was over 90 minutes of game clocks ago. Then another one from Jake and I won't read this full thing because it has explicit Senate. Jalen Hertz had to make a total of one play in the second half to win this game and couldn't do it. The Rams were that bad. I know the injuries are stacking, but are we effing serious? Is it all that fair? Solac stole all my notes there about the third down stuff. It was brutal and they had a couple key just like unfortunate fourth down plays. It was like fourth and one and a half in it was a failed push. Now that they're on 37 yard line up 10. I like the decision. The problem is when you have a new center and now Cam Jurgens is playing left guard and now you don't have Mekai Bechton at right guard office that has been a couple seasons. The absolute peak of the push versus this version of the push has mattered. There was also plays where I thought Cam Jurgens was getting losing one on one reps as well. Then later in the game, they're at the two yard line fourth down and the first read goes to Don Tevian Wix. That gets turned down because you've got absolutely just like no separation on that play and that fourth down

1:01:23goes incomplete. There was just a lot of plays where it's like third and four. They absolutely need a play from Zach Erts and Zach Erts can't make a play. There was just too much of like you know all the backups just stunk. It kind of comes down to that. Jalen Hertz did not make any plays by himself and to that tweets point there. But there were so many like all the backups did absolutely nothing except Darius Cooper who he must. I forget which deep I remember that Quentin Lake that probably should have been an interception. That goes Darius Cooper's way for a touchdown and then a scrambled drill touchdown for Darius Cooper where he just hits the breaks in the back of the in zone and scores a touchdown. Not that much from Makai Lem and a little curl in the perimeter. Third down slot win versus Kitchens as well. But nothing like too explosive from him. Don Tevian Wix defense of pass interference on Tremac Duffy but nothing too crazy from him. And then the ground game is still so hit and miss. Third and two lost. They were Tom Brady

1:02:28absolutely lost his mind because on third and two they can't run the ball up the middle. They're doing these horizontal runs and Cam Jurgen's got beat on that play. So yeah, Sequan leaves immediately and the backups weren't able to do anything really. Yeah, I hate now I was going to ask you like one to 10 house screwed. Do you think this Eagles offense is but then you said the phrase they needed Zach Hertz to make a play and I feel like that answers the question. By the way, the team has to go overseas and play Jacksonville in England next week. So just with the doctor ordered. Inter is not good enough. Lane Johnson an hour before the game. He is ruled out for personal reasons. They didn't know exactly what that was. I was listening to Brandon Graham with on the wolf's podcast after the game and Brandon Graham was kind of like hinting that like, come on man, you got to be out there. So I don't know what's going on with the Lane Johnson stuff. But he is almost like saying that he had some insight on what's going on there.

1:03:30But yeah, it was the fewest yards in the Sireana Sireani era. It's just one of those games where they're injured. They should have won this game. But like all of the badgups had a moment to make a play and they couldn't do it. And then Jalen Hertz, you know, like this could be a product of your surroundings and the surroundings weren't very good. And he just really didn't do a whole lot with it. Do we need to review them a Kyle imitate or is there anything that popped out at all or was it just a no go from the jump? There was like this is a rookie first round pick. Yes. Yeah, there has not been the explosive play. He had a third down slot when he had a little curl on the perimeter. You know, there was more real route stuff going on here. But what was his biggest play? It was nothing. So like, you know, you're not like watching a third. You're like, wow, there goes that first rounder. You know, like he's has a role in the offense. He's not doing the most with it. He also doesn't look unacceptable either. But you know, like this would be a great game for him to go crazy and he didn't. Can I address the Sequel Barclay stuff? Yeah,

1:04:34just real quick. Since, you know, people who watch the channel probably drafted Ken Walker the third in the second round, but then they drafted Sequel Barclay in the first round. So I think we can see from who the equals are after four weeks that it certainly wasn't going to hit the highs that I was hoping for for Sequel Barclay even if he's doubt healthy this year. But I will also add that I think this is just an agree justly bad run out for Sequel. Like in week two, he gets sideline on the first carry because of a stinger. He missed the goal line touchdown from there. In week three, he rushes for 73 yards in the first half and the defense gets steamrolled so he gets phased out of the game. And then week four after three touches, his hamstring explodes. So like this just really sucks for a guy who needed good blocking. And then when he got good blocking, he showed explosives. And yet it's like the worst possible injuries to all of you because in two of the four weeks, he's gotten injured after one or three touches. And that is even worse for your face lineups than playing them. So hey, it just sucks overall. Yes, always worse when they get hurt.

