Beyond the Veil: The Terrifying Risk of "Opening" Your Soul

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1:02Is a secret mystical system that claims to decode the very fabric of reality itself? This is a system so powerful and dangerous that for centuries rabbis discouraged anyone under 40 from studying. A system that influenced everything from Renaissance magic to modern psychology to Madonna's red bracelet. This is Kabbalah and it's far more interesting than whatever you probably think that it is. Because Kabbalah isn't just some new age celebrity trend, it's a complex metaphysical framework that attempts to answer the biggest questions that humans have ever asked. Why does something exist instead of nothing? What is the nature of God and how can finite human beings connect with the infinite? So if you are interested in questions of the divine, specifically the mystical elements of one of the oldest religions that we know of, well, this is the episode for you. So sit back, relax, and welcome to Religion Camp.

2:09What's up people and welcome back to Religion Camp. My name is Mark Gagnon and thank you for joining me in my tent where every single week we explore the most interesting fascinating, controversial stories from every religion from around the world from all time. Yes, that's what we do here in this tent. I try to understand what every human on this beautiful planet believes. And I truly believe that there's no better way to understand a person than to understand the God that they worship. All of us live in families, societies. We all grew up in some way, shape, or form influenced by religion. And so I think if you want to truly understand the world that you live in, you got to understand all the different ways that people worship and that's what my goal here is today. Now, I want to say thank you. I assume that you probably feel, you know, similarly as how I do, which is why you're here at the campsite, and you have the same interest in trying to understand people in the world better. Now I try to take all the good stuff from every religion and I leave the rest. And today is no exception because we're going into the mystical nature of Judaism. This is one of the most fascinating facets and elements of Judaism to me.

3:13Now really quick before I begin, I just want to say thanks to everyone for tuning in and, you know, making the show possible. Every time you comment or, you know, you click the episodes or you like or anytime you interact with this content, you make my life possible. You help take care of my family. You keep the lights on here at the campsite and more importantly, you keep the fire burning. And of course, you're also making a very, very wealthy man out of my good pal, Christos Papadopados. Sorry. I'm sorry, I can't hear you. I'm sorry, we don't have time for you to go over your lavish spending habits because today we're talking about Kabbalah. Now the first time I ever heard about Kabbalah was probably like eight years old and my mom was telling me that Madonna had become a Kabbalist. Now what does that mean? I had no idea at the time. So I've decided to try to deep dive down into it and what I found is fascinating. And let me just say a few things up top. First off, I'm not Jewish. I was not raised Jewish. I did not grow up in this tradition and I've never formally learned Kabbalah. So if there's anything I miss, anything that I, you know, gloss over too quickly, anything

4:17that I get wrong. Please don't hesitate to let me know if you are Jewish and you grew up learning this tradition. Please inform me. I would love to know what I missed. My interest here is in truth and truth never heard anybody. So let me know. Please drop a comment and be civil in the comments. And to my non-Jewish friends, I hope that you learned something. Please let me know what you learn from this dissection of Kabbalah. Now where do we start? How do we start with the word Kabbalah? It means literally receiving or traditions, specifically a tradition received from teacher to student, mouth to ear, an oral tradition in an unbroken chain, according to tradition, going all the way back to Moses himself. That's what is the origin point of Kabbalah. Basically, according to Kabbalistic tradition, when Moses received the Torah on Mount Sinai, you remember he goes up to the mountain and God basically gives him the Torah, the first five books of the Christian Bible, he actually received two teachings.

5:18The first was the written Torah, the five books, everyone knows, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. But the second is the oral teaching, a secret sort of transmission about the hidden meaning within those texts, the mystical blueprint beyond the books, beyond the actual blueprint. The secret knowledge that was considered so powerful and so easy to misunderstand that it was quite restricted. I mean, the Talmud explicitly warns against studying certain mystical topics. One famous passage describes four rabbis who enter parties, the orchard of mystical knowledge, and of the four, one of them dies, one goes insane, and one became a heretic, and only one rabbi Akiva emerged safely. Not exactly a reigning endorsement for a casual study of the mystical. So for centuries, Kabbalah was only taught to married Jewish men who were over 40 and who had already mastered the Torah and the Talmud.

