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Join us for the Wednesday 3 Martini Lunch as we focus on a new poll showing too many Americans willing to sacrifice press freedom to have someone decide what's accurate, Illinois Democrats trying to put gunmakers on the hook for gun deaths and injuries, Republican Michele Tafoya keeping the Minnesota U.S. Senate race surprisingly close, and crime rates in Memphis plummeting after a year of federal help.

First, we react to a new Pew survey showing 73 percent of Americans highly value freedom of the press, but a majority of people say they're willing to sacrifice some of that freedom for accuracy. We all should want a complete, accurate story, but who decides what's accurate? Surely not the government.

Next, they fire back as Illinois Democrats try to put gunmakers on the hook for the costs related to murders and injuries connected with firearms. We'll explain what's really happening here and why the left's logic on this is badly flawed.

Then, they're pleasantly surprised to see Republican Michele Tafoya within the margin of error in several polls in the Minnesota U.S. Senate race against Lt. Gov. Peggy Flanagan. Minnesota is traditionally a Democratic state. Can Tafoya's strengths plus a scandal-plagued Walz-Flanagan administration actually produce a win there for the GOP?

Finally, they applaud the dramatic drop in violent in crime in Memphis after the Trump administration intervened, It turns out that cracking down on crime actually leads to less crime.

Hillsdale College Radio General Manager Scot Bertram is on for Jim today.

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If you like YouTube, you'll love YouTube Premium. Hi, I'm Sean Evans from Hot Ones and I want to tell you about YouTube Premium. It has offline downloads, so you can watch without Wi-Fi. Background play, so you can lock your phone and it still plays, baby. Oh, and it is completely ad-free. Yes, I said it ad-free. Try YouTube Premium for two months free at youtube.com slash premium. Hell eligibility varies, terms apply, cancel anytime. Welcome to the 3 Martini Lunch. Grab a stool next to Greg Korumbus of Radio America and Jim Garrity of National Review. 3 Martini's coming up. So glad to have you with us for the Wednesday edition of the 3 Martini Lunch. Jim Garrity is away here in his place. Scott Bertram, who is the General Manager of WRFH Radio Free Healstale on the campus of Hillsdale College 101.7 on the dial. If you're near there, he also lectures in journalism at Hillsdale, directs the Hillsdale College

podcast network and hosts many of them of the podcast on that network, including the Radio Free Healstale hour. Scott, great to have you back. Greg, good to be here. Now, just like Jim wanted to talk jets on Monday, Scott would love to be talking about the white socks hanging on by their fingernails to first place in the American League Central or the Bears Racken up 59 points on Sunday, which I would also love to talk about as well. But we do have intervening business, and let's start with whether Americans are valuing the First Amendment or not. The Pew Research Center, through the Pew Night Initiative, finds that Americans broadly value press freedom, but many are open to certain limits on it. This is most Americans, meaning 73%, say, press freedom is extremely or very important to the well-being of society. However, when asked to prioritize press freedom or accuracy, 53% say preventing inaccurate reporting is more important, even if it limits press freedom.

So the actual numbers is press freedom highly important to society. 73% say extremely or very 18% say somewhat. You got to love to talk to those people. And 8% say, no, no, not at all. And then whether they support limits to press freedom in some cases, 45% say for the press to be free to report news, even if it's some reporting as inaccurate, and then 53% to prevent inaccurate reporting, even if it limits press freedom. And Scott, this is a huge debate going on over in Europe right now, just at the EU, the Chancellor of Germany, whose name is Friedrich Merz, but I just call them Fred Merz, because you know, from I Love Lucy. But he's far less smart than the guy from I Love Lucy. But I mean, he's basically out there saying, I don't know, no, no, we love press freedom. We love freedom of speech. But you know, it's more important that people don't get inaccurate speech or inaccurate information. And so it's really important. In fact, that's even more important.

