Ep. - 1730 - TEAM MOMS: BASEBALL

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3:04Taukiatry.com slash Kate Casey. Welcome back for another episode of reality life with KKC. I am so excited about today's episode because I asked Chris Derosa to watch with me, team mom's baseball on Paramount Plus. Chris doesn't have any kids, he never played youth sports. I thought this would be a very eye-opening experience. Now it's important to note that this show is set in Scottsdale, Arizona, and I think the setting matters. To put into perspective, every spring major league baseball comes to the Phoenix area for spring training. And you have 15 major league baseball teams training at 10 ball parks across the valley. And then the rest of the year, the sunshine means the kids can play baseball 12 months a year. There's no off season, there's no snow day. And when you grow up with big league ball parks down the street and a travel tournament every weekend, the dream of going pro may feel a little bit more close than other parts

4:06of the country. It's also a breeding ground for delusion because the reality that your child is going to play in major league baseball is pretty unbelievable. I mean, the statistics are working against them. Now this particular show takes place at the legendary prep academy. It is a baseball focused private school that opened in Scottsdale two years ago. And students spend roughly two hours a day in class. And I would wonder if it's even that much. And the rest of the day is training. So a typical day, and I know that many of you have academies where you live that are similar. It's like you show up, you're doing strength training, agility, you do, you know, 40 minutes of math and math. I don't even know if it's specific to a kind of math. Early or entire day is training, training, training. This is a lot of wear and tear on a young body and you're coached by specialists in the sport. As you can imagine, this is very costly.

5:06You can't get a specific price on the website. It's been rumored to cost about $31,000 a year, of course. If you have kids in sports, you know that that's basically just like the bottom level. You add to that equipment and travel and hotels and gas and meals and all of these other costs that come with it. So these families are paying private school prices for a shot at a dream with very long odds. It's also important to note, Kim Kardashian is an executive producer. She and her friend came up with the idea after talking about how intense youth sports parents can be and all of us with kids in sports would have gone. Well, yeah, obviously. Now we've got seven families participating in the show and let me give you the lineup. Nina runs a Pilates studio. She's very direct. Girl after my own heart. In the first episode, she meets with the coach and calls them a punk and the conversation turns to her own conduct toward another student and that incident becomes a major storyline for the first episode.

6:08Riley and Dallas, Baldry. They're ambitious, they're confident and they have a son who dresses like Paulie D. Melanie and John are frequently in the middle of the conflict. John is sort of to me the father that was really successful in high school sports and believes that his son will be as well and the mom kind of like walks behind them and just kind of agrees with everything. Heather and her ex-husband, Scott are co-parenting their son named striker and again, his name is spelled S-T-R-Y-K-E-R and then you're worried he never had a chance to play. Any other sport or be a boulder because they expected him to be a baseball star. Trish is married to a former NASCAR driver, Casey Mears, so their family has first-hand experience with professional sports. But as you will see, I feel like she was probably supposed to be on real housewives of Scott'sdale. Aaron tries to keep the group together while holding strong opinions of her own and

7:10she's got a husband who is a little bit too much of a gossip. So a lot of moving parts to this show set in a beautiful place, Chris has some issues with the architecture and the interior design. We had a ball talking about it. I think it's a great show to binge on the weekend. If you love sports, you're going to get kicked out of this. If you have kids in sports, you're going to see some people that you know in the different characters. I've been, and I say this in that episode, I've been scrolling through social media kind of get a feel for it. I actually feel like there's a huge population of dads that are watching this. This may be their gateway drug to a reality television shows for you if you're married. Get his feet wet by watching this. He's going to get fired up. And the next thing you know, you're going to go, well, if you like this, you should watch love undercar on peacock and then you can find your way to Southern charm. Again, the best time, as always with Chris, I think you guys are going to want to binge the show.

8:10It's called Team Mom's Baseball. It's on Paramount Plus. There's my interview with Chris. Uh, baseball. Paceball. What did you play sport right now? And sure didn't. Not one. I played soccer for like a minute, but then I was like, all right, I don't like doing this. Where I grew up, there were like people that were like their parents were so, their parents were these people that were like, they're going to go pro and they're this and they're so good that they're going to blink, blink, blink. And like we're going every weekend is like full of like either dance. You know what I mean? Because remember, I'm from the world of I'm from the area that I really, I really really was domain was, you know what I mean? They live like 45 minutes away from me. So like either dance or like, you know, baseball actually, there was like a lot of really good, like a lot of baseball players or a few basketball players from like my town. But like we're like, oh, they played in college and it was big deal and blah, blah, blah. But yeah. So I knew families like this, but not to this level.

9:13But what a show. Yes. What a show. Now what I grew up, if you're a really good athlete, your goal was to use that to get into college. And then I moved to Southern California and I started dating my husband and he said, offhandedly, the two people who were pro sports players like were in his high school class. One was an Olympic swimmer and one was a tennis pro. And I was like, I'm sorry, what? Yeah. And then I moved to this town and there are a bunch of people who are former pro or Olympic players. So there's definitely pockets of places in this country where you're going to find depending on the sport pros. And I suspect that Scott Stale is probably one of those cities where a lot of former pros go to live because of the weather. And when you have a community like that, people who were pros often have children that have natural talent.

10:14Other people who do not come from that background, they have children and they have to those children typically have to work a little bit harder. For example, in this community, we have a lot of volleyball players. And if your child signs up for community, like for like the beginning, volleyball, kind of club teams, and you filling out the paperwork, they ask you about your parents or you as a parent. Did you play? How tall are you? I mean, it's like a well oiled machine and you do have certain advantages if your parent was also a pro athlete. I think they also look at those kids like not only will you be genetically be a little bit gifted, but the parent probably understands and accepts that if the child wants to be part of a travel team, there will be added expenses. They'll be added travel. It's probably less of a headache to explain that. Versus the laymen, you're like, okay, if you're going to sign up for the soccer team, you're going to be paying $3,500 a year. We expect them to be here every week. This isn't just you show up. And for the games, you've got to be practicing on the side. So there's all of that in a community like Scottsdale, which I assume is probably a

11:17little bit like mine. You let up people that had some success and then go and live in a nice, warm spot. And I think that the people who live in that community want to align themselves with them socially. And sometimes they think the way to do it is through their child sports. And to me, that's what I think this show is about. And in many of these worlds, you know, I mean, of these like my kid is playing this sport. And so we're all there and we're the parents of mobile. It's a way for the families to because they know that they're never going to amount to anything greater than this. Right. They can just be in high school for the rest of their lives with the sports. Correct. Which makes me want to end it all. All this to say love. Love the show. Love the show. And I have one of my friends is a very big, big high up on the ladder of the creation of this show. And I have yet to ask them many questions. And I'm so I'm waiting to do this so I can be unbiased.

