Brad Young & Colonel Jeff McCausland on Iran - h2

0:00The Dave Clever Show is sponsored by the Michael's Flooring Outlet, The Flooring Experts. I got Floor.com. I look at all the lovely people. I look at all the lovely people. Welcome back guys, DGS on KMOX. We're day for us here in the show. Rage is out sick. Kevin Wheeler is playing trains and automobiles. He's flying back from Chicago. His plane was just leaking fuel. So they they're putting him on another plane. We have Brad Young sitting in for them. Attorney Brad Young, he's always great. And now we welcome back to the show, friend of the show, Colonel Jeff McCoslin. Colonel, I always appreciate you, but I really appreciate you today. I know that you're going in a million directions. So thank you. Dave, I'm just going to throw it to you, man. Will you get up on Saturday morning like the rest of us?

1:00Probably a bunch earlier. Can you see an inculge? What did you think? What do you think? Well, sadly, I was not terribly surprised. It appeared to me after the negotiation to previous Thursday, which had achieved no breakthrough. That the maximum that the Iranians were willing to offer didn't even reach the minimum that the Trump administration family was required in terms of negotiation number one. And second of all, it seemed to me that we had positioned the military force required for an attack of this size. And so the question is, how long can keep that fourth position before you pull the trigger and actually execute? So I had actually called CBS canally a priority and told them that I expected something to happen the next couple of days. One thing was slowed down. I thought might have been the weather or something like that. Colonel Brad Young here and not to diminish the importance of this, but we've all seen a Tomahawk missile launches before. We've seen B2 bombers. We've seen F-15s. We've seen F-35s, but the one thing that struck me

2:00about this military action over the weekend and through today is that the US has started using drones, particularly. I think they're called Lucas drones, which are reverse engineered Shaheed 136 drones that ironically Iran makes. But my question to you is this, how much of a paradigm shift is this for the US military to go from wanting one to three million dollar missiles to going and using $35,000 armed drones? No, it's an enormous paradigm shift. And of course, thought about largely by the war in Ukraine and one need to keep in mind that this really cascade across the force, not only in terms of attack drones like these Lucas, but in terms of using drones for surveillance and pinpointing targets, removing any possibility for the battlefield ought to be totally transparent. So those are really other advantages doing things like battle damage assessment, which I'm sure they're using drones right now for into in terms of look at a target

3:02after this is hit and determine whether or not you have to go ahead and do it again. And second of all, using weapons like this, cascade begins in another direction. That is, if you use a pilot aircraft, then you've got to have somewhere in the region the ability to recover that pilot if he or she is shot down or has an issue with your aircraft where the drone if it goes in and gets shot down, that's unfortunate, but you don't have that particular type of requirement. And even beyond that, I know for a fact that we've been working for a number of years, not only with aerial drones, but with submarine drones where one large submarine could deploy several smaller drone submarines that could sit on the ocean floor and then be called upon to conduct military operations or again to conduct surveillance. And one of the things Colonel that we've seen again over the last few times that the Tomahawk missile barrage has been utilized by various presidents is that these things typically happen at night. And yet we saw in Iran the attack happened during broad daylight. What was the difference here and why did the US shift

4:05to a daylight attack as opposed to their normal nighttime attacks? It has to do with the technology of the actual weapon itself. What has to do with, I think primarily the nighttime attacks were done because it normally reduces collateral damage. You're going on a military target, but there are very few civilians moving around because you're really trying to make it so you can destroy the target, yes, but doing it in a fashion in a lot of civilians are hurt. So that goes for the nighttime attack. The daylight attacks this time seem to be based on intelligence that was gathered in the United States or with the Israelis. We know we've been coordinating intelligence gathering between those two countries that early that morning they identified three senior meetings of Iranian leadership and those three targets were hit simultaneously at that particular morning, one of which apparently included the grand dollars. I had told how many of the head of the Iranian revolution at guard force and others. So I think it was the identification of that particular group at that moment. So may have thought the United States attacks at night. So we're relatively safe conducting this meeting now

