AEW Dynamite: ALL IN Fallout | New Level Is All Elite | Ospreay VS Mox Set For All Out

0:00Good God! Kaitlexus Hele Ha Ra Ra Ra Everyone welcome back to the term buckle tavern. My name is Sneed. I'm Chad. We are On the fallout from all in on our way to all out fall out from all on Alin Alin Alin From all in oh Man, yeah, yeah, it was a good show. What'd you think of? Oh just phenomenal man. It's just And I think a said it we said it while we were watching it just feels more like

1:05Amania than Amania feels like mania. Yeah, it's the new WrestleMania. It is WrestleMania doesn't hasn't felt the same since they went two nights tonight Not to say you know they've had some big moments they make all the I'm not dictating about money Yeah, it's and scope. I'm going quality that and that's what they lose with the two nights You lose the quality because you're so any more everybody a shot on there, but all in was great all in was awesome Yeah, well, we'll talk a little all in we'll talk a little dynamite Shit, we'll talk some all out because yeah, a couple big matches were announced We know exactly where we're going So It looks to be a Pretty good card for something they got to turn around so quick. Yeah, it seems I mean, it's such a fast turnaround. I mean at least we have a couple of weeks to let it breathe. Yeah, I mean when they were doing

2:10Back-to-back Yeah, that one That's you can't That's tough, but we'll go ahead because there's news we want to talk There's a couple little things we'll probably go bitch about at the top of the show like we typically do and We got to talk dynamite some really interesting things came out of there. We had somebody return last night too and a debut of a dynamite debut for one of the big signings and we'll get into all that but And we're gonna talk bitch off because I want that's one of the ones we're gonna say that's one of the ones we're gonna Bitch about we got to pay some bills. Oh Uh-oh How about paying some bills The Turnbuckle tavern patreon go sign up patreon.com backslash the turnbuckle tavern All the shows us wrestling tonight. We're all down even even the movie podcast that me and Hock do is over there all video versions

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5:23News any news well, there is some news, but I have a story. I want to tell okay Something that happened to me at work yesterday. I was outside. I usually try to take a little stroll during the morning Yeah, I was walking outside Raining to somebody that we went to high school with that works there at the Capitol that I hadn't seen in a very very very very long time Started talking to him I knew he was doing some sort of Podcast slash YouTube slash TV show stuff at one point And is still in it very big in the paranormal side of it Who Joseph Purdue Joe who lived right below below Danny. That's cool. Yeah So ran into him we were talking and He was talking about that and he was talking about just

6:24The the the the pains of being on YouTube and the pains and I was like I said dude I get it and I told him that we did a podcast and he Of course was inquiring about what it was about and I told him wrestling Which opened the door to him and he was saying oh man. I'm taking my kids to see wrestling coming up and And at that moment I said the next thing that I hear is gonna be a deciding I'm gonna judge whether I go back Inside where I continue to have this conversation. Where's he going? No shit. He said I'm taking my kids to see a w. I said good fucking choice. I said I'll fucking be there a W collision baby. Yep. Yeah, well, that's cool Yeah, my knee jerk reaction anytime someone says that now where we have two shows coming I Almost assumed they're going to smack yeah always do I And I think it's back down Huntington or it's Charleston to it's okay

7:26First time we've had a live television wwe event that tells you how much I'm paying attention to what they're doing Because I didn't even know if it was coming here or Huntington. Yeah, it's here Because last time we saw collision it was in Huntington right so I didn't know if the fed because the fed always worked hunting It was all they were always on Huntington town. Yeah, they never they never came never came to Charleston until WCW went away Yeah, once WCW went away then they would run how Charleston was WCW territory in the wars But we had nitros we had a WCW pay-per-view like they we had to get out of this here Um, this is the first time that WWE's ever had a televised live event in Charleston They did they had a role in Huntington, but WWE doesn't know anything about Joey's bar and grill No, nobody nobody if you don't know about Joey's bar and grill I can't take you fucking seriously dude if you went to wrestling events In the 90s and 80s and 80s and didn't know about Joey's bar and grill you anywhere the fuck you don't know wrestling

