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0:00LinkedIn is pretty amazing at helping you grow your small business. We cannot stop your new clients from emailing you at 3am. We can help you sell, market, and hire in one place. We cannot help you be in three places at once. And while we can't help you organize your calendar, LinkedIn can help you land more clients so you have a calendar to organize. Grow your small business on LinkedIn. Learn more at LinkedIn.com, Flash Small Business. You're listening to the Travis Makes Money podcast. What's going on? Everybody, welcome back to the show on this episode. My producer, Eric is here in studio. What's up? Hey, Travis, can I tell you something? It has nothing to do with the topic of this show. Sure. Cool. So I was just quick. Okay. I have 60 seconds. No, just a really crazy fact. So I was writing about Ted Bundy. I'm trying to think if I could tie this into money. Anyway, now I was writing about Ted Bundy. And Ted Bundy, of course, gave his life to Lord in his final days as you do.

1:02And then I was looking to that. I was reading about this. I'm like pulling up a couple books that I was going to order. And then I saw that Jeffrey Dahmer also gave his life to Lord and got baptized in prison. Really? Yeah. Which is crazy. That is crazy. And then I found an article where it said, maybe one day I'll be in heaven seeing holy, holy, holy with Jeffrey Dahmer. And that makes me excited because and they have three points to it. That's crazy, right? But it was an actual take from something. Yeah. So they write all this stuff. Oh, no. But here's a really crazy thing I did not know about Jeffrey Dahmer. So Jeffrey Dahmer got baptized by this pastor. So the prison called and like, hey, we need a pastor. He's going to be willing to baptize him. He's like, who is it? Jeffrey Dahmer. He's like, this can look great on my resume. Exactly. So he goes down. He talks with them. He's impressed with Dahmer's knowledge of scripture as if people don't have tons of time to read in prison. That's all you have to do. And anyway, I'm not trying not to be cynical. Anyway, so he baptizes Jeffrey Dahmer. The day he baptizes Jeffrey Dahmer, there's a full solar eclipse, right?

2:06And that same morning, John Wayne Gacy was executed. That's a weird day. That is crazy. Like you're baptizing one of like the most horrific and notorious serocos ever with a full eclipse that's casting a shadow over the entire country. John Wayne Gacy's being electrocuted that morning. And then he's baptized and then it clears out in the afternoon. So weird. That is crazy. That's God saying like, you're not welcome here. Maybe. Maybe, I don't know. I don't know how to interpret it. So I'm turning his back like he did on Jesus Cross. Maybe. And Dahmer rose three days later. No, and then Jeffrey Dahmer was killed in prison. Which I didn't know either. I don't know that much about true crime because I try to stay away from it. Do. And so I really do. I really truly only know like little, like through cult Ross Moses, I know like, I know what Dahmer did happen to catch the document. The only document, well, I don't even watch those. The only two documents I've ever watched is John Wayne Gacy and the Ted Bundy tapes. And the Ted Bundy tapes I watched,

3:07like my wife watched it all in like a night and then I watched it scattered up in like little shorts over like the next few months. I was like, it's too much. I don't like real horror, you know? It just doesn't, I don't get excited about that. It makes me upset. Yeah. Dude, I started. It's made me a weird mood. I started writing about it. It makes me trust people less. Yeah. Yeah, I started writing about it. And then it made me start digging into some of that stuff where I was like, I don't know about this. This sucks. And then did you know I have a, did I tell you that I interviewed, this is not related to anything, but this is interesting. Now I interviewed a guy that wrote a book on Ted Bundy. Yeah, he's only done that. And did I tell you what he sent me? No. So he afterward, he's like, what's your address? I was like, I'll get my address to you. Now he sent me a swatch of this green trash bag that was found, it's from a trash bag that was in Ted Bundy's murder kit when he first got arrested in 1974. So I have in my closet, because I don't want, where do you put it?

