
EP 129 - Mark Domizio - Diego Garcia - Navy Black Project Survivor
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And this is a really big, really big step for him. So this is. There's some information in this testimony that might be a little hard to handle. Some traumatic stuff that he went through. But you know, we're here to help and we're here to hear him out. And give him a chance to tell a story. So welcome to the show, Mark. Well, and before we get started really quick guys, just as a reminder. Aaron and I will be speaking at Sedona fit great family of light gathering conference July 23rd through to 25th tickets are on sale. If you want to come hang out with us there, grab a ticket. And the week and before that is eSetti tickets are on sale for that conference. Mark, I know you're familiar with eSetti and James. I know you've done some work with him. So that's really, that's really cool. But I will actually be speaking at that conference myself. I'm going to be telling some of my story that some of you guys have heard a lot of stuff that none of you guys have heard.
So I'm excited to get a chance to do that. So if you want to come hang out with us, head down to either one of those places. And we'd love to meet you. That being out of the way, how's it going? Mark. Pretty good. Pretty good. So. I guess I'll give you a chance, the opportunity to let people know why you decided to come forward and why this is so important for you. Because, you know, this is something that's been weighing on you for quite some time. Okay. Well, some of the reasons are just the images of, you know, a lot of people have been killed. And just a lot of the horrible things that went on in the theater of Garcia. And also, I know there's probably a lot of people waking up right now and getting sick in that place. So I just want to let them know that no matter how bad it was, there is a way out. You can find out different things and you can find out, you know, who your guide is.
Is really one of the main things that got me through this was a session with James, where I met my, my main guide. And that kind of unfolded. Why you do what came because we incarnate for these experiences, you know, it's not a victim. Thank you. I incarnated for this experience. And then the question was why, you know, so I just, it's a good path to go. You can find out a lot of stuff. I learned a lot from James Session. You know, I found out why, what was my beneficial life? What's the one that's affecting this incarnation the most? And that is actually how I found out, you know, why I incarnated to go through this experience. So besides that, there's a lot of people I know they're suicidal. I was suicidal for years. I just want them to know there's, there is a way out. You can get in contact with me.
I'll give you my email. Suzanne Spinner has a lot of people ready for QHHT sessions. Because that is the path out to that that's going to get you memories going. Yeah. And I'll actually, I'll put that session in the description guys. So Mark has a, or Suzanne released a session with Mark that she had done a QHHT session. And if you guys are, if you guys are at all compelled to listen to it after hearing this, I will go check that out because it's really interesting. Anyway, go ahead. And there's just a lot of people I, I may have gone missing during that period, you know. And this is how these people go missing, you know, you're adopted into these things. Well, so I guess I really want to spend some time on the recruitment process.
Because that's what grounds this whole testimony, that's what makes this thing real, you know. But we hear about the time in the programs off planet and all that stuff. But when you have something solid that you can actually verify here that took place in your 3D life, that's where it becomes real. So if you want to start there. And then we'll go from there. Sure. It was 1981, summer. I just turned 23. And I was unemployed. I had a friend that was living in apartments right near me too. He was unemployed. And we just, he went into the Air Force. And then I decided to listen to the Navy. So I went down and took the Navy tests. They got back to me in a few days. And, you know, they wanted me to sign up right away.
So I heard some stories that would just put you on the boat. You'd be peeling potatoes or something, you know. So I asked to have an lightning that I would be able to take the physical tests to get into Navy SEALs. It's actually, but this is what it's called. What's it called? Sorry. It just cut out for a second. It's called what? It's called buds. Buds? EUDS. Yeah. It's the training you go through to see if you can actually get into the SEALs out of boot camp. So I asked for that in writing. And a couple days later, I called him back and said, you know, they couldn't do that. But what they could do is give me that they give me the copy of the test. And I could train. And when I felt I was ready, then I could sign up and go through boot camp. And then I'd be ready for the test. And how old were you at this time? 23. 23.
And 23. Okay. So, you probably just gave me two days and he started pounding me. Yeah. I was like, when do you think you're going to be ready? You know, that's. So I was training. I had a swimming pool. You know, okay, to use a swimming pool. So I was training with all that, doing everything. About three weeks into it, he just kept harping on me. And also, I got a job too. So I was unemployed at the end of the year. So I was starting to lose interest. And he just kept bugging me. And I finally just, you know, told him off, told him off calling me. And I didn't hear from him for about two months. And two months he called me and said, don't hang up. I got this guy that wants to meet you. You know, come down to this local bar.
You know, so I went down to the local bar. And, you know, I spent a lot of time in that drink. So I went to the bartenders. And most of the people in this bar, I went down in there. And as soon as I walked in, the bartender was back in order. He was like, there's two guys. Military guys waiting for you on the booth over there. So I went and sat down with the, on the one side where the recruiter was. I sat with him. And the guy that I was called Bill, was on the other side, really dark energy. Just one of those guys like Charles Manson, you know, he couldn't go anywhere without everybody just feeling his nasty energy. And he was just started writing on me. So you're unemployed, you know, all that stuff that you're unemployed.
You know, trying to make me feel bad about myself. He knew what all the buttons to push. And him and I started going at it. So the recruiter, you know, said, let me get your beer. And so I slid out, he slid out with me and stood up. And then he leaned in and said, listen to this guy. Now, it's really important guy. Just listen to what he has to say. So I sat down on the booth. And he continued his just making fun of me. And he felt like it is a shit. So then he finally, we were really kind of getting on each other's nerves. He came back, the recruiter comes back with the beer, slides in on the side. And, you know, I'm drinking it pretty fast because I was pissed off. And I knew people behind us, behind him in the booth.
And they could hear everything they were saying. You know, I was kind of like getting embarrassed. So I was like, let's go outside and do this, you know. And I think he was probably going to do that first. He asked me to know what, if we want to go outside, continue the conversation. So I slammed the beer down. We went outside. He had a van. I got in the back, you know, a little cat and stereo back there. And he started, it was just him at this point. The recruiter stood outside. I don't know what the hell was going on there. But he had a clipboard with some papers on it. And he said, listen, give me two years. You'll never want to come back. It's not the adventure of a lifetime. And nobody will know you're gone. And pretty much right when he was saying that
I could feel something kicking in. You know, I started to feel he dropped me. Oh, with the beer. Yeah, recruiter had popped something in there. So, you know, I kind of knew they had me at that point. I just said, you didn't have to do that. You didn't have to drug me. I was going to sign up anyway. And I signed the paper and I woke up in the front seat of a car with him driving. And it was still dark out. And, you know, I just woke up and I looked at him and I said, you know, I didn't finish my swimming part of the test. You kind of grew and you said, you know, don't worry about that. We're going to be training you. In one second, you're enjoying your first day off in forever. Then, mid-lunch, your phone buzzes.
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And he took me to Canada, New Jersey. So we started out in Pennsylvania. In a place called Downfront, Pennsylvania. He drove to Camden. We pulled down this little street. It kind of seemed like it was near this river. And it was a brick building. And it just said medical center. And he pulled up to a door. And he said, if you really want to do this, I need to see you going that door by yourself. And he said, I think he gave me a card with his name on it. So it gives us to them when you get in there. And I'll see you at the base. When you get done training. And I said, OK, walk in the door. And there was a nurse in there. And I gave her the card.
And that's when I really remembered his name from. I think that was any time I ever saw it writing. So it was Captain William McIntyre. McIntyre. Famous one. But he wasn't that guy. What is a Captain William? McIntyre. McIntyre. OK. Yeah. So I had, you know, this is like 1981. So my hair was kind of long. I had a beard. Kind of like now. Kind of like now. First similar. Yeah. The only difference was as I had like an 80s shirt on. Yeah. The big collar and shit. So it was military people. I was feeling like really uncomfortable. And they had me waiting in the hallway. So I took off the, I took off that shirt. I had T shirt on me. And I showed it in the trash game. You know, because I just, I thought, you're going in the military.