8:32No, Joey's bar and grill was a directly across the street from the civics center It was so synonymous that If Flair had a mic in his hand at the event every time he's he's cutting promos about Joey's bar and grill I vividly remember Flair in the ring saying Joey's bar and grill 18 to 29 no boy friends no husbands Yeah, I mean always I remember this it's no longer there anymore Didn't you get something from Joey's bar and grill didn't you find something on eBay? No, I found somebody local that had a Joey's bar and grill matchbook matchbook Yeah, I remember you got something from Joey's bar and grill now I talked to Flair a couple years ago at a convention Told him I was from Charleston and I said I remember you talking about Joey's and he said you're too young to have been in Joey's And I said and see you're right. I said I wasn't in Joey's I said, but I remember that being the spot and he said oh it was And he said and that's what he was it even Flair still to this day was asking is Joey still alive

9:35Do you know about Joey's cool like cool like still knows about the spot. That's how yeah, I con it I conical on the on the circuit dude The buildings no longer there, but what I remember when I think of that building the thing the first thing that comes into my mind is the white lattice Oh, yeah right out front. That's exactly the only thing I remember and was that like the outdoor area? Yeah, so beyond that ladder because there was a building, but then they had like this white lattice That surrounded it where I guess that was like the smoking you could sit outside and I think the building still there though. I think it's a gambling spot now. Oh, is that the same building? Okay, I'm okay. Yep But yeah, um, well, that's good Joe's taking his kids to collision. Yeah, he's taking his kids to AW and um, I haven't seen Joe in a long time. It's honestly probably been probably been 25 years That's crazy probably probably been 25 years. Well, did you get his channel? Did you check because I had to check check out what he does

10:37And I will because he's also I'm gonna push it out to you guys because he's also pushing us out to his followers Well, I love that he's doing that because I mean we don't really go down rabbit holes But I'm a fucking paranormal nerd. I love ghosts and UFOs and shit like that So remind me to tell you off air some of the stuff that he told me that they have Going on that they It's a couple things that happened to him. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, that's super cool. I love when people are creative Yeah, when they have channels or or Band like I just like people Creating shit and they passionate about what they love they are doing a Talk they're doing a speech at mothma investible. Oh, it's I'm I was thinking about going. Yeah They're doing a whole thing. They have a whole Presentation and things that did that is a amazing. That's a very very

11:38big What would you call it like a Subgenre culture subculture of you you could And I feel like it's ripe to find a following and success in that if you do it well. Yeah Yep, because people are hungry for that shit dude. I'll listen to a ton of UFO podcasts You're always looking for good ones. Yeah Go anything Some of my favorite episodes of just regular ass Comedy podcasts is when you get a comedian that comes on there that has a ghost story. Yeah. I'm like I'm I'm tuned in. I want to hear yep so Yeah, I'll get the the information for you guys also if you want dive down a rabbit hole of paranormal UFO and bigfoot shit nice apple apolachian paranormal love it. Yeah, and

12:39Yeah, good guy same same exact dude that Always remember he reminds me of Chapman. He just reminds me of Chapman. Yeah, he always just seen He always was a nice guy. Yeah, not nice guy. Yep. Always Got along with Joe good dude, but he he invited us to come listen to them speak. Oh, that's cool That's cool. Yeah, we got Chris in the chat good evening fellas can't wait to hear your thoughts on all-an and dynamite that trio's match last night was so good also tecla rules. Yeah, and we got Tyson in here. Hey yo, what up Tyson? Man. Uh, yeah So that's a cool story do we want to? Do we want to talk bishoff? Is there any other news before we light his ass up? Uh, we can save him for last I did see an article today Just a little bit ago that apparently tko is exploring Half-time style musical performances for major WWE events. God damn dude. They're turned into a fucking circus. Yeah