12:21But then you know that the minute we close this laptop, I'm going to be calling them and be like, who what's this person? Like what's this person? Yes. And you will report back to you secretly not on not on the microphone. Let's start at the top about this baseball academy. I'm presuming Kim Kardashian and the mom that was on the travel baseball team with her or the soccer team. I think it was the soccer team and they discussed wouldn't it be great to have a show like this just like every other person who's ever worked in unscripted TV or been participating in some sort of travel team has thought this world is insane. Yeah, it should be the mom's show. The baseball team. Yeah, it really is. Yes. We didn't reinvent the wheel with the concept. And I'm presuming that their plan is to franchise this like to make it like team. Yeah, team moms basketball. Yeah, yeah, team moms football. Baseball is an interesting beginning sport because I do think in the world of sports, youth sports, you have a very different type of parent.

13:23Because for example, my child plays lacrosse and I find that most of the parents their goal is to use lacrosse to get their child into college. But for baseball, I feel like a lot of the parents, it's like we need this child to play professionally because we're hoping that this is our meal ticket. When it comes to like high, high, high level, it's fewer people that are like, I hope you can play in college. And also because that sport is such, especially pictures, it does such wear and tear on your shoulders. Some of these kids that start off playing really young, it's been my experience and I have a freshman boy that a lot of his friends are not playing baseball anymore. They have too much damage to their shoulders. I burned out. To me, the biggest ups, the most upsetting part of this show is that it highlights something that's I feel like very detrimental in America, which is you, I wrote, how many, this is my first note of all of this, of the pages that I have on this show.

14:27Most of them being like, thank you for this amazing scene. The first note that I have in one of my most negative notes is how many of these kids are starting this reality show already injured. They're 13 or 14 in recovering from injuries that full grown adults get. It's very upsetting. And I wrote, what are the long term repercussions of this amount of strain on their bodies as adults? Yes. Like the fact that they are, they already, they're like, this person, he fell on his bad knee and then the one of the prank goes, he has a bad knee. Like I have seen so many people go through collegiate or lower, you know, this kind of thing collegial level sports where they know that they're not playing professionally or they know that they're just doing it because it's this thing that they've been doing since they were young and it's something that they've always done. Rec their bodies for the rest of their lives. And I remember so vividly and I wish I could figure remember exactly like what the title of this article was or the title of this interview. But I remember NPR and I listened to this once.

15:27It was like NPR did a thing about CTE and football. Yes. Like back when that was all really starting, that conversation was really starting and they interviewed all these moms, kind of like people that would be casted on like team moms football basically of like the mom being like, this is this has been my entire life, my whole life. Like my dad played football. I like my brothers played football and now my in my husband played football and now my kids are playing football. Football is the American pastime blah, blah, blah. I don't know what to do. Like now that I know that it's so detrimental to my kids health and that my kid could have like severe brain trauma as a child. Like I'm so scared for my kid, but there's nothing I can do because this is my entire identity is wrapped up in this sport. Boy, that's so. And I remember that being like bone chilling. It really is. You know, and I there's something about it that is so what is the what truly what is the

16:29point of all of this in the sense of having the kids be this young and have this must much pressure on them. When later in the show, a lot of the parents give interview bites of being like, why is blank couple taking this so seriously? It's not like any of these kids are going to play in the MLB. And I'm like, isn't that the point of all of this is to try to get them to play in the MLB? Well, then I thought I think that all of these parents kind of all in with the exception of one and I'll get to them. I think they all know this child of mine has no ability to play at the big leagues. Sure. But I think they're all collectively hoping that instead of the meal ticket, the child being the meal ticket in terms of baseball, the meal ticket will be television and TV personalities and influencing. I don't even think, but that's the thing is like who do who are they to know that this TV show would come along? Oh, I think that there are so many reality TV producers made their way through Scottsdale and had introductory conversations with people.

17:32I mean, the ball dreams alone, they seem like a family that has had Copies discussions about branding, personal branding, family branding. I mean, they're throwing spaghetti at the wall. We can't even get to, I can't even start with that. We can't get to that. We can't get to them because that's a whole situation. That's a full situation. But I get what you're saying. I'm more like, I wonder if it's more of a status thing in their area too. If I go to LPA, which is like legendary prep academy, isn't that what it's called? Well, I have a real. Or legendary players academy. What is it? LPA. Legendary players academy. I think. Well, here's my issue. I've said this before. I'll say this again. I believe we have a crisis in America where a lot of these academies are propping up. And what they're asking families to pay for, full well knowing that that child does not have the talent or the capacity to keep up with the other kids.

18:34The tuition, which they refuse to publicly post, is purported to be around $30,000 a year. And when I tell you that, that is not the total amount. That is just the tuition. You have to take the back to walk in the door. Yeah. You have to pay for uniforms, tournament fees. There's probably other extra accruter months that are important. No, it's like again, $30,000 to turn the lights on. That's taking a basic car without any of the bells and whistles. Yes, that like barely you've turned it on and it can kind of start. You just got a key out, but it doesn't even have tires on the car. So. Yes. My question for the people that operate these academies, how do you look at your self in the mirror for knowing that this child probably will get injured, has no capacity to play at like even a high high school level, let alone collegial, let alone MLB. And you look at these families in the face and then you take their money. How do you sleep at night?

19:34And I think you are right. And I think it's like, when I think of this school, I think of like, oh my god, this is like a prodigy of like a kid that's like so good at baseball. Like they're so great and guess how great they are so great that they couldn't even, they're like middle school baseball team is full of fucking losers compared to them. You know what I mean? That's what I'm thinking, but then this the show goes on. It's like, oh, I think these parents have the kids in there because they want them to be these prodigies and they're not. Yes. And there's not one thing wrong with the kids are just kids that play baseball because it's a sport and it's fun. And the parents have turned it into life. You need to this needs to be your brand and this needs to be this. I'm like, you need to be so good at this that I'm going to spend so much money instead of the kid just like playing a sport because he enjoys it and it's fun. I think there are two things. One, I think that the kids that are part of this academy, if they do have high level and I'm assuming they don't and that's why they wanted to do their TV show because they wanted to promote it in order to get more people because the lights are barely flickering,

20:34you know, like they need some extra money. The kids that are successful at this academy did not want to participate or probably left the school. One of my animals are a family in the show. Remember, again, famously Laguna Beach, they went to the popular kids at the school and they were like, no. And then the people that we ended up getting where the sub tier. Yes. The second part of it is, again, I think most of these people have put their kids into this because this is the cool school. This is where we're going to get some social climbing situations. They want to go to school with Casey Mearsson because he's a NASCAR driver. Like, oh, his son goes there. Okay, we want to be invited to those parties and go to those events and be around the SP. That's who he is. Oh, that's where she's so removed from the whole thing. She's a guy better than this. Yeah. She's 100% better. Well, not only that, she thinks she's so much prettier than all of them. Yes, I am. Again, she's been called 14 times to be on Real Housewives of Scottsdale.

