Col. Larry Wilkerson #1465

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1:01What's up everybody? Just want to let people know, provide a quick update that all of my conversations go on Substack, both video and audio, ad free early. So if you like what I'm doing, want to support my work, please consider becoming a paid subscriber, and you can listen early and ad free. Also, I've been getting some requests about, can you still listen on Apple, Spotify, and other platforms? Once you become a paid subscriber on Substack, it'll provide you an RSS feed. You can then take that feed, take that link, and then listen to it on all those platforms as well. Ad free. So I appreciate all your support, and you know, thank you very much on this episode of Coffee and a Mic. Retired Army Colonel Larry Wilkerson, held a position in government under Secretary of State Colin Powell's Chief of Staff. He comes on to discuss the attempt of the Trump administration and nationalized religion. We talk the Iran conflict. Russia Ukraine, Cuba, Greenland, and much more. Please subscribe, like, and share this podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, the mic is on.

2:02I welcome back, Larry Wilkerson. Colonel, good to see you again. I think next time we should just turn the recorder on, because the stuff we spent 10 minutes talking about death and mortality and getting older, I actually think people would have got to kick out of listening to you get your thoughts on that. So next time we won't even do any pre-chat. We'll just go. Thanks for doing this. Thanks for, you know, you always make yourself available for me. So I appreciate it. What's at the top of your mind right now? You started with Pete Hegseth, so I'll turn it over to you. This business of his nationalizing Christianity for the military is really getting, I think, dangerous. And the latest development is the Air Force, and I have to assume they started with the Air Force,

3:05because it's gentle cane, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, is an Air Force officer and must have approved it. They're going in the Air Force from something like 211 or so religious designations, and by that, if you want to guide the Arlington National Cemetery and thus the other National Military Cemetery, recognize 180 to 200 different religions as being official in terms of you can put them on your tombstone. And this covers such things as different sex of Catholicism. It covers such things as Wiccons or Jedi Knights, because there are cults, so to speak, that have this as a religion and listed on their dog tags and on their official military records. But there are also many, many evangelical groups, many, many, of course,

4:06mainline religious groups, Presbyterians, Catholics, so forth. And all of that adds up to somewhere between 180 and 211, I think, that are in some way approved for tombstones, and therefore can be in your official military records. Well, HECSET now says it can only be for the Air Force 30. So you want to know what are the 30 that it can be that you're reducing religious affiliation to. And oh, by the way, if you read the Constitution lately, which says quite clearly and explicitly, then no religious tests can be used for membership in a government organization or whatever. This is a religious test if you parse it closely. So what I want to know is what are the 30, 31 authorized designations in your military records? And I can tell you right now they're probably all Christian and maybe some of the more what I call Harsher Christians, the more HECSET, the like Christians. And it's an attempt to not only

5:12control the military within all the ranks, but it's also an attempt to nationalize Christianity to make it the nation's religion and thus the armed forces, the defender of that religion. So your oath in the armed forces would not be to the Constitution of the United States. That's secular, that's bad. Your oath would be to Jesus. Has this ever been attempted before? No, it's been bandied about in places where you know, people say insane asylum, more to go there. I mean, you know, during the periods of we've had what historians call great awakenings in this country. And it depends on the historian you're looking at. Religious historians tend to say there've been more than secular historians, but there've been at least three or four great awakenings. And that's where religion leaps out and begins to take a undue portion of responsibility and business within what is supposed to be a federal democratic republic. Each time this happens

6:20something bad comes out of it. The most obvious example is the third one in most historians view, which took place at the end of the 19th century in the beginning of the 20th century and produced prohibition, produced an amendment to the Constitution that actually outlawed alcoholic drinks. And arguably created organized crime without component, of course, and others liking being the first practitioners of organized crime. Just to show you how bad it was, it wasn't but a few years later that they passed another amendment to the Constitution, amending it to get rid of the 18th amendment, which was for prohibition. So it was a stupid thing to do, and it was basically brought about by this great awakening of religion in America where so many people decided you shouldn't drink alcohol. So it can be a very damaging thing and it's had deleterious effects throughout

7:22our history when it happens. We're having one right now. We're having one right now. If you look at the mainline religions, they're losing membership. If you look at the evangelical religions, they're gaining membership. And I'm not saying all evangelicals, fundamentalists, whatever, are not really my version of Jesus Christ. But many of them are, and I'd say it's somewhere in about 100 million Americans, a third of the country now identifies as evangelical. Many of them, I'd say somewhere close to 40 million are these types of evangelicals. That is to say they want Christianity to be the nation's religion. They don't like the separation of church and state. They don't like the Constitution when it comes to religion. So these are dangerous people in my mind. They're leading this fourth or fifth depending on your historian, great awakening in America. And Trump wrote in on partly wrote in on it because a lot of these people were magna. So this is the first I'm hearing of this story.