He says we must protect citizens from false information, from personal put downs even, and from discrimination. So you can see how some, especially on the left, are trying to water this down between the absolute freedom in the First Amendment and what they want to see in the press, I think. It's a bit of a mess, Greg, because people from both sides, both perspectives, have different reasons to sort of answer in the affirmative for restrictions. On the left, people see social media and people see inaccurate information and misinformation and say, well, we got to clamp down. We got to restrict who can tell American citizens what's going on. And then the right, people see mainstream media outlets and an institutional bias and say, well, it'd be good if we could stop them from being so biased and have other things maybe spring up. And so it's an odd question to ask because people from both sides have different reasons for their particular answers. I thought inside, it's concerned about 44% of Americans think the press has become less

free during the Second Trump administration. It's free after an Obama administration that did more than almost any other administration to clamp down on the press between prosecuting Stephen Kim, between ceasing phone records for the Associated Press, going after both James Risen and James Rosen, if you're James out there, be very careful in the Obama years. And what we've seen mostly under Trump is just a lot of noise and back and forth in yelling in Trump saying he doesn't like certain people. That's not necessarily the press becoming less free. What we've seen is more people reporting more news. We've seen the White House press briefing room being opened up to new and different voices. So I think we've seen a lot of the opposite of that. I think we've seen a lot more press get involved. But again, that's where the left isn't happy. The left would say, well, that's too many people, too many voices, are they trained journalists? Are they really journalists? The Democratic Durban, Senator from Illinois, hasn't been talked about recently.

But for many years, he pushed this idea that journalists needed to be licensed. You had to have a license to be a journalist under this plan that Dick Durban had brought up. Then there was some support for it out there. Again, I haven't heard about it for a number of years at this point. So the left a lot of times want to restrict only professional, only the people we trust will tell our side of the story, essentially get these licenses to be journalists. And I also thought interesting in here was a number who say that news organizations are influenced a great deal by government and political interests. That was 49%. California, I believe, is about to start, if I recall the story correctly. And Illinois already is doing this, which is literally subsidizing journalists in the state through tax incentives for local news organizations to either hire or retain journalists in what they call news deserts. Now, food deserts. That was big for a time. And now even the New Yorker says there's no such thing as food deserts. It's a myth. But now we have news deserts where there's apparently no one reporting on anything.

Even though as we talked about, there are more people reporting on more stuff than probably ever in the history of mankind. It's out there. It's everywhere. It's on YouTube. It's on TikTok, unfortunately, too. But when California and Illinois now are literally sending state taxpayer money to news organizations, well, yeah. Then you might say, well, will they continue to cover the government fairly? They're getting money from the government to report. Do they want that money to stop in some way, shape, or form? So that's only injecting the further possibility of more government interference in the way news is covered in at least those two states. Yeah. I mean, who says there is an objective to begin with? But that's where this runs into a huge problem. We saw this during the Biden administration with the temporary, yeah, it wasn't designed to be temporary, but the disinformation governance board. That they had going on there briefly until so much pressure came on. They shut it down. Where basically they were going to decide what was true and what was false. So who gets to decide what's false? Who gets to decide what's inaccurate or what's discriminatory or that sort of thing?

It's always going to be the government gatekeepers and more often than not, it's going to be people in various agencies, whether it's a Republican or a Democrat in charge. You got these lifelong bureaucrats. The Democrats are going to clamp down probably more than Republicans. And if we didn't have this broad diversity of journalism right now, just think of the stories that wouldn't be discussed at all, much less discussed in a way that leaves it up to the viewer or the reader to decide what's true and what's false looking at the evidence provided by the different ways of story is covered. Now, I wish people were more objective and they were looking for ways to make sure that all the information got out there on both sides of an issue, but we don't have a lot of that anymore. So that means we have to be more discerning, but the answer is always more, not less. And as Jim, I'm sure, is well aware of the stories that are inaccurate today can all of the sudden be accurate tomorrow, thinking about COVID-covered from some years ago, and particularly the things that Jim had written about. But now we know we're completely accurate. And so, yes, who says it's inaccurate and what are the parameters used to determine