5:08and they certainly found out they were wrong. Can I have you permitted a moment of levity here? Never have Brad Young on his your co-host. I have Colonel Jeff McCausley. I'm like, so Colonel me good or ran bad? And he's like, so the Shaheed 135 has been reversing. I'm like, what the hell is he talking about? So you're here like, oh, why? You're bringing the noise, Brad Young. Well, it's an area of interest of mine. And if I can ask, we're talking of course to Colonel Jeff McCausley, the friend of the show. And Colonel, we've learned here over the course of the weekend that of course the first strike took out Iranian air defense systems. And then once the initial strike was done, we saw the beetos right here from our home state of Missouri at Whiteman coming in and dropping, dropping GBU large cluster type bombs. But now where do we go from here in terms of an attack scenario now that the US and Israel have achieved air superiority over Iran?

6:09Well, go from here, I think, is continued to average to data grade in particular, Iran's ability to launch missiles. It was estimated that the start of this particular conflict the Iranians still retained about 2,000 longer range missiles those could strike as far to the West as Israel or even into central Europe. And then medium range missiles that could strike countries in the region think Kuwait thinks Saudi Arabia, think the United Arab Emirates. And about 200 launchers. So the effort now is to destroy those take your launch platforms. If you will, take out the bow and not worry about the arrow so much to preclude their capability of building that and threatening countries in the region. And second of all, of course, their ability to in the aftermath of reassess and reconstruct and build more so their production facilities. And then finally, some of them have been talking about how do you take out their drone capability? Because we know they've been very good at producing drones. And once you produce drones, they can pretty much be launched from anywhere.

7:09So they can be dispersed very quickly. So you'll make sure you take out those. If you can find a concentration, number one, and number two, take out production facilities for the drones as well. We're talking to Colonel Jeff McCoslin and Colonel. I'm going to shift from the military analysis to a political angle, if you will. And we've seen over the course of the weekend that in its retaliatory strikes from Iran, they've struck many of its Arab neighbors, including Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, and others. Do you see from a political standpoint? Once Iran started firing retaliatory strikes against its neighboring Arab countries, do you see they're building a coalition here? Not just the United States and Israel, but a greater coalition in terms of shutting down Iran militarily. Yeah, I think in many ways they're picking allies for us. We began this particular conflict with only one ally. That was Israel. And you compare that to 2003 when we invaded Iraq

8:12and George Bush had worked very hard. Prior to the invasion, we had 48 countries, at least signed up in a coalition of the willing. We had nothing like that going to this war. And even so our closest allies, like the British, and said they didn't want to allow us to use their bases to conduct any kind of operation like this. Now it's a conduct that attacks against those countries. Many of them, I think, were now more or less coalescing with the United States. Even some of our allies are talking about allowing us to use their facilities. So I think the Iranians may have made a significant strategic error here. They probably calculated that they sort of attacking Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, et cetera. Those particular countries were immediately started urging the United States to stop, halt, restrain yourself in these ticker and bring this to a close, allowing them to survive, albeit in a damaged fashion. But in reality, what has happened is those countries have coalesced more and more with the United States. There are also even reports that the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Taliban,

9:14may have been urging President Trump for some while, along with Prime Minister Netanyahu, by the way of Israel, to do this particular attack. Colonel, is there something in particular why our typical NATO allies didn't want any part of this? Well, they're concerned, of course, in terms of international law. What was the base under international law? The administration has tried to argue there was some kind of an imminent threat. I don't think really holds a whole lot of water. I mean, our Secretary of State is that they were not enriching uranium. We had conducted a large-scale attack last June, in which we destroyed their nuclear facility. In fact, the Trump administration insisted. We used the word obliterated their nuclear facility. And yes, they possessed ballistic missiles to threaten Israel, but they possessed those particular weapons for decades. If you want a country with an imminent threat with long-range missiles and nuclear weapons, will you probably go after North Korea, by the way? So they didn't buy, if you will, the international legal basis for this, that there was some kind of an imminent threat that demanded you conduct these particular attacks