6:21Now the logic in this is that you needed spiritual maturity and intellectual grounding before diving into this knowledge that could shatter your understanding of reality. People always talk about psychedelic drugs and they'll say, be wary of unearned wisdom. You could say that this sort of rigid structure around the Kabbalah and understanding Kabbalah is kind of the opposite. It's saying, hey, you have to really earn this wisdom. And people are in states where they've mastered so much, you know, former religious training up until they're 40 years old before they can even dive in. But here's the thing. While the formal tradition was restricted, the idea is just kept on getting out, and eventually they would reshape not just Judaism, but you could say the Western world itself. Now at the heart of Kabbalah is a problem and it's a big problem. How can an infinite, unlimited, unknowable God create this finite, limited, and knowable universe? And it's an interesting philosophical problem that we probably don't have time to fully dissect today.

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11:28According to the great 16th century Kabbalist Isaac Loria, before creation, God's infinite light called Ein Soft, basically meaning without end, filled everything. There was nothing but God. So in order to make room for creation, God had to do the unthinkable God himself contracted. Some later mystics insist that this contraction wasn't literal, that God didn't actually leave, but concealed his presence from our direct perspective. But if we were to believe that God withdrew into himself and created a void, a primordial empty space where the universe could exist, it's like God, basically like held his breath. It's like make room for us to exist. But here's where it gets wild. Even after this contraction, the void wasn't truly empty. A residue of divine light remained, like the moisture left in a cup after like you pour all the water out, like it's still like a little bit wet.

12:30And into this void, God projected a single ray of light, which would eventually form all things that exist in our reality. This is creation not as an act of expansion, but as an act of divine self contraction. God made himself smaller so that we could exist. I mean, just think about that. It's kind of an interesting way to view creation that it was actually through God's limiting of himself, then rather the expansion or the creation that we typically think about. Now, that single ray of divine light didn't just create the universe directly. That would be way too easy. Instead, it passed through a series of 10 stages, 10 channels, if you will. Each one stepping down the infinite light into increasingly finite forms. And these 10 stages are called the Sephiroth. And together, they formed the most iconic image in Kabbalah, the tree of life. Now, if you see it here on the screen, you've probably seen a version of this before, even

13:33if you didn't know what it was, 10 circles connected by 22 paths, looking something like a cosmic circuit or something like that. And that's basically what it is. It's a map of how divine energy flows from the infinite into the finite, from God, the ultimate unmoved mover into creation, the potential into the actual. Now we can walk through it. At the top is Ketair, the crown. This is the first emanation closest to Ainsoth, representing pure divine will before it takes any form. It's so transcendent that we can barely even talk about. We can't comprehend it. And below Ketair, the tree splits into two pillars, right and left, masculine and feminine, mercy and severity. And this duality, it is said, runs through all of creation. On the right pillar, you have Chakma. This is Wisdom, and this is the first flash of creative insight. And below it is Cassette, loving and basically kindness.

14:35This is the expansive force of giving. Now, on the left pillar, you have Binah. This is understanding. This is the womb that receives Wisdom and gives it form. And below it is Gavora. This is Strength or Judgment. This is the restrictive force that sets boundaries. And these pairs ultimately need each other. Wisdom without understanding is just intuition with no real structure. Loving and kindness without any type of judgment is just chaos. I mean, you just get taken advantage of it. It's basically just giving without any type of discernment. The universe requires balance between expansion and restriction. Now in the middle pillar, balancing these forces, you find Teferet, beauty or harmony. And this is the heart of the tree, where mercy and judgment ultimately meet. And below it is Yasut. This is the foundation, which channels all of these higher energies into Melkut. Now, this is the kingdom, the 10th and the final Sephora. And this ultimately represents our physical reality.