the inaccuracy? You're never going to have a great answer for those two questions. Now, Chancellor Martziar says, we need to protect citizens from personal put downs. I personally take that as an assault directly on Gen X. I mean, if we didn't have personal put downs, I mean, half of our discussions each do it, but that would go away. That's very sad. You know, that's actually a lot of talk about equal time these days. And well before this discussion about equal time, enter the picture, my favorite day of the year in my classes was teaching about the fairness doctrine, which is no longer an effect, an equal time, which is still an effect. And now it's all sorts of real world examples, so it's fantastic. You will hear people saying, we got to bring back the fairness doctrine too, which is different from equal time, different discussion, different day. But one of the provisions inside the fairness doctrine originally was if there were, you were a news organization, you were not a news organization, you were, you know, a licensed radio station or a TV station, and someone on your station said something bad was critical

of a public figure, a politician, you had to go to that public figure and tell them we need to give you a chance to respond to this thing that someone said on our airwaves. So again, it's another reason why bringing back the fairness doctrine to nonstarter and also why it was such, there was such a posity of political ideas, coverage, things being discussed in real ways when it was an effect. And props to President Reagan for scrapping the fairness doctrine, which opened the gates to Rush Limbaugh in the air of talk radio and so many other things. The left, of course, hates that, which is why people like Dennis Kusinich were constantly trying to bring the fairness doctrine back. But what it really brought was diversity of opinion and not just being spoon fed or force fed, what the New York Times, Washington Post and the major TV networks wanted you to know about. So the diversity of stories, the diversity of opinions, it's all for the good. Now there's a lot of poor journalism out there, but it's again up to us to separate fact from fiction. All right, let's talk about your home and you know, you've got folks just like we talked

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data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. That figure includes direct costs like emergency services, medical care, law enforcement resources and funeral expenses. It also includes indirect costs like mental health treatment, loss of income and childcare. This bill is the rifle act, the responsibility in firearms legislation. They couldn't come up with an E word. So rifle is misspelled in this acronym. Everybody's got to have an acronym now plus legislation and act on the same thing. But anyway, the argument here is that from the sponsor is well, when cars are defective and they lead to accidents, they can get sued. When pharmaceutical companies have a bad product and people die, they can get sued. Same thing should go for guns. And Scott, I'm listening to this and I'm like, well, the guns aren't malfunctioning. They're just in the hands of evil people. So I'm not sure the logic coming here. But of course, it's much easier to sue gun companies than it is to crack down on crime and Chicago and elsewhere in the state. Sure.

In look, Illinois is broke. Illinois has no money. Illinois wants to have money to spend on these far left daydreams of both Governor J.B. Pritzger and the legislators in Springfield. So just take this as the equivalent of that guy in the corner with the pencil and the cup, trying to find some money from some sucker somewhere who's going to help him out or a nice slip and fall lawsuit. Oh, goodness, it was icy and it's your fault and you've got to pay me because I need money. This is what Illinois is doing with ideas like this. Rightly point out what a car is defective, the automaker pays, sure, but that's not the comparison to make here because the gun is not defective. The person using the gun is defective in these situations. And so this, we don't ask automakers to pay when cars are used in terror attacks like in Michigan where I live now. We had the attack on Jewish school children where the guy took his car and rammed it into

the building back in March. This has been a connected terror attack. No one saying, well, the car manufacturer should pay was used. No, because the guy was defective. The terrorists decided to use the product in a way that was not designed to be used. You don't design a car just so it can be ran into a building to try to kill Jewish children. Later in this story, Greg, this is my favorite part. And sometimes, of course, Barry said, way at the end. The law would require the state's law enforcement agencies to provide the Illinois State Police with the name and manufacturer of firearms recovered from shootings, which would include homicides, suicides, non-fatal injuries, and unintentional shootings. So we're not talking about only murders. We're not talking about only suicides. Any shooting or a gun is recovered would be added to the list. And the gunmaker would make an annual payment of the state treasury fund to support victims

