Episode 653: You're Not Going To Get The Point

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1:00Hello again everybody and welcome to another true fact episode of the Jim Cornest Experience Where today we have big announcements big arguments big TV shows big messes of matches and big fat wrestlers All that and more on today's big show and joining me for all that and even more Oh I and Brian the podcasting line the king of the arcading Vanguard podcast network Mr. Co host to you He's not just great big big great broad last everybody Hello, Jim I'll place you to be here once again jump over your fucking organ to get here I was jumping over you I wasn't sure exactly what you were saying and I was trying to hear you I was just a moment and then I jumped well then there was a clump after you've stopped playing the organ and we heard clump like you had to leap over it to return to your seat You know the clump is part of my it's actually the dance that's been developed for my sound but everyone's doing the clump

2:00It's a pleasure to be here once again Jim I understand we're gonna have a good show Christ Well you and then you understand wrong there son I'm gonna straighten you out I hope that nobody thinks I'm gonna take any of this seriously today but no right before we went on the air I surprised you with something and then you tickled me with something but you did not know A feather oh go ahead No yeah that's what you It's an old Norman Frederick Charles thing he would say under his breath When the waitress was leaving the table well I can't say that word that they say often the United Kingdom But it's it's spelled C-U-N-T You would say Tickle your C-U-N-T with a feather and she'd turn what? Typical country weather we're having But nevertheless you did not know Brian last I've just in for you were today years old as the kids say When I informed you that the inspiration for the angle and smokey mountain wrestling were Tammy Fitch

3:06And a dirty whaer than primetime Brian Lee took control of Ron Wright who was the dirty white boys manager And this is what caused both of them dirty white boy and Ron Wright to become baby faces The inspiration for that angle was the Aaron Fleming and Groucho Marx relationship where Groucho was in his 80s And this young crazy literally mentally ill fucking want to be starlit like 50 years younger and he was who often took her clothes off at public functions He came into his life and was causing all kinds of controversy and problems and the sun was concerned and all that type of thing And he was being over medicated and that's what Tammy was over medicating Ron Wright and he'd come out in his wheelchair And he's I remember when me and Donnie were the Tennessee tag team champions

4:10And dirty white boy was flummoxed and couldn't do anything about it because she had tickled him up under his chin Poor old brother Ron and swayed his heart and boy howdy when that finally blew up and then Ron was a baby face When we brought him back and he we advertised he was going to walk to the ring because he'd been in the wheelchair for two years Right and they came to see Ron Wright walk to the ring I know he was at the night of legends, but you didn't think about bringing in Don Wright to do something or maybe Zepo Right to do something No No, Don actually did a couple of things for us up in Johnson City when Ron wasn't available I think he was involved in a flag match with Horner against the fucking white boy or something like that And Don came out and was in the corner of whatever the case Don was around a couple of times

5:11But we had put the focus because even This seemed Don was part of the Wright brothers and that was big until the Ron Fuller southeastern days but Don really didn't work much after that so it had been a long long time And everybody still remembered the Wright brothers but it wasn't like I needed to have two Elderly legends when Ron was the the the promo of the piece And then he invented a younger brother rough house right You know I actually just got a really cool book called marks advertising it's gigantic It's like reprints of all the original newspaper advertising and posters for all the marks brothers stuff It's really really cool Oh I thought you meant marks like these are marks in their advertising No, no, I don't like it. Please come take my money

6:11I've got a tell you that's what mark when I have a lot of money I'd like somebody to swindle me out of that would be a mark advertising Speaking of people who have been swindled I bet I've got a show for you Brian and all the people out there and it says nothing to do with wrestling Completely I've absolutely nothing to do with wrestling but I found it accidentally found out that it existed when I was going to the Netflix for a Raw the other day and I said what the fuck and I do you know the story well I don't know how to I don't want to spoil anything for anybody because I'm encouraging everybody have you seen the Netflix series will limited series Don't pick up the phone I have not no Okay, it sounds like a 70 slash or movie but the series is on Netflix. It's a documentary series. There's three parts to it

7:13I think they're 45 minutes or whatever And it's called don't pick up the phone and there was a incident here in the Louisville area 20 years ago that I remember seeing on the news at the time Down in Mount Washington. That's not really a suburb of Louisville. It's a small town over cross in the bullet county line right it's a small town near Louisville maybe 5-10,000 people I can't imagine maybe that may And it to McDonald's one day this is like over a little over 20 years ago They get a phone call The manager is called to the phone and it's the cops on the phone and They're telling the manager well we've had a complaint that one of your employees stole some money or a wallet or whatever it was from one of the customers in there and do you have a petite dark-haired girl or whatever. Oh, yes, it's a

8:16Gladness whatever they were. Yes, she's working here now Well, this is serious. We can handle this one or two way we can come down there and arrest her It sounds like a fucking Wrestling a promo we can come down there and you know We can come down there and arrest her and you know in full view of the customers and everything and blah blah blah or you can call her back there and we can you can interrogate her and Search her or whatever see if she's got to oh, yeah, I'll just I'll bring her back here, right that type of thing So they bring it and this girl's like 17 years old she's a minor. I'm pretty sure this one was I'll take more on this in a moment But she's just a teenage fucking McDonald's employee, right? And this manager she is of like a 50 year old woman that lives there in Mount Washington and I Can't imagine that these people don't know each other all well. It's a small town

9:18So anyway, they got to fucking guy that's identified himself Mount Washington or Bullet County Sheriff's Department of whatever and They start telling the manager well, you're gonna go ahead and search her well as goes there a person They're jacket and they're well to take and it starts having her take her clothes off and And ends up strip searching her completely naked And and this is taking time they're on this phone for a while, right? and Then the the guy on the phone of the cop Has her doing a variety of okay, well now make her do jump and jack see if anything falls out What and she's doing everybody's cooperating So then the manager is like it's getting to be rush time what the fuck I you know I got to run this restaurant and we go Do you know someone that you can trust to come and keep an eye on this woman because we're short staffed or whatever this

10:19Apparently they said this was so This guy was so matter of fact and so official and so plausible and however he delivered this That they're there they're hooked they're on the line here Don't the manager calls her boyfriend Who some 50 year old redneck guy from fucking Hardensburg or something, right? To come in and here's this teenage girl naked covered up with a McDonald's apron And the manager goes off to manage the McDonald's and the guy is on the phone with the cop and by the time the cop gets fished with this guy The guy is spanked this girl while naked and then had her give him a blowjob in the name of the law Jesus And and and and I'm sure that he had to smell some strong whiff of bullshit, but he was figured My fucking girlfriend just put me in here when they say you know what's going on here, but goddamn it

11:23And this this poor girl is follow because now she's got they tethered her clothes at her purse Took it out and locked it in her car so that she's naked except for a McDonald's apron and There's a Store full of fucking people she'd have to run out of and through to get to so she's trapped and This is so finally the way this comes to an end Is it one of the goddamn how they describe the maintenance guys and janitor floor mop or whatever Comes in and says what's going on here and gets on the phone and here's about 10 seconds to get to fuck you and hangs up, right? And then there's a goddamn swarm of police cars and ever they show footage from the local news because there's a swarm of investigators and the local Mel Washington cop that I mean he couldn't have come out of central casting any better as a small town

12:31Southern cop this determined that he ain't gonna let that shit fucking fly in here at shit angle fly in my town son And they do this documentary about what happened here and I can't Tell you anymore except you're gonna be surprised who goes to jail and who doesn't But I will tell you one more thing that makes it even more worthwhile. This is why you have to watch the goddamn series Brian would you say that's one of the more ridiculous unique things that would ever occur in a fucking Public place that this thing could be pulled off like that That somebody could call somebody and make them do Various shit like that on over the phone for hours before anybody says wait a minute It's think that would be odd right? Yeah, I don't know if ridiculous or odd or the right word, but I don't know what is the right word yes to all of that yes

13:32Well, guess when they started investigating it how many times that it fucking happened and how many places Around the fucking country coast to coast over a hundred incidents in 30 something states of this guy Completely anonymously being able to fucking call these play there's multi-million dollar lawsuits against McDonald's There are there are people that have gone to jail like I said, I'm not gonna reveal who did who didn't But this it was They even they have a psychologist on it talks about How you know whether young people are just people who are Intimidated by who they believe our authority and and how they are able to be Led into this fucking business and it's it's in some but a Hundred times or more in 30 something states they had various strip searches and spankings and

14:39Odd goings on at fast food places not just McDonald's Taco Bell and various other places, but Multiple people dozens of people fell for this What's gonna happen when that guy hits up the fake rear Ripley? Some money's gonna change hands by God or else why some clothes are coming off one way or the other worlds will collide Yeah, that's crazy. What was the name of the series? Don't pick up the phone on netflix. I'm gonna check that out I'm writing it this this guy from this guy from Mount Washington this copy is he's got He's entertaining without trying to be it's just he's one of these people at it or They look exactly like you would think they look and sound exactly like you think they sound and they're goddamn determined Anyway Real quickly here hold on. I've got an email at Clayton one of our listeners from

15:43Sonoma I thought he said one of our listeners from Soma You know, we are a better program for our listeners from Soma But Clayton is from Sonoma and he wrote in his his wife passed away on September 12th from a surgery gone wrong is his quote and I've mentioned before that Concerns me anytime anybody would suggest that I might need something of that nature Uh, but he's been catching up on the shows to help us take his Mind off things she would go To wwf house shows with her dad in the 80s in southern California Even though she was a really a wrestling fan These days, but she enjoyed my Cornisms and rants against shittler and general Corniness so it was Clayton We're sorry for your loss and and

16:43Hopefully we can uh, well, yeah, we're not taking your mind off of it now because we're talking about it But we wanted to recognize you and and the cult sends their love too By proxy on our on behalf of us very sorry for your loss Clayton The speaking of losing guess what I've lost track of fucking time Brian I didn't realize well, I wasn't told let me put this way. It's not my fault. I wasn't even there I have a big announcement to make right now that by the time that the people here me make this announcement will have already taken place But it's not my fault Because I was only given a window and no specific information But I've got a new series out there in the Internet land for those of you so inclined the The folks advice and the folks from dark side of the ring we had Evan Hustiel and not long ago

17:47We were talking about this past season of dark side And they got together because the people wanted some more of me apparently They there couldn't get enough of me or they want a bunch of me to rip me limb from limb I'm not sure which But at any rate We filmed that I have kept this under wraps because I was waiting for the official announcement which Which I'm now making Uh, I got a new series on the vice sports youtube channel A limited season of eight episodes called corned side of the ring where I Evoke emotes on various topics And they had called me and pitched the idea just you know to talk about some controversial points of time and wrestling And we shot this and it was in the editing process and last I had heard from everybody I said tell me whenever

18:49We're gonna debut we've got a date and a time and etc so that I can make the big announcement And in Evan Hustiel went on vacation with his His new wife or his his lovely bride as Jim Ross would say And vice must have loved the show or me or both because they must have said put this out fast because They forgot to tell the star of the date And Evan's been out of the country for two weeks. So we just got the word both of us That that will be or did Depending on the way you want to look at it premiering on sunday September 27th at new n eastern time on the vice sports youtube channel And we're leading with a look into necrophilia courtesy of the katie vick storyline That the wwf for e at that point was so proud to present But every week will be a different one sundays

19:50Besides katie vick vince russo winning the wcw world title That's a controversial Moment in wrestling all of its own oh kogan on light night tv Jim herds greatest ideas including the black scorpion Steve Austin turn and he'll see him punks pipe bomb the wcw invasion the battle of the billionaires trump and mcman Much of me in each of these To paraphrase paul bosh uh Sundays at new n eastern time so at least now you know in advance For next week ladies and gentlemen Ha when do they forget to tell the star when the movie is coming out Brian what i was a deal with amateurs well God dang it Somebody needs to be even Evan can never leave the country again We're putting a hold on his passport you deal with amateurs in an amateur company

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22:59In St. Louis with the cool Austin skull flaming Logo thing you boy if you sit on one of these for three or four hours i bet your ass was flamin But i have a couple of those that i'm finally letting go they were never circulated they were given to me By the warehouse major domo back in 99 When i sound like don Adams now 99 When i was getting some ring apparatus for obw's air take these chairs That chair from the WrestleMania were Austin won the title that's a big deal That's why i'm selling it Because somebody else can have the big deal now I don't remember now if they did it at WrestleMania 10 and they've been after that But i remember that was around the time where they first started doing that and I don't know that you know this one of the things how do you get if you take it in the train? What do you do at the check? There was There was a couple of years before that they not only couldn't sell the chair They could sell the fucking ticket for the fucking seat