1:05:34You'd rather get to zero when you have somebody else and you're starting line up when they're leaving games early, but that's fantasy. And this seems like it might be a multi week thing here. Yes, Harmon just because the hamstring and how he looked immediately and all that type of stuff. Okay, let's move on because we got to talk about the LA chargers. I mean, they put up 23 points. That's a moral victory. Is it not? Nope. They're O and four. As Seattle improves to three and one with 30 points of their own. Matt, Emmanuel Wilson, a big pickup on Wafers and immediate start. How do you look? Because I see 81 yards in the ground in the score. And then also, I mean, 39 yards in the air and another score. Dude, I thought Emmanuel Wilson looked really good in this game. I think when we go back to watch the tape and like look at the coverage numbers and stuff, we're going to see a lot of like quarters, cloud, too high stuff for the charges here because it certainly felt like he got a lot of light boxes. But how often have we watched the C-OX run game

1:06:36the last two years, not be able to take advantage of these light boxes consistently? So he was just ripping through some of these runs, broke a lot of tackles, 120 yards from Scrimmage for Emmanuel Wilson. Like I said, I thought he 3.5 yards after contact per rush. He made the most I wasn't just like, Oh, he got lanes and that was that and he plotted his way to all this production. I thought he legitimately looked really good. The C-OX offensive line, I did think gave him some good rushing room. But overall, like he was the man, 75% of the touches in the backfield went his way. This was not like a George Hullani change of pace or a situation. It was Emmanuel Wilson. And like it certainly has felt like they needed a guy of this skill set for this team to just have more of a st a sustaining tempo type runner in the mix. You know, Jackson Smith and Jigba, you get 76 yards here. Like I said, I feel like we're going to go back and watch this one in C-OX. A down game. Yeah, down game. Oh, boohoo. Right. That's a down game for a real wide receiver one.

1:07:40But yeah, I think when we go back to watch this, we're going to see because it felt like this went on the broadcast that they were doing a lot of like cloud and stuff to take away the explosive plays of JSN. But Emmanuel Wilson made the most made the most of that. So Emmanuel Wilson's got this like little sweet spot where Gidearing Price is now out for at least four games. I saw pictures of Zack Sharman. I know he's practicing, but one leg is twice as big as their leg. So like, I think we're still, you know, a little bit of ways away. And that's totally fine. That's what he should be. But it's him versus Joe Mixon. Matt, did you see that report that Joe Mixon was visiting the C-OX before the game? If you were advising Joe Mixon, are you telling him to look elsewhere? Yeah, look elsewhere, buddy. They don't need Joe Mixon. Green Bay? Yeah. Check out Green Bay. See what they got going on here? Yeah, I thought Emmanuel Wilson looked good enough in this game to keep it going here. I will say this is a weird game. Shock. I mean, these are two kind of teams that are used to playing in weird games. It started off with back-to-back interceptions, Justin Herbert on the first play of the game through, I mean, if you want to do Justin Herbert,

1:08:44horrible defense, like you can do it, but he is not making your job easy because he threw two of just the dumbest interceptions you could possibly throw, which was somehow dumber than the interception he threw last week against Buffalo, which you absolutely cannot throw that. He threw one on the first play of the game and throws another one later. And then Sam Darden gave it right back with interception on the second play of the game. So, you know, just all zeros out there for the interceptions, at least to start. Matt, how did Rashid Shaheed score his Russian score? He was running back to on this team. He was in the back field. They lined him up there, gave him a design play. So, that was pretty cool to see. They also got Tory Horton on a quick slant route at the goal line too, which I love to see. I think Tory Horton is a really talented player. He just hasn't been able to stay healthy, but they certainly need some guys like Shaheed Horton to emerge here. But yeah, it was a nice little design play for Rashid Shaheed in the back field. That was good to see. So, probably not going to happen consistently as a receiver, but if you had to start for whatever reason, you got away with one there. Okay, let's talk Chargers Backfield and Chargers Offense. Okay.

