Christa Pike's Botched Execution

0:00Nicky Glazer, this stunning tour. The thoughts of death I don't like to dwell on them for longer than like 10 or 15 hours a day, so... November 19th, Yamabah Theater No wonder women rushed to have kids were being trained for it since we were kids. They're like, here's a baby doll. Here's an easy-bait coffin! I got one of those, I stuck my head in it. I was like, I want out of this narrowness. Tickets on sale now at Yamabah Theater.com Don't miss Nicky Glazer, Yamabah Theater. Hello and welcome to this episode of Kennedy Saves the World. Christopheike is up and walking and her attorney says she is angry. Now, a lot of things happening in this case. This is not dissimilar to the Cornell rape case because everyone wants to dig in on one side and be completely right and have it be black and white.

1:05And it is not that simple. And this is one of those cases that requires nuance. So you can be like me and say, hey, maybe the state shouldn't be putting people to death. And then you look at Christopheike's botched execution where they tried two rounds at Pento Barbertaal that didn't work and she didn't die. She was just snoring and you go, oh, maybe there is a level of incompetence and ineffectiveness that is implicit in the state being the entity that it is. And maybe that's one of the main reasons why the state should not be putting people to death. So yes, in wrestling with the death penalty, I have talked about this. I am very much on the side that this is not what we should be doing as a society. If Patrick Clancy can offer forgiveness to his ex-wife who murdered their three children, if Erica Kirk can offer forgiveness to the man who murdered her husband, then maybe we can be the kind of society that doesn't necessarily forgive people.

2:22Because I am not that big of a person. I do not forgive Christopheike for killing Colleen Slammer. I think it was an act of evil and I think that level of evil. If it exhibits itself and makes it that easy for someone to murder another innocent person, I don't think that goes away. In fact, level of evil is unreadable and it doesn't matter what the sentence is or how long she is in prison or if you have the looming threat of execution. Nothing is going to make her better. And I don't know that this case requires forgiveness. I don't know that I am a big enough person to offer it. So I don't. I would be lying. But I don't think it makes us a better society to say here is someone who is truly evil. Let's kill her. And you know that to satisfy a bloodlust and this desire for mob justice. I also think that that you know it is a bad societal impulse.

3:26And you see a lot of that going on in Cornell with some of the protests. And you know there is no acknowledgement that we all need to have and take personal responsibility in our lives. In every facet sometimes you can't control the horrible circumstances of your life. And there are other times where you do make choices that put you in a position to have even worse things happen to you with greater probability. In Christa Pike's case we know too much about her. She has been made a saint and a full hero in the same way that Luigi Mangione and Lindsey Clancy have. And that is wrong. Idealizing murderers. That is a bad impulse as a society. So now we will only know Christa Pike's name because of the evil person that she is. So I think that it is this evil devil born streak inside of her that not only allowed her to live through the botched double execution attempt.

4:35But also you know and her lawyer I don't trust her lawyer. I don't trust lawyers to begin with. But her lawyer coming out and saying oh you know she's in critical condition. She's going to be brain dead. And it's like yeah the whole thing really does veer into cruel and unusual punishment. And we shouldn't have a form of execution that might not work. That might just put people in pain. And I'm sure there are a lot of people who love that she is in pain and wish her a slow and painful death which you know runs counter to the constitution. I didn't believe him when he was like oh you know it's like she might have to be amputations. Now she's up and walking. And he's like oh she's angry. Oh now she's angry. She's angry. I wonder how May Martina feels. Who is Colleen Slemmers mom. Colleen Slemmers the victim who is murdered brutally, satanically when she was 19 years old.

5:35And you know her mom didn't get another 30 years with her daughter the way Christa Pike's family has. And my first thought when I heard her attorney go on and on and on about you know oh she's she's up and walking and she's confused a little mentally foggy. You know she's shackled to the bed. It's so awful. It's like yeah it's awful. It's also the consequence of murdering someone. Don't go anywhere more Kennedy saves the world right after this. Nick Eglaser this stunning tour. The thoughts of death I don't like to dwell on them for longer than like 10 or 15 hours a day. So November 19th Yama Vaugh Theater. No wonder women rush to have kids were being trained for it since we were kids. They're like here's a baby doll. Here's an easy bake oven. I got one of those. I stuck my head in it. I was like I want out of this narrative. Tickets on sale now at Yama Vaugh Theater dot com. Don't miss Nick Eglaser Yama Vaugh Theater.

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7:36I don't expect your forgiveness, but I do want to extend some sort of an apology that will never ever suffice. According to May Martina, she has never done that. She has never expressed remorse. She has never reached out. Now the only closure that this woman has is the hopeful death of the woman who killed her daughter. And I understand that. A lot of people say I'm against a death penalty. I think that as a society, we have to evolve beyond that. People say what if it was your daughter? If it was my daughter, I would probably feel the same way May Martina does. I'm not going to lie. I would probably have the most emotional reaction possible. And that is natural. But that is not the only thing we base laws and legal decisions on. So now what does the governor of Tennessee do?

8:36There are people who want to turn murderers like Christopher Pike into folk heroes who are saying that he has to commute her sentence. And just let her go free after 30 years. I say, no, I do agree with Glenn Jacobs, who, as you know, he was not only Cain in WWE for decades. He's also the outgoing mayor of Knox County, Tennessee. And where that murder took place is in his jurisdiction. And he and I were talking about it. And as libertarians, we wrestle with the idea of the death penalty. And he was like, how about hard labor? And I'm like, not a bad idea. Hey, man, if you survived an execution twice, then you're good to go. So why don't you go out into the woods and chop down trees by hand and toil and sweat and labor? That is not cruel. Shouldn't be that unusual. And it's not torture.

9:37It is a form of punishment, which is the point of receiving any kind of a sentence when you've taken the life of another, but taking someone else's life, it doesn't make that all better. It doesn't make the pain go away. It does not serve justice in the way people anticipate. It is very momentary. And then maybe for someone like Christopher Pike, it is the easy way out. She now feels the sweet release of death. And who knows what happens to her in the afterlife as a believer? I can't imagine it's good. I think she made a deal with the devil when she was a kid. And I think that deal still stands because somehow I can't imagine it was the hand of God helping her stand out from that bed and walk and complain. Seems like it was a much darker force working in her life. So, you know, to have her released from that with something as quick and easy, historically, as an execution.

10:45No, commuter sentence to life in prison that includes hard labor. You know, have the stones to do that. And, you know, don't make her some sort of a celebrity. We know where there are documentaries and articles and fan mail and bulls***. Just send her into the friggin woods all shackled and make her sweat and work and toil and regret. That is a fitting punishment. This has been Kennedy Saves the World. I'm Kennedy. Listen, Add Free, with the Fox News Podcast Plus subscription on Apple Podcasts and Amazon Prime members can listen to this show, Add Free, on the Amazon Music app. Oh, go ahead and leave me a review while you're there. I'd love to hear what you have to say. You've been listening to Kennedy Saves the World on the Fox News Podcast Network.

11:45Nick Eek Laser, this stunning tour. The thoughts of death I don't like to dwell on them for longer than, like, 10 or 15 hours a day. So... November 19th, Yamavath Theater. No wonder women rushed to have kids were being trained for it since we were kids. They're like, here's a baby doll. Here's an easy-bake oven. I got one of those. I stuck my head in it. I was like, I want out of this narrative. Tickets on sale now at Yamavathether.com. Don't miss Nick Eek Laser. Yamavath Theater.