Episode 4714: Tony Katz Today Hour 3 - 09/03/26

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1:11It's Tony Katz today. We are all aware that the fraud is everywhere, whether we're talking about what happened in Minneapolis or what happened in Los Angeles with hospice, the fraud is absolutely everywhere. I'm not saying Katz, Tony Katz today, an absolute pleasure to be with you. And it won't go away until we make it go away. Now we do have a fundamental issue to which we should all agree. The people not interested in investigating the fraud are the people okay with the fraud. We need to approach it like this. That when you see these states, any state including your own, where there is no interest in rooting out the fraud, those are the people who want the fraud, who appreciate the fraud, who respect the fraud, who value the fraud and value the fraudsters. And you say to me, why would they value the fraudsters? What they value is not investigating, not looking, not checking, not seeing, and not protecting the citizenry because of a fear of that other citizenry, that other group, a fear of losing

2:12their votes and a fear of what they might do next. So it's a fear of losing and then it's a fear of something else. No one will admit to the fear of something else when we take a look at Minnesota. They we know that there were elected officials in bureaucrats who looked the other way. What did they fear? Well, they feared being called racist and what did they fear? They feared what would happen from these groups? If they were to say we can't allow this fraud to continue. No one will talk about that, but the fear is a huge part of it. That fear of the physical and then the fear of being excommunicated from the party. I mean, that's just the story. That's the situation. We should also be clear that this fraud is happening in other places, including where you live, red state or blue state. The fraud is happening everywhere. We should not assume by any stretch that any state is immune.

3:13Right here in Indiana or anywhere else across the country is immune from the fraud. How are we going about it? What is it that the federal government can do? Our dollars getting cut off, $10 be returned. We still have to ask ourselves, are we getting actual care where it needs to be? Not the conversation of care, but actual care. Dr. Memadaz joins me right now. Of course, you know him as the administrator for Medicare and Medicaid services. I know you've got some announcements that are coming up. Sir, I appreciate you taking the time before we get to the announcements, which involve what's going on in the rural communities. Let's discuss what's going on in the fraud. Where are we on this in your approach to it and cutting it out? We are doing much better and for one big reason. It's sort of the same reason that we could within several months drop the number of illegal immigrants coming across the border by 90%. It wasn't that we needed to build a bigger wall or we needed congressional issues addressed.

4:17It was because the President of the United States told everybody we were going to do it. It's where the focus is, that's where the energy goes and it's where it flows. And so in the fraud area, when the President announced that the State of the Union, that we needed an all-of-government approach, we went at Treasury running down forensic accounting so that if my agency, which is Medicare and Medicaid provides clues, they can tell me where the bad guys are hiding the money overseas or Todd Blanchett, the Department of Justice, pursues every lead, not just guns and drugs, but actually the fraud where it really, really hurts our country is often in healthcare because it's white collar fraud. These criminals have come in from other areas because during COVID, we taught them that you get away with robbing the American people using our Treasury as a piggy bank. And so we are all in now. I got the big news. $42 billion we have now over the last year from leaving our building. Those are the kinds of numbers the American people need to hear because they put it in the context of how much it's going to cost you. If we can take the fraud out of Medicare, we can double the life expectancy of the Medicare

5:21Trust Fund. So all those folks who are working their tails off just trying to be able to make ends meet and they're just hoping the taxes are paying the Medicare. Resulting them having a safety net when they're retiring at $65, I got news for you. We're going to double the life expectancy when we get this fraud out and we are doing just that. When we take a look at it, I mean the lists are, it's crazy long. Los Angeles hospice issues, New York senior daycare issues. The funding of deferrals you announced over a billion dollars in Medicaid funding to Minnesota and California being paused have the pauses led to exposing of the fraud or of the pauses led to these fraudsters saying, well, they're not going to give me the money anymore. We won't even try again. You know what? You just asked the brightest question I could imagine and I had not been asked that question and you're right. That's the main reason we do the moratoriums. The reason we take these actions, we want to scare away the criminals.