1:09:49Amar and Hampton, nine carries 45 yards in a touchdown. Keaton Mitchell, 10 carries 39 yards. Come on, if you'd all five carries 25 yards. Jim Harball was asked after the game if this is how he envisions his back field. And he said, we think it's best for our team. Was it best for their team? Yeah, Keaton Mitchell, like the stats are not going to blow you away or anything, but he did give them a spark in the second half. And it's as Michael Floreo said there, it's a nightmare for fantasy, for sure, because there's no reason for Keaton Mitchell for them to go away from him. Again, I said this during the game when it looked like it was going to be a disaster game for the Chargers, they actually did end up making it competitive, which you know, kind of want to come back to that at some point, but like, Kamani Vidal, being the guy who punches in, I think the first touchdown of the day here for the Chargers was, was, that's got to be pretty gross. And that was the one receiving touchdown here. But yeah, like all of these guys have a role. Amar and Hampton does end up sneaking into the end zone on a goal line carry or a red zone carry late in the game.

1:10:53So he does, he's not a total zero, but this is something Boone and I talked about on the forecast this week where, you know, I know it's like, it's obviously just all downhill for Hampton. It can get worse and it can continue to go down. He doesn't score that touchdown. He's a complete dud in fantasy. And that's kind of where you're relying on him at this point. So I know you're selling low and people were giving Boone a bunch of crap about that. It's like, yeah, you're selling low, because this thing can go lower. And I think it is going lower here as Harbaugh said. It was good for the team, especially like I mentioned Keaton Mitchell giving them a little spark there. But just the fact that this run game is what it is is a big problem. Like Justin Herbert was their most useful Russia today on some scram. Yeah, three of 17 snaps from Amar and Hampton on late downs as well, that's just going to Kamani Vidal and then Keaton Mitchell is getting the designed first red target type of stuff in the backfield. It looks like. What's the latest on Lad Maconky? It was a foot injury. It was like limited and DNP then limited in practice. Didn't know what to do with my rankings. I didn't feel good about it. And then it was the same foot injury for Lad Maconky.

1:11:57So you know, Chargers injuries, but it seems like there was a couple of them here. Yeah, Chargers injuries. Joe Alt left this game as well. They had a backup left tackle and they're the backup left tackle. God is butt kicked by a Chenineu Osu for the Strip Sack at the end of the game where I mean, the Chargers had this game pretty close. Like they kicked the fuel goal while they were driving with two minutes and 17 seconds left to get within 23 to 30. They were able to get Seattle off the field. So they had a chance at a final drive. But again, it's like all too familiar for Justin Herbert where again, he is 1,000% part of the problem in making just some really, really stupid mistakes. But they can't block anybody. Joe Alt gets hurt in this game. That was a huge problem. The left tackle gets his butt kicked. Like I said, Strip Sack there. Lad Makonky 23 snaps. No production. It just like we've had one half a football with a healthy Lad Makonky for this season. And without him, they're they're banged. He's wide to see for sake one. Yes, they're yes. There is like everything about the process with taking Lad Makonky at

1:13:01that point, even if this Chargers offense has not been good. Like that's part of the problem is that they don't have Lad Makonky in the drop off after him is just is so, so extreme. Like Trey Harris had three catches for 60 yards and continues to be a guy that I would like to see more of. He actually did run the most routes on the team of 37 routes. Quentin Johnson was 32 and he had one catch for 44 yards, which was actually pretty, pretty cool catch there for Johnson. But it ultimately, this team does not have nearly enough without Lad Makonky. Looking at Twitter, Ration Slater also in a walking boot and crutches with an ankle injury. Like crutches too. Like I mean, you know, beyond Justin Herbert, all of their best players are injured. Yeah, here we are. And I mean, yeah, Joe, Joe Alt left for a period of time, obviously. Yeah, I mean, Matt, I would be in on Trey Harris. I would talk about him in the waivers. And maybe I should just like at some point put the injuries or excuse me, the schedule to the side and not worry about that when we're talking about a potential top two wide receiver here. But again, I just look at it and it's the Broncos, the Chiefs, the Rams, the Texans and the Ravens over the