13:44Yep, I think literally For real last out loud when I I Potably laughed when I saw the headline that says tko exploring half-time style musical performances for major WWE events Just more bullshit. Yeah And you're gonna get the whoa it's gonna get more eyes and I don't give a fuck who? What lies though? What eyes? Not wrestling fans. Oh, you're built you think you're gonna build you think someone's gonna tune in to see Low yoddy Perform in the middle of WrestleMania You know like I don't give a fuck they might tune in but do you think they're gonna be a A wrestling fan maybe Maybe you might pick a pick one or two off here there But when you say they'll get eyes on the product what that means is they'll get more money for their pockets Yeah, that's what it is. They can give a fuck the the brass doesn't give a shit about eyes on the product They want them dollars in their pocket and I get that. I mean it's a business. You're wanting to make money

14:48But yeah, but it's it's it's that's not the business though. What bothers me is when I'm a capitalist dude I like you should be able to build your company and trying to make try and make it as successful as possible I'm all for that But what I don't like is when you have a product and people love that product And then you sell you cheapen that product and you water it down Yeah, and it's no longer the product that people love Because you are chasing more money expansion all of that So I think I respect companies that stay true to what they are and what they do and what they provide yeah, but still Find ways to grow and expand by still keeping that philosophical core value core value You want your core value to stay the same man. Yeah, I asked you you have that that's your heart That's why I don't have a problem with them trying to expand and all this what I have a problem with

15:53Is them doing it By sacrificing their core beliefs. Yeah, you know Well, their core beliefs aren't their core beliefs anymore. It's changed and that's why I've went away too Yeah from them because I no longer believe in what they're pushing don't piss in my face and tell me it's raining Exactly, exactly Um, man anything else. I'm trying to think of news that's happened outside of I mean, whoop. I mean, we're gonna talk new level, but they were on aerial Yeah, the aerial interview Aerial interview where they basically confirmed That it was a more than a 50% pay count. Oh, yeah, they didn't basically they did they said oh and I'm I'm hearing that they're yeah 75 I heard 75 but also her Brian Alva Alva has discredit that and say that it was a little bit above 50 So I mean, fuck I mean, but either fucking way man either way

16:55Well, I think they've shown like they're not in the tag team wrestling business. Yeah, we'll we'll get into that which with oh easy but um I'm trying to think if there's anything. I mean we got The Usos and andrade Yep pop it off at the mouth and Usos fired back said their piece. I guess andrade did an interview where I didn't listen to it. I saw the saw the headlines read a little bit about it, but I don't have the quotes in front of you, but essentially what he was saying was mediocre Samoans can come into WWE and get a push and Bigtime Mexican wrestlers from like CMLL or trip away come into the company and it's harder for them I think that's what he was saying. I think that's the just that's pretty much what it was and Usos came out and said something Yeah, they tweeted back said that they draw. Yeah, they draw you don't and and you know

17:57Maybe they're right maybe they're wrong, but It's all it comes down to this debate of Why are you a draw? I don't think it's as simple as Especially in WWE world It's not as simple as You're really good and the crowd is behind you so they push you right I don't think that's the case. I think there it's It's not a hundred percent on the talent to get over and I don't think it's a hundred percent on the machine of TKO pushing you Yeah, but I think there is It's a lot more 50 50 than I think like you can there's been tons of people over there That are good that have shown that they can draw the WWE didn't put the machine behind right didn't see anything in that person So I think it's one hundred percent true That's some moans over there do get at least more of a look then

19:0099% of Mexican wrestlers that go over there right excluding Ray Mysterio Santos Escobar is a super talented dude and Roday I mean he has bounced back and forth and he had his own issues and I think now his head's in the right place and we're seeing Seeing the the fruits of his labor, but at the same time They didn't did they really give him a shot on Like was he really ever kind of pushed over there on the main roster was he ever getting given a fair shake Or a good character was given the speed title I Don't know you don't see you don't see anybody in the Samoan dynasty going for the speed championship And right now especially They Have a hard on for this bloodline legacy stuff that room so anyone that comes in that could get lumped under that umbrella