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26:03And that's what's happening at Jim cornette dot com all right All right, before we go any further and I know some people are saying you've gone too far already Uh We're going to talk about the AEW program later on in our episode here But Apparently people have again Inundated us with the news that Uncle Dave and cousin Brian Are there like they're like buddy and Alfie now my my boys My boys here buddy and Alfie there's snarlin and nippin and Biting at each other all the time except my boys are their brothers their bros They're just playing they're just rousting around But it's getting Let's get physical Physical between david brine. There's there's some there's some venom There's some in mite. I see I've listened to destiny to love this in mite going on this

27:04Hatred yeah, I don't know if let's get physicals the right song to use that even though the word physicals in it It wasn't that kind of physicality like beat someone up or fight with someone. It was a whole oh I think they're they're gonna any minute now any minute. They're gonna shoot the angle See this is a long term storytellin deal where they've just Somebody's gonna have a pop-up moment. I believe this cousin Brian because even though he's small. He's wiry He's like the barney five of podcasting. He's His hands are deadly weapons And he's younger And I'm telling you I think he can take uncle Dave and sooner or later he's gonna have the pop-up moment Bow bang zoom to the moon And then he's gonna be arrested for elder abuse because poor uncle Dave I mean, they're not gonna be able to determine If any part of david's head and face are swollen more of after the attack and it was before it's kind of All gotten mushy now like a rotting vegetable in the fucking back of the garden

28:07but you know They're at it again. They're at it again. There's audio then the video started going around I don't know why davis dying his hair. He's He doesn't have the head of hair are used to and Is noticeable so it's really noticeable when all of a sudden a jet black Like fucking Elvis or Prime Wayne Newton. It's just black. It's just black And I think he I think you you will You will find that I have elected to age gradually because everyone knows that you've been around for a while There's no sense in trying to hide Mother nature you can't fight mother nature, but if you were going to Would you go jet black or would you go like brownish or something? I would I would go the brownish with to maybe a little salt and pepper type of thing because people would have to figure

29:08You know what the fuck yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah, a little credibility here to the thing don't look like goddamn Joe Franklin on channel nine See I got you there with that local reference that you now you'll never be able to see you are Cacacus yeah, that's there you go Great things come from Cacacus But uh this argument is a really unique one we could discuss the merits of their points But it's really the tone of it and the uh I guess the way it could be dismissed any criticism of a w But let's get what you let's get what you let's get your thoughts on this. This is Dave Meltzer and Brian Alvarez on Wrestling Observer Radio discussing Steven Borden and Darby Allen's promo in the back Where Edge came out or Adam Copeland To confront them because they're gonna be in a number one contenders match for the tag titles which he and Christian cage are the champions

30:15It and yes in which Darby has actually is the one that has made the challenge for us I recall but nevertheless Uh, then we will come back and not only obviously we'll be reacting to this but then I'll tell you what I thought of the Dad gum interview go ahead Yeah, and this is not gonna go for wasa will break it up along the way and give our thoughts. Let's go to this Meltzer and Alvarez on this promo This was infuriating Copeland says Steve you said you wanted to challenge the tag champs if you beat Fletcher and knighted all out Well, I don't know if you know this but I And one half of the tag team champions and brother you're reaching past the stars for that dream There's nothing wrong with what no this guy was a scull again no idea was number one contented I was like this young guys challenging me how dare you he never said he had no idea He said that you're overreaching that you're not ready for this thing. I mean you're in the man He did the promo acting like he was offended and what Steve had said

31:16Yes You're offended that he wants a tag title shot. He's in a number one contenders match Why are you mad at Steve then you get mad at Tony get mad at whoever put this Match together whoever put him in the match in theory this guy let me stop it here for a moment because this is a silly argument But what are your initial thoughts here? Well also, it's not like that edge was covered in screaming at this is where again, I think Alvarez is touchy here because edge was I thought trying to create some kind of Story and at least a little bit of interest where there really is none And it doesn't make sense the way it's booked But if edge just matter of factly says hey It's to Steven I think you're You're great now you got a world of potential You know, you're gonna be big

32:17but I'm A legend you're reaching for the stars and you Darby you're you're fucking wonderful But you you climbed Mount Everest, but I look at it like Like you're trying to climb to Mount Everest here. He was trying to just drum up some fucking interest But he wasn't saying Steven fuck you at your father. You're a fucking punk. You'll never be anything So I think Alvarez is touchy and Dave on the other hand He can't Articulate what I just said Because he's too busy trying to stop no don't criticize this at all you don't understand Is did it trying to reasonably fucking discuss something If I'm the goddamn unreasonable one or reasonable one how unreasonable are they All right, let's go back to this audio here. Meltzer said what even posted it Dave Meltzer and Brian Alvarez discussing this

33:18Critical situation Over his head and I'm telling you I'm a legend of 30 years and he's had three weeks of TV So yes, you know you're in way over your head. That's obviously what he said I mean if you didn't get why is it Dave? Why is it a number? Why is it a number one can it smash then? It doesn't matter. It's like the point it doesn't matter No, the point of all this wasn't about the point here. Oh, not here And Dave is mischaracterizing it from his side because edge wasn't fucking foaming mad angry that they would challenge but at the same time he also Wasn't dismissive like you know Dave's out you're right over your head like that and then it doesn't matter Negates the whole it's a stupid idea to put this young man in this big of a position this quickly And everybody try to he's it's a die rocky die fucking scenario all these people are too polite to do that

34:19But where you're just obviously pushing a guy into a made event position because who his father is From the start no matter how good an athlete he is blah blah blah There's nuances to this but Brian's got one way in Dave's completely incapable Of admitting the Tony is not Putting this guy over in the right way from the start That's just my thought and no one's criticizing Steven Borden for the fact that he dresses like he's a big fan of Ducin Domino And yeah, well, there's that too. I don't know what is fuck we remember us. So what is his gimmick? Maybe they've just got him in a black bag and to like and figure out how to color him up Of all this is that he thought that Steve was in over his head if he challenges them Okay, in the match or not in the match you're in over your head. We're at a different league than you Well, it's Steve wins. He's challenging them It doesn't matter whether Copeland likes it or not. It's a number one contenders match That's what he voiced ridiculous. That was the point. I make perfect sense

35:22Look, everything makes perfect sense. Dave except what it doesn't and this didn't This makes perfect sense. It's oh my god You're talking about a guy who has been wrestling for 30 years and a guy who's been wrestling On television for three weeks and he's saying that you're over your head. Of course that makes sense. Of course that makes sense I think about is how does it make sense? I think about Contenters bet you're missing. Get in there then. How do you get in there then? You're completely Oh, let's stop it for a moment because they're just you know each other. Yes It's because of Tony Khan's bad booking. Of course he shouldn't be in a number one contender match for a tag team title or any kind of fucking title after three matches and As well as well go ahead and say and also what I thought from this interview was when Darby got the chance to respond He sounds like he's so mud Even though he's straight or whatever the fuck he's just He's just as mud fence as a personality and then Darby accepted the challenge

36:27He said challenge accepted Edge wasn't a one that gave the challenge They said they wanted a challenge the fuck is so they accepted their own challenge So Edge walked out there and was trying to think of something to say to not To talk about the fact that this doesn't really make sense. We're having this match So I'll try to give it some kind of backstory while you're just starting It is good as you are you know, you're you're you're reaching for the stars kid and and Darby You know god damn you're gonna have to climb two Mount Everest because we're legends. What the fuck else is he gonna say Hey Steven I never liked your father. What is he gonna say? He's there still spoke he's supposed to be a baby face Christian is a Baby face because he's a heel that is partner the baby face won't let him say bad things about the other people's mothers god damn it Do you see why with this booking an edge may have just tried to make some shit up to talk about

37:30And I don't think he was I think he was right down the middle with it I think these two are both fucking out of their minds You know the problem too with him calling himself Steven Borden is every time someone addresses him by name It sounds like they're you know like a parent It sounds like they're pissed at him. I listen Steven Steven Yes, Steven It sounds like I'm talking to Alfred Alfred Alfred don't piss on that curtain Alfred. Let's go back to melt turn Alvarez Stop this. Let's stop the show. He's not worthy Brian the number one Continent Ryan you're not gonna get the point. Oh wow. Oh You're not gonna get the point. It's an easy point. I think almost anyone can understand it. Let's move on All right, let's stop it for a second because that's it's something Well, and oh wow Yes, and let me know when you've done the dishes young lady Wow, you're never gonna get it everyone else can get it you so see the bill we get it. Let's move on let's move on You're dismissed

38:33Ha has anyone talk to Dave like that. What makes a thing? That's the way you uh, I don't care I don't care if Brian was advocating for the people to start getting down on her hands and knees and eating dog shit off sidewalk every morning for a fucking health kick If if somebody talked to me that way I would have to have have an off-air conversation with them Depending on how far apart we were and it's on video Get your own phone or in person and it's on video so you get to see Alvarez's face when he gets hit with that Move on you'll never get it kid Let's go back How do you not get this? Dave Adam Copeland just move on just move on waste in your time. We're wasting his upset that this guy is challenging them Even though he's in a number one considers match That doesn't make it should he win the match and then not challenge Adam Copeland is that the is at the answer?

39:34No, he's giving him that he's giving him the speech of you're not ready whether you win the match or not You're not taking this out on poor Steve Borden who just got put in the match by somebody else It has nothing to do you didn't take it out on he did he see targeted He's giving it yeah, I heard you Borden. I heard what you said. I'm upset about this poor Steve sexy Steve didn't do anything He got put in the match by somebody else Why She's Time out The other you're there. Well, Brian last not Brian over Alvarez Brian last Did you see from Edge the level of confrontation lism that is being represented by cousin Brian there He wasn't being up in people's fad to either that or everybody's so But this company they're all just sleep walking through this shit But I didn't really detect any goddamn Passion of anything in this so I that's why I'm asking you did

40:39Was Edge being Snotty and helish to these people or just trying to come up with a fucking reason to have this promo Yeah, I mean the idea of it may not have been the best one and maybe it's all just a big tease because we'll see if edging Christian or even the tagging champions after the pay-per-view But You know he went from being a friendly guy to Getting a little more stern and saying well, you know you're coming after me I don't think it was I do think Alvarez maybe overdid it a bit here That's why I think the bigger story is just about the dismissiveness and You know Because the perfect counter argument to what The Bryan was saying there was to Find the fault where it lays it at the bottom which is Tony book and it shit this way

41:40But that's not on the table so they just asked to fucking Yale at people, but I'm I'm telling I think Maybe we ought to start a go fund me for some kind of couples counseling I don't know maybe we need a separation a few more notes here Uh, Meltzer said what tweeted these out or reach we did and I guess Dave Meltzer on Twitter Someone wrote my Gilbert Dave and Bryan went to war again on WOR great radio To which Dave quote tweeted When that becomes great radio and the talk about a w boxing and UFC as well as the battles over paramount wb D deal aren't the main subject. I think there's a real priority issue For sure, I'm not the guy to listen to because I'm not wasting time on silly stuff any longer And then No, I'll tell you what if you want any kind of goddamn good exciting radio Dave is not the guy to listen to any longer. I'll stay that for it

42:43And then someone else tweeted can't believe he said you're not going to get the point so let's move on To another podcaster on his site which is you know, it's Alvarez's partner To which Dave responded It was a waste of time the entire subject Adam Copeland cut a promo said things you would obviously say in a wrestling promo Like exactly what his character under the circumstances should say Wasting time because someone didn't want to accept makes for a bad show someone Makes for a badge, you know, no that these hey, I'll tell you what if all they'll do is this all day I think it's a great show. I don't want to hear any of this goddamn Straight talk about wrestling, but if they'll argue with each other. I think it's hilarious If they will debate serious points about a W's TV like this that's great radio The fact that Dave doesn't recognize that's great radios because he doesn't want to participate in it Because he doesn't want to be a part of that kind of conversation He just didn't want to break with tradition therefore. He doesn't want to participate in entertaining radio

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52:09And aired everybody out down there and of course it was Obviously obviously all part of the plan But then We have really seen her her anything of him because he's on NXT and and even Grayson Waller is not worth watching that fucking show But We figured if he did something newsworthy Some of the listeners would alert us to it and apparently that has happened but I'm sorry to say that it's newsworthy For all the wrong reasons They've put the belt on Grayson Waller at NXT. He's the NXT champion and now apparently is next challenger and number one contender Is our old friend the human water bed himself Mason Rook He's still there they haven't God buyers remorse come to their senses Watch him work Whatever the K listen to him talk