and violence prevention efforts. The amount of manufacturer pays is proportionate to how many of its guns are tied to shootings in the state. So again, it's not just about murders, it's not just about anything like that. It's any shooting anywhere in any category that puts you at a list and then send you a bill later on to the Illinois Treasury Department. Yeah. The ultimate goal here, of course, is to put gunmakers out of business. It's not some sort of, you know, deep responsibility situation here. They want to put gunmakers out of business because they hate the second amendment. And if they can't put them out of business, they're going to sue them for so much that the prices of guns are going to be out of reach for many people who would otherwise have firearms for self-defense. So that's their ultimate goal here, cloaked in the very thin veneer of responsibility for all these homicides, suicides, and whatever. And again, not going toward or not going after the source of the violence, meaning not cracking down on crime, not trying to find the shooters, but after the fact assigning

blame to the manufacturer of a gun, perhaps used in a shooting, to backwards way of trying to address the problem that Illinois faces in some of its larger cities. And we're going to talk about how cracking down on crime actually works a little bit later in the podcast. So stay tuned for that. I'm sure that'll shock you that getting tough on crime actually works. But in the meantime, we have talked about fast growing trees before on 3 Martini lunch, but now they've got a new name, just trees.com. It's basically your local nursery, but online with more than 1600 varieties of trees and plants delivered right to your door. And so the Columbus family, we've had plants and bushes and other things from fast growing trees for many years. Absolutely love our snake plant, which is thriving right now. We also have lavender plant that's currently out on the deck smells great and is good at keeping the bugs away. And so that's really important during the summertime. But we've also had the monstera plant. We've had a ficus tree and they almost always end up in very good shape. And if they don't, they've got their alive and thrive guarantee.

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is a deep blue state is that race right now where Tina Smith is retiring. And the Democratic nominee is Peggy Flanagan, who as Jim would say is Kuku for Coco Puffs. She is a radical on a number of issues. She's the one who was sport and a t-shirt a little while back that said protect trans kids with a knife on it. So I'm not sure whether she's doing the surgeries or whether she's killing people who don't want to, don't want to see kids get trans surgeries. But she is running against Michelle Tafoya, who many people know from prowling the sidelines for ESPN and NBC and CBS for a while. Sidelined reporter for many, many years for the NFL and other sports. And now it looks like this is actually a very tight race. The latest co-efficient poll, which I think leans right. But still Peggy Flanagan leads to FOIA 43-42 with others at 4%. Flanagan's favorability minus nine to FOIA plus four. And some people are saying while the samples are a little skewed there, I don't know if that's

the case. But even if they are, there's other polls. Quantus insights from September 11th has it at a four point lead for Flanagan again under 50% 48-44. And then another one taken just after the primary last month. This was on August 18th from SurveyUSA 46-41 Flanagan. So the bad news is that Michelle Tafoya is losing in all these polls. The good news is she's closer than a lot of people expected. And given where democratic resources are probably going right now, Michelle Tafoya with kind of her bread and butter, let's not let boys play in girls' sports and just hammering, hammering, hammering Flanagan on the fraud issues. And she's Tim Walsh's lieutenant governor seems to be keeping this thing pretty close. Greg, I don't know what's going on here. I'm supposed to. I know this. I don't know what's going on here. This is three, four polls in a role that has this Minnesota Senate race very, very close within the margin of error in a lot of places. And it would seem to counter the narrative of Donald Trump being very underwater and polling

of gas prices, being a reflection of where people will be in November. Now, by us, it's for almost 450 a gallon at this point. Diesel's even higher. And just an overall sentiment that the middle part of a second term of a president, you're going to have a wipe out in favor of the opposing party. Given that environment, you wouldn't expect this race to be very close. And I had made a comment I was guest to kind of a different show. Not my favorite show to guest on this. I've never showed a guest on it. But I wasn't sure how deeply the fraud issue resonated with Minnesota voters. We paid attention to it. National attention, no doubt about it. Minnesota voters had put those people in office and kept putting those people in office. And though I was new to a lot of people on the national stage, I don't think a lot of this was a secret inside the state of Minnesota. At least, at least everyone had a good sort of feeling that this sort of fraud might be going on inside Minnesota.