8:30If we can back up a second, so what Hegseth is attempting to do, the long term goal in your view is to nationalize religion. So how are they using the Air Force then to kind of segway to be the used that door of the Air Force to do this? Well, it's not just the Air Force. That's just the latest development. It's the entire military. And it started at Quantico. If you remember that bizarre meeting they had down there with all the flag officers and a lot of their senior and non-commissioned officers where everybody just sat silent in the theater basically and listened to Donald Trump, whom the secretary didn't even know was coming. He just showed up and then listened to the secretary. It started there and it's picked up now to where it's almost weekly, certainly formally, monthly in the Pentagon that some pastor is brought in or Hegseth himself creatures to an entire group of Pentagon personnel. Flag officers, generals, and abdel sitting

9:34the first two or three rows by compulsion. The rest of the Pentagon civilian or military sits in the back rows and they say they don't keep attendance and it's not mandatory but if you don't go to this dude, you are not going to get promoted, you're not going to be treated favorably and so forth. And Hegseth either preaches himself, preaches himself as Secretary of War, or he brings in gas pastors like his favorite pastor who by the way has said and I'm almost quoting directly, women should not be serving in the military they should be having babies. That's what women are for and women should be subservient to their husbands. The Bible tells you and oh by the way Franklin Graham came to the central court yard of the Pentagon and gave a talk and then that talk Franklin Graham addressed the people in the center courtyard of the Pentagon, military insivity and told them that God in the Bible is described as killing women and children

10:44and babies and dogs and cattle and pigs and so forth and that's what the Israelites did and sometimes you have to do that sort of thing don't feel bad about it when you get an order that you have to go out and kill women and children, babies, pigs, animals. This is a preacher, Franklin Graham in the center courtyard of the Pentagon delivering this message to the troops and to the civilians that support them in the Pentagon. This goes on every month in the Pentagon and increasingly Hegseth is identifying the people who are not only coming to those meetings but are cheering, praying with him, bending knee, all the rest and he's identifying those people because those people we're going to be people who are in the ranks when we have a coup d'état and he needs some state force to enforce the coup d'état. Is that what you see coming as a coup d'état in all this? I think we're looking at a 50-50 chance

11:46if the Republicans and Trump are in deep, deep trouble come election time and it's looking more and more like they might be particularly because of this war which most of the country at least 60% is opposed to even some Republican leaders right now are addressing the White House and calling Trump and going to visit him in the White House when he'll let them in and telling him you need stop this war, you need to stop this war because it is turning the American people away from the Republican Party as much as it is strong too and they feared losing both houses because they know payback is going to be a mother. Yeah I like to get your thoughts on this when the war happened and sorry people are listening because I said this a bunch of times but I didn't think it would I didn't think it would occur because of the midterms and now I'm under the conclusion that the Trump administration they just don't care. I don't see this stopping anytime soon this war

12:50do you? Well I think they do care and I think they care that this war is used as it might be possible to facilitate their, shall we say take over the government. I do think that there's a distinct possibility that they're going to use force. You know if you go back and look at January 6th and the first, at the end of the first term what happened there was not that the system held that's the way people like to look at it they like to think well the system held you know it didn't fall down it didn't collapse even though they invaded Congress even though they beat people they broke windows they you know I mean you go back and look at those videos and you wonder how anybody was ever released and yet Trump has released them all but that didn't fail because the system held it failed because they were incompetent and the most glaring aspect of their incompetence was Trump and his minions did not ensure it and this is history says this is

13:55absolutely essential that state force military you know paramilitary militia and national guards some form of state force has to be on your side if you are going to conduct a successful coup d'etat they didn't have that in fact general milley was awful in the sidelines the chairman of the joint chiefs essentially saying holding his arms out literally and saying you're not going anywhere military let this play out that's not going to happen this time they learn their lesson so hexeth has been very carefully cultivating people in all the dimensions of our military national guard militia ice at home and security department is in on it they're the Praitorian brown shirts if you will and some of the active duty forces it's it's so into your face now that you actually have states trying to get their guardsman out of

14:56the active environment because what they're doing is pulling these guys and gals into things like patrolling the streets of Chicago patrolling the streets of Washington DC our ex only for side effects of gldp one medications including boxed warning go to roe docko slash safety additional row members should be required the crispy chicken crunch wrap slider that you love is back at taco bell and it's back with attitude because now you can enjoy the all white meat chicken nuggets inside a slider size crunch wrap with hidden valley diablo ranch what do you love most the crispy chicken nuggets the crunch wrap slider or maybe the hidden valley diablo ranch