53:10He's still there and now it's Mason Rook Versus Grayson Waller for the NXT title they had a big confrontation In the ring between the two of them did you saw it didn't you Brian? I did a lot of people said we should check it out to see what's going on with two of the people we've been following and I certainly saw it Well, I quit following Mason Rook I was freezing a death in that much shade but What's the matter with you I'm not heard that one that was good Well, I don't want to get pneumonia at my age But this is this is one of the reasons why that For the first 70 years of television wrestling until What 10 years ago or whatever it was they didn't just have two guys just go out there and stand in an empty ring and talk to each other

54:10I will I'll play Producer here in a minute and maybe tell you how I might have tried to structure this thing, but as it was It's the same thing Grayson Waller goes out. He's got the bell. This guy thinks he's the number one contender. Well, fuck him Mason Rook comes out And then they stand there for five or six minutes at least it wasn't longer than that And just talked to each other and most of this Was Grayson Waller Doing a promo or I can't even call it a promo reciting of Some verbiage to Mason Rook while Mason Rook paced around in street clothes and his dumpy ass self looking like a fan that wandered in From a fucking Rosie O'Donnell look alike contest It's just And the way that Grayson Waller the thing I liked about His first promo was he came out. He was cutting people a little bit sharply

55:14And making some pointed comments now he he spent a half of this Trying to put Mason Rook over as Potential top talent and you got all the potential in the world and you've got talent and did I mention the potential and what I The only criticism is your soft and lazy and complacent and I've seen quit in your eyes Can you actually look at this motherfucker good? I have a fight with him say but I've seen quit in your eyes I've already seen the fucking fork in his hand I wouldn't need to see fear in this fucking guy's eyes. You didn't see quit in his eyes because it was catering But that's They've scripted this stuff and And even set at the start grace wallet is said I could Come out and you know and roast you And tell Jeff what yeah, that might have been fucking entertaining. It might have been something a heel might do

56:18At this obvious target of ridicule because look at the state of him But he just said I'm gonna wear you out and blow you up and make you quit And then he handed Mason Rook the microphone Is so that he can make a big comeback to this somehow and and of course in grace wallet Been making the jokes also this some microphone. I know some of you in the back don't recognize that He's still trying to do the inside shit, but he's standing there With this fucking macy's float and they're trying to give him this Verbige to put this fucking guy over when nobody would You wouldn't even if you Why do if he thinks he's a great? Why do we want to see the match? What does say the other the other show we did about These two guys telling each other how great they are And how we don't just see somebody tear somebody the fuck down In two or three minutes like a heel used to do or

57:20A baby face fucking make you want to see the match with some intensity like dusty used to instead we got these monologues These boring ass frumpy mother fuggers God damn it So the dickens street urchin in his soprano It does did some lines about Grace Waller not make it in on the main roster and the friends and family crowd popped I get because he wasn't in the vision. I don't know what the fuck was going on there. Do you? Well first he said I have a theory which got the pop because of the mention of theory And then he mentioned the vision former partners over there right now with Maxine Dupri in the vision and He's what Mason Rook But the people it was like they hit the applause sign for the you know I guess they've taken to this yeah, I guess he stands out back and hands out donuts after the shows to the crowd but

58:22Nevertheless It's like being told off by a of rude 12-year-old when this guy is talking and he actually he says I'm the best big man in the game I'm not sure of any of those three words except big best big man big is not in question the other two Maybe negotiable And I'm thinking how does grace waller keep a fucking straight face It's just No And if you said to me Jim Cornat we have captured Buddy and Alfred and we're not gonna let him go until you produce this segment to get something That may cause some goddamn interest in these two Then I would do it reluctantly but I do it a little differently. Do you care to hear it Brian? Yes as long as the dogs are safe Well, that's first and foremost

59:25Again the reason why that so much of this is so stagy and these guys just meander and it's just painful is because there's no moderator There's no interviewer. There's no Authority figure keeping them from just well. I'll just slap you Because why there's no rules to any of this shit anybody more people just do what they want and if If you can jump a guy and try to run him over with a fork lift backstage Why can't you slap him in a live interview if there's no official in between you just a thought But have your lead Announce her the play by play guy the host of the show Have him bring out grace waller the NXT champion And introduce him by leading into But you're gonna be defending that NXT title against none other than Mason Rook who says he's the best big man in the business And I'll tell you this he's got all the potential and all the And you have the announcer pitch it By saying the good things about the baby face

1:00:28And confronting the heel champion with that and then Closing up with but it's gonna be settled in the ring and your thoughts on Mason Rook and Then Let god dim grace and waller do his heel promo. He doesn't need to put the guy over He could even say well, you're right about all the things you said, but Then he can call him a fat fucking prick with a god dim a coastline instead of a waistline who's got his own gravitational pull or whatever And say he's indicative of the guys around here that are soft and lazy and complacent And I don't I'm not in any way intimidated by him because to squash me With that big fucking frame. He's got a land on me first and I'm too quick and too smart and too experienced And a blah blah blah and let him hit him with the final fucking insult And let Mason Rook come out with a few referees following him And people trying to say whoa, don't do this and teach him how to act also instead of standing like fucking statues

1:01:35With their god damn arms in the air But have him bust in and say motherfucker you can say it to my face. I know I'm fat I've been fed all my life. I just wish he had some type of different god damn boys But he could already come in fired up instead of standing there With that moat face and those jowls like droopy droopy fucking dog listening to him being Eviscerated for five minutes for he responds He comes in hot. I've had fat on my life, and I'll tell you what I'm gonna be the fat NXT champion when I get a hold of you because one way or another I'm gonna squash you like a goddamn grape you son of a bit whatever some emotion And fire up and maybe try to pop face wall or let him try to and get a little shoving going on that everybody's getting in the middle of the Announcer can reiterate You can save it for the match. It's gonna take place next week at a blah blah blah

1:02:37And get some type of tension and confrontation Without these two just standing there and they could have They could have done it at any time if they were that pissed right nobody was stopping them fuck Yeah, but they didn't it's what they didn't do. No, they didn't oh Big match. I presume coming up somewhere. I Yes, well, I think they said it's next week. Do we have to watch that too? Certainly to God? They wouldn't put the belt on this. No, they can't put the belt on it unless they make a new belt It wouldn't go around. Who do you think we'll do the run? We haven't watched in a while Who do you think we'll do the running? Will it be Tony the Angelo? Will it be cruise Montana? Will it be Zilla Fattu Ray Wildcard I think it'll be Arnold Finster Wildcard, okay. Yeah Wild card Arnold Finster. He's on he's on the developmental roster right now How did you know they just gave him the gimmick last week?

1:03:40He pulls fucking playing cards at a various orifices of his body as nose his ears his ass And flings him at you like fighting stars All right a modern-day spellbinder Well, that's all about that I guess Well, I understand if we'll keep Dated on let me throw this as far away as I can and a pad of notes about Mason Rook Uh the PWI 500 is out from what you have led me to believe and they have rated the wrestlers They've undertaken that massive Responsibility so we don't have to because right there in one magazine From pro wrestling illustrated Every single wrestler of any note in the wrestling business right there rated in order No argument no discussion needed they've done it It's scientific it's over with there's no way we can disagree with anything We're there we're just now reporting on the facts is this correct

1:04:44We will certainly report on what is there we can talk about what we think is fair or not But Jim real quick the PWI 500 which began in 1991 the evaluation period August 1st 2025 To July 31st 2026 So if you win the lottery on August 1st Say you're still a broke son of a bitch in their eyes I wouldn't count towards this the criteria in ring achievement influence technical ability competition activity And the committee includes archaedian vanguard's Brian Salman Although we've been asked to Also say that nothing is his fault that you're about to hear because he's just a A cog in the flywheel he actually said if anyone has any issues in any of this please get in touch directly So uh reach out yes directly

1:05:44bypass us completely go directly to Brian But Jim let's get to the PWI 500 and and also have there's one more criteria also and who Do we believe sells magazines so we can put in the top fucking couple and put them on a cover there's that's a heavy heavy influence and For this issue The first time PWI has done this There's an alternate cover There's one with several of the candidates Oh, and there's one with just the star or number one. I guess we should say But just the the star of our show And we've also established that they seem to wait And I'm not using that in in terms of w a it they wait W e i g h t they wait their rankings At the top often toward a e w We've gotten the impression that they believe that the a w audience is more of a magazine by an

1:06:47population sometimes than the w w audience in the past with some of these lists I recall do you recall that? That is the way it has seen the times All that's the way I always heard it was good to gonna be sometimes it seems they really like women wrestlers who No one's heard of on their cover. I can't really explain a lot of those decisions But let's get to the people that that's that that's a deep subset of the audience had by several copies because sometimes the The copies wear out or get stuck together Jim who do you think will be number one for the period of time in question but for what we're gonna call it 2026 the 2026 pw i 500 oh guy you know i'm so bad on remembering this modern chronological timeline as far as who did what it was in july or september because it all blurs together But i mean

1:07:49If you're going for the top guy into business over the last year and A month or whatever the fuck um It would it be punk would it be rains would it be i think the bloom has kind of been off kodi um I don't think they can give the number one spot But Necessarily to any individual at a w at this point if you're talking about number one in the entire business Oh I died But are they gonna try to fool me and go with the deep cut one of the indie favorites Who are the stars in wrestling these days what are stars let me clarify this i don't know See him punk Jim number one MJF Well bless him They're rewarding past

1:08:51Accomplishments apparently what the well during the evaluation period it says here One the a w world title for a second time pinning some owo joe in a four way Then lost it then got it back lost it again all in the same period one has third a w world championship by beating darby Alan in New York City Use the half crab and the low blow to defeat a verno and capture the cml world light heavyweight championship Oh first the mexico city defeated hangman atom page In a texas deathmatch in Los Angeles And he put away kenny omega with the heat secret pile driver I should just any put away kenny omega people have been what in a mental institution Well, that's a good for him. Jesus christ and now he's gone and he's gone A big jump last year. He was number 30 this year number one

1:09:54I would have thought number 30 was too low. Well, I think number one may be too high Jim number two on the list Last year's number one and number one the year before that as well Cody Rhodes Well, I thought the bloom was off Cody, but I Honestly didn't think that he'd get number two this year to be honest uh because now We're still leaving out Roman. We're still leaving out punk We're still leaving out anybody at a w that's actually on the fucking cards these days on a regular basis Well, you've mentioned him a few times number three Jim CM Punk Okay, well, I guess they figured well, you know what the fuck we've got to do this now number three CM punk number four and he guesses number four Oh god damn it. I don't know where these people are going mexico oh come on mexico you cannot deny the amazing success he has had at arena mexico and all throughout the land of mexico

1:11:01lucho libre's number one star mexico With his song with his hit song All throughout the land of mexico remember when Went toadishivades said a few weeks ago Well, the match next week is gonna be in his hometown of mexico Yeah Fucking lense and Hector tell him in mexico to stop it Oh How many Pro wrestling illustrated magazines do they sell in mexico? I can't speak to their international distribution. I do not know do they have a Spanish language edition I don't know I don't know would we I mean I know he's doing I think mystico doing record business in mexico is a bigger story to the American internet fan that it is to the fucking fans in mexico

1:12:03Somebody ought to tell what is he just the average mexican fan not the fan that reads the internet or the tourist fan or whatever but just the regular mexican fans that come to arena mexico on their regular night of the week and watch the matches Do they have any idea they're in the middle of a record setting run of business Or do they even give a shit if mystico wrestles on some tv show in the united states or are they just Regular fans like we used to have here And now it's just the fans here. It's a big fucking oh my god mexican was doing record business and the guys in fucking The landcaster pizzo vania or whatever or we hawk him and he he'll never Darken that doorstep anyway. Well before you run him down any further don't an evaluation period gym he beat mjf In a mask versus title match at the 92nd anniversary show for cml winning the world light heavyweight championship

1:13:05He defeated Barbara Cavernario In a brutally physical two out of three falls light heavyweight title defense in mexican city on January 9th He was barbure claire's brother he won a thrilling bout over Templario on an episode of mlw fusion tape February 7 in cissaro illinois wait what Did mjf work for mlw no this is mystico this is miss oh this is mystico. I'm sorry Mystico works for everybody But that's a big jump down from cml gym mlw fusion there, but that's number four mystico number five any guesses on five new Kanozka tekesta oh for christ say number five surprise right that's a surprising Success story here and yeah, we have we haven't gotten to Roman range yet and I don't even like Roman reigns