21:35It's never, ever happened. And you can tell. Yeah. All right. Anyway, shall we go through each family? Yeah. Who's at the top of the board for you? As like best? Like I got to talk about these people. They're insane. Nina and AJ are the stars of the show. Yeah. Love Nina. Like, we're cooking with gas with Nina and AJ. I love them. They're the Nina knows exactly what she's doing as far as a job on a reality television show is concerned. And she's funny. And AJ is really hot and defends her in a way that's not misogynistic unlike most of the like she is the only wife that's like, I'm the outspoken one of my husband is my support system, whereas all the other ones like the wives are co-opted by their husbands. Yes. Some of which are retracted to and some of which I'm not and we'll get there. She's like the one only one like as much as it's like build as team moms and it's like

22:38the moms are the stars like the dads really. The dads are the monsters. They really are the monsters and they think they're the stars and their wives should just shut up and be quiet. And I'm like, there's a little, there's a lot of misogyny in the show that I'm like, I don't love. I don't know. And a lot of homophobia that we'll get to. But anyway, Nina and AJ are stars. AJ is hot. AJ is hotter and hotter when he doesn't have the hat on. I want him to kick that hat right off his head and just. With the one that says form. And the one that says outlaws or whatever, which is like the kids baseball team. He doesn't need PS a white hat, please. Scott, this is so Arizona. You don't mean they're like a white hat like kill me. But he's so handsome and I think he's not like he loves his wife and she's crazy, but he loves it. And I'm so into. He's so high, right? Like just let's get. No, I think he's just odd. I think he's high. Sure. And then the scene where he's like, you're not even making a face. I think he had dip in his mouth so he couldn't talk. But I did love whenever they were whenever it was like they went to all the different shots

23:39of him and he just looked crazy and all the I'm numbers. I'm saying I think he's probably high stars stars. But Nina's doing this show not only for influencing possibilities, but she's really here to promote the Pilates studio because it's real heavy episode one and two about the Pilates studio. Yes, I wrote. That Nina stop all your head enough Pilates is what I wrote. But then we she stopped, we she got the note. Yeah, she did the Pilates. And again, I don't feel that she's there with all two year motives, even if she is. I feel that she's there to be on the show and do it. And like whereas like other couples will get to the Italian family, the ball dreams or whatever the fuck their names are, by the way, charlatans. Like they are so sweaty to me whereas Nina is not sweaty. Nina probably was one of the popular girls at school and it is like bothered her so much that she's living in this town where you have the Casey Mears and his wife, you know, Trish. And they don't get invited to certain things.

24:39And I think that this is the ecosystem that we live within. It does give you a little moxie. It gives you a little social power if you're like, well, I have this amount of followers and I am on this TV show and I think Nina knows that. And I also think that Nina was an originally cast on the show and I think that once she's called that kid a little bitch that then they were like, you should be on the show because you have this obvious beef with you right now because that from the first two episodes, they're like, we don't really know her blah, blah, blah. So why would how would she get to them? But it's definitely because there was like the rumor mill because clearly we're involved. Like the show is involved with the school itself because there's like, there's meetings of like the heads of the school. Like so they probably were like, oh my god, this meat, this thing just happened. But so dramatic and the people are like, what's that woman's name info number and social security number? You don't even know. Because I can be getting like that. But do you think they're like, their son's not even that good? And they're like, we don't care. We don't care. And I don't want it to be about the children. Yes. I desperately don't want it to be about the children.

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27:44The scophony house is decorated like a Las Vegas law firm. No, there's not one house that I saw here. The counter nothing. But there's not one but compared to the ball tree house that's clearly an Airbnb. Yes. Like, no one, I mean, I'm not going to Scottsdale for no offense, but I'm not going to just Scottsdale or Zona for interior design, I'm sorry to say. Okay. Fair, fair. So. So, you know, or really fashion, none of them dress up at all. They're always in like a, in like a, a cami, just the cami and jeans, which whatever. But like, is because it's too hot there? Probably throw the talent. They're like, I'm in the desert. You know, what's the point? And but I think that's like what the look is, but I just, it doesn't. We're not getting much when it comes to hair. No. Make up. You know what I mean? It looks, but I don't need it. I'm very refreshing. I'm happy that they're, I think it's a little bit devoid for the most part of the lashes and the things for the scene. Yeah, they're not getting too much of hair and makeup. They're doing it themselves, which is good.

28:45And it's like, and I hope it stays that way. And we're not, but we're not watching for that either. I don't want they are. They look like moms on the side of the, on the side of the baseball, you know, diamond, like cheering on the, the sons and I'm into that. But again, I'm so far in this show and by that, I mean, all the way to the end, the moms don't seem really monstrous to me. I feel like it's the dads and I think it was called the wrong name. It's the dads and Nina. It's their Nina's on touch, she went to the guys and she's like, I don't know if they want to make this show. No, and she's like, here's what you're going to do. And here's what I'm going to do. And then you're going to do this and they're like, God, I understood. And they, and we, PS, thank you. Thank you. Because I watched a show that I liked, you know, in a mean versus it being like annoying and boring. I wrote, yeah, AJ Rocco's dad can get it. I said, I'm upset about this, but I'm also, but I'm attracted to the owner of LPA, that one that was like the big guy. I don't know. I said, I'm upset about it. You sent me a text and I thought I could throw my phone out the window and I do need to

29:45read it later. So no, I, that was upsetting the owner guy that much. So much shit about Jeff in Baltimore and love Island or love is blind. And then you throw the side. You know what the one I'm talking about is like the big beefy one with like the hair and the jaw. I know he's not your type. It's not your type. But I said, I said, I'm upset about this, but I'm admitting that it's bad, but I'm just, you know, there's like, hear me out cakes or whatever. That's what I put him on there. Wow. That's a doozy and a half. Sorry. All right. Then we have the Feldhackers. I need to talk about them. Heather Scott and Striker. Now Heather and Scott were married and had three kids, but she has come out of the closet and their son again, a striker, his name is spelled S-T-R-Y-K-E-R. They saw this child in the hospital and they thought this is going to be an MLB player. And for that, I'm concerned. They were like a motorcycle couple.

30:46You can tell. Oh, sure. And then this striker was their only, was the only avenue they were ever going down with a child's name. But I love them. Heather, I'm obsessed with. I love her look. I love her arm band tattoo. Bring back arm band tattoos. May I say? I disagree with you, but okay. Like if we're going to go there, you can listen, Genzy, you cowards, you wanted to be millennials. Get a Superman S tattoo. Okay. Get a barbed wire arm band tattoo. You cowards. You want to come for us, millennials and say like, why do they try it? Bub, bub, bub, bub, bub, bub, bub, bub, bub, bub, bub, bub, bub, bub, bub, bub, get a barbed wire tattoo and then we'll fucking talk anyway. Obsessed with them. Love that, love that, though, the husband. He's so nice to her and I love that. He's the one who's nice. I love the relationship. Yeah. I love that she's actively going, like, deprogramming herself to be homophobic to herself. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like that was extremely compelling to watch. Yeah. He was on her side and with her, but it took her a minute to be like, hey, no, I'm actually

31:51being serious about this. I need you to say, like, I'm going to these people. Yeah. And it like took a minute. It's an episode, Jokey, but then he did do it and was like, hey, and then for him to be like, how do you think I feel they like make fun of me saying like, would you be hard-pricing? Disgusting that this is the way that they think it's disgusting. But you know what happens? You couldn't keep your woman. She's like gay now because you didn't like fuck her but enough. Like throw up in all of their faces. You're all disgusting. Mm-hmm. But like, he was like, that's it's like sad because I like have nothing to say to it and like it hurts my, it's like, it makes me mad. But I can't like get mad at them about it. Mm-hmm. And it's like, and she was like, I didn't even think about that. And like that was a hard breaker. But it was compelling. I loved watching it. It was like, it made me think, you know what I mean? It like made like it. I felt like these two should take this on the road and like consult people on how to appropriately get a divorce and remain tight and have a family together. And that's thing is like all the other, once they confronted them about it, it was like,

