Ben Bridges - St. Matthew’s House - OvercomersTV.Live #641

0:00Celebrate what Jesus is doing throughout the nation and rise up to answer his call on your life to serve the poor, heal the broken, free the captives and bring joy to those in me. We hope, encouragement and motivation through Overcomers TV. This inspiring network features everyday people and ministries across America who are putting God's love and action. Tune in to Overcomers TV on your favorite app or streaming platform. It's time to overcome. Thanks for tuning in to another interview on Overcomers TV Live. I'm Pastor Chuck. You got the joy, the honor, the privilege to have Ben Bridges on with us today. St. Matthew's house. Good to see you, Ben. Good to see you. Thanks for having me. Yeah, my pleasure.

1:00And I don't know, being neighbors, Naples to West Palm Beach right on the West Coast of Florida. A lot of ministry partners in your area. I'd love to hear a little bit about your testimony. Overcomers TV is based on first John 5'4, where was born of God, overcomes. And this is the victory that has overcome the world our faith on that second half of the verse. Tell us what about your faith journey. Yeah, that's a good question. So my faith journey really probably goes back six, seven generations in my family. Not to get ahead of myself, but my family going back to the inception of the Southern Army in London, England, for six generations, had been involved with the Southern Army, both as our faith tradition, as well as our service to suffering humanity. And so, best forward to my upbringing. The thing recently about, I don't know if you've heard the idea, I think from Eugene

2:06Peterson, when he thinks about the discipleship, and he refers to it as a long obedience in the same direction. I think that's a good description of kind of my faith journey, in that I was just born into a faithful home. My parents were not pastors, but we always grew up saying that we were as close to being pastors as we can get without actually being pastors kids. My dad worked for the Southern Army Church there in Clearwater, Florida. My mom worked for Southern Army headquarters in Tampa. So it was just part of our lives at the church a couple of times a week, summer camp, church camp, all that good stuff. And so that's a good testimony. Yeah, as I think about my life, it's that long obedience in the same direction now. I haven't always been as obedient as I should be, but I would describe it as always kingdom

3:07focused, depending on my time of life and the intensity there. And so to your point, yeah, it's interesting. Growing up in the church, particularly as a young adult, you hear testimony to folks who talk about growing up in broken homes or experiencing some real trauma or difficulties in their lives and then coming to no Christ, right? And this transformative experience they had. And as a young adult, I would hear those stories and think, man, their story is so much better than mine, right? Their testimony is so powerful. And I often would wear that kind of as a burden to say, like, I don't have a story like that. Yeah, like the rock bottom comeback story, yeah, they make good movies and stuff. That's right. I think God likes to save that birth kind of. Yeah. To that point, I was talking to a friend of mine at one point, I'm kind of sharing that sentiment.

4:08He's like, you know, he's this phrase that come to kind of old deers. He's like, you were born into Zion. Like this idea that I would, you know, my story is just one of a faithful family going back generations. And there's power in that as well. So rather than shrinking that, you know, like having the opportunity to lean into that. And then also, you know, you see my girls, you know, behind me, my three daughters, you know, being able to impress that upon them, right? And born into the kingdom. There's a lot of power in that. Yeah. And I do believe we're saved at birth. I don't think God is manufacturing human souls and babies, some destined for heaven, some destined for hell. I think we're all destined for heaven and some get lost a long way. We're going to get reconciled back or found and brought back into the fold. But I think I think we come out the shoot, saved in destined for heaven until we fall into unbelief and do that probably something, you know, that move there. But there was. And, you know, in ministries like yours, I know you guys are dealing with all kinds of

5:12folks, from all kinds of situations, some church, some not. I know Matthew's the first gospel in the New Testament. That's right. I used to be a Levi, right? But tell us a little bit about, you know, your role, your involvement with the ministry now, maybe some of the history, if you'd like. Sure. Yeah. So I had the pleasure of joining St. Matthew's house about three years ago. Prior to that, my wife and I had spent about a decade as commanding officer. So pastors and executive directors with the Southern Army, a couple of places. We moved to Naples, the Naples area back in 2018 with the Southern Army and have been here five years overseeing that work and got to a place where we felt the Lord was leading, you know, on leading us to like the next step in our journey. And so it so happened at the time that an opportunity came available here at St. Matthew's house. And so I joined St. Matthew's house about three years ago, initially as a vice president of programs and then stepped into this role of CEO a lot of year ago.