10:15at this moment. And for the more, I think they probably calculated there was still room for negotiations, the commodities, which have been the intermediary for those negotiations, said progress had been made in the aftermath of the last meeting, and they expected further meetings to occur. So I noted in the eight-minute speech that the President gave on Saturday morning that he kept encouraging the people of Orion to rise up, take your government back. It's yours for the taking. This will be your last chance in generations. I haven't seen him doing that yet. I don't blame him. They're still having bombs drop on him. But if they don't do that at all and we knock them back 10 years, is that worth it to you? Yeah, I think that's a pretty tough question and we'll see how this all turns out in every guard what that looks like. But I think you're right. And if we haven't seen the people rise up, but of course, while the bombs are falling, that's difficult to do. And even the President recommended that they stay in their homes until the campaign was completed

11:16and that might be several weeks. But it seems to me also, frankly, kind of unlikely that we'll see that kind of rising that might turn the government upside down. Don't forget only about a month ago, the population rose up in social unrest, particularly in Iran and major cities. And at least 7,000 people were killed. Some say it might have been 20 or 30,000. Well, that's more people being killed in the matter of a few days in the streets of Toronto and elsewhere than we lost in terms of soldiers killed in action in Iran or in Iraq and in Afghanistan over a period of 20 years. This regime is brutal and realizes this is all an existential threat. So if the population does rise up, why do we believe there would be successful against a regime that is a brutal and is also armed in a teeth with six, if you five or 600,000 total army or Indian revolutionary guardsman and Baji's paramilitaries in turning that upside down, absent some leading figures

12:16to unify the population, which I don't see out there on the horizon. Number one, and some fracturing of that security force whereby some of it might actually join some type of popular revolution. We're talking to Colonel Jeff McCoslin and Colonel. I watched the press conference this morning with the German and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Dan Cain and he laid out the military objectives, not necessarily the political, but the military objectives that he was given by the president. Now, given what you've seen so far and I'm asking you to look in your crystal ball but how long do you anticipate, based on what you know today, how long do you anticipate it's going to take before those objectives are achieved? Well, I've to defer to General Cain. He has, of course, the intimate knowledge of battle them as assessment and the target list and he and the secretary of defense are saying it could be four to six weeks. Those ticket timelines have been echoed by the president of four weeks or so, but this might take, so this could go on for a significant period of time.

13:17I thought that General Cain was very candid and measured in his remarks as well in terms of how long it would take, but also the fact that we might expect to see a more cast. At least we know four U.S. service members have been killed for more of a badly injured, so far in this particular operation and we've got to keep in mind as we're talking, that there's 40 to 50,000 young Americans in the Middle East on the ground and some 10 to 15,000 more of float in the Arabian Sea and in the Mediterranean and those youngsters are at harm's way as we're talking right now. Colonel, you are very much appreciated in St. Louis, thank you, my friend. Take care. All the lonely people no world land making all his nowhere plans for nobody. Welcome back to G.S. and Kamawex, gloomy gloomy Monday. I think you're going to find it's going to be like this pretty much the rest of the week. Dave Murray will be with us in a little over an hour.

14:18Kind of a mishmash of our friends today on the show. Rage is not on her deathbed or anything, but she got sick over the weekend and we decided to give her the day off and let her get better for tomorrow. Wheeler should be getting on a plane in about eight minutes and he will be back tomorrow. Michael Kelly was in earlier. He had a meeting. He's coming back at three. Brad Young is here with us now. I want to talk religion. Absolutely. Oh, before we jump into that, I just had a thought when you looked outside and you said it's kind of gloomy, I thought it was kind of like London weather only with us having better teeth. Yes. Well, speak for yourself. Yeah. Okay. I can't say I do. Okay, religion. Yes. As I believe you know, I'm an agnostic. I may, I always feel stupid saying my very spiritual agnostic. I'm a very hopeful agnostic and I spend quite a bit of time thinking about the afterlife, which my friend Andrew does not. We established that last Friday.