1:14:08But he's with the biggest stars to business. How would it Well, let's see if he's next number six gym hangman out on page. Oh good god I don't even I mean he's not even positioned anymore as highly as moxley is and even though moxley is the worst pushed wrestler in the god damn business If you were going to go to the AW well If moxley is a bigger deal than pg is now former career taught journalism graphic design and communications That Halifax community high school in Nova Scotia and Halifax County high school excuse me in Virginia. Oh Oh I was gonna say maybe that explains something but He taught communications, but he can't communicate Well, Jim let's move on here number seven on the list. You guessed it

1:15:08Yoda suji Yo, I'm suji Y'all do what? Yoda Suji how many magazines do they sell in Japan and What My newt amount of the American audience would have ever heard of this young fella. Well, he has a big sports background Jim it says here he played quarterback for the Nepod sports science universities American football team and He was iwgp champion over the last year, but uh Congratulations Yoda suji so he played on the football team of the technical college Which him let's move on here. We got a long way to go Now we're not gonna do the whole 500 number eight Trick Williams Oh lordy I have a what we like trick. I like trick everybody likes a good trick

1:16:11Uh But he's not top 10 in the business is he but neither are some of these other fucking fellows Who's an interesting one number nine? Oh, Buffemi I can understand him possibly being moved up to the Well with the way this list is going three or four Because now you've got a new star who everybody's interested in and he's Almost undefeated and he's in the main events that he's drawn There you go crank him up a little bit Well number 10 any guesses on 10 tens a big number. Any guesses 10 10 is the loneliest number that you ever heard Uh, well, I guess one times 10 but Jim goonther number 10 I didn't had a week not think about goonther before now. I just Where has goonther been he's kind of an afterthought right now. He's on smat down He's wrestling CM Punk and Finn Balor tonight

1:17:13Well, he hadn't been around lately. He was goofing around with Dan housing right a few weeks of that Fuck yeah, I try to skip over that shit. Well number 11. Yeah goonther should be higher Also over The Acaatory well speaking of higher Jim someone who jumps sky high bandito number 11 bandito Roman Reigns must have turned them down for an interview Why don't know how many times I guess I'm assuming Roman Reigns wrestled within the period of time that is in question. So yeah, well, let's see if he comes up number 12 Darby Allen Boy, yeah, they're they're appealing to the indie crowd at this point At 13 we have cruise Montana My guess did they they had to mention somebody for min xt and he was the champion at the time At 14 calum noomin

1:18:13He is the one that looks like a god damn You know escapee from an orphanage, right? Because he's I don't know how else to describe it is if I'm thinking of the right person because they mentioned his name and wasn't he on one EW show or something or he was on a clip from it He's the youngest iwgp champion in history and he's a part of united empire and 11 years old Well, maybe a little bit older than that but now let's move on here that that the weatherman here in Louisville on WHA s the child prodigy austin evans he could kick the shit out of calum noomin I'm not gonna do anything to stir up this fight Jim, but uh Well, you ought to hear the things that austin evan has said about calum noomin And his mother if he looks 11 let's move on to someone who wrestles 11 At 15 kenny omega Here boy, well how the mighty have fallen because he was the darling of the

1:19:16The the subset of the indie fans here and now he's all the way down to 15 so he's in the he's in the sunset of his career Followed by 16 will osprey ah I can't believe that they're going to put anybody In a w on the list that they didn't really lead with osprey because he's Or should be the marketable guy at this point I guess within the period of time it's right before he won the world title in wembley But he was still pretty well pushed in his comeback, but Here he is nothing to be embarrassed about 16 Followed by 17 I'd be embarrassed if my name was on this list at all kazushka oka who boy Followed by Dominic Mysterio at 18 and John Moxley at 19 Yeah boy, what a fucking threesome

1:20:18Adomnic again should be higher he's younger he's with the bigger company. He has better matches He can talk And then Okada o boring o bla o bla dee o bla da He broke down he can't work he can't talk and he looks like shit Well Seth Rollins comes in at number 20 Fall by 21 Kyle Fletcher 22 sami zane 23 Penta And 24 Kevin Knight so a swing there of top in ring Talent of the day. It's like hold on there. They're they're ultra well. They're almost alternating They screwed up. They should have replaced Kevin Knight and Penta at opposite places and they'd be Fucking alternating 25 a swore Strickland Followed by Zach Saber Jr. at 26

1:21:19Drew McIntyre at 27. Where's he? He must be filming god damn gone with the Scottish wind because he's been going a long time But there's another guy I don't know how long he's been gone that maybe he just wasn't He had to be active for some of this But to put Any of these various unknown names above a guy like Drew McIntyre is bleh Fall by 28 Samoa Joe Where's he? He was filming something. Yeah, he's filming the new season of the peacock series twisted metal. It says here You think that Tony is just At this point it would he save himself time if he just fully funded the motion picture country home now and gave everybody a place to retire to Because he pays people to go do movies and TV all the time Well Jim roundly after 20 is here at 29 Leon Slater

1:22:22And at 30 killer cross Oh boy, I want to come back to bite him He's if where is it did he quit to business he's gone right he is He won the MLW world championship in January He holds titles and several other promotions including Australia's WSW And Romania's RPW Romania He had to go to Romania And then it says dot dot dot oozes charisma Jesus Christ Apparently somebody who wants to get that ooze on him uh don't eat the complete shit What's look at more of the pain here. Where the end? Okay, we've been further the young guys the new guys. Where's jivon Evans Where's jivon Evans on this list he ought to be on top of some of these some bitches too Oh, let's see 31 in Amora 32 Silas Mason 33 meahara 34 Claudio

1:23:3235 Lee Mori already That's a surprising one is the 35th best wrestler in the world Followed by 36 heho del vi kingo. I was gonna say he ho he ho Oh by 37 on drade Followed by a 38 Atticus Kouger Kouger is it Kouger Atticus Kouger who it has a picture of him here. I don't know who this man is He is from Cleveland, Ohio He overtook effi Last fall for the coveted game changer wrestling championship. Oh, there you go winning a triple threat also involving Charles Mason All right. Oh, I was thinking clearance Mason but So basically this this Kouger fella got behind I bet that's the first Kouger that ever got behind effi Jim, let's move on here 39 Ricky Saints 40 Nick nemith

1:24:3341 here's your answer jivon Evans. Oh for Christ sake That All right, Ed. I'm a Nick nemith fan, but Jesus Christ Rowling at the 40s LA night Grande americano J. Usso mark brisco Tony the angelo Carmelo Hayes Hatchachero 50 we have Jacob Fattu Oh Nice having to put him up at 50 since he was just challenging for the world title of the biggest company in the world A few months ago during this period of time But he was a nearly do it as well as fucking The guy that stretched effi All right, I'm gonna fast forward a little bit. Let's see how many of these names you've ever heard of we're now in the 100s 111 Tom Latimer I know he is actually

1:25:33Uh, Camille's husband. That's right. That's right 112 a verno I've got an aversion to him 113 Elijah Blum Uh, well, I maybe he fell off the ropes 114 Shun Skywalker Or could be shun. I'm not sure Shun or shun skywalker. I actually I thought he was in a movie, but So no 115 Otis Cogor I guess the uh The brother of the other one the Cougar the brother of the other brother Yeah, that's his brother. It says eraticus is his brother, so well good. It's good. They're in the family business at 116 We have Shinya Ayoki Followed by 117 Luke Jacobs 118 Brian Eidl

1:26:37119 aura What 120 go Shazaki any of these names ringing a bell I've heard I've seen go Shazaki's name in print before somewhere But we're only in the hundred Brian you and I on your program are doing a list of And we have done a list of guys in 1984 in the business and are doing now 1994 and going through lists of names in their 20s and 30s and 40s and we would get to a hundred people long before That there was ever a name that you didn't ever hear of And this we're already in the hundreds and with nobody's Is this the state of the business? 161 Malachi Black he heard of him oh 162 Alec place Alec Price excuse me Alec Price

1:27:39Who apparently is an AW I don't even know who this is but he's there at 163 Mal What ma oh Mal Is he the chairman Ha At 164 Yamato 165 Daniel Garcia 166 Kaito Keo Mia excuse me for not being familiar with Mr. Mia Keo Mr Keo Mia 167 Jackson Drake At 168 Shabada He once had his brain removed as reported in the wrestling observer newsletter a breakthrough in science Followed by 169 Kerry Morton He once had his brain removed According to the observed now I can 170 Chris Brooks Chris Brooks

1:28:42No, is he is he related to Phil? Well, here's one for you. Here's one that you know 177 Mike Mondo Good Lord trained by OEW wrestling school Well, it again If this list was the List of the top workers in the business you could put Mondo probably at number five I would think even today but You know He certainly deserves to be higher than that but on this list. I think people who put it together were high Well, let's hit the 200s Jim. I was about to say let's fast forward number 200 AJ Francis I got you think he's calling him up cussing him because there's a 199 nobody's in front of him At 201 is Chaz Hall aka star boy Charlie Oh boy That 202 is Ilya Leflore

1:29:43Who used to wrestle as EK prosper a French wrestler Wait a minute. We just saw that name somewhere written down or we read it or something Yeah, where was that it was about a match. It was about some match. We went back to look for the results for I don't remember what it was though Thanks modern wrestling Jim 203 Robbie Thorpe Robbie Thorpe Followed by 204 Rio R H I O R H I O Rio Fall by but that's not is that is that our Rio or is that another Rio? When's her next comeback Rio but let's move out At 205 Trevor Lee whatever happened to him That was a shamed him yeah, that was one of his what was his name Jackson's right no it was uh, no It was uh, yeah, what was his name he was very hairy. He was a hairy man. And he had appeal to him

1:30:47They beat that out of him and shaved him He used to say his name and all his promos. I can't remember what Scott didn't name him name was what was his god damn name And Cameron Grimes Cameron Grimes At 206 EK prosper Oh, I just he was just listed Yeah, you know forgive me the other guy is not EK prosper. This is EK prosper the other guy used to be Ige blank and he wrestled EK prosper to a draw But EK prosper at 206 Lincoln prosper it's official in the record books. It's a draw ladies gentlemen Jim fall by 207 Rohan Roger are these even names what is what is happening? How can they have 300 more of these? At 208 June Kasai Fall by someone you know at 209

1:31:50Hammerstone Good lord we haven't heard of him and ages and eons he I thought was gonna be somebody somebody somebody They was gonna be somebody he was gonna be somebody that got some notice but uh Nobody noticed Well 210 robbiex robbiex Fall by drew Parker any of these names past the name test drew Parker I'd if you're putting together a phone book of Pekip see you they're fine Followed by Roger strong you've heard of him I told you Poor fella Roger strong at 220 big fudge Big fudge Jim trained by Madison Eagles A comedian competitor who is Madison Eagle you think big fudge is comedic competitor Well big fudge became the PWA heavyweight champion after defeating

1:32:53Chebs In January held the title for 168 days that's a that's a heck of an accomplishment You know I heard you know the picture of big fudge it's a skinny white guy in a mask Unexpected twist there Oh boy, oh I would have said the only Guide that Luth is would agree to drop the NWA belt too was big fudge Well, I'm gonna go a little more forward here on this list Jim to see what's going on If we go to Other women on the list there are some women on the list apparently because Megan Bain is here 264 Is that her is that her placement or her weight what I don't know uh exactly 264 at alas Vegas, Nevada It's her placement and I know it's not the weight because it 262 to before her is Mason Rook Ah, well, we know he's definitely in the fours

1:33:54Jim a 266 BRG BRG followed by Vaughan vertigo Vaughan vertigo Nickname what vdago I wish I could have been the one to pitch Vince McMahon the name of we were gonna call him Vaughan vertigo Vince Holy fuck that sounds like at fucking creative services shit like chili McFrees Jim remember foego dill soul Yes, yes, did he foego away? What do you think he's wrestling as now? He's number 269 Uh, he's wrestling as as the return of foego dill soul KJ or so KJ or what does that have to do with either foego or dill soul? He's moved on from the soul it sounds like at 270 Hell who are Forgive me for not knowing this name waste Jim xe l h u a

1:35:00Hell who There's only one way to pronounce it Is it Jamaican tune from fucking Harry Belafonte? Hell who Well Jim what's that move on here? Let's see some more names as I go down the Lashatsy black hearts on the list at 291 Right above Scott green Scott green I beat Robbie Thorpe previously followed by Keanu Carver Keanu Carver at 293 294 rusev oh My god Where's he well, I guess he's back home in Bulgaria I guess He got to be number 293 by just not wrestling Well, he's 294 the correct you there at 295 we have psycho touchibana Followed by Charles Crowley Followed by Jonathan Grisham