20:02I think does get more looks Because they're trying to beat that horse into the ground. Yeah They can they can't come up with anything else like As good as that so they just have to squeeze it for every fucking drop it can provide who was the hairy guy in NXT to the moon Oh Cameron Cameron Grimes. Yeah, yeah, I just When you say that everybody in this for they get pushed I just think to the moon to the moon He was pretty entertaining actually that was one of the only things I liked when we were doing the Vring NXT Yeah, I can't even believe we did that That was what like a 12 episode run. Yeah, it was a little little 12 episode test run I just couldn't do it all it was was bitching about it. Yeah, I couldn't couldn't didn't have the staying power for me Yeah, no, so let's let's let's do that because I don't give a fuck. Yeah, I don't give a fuck

21:03I just couldn't push myself to give any shit about well. I'm a next year WWE watching New level Last night and at all in yeah Was a prime example to be of why I can't vibe with that company over there. Yeah, strip away all the business side of it but The wrestling style it just doesn't Grab me. It's not compelling. Yeah, it's so nerfed dude. I actually saw a comment on I forget What post it was some I mean it was somebody talking about all in and You know somebody made the comment if you're why I don't know how you can want not watch this and and love it or something like that Yeah, it's all comment the guy literally said Actually AW's not for me. I really enjoyed and I quote the cookie cutter style of WWE

22:06Well, at least they're being honest being honest about it and I respect fans like that if you're honest about it I get it god But don't try and make it into something. It's not yeah, they're putting on the same style. They're not dude. Yeah, they're not even In the same ballpark. I mean I respect fans like if you're just like hey, I like cookie cutter. I like the I like the style of matches being honest I respect that you're just being honest, but it's just hard for that such a Hard take for me to yeah to get behind man. I just Yeah, I don't know what easy. He say what didn't that fucker say I he's such a piece of shit dude. I can't stand that guy So I guess the first thing he First thing we can talk about is Tag team wrestling. Okay. Yeah, let's get into that Eric Um He this is one 83 weeks, right? Yeah, this has got to be clickbait shit, right? Is there is his

23:13I guess his numbers down and he I didn't listen to it. So I did I want a hopefully conrad pushback. I never heard what con because it's just so hard to listen to those shows. There's too many ads. Yeah Um his show is kind of yeah, they're they're only consumable in clip form for me anymore Let's see Best show he conrad's god. I think is Jarrett's yeah, um, I'm gonna pull He wrestling in 2026 Do you have an opinion about tag team wrestling in 2026? Yes, the same as it was in 1994. It's it's it's inefficient. It's for the most part ineffective It's very very expensive. It's twice as expensive to put on a tag team match as it is a singles match

24:14And then it makes it even harder to tell a really good story so I mean good good for AW if they think that you know loading up the tag teams is gonna create you know more interest for them Good for them because it's gonna be a lot of them available The reason WWE is is Deemphasizing tag teams is the same reason that I publicly stated I was doing it in 1994 Doesn't make financial sense Now if you don't care then it doesn't make financial sense Nice to have a deep tag team roster because you can fill a lot of time with it Yeah, man that That just sounds like a corporate Fuck oh, well yeah, 100% all the business of the business Analytics it doesn't we're losing that's board that's boardroom shit Why do I as a fan? Care that you have to in in one match you have to pay four talent instead of two

25:19Yeah, dude all while this is the motherfucker that's behind the 97 member NWO right He's the guy who brought two big single stars into his company and created the outsiders Attack team he put he brought in diesel who was a world champion He brought in razor remote who was an intercontinental champion and his Genius story that he's talking about was put them together as a now I'm not hating on the NWO shit No, not at all. I love that. I'm hating on him though He's a fucking hypocrite dude. He's a boardroom hypocrite. Yeah I guarantee you WWE's lining his pocket in some way. Oh, there's a there's some fucking bedroom legend deal. There's some hidden money in there somewhere. Yeah because To say that that it doesn't make financial sense To do that when he publicly said in 1999 that he was not dude