Start getting your head into it. Got rid of those clothes. She came out a little bit later. And then they had me lay on this table. It's like almost like we put your luggage. Look, you're carrying on in a plane. It was very similar to that. It was enclosed around my feet. You know, or something. I don't really remember because. I think they did something. They gave me a shot or something before. I kind of felt a little dopey. You know, when I lay down on the table. And I just lay down on that table. And next thing I know she was shaking me. Just saying, wait, you know, you need to tell us about. I couldn't even understand what she's saying. You need to tell us about something you did. And we can't use you, you know. And it was really weird. And my next memory is. I was waking up in a field. That was right near the apartments where I lived.
It was daylight. So. For years, all I had was. I went to the bar and I woke up in a field. That little bit later. I didn't remember that in driving me. I didn't even remember. I didn't even remember going to the bar. Who I met until my mother told me. That I had gone to need to recruit her. Wow. So that was pretty much for a while. You know, so anyway, as soon as I got a chance. I woke up that next day once a work. Started calling that recruiters. Record. And he's not there. You know, I kept calling. So as soon as I got a chance, I went to. I went to him to the recruiter. And, you know, it was a. All the military was there. So one of the guys just said, you know, they rotate out a lot. He's gone.
So. I had, you know, dead in there. And this is like 81. So, you know, there's no cell phones. I actually had to go to that location to find out what the hell was going on. And I went back to the bar. My. The bartender told me he said, maybe. Turned out. So he knew they were maybe guys. And he was just like, well, what the hell are you doing? There's maybe guys, you know. And I tried to find out like, what, what happened? What do you know? And he just said, you got in the band took off. Really. That was pretty much it. You know, I chased that around for a couple of weeks. But it just was driving crazy. You know. And then I'm in the suit. You know, I got suicidal. Because you just, you just can't make anything out of it. I remember training. You know, I, two days afterward, I would say. I remember training. I knew something happened.
You know, I knew, I knew I was somewhere. I remember being in a white t-shirt, short hair. And hot sun and sand training, you know. So, you know, just went through the suicidal stage. O.D. And then a few months later, O.D. began. And then I met my wife and I just kind of just put it to rest. You know, there's nothing I could do about it. So I kind of went on with my wife and then I would say around. Okay, let me back all through that from that period on. I had dreams where I would scream, talk aloud, yell up people, just have conversations, you know. But it was always screaming at somebody. And that started at that point and went on. So, and then my wife then said, she never knew anything different
besides those dreams, you know. She didn't know that there was a period where I didn't have them. And she still married you. Yeah. I'm messing with you. You're doing such a good job telling your story. I don't even have to ask any questions. Oh, cool. No, that's really fascinating. Yeah. Yeah, we are. It's, it's fascinating now looking back on. Sure, sure. Yeah. So, I didn't really have anything to go on occasionally. I would get drunk and tell somebody about this Navy SEAL. He was interested in me, but I hadn't like ending to that story. I just knew he met, I met him, but I never knew what that'll happen. And it got really bad around 2015, you know. The memories started coming out. So many memories of being in a great uniform and shooting people and just all kinds of bizarre memories, you know.
So, I just really, what the hell is going on? So, in 2015, it really just got too much. That's true. 2016 is when I had my first session with Suzanne Spinner. So, okay. You started getting memories back via Dream State during the day. What did this look like? Dreams. Dreams, okay. Yeah. And they weren't, I guess the thing that would have told me they weren't dreams. They were the same. They're repeated. They were the same thing. Maybe a little different ending. Like, sometimes I would have a gun and I couldn't squeeze the trigger, you know. Or start falling apart in my hand or something. But the rest of it was all in them, you know. So, there was several of them. There's probably about four of them that were repeaters that I had a lot. And they were the most traumatic ones. I guess, experiences I had while I was in there.
And that was pretty much it. I mean, it just got out of hand out to the point where I was just seeing this. I would dream and see so much stuff. I wake up feeling like I'd been a war, you know. Yeah. I once saw her in 2016. And I really couldn't take much from English. But it was verified that, yes, I did go with that guy. I wasn't a project. And one of the first dreams I had that bothered me was, I had this encounter. We got to Lee and Lowe was in there. And that was the first thing that pushed through. That was probably the scariest thing that happened to me. So it was the first memory. You know, I couldn't talk when I see him. Prior to that session, did you have any concept of a reptilian? No. No. So this is all new.
I had heard about, I believe Corey Good and other people were coming out at that point. And you know, here's another thing that was really stretched. Another reason why I went to Suzanne too. I was, I saw a Randy Kramer. His experience really is nothing like mine. It's seven people actually. I forget what it was. But when Randy Kramer came on, I hysterically just started crying. Wow. And I was like, with the hell is that? You know, that's very similar to Johan's reaction to hearing Corey's testimony. Yeah. He didn't know what to do. He had to actually shut it off. His whole body had a physical reaction. And that's when his memory started coming. And I actually started to get a little bit than two. And I thought, am I taking, is it their memories? And I'm thinking, you know, I'm thinking they're mine or whatever.
But I tried to, again, the next day. And the same thing. Just uncontrollable crying. So that was one of the reasons why I went to Suzanne too. And so I did find out in the first session, yes, I saw a reptilian. And I did go in that program. Wow. And what was the experience with the reptilian like, do you have any, like, memory of what it looked like and what happened? Oh, yeah, yeah. I full memory of that now. Yeah. What happened was just in the program, you know. We were coming back from in place one day. They were like huge golf carts, you know. And I guess I saw something, this is totally out of character for me too. I don't know why, however, do this.
But I saw something that I wanted to check out. We got back to the base. I snuck out of the base one over to this place. And I peered in the window. And as soon as I left in the window, about 50 feet in there was a reptilian with a craft behind him. To the left of him was the guy that I know. Now, know is the common dot of the dumb. And the base. Okay. I just was two seconds. You know, I was there. They were on the back, on my back, two dot of guards. And you weren't supposed to be there looking at him. No, I wasn't as supposed to be in the air. Okay. Yeah. So I got tortured in question for that. What the hell was it there? You know, they would check, I guess they would check what information they had about you just to make sure it was right.
I was just tortured like, is this your name? Were these your parents? You know, that kind of stuff. Making sure they have the right information on. And then they were like, you know, why were you there? You know, all the stuff. I didn't know anything. So that was like that two or three days. And then the reptilian came in at one point. And you got right up on me. And he looked at me and I just heard it in my head. And I heard him say, you've seen us before. And that was it. He walked away. I couldn't even talk. You know, I was still froze up when I saw him. I just was froze up. I can imagine. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was it for him.
But that was that was actually once I got in the program for a while. So it sounds like there's a lot here to get through. In one second, you're enjoying your first day off in forever. Then mid lunch, your phone buzzes. A window has been broken at home and your miles away. In one second, everything can change. That's why ADT offers security systems with 24-7 monitoring, with tech that helps first responders prioritize your emergency. And with the ADT Plus app, you can stay informed and in control of your home from virtually wherever you are. When every second counts, count on ADT. Visit ADT.com to learn more. Step into the world of power, loyalty and luck. I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse. With family, conoles and spins mean everything. Now, you want to get mixed up in the family business. Introducing the Godfather at chumbacaceno.com.