So I wasn't sure how upset the elector would be even with those revelations. Is that what's driving these numbers? Possibly. We'll find out election day. You know, also inside this bull, Amy Klobuchar, only gets 47% of the vote. And Amy Klobuchar has been around in Minnesota for a long time. Her family's been in politics for a long time. And for her not to break 50% in what is, you know, kind of, I guess I'd call it a light blue state, not a deep blue state like, like Illinois, but a light blue state. That's surprising too. And we say all this in the context of saying polling stinks. You can't trust polling anymore. Who knows what's going to happen? Just go vote. That's still true, of course. Some states are easier to poll than others. Michigan's a very tough, tough state to poll. I don't know where I'm at. So to fill a falls on that list. But you know, we're still what, less than two months out from election day, though voting will start in some places at about three weeks or so early voting in the. Or Friday in Virginia.

Is it Friday in Virginia? Friday. Oh, good. Minnesota's pretty early too. They'll start sometime this month. Yeah. So I really don't know. Now, Michelle Tafoya is a good candidate to be making this case. She's had a lot of FaceTime on television. She's a, I want to say she's a moderate voice, but she comes across as a moderate voice. She's a reasonable person. She's been on network television for a long time. She's not someone entrenched inside of Minnesota politics or someone who people are tired of seeing on a ballot, which happens in some of these cases, fresh face at least when it comes to the political scene in Minnesota. So maybe she is the right person to try to win this race. We've had a history of tight elections in Minnesota, the Al Franken Senate race against Norm Coleman from some years ago where heck, found some votes in the trunk of cars and all of a sudden Al Franken's winning. So you might want to win not just by a half percent or 1 percent, but two or three percent. If it's not close, they can't cheat. That's the huge, huge book, I think. But man, I know I'm supposed to have a real hard sort of a, I don't know what to make

of this. National opinion polls, Trump approval would say this sort of thing isn't possible at this time in that kind of state. And yet now we see a few polls in a world that say, well, this is really tight. This is March of error. This is a race that Republicans might win. And depending what happens in Texas, say again, you might win in Minnesota, but you might lose in Texas. And yes, candidate quality matters. I understand that. But that would be, that would be pretty weird. That'd be pretty strange if that were to happen. So I'm not sure what state to put in polls these days. I'm not sure accurate polling can be in certain places, but it's nice to dream. It's nice to dream. In Minnesota is one of those states where Republicans always think they got a shot in the end. Let's take it away. I think the Oregon gubid tutorial race is one in the same matter. Oh, we got a shot. Nope. We're going to lose by six. And I just saw a poll today that said that race is like a three point race. Oh, we got a shot. Oh, we're going to lose by six. Uh, we'll see. Long way to go. Still a long way to go, even if early voting starts soon. Yeah, no doubt about it. But you're right that it's, you know, sometimes competitive, but it's been a long time since

Republicans have won major statewide races, Tim Polenti, uh, when the governor's race for reelection 2006, and that's the last time a Republican has won the governor's race. The last time Republican won the Senate race, the aforementioned norm Coleman, when he beat Walter Mondale in 2002 after the death of Paul Wellstone, giving Walter Mondale the dubious distinction of losing statewide in all 50 states. The only American to ever do that because he lost all 49 out of 50 to Reagan, except for Minnesota and then lost Minnesota to norm Coleman. So anyway, we will keep an eye on that one. That would be an amazing race for at least the Democrats have to spend a two point. There's a ton of money to keep and keep that money away from other races because Republicans, if they don't have anything else, they've got the money edge this year. And so that could be one place that the Democrats have to divert some resources to play defense. So anyway, we will see what happens. Well, one place you should not play defense is with your business. You want to go on offense to keep those existing customers happy and attract those new clients. And for that, you need a good business communication system.

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Furthermore, statistics show the operation has led to a 36% decrease in overall crime year over year. With motor vehicle thefts down 57%, robberies down 43%, aggravated assaults down 27%. Murder is down 44% in the first half of 2026 and overall is down 35% in the past year. In 2025, overall crime in Memphis was down 28% compared to 2024 after this program was instituted. And so Scott as other people have said certainly actually cracking down on crime, arresting people, charging people, actually prosecuting people makes a big difference because in the end the percentage of your population that's doing most of the crime is pretty small. So if you get them off the streets, things improve pretty quickly. Yeah, we see that too in a public transit numbers too. You start enforcing the law in public transit, make people pay. The number of people who are actually causing problems is very small. If you can eliminate them in some way, shape or form either by giving them off trains, putting them behind bars, then you're likely going to be safe, safer.