26:21To say anything about financial decisions and WCW in the in 99 2000 right Did you were making the worst decisions and I mean the bottom line for me is I don't give a fuck about business decisions as a fan. Yeah the fact that so I think tag team wrestling is vitally important to wrestling. Yes. I love it. I When it's done right It's the best So for him to say it's come from it from that Corporate boardroom way of speaking that WWE's you know, that's why they're moving away from it and That's another thing dude. Your core value Is gone Yeah, like

27:24You should take the hit and pay Tag teams and have tag team wrestling on your show because that is a core vital thing in pro wrestling is tag team wrestling right so for you to spit out the dollars and sense of why It's not feasible for a wrestling show and I think it's an absolute cop out Line of horse shit when he's talking about it's harder to tell stories. Yeah, I don't believe that at all I don't understand I just don't understand where he's coming from with it though I don't know about it and don't get me started on the He also shit all over the main event. Yeah, yeah Yeah, oh Megan Osprey he had shit to say about that dude, didn't he? Yeah, I think I've such a hater. I didn't like to match it all and I know you know

28:25You know I'm such a hater look For those who like the AW AW style of wrestling It was fine. You got what you wanted you got what you paid for and it meant or exceeded your expectations And I'm happy for you For me personally subjectively based on what I enjoy out of professional wrestling It was like watching a nasty boys match. It was a hardcore paste Match and yes, it's slow It's great. It's just melted my brain when you compared willosprey and kineo mega to a nasty boys match You know what I mean it was like a hardcore anything goes no rules Bring a weapon. I didn't see a kiss his zinc in there, but you know for the most part it was anything goes Was there weapons that got matched? I don't see there's no structure A table spot and exchanging high spots into one of them starts bleeding I mean look two minutes into that match. They look like they were 58 minutes into a 60 minute Broadway

29:31It's just it's not what I expected Certainly the way they've been billed Osprey I didn't expect Kenny to go out and be Kenny Omega from 2017. He's being honest about that. I like that I expect there's so much more Osprey than just you know You can ask for 18 minutes and then making a comeback I didn't like the match at all. What did you what did you want from it though? What an out of touch fucking geezer dude He's a geezer That take I love that old out of touch fox Come out and say that because that is the exact thing That the youth the young fans Comments like that are the exact thing that will drive the young fans to a w Oh that old piece of shit is saying it sucks. Let me check that out. Yeah When have you when has

30:31And we want the young fans because we want them to grow with a w and b lifelong fans We we don't want the old out of touch fox like him like bishoff I When have young people who are a fan of something no matter what it is wrestling movies music When have they ever looked to Old-time people to tell them what's Hot and current and hip and against the grain. Yeah, and cool It really has the vibe of If it's too loud you're too old It 100% what it To me it's like It's like Mick Jagger from the Rolling Stones in The mid 80s coming out and saying

31:32Yeah, I don't really like what those black flag dudes are doing yeah That that hardcore scene that's not really music you can't play that fast you can't have attitude Mick Mick Jagger never said that obviously yeah, but I'm saying the same vibe as if he's in vibe as like some elder statesman in their chosen profession coming out and looking at the youth movement and being like that's not cool Work all it's like who let grandpa in the room right Chris says he probably really didn't like it, but I'm sure that since it's being universally praised he just had to be the contrarian. Yeah, he's got to get those clicks Yeah, he's got to get those clicks. I got another good one for you I haven't heard I've only heard the two that you've played You see what I'm actually matched It's like you know, it's still called sea boss and want to be and Yeah, he does a lot of the same thing as he carries himself the same way to himself and I have with the waters. He's coming out all that

32:34Stone Cold Steve Austin kind of ask the stuff Inside of the ring I get his style. He's got that rugged rough street fighter brawler style For the most part I yet see a John Mosley match that I really enjoyed watching And he mostly does this made God Every time I see it abores me just a little bit more When they stand there and exchange elbows I look at it. They're they're recreating that scene where Don fry whoever he was in the ring with back and pride of you Talking to your talking. I'm right. I mean, that was a classic right you see and you still see it in social media I still get that stuff on my feet You know, it was a big moment whatever happened early 2000s sometimes someone make sure grandpa took his pills So Has grandpa took his pills today All the freaking time and everybody does it and everybody looks like a clown when they do it because you can see through that shit It's not believable. It's not dynamic. It's not fun to look at