32:52they were all like, we just like don't understand how you can even like do this because you're not married, which is like, so. Because they just closed their spouse. There's a lot of things that people commented, people made that I was like, I haven't heard a comment like that since I was in high school. And these people are grown adults and they're saying this. There were a lot of people that have reached out to say, please understand this does not represent all of us. Well, that's true everywhere. Okay, that's good. That's true everywhere. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. I thank you, you know what I mean? Because I have multiple notes of being like, I'm being triggered by things in my childhood by the way that these people speak. Mm-hmm. But anyway. The one family that I do believe, by the way, does believe that their child is going to be either an elite college player or MLB player are the Dunmars, Melanie, John and KJ. John's the heavier set guy. Yeah, he's Captain Underpants anyway, continue. I'll love this right here, but as soon. I do believe that the two, those parents have a ton of discussions about clinics and

33:57coaches. They should talk other kids. They should talk other parents. I think that they represent the couple that has delusion. I'm sorry to tell you this Dunbar family. I think you have some serious delusion when it comes to the reality of what your child is up against in terms of competition. And the dad needs the Captain Underpants, the father needs the, like he needs to be better than everyone else because he's a loser and ugly and gross and a misogynist. And so he needs to like, have his son be the best so that he can like, do what I'm saying. And he's like a busy body and every other, you know what I mean? Notice he's the only dad that was like furious about Nina's comments to the kid. And so he's a busy body that needs to be better than everyone. So he can like go in and be like, yeah, well, my kid's the best you way harder. Yes, dad's that I bet. I bet you too, because he's so tall. I think he has tall bias where he's looking at someone like the ball dream and is like, your kid will never be athletic because they don't know how they do not have the height

35:00that is required. And he just grossed too. He needs to be like better than ever. He needs his kid to be better than everyone because then he's better than everyone. And I worry about Melanie. She just, there's nothing there. She's someone we need to, we need to really pay like member the wife, member the diabolical dad on love is blind and the wife like we were like, she's a prisoner like that. She's kind of a prisoner too. She's a prisoner. She doesn't know where to go and what to do. But I worry that KJ is at some point going to be told that the dream that he had is not going to happen. And Melanie, she's just going to be like, where do I drive my car to? How do I get up in the morning? I also don't, like the child being the person that like they're pinning all their hopes and dreams on is like, that is not okay. Nope. You know, whereas like you're not seeing Nina being like Rocco, like you need to be this good. Boba, Boba, Boba, Boba. She's just like he wants to do it and we want him to be good in Boba, Boba. Again, because I think this is more social for them. It's different to me than putting your kid in like a some fancy private school because

36:05you think, oh, well, then we're going to be around rich families. And then, and I do think there are people who are have scammy businesses who send their kids to private schools because they want to get those people as their clients. And they may do that with an incredible amount of debt with their wine. But like, oh, yeah, I'm going to hop not with the people that are like making action happen. And you can smell those people. You can see them in a room all the time. Yeah. Um, I want to save the ball dreams to the end because that's going to be scorched earth. Well, then I want to go through some scene work. Also, I have a lot of notes of the scene work too. Quick question. Um, all those dads to me, my belief is the worst one is Joey, the tailors. So Trina's husband and they've got this on jet jet, TT. That guy to me represents the person who is completely delusional about their own child's athleticism. By the way, it has been said that a son's athleticism comes from their mom and that's

37:10why jet has a prayer because Joey does not seem like he seems like a bowler. He doesn't seem like anybody that could use like I could be to beat him in a sprint. So you know what I mean? But somehow he thinks that his child is genetically gifted and I'm confused by that. He is another one that's like, I'm going to be so great because my son's going to be so great. And most of the homophobic and misogynistic comments in the show come from him. Actually, Joey is like really trying to be, like he's really thinks this is his come-up instance. And I mean that as like, I know that he may have been like a complete dork in school. And now he thinks he's really cool because he's on a reality show. He's got some veneers. He's very tan. He's very big into TikTok. I have seen that which tracks because I don't he said something about retiring early. I think he had like an air conditioning business. So I feel like he has a lot of time on his hands. Yeah, too much someone say he's the dad that is always a drop off and pick up and wants

38:11to kind of like hang out and talk to moms and dads because he doesn't have anything going on and like get the room or mail going get the room or bill. He's a busy body. You know, then you're going to go to his house and he's going to be like, let's do shots and talk about like, let's go to Formula One and people are like, I can't fly to Dubai tomorrow because I have a job. Yeah. And Trina, I mean she's dead in the eyes too. There's nothing. I like it. When she was starting to get activated at the end of this. I think personalities, they're kind of boring. No, but when Trina was getting activated at the end when she was like yelling at Riley or whatever her name was and was like, you're a fucking bitch. Like I was like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but like I love them. She was like, you're dead in the water. You got it like we're not staying on the show if you don't bring something. But again, like because the husbands won't shut the fuck up. That's why you know what I mean? They don't let the wives be and that's a very telling notice Nina, you know, AJ is there to be Nina's sidekick. Whereas the husbands are all like, this is a man's world and you're my wife and even though you are the reason we're on the show, it's like it's really my rule.

39:13Yes, baseball again is a weird thing because men obviously feel like they have ownership over the sport because they all played it and that women don't under the same sport. You didn't play. You don't understand it. And that's why another reason I just think this show would have been better called team dad's baseball because they're really the ones that are crazier. Yeah, I don't think any of the women really give two shits like I think like even when Trish says, I'm really competitive. I think that's just sort of like a blanket. Well, obviously the blanket statement, but whatever sport her kid in is, I think her terms of competition is like, I'm going to show I'm going to be the mom that shows up to everything. I don't get the sense she thinks that her kid is going to be some pro player. PS, get off my screens. If you're not going to show up to the to the be on the show, then why are you here? Yeah, again, she feels like she's different. Yeah, but I got I bet you like me to her.

40:13I bet you she was the middle at the beginning and then mean. And then when Nina got cast, she was like, I don't want this loose cannon coming in. Why, by the way, do you remember she makes the common in the beginning about how she doesn't want to go to school that much because she doesn't want to distract the children. Mm hmm. Okay, a 14 year old kid gives two shits about you. Yeah. They don't care about you. No, she was talking about she really was like, thought it was going to be her show and she was the main one and then Nina came right in and stole that right out of her hands and she ended sorry, you got it and you got to show up girl. You can't just blow by it's like every once in a while for a scene, you got to be put in the work. And you know who gets rewarded people that show up and Nina did. And so get Trisha and Kate, whatever his name is, get off my screens. Bye. Don't need job boring by the way. Boring, boring. This is an epidemic because there are very pretty women that believe that there should be reality shows about them or they believe in it. And that they're interesting.