15:19And last time I was watching TikTok and I saw a fellow agnostic say, I am a Christ inspired agnostic in that I have studied the New Testament. I love everything about the figure Jesus Christ. I love his teachings. I think he was very smart. He was very radical. And I agree with everything. He says, I completely embrace the teachings of Christ. I'm just not convinced he was the son of God. How's that hit you? Well, it hits me like this day that one of the things I think that most people misunderstand about religion is that they think that religion is a set of beliefs, a set of practices and a set of rituals. But when I hear what your person was, your friend is telling you or the guy you saw a dick doc was saying, it reminds me that true faith is not about practices and religion,

16:20but true faith is about a relationship. So for example, here's a great example. I spend all day, every day, all week long reading medical records. I depose doctors every week. I can tell you more about the internal workings of the shoulder and the knee. Then some general practitioners, but you don't want me ever performing surgery on your knee. Okay. I know about the knee, but I don't have a relationship with the knee such that I could do surgery. And that's the way that I look at faith. And so you can know all about Jesus, but where that person on TikTok is missing the boat is that they're missing the relationship with Jesus. And those are two different things. I know you'll have a great answer to this, but if God is who you think he is, he knows exactly precisely what it would take to convince me and every other agnostic on the planet Earth.

17:21It's in his power. Yes. Why wouldn't he just do that? Why I guess it's and we have like two minutes left. We're getting things right and things. I can answer in two minutes. Okay. All right. Here's the thing. When you when you look at faith as a relationship, then in that context, a person has to desire that relationship, not be beat over the head and convinced of that relationship. For example, if a person has a spouse, you love that spouse, you're not coerced in the marriage. And so if there was overwhelming evidence, if Jesus just showed up and said to John Smith on TikTok, I want you to believe in me, that would not be a faith or a love based relationship. That would be, oh my goodness, I just saw you. I've got nothing else to do but to accept you. But that's not the way that God draws people to himself. This is kind of fun. It's just fun. You know, who can't do this Rachel and Wheeler? That's right. Wheeler gets to mad. Yeah, he'd be ball pissed and everything.

18:23Let me tell you guys about my friend Susan L Ward. And she's a very, very good friend of mine. I've known Susan for 30 years at least because when I started my practice and I was doing divorce law and I didn't know much about it. She took me under her wing and helped me to not look like a fool when I would go to court. She has been doing this for decades. She, I can't imagine anyone in town, including judges, would know any more about the judicial system about how to try a family law case than Susan. But she's not just a barracuda, right? Like you watch too many television shows. She can be very aggressive. She can be very protective. She can even be mean. But it doesn't come out of the box that way. She knows sometimes you need a soft touch. Now here's my best advice. If you're thinking about a divorce, talk to anyone you want to talk to, talk to a trusted friend, talk to a clergy person, talk to a therapist. But before you do anything,

19:24before you say anything to your spouse, make sure you talk to a good divorce attorney because the facts on the ground of what it's going to be like for you may be such that you change your mind at least for a while. I think that's good advice. 314-783-9400-STL-Familylaw.com Taking all his nowhere plans for nobody. Welcome back, guys. DGS on Camelwax. 233, Gloomy Monday out there. Weird day on the show. Rage is out sick. Wheeler is literally getting on a plane right now to fly back from Chicago. He drove to North Carolina. I know, I'm sorry. He took a plane to North Carolina. Then he drove a 15 foot U-Haul box truck through the mountains to Chicago. And then unloaded everything. So it's if that he's girl and Brad, young is sitting in with us right now. Michael Kelly is going to be here at 3 p.m. Bernie Nicholas joins us.