1:14:04next five games. And like, should I even advise people on Trey Harris? Like I wanted to play more. Yeah. But then that might lead them to actually playing him in their lineups. Yeah, I mean, that's like in their hands, you know, go with God on that one if you're going to put him in your lineups, but it's he's at least that, like I said, a talented player that's that's looking pretty good and should I don't know if he's going to help this team. I think this team is screwed. Like there's also the thing about the chargers that's so annoying. One of the many things is in addition to the fact that they have all of these problems, they make some of the dumbest mistakes at the worst possible time to like I can't remember who the defender was. But like late hit with Sam Darrell going like clearly giving himself up and drawing a personal foul and you know, keeping the drive alive with under like two three minutes left to go in the game when you're trying to get this ball back for your team is this crazy. And this is supposed to be a gym harbohal team like they're they're dumb on off at their dumber all over the field and they

1:15:05can't do anything right on offense. This is just so not what we bargained for with this team. And just quickly with Jesse Menor gone from this defense, they've allowed 26, 26, 24 and 30 points over the first four games. Now obviously some of it the offense is putting them at a disadvantage because they can't sustain drives and they're turning the football over and all this type of stuff. But that's a big shift for where the chargers I felt were yeah defensively last season. Well, it's like I said, I think today when we go back and watch the tape and look at the coverage numbers, they clearly sold out to stop the vertical pass game with Sam Darrell and JSN. It was great. Well, then Emanuel also runs it down your throat all game. So it's just one of those things where cool you can sell it to stop one thing, which you didn't even I mean still JSN had a perfectly fine game. So yeah, it's just they're they're not good on either side of the ball. They're they're one of the worst teams in league. Okay, let's hope that Chicago Bears because they're three and one and two and no with backup quarterbacks and different backup quarterbacks. So for the last two weeks, as they beat the New York Jets 23 to 12, the Bears earned 34 first downs in this game. The Jets had 32 overall place.

1:16:14The time of possession was 42 minutes to 17 minutes outside of one 58 or touchdown catch by Isaiah Williams. The Jets truly got overwhelmed from start to finish like the Jets even got their first interception in 643 days and it did not matter. So let's spend the entire conversation on the Chicago Bears instead. Kamenangai handled 30 carries. Kamenangai 30 carries because Deontary Swift fumbled in the third quarter and basically a one score game and didn't touch the ball again after that. In fact, Roshan Johnson was getting carries inside the five and 10. So yeah, Ben Johnson definitely punishes you if you fumble. And Manangai was awesome. 146 yards on the ground, two touchdowns. Meanwhile, Deontary Swift was stuffed twice at the goal line. In fact, both were called touchdowns on the field and then both were reversed in the booth afterwards. Meanwhile again, Manangai scored twice. And then I want to bring up Tyson Beijing. Okay, very solid. Number one thing with him. I think he has some ability to his game,

1:17:15lofted touch on his throws and he was really following through with all the play calls that Ben Johnson was putting out there. That led us to, you know, Roma Dunze for six for 94 in in break for 37 yards and set up a field goal before half time. Other outbreakers too. Luther Burton, five touches for 74 yards and then even Colston Loveland. Colston Loveland, six catches for 57, including a few in the red zone that just didn't convert into scores. And maybe most importantly, Clee Freeman, just two catches for six yards. So I think the passing game could have pressed even more if they were pressed, but they weren't. They just played ball, you know, control, long drives, and that's all they needed to do. Yeah. This is like what we what we thought we were getting with the Bears passing distribution at least, right? Like Adunze is on the field for every single snap. Nice to see him have 94 yards after social media told me his career was over last week. So that's good to see 94 yards for him leads the team at nine targets for Colston Loveland, Luther Burton,

1:18:16made some plays too. So Josh, like I'll be back to base expectations with this Bears passing game or still too early to say. No, I think we are like Tyson Beijing had an interception. He, I think it another one called back to, but he was quite solid. I kind of agree with Bears brass in that he's one of the 32 best quarterbacks in the NFL potentially, like maybe around backup quarterbacks, maybe like just behind Marcus Mario to if we're ranking them on the fly. But it's like the Packers defense and the Falcon's defense of these next two. So these are total games that if like Ben Johnson had again had to push and throw the ball more to me, they could have just been extremely effective doing that all day, but instead they just were able to gash this jet steep and supply and over and over and over again. How is the Colston Loveland usage specifically? He's been the one that I'm struggling with. There's so many tight ends kind of right right around him that how encouraging was the nine targets. If I had to read it just with my eyeballs live,