15:35The destination of all that divine light basically stepped down through these nine stages until it is dim enough for us to handle, for human beings to actually interface with that creation. And here's the thing. These aren't just abstract cosmic principles. Kabbalas believe these Sephora exists within each human. You have all ten within you right now. Self-knowledge becomes a path to knowing the entire universe, and knowing the universe becomes a path to ultimately knowing God. So we have this system. God contracts, light flows down through the Sephora, steps down through all these phases and creation emerges in this orderly fashion, except that's not exactly what happened. Now according to Isaac Luria, something went wrong, something catastrophic. When the divine light that first flowed into the Sephora, the vessels couldn't contain it. They were too fragile to truly endure just the power of God.

16:42The light was just too powerful. In different Kabbalas, we'll explain it differently, but the result is ultimately the same. And this cosmic catastrophe is called Chevrolet Hakalim, the breaking of the vessels, and it ultimately changes everything. So when the vessels broke, the divine light scattered. Sparks of holiness fell into the lowest realms, becoming trapped into basically shells of materiality called the Clipot. Now these shells aren't quite evil. They're more like husks or like the peel of a fruit that kind of hide the goodness inside. And this is the Kabbalistic explanation for why the world is ultimately broken, why they're suffering today, why there's evil and confusion and separation from God. It's not that God made a mistake. It's that creation required this shattering in order to fulfill the ultimate purpose. Because here's kind of a twist. The shattering created a job for humanity. It instilled us with a purpose. With the suffer-out shattered and divine sparks fell into the material world, then someone

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19:52and when the world is healed, the Messiah will come. Creation will be complete. You're not just living a life, you're participating in the total redemption of the universe. So no pressure. Now for centuries, all of this remained mostly hidden, taught in small circles, passed down mostly by oral tradition, but in the 13th century, something changed. A book appeared in Spain called the Zohar, the Book of Radiance. And it claimed to be an ancient text from the 2nd century, according to the mystical teachings of Rabbi Shimon Bar Yolkai as he hid in a cave from the Romans. Now modern scholars are pretty sure it was actually written by a Spanish Kabbalist named Moses de Leon around 1280. But whether it was genuinely ancient or a brilliant rendition, the Zohar changed everything. It was written in Ermaic in a poetic, almost dreamlike style, full of parables and dialogues and very vivid, crazy imagery, and it really systematized Kabbalistic ideas in a way that

20:55could be studied and transmitted. And suddenly, the secrets that were passed down orally for generations now had a textbook. The Zohar spread through the Jewish world, and when the Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492, one of the great catastrophes of Jewish history, they took the Zohar with them. Kabbalistic communities sprouted in Italy, in North Africa, and especially in the town of Suffead in Galilee, where Isaac Luria developed his revolutionary teachings about Simzum and the breaking of the vessels. And then Kabbalah jumped the fence. Christian scholars in Renaissance Italy got their hands on Kabbalistic texts and they were fascinated. They saw connections to Christian mysticism, to neo-platinism, to their own ideas about the nature of reality and the problem of evil and why anything exists, and a tradition called Christian Kabbalah emerged, basically blending Jewish mysticism with hermeticism and alchemy. And from there, Kabbalistic ideas filtered into Western occultism, influencing everything from tarot, to free masonry, to the Golden Dawn Magical Society of Victorian England.