6:22We know they're not going to disappear. These grifters went from drugs to gambling to crypto. They just find the latest fad. They have to. And when we do a moratorium like we did on durable medical equipment, which is the wheelchairs cap, there's those things. We have twice as many of those outfits in South Florida than McDonald's. They're run by the green government. When we put a moratorium, we drain the billion and a half dollars out of that sector. The criminals decided that's not a good place for me to be. I'm going to go somewhere else and grift. Damp if you mentioned California, we have one third of all the hospices taking care of people as they pass into the other world. One third of all the hospices in all countries are in Los Angeles, not California, LA. How many people are dying there? So we shut down about half of these settings and no one's complaining. They know we caught them. They just run off and try to go out and buy what they're opening hospices in Nevada and Arizona and Texas. So that's where you made a national moratorium now. So they can't run to the next state and get away with it.

7:23Those are the kinds of broad actions that the vice president has had at the White House and they brought task force and has been able to get us to pass throughout the entire nation. And these actions work because it's in a very clear signal, a shot across the bow. If you were to rob the American people, don't do it in healthcare. Go find some of those. Still from the IRS. Go after so security benefits. But do not walk into my building because there's a new sheriff in town. I think you're going to catch heat from saying go after the IRS. I'll let Scott Fesson go at you on that. Talking to Dr. Mehmed Oz, administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid services, you brought up the right point. And the question that people are asking once you get over the idea or are able to digest the idea of all this fraud, which is, are these states, Minnesota, California, my beloved Indiana, any state, are the states engaged in complicity with the fraud? I fear that that is happening and I'll tell you why and just put yourself in the position

8:26of a governor like the governor of California or New York is fraud really a flaw? Or is it a feature of this system? Let me explain. We have the most common job now in both those states. Is it personal care service attendant where your kids carry the groceries upstairs for you and get paid for it? Now if you're the governor and those kids are unemployed, you've got to pay them benefits. If you can get them on the Medicaid payroll for the federal government in New York, they call it medicating it, you literally get these people off your problem, off your dime, onto the federal payroll and now you're collecting taxes from the money that he paid. And here's where this jobs program causes an even bigger issue, the union get involved and they are. They're unionizing in California and New York. So now all of a sudden federal dollars are going to union coffers where they then pass it back to political action committees and they fund their candidates for gender be from one party and that is political patronage. So if you're a governor, you might think this is a pretty good idea, which is why I think

9:27some states were so interested in clamping down and even with our deferrals of money, you pointed out not billions of dollars not being paid because we can't justify that they bills are correct. Even now we're still struggling to get some of these states to cooperate. But I think there's a cross to board an understanding that governors have a responsibility. Now you have a kick ass governor in Indiana. I'm actually in Indiana today with the announcers we'll get to in a second and I went to visit Mike Brown a year ago and he appreciates that there's a major problem in Indiana with autism care, which I'm sure you've covered. And this is a problem because most autism in America is now private equity owned and they know how to gain the system. It's not illegal. They're just taking advantage of the system and trying to do as much as they can with the therapies that they think they can defend and they charge a lot of money for these therapies and they provide more hours than probably the kids could possibly use. So it's generated in Indiana a massive problem with what's called ABA therapy, which is the autism therapy. So we're cracking down on that and say that Indiana say, oh my gosh, I didn't realize

10:28it. We're all over it now because they don't want to spend tax dollars because Indiana has to pay in as well as the federal government. You'd rather spend your money on better educational programs. Talking to Dr. Mehmet Oz, he is the administrator of the centers for Medicare and Medicaid services and just to the point of fraud or feature. It's something we've discussed many times on the show when you elect bad people, when you elect people who don't view the United States as many of us do. You realize that the socialism is not a bug. It is a feature and the bad things that come about from it is indeed a feature. But let's move into this announcement that you're making and yes, we have seen fraud with autism and autism centers here in the state of Indiana. You've got the notification that money is coming to the state of Indiana and coming to rural areas through something called the RHTP, the rural health transformation program. Now you've got Indiana in your sites for today, but this is something expanding everywhere. Is this about providing actual care or is this about providing the ability to find the