15:57but yes the answer is yes the crispy chicken crunch wrap slider a brand new classic is back only a taco bell and paying them an enormous amount of money much more than they would than they would make if they stayed back in their state and were just guardsman for the governor and that's inducing that's conducing that's bribing these people so that when they are called on later for help in a coup there will be enough of them that will help that's a part of the game in using the guards now the governor's have started there are 11 or 12 governors right now who started questioning this and while they don't want the other aspect of it is this federal money is very much a part of the militia now you you can't really exist for very long as the national guard in Tennessee and Arkansas wherever it might be unless you have federal money so they've

17:01gotten used to this federal money and they've gotten used to being deployed on federal missions at one point it was for the average guardsman or a reservist it was probably one year out of every four that you were going to be deployed on active duty and this was another way of generating this kind of force that's not active duty it's in the states but it's ready for you to use and that's what HECSET is doing right now with this group that he's paying extra money to go to the border to go to Washington to go to Chicago to go to Portland these people were being recruited for this sort of duty so it's very carefully being orchestrated and if you look at it it's scary frankly so what happens then if people don't buy into it say in the military they're not buying into what HECSET is you know buying into his messaging how will they be separated or weed it out then in your view the history of kudai ta in the sense says that if you're doing something like this then

18:09you know every every country is different throughout the last three thousand years but if you're doing something like this if you're king prince potentate president whatever you are and you want to do something like this all you have to do is nullify the others that is to say just ensure that they're not going to contest you the ones you want to help you to actually go to polling places for example and prevent people from voting they're the ones you got to work on to get the others will be very hootal like and just stand around and watch and I think that's true if you study kudai throughout the history of monarchy feudalism democracy such as it is short history there unless you want to go back to Athens and that's not true democracy really because Athens set on top of the helots all of whom are slaves so it was a democracy and a republic for Plato it wasn't democracy for those

19:13slaves that were down there underneath all the aristocrats so if you study the way it happened this is very smart and I don't think for a second that hegseth is the architect of it the architects are two the deputy chief of staff for policy in the white house Steven Miller who's far more powerful than Susie Wallace the chief of staff in fact I've had people tell me that when Miller speaks rubio listens hegseth listens everyone in the cabinet listens because Miller is speaking they think and probably true for Trump and the other one is Russ Fout at the office of management and budget who controls the purse strings and who is the project 25 architect from the heritage foundation these two people are the one ones who are telling hegseth what he has to do he's just implementing big question does Donald Trump know any of this is going on I think that is a huge question now

20:18when I ask it of people they usually look at me and say of course he does of course he does and I say I'm not so sure I'm not so sure that this president isn't so busy grifting so busy making four or five billion dollars for his own personal profit so busy lying so busy doing other things that these people are operating underneath him and doing what they want to do these are the dangerous people in the Trump administration and the billionaires who pack them they're the dangerous people not Donald Trump well Donald Trump is because he's a guy who's a top but these are the real people who will make things happen including a coup if they want to and there is a group and about leads this group at OMB there's a group that wants to replace our democracy and our constitution that structures that democracy with a cool protocracy this group has been around for a long time it arguably started at the end of the 19th century and it came to a very dangerous provision almost

21:25when they were courting Hitler and Mussolini in the thirties they were very much fans of Mussolini and ultimately fans of out of Hitler they even tried to get marine general smadley butler to be their military coup plotter and he he went to congress and told them and ruined his chances to be comment on the marine court because they went right after him and soon as he did that now he got exonerated ultimately one two medals of honor I mean super marine and he told them incidentally one of the people in that conspiracy was George A.X.W. Bush's father Prescott Bush you you you could talk to America all day long you wouldn't find two people who know that history I would have no idea so I'm always appreciative that you come on and speak with me about some about this stuff yeah we we were still dealing with Hitler in 1945 we were still dealing with it

22:32IG Farben and other companies had locked locked in with American companies in some respects we sold the gas for the chambers to the Nazis some of it is do they feel now is the time to do this or is it one of those things I mean well let me back up a second because we're talking about Trump you've been much closer to the room than I will ever be in your experience is Trump in your view is he a non-player character in this would they would Stephen Miller um would they be doing this Ross Vought would they be doing this regardless of what Trump tells them all the scuttle but and some of the scuttle but comes from people like Laura Lumer others who leak every now and then is that Miller speaks for Trump and Bout speaks for Trump but I have a very difficult time understanding how they get around the natural which I've been

23:33exposed to for almost 50 years bureaucracy I'll call it of the federal structure and how they get around the constitutional strictures they're in that structure and how they manipulate a president to the extent that I think they are unless they are operating on their own primarily while Trump does his thing and Trump's thing of course is just grifting it's making money as much money as he can as fast as he can I think the main thing that might come into play here with the guard of the war in southwest Asia and maybe even the war in Ukraine is that when Trump quits making money off of it then he'll finally be willing to do something to stop them both of them the one he started and and the one that he's been egging on with Putin but I don't know that and it's scary because I don't know it I don't know if they're operating independently of Trump or he's blessing everything