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I had a memory of being, of stepping up rafts. And in my underwear. And this woman had her hand out so I could step down the two, three steps out of this craft. And the thing that I knew wasn't a dream was, is because I wear contacts. And it was my vision without my contacts. Everything was blurred. You know, all the lights had that. So the next day, I woke up and I was like, what the hell was that? That was when I went in 2019. That was one of the things I verified. You know, yes, you were abducted. Interesting. They found that I went to Suzan in 2016. So he abducted me to find out what memories I had coming back. And it's interesting. It's interesting to you said, mentioned that about the contacts. We've actually interviewed somebody, actually Cassandra,
a Cocoa Beach testimony. She has an abduction story where she remembers. She remembers it because she always wears all this jewelry. And she remembers being wherever she was. But looking down at all her jewelry was out. And she was seeing it like on this tray or something. And that was the one thing that made it real for her that she knew. Yeah, exactly. And she knew that they had taken her jewelry out for some reason. So. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. So then. I guess then you started getting Diego Garcia memories back after after this. And just for the people who don't know Diego Garcia is an island in the Indian Ocean. Between Africa and what? It's between African and India. In India. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so Diego Garcia is actually a military base. It's a known military base on that island. A lot of whistleblowers claimed that it's like a jump point to the moon for the SSP.
And then there's there's definitely obviously from your testimony and some other ones we've heard. There is underground portion of it, which where you're where a lot of your memories come from. Yeah. Yeah. And what part of the story did you get the information about the Malaysia flight 370. They went missing. I had that about two months before the session. Because that that is actually a memory of Hans. Okay. Because. Okay. We'll get into that. Yeah. But the memory I have of it is of him is. It's horrible. Then then moving the bodies down through freight elevators. Down through the dumb down to the tunnels. And then the reason I know about it is because Hans knew the tunnels.
Pretty much like nobody else. So he knew where they could deposit the bodies. From the memory I have. Well, let's let's back up just for the people who are totally confused about who Hans is. Hans is basically your clone who was used in the programs. You know, you know, it's a confusing thing. I think maybe we should clear that. Here's here is it is like in a nutshell. Just like everybody else, when you go in the program, you are cloned. I think Tony Rodriguez was the first one to actually think that you. He was the first one I heard say. I think I was cloned. So that's what technology is. I found out from a couple other people that what is it say alien soul splitting technology. It splits your soul. Your clone goes off. You're in the project. You're doing that.
Programs. And then your other ones here. Now they put the memories back right away. So I don't know what's going on with the time thing. But the only difference is between that story. I'm two years into it and they basically tortured my soul out of that bug. It's the same clone. Same body. I had the whole time in the programs. It's just they tortured a soul out. So at that point, I'm no longer in it. It's just like a, it's just like a vessel. Sick of that. A emotionless vessel. As my as my intelligence. Has everything else, but no, no emotion, no conscience. Okay, so. I mean, when I will add during the session, when I can see in his mind,
there's nothing going on. There's nothing really. It's just way, it's like it's just like a computer waiting for a command. Yeah. And that's probably the conditioning. I mean, that's probably exactly what they want. That's where the torture comes comes in. But anyway, that's kind of how it is. It's not too clones. It's the same body. It's just like Corey good or anybody else. It's the same body. It's just that they did that experimentation. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So we a lot of most, most of our audience knows how that process works. Right. To a certain extent, I think it's really still a mystery like down to some of the details. But we understand the 20 and back, the age regression, the clone, the soul splitting. I mean, there's a lot that goes on to even achieve this and pull it off. Yeah. And I hear there's not just one kind. You know, there's two or three, there's like three or four, I think, technologies to use.
Yeah, that's what he's. Yeah. That's what Tony Rodriguez says about. Yeah, he goes, there's more than one way to make a clone. Yeah. Yeah. So I really want to touch on the flight 370 information. Okay. That's a good way to set that. If we're at that point now, because. I'm actually going to share something that. Coat my. Well, I was researching the night before you emailed me about the flight 370 was just like, this is an immediate. Validation for me. That this is what might have happened to this flight. There's two things of this. There's what you heard my high self say, all that information on the session. And there's what I can remember that I saw through Hans' eyes.
Okay, good. Well, I'll tell you the first one is what I saw through Hans' eyes. I remember, what I would call topside base. You know, the base on the top. I remember some people getting that going out of the slide, the old slide, emergency slide out of the side of the plane. Next memories I have are just horrible memories of she trade elevators full of bodies being used to light, just pallets of bodies being used to light. From the plane, like dead bodies are alive. Oh, yeah, they're dead bodies at this point. Yeah, so somewhere between there and, you know, obviously the trade elevators they were killed. My memory is just, you know,
a bunch of bodies. We need to vehicles. And Hans is directing where they go. And Hans is basically, it's you. It's, but that's me with this all. Yeah, what happened was they tortured and instilled a serial number on the name. So it's 08, 5, 9, 7, 1. Hans, and that was it. So that's your identity in the programs then. That's what they call them. Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, usually it wasn't a number, it was just Hans. And actually, you know, when we get into it, you find out that, you know, for 34, 35 years, he was kind of like Bill's private assassin. And Bill, was he a recruiter? Bill is, Bill is that Navy SEAL?
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Okay. I just originally thought it was just some top secret stuff, but that's what it was. I think he said it was a Japanese passenger. Were they planning on doing anything with the information? Or they just, they just happened to have that one passenger stole that hard drive. Oh, okay. Taking it away, they found that he was on a, um, get that hard drive back. All that just to get that hard drive back. And, and regardless. So the plane went missing in the public eye bait. What you told me was that it was rerouted to Diego Garcia. And they said the official story was that it crashed in the ocean. Or they didn't know what happened to you. They couldn't find the wreckage somehow, which doesn't make any, I mean, we all knew it when that happened. We're like, okay, something else happened here. Nothing, nothing adds up to about this.