11:34care wherever it may be? Are you going to the people or are you helping the people come to where the care is? It's both and it depends on what the state needs. Alaska has very different needs than Indiana. And so we want the governors to have the money and to use it with their teams to figure out the best way of improving the quality care. Let's get the bigger issue. rural America has a life expectancy and that's almost three years shorter than urban America. Your zip code should not dictate your destiny. We all deserve to get access to care. And so the president and Congress designed to put $50 billion into rural health care. To give it to governors, that's $50 billion over five years. So every state like Indiana competed for the money, Indiana did very well. You're getting $207 million a year for the next five years. 120 million of that today ships out with Governor Braun saying where it's going to go. So we gave the money after the high quality grant application of Indiana at the new year.

12:35Now Indiana is able to pass it out. All the money is going to be out by October. You're spending money on the two million folks in Indiana out of the seven million total living in rural parts of the state. And these are very clever ways of allocated money, telemedicine, getting big hospitals who work closely with small clinics, making sure that if folks need to have access to care, you can focus on their issues and get them to the highest quality doctors. Even either in person, bring them there or you meet them where they are often in pharmacies, for example. There's also very thoughtful ways that we can help with obstetrics and pediatric care, which are two areas where we're really concerned in Indiana. So the state decided how to allocate the money. But to get them high level, we're putting 200 plus million dollars a year in the Indiana every year for five years. You don't put that kind of money 50% more than we've ever spent in Indiana for Medicaid by just hoping it works. You don't just pay bills about money. You transform this system. Now I want to see better results, but this is where we get into the argument where people

13:38will talk about we need the Bernie Sanders of the world, right? We need free healthcare. We need universal healthcare. Well, there's a big difference between claiming healthcare and actual care. So the question on this is, we're now putting this money in, this larger amount of money, where does one see the result of the care? How does it practically get applied? So I'll give you very concrete examples. In Indiana, there's not going to be a statewide 24-7 medical operations coordination program. If you have an emergency, so it's going to be a very quick way. In fact, if you need local resources from now on, you can use the Indiana program that already exists. You dial 211 and they will connect local residents, rural residents to local resources so they can find out what's actually near them and available to them. And when we have gaps, Indiana is telling the bigger institutions to adopt these smaller clinics to help them get better at taking care of kids and children, et cetera. And there's about 450 rural healthcare facilities in the state. They're all being connected now to the information system because what ends up happening is

14:41the big hospitals do better because they have high quality information technology, newest devices, the best ideas for cancer care, et cetera. That wisdom should pass freely seamlessly to the smaller clinics. You shouldn't have to travel to Indianapolis to get basic care for a metabolic problem. You ought to get it close to home. When you do that, you also help the local institutions stay viable so you don't have hospitals closed down because they can't make ends meet by getting all this together. And think about purchasing. If you buy your stuff on your own with a small little clinic, you pay a lot. If you buy your medications as part of a large consortium with all the hospitals in Indiana, you get through purchasing pricing. These kinds of things let the Dallas stretch further and then you can measure outcomes. Do we change the staff that I just gave you? Will rural folks in America, Indian in particular, live the same duration of joyful life so they can swap their kids down the aisle as folks in urban America? That means success. Dr. Mementoz, the administrator for Medicare and Medicaid services. I appreciate you taking the time to be with us answering the questions being a part