24:36they're doing or even worse he's giving them the general guidance and told him to go execute I can't crawl into his head and figure that out I know that increasingly the chief of staff Susie Walsh who was supposed to be so powerful was not nearly as powerful as she was and one of the reasons is the deputy chief of staff for policy well an anodine title I mean I was in the government I knew Brian Montgomery who was the deputy chief of staff looking after the state department for the White House and several other cabinet departments and and I hardly even talked to Brian because he was a non-entity that's not true about Stephen Miller when Stephen Miller speaks Marco Rubio perks up Pete eggs as perks up everyone in the government perks up because they know he's speaking they say for Donald Trump but I can't prove that I was saying some of my other conversations

25:41you know how the world you know how things change so quickly to where you know what the Trump family the amount of money they've made since they came back into office and and he's studying and hundred buy it and plus and hundred buy it and sorry I need to cut you off go ahead no I was four billion plus Jared Kushner and Steve Whitgoff and and Trump and his family have made the cryptocurrency deal along which should be a criminal act he should be in jail for it they made a couple billion dollars well and the investments into axon which is right down the road for me that's flock cameras number one competitor they made investment there wasn't some type of prison system in Texas or something that they made investment in yeah well sir gay robber off actually said I'm told and Larry Johnson can verify this for you I think but he actually said all Whitgoff and Kushner do when they come here on supposedly diplomatic jobs is make deals with everyone they meet that's got money they make hunter buy and this with hunter Biden you know he's doing the

26:45media circuit now and it makes him look like a like a like a you know a post like a a a boy scout yeah yeah yeah unbelievable where we're at in society today it is it we are such a corrupt society today even I would I would say in some cases we're a criminal society because we we have blessed criminals in the government even do you think these institutions can be salvaged with a lot of tremendously hard work by a portion probably a significant portion of the American people and and I don't see that happening I just don't one they can't get their knowledge up to that level of being angry enough to do something because the media is corrupt too the media is bought and paid for New York Times Washington Post you name it they're they're bought and paid for most of the mainstream channels on television are bought and paid for I was talking to someone

27:50about the New York Times the other day because we're working on this initiative it really is a fascinating initiative I've been involved with it now for several years to create a framework of a government above both the Israeli government and anything the Palestinians might produce whether it's some us the Palestinian authority a combination of two or whatever as a federal government over both of them and just do away with this business of a two-state solution because you're never going to have it happen and essentially have this federal government with a constitution 300 members that are elected we're going to hold we're going to hold the election within the next two years online we've got a really good company a global company that's done this many many times in many countries and one of the things that we've encountered is things like the New York Times they will not

28:51talk about us they will not publish anything about us and the reason they want is because APEC has so bought the New York Times and that's the right language she is that they won't do anything to discard the two-state solution they know it's impossible now it's physically impossible to have a two-state solution because there's no way you can move all that you would have to move to create a viable Palestinian state it's logistically impossible cost billions if not hundreds of billions of dollars and now nettoon now who has moved into the West Bank in a way that forecloses ever having a Palestinian state hurt the UN Security Council resolutions calling for it so they know that at the New York Times so they don't want to deal with any kind of idea that might actually bring a solution to the problem in the Middle East and they do that by saying no we're

29:56for two-state solution because they know that's impossible and they tell us to go away don't don't even talk about your idea because we wanted two-state solution well they can say that because they know that's in APEC's interest there's going to be no two-state solution so they can be for it it's nonsense and yet that's the great lady that's the newspaper of record in the United States and many would say in the world and they're like to their teeth and they're like to their teeth because they're paid off by APEC. How are any Palestinians still alive in Gaza or West Bank? That's a good question that's a good question one wonders now that they're going to get Israel's going to get what two billion dollars worth of two thousand pound bombs that there will be anyone alive. You know Ralph Nader and others that I talk with recently think that underneath and also the British health magazine Lancet others like that they think they're all lying that

31:04the real casually rating Gaza right now is upwards of two hundred thousand so they're saying seventy five thousand eighty thousand we're saying two hundred thousand and we're also saying that because of those two thousand pound bombs already used more tonnages has been dropped on Gaza than was dropped on Germany in World War II. Think about that for a minute Germany's a big country Gaza is a very tiny little place and they've dropped all these bombs so what we think is the blood and guts as it were have been so spread across the countryside that there's never going to be a real accounting and the bulldozers are already pushing over a lot of that the Gaza humanitarian society the UN recognized Trump Tony Blair deal is a farce it's to disguise the fact that they've killed so many and they are still killing them average of 20 to 30 a day they're still killing so I'm Hannah I've lost 75 pounds in 20 months with GLP once plus diet and exercise