Right. Diego, if you look, I'm, um, um, mine's up, there's nothing else out there. Yeah. So I'm actually, so this is, from a carrycassity's book, Rebel Jean, and she, she's just sharing what one of her insiders told her. And I literally read this like right before you emailed me about the, first time I had ever heard that the plane was rerouted to Diego Garcia, and then you emailed me and told me that. Uh, I could try and remember all this. I'm just going to skim through it really quick because I actually think it's important. It doesn't line up exactly, but still we know something's going on there. Uh, it says there was a disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. Flight 370 was scheduled. Was a scheduled flight in early morning on March 8, 2014, from Malaysia to Beijing. Uh, full of employees from the high tech breakaway branch of Motorola, working on a free scale semiconductor,
who's office happens to be in Israel. And, uh, word was was that the employees on the flight were highly competent super users who may have compromised the brain trust behind their nearest sky net type chip that was even in a mainstream referred to as the command and control chip. In other words, a central chip that can manage and override other AI components. But, but this is where things get interesting. The plane didn't go down, but instead was rerouted using the known verified Boeing autopilot as substantiated by the investigator team able danger. The rerout was to the Diego Garcia, a toll where any unnecessary passengers were then brainwifed and sent to third row countries where they were condemned to wonder around homeless with amnesia for the rest of their lives. This is what I was told by a context. That's what Kerry says. Now, whether or not that contact had the real story or not,
that's up to, she even follows it up says she goes, I do get stories from different whistleblowers sometimes that contradict each other, so use discernment. Part of it's true. Part of it's. And then, and those people live. Yeah. Yeah. They're not going to take that chance. You know, and, you know, we're just talking about this plane, but we all know there's several planes. If you start investigating, there are a lot of the planes that went down. It's because there's one person on there. Yeah. But either way, we have two sources now saying that plan was we rerouted the Diego Garcia. And. And what happened after that? It seems like it would be a lot harder to mind wipe everybody and plant them in third row countries than it would be just to eliminate them. If the, if the public thinks they're all gone anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're really disgusting people. I mean, they had the people get off the plane probably so they,
they wouldn't have to go through all that effort. Yeah. They had, they off the plane so they could kill them because they killed them on the plane. And, you know, it's much harder to take all those bodies out. They're, they're horrible people, man. So it's, you know, the Diego, or the Malaysia flight is actually just, I know it's probably big to you, but the other stuff is just the most disgusting stuff to me that I saw in Ireland. And the fact that the Navy was behind it all, you know. There's nothing else on Diego. There's, there's the Navy. It's it. Yeah. I mean, that came in contact with his, this is the usual set up then. It's a Navy and, the, positions on power are Germans. Yeah. The common down German. He was in charge of that,
the dumb guy. He was in charge of the prison. He was German. So there we go again with the Germans. And so the reason I even, the reason I think this is important is because it helps verify your testimony. And I remember telling you about this and you had no idea that this was in her book. 2020. This book came out last year. Okay. So I don't know, I don't know what that information was given to her, you know, she's just relaying that in this book. Regardless, it just helps her case. This is why. Yeah, it does. It's, it's one of the most disgusting things. It's actually that and, you know, there's probably 40, from what I can tell, like, 40 summers of haunts. That and then Malaysia flight, seeing all those bodies, that's a big reason why I have to do this. In one second, you're enjoying your first day off in forever. Then mid-lunch,
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So that was my anytime, topside, probably about four or five weeks, who went through basic training, kind of like, seal training, like, bud training, a lot of the stuff that they use. You know, you see telephone poles and all that stuff that they use and training. And after that, then we went to a base down the dump. And if we were number one through eight, there was eight of us. It's just otherwise my group. We weren't allowed to, you know, when we ate, we sat three or four seats apart, never talked. You were giving your neck, your number, and we got there. I was number one. And that was it. Don't talk to anybody, don't talk to each other. You know, they gave you that forget your names, forget your family, stuff when we got there. And then we, we trained as partners, like we break off from partners and stuff.
But that's at the point, after basic, the eight of us were moved down into another into the dump. And we stayed a little air in that base. And that, I was probably there just two weeks and then the real bullshit started. I thought we were going to do something because he was a Navy SEAL. And honestly, I was totally gone at it at this point. It's probably why he gave me number one. I was totally into it. I thought we were going to do something good, and I thought I'm just going to give it a hundred percent here. So, he, I guess I was trained first. The first time was he started to take, he took me into the tunnels. So there's the dump. And then there's different areas. It's more of a military area of that dump base. And it's connected by tunnels, like you would see when you drive, you know, you drive through mountain, same type of
tunnels. That would connect little areas of the dump. So there was more of a civilian area. You know, there's people walking around. And it was always like, it was just like a city at night, 24 a.m., no, no, no daylight. And we walked. It was just me and Bill. And we were in playing clothes. So we were going to, he was going to take me down there. We went down, we were walking down the street in the dump. And he came to this area where there was a big square gate opening. And we went down there. I was wild. We climbed down there, going and we started going through the tunnels. And he took me to a place. It was just open. It was like square. And there was just
people over like barter, pieces of clothing, food, you know, it's really weird. It's like a flea market almost, you know, they were all ground there and they had like raggy clothes. There's like a 55 gallon drum cut off and they were cooking food in it, like a soup and stuff. It was just bizarre. So he took me through there and I shouldn't know better. So next time he took me in, that was going to be my first adoption. So they went kind of wanting to start her like earning right away. So we went down there. I think I helped him adopt some tunnel people. That's what we call them.
If you didn't do anything to the adoption, so what would happen when I said say, okay, here's what we're going to do. Here's what you're going to do. You do this. You do that. If you said, well, what did the guy do or something like that? And you got what they call a retreat. They're taking it to everything was done in the wet room, the concrete wet room, chair in the middle, and you know, straps, you strap them with a chair, ankles, arms, chest. And then, you know, they would be to leave you in there for a couple of days, whatever, trying to just so you would not ask any questions. Take orders, no hesitation. That's what it was all about. So they beat you or it didn't really work well on me and I got drowned a lot. You know, like a waterboarding, put something in your head, like a sheet.
We're just drowning. So after that, then I was like, okay, you know, I mean, you just get pushed into it, pushed into it and just want this to stop. So I was taken, I was trained for this one deduction. You know, I had to have a drive, but be able to do some stuff, accomplice, and anyway, we went and I abducted him, took him over, gave him off to them, and then they took the guy away. And after that, they were like, that's what we want you to do every time. We're gonna expect you to act like that for now, no hesitation, don't need to ask any questions. So, you know, I did like one more mission, we were actually off planning. And I started getting the idea of escaping at this point. You know, I had already had you
would be able to, the reptilian, and I was getting tired of getting beaten, tortured, you know, it really, I thought it was going to be totally different. I thought literally we were going to do something good, you know, but it was nothing good, but we were telling you. So how did you get off planet? Would it that look like portal? That was a portal. There was this, I don't know what you'd call it, it was mag trains, you know. Yeah. That's how we traveled like, this is why I got the idea to escape. I didn't know where hell it was. I would never try to escape. The one mission I did where I abducted the guy was in the United States. I knew I was in the United States, I knew I was in the South, you know, and I figured, okay, well we're in the United States. When we did the off planet one, I was starting to think, I'm going to escape. If I get, since I get a chance, I'm going for it. So I don't know how we actually got
there. It was just, you know, we're, I don't know if we got an elevator or it was the car and we just got out, but we were just there. And it was a, I think there's some types of portals right there and there you go. Oh, I'm sure. 100% there is. Yeah, it is. So it was, I found out in a session later on from my high self that it was a moon of another planet. He wouldn't tell me what planet because you know, I would spend a lot of time investigating. So it must be something kind of local. They were, it was nighttime. Everything we did was always night. And then I trained climbing a lot for this mission. So we got there. We had black jumpsuits on me and a guy scaled up this. It was almost like a figure, a big weight, like almost like a gingerbread man, strange. We went
out there. We lit fire to it. And then we were supposed to drop down the other side and start hurting people. They were abducting a bunch of people. And it was, they were really primitive people. Yeah. Oh, very. Yeah. It was really primitive people. I didn't know what the hell was going on to start. Once we got down the other side, then we started cruising down this hill. And you know, it's the farther you got away from the burning thing, the less late there was. So there was a crowd of these people. You never heard of my cattle. I was up towards the right and then crowd of people started just going off. And I thought, well, I'm just going to go with it and get separated from these guys. You know, and I did that. So I went over and I just was going running with the people. And it was pitch black. We got down to like a river. And they were jumping on like a canoe
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So it was they wanted you to seem like they wanted to kill somebody just to get it under the belt just to get it over with. So, you know, Bill was pushing on me to kill somebody. So that was another reason why I just wanted to escape. In one second, you're enjoying your first day off in forever. Then mid lunch, your phone buzzes. A window's been broken at home and your miles away. In one second, everything can change. That's why ADT offers security systems with 24-7 monitoring with tech that helps first responders prioritize your emergency. And with the ADT Plus app, you can stay informed and in control of your home from virtually wherever you are. When every second counts, count on ADT. Visit ADT.com to learn more. Step into the world of power, loyalty and luck. I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse. With family, conoles, and spins mean everything. Now, you want to get mixed up in the family business.