6:15So St. Matthew's house, you know, despite what the name might convey, we are a non-denominational faith, you know, forward organization. So not affiliated with the Catholic Church as some presume I'd given our name. But it was really born almost 40 years ago now here in Naples, born out of a small group of local ministers and volunteers that had read the words of Jesus in Matthew 25, right? And we all know those, you know, the least of which you've done to me, you've done it, to my brothers and sisters, you've done to me. And so they took that as a challenge and about 40 years ago just began, you know, seeking out our neighbors in the woods and bringing food to them as a means of living out. We call the practical gospel of Jesus. And from those early kind of simple humble beginnings was born this organization now that's really kind of woven itself into the fabric of the Southwest Florida community.

7:17So we operate here in Southwest Florida, our home basis here in Naples, where I am, but we extend up into Fort Myers, the Lee County area and also offer services up in Charlotte County. But we operate with one core purpose, you know, as an expression of God's love to ensure that no one in Southwest Florida is alone or without a pathway on their journey from crisis to contributor. You see that there? And we do that by addressing the three issues of hunger, homelessness and addiction and have five pillars that we use to address those issues. And that's our shelter network, our food assistance program, our addiction recovery programs, our transitional housing and our workforce development that you see there. Yeah, that's great. And so with those five pillars, you know, we just work every day to try to transform and change the lives. Yeah. It's good stuff. A couple of things. Yeah, the St. Matthews thing. So, you know, I was also born into a Catholic family in New York and out of all I knew

8:20is the saints and taught things like if you lose something, pray to St. Anthony, he'll help you find it. And you have all kinds of, you know, traditions around saints that were maybe famous for a good work. Francis was good with animals. Anyway, and I got my hands on a Bible at 31 and realized that the word saint is really the believers in Christ, right? Not a denomination. And I think it's 34 times used in a New Testament, but yeah, it's kind of, it's kind of gotten that connotation, but, you know, so, you know, that's a believer in Christ. It's good you brought that up. We do use the Bible on the show. I love to bring that up. Versa the day on Bible Gateways, actually, Philippians 1, 9 through 10. And this I pray that your love may abound still more and more in knowledge and all discernment that you may approve the things that are excellent and that you may be sincere and without offense to the day of Christ. What a way to start a letter there. But, you know, love is an action word, right? It's not a feeling.

9:21And you mentioned Matthew 25. We can go there next and look at the ex. It is an amazing area of scripture when Jesus talks about when I was hungry. He fed me. I was thirsty. He gave me some drink when I was, you know, naked. He gave me some clothes. Sick. Prisoner visited me like, well, when did we do that? It's like whenever you've done this to the least of these, my brother and you've done it unto me. So that's a, there's lots of opportunities to be doers of that kind of word, right? You want to piggyback on some of that? Yeah. I mean, that's exactly what we're trying to live out. You know, again, we talk about that practical gospel. You know, I think Sandy Gusson has attributed to San, you know, there's some debate whether it did, but you know, it's like preach the gospel at all times. And when necessary, use words, right? And so we implore and encourage all of our people, you know, our teams are in the front lines. You know, you have the opportunity each day to live out that practical gospel and Jesus in a way that you serve those that come to us at the point of deepest need, you know,

10:21whether it's offering a hot meal, offering a shower, you know, offering a place to rest, you know, their head, offering them an opportunity to begin their journey of restoration and one of our addiction recovery programs. But it's fundamentally rests in the idea that that's the call of Christ on each of our lives, right? To meet those at their point of deepest need to offer love, you know, you mentioned love and that's that's exist. You know, if I could distill everything that we do down into just a simple phrase, it's just, you know, to offer love to those folks. Yeah. And practical needs. I mean, we are the hands and the feet of Jesus, you know, if Christ is in us, not that we're puppets on a string and he dictates every move, but he does know how to, I call him holy hunches when he moves on your heart to do this, do that. And you have a choice to obey or talk yourself out of it. And I know if I find myself like too busy to do something good for someone, I'm like, I'm running late and it keeps coming back. I'm like, oh, they're going to give him $5 a day to use for a boot.