4:07I have, like, that's a strange thing to frame and put in the book. Well, I have a frame. It's like a note from him with the swatch, like plastered onto it. I know it from the guy that wrote the book. And he's like, this came from the detective and he sent it. And I was like, what do I do? Like, but it was such a weird thing to hold and be like, like what this would have been used for if he had not got caught that first time. And he basically loses his murder kit the first arrest and then goes out. Like, the his old story is crazy. Like the fact that you went from being, you got arrested at some like traffic stop because he looked weird in a neighborhood. They could only get him on a kidnapping charge. He'd already kill like 18 people. They had no idea. They found his murder kit, but didn't assign it, like, oh, this is a murder kit. To then getting arrested again, escaping prison twice, going to a state like Florida. Like it's just such a weird story. But again, I don't. We'll be able to ask him about it one day. Wow. I mean, I think there's a better chance

5:08to be able to ask him if you go to hell. And there's any justice. No, no, no, no. I don't know. It's just crazy. Anyway, well, up and coming serial killer, clavicular. That's just announced. Would you be surprised? I have a transition to money. I mean, nobody gives American psychovibes more than clavicular. Clavicular has just introduced his own mastermind. Is that true? Yes. And I think we should put you in it and document the whole thing. Oh, no. You could use a little look-maxing. A little look-maxing. Here's the thing. If you and I both went to look-max, the camp looks-max. That's his camp. If you and I both... That's real? You and I both went to camp looks-max. Okay? It's like a physical camp. Listen. Or this is the name of his mastermind. It's seven days. It's a seven day camp within. No, it's... If you and I went to camp looks-max. Wait, listen. Let me tell you what you get, though. Let me tell you what you get, okay?

6:10Because I want to get your take on other people should invest in this. This is like a, what's that guy, John Stossel? Or no, not John Stossel. Who's John Stossel? John Stossel. Yeah, no, he's not weird conservative TV guy. The myself guy. No, that's Michael Lindell. Hold on. Stay on target. Who's the guy that would go-bye, bye, bye. The guy that was on TV. Billy Mase. Is that Billy Mase? You're talking about the infomercial guy? Billy M-no. The most valuable workflows are often the hardest to document. When they span people, systems, judgment calls, they can stay undocumented, leaving teams, guessing, creating inconsistency and holding AI back. Well, that's exactly the problem. That's a day sponsor scribe was built to solve. Scribe is a specialized intelligence platform trusted by 94% of the Fortune 500. That captures workflows as work happens and automatically generates step-by-step guides with screenshots and instructions. So no one has to sit down and write documentation from scratch. Teams can review, edit, and share the guides

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8:14We can help you sell market and hire in one place. We cannot help you find space for your three desk drinks. Why do you have three? And while we can't help you find the perfect volume for your presentation video, LinkedIn can help you find the perfect audience for your business. Grow your small business on LinkedIn. Learn more at LinkedIn.com slash small business. No, the guy that was on the news would be like, oh Jim Kramer. Jim Kramer. So I need you to Jim Kramer this and tell me if people should buy. Okay? So introducing camp looks max. Okay? Seven days direct mentorship, real world practice. Okay? It's time. I'm gonna swipe to see what's next. You get, here's what you get. Seven days in LA, you get to live with clovicular and hex. Now I don't know who hex is. The hex? I don't know who it is. I know clovicular, but and that's enough. Your stay, your meals and your activities are included.

9:16Wow. You get seven days of shared accommodation in LA, you get to stay in the hostel. Basically, no, it's cool mention. You get a private chef and meals throughout the camp. You get live classes, direct feedback and guided practice in their mentorship program. And you get camp paid outings and activities. So you get to move in, learn and put it into practice. So here's what you get to work on. You get to number one, you get to work on looks maxing. So you get grooming style presentation and daily habits. Number two, cold approach and game training. I cannot believe this is not parity. This is true. This is true. Cold approach and game training. So you get conversation, social cues and respectful real world reps. So you get to learn how to talk to people. And like, yeah, talk to girls. Comfort zone challenges is number three. So you get guided practice to build confidence outside your routine. Number four, you get feedback and implementations. You get direct feedback. You apply it and you refine your approach. And you can get optional content direction to explore your on camera presence if you want to.