20:24Ella Bern. Good afternoon. I don't know if I was on live air when I chuckled because I had this vision in my head of Wheeler in a truck like bouncing up and down like as he's going through the mountains, you know, like gripping that wheel, looking like a crazed maniac. Yeah, you know, just looking angry the whole time. You know, he's just, he's like, God. Okay, before we get into sports. Sure. On the break, Brad Young, who I already think is a brilliant guy, just knows so much about the law, starts telling us how he built his first two computers. So I kind of hate him. And then your Bernie Nicholas, you're a Hall of Famer, you're a legend. What are you guys bad at? Where are your blind spots in life? Bernie, go ahead. I'll defer to you on this, Bernie. Just general blind spots in life, like anything you're just not great at. Oh my gosh, I can't fix anything around a house.

21:24You know, nothing, nothing. And I grew up, I God, God bless my late father. But it's one of those things, man. It's like where you, it depends on the house you grow up in. Like if you have a father who's a handyman, it can do anything. Just all of a sudden, it's like, oh, I'm going to build a bedroom, you know, and it's done in like three days. You know, I was never around that stuff. So I am totally useless when it comes to that. It's kind of embarrassing, actually. I, my dad was a carpenter and he could kind of, he built, you know, the house that my mom and dad lived in for 60 years. But he was not patient. And so I was one of those kids, where his like, here kid, hold this board or hold this light. And of course, I'd get distracted. And then here comes the GDs and the MFs. So I can't do anything either. I have zero skills. Well, Bernie, if it's any consolation at my house, my wife does all of the fix it repair work around my house. 100% of it, because I'm terrible.

22:24Unless it's a computer, then I can tear it apart and work on it. But everything but that. It's all on the spouse. You know, I got so many weaknesses in blind spots. I mean, I don't know, I could fill it up. You wouldn't have to have anybody else coming on as a guest. I just, I'm a sports writer and a broadcaster. And, you know, some people would say I'm not very good at either one of those things. So that's all I know. That's it. Let's talk about the manager giving a two-year extension and an option by the team for a 29. I guess it is now your thoughts. That's the right thing to do. I mean, Oli Marmal actually is a better manager than I think a lot of people, given credit for. I mean, took over the Cardinals at a time where the talent was starting to dissipate at, especially after 2022. Guys got old. Pitching fellow part, farm system fellow part. Payroll went down. I mean, not a good time to be the manager of the Cardinals. But if you look at, not to get too fancy pants,

23:26so I apologize, if you look at some of the metrics and I'm really big on one metric as a guy named Clay Davenport who's brilliant, he'll tell you what a team's record should be based on all these factors. With Ali Marmel as the manager, the Cardinals, they've won 15 games more than they should have and they've never, never in his four years, not any of those years. Did they lose more games than they should have? The point being in a transition and from the Cardinals went for being a really good team, to an average team and a mediocre team, the talent level dropped, a lot of mistakes made. You know, to take over at this time as a manager, I'm comfortable in saying, you know, he squeezed about as much out of these teams as he could have and I think that his background suits him very well to a rebuilding project and furthermore, high-bloom deserves to pick his manager for that and he got to know, he got to know Ali Marmel really well the last two years. They're compatible, they're philosophically a match,

24:29they have disagreements, they challenge each other. But you want guys, when you're starting to rebuild, it's a critical, critical time for the franchise. You better have the president-based ball operations and the manager fully aligned on what the approach should be and what the priority should be. So I'm good with it, I really am. I don't know what people were expecting here. Bernie, JJ Weatherholt, at least as far as I could tell, has been one of the big story lines out of Jupiter. I read recently that MLB pipeline has him as a top five prospect and I know right now he's kind of competing for that starting position on the team. What are you seeing in terms, what are you seeing I guess is what I want to get at in terms of his readiness to start when spring trainings over in the real games begin? Brad, I would say this, what I'm looking forward to is March the 26th, first game, Bush Stadium, Tampa Bay Rays at Cardinals, bottom of the first, the guy who's on the on deck circle

