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This week the boys are joined by local filmmaker Charles Livingston to discuss male desire. They begin by first discussing straight male desire (the derision of the male gaze, male jealousy and possessiveness, and gender performance) before going into a deep exploration of Nathan’s thesis that yearning is the most universal and inexorable difficulty experienced by gay men. Amongst other things they discuss how the Ancient Romans conflated sexual conquest with imperial conquest, how Cleopatra in Shakespeare's Antony and Cleopatra weaponized mens’ desire, and how straight men and gay men seem to equally match each other in terms of desire.
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Charles Livingston’s Instagram
Wings by Charles Livingston
Armond and Mark scene from the White Lotus
Artwork: Germanic Warrior with Helmet, Osmar Schindler, 1902
Recorded on 8/11/2024
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