41:13But they're not interesting. And they don't have charisma despite what they believe. And it's the women like Nina who rise through the ashes and become leaders. And again, your husband being famous can open the door for you, but then once you step in it on a reality show, you got to put in the work and she's never had to do that once in her life. Not once, yeah. Also, I am amused by the women that go, well, I'm competitive, meaning like Mike, I am competitive in there for my child will be. And then they provide you an answer of why they're competitive. For example, Riley says, well, we're competitive. I'm competitive. I won Miss Arizona, blah, blah, blah. What the hell does that have to do with sports and baseball? I don't care. Not one thing. Now, if you said I was on the World Cup team in, you know, 2016, then I go, okay, well, that makes sense. But, huh? That's like I had this conversation with a boy who played basketball, one of these sports

42:13academies. And I asked him how come, you know, you decided to go there and he said his mom was pushing for it. As was your mom, you know, a basketball player and he said, no. But then he said, but she was the ball girl for the UCLA football team in college. That is the problem in America, right now. But that doesn't translate. You were the ball girl for a football team. You had proximity to athletes. Does not mean that you are going to give birth to someone who's genetically talented. And also an industry that will cheer you up and spit you out. You know what I mean? Professional sports. And, and it's very much like on, you know, our favorite show of all time, America, Sweet Hearts. When it's like, here's my mom that like, was a secretary once for the Dallas coverage year leaders. That means I should be a cheerleader for five years. Thank you. It's lunacy. It's absolutely lunacy. Um, the wool chicks, Erin, Tommy and Cole, Erin, I don't know why she was cast. She doesn't provide much.

43:15Well, because her husband is hot and he's up his body as well. And so that's her husband is beefy and hot. And I'm, he keeps taking the shirt off and I keep looking. Okay. All I'm going to say. And I need, I like him in the group and I like her and she has, she did have a few zingers. But the show's called team moms. I know. Again, poor name. I know. Um, let's talk about the Paul trees. Okay. Ah, their son, Paulie D. Love him. He has a star. It's a sal, salvatore. He is just working all the angles. He's got a T shirt line. He's got five chains on. He's got the Italian flag. I feel badly for him because he is going to be embarrassed when he's 24. When he does a 23 and me test and he finds out he's like from Chuckless, LaBacchia. No, they, he even admitted he's only 25% Italian. In the show, he says I'm 25% Italian. Okay, I'm embarrassing. 75% Italian and you've never seen me one time.

44:18Not one time. No. Give like one, one fraction of a percentage of like what this entire family is doing. And also 75% but born and raised in America. Correct. 50, 50 Irish English. I can make jokes about being Irish English but I'm an American. Yeah, yes, we're in, yes, we're in the United States of America. You know what I mean? No. Not like my family. If we walk to Sicily and Donnegaal, they'd be like, what's up Americans? Yes, hello white Americans. You know what I mean? Exactly. And they however, not to be on their side for one second. But for this, for what we're also seeing with these other families, they are like the family of color of this, of this show, which is like horrific to say, but true. Yes. Yeah. Okay, the fact that he's wearing an Italian flag headband. Okay, let me paint a picture for everyone that doesn't know we're talking about. Okay, yes. This child, child. Okay, everyone. One of six, one of six.

45:18One of six. This child shows up to play baseball. In the baseball jersey that everyone else has, the jersey in the pants. His belt that he wears on his pants is bright gold. Like out of like, I'm the right pair at a wedding in Staten Island. Didn't I mean? Yeah. And then he wears four, not one, not two, not three, but four gold chains of various thicknesses and length. Like Mr. Tuddlebo is shaking, looking at this child. More huge necklaces to play baseball and he's what, 11 or 12 years old. And then he has a bandana and then like wrist guards slash like sweat bands that are the Italian flag that he wears. And then he has his hat over top of that bandana that's on his forehead.

46:21The bandana placement is interesting too. This is a 25% Italian person. How do you even play sport when you have that much weight of the chains on you? And how is he allowed? He shouldn't be allowed to wear the chains. That's another joke that they would have never allowed that. They're like just more filming a show, just pretend and everyone's like, I love about it. We'll give you $50, sure. But no. By the way, youth girl soccer, even if you just had your ears pierced, they make you remove the earring. Like yes. Yeah, because you can like hit your thing. Yeah, I like my friends play soccer. The lobes are like closing up as you run down the field, but this guy can wear four chains. Till like slide into first. The parents are like what they salvatore. Salvatore. Salvatore. That's like me naming all of my kids super Portuguese names. No, it's like you naming your kid, but your husband is Portuguese.

47:21This is true. This is like you naming your kids like. Mave and Finnegan. Yes, like Finnegan and like, you know, like, I don't even, I don't even know. I can't even think of it. You know what I mean? Like, like, like, Cotswold and fucking, and I'd be like, what's wrong with this? Yes, or English, yes, Alistair Cotswold. Yes. Windsor, you know what I mean? Like, Kensington. Kensington, yeah. Yeah. It'd be like, what are you doing, you loser? Queen Elizabeth III, do you know what I mean? It's a good. Well, also, tell them about the wine. Okay, so the, yes, the parents of this Salvatore's, his parents' names are Riley R.Y. L.E. Why L.E. Doesn't smack of Italy at all. Even worse, tell of the dad's name. The dad's name is Dallas. Like is in Texas. Like, like, Dallas Cowboys, that's what you know what I mean again, a place we've been

48:28many times on our screens. Those, none of those people are Italian. And maybe they are, I don't care. But like, you're, they, their house, quote unquote, that is a straight up Airbnb, 100 percent. There's no way it's not. Is this cavernous shipple? And they're kitchen. Like Teresa Judice's kitchen from like her first house. And like, when Jersey started, like the epitome of a Tuscan kitchen is shaking at how fucking Tuscan their kitchen is. And this Charlotteson man named Dallas, violently white name is like, here's all the, we own wineries, but they don't even own wineries. They really just like white label other people's wines. And they kind of admit that on the show that they do all this, like, you know, they have all these grapes and bubble and he, they eventually go to a party at these, at their house. And these people will not, he will not shut the fuck up. There's no food. They're just, they're such posters. It's so, they're posters.

49:30It's like, remember on ream, okay. If there's so high, I was of DC, remember the Salah, he's very salahian. They're a very salahish when, if their son was an adult and he went on, I love New York in like 20. Yes. In 2008, like we would have been obsessed with him. They would have called him like set four chains. Yeah. Because they would have been four chains. And we would have all been like, this is a star. We're obsessed with him. Bob a lot. They like are such posters and in every way and he's giving them a speech about wine. I, there's so much to say about them. I don't even know if it's a software to start. They, he gives a speech about wine and every single one of them, you pan the camera over to all of them and they're all like falling asleep and they're all looking at them like when will this end? And he gives a speech about wine because again, he went to one winery one time and was told about wine and he thinks he's an expert about wine. And we know lots of people like that. And again, I've been to a million wineries. I don't think I'm an expert about wine, but I know how wine is made. I know that like a red, like a nice, deep-bodied red wine, you should in theory, airy.