25:30and walks to home plate and gets a rousing ovation as the first Cardinal to bat in 2026. That will be JJ Weatherholt. Hmm. Well, I mean, I'm writing the day. First of all, he's on the team. There is no way he's not on the team to start the season. The only question is whether he'll bat lead off and to me, he is easily the best suited player they have to bat lead off because he has tremendous plate discipline. He'll take walks. He doesn't chase junk off the plate. He'll make the pitchers pitch to him and guy loves to take walks. If you're gonna, if you're gonna walk him, he'll stand there and take the walk. So the point is he'll be on basal a lot. He has tremendous on base skills. And I think that's what you want in the lead off hole. Bernie, anybody, I'd say below, but you know what I mean? People that were unexpected to even be looking at to make the roster. Any of the prospects in spring training so far

26:31who you've liked, the pop in their bad or the jump in their step? Boy, that's a really great question. I, it isn't so much stats they've put up, but it's kind of what they represent. You know, they signed this left-fielder Nelson Velasquez and he hasn't hit for any power yet, but he's looked, from what I understand, he looks good at the plate. You know, the guy, it was just two years ago, he had a bunch of home runs and let, you know, he sort of fell apart. He had to rebuild his offense and swing and all that. And then last year, he played Mexico, but then the Pirates signed him to a AAA contract. Then he went on a spree in Mexico and playing for the Pirates Farm team where he put up a lot of power numbers. And so I'm intrigued by him because they're so desperate for a power bet. And he can play left-fielder, he can play a little first base, he could DH. I'm not saying he's gonna make the club. I'm just saying, boy, he does fit something that they really, really need. It's gonna be a question of whether he's good enough

27:33or really, whether they think he's good enough to step in and do that. But I guess the good news is they can send him to AAA and not lose him. They don't have to expose him to waiver. So if he doesn't make the team opening day, you know, I think he'd be a strong candidate to come up here at some point. But I just keep waiting for some people to pop, you know, Walker, Jordan Walker, Victor Scott, Thomas Sejacy, I can name some others. I'm just waiting for some people to pop, you know, Avanna Herrera once he gets situated, starts playing more. Yeah. I think the pitchers, I think the pitching in general has been terrific. And I think Richard Fitz, he's not a kid, but he is a guy that needs to like fight to earn a job. The guy that they got in the sunny grade trade, Richard Fitz, he's looked the best of any cardinal starting pitcher so far. I mean, his stuff was electric in his first start. Well, there was a guy that I saw a couple of times.

28:34I don't remember what day I saw the game, Spirony, but I believe his name was Luis Gastelum. And he's a prospect right now. Is he going to make the team? I understand he's got a mean change up, but do you see him making the team? Brad, here's the way I look at it because Ali Marmel and the Cardinals in time, Bloom will definitely be the same way. They're going to go through a cycle through a bunch of relievers this year. They're just going to because that's baseball in 2026. But the Cardinals are very good in the way they run a bullpen, the way they handle everything and the way they move guys in and out. I got to believe he's going to be part of the bullpen at some point because you mentioned it. That change up is absolutely a beautiful thing to watch because hitters don't know what to do with it. And that thing just disappears on him. I mean, the drop on that, the vertical drop is crazy. He'll be up here. I don't know if it'll be at the start of the season, but there's no doubt in my mind he's going to be a Cardinal at some point in 2026. How about JoJo? What do you think of him for JoJo for this season?