1:36:02forgot about him Followed by Tetsuya ando Followed by Dustin Waller Followed by Charlie Evans Charlie if you're if you're lower than 300 on this list wouldn't you be kind of You would qualify to sue for slander is what I'm saying you would have a legitimate case Stop me when you've actually heard one of these names legit. This is now we're in the 301 itchy bomb Michael plant or Michael plantay I'm not exactly sure he's out of Quebec 303 Trevor outlaw Trevor outlaw Followed by mr. danger Mr. Danger Ishin at 305 ishin Brian Cage Right there we got one that you know Jesus Christ I can't stand him But I wouldn't put him below this murderers row of fucking anonymous goddamn

1:37:08fugitives while he's followed by 307 Travis Williams After him we have doctor redacted Doctor redacted at 308 Something a movie you'd see on Svenguly 309 jack morris Not the whole of fame pitcher But this is jack morris His tagline sublime Every time A three-ten gym john hawking John Hawking what in the world foul by Karen noir Karen noir Ricky Sosa coming in at 312 Ricky Sosa He's a Belgian wrestler How do you play baseball that's Sammy Sosa Oh At 313 violento jack There's a lot of just pey-hell boy yeah

1:38:09All right let's everybody is asking at this point What is the ultimate indignity that can befall a pro wrestler to tell them That they are just the worst piece of shit that ever crawled up out of a slime pit On the history of the planet whose number 500 Well hold on we have 319 here cocaine Of cocaine out of juggle-o-chip each of wrestling apparently That's a scroll down to the bottom of baron corbans over here Well, he deserves to be down here somewhere here's your boy Paul Walter house are 374 374 Lance archers 378 so he'd be good lord That's insulting Many Viking go we were just asking about this guy the other day Why It doesn't say anything about him being a mini in the traditional sense Who knows Rachel Armstrong

1:39:11She's on the list Ben Bishop he's on the list toxin They made the list Danny limelight The dark chic Bad dude Tito at 409 Grayson Waller Oh my god for 10 action and ready Follow by Pedro Portillo the third This is all over the place. Let's I'm still scrolling down. There's a lot of pages here to scroll Inteniant has grow at 464. Does this past the name test Jim? Lou Nixon Oh Nixon Here's Hayden backland at 461 Hayden backland Dante Casanova Beast man. I know that guy. Hello beast man Domino not to be confused with WWE alum Davido a different one. Oh boy. There's some pictures in here. Let's go down

1:40:13Here we are number 500 Sydney Bacabella His secret weapon brass knuckles He's the sleazy self-professed former member of the WWF Hall of Fame Is mainly a manager but is endeavored to reclaim in ring glory Retain the Dave's hot chicken title Against Tommy Dreamer Had lied pro wrestling And he won the king of create a pro battle royal Oh boy Wow, that's a priced Tommy Dreamers in a king of the hot chicken title What the fuck Well, you know, Brian Wow, there's the comprehensive list right there the 500 top wrestlers in the industry. I wonder I wonder if our friends at prize picks are taking any action

1:41:17On on these lists when they come out every year. Can you know they're on top of every other sports and all the big Happening's the football is back now They're doing the football thing again And prize picks is all over that and given great deals and all this stuff. I wonder do they have the more or less pick on Will your cousin Claude Being the top 200 pro wrestlers just because lack of pro wrestlers this year Some kind of action like that. What do you think? I don't know why bet on Claude when you could bet on mr. Elegans at 495 Mr. Elegans or J at 486 just J Well as a matter of fact what you could do is you could pick Instead of picking two to six players like at a football game and then picking more or less on their projected stats like Passyards rush yards or fantasy score Well, what you could do is you could pick how many names Is this stupid son of a bitch gonna have

1:42:18More or less on four names or six names It just depends on how many names they have You think they do that over at prize picks if we downloaded the prize picks app today Brian If we made it urgent that's right to right now to download the prize picks app would we find Information like that or this time. I'm hijacked at the spot. We got to talk about 472 Jim Horus the Duke of death That's a great name Horus Duke of death if we if we did download the prize picks app would we be able to pick more or less people that Horus has has presented over their death Because it now hit here's the thing also if we do we pick more or less like in terms of Does a Duke outrank account, but he's not as good as a prince But and the kings on top of everybody, but where is a goddamn duchess in all of this When was the last time we had a wrestler named lord

1:43:19There was lord little brook. There was lord Alfred Hayes. There was lord Layton. There was lord Stephen Regal Lord James blears and then eventually no more no more lords You know, that's why because it it got to that it was too controversial Because some people don't believe in the lord They believe in the ladies And bread prize picks you can pick more or less on how many ladies you believe in I think can't you think I don't think I don't think you could do that But what could you pick a girl just walk into the street and then say I believe that she would take care of more or less than two to six players That's not at the more or less. No No Just depends on what you know about her personally Jim 473 CPA self-described self-described accountant wrestler And it seems like that CPA would know because he's all about the numbers how to work the prize picks and and did you know that if CPA was right now to download the prize picks app

1:44:20He would get a hundred and fifty dollars in lineups instantly If he just won his first little teeny weenie meager little five dollar lineup If he used the promo code JCE So that's what he could do and then he would be a CPA with all kinds of Emoe and EY Yeah, he wouldn't be stuck on the pw 500 like Solomon Tupu at 468 or Bam, Bam Kwabay at 469. I'm assuming that's how you say it's Q-U-A-A-D-E Well, hey, well, he's the cousin of of Sa'day the singer. He's a Danish mainstay Let me ask you this can we pick more or less on vowels in a guy's name at prize picks I don't you can say what is that stupid son bitches name and then you could pick whether he's got more or less than five to six vowels in it I don't know

1:45:21It's a good question for number 449 abdula kobayashi Abdula kobayashi And let me ask you this suppose that your your prize picks fan in the family was once a native of japan And was a fan of abdula the butcher and then named his little japanese son of dola kobayashi And then wanted to pick More or less on their projected stats that's why he downloaded the prize picks app and use the promo code jce To get a hundred and fifty dollars in those line-up Sinstantly after he won his first five dollar lineup Which translated to seven hundred and forty seven thousand yen That's how he was able to run the game on prize picks because he ran his game and they ran theirs and He won his and they paid him theirs Price picks prize picks at 448 eric surge, but once again prize picks gym

1:46:22Jiric surge But what about vick vomit at 497 this Leo sparrow at 450 Alpha zo at 444 and trailamar at 443 Where did where did where did Lamar odum and Leo say or come in I'm not exactly sure Steve carina at 430 is he wrestling anywhere? I didn't know that I don't think you have to be to be on this list I think you have to be on the k and h list as having bought tights. Oh my god 435 jd McDonough Oh cut what in the world Hey piss somebody off at least he's employed. He's at 435. Guess. There's a 430. Oh my god 430 Steven Borden Ha ha ha ha how's that possible He didn't he didn't have a match until August Unless you're counting the indie matches we did see and didn't hear anything about which couldn't have been that many so

1:47:23He's a bug jd McDonough on the list wow All right, well once again prize picks gym. Yes, one last time what can the listeners do Well, you download the prize picks app and then you use the code jce and you're gonna get a 150 dollars in lineups if you win your first five dollar lineup And that's the way that people get rich in the United States of America prize picks run your game prize picks All right, well nevertheless we are now going to another branch of sports in the world we're like the wide world of sports Brian covering the globe and There's a Series now on vice called dark side of the cage because as everybody knows when dark side of the ring became their number one show over there All of a sudden you got dark side of the 90s dark side of the cage dark side of reality TV dark side of the moon You got dark side of everything

1:48:24They just they don't have a gym cornette in those respective fields. I think that's why these shows have not eclipsed dark side of the ring in popularity But dark side of the cage is stories of The guys in MMA and notness not just UFC, but the wide world of MMA and We think the wrestlers are fucking nuts some of these guys are off their goddamn rockers but the specific reason I wanted to talk about The one they aired this past week on our show was because there's a wrestling connection and A set of a bitch wouldn't you know who win the pony Or who didn't win the pony? They didn't mention the wrestling business in an entire documentary hour long piece on Chail Sonnen Who was inspired by the wrestling business

1:49:24And I even told you I told you to watch it because I said Well, you know they got a Maybe they'll have some wrestling footage or he'll talk about Lynn Denton the grappler or Portland wrestling or whatever And I've I'm not disparaging the Chail in this it but I don't know whether he talked about it. They didn't include it Or if he wasn't specifically asked but the whole episode Was titled becoming the bad guy And what of the pivotal moments at his career was when he was just a A shy retiring young guy and suddenly he got the big title match and This was you know after he had had you know not very much success in the in the business And Then he adopted the personality of the bad guy and he went from the introvert who didn't stand out Back to the UFC and got the title match and a blah blah blah

1:50:28And he made the most of it by cutting promos. He did a wrestling gimmick He was cutting wrestling promo shit talking And it was it was just like he just Had this epiphany to do this and none of his Influences and I'm again, I'm not trying to because Chail has talked about it to past I've had over the years past emails back and forth with him talked to him on a phone for a number of times He always talks about wrestling So I don't think it's a big secret that's his His fucking one of his catchphrases Pete me if you can that's the grappler. He's talked about Lynn Denton. So did were you as deflated as I was not to At least they didn't explore this root cause of what got him over his promos

1:51:29Well, I was surprised I didn't mention it at all because it is something that is public knowledge something that's well known Something that could literally get the grappler if they wanted to for a quick second to say his catchphrase Talk about where Chail got his catchphrase um You know, I think that was Disappointing, but I also just think in general it kind of It told the story pretty well of Anderson Silva and Chail Sonnet and then they're like All right, we have more time. What's filling some other stuff and yeah And here was another thing that happened and the video of him at the hotel They played the same video over and over and over again at a point where I was like I feel bad just stop playing this video But that that was the thing they started the program out with people commenting on him Kater was on here and his trader Matlinland and Various people would say nobody's as good at selling a fight as Chail Sonnet He's the greatest trash talker. He loves to be the bad guy

1:52:31That was the thing early on In the UFC and mixed martial arts in general it they they hit that point Where it was kind of like in the wrestling business of a hundred years before that's why you say suddenly MMA was the wrestling business from a hundred years ago and they're just evolving on fast forward because of modern media But the early mixed martial arts athletes and the fighters they either They were either trying to be sportsman and didn't approve of trash talk because that would demean the sport You know that type of serious athlete or They were just boring fucking people with no personalities in large part and If Obviously early on there was a pro wrestling influence With severed and shamrock and etc. But When Chail started doing this which was what 20 years ago a little bit more

1:53:38A lot of the guys really got mad Because they didn't understand the concept of a work. I don't know whether The modern day MMA and UFC guys understand really All the aspects of working and what wrestling is but I think they they figured out Cutting promos Conor McGregor Said that he was influenced by Chail Sonnen But at that point they were legitimately getting mad And of course now whereas then Dana White discouraged Over the top promos because he didn't want people think it was fake or as bullshit or Harm their regulation, but now how What the fuck more can you do 20 years later these guys say and do everything and commit every crime and Are charged with every offense and say every fucking Crazy as thing, but at this point in time He was legit. It was like Oli and Frazier when Frazier never forgave Oli

1:54:40For the biggest payoff Frazier ever got Because Oli knew how to Sell the fight and poke the bear, but if he to smart and Frazier up Frazier wasn't a good enough actor to react to it properly So that to me was another one of these missed opportunities That they had here to cover that These fucking guys that Chail was making mad that we're gonna beat him up They didn't know he was fucking making a more money that he was working to build a fucking fight You see what I mean Yeah And Silva eventually figured it out and he started cutting promos back And I don't I don't even know whether he figured it out as much as he thought that that Chail was playing mind games And he'd he'd play the games with him, but I don't know that they that any of them ever connected it to you dumb shits were making money here But that's wouldn't wouldn't Chail said he went to A Sports psychologist after he'd been released and lost early in his career in a blah blah blah

1:55:46And he said we are who we pretend to be And he you know picked up on that but You know he was the only guy that really wanted at that point to be a heel And then the problem was He could never win the big one. They go win the big one And He beat up Silva for five rounds and tapped out close to the end and what was it like 300 strikes to Silva's 64 but then boom And then he has had a History as they say of getting popped for steroids, but Big about a Chail son and for any of the fighters if you notice all the old fighters. It's not It's like a old fucking Jackie Gleason movie half a moral punch drunk or whatever or weren't great communicators to begin with But he has become a commentator and is still kept his faculties and

1:56:48He's always got a loophole. He's always got an explanation. He's always got a way to get out of something They popped him for steroids and he said well, I disclosed it. I'm on Testosterone replacement therapy See everybody everybody ought to just be taking our sponsors instead of doing the chemical shit because you can get in trouble for that Eddie told the doctor, but they said there's there's always a loophole somehow And then he got into real estate. Did you love this story? Well, I got into real estate. I needed some other income and I didn't really know what I was doing so I filled out some forums and committed 11 felonies But I did really understand that I was doing that what the In the FBI told him that he had confessed and was guilty of money laundering Uh, it's something that