1:19:22a lot of it was zero to five yards and there weren't these huge crossing routes. Nine, 12 yards on the field that would transform him from being the gimme's in the passing game to explosives in the passing game. Again, he did have two or three targets in the red zone. One of those went down to the five yard line or even tighter than that, but it didn't it wasn't anything that wowed me. Unfortunately, but at least he was involved. Like maybe I'm not going to say this the baseline every single week, but he at least was more involved than he has been in the past. Unfortunately, on the opposite end with the jets, we all played and picked up. Kid in Cedique. He had four targets and zero receptions. He did have an early screen called towards him. It was tipped at the line of scrimmage and he couldn't haul it in. This is just goose eggs across the board, but it really is because this offense like literally could knock anything going. Gina was eight of 15 for 119 yards with 58 of that coming on one play. And Braylon Allen was the only player in the backfield to get a touch, but that

1:20:23only equal 16 touches for 67 yards. I think Devon Bush got out there and said that this was the easiest game I've ever played in. I'm not so hard on. And that kind of settles it. Devon Bush too. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. I'm seeing 12 routes for Kenyne Cedique. You're not guess what? You're not getting a tight-end one performance off the waiver wire if the guy runs 12 routes. He was also like banged up late in the week in practice too. I don't know if that anything to do with it. But yeah. No, I mean, they literally only read 32 plays, Matt. That's why 12. What are you going to do? Josh, what are you going to do? I'm looking at Stadhead. That was the fourth fewest amount of plays in a game ever in their database. The 1999 branch did it. Raiders last year at 30 plays. The Saints did it in 1980. And then it would be them. We got games going back to the 1960s on Stadhead. So fourth fewest. We were watching.

1:21:23Devon Bush was not lying to us. That was the truth. No. No. I'll say this. People shit on the Bears' defense because Bryshung torched them in the first game. Ever since then, they've given up 9, 7, and 12 points. Dennis Allen has this defense cooking. And they need some pieces and their entire secondary's hurt. But they play with their hair on fire. And they're doing a very, very, very, very good job here. Yeah. I mean, for Bears fans that just get ready, you're totally getting some weird midseason trade from Ryan Poles to get you like a secondary, you know, maybe given up too much. Hopefully goes better for them than the sauce garden trade did. I also wanted to shout out Ben Johnson definitely is he's got a few burner accounts. Did you guys see that he only trotted Case Keen amount for the first game because it had leaked the first play of the game because Tyson Baygeon, it leaked that he was going to be the starter. Some people with theorized like, already was keeping it coy because he has so much respect for Aaron Glannon. Apparently, no, he was just being, he was being petty, which I think I like. I think I like that. Yeah.

1:22:28Both quarterbacks were in for the first snap, but Case Keen took the under center snap. So I guess that just allows him to say, well, you guys are wrong. I actually started case. What is his deal? He's crazy. He's crazy. He's crazy. He has Aaron Glinn's number. Like former co-workers and one guy is thriving and the other guy is quite not. Geno Smith left with a hand injury. He played through it, but it is his right hand. So that's something to keep in mind because I actually think Geno Smith has played pretty good football so far this season. All right, we have four games to go, but we didn't get complete eyeballs in all of them. So let's quickly go through the Sunday morning game that everyone was watching over in Tottenham Hot Spurs stadium. More scoring in that stadium than ever in the Roberto or Deserbira. Colts 30, Commanders 13. I mean, Hayden and my fair to say, like, the Colts don't move me here with 30 points, especially going up against a seventh round working quarterback.