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wind up doing something. I really regret it. So after that mission, we came back from that planet. I pretty much, that was like, I'm getting out of here. Got to go. So I had been, you know, given a 45, like a 1911, 45, I was the only one out of the eight. I was also the only one that actually did missions. They hadn't done anything yet. So they didn't even know what we were doing. So I went back after that and I told them, you know, I want to be part of this shit. And we're doing stuff. You're not going to be one. You're not going to be part of this stuff. You know, sorry, I talked them into leaving. The next day, I thought Bill was going to be out. He was supposed to be somewhere and wasn't going to be around the base. Wait, you took really quick. You talked who and to leave and you're
a great God to send guys. You talked all those guys into leaving. Yeah. Okay. And this is after you got back from wherever planet you don't even undisclosed. Yeah. Right. So you, yeah. Okay, you got everything. So you just were trying to get all of them to come with you. Like, no, we shouldn't be doing this. I talked them in those gaping with me. We came out and just like, you know, two story of metal steps coming out from where we stayed straight down. And, you know, so when I came out, I was really lined up like we normally would be one through eight. And I had my 45. I got down to about, there was about six steps left. And then about five, where I jumped out before I was. So I turned out number seven. I had turned me in. He told him what I was going to do. Really? Yeah. So the escape failed. And more happened. And then at that
point, then I get Bill, Bill came over. He was there actually. And he was just enraged that I think that I had more pull over this guys than he did. That I talked them into going. That's weird. He was just so pissed that he was also so pissed that he should have faded his and towards me. And he finally realized I was lying to him all the time. So what do you expect? Maybe truthful. You adopted me. Yeah. Yeah. I don't have to be truthful to you. So he just got enraged. And he was an askedee guy. He flipped. He just went off and beat me. So I was unconscious. When I woke up, I was in the chair. And they questioned me again. Who the hell? Who are you? All that crap? You know, a couple days in there. And then he took me out and I begged him not to
let me back up. The whole time right there, there was one thing he did. There's like, you can take orders. You can go to your time in the prison. So we're always threatened with this prison. He then beaten me a little bit more, brought me down to the prison. So it's actually just downstairs, way down. But he took me down there. Him and I were there as guys, which is this German guide that was in charge of that prison. Gruber. Him and not. What was his name? Gruber. I thought he said Kruger. I was like, oh, that's good. Now, and he, um, him and only two guys said that point. I got beat again, stripped, raped. He urinated on me and they stuck me in solitary. It was, it was like about five feet high.
So I'm six, two. So I can never stand up in it. It was, you know, maybe eight feet, six feet square box with a hole in it for, you know, for the toilet or whatever, no bed. So, yeah, they, they just had me in there like an animal stripped for a year, no clothes. If I need dog food, and dog bowls made me a bag for my dog to, yeah, that guys really got off on it. I was pretty much it, you know, once a month, they take me out. It was pitch black, no way at all. So, when they took me out, I could see, you know, they just take me to the showers. I can never really see what was going on, you know, I get squirted down or whatever, and then
they push me back and push, you know, they must have had some type of night vision or something, if it was that. Now, my little whole, my little thing, when they opened up the door, they had light out there. Oh, okay. It was all lit with regular there. They were actually taking me to the regular showers, I guess, the prison showers. So, it was all lit up outside of my area. It seemed to be separate from the rest of the prison cells. It was in a different area. And that was it. No, nothing different. The only thing that happened, different out of that whole year was one point. I remember Gruber opening my door up and throwing a stake in and saying, very Christmas. Really? So, I just kind of got for a second, I remember who I was, you know.
Wow. Just from the beginning, giving you a stake. Just the Christmas kind of sent me back, you remember the fact that I'm in Christmas and stuff. But, so that was that year was nothing else happened with that. At some point, I guess my legs gave out. I couldn't walk part of the time I got out of there. So, the next one was an open cell. I was, I had clothes on. They weren't, they were giving me real food. So, they just transferred you to a different cell? Yeah, I don't really remember it because I mean, it was totally crazy at this point, you know. I hear like that. I was crazy. You're talking to yourself probably within a week. Really? In those places, yeah. It doesn't take long to go crazy. Well, that's that's also a testament. I mean, that shows you how much we need each other
because the worst thing you can do to somebody is put them in solitary confinement. It's one of the oldest tortures man has. Yeah. That's that's what it is. It's torture. You look crazy real quick. But when I got out of there, I couldn't walk. I just remember my legs. You know, they were probably at your feet for never being able to walk because I couldn't stand up. And plus the dog food, you know, probably wasn't, wasn't cutting it. So, I was in that cell for this other cell for just a little bit, you know, seem like maybe a couple weeks. And then I got dropped off at prison and I was somewhere else. I could run like maybe five feet, walk five feet, you know, steps and then fall down. You know, so I was having a hard time in this one prison. It was wide open. It was, it was really different. It were open cells and big courtyard and
seemed like it was outside. I got beat as soon as I got there. You know, I was getting kicked and stuff. I just remember that. And what's the, I'm going to stop you just for a second. Like there was a point of even recruiting somebody into one of these programs. If that's all you're going to do to them. I understand. Yeah. It turned out, you know, this was his first program. That's what I call it. It's his first project. Bills. Yeah. They made it the common done and him made an example out of me because I was first person to try to escape from Diego. In one second, you're enjoying your first day off in forever. Then mid lunch, your phone buzzes. A window's been broken at home and your miles away. In one second, everything can change. That's why ADT offers security systems with 24-7 monitoring,
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going to happen to you. So, after that, they didn't care. He was just so enraged that I did that to him. I mean, what he told him was that it's on that session, as he told them to, when he dropped me off, he said, don't kill him. Don't let him talk to anybody. He'll poison them out. He'll poison them out. And with his mouth, he was so pissed that I talked the other seven guys and he got him. He just couldn't get over that. Well, it sounded like he, like, well, I mean, you said you felt this dark energy from the get-go anyway. Yeah, he's a psychopath. So, now you know, I was just going to ask another question really quick. At this point, you don't know where you are as far as the aggressive still are. No, it's not Diego. I'm not for sure because
after I get kicked, I mean, as soon as I remember being dropped off there, I got kicked around, land on the ground, and I looked over and I saw, you know, it was different being. He was human, but he was obviously not, not earth human. He was about seven feet bald head. His earlobes came down real far and his nose was, was different. He came over and picked me up, like a little ball, and carried me over to area. He was standing and he got me feeding water until I take care of myself and he would let angry else touch me. Interesting. The nicest person I met there was, wasn't human, you know, interesting. Yeah, that would only last, unfortunately, probably for about three or four weeks. And then,
I was in the last prison, which seems to be back to the, it was Diego again. And this is the last prison I'm in, so I got, at this point, my hair is cut again, because a lot of that time, they never cut my hair bigger or anything. They left me like an animal. My hair was cut and I was in a gradient form and I was, remember sitting against the wall, and two guys came up, there was actually about ten people, but two guys came up, the one I recognized is number two, my training partner. And this other guy, who just looked at my face, I think my face was all messed up or stuff, you know, because everybody looked at my face, where I would say, you know, what did they do to you? And anyway, he, I wound up being a cell mate with number two. And that guy, that guy who was with him, was in charge of the kitchen.
And he got, I got a time in the kitchen, it was just like 10 days, maybe a week. And I don't know what the, what was up with that guy, but that guy who was in charge of the kitchen, he touched me or something, you know, I was crazy. So I just remember looking down and I had a knife in my hand, and I thought, he touched me again and he killed it. And he touched me again, so I sliced, I just started slicing them up. And number two, he jumped in, because so it wound up just to be like a total kitchen fight. And we didn't kill anybody, but, you know, they were all, they were all laying around. There were like four guys, four or five guys just were done. So we were the, I mean, we basically just killed the kitchen, you know, wiped out the kitchen. So we got
put back to our cell. We're not having more out of the cell. And Groover, that guy I told you about, was really pissed. So this is when the worst shit starts happening. He starts taking us out one at a time. So you, like, I would go one day and it would take you and lay you on a table and give you a shot and a neck. That would show up a bit. You were conscious, but you couldn't, you could feel everything. You could hear, you could move by. And he would torture you. He lays instruments out in front of your face, just to see the tear in your face, torture you, maybe rape you and then drop you off. And the cell. And so when you was laid there for hours, not being able to move. And then the next morning, they'd take the other guy.