At least I was talking to Todd Starns who has a new book out in Todd's in Memphis guy, born there, he owns radio stations there, hosts his radio show there. And I think Todd takes a little credit for this if I'm not mistaken. He had a conversation with President Trump and said you've got to come to my town, you got to help us. We got to crime wave happening in Memphis and the results are clear. We look what's happened in Washington DC. We look what's happened in Memphis where there has been the surge of law enforcement to help against violent crime. The same question now occurs to me that occurred after the success that New York City had under Rudy Giuliani, which is why does in every city take this template and use it? Call it, call it Rudy. How'd you do it? Let's execute it. Now there'd be stop and first issues I understand. With this sort of thing, you did it in Washington DC. You did it in Memphis, slightly different tactics I think in both places. But what was the key? If the key is simply, we arrested a lot of people.

Okay, you can do that where you are too, depending on your prosecutor, Soros Bact or not. I guess it's one of the questions that pops up. But this sort of template that improves the lives of residents that makes it safer for people to be in your city, more welcoming to visitors, tourists. I mean, you can just go down the line of the benefits that come when you have this massive drop in violent crime. And again, it's not just murders, murders down, fantastic. But motor vehicle thefts, motor vehicle thefts going down means, theoretically, depending on state laws, you're going to have auto insurance rates fall as well because there are fewer vehicle thefts in that area. Robert is down 43%. Aggrived and assaults down. Every time you can bring those numbers down, there are ancillary tertiary benefits, not just for the people in that immediate area, but people around, people who are visiting, people who are driving through, people who are paying taxes, people who are paying insurance rates, all good things.

So what's the template? How can we take it and use it in our city and make things safer? Yeah, exactly. And I wish they would just do it. I don't necessarily want a big federal presence going on here. Maybe the feds are more coordinating here. But this is only happening outside of D.C. It's happening in Tennessee because it's a red state and the Republican government there is cooperating. The Memphis government is not Republican. But the blue, all blue areas would rather defy Trump and say that they defied Trump rather than actually address the problem. And that's why you're seeing good results in places like this, rather than following this template and seeing better results, which they claim to want. And I hope they actually do. But Scott, always great to have you with us. Thanks for your time today. Catch you down the road. Go Bears. Thanks, Greg. I got to catch this white socks guardian's game first place on the line today. It's going to be tough for Scott to concentrate. So good luck to the socks and you know, this is what it's like when you have baseball teams who are constantly close to making the posties. This is terrible. This is awful. Day to day living like this. Now for years, that doesn't matter.

White socks are never in contention. It does, you know, by May, they're out. But this is bad. This is bad in my stomach. This is, I got a bad angry last night after they blow a lead. And in the ninth inning, a walk off with the guardian saying, think about it all night. Think about it this morning. Man, good. Good gracious. Super tight in the division. Super tight in a wild card race, too. So a lot of drama in the American League. He's Scott Bertram, general manager, WRFH, Radio Free Hillsdale, 101.7 FM on the campus of Hillsdale College. He's also a lecturer in journalism, director of the Hillsdale College podcast network and host of many of those podcasts, including the Radio Free Hillsdale hour. Jim Garrett, he should be back tomorrow. I'm Greg Carumbus of Radio America. Thanks for being with us today. Please subscribe to the podcast if you don't already. Tell your friends about us as well. Thanks also for your five star ratings and your kind reviews. Please keep those coming. Get us on your home devices. All you have to say is play 3 Martini Lunch Podcast. Follow all of us on X. Scott is at Scott Bertram with 1T in Scott, Jim is at Jim Garrett. I'm at Greg Carumbus. Have a great Wednesday. Join us again Thursday for the next 3 Martini Lunch. Home owners, if you want to sell your house fast for all cash, stop what you are doing and

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