11:23Give it to him anyway. And I'll think if I come up with like three excuses and it still keeps like, I know that's the lower it and that's still small. One is more than a hunch, right? And we do addiction recovery here. It's, you know, it's not an end, I'll be all of it. Celebrate recovery is the Christ Center 12 step recovery program. Hurts, hang ups and habits and Rick Warren says, you know, there's two kinds of people, those that need recovery and know it and those that need recovery and don't know it because we all step on each other's toes and bitterness and offenses and unforgiveness and relationships. Broken relationships is really at the root of the heart of the problem because that's really what's most important. Our relationship with God and love one another like your neighbor. So if those relationships are broken, you're not keeping the second, which is like the first commandment, right? Which is again, simple, you don't have to be a theologian to know how to love God and love people. That's right. Right? Still back to you on that. I mean, it's, you know, that's what you guys are all about. Yeah. Love God, love people. That's it.

12:23You know, it's a simple call. Now, you know, is it easy to live that out every day? No. But it is, is it a great opportunity for us to, you know, to be able to tell again, our folks live front line, hey, just, just love people. You know, we want to make sure that when somebody enters one of our doors, you know, whether it's, you know, one of our social enterprise, you know, thrift stores or a restaurant or our shelters or a curry program, you know, we want them to be exposed and introduced to love, to feel the warmth of hospitality, to feel the warmth from the love of Christ. And maybe that just happens in the smile, you know, with any counter when they come in the door. But we want them to know that they're allowed a share quick story with you related to that. Not too long ago, about a month ago, our men's recovery program, they had one of their small groups going out. And this was recounted to me by one of our directors. And they were kind of going through, you know, their exercises and it came time for this one young man to kind of dig into his past a little bit. And he proceeded to talk about, you know, his incredibly traumatic upbringing, violent,

13:25violent father, just a household that was filled with anything but love. And so, you know, he gets the end of, you know, kind of laying out, you know, this traumatic childhood, you know, and at one point, the case management meeting said, well, what do you, what are you hoping to get, you know, out of this experience here at St. Matthews House in Justice Place? And as it's recounted to me, you know, with tears in his eyes, he said, I just want to be loved. Yeah. I just want to be loved. Yeah. For this young man to have never experienced love in his life and now to be in a place where he can feel love. And, you know, in that moment, all his other brothers, you know, were able to kind of rally around him and hold him up. But isn't that true, you know, not just of every person that comes to St. Matthews House, but fundamentally us as people, like we just want to experience love, we want to get to a place in our lives where we feel like we're worthy to then, you know, convey love or deliver love to others. And to love someone, yeah.

14:25Yeah. When the shortest bubble versus his God is love, I mean, it's the words, you know, which kind of leads to my next question. I don't know if you have a lot of public anymore to say there, but this word discernment, you know, I pray your love may abound still more in knowledge and all discernment. So you know, we live in a world that says, like, don't judge me, don't judge me. But, you know, we got to talk about what's right or wrong, good behavior, bad behavior, bad sin, what sin is. And a sin is just an archery term. If you're not hitting a bull's eye, you've sinned. Maybe one degree, you only get 50 points instead of 102 degrees. You're in a 20 point range 10. You might miss the art. 120, you're shooting at the people behind you. You're in the 20. You know, so there's degrees of missing the mark and it's turning to such a church word. But I love that word discernment because God gave us a brain and in the process of helping people and is a good and is a better and is the best way of doing this, you've got to address the holes in the boat. How do you guys, I mean, I call that evangelism discipleship relationship, right?

15:27How do you talk about that? Yeah. So we encourage all of our folks. So we talk about grace with accountability. So we're always going to lead with grace, but we have to have to hold accountable to those things that we know to be true and to things that we know will be most helpful for the people on their journey toward restoration. And so obviously we're always going to lead with grace. You mentioned the prodigal son earlier. We extend our open arms to anybody without exception. And we say in fact, it's our love of Christ that compels us to offer that grace to everybody that comes to us. But to your point, we can't extend a limited grace otherwise it just becomes cheap. A nameable even? A nameable even? Yeah. Yeah. So you reach a point once they're safe, once they're secure with you, then you begin that journey, right? And you talk to them about what does it mean to have that forward momentum? What are the things that you need to begin to exercise in your own life?