1:23:29And then also down Terry McClaurin and company. So it's John Lentay there with two touchdowns and Daniel Jones with one rushing score. And that's all we get. Yeah, I mean, the receiving numbers are very lackluster for the Colts here. The people listening to the show watch this game more than me because I was, you know, we were alive. So I didn't get any eyes on this one. But, you know, to me, like, the Josh Downs was the storyline on the Colts side of things because, you know, once we got Keenan Allen ruled out, it was a competition of who can rank Josh Downs the highest in the industry. And that's always a luck and go wrong situation. I don't know exactly what happened there, but the 16 scoreless is certainly a rug pull. Yeah. I saw a decent bit of this game because I watched it before we started on the starts to sit show and then you guys obviously wrapped up the last hour and a half of it. I will say, like, to your point, Josh, I mean, this does not move me at all from an enapolis standpoint. I think you could make an argument that context adjusted. They were not, they were the worst team between the two. Like the commanders, Marcus Mario to leaves the game and, um, eighth, eighth in Caliac Manus starts

1:24:36the rest of the way for this team, which I had to text Nate Tyce. I was like, who TF is this guy? Because I had not, I was not familiar with his work. Uh, seventh round rookie to his credit, though, he was bombing this thing over the head of SawSgarder, pretty consistently speaking of bad mid-season trades. That, that quietly might be one of the worst, as all trades in recent history. I know, I know there's obviously some big quarterback ones that we can point at, but that has been a disaster for Indianapolis, especially because like Chris Baller made it when he was really feeling himself. It's a disaster, but Trail and Birx got him for one. Deami Brown got him for one. So, so credit to Caliac Manus, he was ripping that thing down field to the defense wasn't good. And then offensively, Daniel Jones was just like a mess at the start of this game. Like there were a couple of screens set up for Josh Downs that like the offensive line maybe blew the play up, but Daniel Jones also fumbled off one where I don't know what the hell he was thinking. Like Daniel Jones has not been good to start this season and you're looking at like four or five yards per attempt. Four point two, excuse me,

1:25:38yards per attempt for Daniel Jones, Jonathan Taylor, four point eight yards per carry. So, yeah, it was definitely a bummer to see this for Josh Downs, but credit to the commander's defense, that when they can blitz you, that mean that's what they need. They got to get home with the blitz because the secondary is rough, but I think this was a really discouraging offensive performance for the colds passing game. 100% and kind of a reset here for the commanders moving forward with Jayden Daniels coming back and he was already named the starter one second after this game was over. No point five. One second after after it was over. Okay, next, where should we go? I actually watched a fair bit of the Miami Dolphins and the Minnesota Vikings. God bless. Let's talk through that one. Okay, Vikings 15, Dolphins 10. I love this show talking about Will Rikard. I mean, all five Eagles, he nailed them. And in fact, maybe you could have had a last second one, but the Vikings just ran out the clock. We are through four weeks of the NFL season and I can't tell you if Calamari is comfortable throwing the football and a Kevin O'Connell offense, but that might not

1:26:42matter that much because one, they're four no and two, he was able to hit T.J. Hockinson here against an horrible Dolphins secondary for 13 catches and 119 yards. That was all of our Jordan Addison points went to T.J. Hockinson. And then yeah, Aaron Jones, just another game of 24 touches here, Matt. The guy's going to need an ice bath for seven straight days, I think. Yeah, for real. I saw Jordan Mason on the sideline talking with him and like, yeah, get ready, Jordan Mason. You're going to get a lot of work as soon as you possibly can. Yeah, 13 targets, 13 catches for T.J. Hockinson. Was he basically just playing the part of Tremick bride for Kyler Murray in this game because every time I, and he by the way, he could have walked into the end zone for a touchdown and then he just knelt it. You know, it's somebody that started Kyler Murray in our fantasy league. My feelings were hurt by that for sure. But yeah, if T.J. Hockinson going crazy against what might be the worst past defense I've ever seen. Four and no, and we have no clue about the

1:27:44offense. I guess it's one of the biggest mysteries. I mean, like that's like it's, I don't even know how to like recalibrate this. And what makes it so fascinating is the rest of the division's offenses are going to be hanging out 30 burgers the entire season. So like, therefore, I know that they got Brian Flores, but like at some point we got more than 15 points to get the dolphins. I hear you. Speaking of the dolphins, you know, the fantasy football group think myself included. Yeah. Said Ali Gordon is splitting the nine and a half fantasy points in half of Devon H&W with Jalen Wright. Ali Gordon had two explosives in this game and that equaled, you know, 90% of his work. He had a 53 yarder, which was kind of a run to the left side between the guard and the tackle. And then guess what? His what 25 yard touchdown run was almost an identical play. So, I mean, good for him. It's, it's, you know, only 11 touches, but he showed, I think some explosive ability that the dolphins have been lacking all season long. And then I did want to bring up one explosive that didn't get there. It was a, I think like 68 yard touchdown to Chris Bell who