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33:15and telev now because of the human remains that are rotting underneath that concrete and rebar and bleeding into the groundwater so you actually have some problems with water being consumed in hypha and telev because of that I mean that's how many people have been killed and the plan of course is just a concrete over that and Bill trumps wonderful city you know on top of all that death well if you're going to do that you better you better damn sure know that the impact of that is not going to be such that you screw the pooch with everything else you're trying to do because you've promised Saudi Arabia you promised all the other Arab countries that a Palestinian state still remains viable and there's no way it does so who's playing who here well net and you know he's playing everyone of course but don't Trump is right in there with the baton you know conducting

34:20the same officer and it now is producing a terrible situation in Israel you've got an election that's probably going to be lost by baby you got him saying categorically that he is probably going to use the nuclear weapon on a rod and you've got a rod recognizing that and either going to preempt or hit him at the same time he hits them and you got Donald Trump I think having told baby having told him we don't mind if you use nuclear weapons so that's where we are do you think that they will be successful of what building this you know resort hotel whatever in Gaza I don't think that's going to ever happen I think what we're going to have is a bloody bloody conflict that winds up in a very intense few weeks taking out the state of Israel for all intents and purposes and leaving this surrounding area in such

35:24condition that the United States will back away from it entirely as it is going to do from all the Arab countries I think as the Houthis for pretty much push re-odd into the ground and destroy the Arab states we're going to have a wholly different southwest Asia and probably the country going to be left intact lots of damage lots of death but left in terms of its system its resolution its confidence in itself intact and its allies China and Russia still with it is Iran so you're going to be looking at a Persian Gulf that is dominated by Iran for whatever intents and purposes Iran might have and frankly I don't think they're inimical to other interests in the region I think Iran just wants to get rid of the United States in the region and to assertly said get rid of its allies like so if you're maybe it's succeeding in that and we're going to have

36:26an entirely different southwest Asia the question becomes as we talked about coup d'etat and things like that how do you get rid of these potentates these people have become used to living off their slave populations living in luxury out of the oil wells that they possess and how do you get rid of them without chaos because there's no institutional fabric beneath them no history of democracy no history of participation in government just slaves basically so how are you going to how's that going to happen I think it's probably going to look kind of like the French Revolution it's going to be a disaster you know you're going to have bloodshed for years to come afterwards as they try to sort it out and figure out how they're going to govern themselves but I think these royals these Arabs who've been living off the land so to speak living off oil and lifestyle of the rich

37:28and famous so opposite and different from the lifestyle of the majority of their population once they're gone I think you're going to have chaos for some time and we're not going to weigh back into it which simply aren't because it's going to be too dangerous that was going to be my next question is do you do you think the kingdom of Saudi Arabia will fall from this and how soon I don't I don't think they can I don't think they can continue to exist for much longer now it depends on how much how much real resolution to change the region and to unify Yemen al-Assar has unsolved I'll always get that backwards the hooties being their military alone but they've shown enough to this point where I think they probably could be triumphant and Trump and the US apparently realizes that because we're refusing to help MBS three times he's

38:29asked us and we refuse each time now the French are going to go the Koreans are going to go maybe some other Europeans but the French couldn't sail two ships the British couldn't sail one and neither of them could muster an entire brigade they could fight on the ground so I don't know what the Europeans are going to offer other than the fact that they're flying they're flagged down there the hoothies will tear them up too actually if the kingdom were to fall then who would occupy it I mean would if the if the I think I said they're wrong if Saudi Arabia were to fall the kingdom were to fall who would occupy it well I'm I told him saying these these you know go back to Condi rises speech national security adviser Condi's arise for George Stabby Bush that Dick Cheney really didn't like it all and she was sort of reprimanded for giving it

39:32but she gave it she's very different today she's gone to the hard right today but she gave a speech I think it was called the the the Mina speech and that wasn't a formal title but it grew to be called that in this inside the administration because it was the Middle East North Africa and I think if I remember I she gave it in Cairo and it was about the time of Barik collapsed and fell in Egypt and everyone in the region and here in America too many were euphoric over the fact that the Arab Spring you may recall that term was upon us that what we were watching was going to be liberal democracy flowing through the Arab countries maybe even touching a wrong and bringing peace and freedom to southwest Asia that's that's kind of what the speech talked about but what it really got