So it got to the point where we weren't able to talk to one another. You know, we didn't know what was going on. There was a couple of skit days there where they didn't take us. And at that point, we decided to kill ourselves. You know, there was a way out of there. So next day, that was my turn. I went, I come back. I get dropped on the floor of the cell. You know, it's a skinny little cell. There are two books over here. I'm laying here. And number two, standing there and he said, and he said, you gotta get out of here to tell me his name is Joe. Told me some other information down and said, you gotta get out of here and tell our families what they did to us. And I fell asleep and when I woke up the next morning, he was dead. He hung himself with our socks off the side of the ball. So at that point, I just totally flipped out.
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and I looked up and I saw a face of a gray. And that was it? Face of a gray? Like a gray EP? Yeah. And then it was like somewhere through a switch. Boom. And I was in a body and it was shaving the left side of my head. Just what the hell is going on? Man. So I mean, obviously that started screaming. And then that's why I got my first electric shock. She's, so let me slow you down a little bit. This is, you know, this is this is some heavy information. And you've been living with these memories. No wonder why you got to get it out. I mean, this is part of a healing process. So how has this been as far? I know you've been working with James Peter Slattery or Becker Rose as far as, you know, recovering from this and dealing
with these memories. I want people know that, you know, there is a light at the end of the tunnel here. Yeah. You know, definitely. You know, and then also like I told you in the beginning, you know, we sign up for this stuff. So you have to figure out why would you sign up for a degree? Why did I do this? Exactly. Why would you do this? And then when I started thinking about it, I was like also like, why would Joe, why would he incarnate come in and hang himself with our socks? You know, it's some pretty sad stuff. But I found out later that, you know, there was agreements. It's agreements we have. And, you know, somebody wrote in the comments on Suzanne's thing, it was perfect. They said, we were all a mark and a bill at one point, like incarnating. And, you know,
the reason that happened to me is, is I was that person. You know, I have the memories of Orion Wars. And I was, I was that guy. I, I, I lost my family and I killed everybody. Anybody I came in contact with that knew, hang about a gray or a tillion, I killed them, I tortured them to find out information. Whatever it took. They're in the, you're talking about memories from the Orion Wars. Yes, that's interesting. We are basically pay back, you know, I got to experience where it was like to be on the other end. Okay, so it's a karmic thing. It's a karmic thing. So is there any karmic responsibility like for a clone? Like, so the stuff that happened to you in the program are the clone like the you mark have to, I mean, obviously you have the memories, but is there any karma from all that stuff for you? There's karma from, I mean, I was forced
in abducting people. I was lucky I got out without killing anybody. But if I had to kill somebody yet, we'd been karmically locked me up until the point where my soul was pushed out. Hans was created. I'm currently responsible for it. So at what point did you most fast forward? I know that Hans, eventually, you said you killed yourself or Hans killed himself. And then at that point is when the memories started coming back for you? Well, I had, I had key memories probably when they happened. It's weird like the hostage thing, if you read, if you checked out that session, that hostage thing, I've had that memory for years. Really? Yeah. So that was worth your already? Yeah. I almost got that memory probably when it happened. It was weird. So some memories you get from them. It's just, I would say, all the filling,
you know what I mean? It's like, you're going to get the real, the big things when they happened. But all the little crap came in when he died. Like, I remember where he lived walking around the tunnels, walking around streets, walking around the tunnel people and all those memories. Can you explain as far as like Diego Garcia, like what it looks like if coming from the surface on down, like what's what you said, something about a city, and then there's tunnel below that. Yeah, there's on the top, on the top side base, there's freight elevators. And you can take huge vehicles down and some of this freight elevators. They go down to the next level, which is the dumb. Okay, from that base, and that spreads out all over. Underneath that is just tunnels just like like New York City or any other city where they have all the pseudo tunnels
underneath it. There's just the same thing there. They're right below that. Then there's a couple levels below. There's experimentation labs and there's prison. And I think there was a reptilian city or something down in there. I'm sure. Yeah, I'm almost certain. That's kind of what I've heard from. I've gotten some verification on some of this stuff from Elena Denon. It was taken over the way that's rated Diego. Oh, really? Yeah, from the, here's what I got. From the dumb down, they've taken. But the top base is still cabal. Really? But probably the important stuff has been wiped out, though.
Yeah, from what I understand, everything's gone. The tunnels are gone. They call it people out. The experimentation labs, the prison, the dumb. Hopefully they flooded that. They got everybody out flooded. And we have, you know, there's accounts of these explosions or earthquakes, you know, all over the place. And we've heard stories about these types of things happening, but there's no way to verify it. There's, yeah, there's earthquakes happening all over the planet. They're really weird because so many of them are all not like you can look at the data and it's not like a natural earthquake, right? And they're all, they all are at the same exact, yep. Like it's all these bases. Exactly. They're being taken out. I saw a diagram Michael J. co-head up on one of his shows and that was showing exactly what you're talking about there. Oh, yeah. And I actually saw a group of them around Diego.
Really? Really? Sorry. The date, the date when it was, Elena told me it was April 19th. Oh, this year? Yes. Oh, wow. I know our friend, our friend, Jermaine, he's, he's actually done some of his own research and he looks at the seismic data. And yeah, there's a, there's a distinct difference between an explosion and an earthquake, like he said. There is. But there's so many people out here and out of like, oh, that's all bogus. That's not happening. There's just earthquakes. How can you prove it? Well, we don't, we can't prove that what is actually happening, whether children are being rescued, these bases are being cleared out. We don't know. But we can prove that there are explosions and they're not earthquakes. And sometimes they are earthquakes. It just depends on the data. They're all the same size. It's weird. You know, you can see it. It's an, I forget what he said, but it's a specific explosion device and it takes up a certain error. And he was looking through
him to say, oh, yeah, there's one. There's one. They could see him by the color on the chart. Yeah. Yeah. So I just want to clarify that because I know there's a lot of people that have an issue with people claiming that these things are happening, but there's no way to prove it. Well, that's a massive, that's massive evidence to me that something, yeah, what else have they blown up? What else could it be? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. With what else we know, you know, that's like connect the dots, man. For Fourth of July, that's all the supply. Yeah. Yeah. They just decided. Yeah. Exploded places for no reason. Yeah. So without, I mean, you can keep going into details as far as what happened to you, but you eventually, um, that was at that point, you know, it's, it's, um, I'm on Mars and I did that, um, collective shock until, uh, each time I got it, it seemed like my,
I don't know if you're sold your body, it would just slowly come back down. You know, when I get shot, you'd come out of my body and come down and just one time and just kept going. Yeah. And that was it. This is like, yeah, they kept going. And I guess that was, that was when they finally got hands. In one second, you're enjoying your first day off in forever. Then mid lunch, your phone buzzes, a window's been broken at home and your miles away. In one second, everything can change. That's why ADT offers security systems with 24-7 monitoring, with tech that helps first responders prioritize your emergency. And with the ADT Plus app, you can stay informed and in control of your home from virtually wherever you are. When every second counts count on ADT, visit ADT.com to learn more. Tyler Reddick here from 2311 Racing, another checkered flag for the books. Time to celebrate with
Chamba. Chamba at chambacasino.com. Let's Chamba. No purchase necessary, BGW Group, Boyd, we're prohibited by law, CCNC, 21 plus sponsored by Chamba Casino. Man, I remember it's a him being trained. So he was all retrained physically and with weapons and everything. No, since you've been back, have you tried to, I mean, I know you did say you tried to find every career and all that stuff. I have you, have you since tried to like locate or verify any of these people that were involved in the first place? No. Or the next thing moving or anything like that. No, I've looked, you know, I'm Google Earth. I checked that out. This is 1981. Everything's gone. There's people probably all gone. But you know, the guy, the guy was in my personal life too. So that's the other thing. You know, he not only adopted me in 2017, but before that, you know, as a musician, he showed up on my shows. Once we remembered him,
I remembered him, then I remembered him in my life. I remember him coming on my shows, buying drinks, sitting down at the table. The waitress is being weirded out by his energy, saying the sketch really strange stuff. He actually went up to my wife one time at my shows and talked to her and said, are you with somebody in the band? So, you know, he kept an eye on me from 1981 to 2017 when he was a, he had ducked me in 2017. Not long after that, he was caught. Wow. So this, this was the guy who recruited you. This is not the recruiter. This is the Navy seal bill bill, but he, okay, not the recruiter, but the guy that took in a van. Yeah, the Navy seals the guy who's, he's with me through the whole thing. Bill is the guy. It's his group of eight. He's one called shots. Wow. Wow. So you actually didn't even finish your tour.