1:57:50He almost gets out of things. There's there. There's a gray area that he brings up And then did you catch the I swear to fucking God He did my old midnight intro and they still didn't say anything about wrestling What he said feast your eyes and fantasize what of his onstage promos. That was my midnight express introduction From fucking 85 Anyway, uh He got a rematch and got beat again And Randy couture is like well, does he doubt himself he because he He has doubt from his relationship with his father or whatever the fuck but he kept getting knocked out every time he get a big fight or just Or failing a drug test and admitting it But then he beat up the civilians in the hotel in Las Vegas and

1:58:50Did it sound to you like that he had just had a fight with two other guys. It was really pissed off and suddenly he barges Passed this couple in the hallway and slaps you guys drink out and the gas says something to him when he beats him up That's what it sounded like to me. Yeah, I'm not exactly sure uh What happened it sounded like he'd definitely beat a few people that Didn't sound like that and again, he looked pretty sloshed when they arrested him sloshed he said he was ambiant Which is a perfectly same effect perfectly legal type of thing to uh But he he said he signed NDAs that he can't talk about Yeah, if you'd yeah, but anyway, it was charges for the honor that was his excuse. He was defending his honor charges were dropped He signed some NDAs can't talk about it Uh and

1:59:51Yeah, basically that was the the bottom line of the whole thing Is that he taught him that promo cell fights and chale Created backstories to this shit so he'd have something to talk about and that's Kind of out of the wrestling playbook, but now they've If they haven't figured it out in the UFC in Oli MMA. They've just started doing it anyway I had a lot of ground not covered here And underwhelming what was there was good. I thought chale's great at telling a story But underwhelming the usual Not needed reenactments. They were kind of ridiculous here the one where he was Throwing cereal whatever the fuck was happening there Well, and they do because they've stolen the whole gimmick the the dark side of the ring gimmick They they're doing reenactments with shift that they have video probably in some cases I did hear

2:00:51That the Don Fry one was really good. I know there's a wrestling connection there But I did hear from a few people that Don Fry one was good Well, and I actually saw that and was going to remark about it and we got busy there because that was a couple of weeks ago But there's more wrestling footage in that Because he was a wrestler than there is in this one, but uh, yeah, he it don't presume. I hope there is I actually don't know but no there there is there is there. I saw it. Okay. What I'm saying to you I saw that a few weeks ago And then we got busy and I didn't talk about it And I forgot about it like you forgetting that I just said that Well another then yeah, he had a sad sad but he's okay now Even though he's in tremendous pain Well, he is but he's he's he seems happy with smiling When they talk to him so that's always good smiling through the pain And

2:01:52So anyway, I understand Brian moving along from topic to topic That our friend are a manual who is now knows every single important human being in the world and has been there at the critical juncture of every Happen stance and apparently has more money than God and the federal government these days He's on the book tour. I saw him last week on the daily show with John Stewart I only watch Mondays because Boy howdy is a John Stewart is a genius and then The rest of the week they let the amateurs come in for open mic But he was doing an interview didn't mention a word about the wrestling business. He's selling his book And talking about all the big stars he knows and everything But I understand that the book contains some Candid quotes as they used to say about What he really thought about Vince and or what was really going on when they were trying to get rid of Vince and

2:02:59Dare I say might even lend more credence to that they just kind of They zoomed as fucking 80 year old declining billionaire if can in a confused mental state and obviously Highly test-toster-owned They kind of zoomed him out of his fucking company Olauri and Nick Khan and everybody from the way it's looking to me But isn't that how karma works? Karma chameleon if ever there was one It but this this was a whole new Hollywood finally realized That we can make billions with this wrestling scam and This guy is losing his marbles and He's got issues And we can play on this and we can all get ourselves. He's a hundred million dollar year jobs We have some quotes here. This is from the book roll the calls a memoir by Aria manual

2:04:03Page 399 is other stuff in here about Vince, but I don't have those pages where he talks about How he first signed Vince and brought them the spike TV and how Vince bragged about putting all his competitors out of business and Maybe we'll find that quote later So we sit down and pull the story apart and put it back together and try to simplify the theme Make it into a yarn wall street wants to hear We spend months at this task The trouble is we keep getting blindsided by other stories Particularly one lurid gothic tale a scandal that engulfs my client and friend Vince I Was that Wimbledon when the Wall Street Journal dropped its first bombshell report Vince making secret payments to several women to settle harassment suits I stared at my phone then did something I never do

2:05:05slipped it into my pocket The rest of the match I didn't look at the thing once But I felt it in there like some tiny animal wiggling buzzing chirping People asking if I'd seen the story asking what it meant for the company for me Truth was I didn't know and now months later I still don't As I walked out of Wimbledon Vince called and assured me the charges were false But he also said he was going to step down for the good of the company His daughter whom I've always remembered fondly from our first meeting would take over A short time after that however Vince changed his mind and took back the company What a mess Such a mess in fact Then I can see only one solution

2:06:06And Shapiro and I have been steadily pitching that solution events Vince old buddy Sell us your company wow Let me stop there real quick because they were like Voters on a fucking fence post just perched and waiting for the goddamn domino to fall That would put this thing in enough turmoil at a Well, we'll step in and fix all of this and If only it hadn't have been for that anonymous person that alerted the media about this Genille grant business based on being an anonymous board member or whatever the fuck Whoever that may have been it's certainly benefited Are you manual and his various Nikon subsidiaries? Bit of fit at Nikon Someone alerted the board and then someone alerted the Wall Street Journal

2:07:10Knowing everything the board was up to Yeah Amazing well, let's let's go back to this yes, we're on page 400 now The idea is the merge vince's wrestling empire with UFC Creating one giant mega organism Vince can stay on as sort of a chairman emeritus We get him into a room show him all the things we've learned from UFC The knowledge that we could bring to bear We talk about running his company, but it's more about saving the company Because the whole enterprise is teetering Vince who's having all manner of health problems Seems not to fully understand Please stop there This is his friend so he talks about how he plotted to get the company from and then he talks about oh by the way He has health problems up the gazoo I don't know if that's come out publicly anywhere. We've assumed well. It's kind of been yeah, it's been visible but

2:08:17I spend months negotiating with Vince WWE is his baby and I know he can't be rushed out of respect out of a desire not to spook him I proceed with delicacy and yet after each call or meeting I put delicacy aside I get invents his grill Lower my voice and give it to him straight He's in his 70s He's damaged his health His brand with his own bad choices Wow, where is best option Possibly his only option Let's stop there again This is like one of those This is like one of those commercials trying to sell senior citizens gold by basically you know Things are gonna fall apart and you'll need to barter for your family safety He was scaring the old frail billionaire

2:09:20Where your only chance Vince? Yeah, it doesn't answer that why Only chance why because there were other people bidding You know Tony Kong was the low bit at like six billion liberty media. There were other people bidding Now no one else is gonna put Vincent charge No, but the thing is but it was to this was decided before people bid This was decided when when they put it up for sale this deal was already done They just had to make it look good. That's what he's telling Vince. Oh this shit's coming out And a blah blah blah and you got all the scandal. It's gonna kill your business You know, we got to take it over Vince. We get you got to you know, that's what he's doing here The negotiations are always friendly but also Madden mad endingly slow. It's a hard word to do when you actually see it there But also maddeningly slow. I can't fucking do it Maddeningly slow mad and in least

2:10:22But also maddeningly slow No, no, that's not it maddeningly slow god damn it You know what I mean people I like to get in and get out of everything especially meetings And my assistant no especially meetings My typical meeting last 15 minutes Vince likes to kick back go over the finer points again Tell some stories. Yeah tell some more stories. Yeah gosh is it midnight already? Let's order some more food Ha ha ha with much breath work and visualization and mediation Excuse me and meditation I get through this gauntlet of interminable meetings and eventually find myself standing in the private room of a swanky restaurant Shapiro is there Some exec from WWE is there some exec from WWE who's that

2:11:25And we're all watching Vince pick up a pen and hover it over the dotted line Hi, yay, yay Vince leans forward leans back Has a few words he wants to say first He talks about the great pleasure. He's had it knowing me Being ripped by me and the feeling of trust and affection he has and handing over his company To me He's emotional and then I get emotional and I give a speech about watching wrestling with my grandfather Which of course makes me think of my dad Makes me think of how everything comes full circle Everything is a circle Even wrestling matches take place in a circle Wrestling shows I tell everyone is writing style takes us around in circles Or how I quelled my anxiety as a kid Focused my mind before I knew my mind was different

2:12:28And now I'm going to run wrestling And it's a point of tremendous pride And then it's time Vince lowers the pen He signs I sign We all hug it out The sale price is roughly 9 billion Afterward we eat a nice meal And Shapiro and I go forth to tell the world Right, let's stop there because I was a lot That was a lot Boy he's he's smell it his own farts on his writing style, didn't he? Or did they get some ghost writer to put this floored prose together Here one last part here 401 And then Fuck More revelations The worst yet Vince accused of defecating on a woman During a threesome Incredible how many things in the world of business are undreamed of in business schools

2:13:34Wait a minute He didn't take the course and head shitting These revelations doctor Schmidlap used to have that twice every semester These revelations are on a different level Orders of magnitude more troubling than previous ones Moments after they break Shapiro calls Ari you reading this shit Yes, we gotta get him out Yes, I know all the way out of the door Ari right the fuck now No Emeritus position no involvement in the company whatsoever I know you ready Yeah Shapiro dials Vince answers right away I know what needs to be done I have clarity But I'm feeling uncomfortable So I deploy my go-to phrase Tell him mark Shapiro size Vince

2:14:34We've crossed several red lines And we're in new territory here We both wait Listening to the white noise Finally Vince says Okay Tell me what to do and I'll do it today What are your thoughts on all that? I, I, I, I, well I mean we kind of figured that's the way it was It's just Interesting hearing Specific wording from people that were involved but Good Lord I that pretty much shows that Vince is to contrary to people to try to start The rumors and the conspiracies and everything It's not like Vince is still in the running to get back in after he's been publicly Trounced in this book by the people who really do own the thing now But and you're right. I've seen another Of it not a transcription but a description

2:15:34Where that Emmanuel says that yeah Vince was telling me how that he blackmailed the cable companies to put His shows on instead of the competitors on the same nights in the 80s addressing the business and a blah blah blah Yes, well it wasn't wasn't me personally. It was Uncle Jimmy Crockett, but I'm pissed. I never got that inheritance But you know he's basically stewed you know because If this guy is in a world as he's shows every time that he named drop somebody else that he was Talking to or nuzzling up to He just owns wrestling is one of the many things that he owns and a many things that is in his world And so he doesn't care of He probably doesn't even realize The gossip that he's giving some of the wrestling fans in this book because He's a he's a big fucking deal. He's an international yacht broker. He doesn't need to worry about the wrestling gossip

2:16:37It is crazy to actually see his own words of saying that he will be the person in charge of all wrestling Like that is a thought that hit him. It wasn't just like yeah, we'll get WWE Merge what you have seen and do everything else It was I will be the overlord of wrestling And son of a gun when you know who won the pony, but that's and that's what Tony cons up against No matter what he does he has that up against him Yeah, I mean, I know Vince had Obviously some level of mental decay at his age and with all the things he's gone through and whatever and But if they outsmarted Vince McMahon the the family the son-in-law everybody And they just swooped in and took this thing as it's obvious that they did And that it's been admitted that the bidding process was just for show and that The deals were basically set up beforehand

2:17:37Langus would leave and come back and above a blah Langus Langus What the blue hell Issa but Vince got swerved out of his company by these fucking professional big world swervers and Boy howdy they really benefited from that unknown person tipping off The various board of directors and media people who could have been close enough to Vince to To make that revelation Somebody the baby that he told that he had blackmailed cable companies to it Yeah, what do you think Vince would what for the Vince you know, which is obviously long gone, but Based on what you know events what do you think Vince would think knowing this is now public in this book from the person who took his company Or but only he's happy I Definitely don't think he's happy

2:18:38I think that there's got to be an element of him now that's going you know what I whoa They fucking conned me To some extent I think he's got to figure this out and the Even in rooms with with me or with Jim Ross or Bruce Pritchard or he'd he'd never spoke Like that About what he had done in the way I blackmailed those cable companies He still even presented in meetings like just with us he would pet Patterson a room whatever that You know, it was a business decision and I explained to these people that we could generate more rev not do like gloting like I pulled something off right I think when he got old and got rich and just started to say fucking about a variety of things He wanted to finally brag about that shit to somebody especially A big Hollywood mover and shaker deal maker agent

2:19:39He's got to have some stories to Keep up with what are you manual is done? So well, let me tell you about the time I blackmailed in demand You know that seems like that's what it was or what it's been What it is what it will be Well, we'll see if there's any Blowback to any of this or if there's just more silence from Vince Who other than the Merritt Parkway incident and the general grant stuff there's no news about Vince other than Aries book no projects nothing And Vince McMahon has never historically been one that would just let Statements about him go without some type of reply, but Really the last positive thing we heard about him Was it he'd opened up that office for a company named after a street that his father's office was on I'm wonder did they

2:20:40Did they get him an office and just Give him somewhere to go and like fake paper work. Yeah like Murray Wilson a balling cabinet like Murray Wilson a board Or you could twiddle all the knobs, but it doesn't actually do anything to the music Yeah, and maybe just as he have a secretary and whatever He tells her to make calls. She just says whether they're not they're not in they'll call back or I mean what he's got the same assistance He had in WWE he hired a lot of the former if not executives a senior office staff right didn't they hire a lot of the people that Been yeah, then we hear that yeah well and and also the big What a George and Michelle he just put out a book apparently George Barrios. I got to check that out But you got to think that they're enjoying going to a goddamn Kruger industrial smoothing job where they can just sleep under the desk all day working for a company that doesn't really do anything because Vince wants to own a company What would they be doing for I assume large salaries?