50:35Right. Like before you drink it. He was wine-splaining, wine-splaining. But he was like, it really needs to be for 14 hours and everyone's like, no one cares. Right. And they acted like they were the first people to invent wine. Right. And it was so, and I loved that everyone else was just like, I've been to, you know, I've been to Napa Valley where like, you know, American wine country and like, I've been told this story and it's never been this long like I was dying at that. I have a question for you. Do you think she signed up for the show because there are people that told her she looks like Snooki or they, she looks like Kim Kay. And then she was like, oh my god, this is perfect. She's producing Kim Kay. I've been told I'm like the, like the, the Kim Kay of the show. They are. She talks like Courtney. She talks like Courtney, doesn't she? She does talk like Courtney. Yes. Yes, yes. Yes.

51:35Funny. You say Snooki. I literally wrote the dad telling the other dad, this is before I knew their names. Like the dad telling Dallas to quit running your kids like a damn business. Thank you. The whole family is banking on these kids becoming Instagram famous because her mom was not cast on Jersey Shore and Snooki was. That's one of my notes. So Snooki-ish, Snooki adjacent. Again, if it's true, which I believe your child's athleticism comes from the mother. Snooki as an MLB player. No, but just the whole. And again, seemingly their son is good in like whatever and blah blah, but like when I, the parents are so insufferable and they're playing like 2011 reality show and they think that's going to get them to the top. You know what I mean? And meanwhile she, it was so, everything that they did was so rehearsed and staged. And when P, again, when all of you were like every reality show is scripted and like, blah blah blah. And like you tell them what to say and you tell them what to do. This is the proof positive that that is not the case because I would never script anyone

52:36to be this insufferable. Right. What about two different scenes? One where she made sure that the real estate agent like comes by the restaurant. Now Trish seems to be confused. This is why she's not a good reality star because a really good reality star like a Jiselle Bryant, for example, would have picked up on that immediately and said something. Like in the moment, your real estate agent just happens to waltz through the restaurant you didn't talk to her before. But Trish is like a deer in headlights like, and she doesn't put two and two together until later. When I think she just goes along with it because she's not rude and then she's like, oh, wait, this is a sinking ship that I'm putting that I'm hitting my wagon too. I love that throughout the course of the show. Like Nina is the main girl Nina, the saving rates of the show is like the villain. And then as she goes through the show, she gets every single person on her side and like wins everyone over because she's fucking smart. Yes. And even though the first thing of her is her being a monster to like the one coach of the

53:39remember the beginning, she's like, well, I'm not going to apologize in blah blah and like fights with the one coach. I can't believe it. Well, in fairness, she is paying that guy, but like probably an upwards of $40,000. And my question to this guy would be like, who's the top talent that has come out of this place? Exactly. You're asking me basically to go into debt because you're going to lead the way. Take my child to success. Yeah, then like then leave him. Yeah, no period. And again, they fame that is like a scene where you're like, here's how much of a monster she is. One, a monar side. Two, it's like you see that and then she goes into the group and then they're all like she's a monster gets every single one of the monar side, including Trish. The one that hated her so much and thought she was trash blah blah. And then I'm giving you free Pilates, which you know, $50 a head. Like that. But again, Trish is a whole that like doesn't even show up to anything because Nina's there. And then she sees, oh, the only person I still have on my side is this fucking lunatic that's like state, like staging shit and like being so fake. And when I tell you, it was so good that they rolled on her.

54:41It was so fucking good that they showed us that Riley goes over to this woman and is like, here's exactly what you're going to say and here, blah blah blah blah. And here's this and you're going to say this and then you're going to make me look and it I fucking love it because there's so many people that come in a reality TV trying to fucking beat the system and like stage everything and script people. And again, I've said it before on this podcast and I'll say it again, but the house always mother fucking wins. And I fucking love what it does because these people that want to come on here and be fake and not show the real life and be try to hide everything and then try to come out on top and look great. No time for you to get real and make a connection with anyone here. And then you, but she doesn't know how to do that all she knows how to do is be a 2011 reality star and try to be plugging every business that she possibly could. And I think they're the kind of couple that does hire photographer to come and do like photo shoots. 100% Oh, what about the choir at the baseball game? What was that? She had a bunch of people take me out to the ball game.

55:41No, but what was the like, wait, what were they singing it? They were like, go, sell, go, sell, go. Wait, what was it? It was something like that. Like, it was embarrassing. Wait, what was it? Because I was singing it around my head. Like, if you behave like that at a game and you have a son that age, your son would be so would be like, please never come back. Like the parents on the sidelines, I can tell, you know, who's never really played a sport with or on the side of the field going, yeah, you better, my son will death stare the people that, you know, even when you, when the parents are screaming at the opposite team, like, you know, you should have done this. They'll look at like, who are you? Oh, shut up. Like, what is the point? Yeah. No, when she was singing, when they were singing, basically she gets all of her family members quote unquote to come in their all dressed in S4, which is the closing line that her son Mr. T Jr. has and he's 12. But there's a Barlow too. I don't like it. Don't rope your kid into this.

56:42But it's it's so sweaty. It is. It's so sweaty. Do you know what I mean? It's so. And we don't even know if Sal can do basic math and they're making it seem like he is running numbers. He's got to see, oh, oh, he can't make it to baseball because he's got to meet with his executive team. It's a lot of pressure to put on a child to make it seem like he's some business. It's all fake. It's all fake. He's a 12 year old. He's like, he's like, I want to go kayaking. Swim me alone. We can't go kayaking because when you guys are all multi millionaires, then you can go kayaking whenever you want. She says that to her children. I mean, they're that's ridiculous. They're such losers. And again, money over everything. You know what I mean? Like money over they are like, you need to make money. Well, I think they're heavy, heavy, heavy debt to make it seem like they're wealthy for the sake of this show. And I think it's going to come back to haunt them. When the people are like, why do you own your home? And they have to be like, well, here's a 30 minute answer to that question. That shouldn't be. Yeah, what do you say? Everyone knows that you should not have your house and your name.

57:44Who has their house and their own thing? Because again, because it's probably in an LLC that like his father bankruptcy like 75 times. So they basically don't have to pay their mortgage. But again, I hate to chew our own horns, but we would have clocked these people within the first five minutes. I have concerns when people, it takes them a long time to learn someone's a charlatan. I know, but it's also great. But it's a great way to just have a first season because you're like, oh, this family is going to that's going to absolutely crumble over like one question. And that's their entire bottom is going to fall out of their whole lives. If you ask them if they own their home or not, like, right, we got to add some to people. I think we have some people will follow away. I think some people will join. And even like, the felt hackers are gone because I think they made their point, but I don't think they have enough to like keep the keep the stuff going. We need to like up the ante. I think the felt hackers were which one that was Heather and Heather and Scott. I do. I like them though.

58:44I think they're good. I don't think they're enough. I think you need a crazier. If we're going to do this like team moms, baseball things, sure, but I think they're like the ones that are the nice ones. They I disagree. I disagree. I like them. And I found their story of anyone's there is the most compelling personal story for one season. I don't think you more squeeze more out of the the the rag. And Tommy, I know you like them, but I don't think there's enough there. No, but I will say what I say about him is that he is good because he like was like he like got them all to do the like Wild West party. He's like dressing up. He's like, he's the show. He's there to be like in the middle of everything. Whereas then we have on the ends are Nina's and our Riley's. So I'm saying, what do you think they need to do for season two? Nina just does. You know what? I think what you need to do for the next show is that some of the kids are going to leave this academy and go to another one.