We usually we hear about these guys who finished the tour and they kind of remember going back and having the age regression and all that stuff's done. In your case, it was different. You just, yeah. Okay. Yeah. It seemed like, I guess, because they pushed the sole out of that clone or something, it's changed everything. Now, what have you learned about clones? I mean, as far as, I know you were, some of your session got into some of the stuff about clones, uh, among us now, like, um, and politics and all this stuff. Like I, I, this is a real thing that I, we talk about that a lot. Yeah. Yeah. I want to keep bringing it up because I don't, I don't care who you are. Some of these people, uh, these politicians are clones and celebrities, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, and something else I think I, I've learned too is there's a difference between a clone. You can tell the difference between a clone, they're, when the clone is owning a lot
and the person's dead, that clone is not going to act. Right. It's a different thing. It's just, like, the person, they're just not going to be able to assimilate into life like everybody else. He's just, they're going to seem kind of like robotic. Like Joe Biden. Yeah. Like Joe Biden. Yeah. Like Joe Biden. Exactly. That's why I say that because you can see like some of them, um, there's a difference between a, you know, when the clone, when the person's alive, and the clones alive, or the clones just alive, and the person's dead. Well, that's, it's, it's the interesting thing about Biden is that there's actually been like mediums and stuff who claim that he's came to them. Like, and, and they claim that he's dead. So if he really is dead, you know, even guys, guys like I even tell her claim that he was cloned back in the 70s, the Dulce and Mexico. I mean, there's, there's information out there. We don't
know. We don't know, right? But by his actions and let's face it, I mean, the malfunctions, the drooping eyes of the weird, flabby skin on a neck. I mean, the, the, yeah, this is neurological problems. That's what I say that I believe that he's dead and that clones. That's probably several of them. Yeah. And then like Hillary Clinton, but you would have her like malfunctioning stuff. Yeah. We're saying that was the clone malfunctioning or yeah, kind of like degrading. Well, who wasn't you saying like some of these clones are like rapid aged because they need them. And a rapid age clone is more likely to fail or haven't have issues like that. So I don't know. I know I'm absolutely fascinated by the whole subject of the clone. So yeah, it's, it's, it's really, it's really not right. Is it? I mean, it's, it's not right. I have to
tell you one, one of the things that just bothers me the most is that I know that, that Hans wasn't me and I'm not currently responsible. But I remember those people begging for their lives, you know, making theater faces and hearing them. And it's the things that they looked at, you know, it was my eyes, you know. That's the last thing they saw. It might have been on clone or whatever, but still, it's not right to do that to your soul, you know. So screwed up to do that. Well, I mean, we appreciate you coming forward and sharing this. I know it's not, it's not easy to live with all the stuff. Um, that's probably sounds crazy to some people, you know, these types of testimonies. But I mean, there's too much stuff that corroborates, too many people's stories are lining up. Everybody is validating each other or verifying certain things without even knowing it. You know, there's, there's, there's that's the connect here. And this is
becoming a reality. And more and more people, if you talk to guys like Tony Radrigs and these other guys, there, people are reaching out to them every day, claiming they have memories coming back. Right. Yeah. I have memories of stuff that I don't know. And I'm still trying to piece together. Yeah. And Tony, Tony's right. He was one of the first ones to come out. I mean, I can't imagine him coming out. I really was, you know, all the things he said, everybody telling me your crazy and stuff. So I don't think it's, it's, we're at the point really where it's crazy anymore. There's too many people. Yeah. Well, we, these, these testimonies seem to attract the trolls. Yeah. We have, we have, our last episode with Darrell, we got hit pretty hard with people just saying absolutely horrible things. I'm calling BS, you know, really? Yeah. Well, it's, we got a lot of good. We got a lot of good 95% good, but maybe that may be more than that. Yeah.
Yeah. This kind of stuff always attracts the trolls for some reason in our experience. People get triggered because it sounds so fantastical. And so like, to them is just like ridiculous, I guess. And it's like the people that are locked into their programming of what's real, you know, and like, yeah, yeah, there's stuck on that. I think there's going to be a lot of people coming out from Diego Garcia. I've already been contacted by one person. So a person that, um, sold them, um, construction equipment and the A's. You know, I mean, there's a lot of people that will come out. People, there's thousands of people there in the, in the dumb, they work there. So there's got to be people coming out some point. Oh, something I've never shared. Um, I wasn't really going to, but I might as well, you know, because I can't verify it. I don't know. But just kind of interesting is that I had my session with
Ivan. And he says, by the way, you've been to the Diego Garcia, but specifically the underground portion. And he said, you weren't stationary, but you were just visiting. And there's a lot more that came through that session. But, um, I just remember when we both first saw each other, there was this very, there's this familiar connection there. And it's been driving me crazy to be honest, you know, trying to figure out like, where, why do you, I know you or whatever this feeling is. So, I don't know. Maybe there's something there that I haven't recovered or maybe I'm crazy. And I, I know what you mean, I still keep getting that image I told you about when I think about it. Yeah. Something's there. Yeah. One of the other things I didn't say anything about, you know, so it really bothers me is there was human trafficking going on off that island through the Navy.
You know, one of the, two of the people, where I meet back up, I was starting to see all the faces of people, Hans Murr, right? And, uh, and so I just asked my, how I stopped to stop very contating one. Unless there's something there, I'm supposed to see, unless there's something important, I want to see more faces. At that point, I saw two more. I recognized one of them. The first one I recognized was number seven. The guy you turned me in in my group. He had a Navy shirt on at this point. He was older, he had put on some weight, you know, muscle, his face, you know, he had the box or face like we all did for BB. And Hans was on the beach with him, so it was top-sided night and he was begging for his life. And he was, he didn't know, you know, there wasn't any more.
So he was saying, you were right, you know, you were right about everything you said that we were going to do. And he said, my name's Tony, you know, I'm from New Jersey. And that was it. Behind Shado. The other face I saw was a Navy officer. So that Navy officer, number seven, were involved in human trafficking with Bill. And he was cleaning up everything. Really? And the time together, that's what we built it. Yeah. So he was just cleaning up loose ends and he had been both killed. So do you have any information on why you think you were kidnapped? Because it wasn't a recruitment. They like, well, you on some list, like, yeah, what happened? Why were they looking for you? I was profiled because I had no girlfriend, no job.