10:19So it's a full looks max master class personalized to you with live coaching with clav and hex. Ask questions, get direct feedback and apply it in real life. And you'll leave with a plan to keep improving after camp. It's time to lock in your spot. Seven days in LA with clav and hex, personalized mentorship real world implementation to clav. I don't like it. I don't like it. I like clavic. No, I would love to call them clav. Because then we're on more like a please, please, clavicular was my father. Yeah. Call me clav. What's hex is hexagonal or something? Hex. What is hex? Who's hacks? I don't know. Anyway, comment max. I'll DM you the link to apply. How did you comment? No. So let me know. First of all, first of all, if you and I went to camp looks max together, is there does it say the price? Of course not. No, it's an application only. They're doing what the traffic King is doing. They're like, who's most likely to be in the way we can take a lot of money from?

11:20Killer camp looks max.com is the URL. I don't think they have the pricing. Oh, I'm sorry. It's $5,000. That's actually that's super. That is that is way cheaper than I thought. I thought it was going to go like 20 grand or something. Okay. So do you want to do it? I mean, Loki, it would be a fantastic piece of content to go like film, like just to wear like meta glasses or something and film the whole thing. But he might actually salt you and burn a whole lot of cheek. So probably not the best. Clificular, the full name of hex is hexamlight. These guys are 80s. I don't know. H-E-X-U-M-L-I-T-E. So you have hexamlight, hexamlight? Is that what? What is that? $5,000 though is way less than I thought. I thought it was going to be like 30 or $40,000. Like something stupid. I thought so as well. But again, their target audience though that actually watch their stuff probably doesn't

12:22have that much money. Right. You know what I mean? They have to price it like that. They only valued their mentor. But how many people are they going to put in that? Well, I don't remember for this. He said a chance to return as a professor. Teach future cohorts. Oh, and there's $25,000 prize to a winner. There's really might be worth honestly. I mean, so you're saying do it. I'm going to convince. Yeah, let's start the application. Yeah, let's see. Do you have $5,000 you can spend online right now? Yes. That's the first question. Are you able to travel to Los Angeles for seven days to participate in the boot camp October 1 through seventh? Yes. Are you a content creator? Yes. Contact information full name, Travis. Chapel. You said they're going to email a chance. They're collecting that. Can I put it in there? Why? So they send you? Can I put gas? I'll put Juannis. Put my other one. Put my Travis Chapel. Yeah, but don't say it on. Travis Chapel. Cut that. Do you really want me to?

13:22Sure. What do you want me to put for the phone number? 555 555555. That phone number doesn't look right. You know what? We don't need to fill us out. All right. Yeah, because I mean, they're just going to jump on a sales call and then I'm going to get out. I would love to see that sales. It's some. Anyway. Oh, dude. That would low key be really funny. Like they would be doing some like crazy objection overcoming about like limiting beliefs and like. Should we do it? You know, like, but I have to do the call. Then I have to actually jump on a call with some dumb ass 20 year old watches. Probably the best salesman you've ever encountered. And you like, you're like, babe, you don't understand. I signed up for a annual commitment. Yeah. I'm going yearly, but they said I could come back as professional. I worked my way up. It's like Scientology for idiots. Yeah, exactly. I mean, also notice high college. This is like Mormonism for. Okay.

14:22Never mind. The thing is I don't know any Scientologists, but I do know some Mormons. I can't. He looks like a Mormon. I guess. I guess. Anyway, I like that that guy's name is Hexam light. Hexam Litae. What is that? Clav. Clav is trying to talk to you like, dude, I'm here for a hex, man. It's like fresh and thick. I got your column of that. Clash fit for whites. Fresh and fit for white guys. Okay. What is is that like a precious metal? What is Hexam light? I don't know. Sounds like a witch. When you don't want to hex them too badly as a witch, you hex someone. This is the guy. He's got a massive gap between his front teeth. I don't know if that's a little bit. But it's more, but for him, it's more symmetry. That's like his big thing because like there was this person he encountered in a club who was like in my professional opinion was not attractive. And he's like grabs her face. He like goes, you have amazing bone structure. That's such a loss. That's a serial killer, dude. He's definitely any kill somebody.