16:29To begin to be real built, your recovery capital or what you're going to need to advance in trajectory. And so even in our shelter programs, we have 150 beds shelter here in Naples. We have another 38 bed shelter for women and children up in four mires. But these are not your typical what the industry refers to as low barrier shelters where you just line up in the afternoon and hope there's a bad note. When somebody comes into our shelter program, it is a program. And so they are assigned a case manager. Right. You're assigned, you know, which means it's not everybody's cookie cutter case managers mean for assess. Yeah. They're ready to be assessed. They have different lots of variables, right? Every situation's unique. And so it's a job of our case managers to walk alongside uniquely each resident, you know, trying to understand what are the barriers, you know, to, to, uh, therefore momentum. And so part of our program is, you know, as a resident of our shelters while you're with us, the expectation is that you're either working or looking for work.

17:29Right. Now, certainly have some of our population that aren't able to do that for a mere reason. So we make exception for them. But the most part, our goal is not for you to stay with us. Our goal is for you to launch out. Yeah, I would say it's not a landing pad. It's a launching pad, you know, I've seen a lot of space shows you too. We're right out of my mouth. I've actually, we've been using that recently. Uh, particularly as do you think about the shuttles of the late, yeah, we don't want to be a landing pattern. And often as nonprofits, we find ourselves in a position where we want to protect our people, you know, we want to give them a good place. And if we're not careful, we do become that enabling, um, system where people just come and land and never leave. Right. And our goal to launch them out into meaningful lives, you know, I mentioned earlier, moving through crisis to contributor. That means that not just becoming a contributor for your family, but a contributor for society. Yeah. The body of Christ has working parts. Yeah. Parts not work in the whole body suffers, right? Yep. Which is a case for support for going to church, you know, people, I don't have to go to church. You're right. You get to go to church.

18:30They're not going to stop and let you in. But you know, you're missing church, but the church is missing you. You're gifts, your talents, your abilities. It's a body part that's missing in action. You know, MIA, my dad used to say I was MIA for a while. So it was a long seven years from 23 to 30. And so I can relate to the protocol, son's story pretty good and promise God when I came back, I'd spend the rest of my life telling the whole world about them. So which leads to, you know, getting involved, right? So I'd imagine people that have been through your program also maybe are higher, and want to be a part of the team. You know, they have a real compassion for it because they've been there. They've done that. Yeah. So, you know, you got ways to support up here. I'd imagine do you have some graduates and some folks that are actually on staff that just not that they've landed, but they want to be a part of it. Yeah, it's a really good, really good point, really good question. And yes, we do for, for matter of fact, about 30 to 40 percent, I don't think, give a day

19:30of our workforce is comprised of program graduates and men and women that have benefited from the support of St. Matthews House. And absolutely, there's so much value and the lived experience that those men and women bring to the table. And so, yeah, we do have a healthy amount of folks that are able to sit on the other side of the table, you know, from, you know, that mom or dad or that individual that's, you know, at their point of, you know, desperation. And for the fact that somebody considering the other side of the table, it's, I know exactly where you've been. And there is hope. There's incredible value there. And so, to your point, you know, while we encourage, you know, development and launching now, sometimes it does happen within the confines of, you know, of our organization, we even have some folks that have worked up into, you know, leadership positions, which is great. Yeah. And so, yeah, we have, we have a great team. And really the, the efficacy of St. Matthews House is really built on the back of the men and women that come every day wanting to make a difference, believing in the, the transformative power of God, because it's happened in their own lives.

20:33Right. And with the opportunity to then begin to give back to those that are coming behind them, it's just an amazing, amazing thing. And kind of brought it up here a little bit. Obviously, did I see, yeah. You know, there's ways to get involved financially, physical, peer support, volunteer opportunities or, you know, obviously, peer support, it's important. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what it does with the deal. You got thrift stores, so you find donations. What do you want to talk about first? Yeah. For sure. I mean, prayer is certainly the first thing that we ask of everybody, you know, when they ask how they can support us. We will never turn down a prayer, you know, for the work that's happening here at St. Matthews House. But yeah, beyond that, there's a myriad of ways from volunteering. We've got kind of a slate of different volunteer experiences, primarily, as we look to engage in and get our volunteers and as close proximity to our residents and to our participants as possible. You see right there a picture of folks serving on the back porch.