59:44And you've got to have you've got to have a conflict between two baseball academies. I think that once this is out, now there's going to be every single mom on the fucking in the school. That school is going to be clamoring to be a part of it. Yeah. And I actually think that's good and then have new ones come in with like dirt on the other people. Yeah. And just give me a little bit more. I think we bring everyone back with some friends or with some new couples and have like 10 families. Trish can go. The nearest can go on someone's like baseball bag or something like I need something more. I know, but I'm saying I bet you that there's more. Poesery behavior happening that we just we like sacrifice and the balladgers can't come back. I'm sorry. They're like it's there's none of them trust them. They're fake. She's not trying to get to know any of them. She said herself. Maybe she needs to go to another baseball academy and then those two schools have to pay each other and they're like, look, it's Dallas and Riley. Yeah. That can't be apples back in the day when Dan's mom's remember that.

1:00:45Like that would be fun. Her defecting to another school would be great. But again, they can't, but she says like I have no friends. Like I don't have any friends and I'm like, yeah, I can't tell. I wonder, you know, where's the rest of those people? Like my children are my best friends. We have they don't let anyone in. That's why because there's a secret central, you know what I mean? The minute it's like, wait, is this our house or not? Like when when Nina goes upstairs in the bedroom and finds that two of the girls are sharing a bedroom in this huge, humongous house, that's odd. That's weird. You know, that is really weird. I, someone needs to get one of those daughters because remember she said they're the older kids and the younger ones. Yeah. They're older kids and just, you know, pull, pull them over on the side of a road and go just give us a load on your family. Also they went on a trip. And episode three, I said, thank you. Oh, and that police that they stayed isn't that where the Beverly Hills, isn't that where the Beverly Hills women stayed when they went to Sedona? Absolutely, right?

1:01:46It's the same house, right? I think it's the same one. I think it was the exact same one. It was, I mean, but again, loved love. I loved it. By the way, should we go visit there? I know. Looking nice. I know. But I loved it. Listen, I loved it. I've kind of liked all the people for the most part. There again, there were some, I kept being like, oh, this is how the rest of the world is. You know what I mean? There's times when we get out of our coastal elite bubble and we see other places and you're like, oh, yeah, they're like 20 years behind us in the sense of like, having a trip style, a trip fashion and style, but then also how they speak to other people. Yeah. I do think if you're coming to this to see elite athletes, this is not the show. It's basically a travel parent show where the dads are the more of the monsters. And again, I love it. It was great. And again, I have no reason to like baseball. I don't want baseball. I think that's why I'm crazy. I don't have kids. You know what I mean? I don't have kids. I don't have kids that are in sports. I don't have any connection to the baseball aspect of this show and I was loving it.

1:02:48And loving it. Well, what are you going to text your friend? I would enough my theories are correct about like the casting of the show. Okay. I want to know who were like great and who like who like the producers liked and who the producers didn't like because I bet you that like the ball dream family was probably so annoying to phone with or so. Yeah, without question. But I think they like the scophonies a lot. Oh, yeah. No, and so do I. I saw if we were out to dinner and they walked in, I'd be like, you're sitting right here with us and we're going to tell us all because they were fun. And yes, she was a mean and yes, she yelled at a kid and but whatever. But that kid was a little bit. That was something I'm going to tell him that he was a little bit. Yeah, I didn't really have a problem with that. Maybe that didn't care. That's horrible. And the only thing that my biggest, the only thing we didn't talk about that I really like feel like we need to say was like, when they go on the trip and then Captain Underpanse John is like trying to yell at me now after she already has the whole conversation about the why she called the kid a little bit for everyone else. And then he was like, but you didn't say it to me. So I need to have a conversation with you and they he goes in so hard on them.

1:03:50And when I see her in her element and she goes, you're not in control here. And she's like, I don't have to answer to you. And you're not the jury. She and then AJ back drop. They decimated Mr and Mrs. Captain Underpanse. And it was so incredible. Because again, I think that Mr. Underpanse is tall and he uses that, you know, to. Yeah, like and it's like, dominate people. I wrote they hit the nail on the head. All right. So I said, Captain Underpanse is triggering me in ways that I didn't know I was able to be triggered. He hit the nail on the head when they told him you're not in control here. That kind of behavior where I need to prove myself to you is so close minded and disgusting. And when he's logically losing the argument, he resorts to threatening violence. Do they need to get off the like buy boring and he was, it was so like male centric where it was like, and if you don't like, if I don't agree that you're like good enough, then

1:04:51like you are like, no, do you know what I mean? Like I'm the judge and jury of you. And if you, and if I don't deem you acceptable, you're like not allowed to be here. And it's like, honey, what are you bringing to the table? Not fucking anything. You're boring and mean to your kid. Well, and you're not even hot. Yes. This is a guy who probably played college football or a million years ago, high school football. And thought he was the man. And he thought I was the man and he thinks his kid is so much better. And in this, in this small pocket of the world, her skill set, he thinks her a star. And he can't wrap his brain around. And then by the end of it, when she was like, and here's why you're a fucking loser, he was like, I love you. He was like, we have the same birthday. He's like, did we just become best friends? And it was like, I loved watching people retreat from you now when they knew that she, and PS not because she was just so mean, but like because she logically fucked their shit up. And then they had to be like, I literally am so out of my depth that this one I just have to become friends with her because I'm terrified that she's going to ruin my life

1:05:53in the best way. Yeah, they're really like, oh, she's just this dumb, polities instructor. And then she fucked their day off because they're all on a reality show together. And this is, you know, Nina probably has watched every episode of every real house for each other. She knows what she's doing. Nina for life, like Nina, if they need a corporation and these guys are like the janitors. If Nina has no fans, I am dead. Like, you know, that thing. But like, it was so good. And that's an episode like two. She like fucks his life. By the way, Nina Scafone is like, I'm the Italian one. I know, I know, when she, wait, we didn't even talk about this. When she's like, oh my God, you guys should come over to my house. Riley, she's genius, PS. Nina's like, Riley, come over and out cook Italian food for us. And we'll like share and I love for Italian stuff. And like Riley comes over and they eat and they're like eating Italian food. And because she made it from scratch and Riley's never cooked a day in her fucking life. It was so good. And she and Riley knew that was a dig on her and what she was setting up that she didn't

1:06:55even know anything about Italian culture. Because remember whenever they were like, we asked Sal to talk about like Italian food and the kids are like, what Italian food your favorite? And he's like, I don't know. It's like, you wear an Italian flag every day. You can't say spaghetti. And he goes like, Carponeira. I was like, I love, I love it. That she was setting her up to fail to have been like, you're not even Italian. Right. It was great. And that's when she's playing chess and this girl's playing Uno. Notice that's when Riley went after her bad was and she was like, fuck she's setting me up to like look bad. You know, what a show. What a show. So we're recommending it. We tell them people to go take a look at it. You know, it's a really good show to binge too. It's a percent of the weekend when you're binge. I binge it. I was like fiending for more episodes. Like I went, it was like an episode when I was like, play the next one. I was loving. And when it gets, like, are you honestly watching the show? No, he's like, what is this?