15:45of what we do over here. It's spoken to him on the morning show wanted to bring this to you right here right now. Here are the answers directly from the guy. We'll get him here and we'll go in depth even more in the future. Find everything I do at TonyCats.com. Keep it right here everybody. This is TonyCats today. Have you ever thought about the difference between paying rent and owning a home? When you rent, your monthly payment helps cover the cost of living there. But it usually doesn't build anything for your future. Home ownership is different. Each payment you make on a home may help build equity, which is the value you own in the property over time. At that equity grows, it can become a financial asset that may support your long-term goals. You can get a home can also provide stability. You have a place that shores where you can build memories, establish roots, and truly make the space your own. And the good news is that many people are surprised to learn there are programs designed to help first-time home buyers get started, including grants and assistance programs that may help

16:49with downpayments or closing costs. Learning about your options is the first steps we're making in an informed decision about your future. Visit toolsforhomeownership.com So what's the update on Iran? There's no real update on Iran except that the talk has grown. I mean, you haven't heard Israel on this subject in a while, and now all of a sudden it's the defense minister, Israel cats, no relation. I mean, I guess somewhere there could be a relation, but none that I know of. And he's saying that Israel would return Iran to the stone age if it attacks. What are we doing? Why even say the words? Does anybody need to hear that? You'll note that Iran has done everything but attack Israel. One wonders whether that's the thing they're gearing up for when they believe all is lost because these economic sanctions are indeed working.

17:51Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, thanks guys for being here. Good to be with you. Love having this opportunity. An Iranian attack on the state of Israel would free Israel from any existing limitations on attacking Iran. We would cripple all of Iran's national military to civilian infrastructure, including energy infrastructure, and we would send Iran back to the stone age and darkness. Yeah, we know. I don't even know why you feel like you'd have to wait. I mean, this is the equivalent of saying, hit me. Go on, hit me. Oh, man, just take a swing at me. I'd love it if you take a swing at me. That's the dumbest start of a fight in the history of mankind. You see that some guys all the time. What are you going to do about it? What are you going to do? I swing at me. I dare you. I dare you to swing at me. What in the world? You want a swing at a dude? Prepare. Be ready for it to go to the end. Be ready for it to be bloody. Be ready for yourself to get hurt. Someone's taunting you and going at you to swing at them. That is a beta male cuck loser of the highest order.

18:53You want a swing at a guy? You don't have to wait for permission. Some swing go. The goding, gone, gone. Swing at me. Try me. What are you going to do? You know, swing me? Go ahead, swing at me. I wish you a swing. I would love it if you would swing at me. Like they need permission. Bunch of cowards. Someone's causing you a problem and you feel you got a knock him out. What are you waiting for them to do something? They've already done the thing that has got you in the place where you want to knock him out. Just knock him out. You're all tough. You're all man. And Israel take the Iranians unquestionably. In my view, especially now, considering everything that Israel and the United States just did to Iran. Of course, it's easier now. But don't sit there and brag about it. And you'll note that Iran has not done anything with Israel because they don't want the smoke. They don't want the heat. So that's why they hit Bakrane and Kuwait and all these other places. By the way, they did hit Kuwait and Bakrane just the other night.

19:55And that's why these nations are like, forget Iran. We're so much better off without them. We don't necessarily like the Israelis, but we'll do some trade with them. You bet. Anything is better than these Iranian losers. These Islamist losers, and they are Islamist losers and they should be called Islamist losers every single day. But now the threat stuff is just dumb. But I do note that it's different. Israel hasn't said a word in months, except to say, no, we don't like this Gaza plan. No, we don't like that plan, right? They've said that twice, which Trump had to know it was coming. A legend conversation between Trump and Netanyahu, where Trump's like, dude, you just got to calm down. Netanyahu has his own political issues. By the way, I'm the guy who said he'll be gone once this war is over, that he is still there, unbelievable to me, unbelievable to me. But I, that you're hearing this now, it almost makes me think that they know something is