33:37I'm glad he So guys if if If you want some 70 year old dude telling you what what real wrestling is Go go listen to easy Yeah opinions don't mean jack shit to me airbush off fucking socks Well, he's talking shit about their announcers to Here we go Would you think of the match though? Confletcher and to kestah don't know what the backstory was Um because you're not watching the announcers to help me out much They call the action but there was no backstory There was no narrative that helped me understand why I'm watching this and I think that's a good note for the announcers as well Is your now your narrative your announcers get more camera time than anybody. They're out there for three hours their job is to

34:39Educate people like me to engage people like me who we don't want you dude. Yeah someone someone take the keys from grandpa That's what the pregame is for is to set up that backstory help people who are just dropping in to the paper because they give you a package before the match that shows Don't they yet. Yeah, I mean they get and and let's be honest dude If you're just watching the paper view and you have no idea of the backstory that's You dude that's your fault you got to jump on and start Following along. I don't like this. That's the same fucking mentality that netflix has with movies right now that fucking Lights my ass up every time you do a show it is not on The responsibility of the show to tell you every single thing and get you up to speed right That's WWE style shit That's playing to the law you're wanting to educate the casual

35:43dude Netflix right now Matt Damon and Ben Affleck have vocalized when they make a movie Netflix executives Inform the movie makers that write the scripts that Netflix are producing that every like 10 minutes They should set work something into the dialogue to refresh you on what the plot is about that's so like It's writing It's it's creativity for fucking dollars man that yeah, I don't want that I like when I get into something And I'm so obsessed with it, but I don't know what's going on and I want to go back and Do my research That's the fans I want yeah that fall in love with the product on screen and they want to Independently consume and research the backstories and right I'm the type of I'm listening to a podcast about A metal band and they're talking about oh

36:45This that and the other I go down a fucking rabbit hole Yep, who was the members? Oh, he died on this record. Oh, who was on this record? I'm like I do my own because I get into it I don't give a fuck about the casual that doesn't want to take the time. Yeah To invest right and I think that that is the big division here between hardcore fed fed heads and aw Sickos it's like hardcore fed heads feel like they want to be spoon fed everything where they don't have they can turn Turn their brain off a little bit and everything is kind of spoon fed to them where aw sickos I feel like Get off in the details yeah for sure and they want to Be a part of it and go back and dude. There's so many when we first are This company first are start watching I didn't know a shit ton of like all the new Japan backstory stuff I didn't even know some of the ring of honor tie-ins like in the early, but I would go back and read up on okay

37:52What what was this feud? Because I wasn't following all of that as a early 20-year-old I don't know it's just he's a fucking geyser man. He's a geriatric fuck. Yep. It's time out of touch It's time for people to not listen to him He's only there because it's hate I guarantee you at least 50 60% of the people that tune into him the clicks they get is hate watches Oh for sure that's because I it's me. I feel like a lot of that stuff is is it is starting to get The vibe in the IWC of There's a shift yeah, yep, that's not the cool shit to spout Like if you're a guy sharing clips of that and high-fiving that bitch off said you're kind of the lame Dork You know what I mean? Yeah, like if that's the guy you're okay, bud Like if you're if you're pumping out bully Ray clips

38:53Like you're kind of the dork now you're not you're the dork That is the dorky shit. That's it's just dorky. Yeah, like if you're finding ways to shit on all in How good that that show was all the different moments they gave us If you're finding ways to be negative and nitpick and With that geyser Take that he just get I mean you're just a fucking dork. Yeah You're not cool anymore. Well it bishoffs time in the industry. It's over It's over his his right his fingernails are breaking almost Of him trying to cling to relevancy. Hey man. I appreciate what you did But we don't want you anymore. Yeah You're a relic man. He could have been He could have taken a different path. Yeah But his ego got involved. Yeah, yep, and now he's made it his life mission to shit on anything Tony con touches