29:38Well, JoJo's got to do the Cardinals a favor and he's got to be really, really good about what he does best, which is, you know, he's a shutdown guy against left-hand hitters because he's a left-hand reliever. He's okay against right-hand batters, but he's lefty versus lefty. He's your strength. That's your matchup. He's the killer late in games and those kind of matchups. So what he's got to do is pits really, really well and he's got to stay healthy and then high bloom can flip him at the trade deadline for a good return. Well, I've got a blues question if we've got time for this issue. And that is this. You know, I hope I can answer. Well, Bernie, you will. It felt very odd to me in the Olympics rooting against Jordan Bennington. It just felt wrong. We were watching, I'm like, okay, come on, miss it. Just this one. But now I think he's come back and now he's on the injured reserve. So how is that going to impact the blues having Jordan Bennington out? Well, I mean, they're obviously up again. There's a chance of making playoff

30:40extremely remote just based on the odds. But what I want to know is, what all of us I think want to know is Jordan Bennington going to be here beyond the end of the season because he has one year to go in his contract. And I think there's a market form and I think teams would be able to make a trade after the season. They'll have a lot more flexibility compared to trying to do it at the deadline, especially he's on injured reserve. So I think the whole Jordan Bennington question, will he be a blue next season? It's too early to say, but there will be interest in him. So is it time for a blues rebuild sort of like the Cardinals are doing or have they already started and they just don't talk about it? Well, they like to call it a re-tool. Yeah, it's definitely time for another re-tool. It's just how far they're willing to go with Doug Armstrong and Alexander Steen. I mean, you know, Robert Thomas seems to be, what's the word I want? Maybe the line you draw up, okay. Would they really trade Robert Thomas who's still young?

31:40He still has an affordable contract. All things considered. And he's a really good player. If you can get a treasure trove of stuff for him to do it, where do you keep him and try to build back around him? That's a really challenging question. But, you know, can I branch off your point? And I'll be quick. I promise you. Yeah. You know, it's interesting because the Cardinals are rebuilding. And as you know, in many circles, you know, among sports fans in St. Louis and beyond, you know, the Cardinals are rebuilding. It's the end of the world as they know it. This is an outrage, sell the team. This, that, this, that, this, that. This is the first rebuild the Cardinals have had. You know, build the Whit Took Over really because he had, he had to fix that team when he became the owner, which he did. They haven't had a rebuild since then, since the mid 90s. But if you look at the blues, I mean, how many, how many rebuilds of they had, whether they want to call them rebuilds, retools, how many times do they much start over?

32:43It's been, it happens quite a bit. Listen, I love St. Louis City, SC, SC. So I'm not trying to take shots at them, right? But they had a great first year. They've two, two lousy years. This year's not off to a good start. There's talking about them rebuilding. They've been in existence three years in a couple months. And it's like, yet when the Cardinals have to rebuild for the first time in three decades, it's like they've committed some time of horrible, horrible, unforgivable thing. You know, I don't, it's really weird. It's really weird to me. It's really weird to me. So true. It's almost like having like three kids and one is clearly the brightest and you just expect a lot more from them. You know, the other ones you're like, yeah, just don't poop your pants. So yeah, that's right. You know, like you have, you know, a couple of kids are kind of underachievers and they, they're, they're kind of distracted. They wander around and as a parent, like you're thrilled, they come home with like a, you know, with some C. You're thrilled. Exactly, right?

33:43Yeah. But if you're a star kid, you know, it gets an A minus or a B plus, it's like, what are you doing? You're good. What are you doing? There's your next video. I like it. I can hear it already. I love it. All right. Tell us about Zaliga burn. I'm happy to do it. Great being with you all is, is usual. Okay. Zaliga healing, cooling, can come for dealer and taking care of the Nicholas family for 18, 19 years. But as I always joke, we relate to that party because Zaliga, the same family, continuously is owned as business in 1927. That's right. Dan Zaliga for the, excuse me, fourth owner, operator of the family business, fourth generation, doing a great job is maintaining the high standards and if anything, Zaliga's bigger and better. But what does that say, man, they're 100 years into this thing. The same family and the same building down in South City on gravel. I can tell you all about how great they are because again, we've leaned on them a lot and they're so honest, they're prompt, they're professional, they're so knowledgeable, they explain things, they're patient.

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