20:59up. They know that there's a shift within the regime. They know that there's beyond cracks, irreparable cracks between the IRGC and the so-called leadership. And they know that something's coming and this is all just a gearing up. This is about getting everybody set. Now I don't think that often requires some kind of ridiculous statement as you get from the Defense Minister of Israel, Israel cats, that's his name, no relation. But all this talk makes me think something's coming. Keep it here. This is Tony Katz today. I was watching a clip of our friend Noah Rothman of National Review who we have on the show often. I was watching a clip of him on that Abby Phillips show on CNN and I won't tell him, I won't

22:01tell you the actual text of the text I sent him. But if I was to surmise it for you, I said to him, you're out of your brain. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. But what I liked was his overarching point and it's something that I've said here, we are so far ahead of where everybody else is on so many topics because we are more honest than everybody else on the topics. And when it comes to the influencer class, the answer is the influencer is bad for us. The influencer is full of crap. Totally, totally full of it. And so he's on Abby Phillips show and there's these just angry bitter leftists yelling and screaming and there's this one woman.

23:03Her name is, is it Lima Gowen? Is that her name? And there's this great story that she's on there. This was like two days ago. She is on the show and she is screaming and yelling and there's this woman on the political right. This was her name is Brianna Lyman and Lima Gowen, this leftist, is yelling at her, screaming at her. This is actually quite incredible. This is a full temporary, does mean temporary. So eventually this individual may have been ordered to be removed and I think it's kind of insulting that we're talking about this immigrant instead of Brianna Connolly from Massachusetts who was strangled last week by an illegal alien. Why is the focus never, why is the focus, it's awesome for you because your daughter wasn't the one strangled. Oh my God, it's not. It's not. It's not a tourist of America. It's a tourist of America. Who watched their children get the murder by an illegal alien. It's a big, rich, rich, rich American. So all that crosstalk, but here's Lima Gowen. She doesn't want to talk about how illegal immigrants have killed Americans.

24:05Oh my gosh, again, it's so exhausting. So Brianna Lyman rightly takes her to task and there comes a moment where this Lima Gowen is screaming and yelling and just panting at Brianna Lyman and Brianna Lyman looks at her and goes, you should smile more. It's such a devastating line. The show has become the leftist say anything. Even when you agree with them, it's not enough. And then if you disagree with them, well, that's because you support bigotry. That's because you're a racist. That's because you're a misogynist. And then they don't let you speak at all. And Noah had made the point that these influencers, the Laura Lumer types, this is bad for all of us. We're not getting anything from these people, which is true. This was true when Pam Bondi was handing the so-called influencers binders regarding

25:07the Epstein files and there was nothing there. This was true when Joe Biden was having the influencers in the White House to create videos and oh, look at the busy day of the White House press secretary. You know the guy who was acting all feminine with the giant nails and answering the phone. Like I'm supposed to care who this loser is, you're trying to sell me on the idea that this trans nonsense, this effeminate nonsense is somehow good for manhood. It's never been good for manhood. It's terrible for manhood. Men should be men. When we go to this Abby Phillips show, by the way, before I get yelled at, men should be men as exactly what I said. There's nothing wrong with a man being gay. There's something wrong with the performance art. There's the difference. I will debate anybody on this. But this Abby Phillips show, it's not built for a conversation. It's built for how do we attack the conservative today? How do we avoid the larger scale conversations?

26:08And Abby Phillips' job is to make sure that the larger scale conversation is avoided. It's always about hey, I know what the leftist said was loud, but you have to understand that we have to agree with what the leftist said. It's not it's not worthy. No part of it is worthy at all in any way. I never want to be someone who says you shouldn't go on the show. I believe in going on the show. I go on shows. And there was a while in early in my career, I did MSNBC all the time. Contessa Brewer. I owe that woman a great deal. A great deal. She was unbelievably kind to me. We did not agree. We had back and forth. I did very well every now and again, she got me good. But I didn't hate her and she didn't hate me.