40:32on Dick Cheney's bad side about was she actually told the truth about US support for these tyrants and that for 50 years plus we had been holding these people up so in a real way we had been putting our boot on the necks of all these people in Kuwait in Saudi Arabia in Bahrain in Qatar in Oman and not so much in Oman as the others because they got a little bit better government but most of these countries were tyrants tyrannies slave labor worked for them mostly slave labor labor from East Africa coming over and everybody knew that and so she was telling the truth she was saying this is what our lust for oil has done to these people put them under these tyrants who benefit from this oil and live with golden palaces and money that you can't even comprehend that's what she said

41:35you've imagined how it went over with Dick Cheney who is one of Saudi Arabia's best friends so but anyways you're still the truth that's what we're talking about happening now it didn't happen then it peered out and stopped after Mabarak but that's what could very well start happening now is these rulers collapse and that's going to be bloodshed just like Paris just like France in the French Revolution so in your view then do you see you see this war in Iran it's not stopping anytime soon I don't think so I don't think so and Trump's prophecy that diplomacy is taking place is sheer nonsense nobody's talking to anybody directly they're talking through intermediaries normally the Pakistanis the Qataris or the Omanis and they're not talking face to face and if you're not talking face to face you can't make a deal and Trump doesn't want to do he doesn't want to do

42:39why do you think Iran hasn't attempted to take out Israel's desalination plants I think a number of the strikes that Iran has made were to demonstrate the capacity that they have they could have done a lot more damage and they didn't I think maybe Netanyahu's to an extent extremely worried about what Iran can do to him if they get the jump on him and they're the first to attack because they don't have the defenses that they did it have we have not been able to resupply them we can't resupply any of our allies we can't resupply ourselves we just learned that the Patriot missile production line which was going to take two to three years anyway to get back up this get us back up to speed in terms of Patriots is not even working right now because there's a critical element of the Patriot that we can't get so it's the production line stopped

43:42right now and and this is a real problem for Netanyahu he does not have the kind of weaponry he needs to defend against a concentrated attack like Iran could put on him in a heartbeat overnight it's dangerous dangerous for them and I as I said I think Trump is authorized him to use them for weapons let's show I'm going to shift over to Russia Ukraine and generally do you see these wars converging into one bigger conflict already have you know we have warfare elements in the Arctic down through the Baltic States of course through Ukraine all the way down to Bondar Abbas at the southern end of the Virgin Gulf so we already have a connected conflict and Zelensky's been very aware of this he is moving all around this area using drones selling drones getting contracts

44:49with people so he's kind of an emissary of this kind of warfare that I'm talking about and he's recognizing what's happening all along this arc of conflict and he's trying to exploit it now he's failing and he's failing more and more every day because the Russians are pounding him mercilessly in Ukraine he's even put Banderas boys you know the Nazis he's put them out there now on the front lines and while they are fierce fighters I'll give them that and they have presented the Russians where they entered the lines with some new problems the Russians have accommodated to those new problems and are now wiping them out so he is rapidly losing any capability whatsoever other than drones and such to impact the war and he's going to have to stop it or they're going to kill him probably but it is regionalizing and it has every tendency to globalize you know the governor

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47:56Trump is lying to his teeth about the price of gas and diesel coming down it's just going to keep on snowballing two thirds of America's already in recession by the time we have the elections perhaps even well before that we'll have a full recession in the country headed for depression so the prospects for the midterms for the Republicans are going to look increasingly dim air go they're going to do something like declare the insurrection act in force declare martial law whatever it'll be creepingly done I think it won't be a massive onslaught against the American people in the American voter it'll be a creeping thing in battleground states and other places where they think they're going to lose and they think force will change that proposition so we're looking at a domestic situation and an international situation that as some people have said lately this is precisely what happens when people go insane in the world let's face it

48:57the Europeans are insane the Americans are insane the Europeans hate Russia with the passion and can't tell you why we hate the world with the passion and can't tell you why it's have Donald told us to the world hates us and they can tell you why and we're going to have a big one we're going to have a big one last time this happened this kind of confluence of forces was 1932 33 34 we had a big one we killed a hundred million people this time we have nuclear weapons we'll probably kill a lot more than a hundred million well and the other thing with that is you know that the the choke points right the straights that are closed there are finaries that are getting taken out in various places across the globe I don't think maybe maybe I don't think people understand what's happening regular people maybe they feel like something's off but you're right they know the press is useless the media the mainstream media is useless you know the Koreans

50:02why would the Panama Canal be affected well I'll tell you why it's affected because world commerce goes where world commerce can go and now the Panama Canal the Koreans just paid a four million dollar surplus charge to get one ship in line to get through the Panama Canal that's how difficult it is now the Panama Canal looks kind of like the straight-all moves look right after the war started the ships are lined up sitting out there wondering whether they can afford that four million dollar payment to get into the line to get it into the queue they're going through very very slowly very very methodically having to pay a fortune to get through so it's not just the Bob L. Mandep it's not just the straight-all moves it's a Panama Canal too and I dare say it's probably going to be some other choke points look at what's happening in the Arctic right now the Chinese invited up to the Arctic and the 53% of the coastline that the Russians have on the Arctic the largest proportion