1:28:48truly finishes with three zeros that Malik will as buys 10 seconds of time. And dumps it to Chris Bell who breaks tackles and runs through everyone and everything of the sort. And yet he steps out just before he catches the football. So it's, it's illegal touching and that play is drawn back. So it's one of those truly awesome plays that never existed in the box score. I got to say shout out to Oli Gordon for shoving it down our throats here because I think the process was right. Like it's not happening for Devon H&N. How's it going to happen for Oli Gordon? But fantasy football is weird. Man, the NFL is an unpredictable sport. So I think Oli Gordon's like a solid back. It wasn't anything a shade to Oli Gordon. But yeah, nine carries for 100 yards in the touchdown. Malik Washington still got there with the five for five on the scam, though. So there is that. Yeah, we love a good scheme. And that is Malik Washington who also had two backfield carries. So we were correct in all of that conversation. Quickly, Baltimore Ravens 24,

1:29:51Tennessee Titans 18, biggest news. The March Jackson exits with an ankle injury is seen in a walking boot afterwards. Believe they say it is, you know, just to be safe. But hopefully that's the case. Zay flowers is just the frickin man. And this is a red zone touchdown that is scored to exactly what we had hoped for in terms of a 19 yard touchdown eight for one 18 and a score. I'm just going to kick this right over to Matt Matt. This was your bold prediction like heading into the season was this crazy. Zay flowers break out. So what's changed to you? Yeah, I think Declan Doyle just moving him all over the place. Like you're seeing this on the route chart here. And some of it obviously is like behind the line of scrimmage all that. But all of these in cuts where Lamar is consistently throwing him the football too. This is what this was a big part of the theory in addition to I think Zay flowers has leveled up. You know, he's somebody that every year has gotten a little bit better, particularly like his ability to win a one-on-one isolated situations. But this offense wants to live over the middle of the field.

1:30:56Zay flowers is unbelievably fast separating over the middle of the field and making plays with the ball in his hands. And Lamar, his best stuff has come throwing on these routes over the middle. Like he's remember at the start of his career, it's like can he throw outside the numbers? Well, who cares when you could just throw to Zay flowers over and over again. So leveled up player, perfect situation for him. Can we just get these two guys like on the field together for an entire game? Because that has not happened yet. Really. In terms of Zay flowers, Lamar full time. Yeah, he's he's like an easy top 10, you know, easy conservative top 10 receiver rest of season. And hey, now I want to watch this game because statistically it looks like the best connection that Kim Ward and Colonel Tate have had. I mean 222 yards here for Kim Ward and then Colonel Tate nine for 145 on 12 targets. So excited to watch that one. Yep, totally agree. Okay, I'm still rifling through here to find games that we did not cover for their

1:31:58team. Jamers, Jardinels, they're any oh my gosh, how could I forget? How could you? James Winston revitalized the James Sons after just one week, 18 of 29, 250, three scores, two INTs, four Sacks. Matt, we talked about it for the entire week that James has no arm anymore. He's not thrown it down the field. And then here week four happens and he's doing all those things again. He's doing all those things again. So, you know, we did discuss this on stats versus film two about how much of it was the weather, how much of it was James and his dead arm and being a content creator all summer. You know, hey, this was definitely a step in the right direction. I'm not totally sure that the Cardinals defense is the best test in the entire world. But, yeah, this was the full James experience. And Jacober said, doing the other thing on the same thing on the other side. I mean, we got what five touchdowns and five picks combined between these two guys. The last one was brutal for Berset and the Cardinals as well. A 98 yard interception