27:10And there were real conversations and real engagement. I wish I had been, I wish it had been now because I'd be better at it. I would know how to work it better. It's like when I'm on Newsmax and I have the opportunity to go up with Dennis Kassinich, right? Now Dennis Kassinich is a real leftist. A communist, right? And who he is. But he's old school in the way he engages. And I'm not trying to interrupt him and he's not trying to interrupt me. We may be like, well, well, well, now, right? But it is respectful. And now I'm not a fan of he said, she said, television or radio. I'm not a fan of the left right thing. But I at least like being able to engage with him. There is no engaging with Abby Philip. There's just no engaging in this way. This show is broken and lost. And if you're going to allow the engagement, well, then fine.

28:13That isn't what happens. And so, you know, I can appreciate the idea that you go into the den, right? If CNN invited me, would I really not go that show? What's the, I swear to you, there's two reasons to do it. Number one, you work there or you're going to work there, right? Number two, because you accept the fact and you understand the fact that you're going to have such great stories to tell. Like I'd be able to come back here and be like, I was on Abby Philip show last night, guys. And you will not believe this like I tell you the whole story. Maybe for that, but the conversation for the audience without the context that could come is, is valueless, man. It is valueless. It is this screaming, yelling, hateful. And the left never once concedes on anything.

29:14And guys who have like Van Jones, especially about Abdul Siette, they get vilified. They get vilified for doing so. You left. These are crazy for voting for this Jew hating, America hating, bigot. First, let's talk about the America hating. This was some of the unearthed audio of Abdul Sien, the Islamist Senate candidate, Democrat in Michigan. See, contrary to what we're taught, that we are the land of opportunity where anyone with a dollar in a dream can make it. In fact, too few people have that first dollar. Economic data shows us that if you want to achieve the American dream, well, you should move to Canada. Do you know how criminally insane that is? It's totally criminally insane. Of course, America is where you build your dreams. Canada is not where dreams are built and they're tough for every day. But when you are somebody pushing the socialism in the destruction of Western civilization, Canada

30:17is already your friend on this. But this is not the real story. The real story comes from this. Abdul Al-Sahead, engaging in full on cultural appropriation of black America. This is a talk that he gave in 2019. And in 2019, speaking in front of the Council of American Islamic Relations, we're talking about a terrorist front group as reported on. You have the state of Florida, designated them a terrorist group. Better to take a pack of money than care money every day of the week because a pack of money comes from Americans. Said it meant it. You show me why I would have to apologize for it. Care has got a lot of issues. I would never be looking to vote for somebody who's taking care money. Holy cow. Now he's speaking there and I'm going to share it with you.

31:17This is his argument regarding Muslims. I've been reading our history. Muslims have been in this part of the country since 1527. A stave nico of azador. Probably a name you've never heard. Probably the first recorded Muslim to touch ground on what is now these United States of America. Estimates suggest up to 50% of people who were brought here against their will as slaves were Muslims. Literally built this country. A man by the name of Bilaliyah Fula. Another name we probably don't know because we are cut off from our history. Thought in the war of 1812 against British tyranny. And in the 1960s when our country forgot what these truths were we had people like Muhammad Ali and Malcolm X who were there to remind us. That is our history in this country.

32:18Let me give you the translation of what he's saying. Hey, black America. We were slaves before you were slaves and we were here before you were here. So therefore this is ours. It is just full on cultural appropriation. Now part of this is the conquest methodology that is utilized by Islam throughout history. Well here since 1527 or whatever it is here since the 1500s. Therefore this is our country. We were here first. We have the claim to the land. This is ours. Which is why whenever they engage in any conquest they immediately built things right? It's so that their way of saying we own this. And once they built it they believe they always own it even if it gets torn down. No, no, that's still ours. That's part of their charm. Hey, black America you weren't slaves. We were the slaves stealing black history for his own purposes.