15:22At some point, if it eventually came out, it would be like, yeah, that seems like it. It's like the pastor that American Idol pastor that killed his wife. Did you see him falling that American? Why are we keep going back to killers? American Idol pastor. There's a pastor that was like on American Idol and then he killed his wife. But like he, one of the things is they, oh yes, did you see the songs? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Someone where he looked like an accident or something. Yeah. And then but had another girl or something. And he texted like, I want a killer. Yeah, or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it's a pretty incriminating text message. But he was in court and he had written these AI generated songs for his mistress and they played the song. And the, I don't know, it's the congregation, but like the whole group in the courtroom is like trying not to laugh because it's so like it's literally a confession.

16:23It's like, we were just friends. We're, you got to watch this. It's really quick. He's like drenched in sweat. They played like two of them back to back. That's like, isn't him? This is him. No, no. It's AI. That's funny to be a musician and then have AI do it. That's the girls that he killed her sister and that's her husband. And they're like basically, yeah, we got you, dude. The most valuable workflows are often the hardest to document. When they span people, systems, judgment calls, they can stay undocumented, leaving teams, guessing, creating inconsistency and holding AI back. Well, that's exactly the problem that today's sponsor scribe was built to solve. Scribe is a specialized intelligence platform trusted by 94% of the Fortune 500 that captures workflows as work happens and automatically generates step-by-step guides with screenshots and instructions.

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18:39But they start panning, the camera goes like panning around the corner room and everyone's like, what's going on? This guy's kind of into it. It's funny because he was like a worship pastor and this is so worship pastor coded. I saw it coming and everyone's like, everybody started chewing gum at the same moment. But it's so funny because it's like the lyrics are just basically like, I'm in love with you and everything faded away. It's just so funny because I've never seen a courtroom footage where they like pan around like a baseball game. They're like, please stand for the singing of his confession.

19:43You know, it's like crazy. So anyway, so my question for you- What's my mind if people think that they can like get away with that shit? Well to me it's like, I don't even like saying like, oh, obviously you should have done this when it comes to my dad. But it's like there's so many things you could have done. Also, it's just like- Well, you're clearly not a bright person. Also, it's like just get a divorce. Exactly. That's the part that's crazy. But he's a pastor. I get, yeah, I don't know. He wants to be- he wants to be looked at. Hey, hero. Hey, if Dom or in Bundy can go to heaven, this guy's got it made. Oh, totally. No. Do you the crazy thing about Bundy? He's got a little downgrade on his mansion. Just to go back, it's crazy me that Bundy escaped. From prison twice. That's a mind-blowing thing in Chennai. It feels like it was so much easier. Yeah. Because I always think that- When was Bundy? Like he started in the 70s and then in the 80s was when he was- But it's like, his first escape was he was in a courthouse and they let him use the

20:44law library because he's representing himself. And so he literally just jumped out the window. Like he literally jumped out the window and like he heard his leg, but he just ran away. And then the second time he literally just didn't- he- he had stopped eating like a lot to lose a bunch of weight and he just popped the tile on the top of his cell and climbed out. That's crazy. And it's crazy at that point they knew like all the- a lot of the stuff he was doing, but it's like they didn't have like, hey, we should not have the ceiling be where you can pop a tile out and crawl through it. And it was- That wasn't that long ago. Well, it was a- it was a holiday break. I think it was like Christmas or something. So they were lower staffed in the prison. So there was already less people watching, which is crazy that prison can be like, not just to lighter shift today. He like climbed through the roof, dropped down into the security like locker room, put on civilian clothes, and then just walked out of the prison. That's so crazy. It's nuts. That card is full. But I'm like, finished this.