1:33:03return for a touchdown when Michael Wilson loses the press man slant rep and Berset still just throws it right to Deonte banks anyways. So, yeah, this was two kind of like two James's Spider-Man Meaming between Berset and Winston here. I was looking at the Malik neighbors highlights real quick. His big plays down the field. Those those were absolute lollipops from J. Berset. I would not say like the arm concern things are like, you know, completely back. Those are balloons going to the neighbors who apparently like kind of like fell on a shoulder again was, you know, looking at it for a second stuff. That's that's just going to be kind of frustrating. But, you know, we're talking about like one of the best athletes in the world. Like if someone's going to get better and play through injuries as the season progresses, it's probably somebody like him. Well, in the fact that the giant sleeve winning is good to do because I'm still worried that at some point he's going to land on that shoulder and decide like, you know what, it's it's enough already for me this season. But the fact that they're three and one that that helps him stay out there. Yep, that is an excellent point. Three and one for this giant team is

1:34:08kind of outstanding now. Their last two wins have been the Titans and the Cardinals. But they do get the commanders next. I'll be the commander's defense is blitzing from Dronter Jones almost at Brian Flores like levels. So I think that's pretty notable here. And on top of that, I guess, hey, I want to send it to you. Like I did a review of the 14 players that I'm begging my fantasy season on. I put Malik neighbors as an X. Can I immediately change that to a check mark after this week for? Can I just go with another emoji? I'm kind of in between the Malik neighbors. I feel like the fourth round Malik neighbors that we were getting like we're a pretty good shape there. But there's been some awesome wider receivers like Zay flowers was in that range. So you know, but at the same time, like you're drafting next to Travis H. Ann and when what not. So I think he's holding the line. You're drafting him not for October and September. You're drafting for December. And we might be able to get there. Okay, let's talk Cardinals. I know

1:35:10we need to review this game and we'll talk about a lot in stats versus film. But like you said, Jacobi three INTs to touchdowns. I think maybe the bigger conversation is Jeremiah love. So he handled 26 touches last week. Here he gets 14 for 63 and then just one reception that went for negative eight yards. Meanwhile, Tyler out here eight carries 42 yards and a touchdown. They were asking Jeremiah love about like the differences in the snap counts game on game. And he's had some interesting answers to the point that he was saying, this is going to be the most difficult season of my life. I kind of need to prep myself and like space out these touches as the season goes along. So hey, maybe it's not as much wheels up bell cow as we thought. Yeah, that's, you know, that is definitely a little bit concerning. I still haven't loved what I've seen from Tyler Alger. I obviously haven't watched this game. So yeah, if this is kind of the floor though, where we're getting, you know, 15 touches and you know, the offense isn't completely bottomed out. And I was like, the, you know, like this team heading into the season was projected for 17 points of

1:36:13game. Like there are nowhere near that right. And they scored 26 seven against the sea hawks. And then it's 30 and 24 points. So, you know, versus expectations of, like as a team, I feel like they're clearing that. So even if he's not like a true, true bell cow, I think that he can pay off around three. He thoughts Matt. Yeah, I, that quote where he said is going to be the longest year of my life definitely stood out to me. You know, because yeah, what week four? Yeah, it's not, it sounded very similar to something McCaffrey said last year where he said it was going to be the hardest year of his life because he was taking a bunch of work. So yeah, it just makes me think like, why are we banging Jeremiah Love into the wall for a team that's, you know, going nowhere when he, they hope he has a long productive future. So definitely don't love that for fantasy managers. I do love 30 targets for Michael Wilson. The last two week combined 92 yards per game 52% of the air yards. It's disgusting stuff with Tramick Bride. I mean, it is pretty shameful. What

1:37:16Preset is doing, he just just gets rid of that ball as fast as he possibly can. Marv got a touchdown early in this game. So good, good for him. That was, that was good to see. You know, he threw up the little quiet. That was more catch today. Yes, correct. Yeah, this is all sort of how he can't. He may or may not be on the trade block. We'll see, but yeah, Michael Wilson is the man 30 targets in the two games combined. It was awesome. Okay, gentlemen, we've done it. We'll cover those more in depth that we missed, especially Malik Napier, so now that's a fascinating conversation for all of you. This has been an amazing week four that leads us into week five coming up. Thank you all for watching. Thank you for the feedback. And thank you for leaving thumbs up and subscribing to the channel. I mean, the fact that people watch this for like 35 or 40 minutes each week instead of, you know, watching an HBO show or anything else is pretty outrageous. So go and subscribe to Matt's channel, the Fancy

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