21:59The Tree of Life became a universal symbol of spiritual development, often far removed from its Jewish roots, but the legacy process. Now, this brings us to the modern era, and the complicated questions of what Kabbalah really is today and who it belongs to. Now, in traditional Judaism, obviously, Kabbalah remains a serious discipline studied by scholars who have first mastered the foundational texts of the Torah and the Talmud. To these scholars, it's not separate from Judaism, it's considered the inner dimension of the Torah. It is the soul beneath the body of Jewish law. But starting the 1960s and accelerating through the 90s and the 2000s, Kabbalah went mainstream in ways that made many traditional Kabbalists really uncomfortable. The Kabbalah Center, founded by Philip Berg, started teaching Kabbalistic ideas to really anyone that wanted to learn regardless of Jewish background or without the traditional pre-requisites. And as a result, they attracted celebrities like Madonna and Ashton Kutcher, Demi Moore, often times they were found wearing a red string bracelet, and it almost became a fashion

23:03accessory. Traditional authorities were horrified. This wasn't just popularization to them. In their view, this was a religious distortion. They took these profound mystical teachings that had been passed down for generations, going all the way back to Moses in their tradition, and all of a sudden, they were taken out of context. They were stripped of the Jewish foundations and this understanding of the texts that precedes them, and it's ultimately sold as spiritual self-help. And yet, the surge of interest also brought people to Judaism or deeper into it. Some started seeing this pop Kabbalah sprouting up and ended up studying the real thing. So the debate continues. Is Kabbalah this universal wisdom that belongs to humanity, or is it inseparable from this Jewish practice and this community, and can you really have this specific mysticism without the mitzvahs? Different teachers will have different answers, and I don't think the tension is going away anytime soon. Now, here's what I think makes Kabbalah so powerful, whether you are a devout Jewish

24:04mystic, or just someone trying to make sense of existence, it takes the problem of being human extremely seriously, and it ultimately tries to answer the biggest question that humans have asked for the longest time. We are finite creatures who somehow sense the infinite. All people on earth, basically all of human history, have been oriented towards worship. They feel like there's something out there we just don't know exactly what. And we live in this broken world, and we look around, they're suffering everywhere, there's so much evil, but we dream of wholeness, and we can see the beauty in these glimpses and these little glimmers, and we try to square all this together. We experience this separation, but we long for this connection with some type of divine force. And Kabbalah doesn't pretend that these tensions don't exist, they make them the point. The breaking of the vessels isn't a mistake to be regretted, it just gives us purpose, it literally injects meaning into humanity. If everything were already perfect, then what would there be to do? The brokenness creates the opportunity for repair, and it's not God's fault, it's just

25:06a consequence of God's power. The darkness created the opportunity for the sparks to exist, and that light is hidden everywhere. When you meet every situation you encounter, in the most mundane moments of daily life, the task of the Kabbalist is to find it, and to free it, and to lift it back up to be back in unison with God, the Creator. And maybe it's superstition, maybe it's poetic, and it's an interesting metaphor, or perhaps maybe it's the deepest truth about reality. I don't know, I'm not God. But I will tell you is that next time you look at the world and think, ah, something's broken in here, you'll know that Jewish mystics have been thinking the same thing for centuries and they came up with a very interesting response, and perhaps one of the most researched responses in all of human history, because it's broken, because perhaps that's how it's supposed to be, and you are the person that can help fix it. What's up, guys? We're going to take a break really quick, because I just want to state the obvious. You're not going to hire a chiropractor to do brain surgery, and if you're going to

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27:10that you got sent by the people here at the campsite. Also, this is a paid advertisement. Now let's get back to the show. And that ladies and gentlemen is a short synopsis of Cabala, the study of Jewish mysticism. I mean, I've found it very interesting. I've been hearing this word my whole life here about Cabala and Cabala, and no one really knows, like most of my friends that weren't Jewish would be like, oh, it's this mystical thing. It's like, it's their connection with, you know, their God. And it's like, all right, once I know a little bit more, and again, I'm not an expert by any means. I don't pretend to be some sort of religious scholar. I just, as I always say, a guy with a Wi-Fi connection and a will to learn. But it just seems like, yeah, this is their version of mysticism. Christians have their own mysticism. I mean, Muslims have sufism. That's their own version of mysticism. And it's this desire to experience and understand reality at the most profound levels while we're on Earth. And to me, I don't know, like I can, I can understand that there's some ideological concerns