21:44So anyway, so anyway, so when a clavicular kills someone, and he shares his cell with the seeing pastor, they can start doing music videos and they'll go to heaven. Anyway. So what is this guy witnesses to clavicular in prison after he allegedly commits a future crime? And then there are 24 seven live streams just about- We're so off the rails. So here's my question. Should young men invest in this program? Number two, if you and I want to camp looks maxed together, which of us do you think would have the biggest transformation? Because I feel like I'm pretty maxed out already. Like I'm curious like- Disagree. I think you would have a bigger chance. Okay, let's be really mean. What's the ugliest thing about each other? Number two, three go. You're- Oh wait, I'm not really going to say it. Don't actually say it because I'll never be able to look at you again. I know what it is on me. What? That's my nose. That's crazy, dude. I'm jealous of your nose. Like a- Why? Because I would say it's like a very- It's a defined nose. Yeah, it's like a- I always say it's like the Spartan helmet nose. That's what you always say.

22:44I always say- I always say you could rock like a Spartan helmet. Oh, oh, oh. I see. Yeah. I like the helmet. You look like you read so much of- You look at you read so much of Marcus Relius that you're like, I'm going to arm around. I'm Greek. Yeah. I do agree. That's your fuck device that's spacing so weird. That'd be crazy to say if you had a really messed up eyes. Yeah. You're like cross-eyed. Probably be hurt, but- You know what's funny though is whenever you talk to someone and they tell you what the ugliest thing about them is, you're never like, oh yeah, it's that. I feel like sometimes you go- Oh, well sometimes someone's real tore up, but like- Yeah. No, but like, like I- Like, same with best feature. Like I love my legs. Do you? Truly. Like I love my legs. All right. But like nobody notices my legs. What's cause you're dude. And I think the ugliest thing about me? What's I- I'm trying to think. Nothing, really.

23:44I just got- I don't want to say it because I feel like you will weaponize it. I don't know later. I don't want to- They're not- They're not. I just not forget about it. Yeah. And bring it up. No, someone told me that the other day they were like, oh, they said something. I think they said their nose too. And I was like, what? I've never even thought about your nose. I don't think anybody thinks about anybody's nose. I don't think anybody thinks about anybody's any- Now I'm- Now I'm distracted by it. Yeah. I need to like just hammer away at it slowly. Yeah. I need one of those little- Well, maybe we should go. Maybe we should go. Oh. It looks Max Camp. Anyway. I don't want to- For real. Yeah. On a scale of one to ten, which of us is most Max looks wise. Me. Ten. You- Wait, that is a question to the Mason. Anyway, do you think people should invest money in this? Yeah, I would- I'm not the hard- No. I'm going to cut right there. Yeah. Thanks so much for listening. Yeah. You should do that. It's objectively insane trend. And also- He's a degenerate, dude. If you're- Don't do it. If you're- Yeah. You're now dead. Oh, cool.

24:45Into the off. If you're a dude, it just doesn't matter. Like, girls will like you for your confidence and so many other- There's so many other things that they're going to like before. Like, you- The shape of your jaw is improved by- Actin like a self-exhaust. 2.2% weirdo is not the answer. Right. The weirdest thing to me is like, like, you'll see clavicular in like a walk-in-to-like- It'll be in a club or something. It's like, obviously, there's tons of girls that are like throwing them. Because he's a big internet. Yeah. And he's like, I am in a club. They're attracted to Stan there. It's not because of how- But like his jaw like- He also will be like- He sucks at interaction, interacting socially. And it's like, you're such a freak. Yeah. Like that you're- And obviously, that's all the alleged things about him aside. Like, just be a normal person. Yeah. You will find an odd more senseless- Looking at men's bone structure and going like, you could be better- Right. Here's something to face with the hammer. It's a weird thing to obsess about. It's a blot- So anyway, to bring us full circle hitting people in the face with a hammer is exactly one of the methods that serial killers use sometimes.

25:49So go ahead and close this out. That's it for this off-the-reels episode. Remember, money only solves your money problems. But it's easy to solve the rest of the problems. Money in the bank. So let's start there. Here on Travis makes the money podcast. Thanks for tuning in. We'll catch you next time. Peace. LinkedIn is pretty amazing at helping you grow your small business. We cannot stop your new clients from emailing you at 3AM. We can help you sell, market, and hire in one place. We cannot help you being three places at once. And while we can't help you organize your calendar, LinkedIn can help you land more clients so you have a calendar to organize. Grow your small business on LinkedIn. Learn more at LinkedIn.com, Flush Small Business.