They, I had no, I need to find a girlfriend in the job ASAP. Yeah, you better. And I know, I know prison record, no arrest record. Basically, I could fall off, you know, I was going to go look at it. Little contact with my family. Look at that. Yeah, they were looking for that. And then he also checked in and saw that, you know, if I was pushed, I would, I could be by on. So that's what I was profiled in taking that. And I think what it was is when I told him I wanted to be maybe sealed and I backed down, then they put me on a list right up there. That's interesting. I had some experience with space force recruiter right after whenever that was announced. And it was fine because they kept emailing me and stuff and I eventually said, no, they never went anywhere. But I just, I guess that means you're on the list.
I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it means you're on the list and you know, means you want to start watching what's going on. Do you have any missing time? I do. Actually, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you got to pay attention to those kind of things because you're on the list that they're not going to let you go. They can take, yeah, as you say, what's going to stop them from just taking you there? Yeah. Yeah. I think you really have no control over it. I told you when I was adopted, I walked out of my house, my underwear, walked up to the corner and got in the vehicle. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. And you know, this stuff I'm not ready to talk about yet, but yeah. Yeah. But this is the thing you got to watch. It's amazing. You know, the morning after that abduction, I started to notice, I had a scab on my being on my hand, like somebody stuck in me. You've got to start looking, actually,
look through those kind of things. Yeah. Okay. So let's, I wanted to kind of shift gears just a little bit. And before we start, before we start wrapping us up as far as, let's try and end this on a positive note. And just like a future outlook, like what's going on right now? Like, you know, things are obviously being cleared up and cleaned up. And I know some information has come through your sessions as far as like what the future holds for for humanity. And I was wondering if you wanted to share some of that as far as like being frequency specific, you know, for this shift and all that stuff. In one second, you're enjoying your first day off in forever. Then mid-lunch, your phone buzzes. A window's been broken at home and your miles away. In one second, everything can change. That's why ADT offers security systems with 24-7 monitoring, with tech that helps first responders prioritize your emergency. And with the ADT Plus app, you can stay informed and in control of your home from virtually wherever you are. When every
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So as far as like shifting the 5D or moving on or ascending, you're basically, which we've actually discussed this before, it's almost like you're choosing, like, unfortunately, this whole vaccine thing, people are ignorant to it, but maybe this is how the split looks. So that's interesting. You're saying the vote was like, it's just where they're at. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Clearly, depending on who you voted for, it shows your level of awareness of what's actually the place. And then clearly, whether you sign up for the vaccine or not, shows the same. So then it's like a test, actually. It is. It's really just a test for your soul. Like, you know, don't just experience, go over here. Those that are, you can go onto the new earth, but what came out is you have to be frequency specific. If you don't raise your frequency, you're not going to be able to stay on earth. And those are our frequency specific whole. I have to go continue to 3D in another place, because it's not going to exist on earth.
So basically, earth is done with 3D. Yeah, we're getting out of it, right? So either raise your frequency and go with the frequency of the earth, or you go onto these other experiences, you'll can coordinate somewhere else. Well, that's, I mean, it kind of aligns with what I believe in and it's very sad in a way too, because a lot of people we know. And, you know, if this is real, if this is true, it's a hard pill to swallow for a lot of people, people won't accept it. And I wonder if like some people who are forced to get this vaccine against their will are for a job or for insurance companies, I know that's the thing. Is there a way to transmit it, a reverse it? I believe that's going to happen. I believe that's exactly what's going to happen, because it's really about your soul. And those people that were forced into it, I think they're going to want to, something's going to be available for them to reverse it. I think the ones that
the ones that are still going into it, they're not going to want to get anything to reverse it, they're going to be happy. So I do believe that's going to happen. I don't believe it's an end all. If you got the vaccine, you were forced into it. I don't believe that's going to happen. I do believe something's going to happen so you can get it reversed, even if there's nana dust removed. Yeah, would you say nana dust? Yeah, I mean, Michael Jack, I was talking about that feeling. Him and I saw him and chained to code. And they were talking about a way that you could actually get that out of your body. Well, I mean, I would think that there's a way. I mean, there's got to be, they probably already created it, a solution, a cure, a detox, whatever. It's probably available. And I think that people who are tapping in are going to figure out the way. Some people got placebo so don't forget that. Yeah, that's what you said. Yeah.
What I did learn from somebody else is they gave out placebo. So if you didn't get sick, you had no reaction to good chance you got a placebo, especially if they're asking you to come back for a booster shot. They didn't want everybody dropping at once because then everybody was stopped to get in the shots. It would cause a lot. Yeah. Right. They want to go in shifts. So they did that. And now they're going to now they're going to call you back for a booster shot and give you a real thing. So a lot of these like celebrities and politicians and past presidents and they're showing themselves getting a shot. Like some of it's placebo. Some of it you could tell there's not even a needle there. Well, there's really some of it. There was no needle and they were like pretending like they're getting in one video. There's no needles. Some video is somebody like getting the jab but they never even pushed to the syringe. Yeah, there's that. It's just ridiculous. I mean, it really is a clown show. Nothing nothing out there that we see is real, you know, especially what's going on with the
Capitol and the White House and all that stuff is we know this is a military operation at this point. Definitely. Yeah. I think it went good. Well, is there anything else you'd like to share and get out before we wrap this up? No, it's about it. Just if you are looking for help, just ways that I found out was going to change kill him for that trans person would release session. And I had several sessions with Peter where I met a lot of my other guides, you know, and then through QHHT, you can develop a relationship with your upper, your higher self. And then Rebecca Rose also, right? Yeah, Rebecca Rose actually was the breaking point of this whole thing. At February, I had assessment with Rebecca and that's where it came out that I was on Diego Garcia and that's where it came out that I was in March. So Rebecca's session was huge. Interesting. Yeah, yeah, she's
awesome. We've had her on the show, obviously. Yeah, she's awesome. She's very special. I suggest if you see her, she's she wanted to take a case of records and my wife had a session with her too. So she's nice. Yeah. Guys, go check out the episode with Rebecca Rose. If you haven't seen it yet, it was a two-parter. It was really good. That was during our, we did a whole secret space program month and we did nothing but attack this subject, you know, and and it was really fun. It was really interesting. A lot of great information came through. We're basically on secret space program part two months. Yeah, basically. Yeah, sad. Yeah. Well, thank you so much. I thank you for choosing us to come forward. Thank you so much, man. I'm not sure how that all aligned, but we appreciate you reaching out and we're glad to give you an opportunity to tell your story. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot for the chance to do it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Guys, go ahead. I'm going to put your email in the comments
and if you're going through something and you're looking for help, make sure to reach out to him because, you know, that's where this journey has led you and all of us right now. We're here to help each other, you know, heal through these times because we're not really going to go anywhere on healed either. So we have to heal and we have to get through this. So, yeah, it's time to heal and time to forgive. Forgive yourself, too. A lot of people, that's the hardest thing. We beat ourselves up about so much. Yes. Just forgive yourself. It's easier than you think. It's easier than you think, you know, it's all mental, you know, your mind can get in your way or it can stay out of your way. It's up to you. Okay. Well, thank you for coming on, man. This has been great. An incredible story. Incredible story. And I know there's probably a lot more to it that you didn't even get to, but some of that stuff's not easy to tell. I'm sure and it's not easy to relive those moments. So, I really appreciate all that. Thanks. All right, guys. Thank you for
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