21:34So every day, I just up the road from where I'm sitting, we serve lunch and dinner to anybody that's in need, things come up and get a hot meal here at the heart of Naples. We also have obviously our residential properties. We have meals that are served and we have volunteers that command to help, help serve those meals. We have volunteers that work at our thrift stores. So a vital part of our mission at St. Matthews House is our social enterprises. So we have six thrift stores as well as a restaurant and a catering company that we operate to help fuel the mission from a revenue generation standpoint. But also to give a workforce development, vocational training opportunities to men and women that are coming through our program to have employment opportunities for folks that might be on the other side. And we certainly have volunteers that support us in those ventures as well. And then obviously from a financial standpoint, just like every other nonprofit in the world, we live and die based on the generosity of our community.

22:34We do not take any government funding by design. We want to make sure that we remain free of any restrictions and our ability to preach to gospel to our people. Exactly. So we are funded exclusively through our social enterprises and through the generosity of our philanthropic community here in Southwest Florida. Amen. And again, the thrift stores are a great way to one, you know, for work ethic, you know, I'm sure there's folks that need to go pick it up, wipe it up, get it in retail, experience. So it's a win-win-win situation. One, it generates revenue, but it also gives some folks some things to do and work on their work ethic. So I know addiction recovery is a big thing. And again, there's a lot of stigma around that word recovery. We could probably do a whole episode just on the background. People come from church and there's church hurt too. Not imagine even having St. Matthews on the front door.

23:34Someone might think it's too religious for them because there's so been hurt by the church. We can't ignore that. So when we say overcomers, there's a lot of things that we need to overcome, including opposition from the enemy. So that's why that prayer support. There is spiritual warfare. The devil's not behind every rock and he's not responsible for every stupid thing that I've done. You might have whispered him out here. Hey, try this out. I did it. Yeah, but you know, we can make that decision's all on our own, right? He seems like I have nothing to do with that. That was all I had to do. But, yeah, I don't make fun of that because it's a real thing, but you know, there's mental illness, there's drug, I mean, again, I love how you have the case worker assessment. It does take an army and by the way, the body of Christ, which is the church, as many denominations as we've divided into flavors of ice cream, I like to say. Yeah, it is the largest army on planet earth. Absolutely. You know, there's more believers in Christ at this point, 2.5 billion. We have a saving knowledge of Jesus. And again, we need to learn to work together.

24:37John 17 is where Jesus said, I pray that they're one, you know, as we are one and there needs to be unity in Christ. So if we can work together, we can really make an impact on them, right? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know, I've been talking about this picture for about the last year, Ronald Heifetz, out of Harvard, talked about talks about the role of the church in the world. He says is to close the gap between the world as it is and the world as it should be. I love that picture, you know, the church role, close the gap between the world as it is and the world as it should be. At the same time, I also kind of, this picture came to mind in the fact that, you know, a pair of church ministries like St. Matthew's house, for example, I had in my mind that while the church's role is important and closing the gap at the same time, there's a sense as to where we're actually down in the gap. St. Matthew's house, you know, serving those that are at their point of deepest need and inviting the church, inviting others to come and join us in that mission to help maybe not close the gap at the same time

25:39that we're filling up the gap. And so it's like this beautiful kind of dance that we all work together on. We say, you know, I've been saying recently, it's St. Matthew's house, as a non-denominational, you know, non-profit, we get the blessing of just being able to tell people that Jesus loves you. And then we let the church handle the rest of the, you know, the doctor and all that kind of stuff. And so we just say, hey, look, Jesus loves you. He wants, you know, he wants good things for you. We're going to come alongside you and help you. We talk a lot about John 1010, you know, you know, you can sum up the whole ball game in that one verse. He came to steal, kill, destroy, Jesus came to give life, life, fundamentally. And so we say, so, you know, we believe entirely in the fullness of life, you know, the fullness of life is not, you know, financial success. It's, you know, being connected to family, being connected to community, being connected to faith, you know, having stable, you know, employment for, you know, through which you can provide for your family, you know, being a part of celebrations and birthdays and all those things. And for some people, their first step toward, you know, that fulfilled life is a place to rest their head at night or warm meal.