28:11with this idea of the like reality. You supposed to be broken that God is the one that broke reality and that it's our job to fix it. I can see how there are doctrinal or dogmatic sort of disagreements between Christianity and Judaism. Because Christians would say, no, God didn't break anything. It's humans that broke it and it's our bad will that ultimately created the evil that exists in the world and it's Jesus that fixes it. So it's kind of an inversion where Jews would say, these things broke. It's not anyone's fault. It just the vessels broke and it's humans job to fix it. And then once we fix it, then the Messiah returns or doesn't return, the Messiah comes for the first time. And you can see how these things kind of exist in tension. So I'm not going to sit here and say like, yeah, both are correct. But I can appreciate how this idea of Kabbalah makes sense in its own framework. And it does maybe change your perspective of the divine, but I think the outcome is still probably good. Like, hey, every time you do a good thing, you're releasing the spark back up to God, right?

29:12Like this is a good ethic to do. Like you are helping your neighbor and within you, you have these sparks that you can release through these individual mitzvahs. I'm like, yeah, makes for a good society. People should always be better to each other. Anytime there's a religion, it's like, hey, be nice, be humble, submit yourself to God and be a good person. I'm like, it's hard to argue with that. I mean, I don't know. That's my takeaway. It's an interesting philosophical inversion from, I think, how Christianity sees itself as a dogma. But still the outcome is pretty similar. It's like, yeah, be good people. We can all humble ourselves and try to treat our neighbors like we want to be treated. Appreciate it. Do you want anything? Spring styles are at Nordstrom Rack stores now, and they're up to 60% off. Stock up and save on rag and bone, made well, vince, all saints, and more of your favorites. Why do we rock for the hottest still? There's so many good brands. Join the Nordy Club to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more.

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31:17Jesus is the one that will fix like our reality. And so we don't have to do anything. I've heard people criticize Christian. Now, I don't believe that. But it's an interesting criticism that basically says, if you believe that we don't have to do anything, we just have to accept Jesus and that eventually he will save us, then it's kind of like, all right. Well, well, we're here like, let's just like we should obviously do good things and try to help our neighbors. But like, do we really need to like save the planet? Do we really need to like fix everything? Because like bad stuff exists and that's the way that it is and it's not our job to fix it. Now, I've heard people criticize Christian. Again, I think there's probably ideological disagreements with that that I have that we don't need to go into today. But I can understand why someone would say, oh, no, Teacon alum is actually better because it puts the onus on humankind to save itself. Now, again, if you're a Christian, this is obviously very antithetical to what Christians believe. And, you know, maybe Muslim, I'm curious what it like a Muslim would say to this.

32:17I can't say it specifically. But it is an interesting framework. Like, okay, if it's all on humans to fix everything, then what do we do? Do we create more problems trying to fix it? Do we make the world better by trying to fix it? I don't know. It's probably a perspective question. But I think it's an interesting one that I would love to talk about more. I would love to have a Kabbalist or a Kabbali teacher come on to answer all of my most burning questions about the nature of reality. So, if you know anyone, drop a comment. Anyway, what did you guys think? If you're Jewish, if you studied Kabbalah, if you understand Jewish mysticism, please drop a comment. I would love to know what you think. If there's anything I miss, please don't hesitate to correct me. Anything I got incorrect. Of course, please drop it in the comments. I read all of them. YouTube, Spotify. And if you're going to have a discussion with someone in the comments, please keep it civil. We're all human beings trying to get to heaven, so, you know, no need to be rude. If you're not Jewish and you didn't study Kabbali growing up, maybe you heard about it from Madonna, what did you think of this? Please, drop a comment. I would love to know if there's anything you took from this or anything that changed your perspective on, you know, how Kabbalah works.

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