2:21:43Yeah, I mean you could only work the phone so much if you don't have a project But you need something to do something for or with We would like They're just cold calling they're getting the phone book Like his sales guy I knew from WBKI TV over here. He get the phone book. He just go to out And he'd call numbers and cold call people and hey, what was it you may remember? I don't think it was rodeo But there was some kind of like Thing that I think it was I had a Philadelphia or Pennsylvania where Vince tried to buy it and the guy It came up because the guy didn't interview somewhere and just casually mentioned you have Vince McMahon Wanted to buy this but we didn't want to hand over the creative to him or we didn't want to hand over the Whatever it was if not the creative. I don't was it uh Professional Bull inseminators or something something along that line something in that genre that Vince thought okay

2:22:44We could really get it to the next level with my creative In this sport that's never had creative Oh, well, you know, that's a thing. He's all over the place could Vince. I don't think Vince took good care of himself It's a he's not like all these other billionaires that Live to be 90 and you can't get rid of him save your life He was eroding right in front of our eyes. I think the problem is he took too many supplements He was always taking the supplements and the vitamins and the ingredients and just multiple things just all over the place I don't think you need that many I don't really think and Brian tell me what you think I don't need you think you need to be taken 30 40 50 60 various pills to you rattle around Like fucking ant clairs coin purse When you can just take one supplement And just get it over with wouldn't that be easier? Doesn't that make sense to you, Brian? It sounds a lot easier. Yes

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2:30:04We recently discussed briefly on the drive through the passing of beautiful Bruce swazey Here an archival interview Brian did with Bruce swazey on his show shut up and wrestle SUA w pod.com Or look for shut up and wrestle with Brian Solomon wherever you find your favorite podcasts and of course the 605 super podcast and now I can breathe Go through the archive 605 pod.com all episodes are always available for free Go through that rich archive 605 pod.com the mothership I'm not sure I'm in favor of you breathing at this point. All right. We saved the the worst for last here That's not nice. Well, I'm not nice. They They showed a w dynamite on the on the on the television again this past Wednesday It was September 23rd is leading up to The big uh

2:31:04How far are they they're all in all out all gone. What is they ought to do it all gone? Pay-per-view Edges to open up the show and say well, we we're not gonna have any matches All gone is the all gone is the post show party Well, there you go and but anyway and This was relentless to begin with because they had two hours of dynamite scheduled followed by an hour of collision followed by a half an hour Pay-per-view you know preview show They basically they overran their first three hours they didn't end for three hours 25 minutes and then had the 30 minute fucking pre taped So they did four hours they can they overran into their own time slots. I don't know what the fuck But nevertheless I All these shows are the same these days and usually I'll go okay the these guys had a match they were about 15 minutes and then so and so one

2:32:06But for the first match on this program I actually watched it and I was actually and I'm going to critique it like it was a real match binocchio Because it was the new day involved the They have just signed one of the most popular tag teams over the past decade or however long from the WWE to come in their company And within a month they have teamed them up with a complete heel That now they're they're making jokes about in their comedy Promos they do about what a heel swerve is he has no friends They team them up with a heel To win the six-man tag team belts And I was saved within two or three weeks. They're gonna be just another fucking couple of guys on a card and They already look like they're another couple of guys on a card this match

2:33:07Was horrendous and I will tell you specifically in great granular detail why But the way the show was formatted they come on to air. They're an Indianapolis And they hit us with the non-stop billboards for this match that match the other match the other things going on I wonder if old Sock face Excalibur has a oxygen tank that he uses at ringside to keep up with this thing More like an interesting Well that would you know I wish it was what is it helium? He would he'd talk like that That would be entertaining. I wish it was helium. He would fly away That there that would be even more entertaining But they go in the back then and they've got the interviews in the back with ricochet and his Samoan stooges and then They go to Nana and swerve and the new new day And that was long because they had to do they they get the wordiness in and had to do the comedy where it was obviously scripted that

2:34:11They're asking save who was your friends before we came along here swerve Then swerve that was five minutes into the program there for the billboards and the promos Then swerve entrance new day entrance ricochet and stooges entrance and they have a match for the six-man tag team title Where whoever wins this match and retains the title or wins the title will then face Bro Dildo and page at the pay-per-view in three days So the just Anyhow they ring the bell and like I said I was going to watch this match critique it like it's real match because these guys are involved and we know That cofee and creed can work if they couldn't they wouldn't have made it 15 years of the WW or whatever they can do the moves without It reasonable risk that a buys going to be injured they know the rules of tag team wrestling or they would have been

2:35:16instructed them Where they've been previously employed there They were in attraction and they had curiosity coming in because the way that they left they had septi or sentiment from the fans because they were wrong So they got a lot of good shit they could fucking Use with these guys And and like I said their work is fine, but what What they're doing here is because Tony is obviously paying them a lot of money because else wise If he wasn't they wouldn't have left where they were when they were offered half of what they were getting We assume that Tony's given him what they were getting and that barely was a lot of money So they want to prove that they can do what the cool kids do And They can do all the the funny spots and the fun spots and the tricks and everything And I understand that they got to earn all this money by playing with the you know the the kids

2:36:20But also they're making a mistake that ftr. I used to mention they made it a lot where they are making shit complicated enough that they're not judging the The level of their opponents to follow Because the two Samoan guys I think bishop con is the younger one or not the younger but the smaller one He has some potential But he's just another guy in the shuffle around here And the big guy is strong, but I To quote Ernie Lada the boy ain't got it. I don't think And so they're trying to act like that these guys are the normal opponents that they're going to be Experienced and keep up with whatever they're doing and it ain't Never the last do you do you have any comments? I've just thrown down before I Pick this fucking thing apart. No, I'm enjoying listening to this I'm a little surprised that of all the things on this show the last several weeks that this was the thing

2:37:22You decided to hone in on so this is a pleasant surprise. Oh, I don't know about pleasant, but it is surprising A so ricochet and swerve started and of course they They started trading the punches and they'd sold like the first one and then they started throwing them faster And forgot to even sell or register because they were in the middle of going into their parkour And they did a lot of that and then the the cofee and creed the guys they got in boom Did some things like said they could work then The first major incident and this is why it at At some point I couldn't stop watching because I wanted to see what was next, but this was early on Creed and cofee do a double team spot on Bishop con boom and a planning and middle of the ring and then cofee jumps up And he goes to do the spot. You're gonna know what I'm talking about If you watch this thing If you didn't blink and miss it But Where the guy runs to the ropes to hit the ropes to come back and do something

2:38:26But the heel is outside and jumps up and pulls the rope down And the guy instead of hitting the ropes he goes backwards Out of the ring over the ropes, right? Did you see this spot? I did yes Well, ladies and gentlemen in 50 years No, 55 years of watching wrestling. I've never seen it done this way because Cofee went ran to hit the ropes and ricochet The most experienced one of the bunch of them Was on the outside it was supposed to jump up and pull the rope down And he did he jumped up and pulled the metal rope down while cofee was going backwards over the top rope And it had looked to that like he just ran to the ropes and just committed suicide Back flipping over the fucker rope on purpose Quallers is stupid little bald head admitted hanging off the second fucking rope

2:39:30I've made 50 something years. I have never seen that mistake made I think I may have seen it intentionally Tiger Jackson versus a little Louie One of their classic matches It it it just I don't so a point being And ricochet also here's something it wouldn't have worked anyway if he'd got to right rope because he was pulling with one hand And he don't weigh on her 75 pounds does he And he's pulling with one hand and he was three feet from the turnbuckle he could have hung From his fucking neck on it and not pulled it down far enough to Do that spot And me and Robert Gibson used to do that spot in midnight rocket roll matches because who could take a heck of a dead run He could just turn and hit and spin backwards over that top rope to the floor But you've got to grab it with both hands and you've got to be in the middle

2:40:30And so we did so we didn't get flummoxed up the way that he took the bump I would have to be slightly He'd have to be on the right of me I would jump up to the left of the center of the top rope just to the left and grab it And the way that he spun over on the bump he would go a little bit to the right so he would go just right over and past me and Boom and there it was but you can't pull the fucker rope down with one hand three feet from the turnbuckle. It's got so Anyway Then but here's the deal then they pulled the fucker rope on this guy That's the way you stop the baby face for the heat No, they just that was fine and then they got the heat on creed So Kofi just had to fucking get up and stagger back over to his quarter And then They're getting the heat on creed And at one point his guys

2:41:32Are doing so he wanted one of his guys whoever it was had a cover and getting a two count He's flexing on the turnbuckle and taunting the fans because I think he likes taunting the fans because they Say such devastating shit to him on every piece of social media But he's distracting from his own fucking team getting heat ease of fucking idiot If his partners had any experience they'd be pissed that their partner doesn't know any more than what he knows And they went to a break and They come back swerve and Kofi are just on the floor selling and they're getting heat on creed again In a lot of cases They will in a six-band tag match. They'll just have two of the guys into ring and the other four We'll be laying in various places on the floor just laying there waiting for their next queue There's no continuity to a match at a contest and you want to root for one side and

2:42:34Hope the other side doesn't get the advantage. It's just who's on stage to do their tricks So And then sometimes it's got again, they can kind of shoot around it On television would guys are just sitting on their ass on the floor watching what's going on in the ring for no reason They could be up on the apron in their corner, but the building sees it And then at one point ricochet ever they've been beaten creed up ricochet shot creed off to the ropes and creed just dove over the top rope Instead of hitting it and landed on the other heel that was out on the floor And in the other heel knocked creed over the top of the desk so that everybody Ever become home people now everybody dive now They all dove out to the floor and then Suddenly they gave a doomsday device to swerve off the railing around the ring to the floor

2:43:38But then that's forgotten later because then they just got back in the ring And I think Creed kicked ricochet and knocked him goofy, but then Went for the tag to cofee and he was milking it from one foot away for too long like I can't reach you Nobody's stopping him these 12 inches and then he got it And then Kobe made her come back And that's where he tried Oh she cried When I was talking about you're calling this quick-paced shit complicated shit guys can't keep up with it He did the deal we tried to run up to the top rope and jump off backwards And turn around and do a Flying hurrah can rana on I came ever which one of the stooges it was But I think it was the big one. I don't know But to point is he missed him because the guy was either too close or too far of the rider whatever

2:44:38Instead of head says or maybe he went right past him And he almost turned it into a fly and bulldog because that's got away grabbed to go on the way down But Since the guy knew it was supposed to be a herk and rana He let fucking cofee fall in a heap in front of him and then just did a forward flip on top of it and then Con and Leonie at least when they're together I know which is which they double teamed cofee a couple of times in front of Aubrey who was just A standing there letting them do it waiting to count to cover But when When they were finished beating cofee up and they covered him and she counted it creed came in to make a save And cofee rolled out and creed stayed in and they started fucking Who's legal And the heels at one point the heels were tagging in an out of it to baby faces weren't