26:46And so the fact that we have to kind of be on the front lines of that, you know, introducing people to the life fulfill is a real blessing. Yeah. And to your point to that gap or success, I think it's half time was a book written, John a blank on the author, but it turned into a movement where businessmen at 40 are like, this is all there is, you know, but they instead of living for success, now they're living for significance. And what a difference, right? So what a great opportunity because to you and your staff, I'm guessing it's more than a job. It's a calling and that's the name of our television documentary series. We've been talking to you guys since 2014 about maybe doing a documentary one day interviewing a bunch of the staff, people, hands and feet to get a fuller picture of some of the programs and stuff. We'll talk about that. But and it's a simple answer, but I'll ask anyway, why do you do what you do? Yeah, because I think I believe, you know, with my whole heart that every man, woman and child was created for purpose.

27:50And every man, woman and child should be afford the opportunity to experience life in the kingdom. And all that has to offer that life fulfilled. And so the extent to which we can, you know, play a part in that however small that might be an encouraging folks along their journey toward the kingdom. Because we believe that love is powerful. The love of Jesus is real. And we want to make sure that everybody understands that knows that. Amen. That's good. Good word. Anything else to Lord put on your heart to share with us today? And we're about out of time and I wanted to pray. And I know you got some events coming up Thanksgiving Christmas. But you guys are, you know, everybody thinks about doing something around the holidays, but it's 265 all year round. Yeah, we do say that a lot, you know, when I talk to people, and especially here in Southwest Florida, we know all our snowbirds are just starting to come back now slowly. And so we try to pack as much as we can into that season. And a lot of it does happen on the holidays. We do, you know, Thanksgiving drive. We'll do about 7,000 families, you know, making sure that they're going to good Thanksgiving meal.

28:52You know, so they can experience that hope and joy of the holiday season. We have a Christmas market for all of our residents where they can come and shop for gifts for themselves and for their families and Christmas meals. Thanksgiving day will have will have a community meal here. But to your point, yeah, beyond that, you know, our shelters never close. And so we're operating, you know, 24, 7, 365. And so it takes it certainly takes a team. So to the extent that, you know, this, this community is willing to support, you know, it's a beautiful place to live here in South Florida. And we play, we see ourselves as playing a vital role in making sure that Naples and South of Florida is beautiful for everybody here. Not just in the, the aesthetic beauty and the environment, but in a way that we care for one another. The way they're sure. Yeah, that's good. So it's a huge blessing to play that part. Well, we pray on every show. I'd love you to lead our viewers in prayer. I'll close this. Sound good? Yeah. Let's do it. Thanks God so much for the incredible privilege that we have. As your children, as your disciples to live out, to call that you've placed on our lives, to love the unlove, to welcome in the wanderer to provide food for the hungry clothing for the naked.

30:05What a beautiful opportunity we have to show your love to our neighbors. And so that we pray that you continue to spur us on that you would give us encouragement in those moments where we need an extra dose of energy. Or optimism that you were reminded us in those in those moments that you love us that you are near to the broken hearted in some ways. And that you you're there to invite each of us into your loving arms and into your kingdom. And so pray that God that you continue to bring people alongside us and our partners here in Florida and Southwest Florida that we could continue to do your work. And living out the gospel. Pretty things in your name. Amen. And thank you, Lord, for time we've been. How fast 30 minutes goes, talking about your work, your word, your people doing your will. And we know the needs can be great at times, especially with certain economies. But we know your economy is you're the source. You have plenty and you're distributing separate your faithful.

31:08Those that have their ears open would know what to give their time, their treasured or towns and partnership. And made this organization inspire others in every city to consider their own local Jerusalem as an opportunity to do ministry and programs like this. Pray blessing over them their board, their staff, the many volunteers and their donors. 100 fold return. We pray in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Well, again, for those listening to podcast, Ben bridges, St. Matthews house. St. Matthews house, dot org. You do have a main number 2397740500. And yeah, that was good stuff. Yeah. Until our next interview on overcomers TV live, then if you stay put for one minute, we'll close with a my pillow commercial. Great. Overcomers TV streaming now. Download our app on your smart TV, Roku, Apple TV and more. My pillow second annual mega sale is finally here. Get our patented premium. My pillow is that adjust your exact individual needs to give you the best sleep of your life.

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