33:19Oh, that's some duplicitous crap right there. That is some brutal cultural appropriation right there. And that's what he's doing. This is you are witnessing the invention of the fantasy, the invention of the story. That's all that's happening here. This is the left and the Islamist. They're going to engage in a total recreation and they don't care who they destroy in the process or what they appropriate in the process as long as they can gain their victory and have the destruction of Western civilization. Black America they will steal your story. You think they care about you? You think Democrats care about you? They just pushed you to the side as fast as they can. Now, gay Americans have figured this out. Gay Americans supported Muslims this and Muslims that. And then Muslims got hold of town councils and they banned gay pride flags.

34:20And the gay people are like, but we supported you. Yeah, you schmucks. Don't you know? We're not talking about your neighbor. We're talking about the Islamist. We're talking about what happens in any part of the country or of the globe where Muslims get power. Then it is dominated by their ideology because it is not a religion. It is a political system. And since no one ever comes at me on this, you know why that is? You can rest assured that what I'm saying is correct because it is correct. I listen to them. I listen to their words. I have read their books. I have seen that part of the Quran and the Hadith that they quote. It is a political system, not a religion. And since anything is acceptable according to the Quran to get to the goal of the conquest and of the caliphate and of the submission of the non-believer, this is allowed. Who wants to argue that? No one can argue that. But I will bet you any amount of money if I went on the Abbey Philips show and said that

35:25they would argue it. Those ridiculous emotional leftists women and those absolute bull crap leftist men would argue that I'm a Islamist foe and I'm a xenophob and I'm a big and an racist and I don't care. They don't care how they hurt themselves. They don't care how they lose. They're joyful in their losing. And do you think the message will get out? Do you think the honesty of what it is that they're saying will get out? Do you think that the conversation I just had I'd be able to have an Abbey Philips show and someone could disagree with me but maybe do it in a rational way? All hail? No. No. No. And that's why I think no. That's not this mind. But all right, if I get asked to go on the show because you never want to not be able to at least try to engage, should I go on it? You tell me, this is Tony Katz today.

36:25For many people, renting is a convenient option. It offers flexibility and may require less responsibility for maintenance but only to rent a home can offer a different set of long-term benefits. Instead of paying rent to a landlord each month, homeowners are investing in a property that can potentially increase in value over time. That means your home may become an asset as you continue to live in it. Home ownership can also provide more control over your living space from decorating to renovations that really fit your lifestyle. And here's something that many people don't realize. There are education programs and financial assistance options available for first time home buyers. Some of these programs even offer grant funding that may help cover part of the upfront cost and grants typically don't have to be repaid. That's why learning about home ownership options can be an important step toward making the best decision for you and your family. To learn more, visit toolsforhomeownership.com. The glorious dynamist passed away at the age of 92, the author, the feminist.

37:32Yeah, someone should ask whether her legacy really holds up. Now, I'm not saying there aren't going to be people who mourn her death. They were friends with her and all that jazz. I'm saying that all those women, mostly on the view, who are going to exclaim, what a great and important figure and what she did for women. Yeah, she didn't do anything for women. I, the legacy, and it's not just hers. The legacy of feminism is going to come up. It's going to be a large scale discussion. And I think that we should honestly discuss the legacy of feminism and what it has done to women. And we should also take a look at what it has done to men because it has not, wait for it, been good. It has not done men well in the slightest. The feminists and the feminizing of so many parts of society has not made us better or

38:33stronger or happier. It has made us angrier and weaker. This is not an attack on women. This is, it is a noticing of what feminism has wrought. And I don't think we should be happy with that. I think we should work to stop that. And I would like to start working on that right now. That's okay. Find everything at tonicats.com. Tomorrow, everyone, take care. McDonald's is putting value back on the menu. Whether you're craving a big mac, McNuggets or sausage egg and cheese, McGrittles, make it a meal and save. Your favorite is now your wallet's favorite too. Extra value meals are back. Sun rises, prices fall. Get a sausage McMuffin with egg or sausage egg and cheese, McGrittles, small hot coffee

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