1:07:57He's like, these like white idiots on this show and I was like, huh? Yeah. I have to say too that scrolling through TikTok, I found it was more men that were commenting on the show. I think a lot of men are really enjoying it. And here's something much like back in the day with like Southern charm and like the interpop rules. Like it gives men the opportunity to like be gossipy, which is seen as such like a female negative, like this is what women do when it's bad thing. But like men are so gossipy, especially men's sports is so gossipy and it's such a, I mean, what is sports center other than to like have men give takes on like what's happening in the sports world? Do you know what I mean? Again, this should have been team dads. Yeah, but like it gives, so they're like, I'm so great and here's why I'm so great and blah, blah, blah. But you know what I mean? Yeah. And I'm, I was loving it. Well, there you go, friends. Tell everybody where they can follow you and listen to your show. You can follow me at the Christopher Rosa.

1:08:58You can follow my show at Fixing Famous People. And that's it. We just had our first live show that was a huge success. Yeah. And that's, I will tell them what the who you were fixing this week. Who are you fixing this week? We just fixed Doja Cat. And we also just fixed your friend, Sia, by the way. And we are fixed this week. We're fixing Greg Keneer, I believe, who I love. But I'm like, why aren't you why? Give me get a good role. I need an Oscar nom, you know, he's so funny. I love God. You know, so good. And we're talking about tomorrow. Well, I don't know when this is coming up. But this week we are talking about the Swan documentary, which I listened to your episode on and interviewed the girls. What a incredible episode of this podcast. Miss Rihanna, your life with KKC. Thank you so much. You did such a good job. Yeah, I loved it. Thank you. I'll be eager to hear what you think, but my takeaway was it was really like a friendship story about the women that part to speed and show together. I'm only half way through it, but my, unless maybe they get into this later, but like,

1:09:59I'm surprised they don't go after the doctors more in the sense of like, this was a show that was like really just trying to like advertise plastic surgery and the doctors are a part of it, which I don't feel they haven't gotten enough smoke about that yet, which I know I'm saying like, yeah, I say that in my opening too. I feel like it was these, these doctors were like, of course, let me do as many surgeries as possible because I want to show people that I can do face, I can do boobs, I can do ears, I can do all these things. And here's my surgery that only I can do. And like every person's going to come flocking to me like to get the surgery that they got, you know? Yeah. But I have to say having a friend who does plastic surgery and has worked on housewives, he said that he told me this like a couple of years ago that now a lot of plastic surgeons are terrified of doing reality stars because if it's something doesn't work out, that it's all over. It's like you can't. It's all over. It's you can't be like, Oh, who are you? What? Yeah. Yeah. Like a member of the woman, remember that woman that came in and was like, you botched my boob job, Dr. Dubrow.

1:11:00Yeah. And then she went away and never was seen again. I also like every single thing that you hear in the documentary about the way that the show is presented to this women and then also what they did in the show is like, oh, that's like this is why there are so many protections today, like legally for the people that go on these shows is because there was zero for these people and it went off the fucking rails like you don't I mean, like every time it's like, I'm like, oh, that would just that wouldn't even be like a thought that we would have like today because it just doesn't make any sense. And it's one terrible for the people and also to like legally unsound. You don't even think it's even the protections of like if my tooth falls out, you are legally obligated to repair it. Yeah. None of that existed. No, like they forgot about that. And they just like handed over their their like entire like I'm on the part now where they're like opening the curtain to see the people and just see their reaction. And then when I tell you like, it's like, I'm like, oh, my God, imagine just not seeing

1:12:03yourself for three months and then being able to. Well, they say that was psychologically damaging, but also said it wasn't reflective of even the way they looked in their real life. Like an ugly prom dress, weird hair extensions with dye, the lips like that makeup lashes. So it didn't look anything even remotely like the way that they would look. And then they were like so terrified and then they have to be like, I love it. Then they would make them like do it over again, like four times. That would be that. That's not enough. You see, other thing is like we would never do that today. Like ever. Like if they saw themselves and hated it, that's then the story. That's it. Just like, I love it. But the thing is is that they needed it to be like, and here's like God on Earth, all of these doctors, including Terry DeBroke coming out to like hug you and say like you're welcome that we made you not an ugly bitch, you know what I mean? And it's like the woman who created the show insisted that she be the life coach. Oh, charlatan definition. It's like all you would need to see was that and then you're like, this is why this show

1:13:06was made. So this woman could become famous off of it. And by the way, I say it in the episode, I don't know if you got to the part yet, but I'm like, have you looked at her Instagram lately? No. And Erin Lee Carves like, no, why? I said, oh, she posted a picture of herself with Gloria Steinem who just. Oh, yeah, I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I did get. She was like, yeah, that tracks. Uh-huh. And she was like, she probably looked up to her and was like, I'm your biggest fan. Please take a picture with me. And then it said she like wrote like she wrote like me and Gloria like two meeting of the mind that happened today. We're like, Gloria inviting me to her home, but I couldn't go. So we met here. And then we had this discussion and I let it like, you know, yes. Uh-huh. What a surprise. I mean, I think that's the thing that I thought was really interesting too was Erin has done all these true crime docs, but she's like, this has been so meaningful to me because I found all these friends. And she says at the end of the episode, she said, look, look, I'm getting married in two weeks. I love my husband and all of that. But you got to have girlfriends. You got to go on girls trips. Yes, I love that speech from her.

1:14:06You need that. Yes, I love that speech. I mean, again, at the end of the Sex and the City was like the biggest relationship you have is the little one with yourself and your friends. Yeah. So again, that's why I said this is really like a love story of like women finding their voices and friends. And again, the true crime documentary is like, it's bleak and sometimes very exploited, like exploitative. Like, you know what I mean? You're like, tell me the worst thing that ever happened to you and tell me all about it. And like, they, and then you're like, okay, bye. And then, bye. That's it. And then filmmakers about that, like, how did you go into this to ensure that they're not retraumatized? And they don't. That's it. Do they give you good hand? There are a lot that do that do a poor job, but there are there are people that I think do very good job. Of course, of course, but there are a lot of them are women. Yeah, of course, there's that. By the way, there's a Netflix true crime doc about to come out. It's called the widower. This man at six wives, four of them died. Ring, ring, ring, ring. Oh God.

1:15:06Oh no. We got a problem here, folks. Um, there you go. That's it. Love is blind coming down the pike. Oh my God. I already just sent me the screeners. Fuck really? And it shall begin. Yeah. Okay. Wait, although more Murphy saw the trailer and she texted me. My friend from college, she's from Boston. Dad Boston coped mom, Boston teacher and she's like, I swear to the fucking God. She's real mad about the trailer. And I told her that she may need to just jump in to one of our combos and just like give us the label. Yeah. I would love that. I would love a Boston consultant in the armor set. Just to be like, and now to you. And this is what you need to know. And tell me about this. Is this normal or no? And I would, I'm down. And you got to ask her about her mom taught Bobby Brown. No. Yeah. But it's going to be a lot of, I'm just going to warn you. It's going to be like, you got to be fucking kidding me. That entire experience was just like, what do you mean? That's right. I'm, what do you mean?

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