51:06of all and the only proportion that presents some kind of ability to control that passage because it's right along Russia's coastline China for example which has a high percentage but not as much as the Russians it's all field words and you know pools and ponds and lakes and such it's be hard to coordinate any kind of coercion but Russia's got 53% of its landmass of budding this passage the Chinese have just sent a ship through with no icebreaker no problems whatsoever think about the regime that's now being implemented in the straight-all moves what I just described about the Panama Canal what might be true about the Bob L. Mandep is already true about the Suez Canal people don't talk about that much but the Egyptians get a feed for ships to go through there might be implemented with regard to this maritime base road initiative in the Arctic so guess what the

52:08United States is doing right now up there it's got forces under the water you know what those are trying to figure out what to do about this because Russia and China are gaining another base road initiative that's maritime and it's through this new passage so the war would extend all the way from that down to bonder boss and already does really the Norwegians just captured another Russian ship showing how powerful they are in response to NATO's demands and Leberhoff and Putin have said turn that ship loose or else well we'll see what the war else is two things I want to ask you about I know I'm limited on time with you uh what was cheese visit to United States about in your view I think Xi wanted to take the temperature of the empire and of Trump himself to see just how bizarre this individual is I also think he want to talk seriously

53:14about terrorists which I'm told they did but I've not told there are any results of consequence I think he also wanted to listen to what Trump had to say to him which I'm told was pretty prolific about the war and about China's support therefore and would Xi please you know maybe temperate a little bit or whatever he probably listened to that but I don't think it's going to change his mind at all and I think he's very very concerned as anybody would be but particularly Xi because China is winning this competition it is way ahead of us in almost every category of competition economic cultural financial you name it there are way ahead of us it isn't that there already the number one economy in the world no question about that we have been supplanted by China they're the number one economy in the world now they're going after the financial system they want to get rid of Swift they want to get rid of the ability to sanction other countries I don't blame

54:19we got it more than two million people under sanctions so there must have been some talk about that too but it probably came in a guarded way because Xi doesn't want to get Trump's dander up over this when he's winning but I think the problem for him right now is how much does he do that compromises his ability to continue to win because he's having to spend the effort and time and money on the empire's mistakes you would think that he would be saying well let's just let let him go until they killed themselves because they're doing a pretty good job of that and yet he doesn't want to take out such a monstrous country as we are I mean we still have vast power and vast interests all around the world we still have 750 military installations all around the world we still have all of this infrastructure and if you get rid of Swift and you get

55:22rid of the dollar as the base currency which they're going to do but it's they want to do it over time 15 20 years if you get rid of the US maritime power from STEM to Stern if you get rid of all that you got to replace it or you got to come up with some kind of way of operating in the lieu of that the Chinese don't necessarily object a freedom of navigation operations by the US Navy they benefit from that you know they'll object if they're doing it in the straight of removes or I'm sorry in the Taiwan straight they'll object to that but they're not going to object to it in other places where it benefits them too I did a game in 2009 in Beijing with the Chinese they were very very comfortable with the US Navy coming in and doing things that it needed to do to secure in one case the straight of Malacca and in another case the straight of all moves of all thing that was 2009

56:23so it was time ago when we were very much cooperating at that time but they don't want to have the collapse of the United States influence them in a bad way so that they get problems generated by that too so they got to play a very careful game here as does Russia too very careful game Russia doesn't want to break relations totally with Washington but at the same time Russia realizes that Washington is the biggest proxy war fighter against it in Ukraine and that Washington is pushing your opinions to be the same so you know a lot of duplicity going on but also a lot of understanding that Ricardo Olikov said it this way to me in a protocol house outside of Ben and Cuba 2007 I think it was even a dying elephant can thrash a lot of grass we thrash a lot of grass and China and Russia

57:26and other countries like that are worried about that grass and Cuba is worried about it I'm glad you glad you said that I was going to ask you about Cuba sorry to me to cut you off but no outside of hunger as hunger was going on I met with the Cuban Foreign Minister in New York on the 22nd and we had a long conversation about what Rubio and others might do and they're very worried their ambassador was there too and I know quite well she's had me to lunch several times here in Washington she said to me in the hallway do you want another Haiti do you want another Haiti because that's what you're going to get if you keep if you keep this going you're going to get another Haiti you're going to get a hundred thousand in the first wave quarter of a million in the second wave Cubans and boats going to Florida that's what you're going to get I think she's right if we keep up this draconian policy the Russian ship that brought them some oil was only about 10 days I mean