2:45:40Then They threw creed over the top row and they started double team and cofee again and Aubrey was just staring and posing At the heels double team in the baby face He she's got the leg cocked out or she has an arm bent up in one way or it's like She's a traffic cop. I don't what to fuck At that point Ricochet was on the floor next to one of the baby faces So what did he do he rolled into the ring Ran to the far side of the ring hit the ropes ran back and dove over the top rope To dive onto the guy that he was just standing next to he could have just kicked in the balls What the fuck with that date This is just an excuse to do stunts And then Then the studious were kicking the shit out of the guys at Tony's paying a million dollars a piece or more to

2:46:46And then cofee tagged swerve He had to cut Swerve did some shit at a hundred miles an hour, but the big one no sold his shit But then swerve for 50 splashed him And then tagged cofee back, but the big one stopped cofee immediately So creed came back in with no tag and started doing some spots with him and Took cofee's place And then that he rolled out the other one came in and then they just ran to mortar they were just coming in and doing things And then all three of the baby faces covered the big rotten one at the same time and Aubrey counted it the fucking midget spot They've got their former world champion And guys that that he's got a couple million dollars a year wrapped up in minimum And they're doing midget spots to beat these fucking guys in this mess of a match

2:47:51And it's not over But that's only we're only 26 minutes into the show having seen nothing else, but these vagrants And then the music played and here came bro dildo more baby faces because they're gonna have another Baby face six man tag match after I just asked you Brian. Did you how long did you watch wrestling before you ever saw one And the fans were just staring And then Page old hang nail congratulations you guys hey new day glad you're here But you don't realize who you've gotten involved with that's a loaded statement They don't realize who they've gotten involved with but they will And then page is ask a swarve your your team and with these guys now and There's heat between them, but the new day are telling

2:48:55the Page and Brody King and dipshit his friend Hey, we since we've been here. Swarves been cool as he could be and Brody King's life's only good line and old thing. He's better three weeks And so they're They're talking about the booking loopholes like Oh And then page is telling swarve or telling the new day the swerve is gonna show them who he really is And the books and jet speed left him and New day will too and blah blah blah And then Brody King jumped in actually tried to promote the match, but he then he let Bandito talk and he sound like the Fucking guys in the old movies that put a cloth over the receiver to disguise their voice on the phone We corrected himself he corrected chorus and he realized I better pick up the mask and put the mic here

2:49:58And then they all stared at each other And we were 32 minutes into this show so now do you see why that I say okay new day Another investment down the old porcelain throne I mean yeah, Tony has a very unique way of bringing people in and Not getting them over capitalizing on how over they already are You would think new day it's a prime setup for something fresh in the tag team division and it probably still will be at some point But he really wants to I mean he has not put this much time into the trio's tag title And the tag division Since it was created and now it's all over this show it was 30 minutes on this show Even they had almost four hours so still I Will say the right I thought it was one of Adam Page's best promos. I've seen He actually didn't sound like pre rehearsed as bad and

2:51:01I guess if there was ever a case where that would be appropriate It's him talking about Swarov because that is one of the weird love stories in a w history Oh, what are the weirdest love stories in a w history is Gonna be the interaction between Jacksonville and Kukumanga I think but So now a jay some random observations before we get to the next Major fiasco Osprey now is picking united empire members. He's already got His friend Francisco who looks like a 12 year old kid wearing a fake bearded Halloween And now he is invited Hong Kong fooie To be in his group the world heavyweight champion the most marketable fucking baby face They've got at this point is now assembling a group of the least intimidating softest tiniest Children in pro wrestling

2:52:03To back him up What the fuck Ah They had a continental eliminator match brine of John Moxley wrestled Desmond 22 of the rascals And Moxley came in from the front parking lot where there was nobody out there And at least they had some people waiting for him what's he got in the door but What is is is is gimmick he's a vagrant that dresses in the viaduct what where did he come from he's obviously coming from There's a car or nothing else for miles He comes from his car And it makes a little more sense although it still doesn't make any sense when you just see him coming from like some part of the arena where him and his gang are Obviously doing calisthenics or whatever the hell they do But when all of a sudden we've seen several times where they've come from outside one time

2:53:05It looked like they were in an empty city one time it was daytime Just the middle of the day you see What is this guy's walking down his street dressed like that? I read it the neighborhood was my favorite Like in a neighborhood and a guy had like a privacy fence behind his trampoline next to the arena I just love that when moxley concocted this whole like badass persona gimmick Part of it was and I come in from outside Like what the fuck you know like I don't understand that part of it. I have to come in from outside I can't be in the locker room with everyone else Even my guys they have to wait for me they go because it's he's only he's dressing in a fucking like a Honda Civic There's not room for all those guys, but All right that took 14 minutes of TV time uh we talked about Darby and sting juniors promo with edge when we were just earlier to show we were discussing Alvarez and uncle Dave having a meltdown about the thing, but it was a backstage fairly

2:54:11Inoffensive piece of business They had the live interview with the three teams That are involved in what they Try trying to sell and a bill of goods as who's the greatest tag team of all time The Hardly boys FTR and edging Christian The cuckoo manga kids come out. It's still the same thing they played the music they do the pose They blow money in the air but that They ought to be burning the money if they really wanted to Show the books trademark with money, but they haven't drawn any in a long time But they blow the fake money from the cannon and the crowdsits their gun And an FTR came out and boy I thought the crowd was ambivalent about to buck a ruse until It's if there was not music playing you could god damn speak to people on the other side of the arena now with F They just buried them. I saw people pointing and laughing

2:55:13I You think it's the gas station that's higher or It's just everything. It's what they've done what they've said and what they now look like and what their track record has been and And then they play edge music and it gets a good initial pop but because it's him and cage They got to have different music edge comes part of the way out they bring that music down And they settle down when cage is music plays because he's a fucking heel That's the gimmick that he's a heel teaming with a baby face They spoke and I'm just gonna ask does Nick little nicky does he have a disability Because he spoke and it sounded like maybe as he do they still do shock treatments on psychiatric patients in California Oh, I don't know but that would explain the hairline They have a variety of thams they the clues are starting to come together and They all just knattered back and forth the fans want edge and Christian to retain the thing they don't want either of these teams to beat them

2:56:21and They did some comedy with edge cut and Christian off from talking about their mothers and then edge fired up try to sell this thing but got bleeped And said that none of them can do anything to me and Christian that hadn't been done already And then old pie face book had to jump in and remind everybody that edge Christian or as old as the hills with his line It's not 1999 anymore. Will you talk about the previous fucking Century it might be time to put a stop to specificity on the dates and then They got nose to nose then they turned around and both beat up FTR and then they fought each other But the buckaroo's went to give cash a spike tombstone Off a ladder onto the floor, but security broke it up so Little nicky jumped off the ladder on the security guards and edge and Christian beat a couple of them up

2:57:23And gave the concherto to the security guard And And nobody cared What do you think of the line because they got a lot of play online where Matt buck the one who stutters a lot when he tries to talk When he said that FTR or just the Dudley's in this situation But that was the insult that was the insult of it Because the original three-way Ladder match was edge and Christian the hardy boys and the Dudley's and It's no secret that the little buckaroo's have that's why I call them the hardly boys because they have had this fantasy in their heads that they're the second coming or the new generation hardy boys and they ain't and haven't been Edge and Christian are actually edge and Christian 30 years older and

2:58:26honestly With the successful careers that the Dudley's had after These ladder matches versus the the checkered careers that both hardies have had and the fucking highly successful careers at edge and Christian I you know For a long period that you know, you know, I don't think that being the Dudley's is the goddamn dog team in that equation But but yeah, so that's what they were trying to do, but you know The Dudley's did pretty fucking well The Dudley's did a lot better than the fucking hardly boys here to be quite honest But I guess the other point is how is that supposed to play with the average fan We supposed to leave the average AW viewer would understand that that because what why wouldn't you scratch your head? It's all for them. It's all for them. Yeah, it's to be cute for for them and for each other and and so that

2:59:28Oh, we better not Choused with the buckaroo's they'll blister us. They're witty. Yeah Anyhow moving along Speaking of moving along tamasso My boy tamasso I used like to watch him they booked him with Johnny Doyle I thought tamasso was a heel last we checked he was the psycho killer But Doyle's a heel, but he's a member of the group the heel group that Okaada is in and that's who tamasso is Wrestling at pay-per-view so Yeah, so he's got a beat one of Calis's endless supply of Middle-Card heels which he did who never win Never win And then he called old O boring out and here came Blando With the suit and a sappy hairy forgot to bring his personality And said no you're gonna do it tonight at all. He said this is what he said

3:00:32At all out you'll get you what you want And he and we'll show the world you're not on my level You're not on my level bitch. They called each other bitches. That was This fucking guy is a charisma vacuum Okaada is there is nothing Nothing there you can almost see through in me so plain Uh, then there the girls match Then osprey and his new friend spitball Ressel Gabe and Claudio again the save the some combination of the bore horseman every week And osprey and Hong Kong fooie came out dressed like their favorite video game characters Themselves You know that's what this is about look at the fucking outfit on both of them They think they're one of these video game characters and now they've got a fucking

3:01:35billionaire mark paying them enough money to hire people to make these costumes Jesus christ either that or it Bailey's may have been a just a mini skirt from his daytime job waitressing at hooters. I don't know Um, I think Gabe Sapolsky could whip Gabe kit. He quite honest. We And The plumber was on color and steamboat's daughter was in the match so I Fast forwarded to the finish Which was right at 10 o'clock And then oh god osprey was gonna talk and He's he's a baby face and he's grateful for the fans and the boys and the girls in the back He's honored to be your world heavyweight champion But as long as AEW has been alive so is John moxley So moxley seven years old And I say to moxley. I'm saying here we go

3:02:39Sell this fucking match you british twit I say to moxley. Thank you Thank you for the guidance for being the ace For breaking me And making me the man I am today What the fuck And he droned on and did nothing to sell the fucking match. He's basically groveling before The guy that was his mentor have you ever seen anything like this He's bad on the mic in general And whenever he has a good moment on the mic he usually spoils it by speaking another 10 minutes and losing the crowd But I'm just sick of this and Jenna. It's not limited to will osprey the It's another version of you know, I want you at your best. Thank you for crippling me

3:03:39Just I don't I don't like a lot of this stuff. I don't Will osprey's a horrible promo It's not well clubs his words. It's just It's he says the wrong things. Yeah, he says it's the words. He speaks the words. He's meaning to speak He just shouldn't And then moxley slowly rose and slowly he turns step by step he's sontered into the ring while the fans lightly saying Oh, leh, leh, leh, leh, leh, leh, leh, leh, in the background And he looks at osprey and he says Now that you're I'm in the ring and you're looking at me in the rig or whatever do you feel like the champion and he makes that stupid Kind of sideways puppy dog moat faced expression And then Gabe kid comes from behind but Osprey sees him and ducks him and Gabe kid pulls up short in front of moxley going whoa I didn't hit you. Yay. I'll turn around and osprey will hit him

3:04:44And osprey levels kid and then they stared at each other osprey and moxley and osprey The question was asked you feel like the champion and he's supposed to say your damn fucking or your damn right I do but he says your damn fucking right I do And they aired fuck and muted eng right I do So it's he basically said your damn fuck And that was the finale of the interview your damn fuck did he just call me a damn fuck And they were already into the second the overrun of the thing of the thing they had another more than an hour to go and I know I'm done here at this point But I just what I got into a little bit of the next hour and it started with Jack Perry doing like one of his backstage promos about Shabbata. I was like oh no Yeah, the A team for AEW action has ended. I'm done with a collision

3:05:48Well, I was that young man and I guess we're gonna come back on your show and tell the people How all this stuff worked out at at all gone they're all out That's all done. We'll have all out on the drive-through we will probably not have worlds collide I know you said you wanted to at least watch the main event apparently they're taping it I saw that but they're not putting it on YouTube until when the commentators aren't even being brought in It's all gonna be done post-production So they just ran this show against AEW to fuck with them. Hey W You know suffered the consequences. They sold out They're arena. So they're fine and then they're not even airing it live Well, but they got what did they get at the uh Wet used to be the Rose Monoraz and what is it now the all-stay to rated they got 12,000 yeah Tickets out for that so Wish I could rib people like that Could WWE have drawn that house

3:06:48Or is this specific to it being AAA in one of the hottest markets for Luchili Bre in the United States? No, this is CM Punk on the show in Chicago plus others That's why they did this we will be discussing a good deal of that Uh in the coming days. Hey, you know, there's a hell of an episode of gun smoke on right now. Matt Dylan got shot Got amnesia and now he's in love with the mom from the Walten's who you know is underrated for being miss Michael learned That's right. That's right Well in that case I need to get off here so that I can fucking jump onto me tv and follow this action But folks will be back on the drive-through to talk about this and back on the experience next week and You all know what to do in the meantime and Thank you and fuck you and bye bye everybody Yeah