58:34bang was gone and I asked I said is there any prospect of China or Russia bringing you some more fuel don't think so we've been there we've tried we've asked Rubio wants something to fall apart Rubio has three jobs none of which are national security advisor or secretary of state Rubio is the vice-roy of Venezuela Rubio is the man in Argentina trying to unseat Lula in Brazil you and get both Sonarro out of jail and make him the leader in Brazil and Rubio is essentially the guy who's going to take over Cuba that's all the missions that Rubio has last question then oh well two two one one with in relation to Cuba I mean what is the United States interest there there's there's no natural resources for them to take good cigars yeah I think the interest is what it is in Iran it's what it is in Denmark

59:38it is what it is in a lot of these places Greenland I meant Denmark that's I was going to ask you about Greenland too but that was my next question it's because we can you know maybe Greenland has some strategic interest for us particularly with regard to the portion that's actually in the Arctic but that strategic interest has been satisfied perfectly well by security agreements within so why would we cover it Denmark at the cost of our relations with the very important European part because we can because it makes Trump feel good why would we exacerbate a situation in Cuba that Obama had actually started to relieve and capitalism was coming to Cuba slowly carefully but it was coming stipends investment huge amounts were going out of Florida based Cubans into Cuba to create restaurants car repair shops all manner of change in Cuba it was working it was happening it was

1:00:44positive Trump didn't like it and the people who have been here all along wanting to overthrow the Castro's and put a betista like person back in charge are back under Trump making pain for Cuba he doesn't care about Cuba but these people do and he's giving them leeway and Marco Rubio does care about Cuba he wants to create a fiefdom down there like betista had before and like Myers-Lansky the big drug dealer had before so you know we're going back to the past rapidly make America great again let's take Cuba let's take Greenland you can't you couldn't write a Hollywood script for the disaster that this administration is but they're real people affected by this disaster some of them are 90 miles off the coast of Florida some of them are right next to New England and some of them are over in

1:01:47Asia and some of them are in southwest Asia in particular and some of them are bastards themselves like the Israelis in six months where do you think the United States where will we be as you and Americans in this country Larry what will the state of things be a good good projection the war in south-saysia will come to a halt those countries will be in turmoil but eventually they will work it out and have at least different kinds of government Israel will no longer be a Jewish state if it is existing at all it will be a real democracy and it will have the kind of constitution that we're building for the IPC for example in Ukraine Russia will be ultimately triumphant she's just a short distance from that right now there'll be 10 years of bickering and partisan warfare

1:02:50between the Ukrainians and the Russians along the line of demarcation if you will but he will be in charge of a ramp state and its main problem will be its rear because there are other countries that covet parts of Ukraine and would see this as a good opportunity to get those parts Poland comes to mine immediately so Europe will be in turmoil to a certain degree anyway but it can be managed and the United States will have impeached Donald Trump had elections and have a new and reasonably competent president that's the good protection the bad protection is we'll have a world war and we'll all come of that come out of it with massive casualties the use of nuclear weapons and we'll have a disaster for at least a decade or two if we survive was your gut tell you good projection or bad projection objectively well probably it'll come out somewhere in the middle

1:03:52all that and I don't know how to parse that middle you know the best solution is immediate movement by the Congress to impeachment post elections and I wouldn't even wait for the seating of the new Congress I'd use the old Congress and impeachment and get him out of office when you're running a growing business the right systems can unlock your full sales potential and make fulfilling every order effortless switch to ship station before peak season so you're prepped and ready before the rush hits ship station connects Shopify Amazon TikTok shop and over 200 more marketplaces with one platform that does it all you can manage orders sink inventory track returns all automatically everything your operation needs all in one place upgrade your shipping operations to stress prove your biggest sales days and capture every bit of potential revenue go to shipstation.com and use code audio and get 30 days free Ryan Reynolds here for Mint Mobile the message for everyone paying big wireless way too much please for the love everything goodness world stop with mint you can get premium wireless for just $15 a month of course if you enjoy overpay no judgments

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1:05:59so that's i don't know that that's a solution you remember jerry for it came in under that kind of circumstance pyro agnew vice president that had to leave didn't have a vice president so when nixon was impeached guess who became president speaker of the house that's the way the constitution says i don't think i would want johnson as a president we would all be christians immediately we would all have to go to johnson's church krunal as always thank you for doing this i look forward to you know more conversations ahead and we'll see where this goes yeah we will mic drop you know when you try new food and suddenly it's like wait how did i not know about this ryan c crest here that's how people are reacting to cuppy mayo the one with the red cap you probably seen on tiktok what makes it different egg yolks cuppy uses egg yolks only giving it this rich umami flavor that elevates just about anything

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