39:57Yep, and you can see it in a mile away. It's so Telegraph and we don't want you anymore. No, I don't want to see I want to remember the things that you gave me but I don't want to ever see you now your takes are trash Yeah geyser trash. Yep Yeah, you it's time for you to live out your years in Montana alone Yeah, alone not alone. I mean not with your family, but all the public out of the public. I mean you're done Your time's done and and it's not coming back. It's not unless TKO wants to roll his ass out for something which Who gives a fuck who cares Chris in the chat says at least when corny shits on the product. It's funny and entertaining 100% yeah Yeah And corny I know he with it, but I'll pull out Hey, I think corny's a little more fair. Yeah, I don't agree with his take on most things right

41:03But I see where he comes from yep We're bishoff. It just sounds like He's better. It's it's fraudulent too like it smells of is this really what you believe or I don't know I just hate the condescending way he says things like him and bully Ray have this fucking know it all Well, I mean if a w thinks that they're you know if they're gonna he's a condescending do something with that good for them And there'll be a lot of tag teams because ww he's not you don't know and they're being and they're successful So anything you say doesn't amount to fuck all we say you w fans Bye See you you won't get into dynamite n' all in yeah Bye bye So man all in Absolutely Langer dude ripped so fucking good love the one o'clock start time a lot of big things overall

42:03It They put on some killer shows. I loved Y'all in last year in Texas. Yep the first two Wimbley's But this all in more than any of the predecessors It felt like this is the first one that They really have the stadium show down now Yeah, not to say the other shows were weren't but they've had three this is the fourth one If you're not including the first one Just a w all ends because we had two at Wimbley we had Texas and now we're back at Wimbley I feel like this is the first one where it's like full confidence They know how to do the show now The Intrances the moments the music the matches this was an a e w style of mania type of show

43:10Yeah, I mean they and they had a stage presence this time. Yeah, the stage was the entrance. Yeah, the stage felt big and important Yeah, with the Triangle metal. Yeah, it just felt I don't know dude. It just it looked It It looked like they had it figured out. How many we have in in the building was like over 40,000 right I want to say 47,000 but I I'm not a hundred percent Um, I can get the number Says 46,987 tickets were tracked by wrestle ticks The turn style count was 41,000. Okay Good showing for them Felt big Huge looked awesome. I mean the show

44:10Dude if you did a still shot of the ring you took all the fucking like if you just a hard cam shot nobody in the ring you stripped all of the Logos and just took a shot You wouldn't be able to tell that from mania. No, not at all. No Because when you're looking at hard cam you can't see the the weight of it. It looked just as big as any mania visually I It It was though. It like it was you can't deny that no it had I don't care it had a big feel and I don't care what The people who ride for the fed say I Don't care AW is they are a legit contender legit They are a legit contender I think they have the culture right now and they're the clear clear number two It's not even fucking a question

45:11Remember when tna was supposed to Remember what a laughable when tna was supposed to you serve them What the fuck are we talking about who said that stupid shit? Who was the one that said that god somebody dumb Somebody really dutch Jesus Christ dude. I think Jericho didn't Jericho say that when he was Didn't he say something other looking he said some off the wall horse shit That's insane to me dude When they're latest pay-per-view we're in different worlds man. Oh dude like I don't know Everybody gets hung up on the tick the weekly ticket prices the weekly ratings All this like tickets and ratings and all that shit I think it's there's something that's immeasurable You know of course if we're talking tickets sold attendance yeah, and

46:12um Just scope and and reach you can't argue with WWE they have that cornered But there's an immeasurable there and I think it's like The vibe of the culture at the moment Yeah, if you go on the IBC dude There is It just seems like the cool company to get behind it is it there is There is a total shift if you went two three years ago That was not the case No not at all It just It was a dark time man was a dark time and there you still have a little bit of those fed head fuckers lurking out there You know riding for their shit But for the most part like even some of those hardcore guys like that have Shut the fuck up. Yeah, and they're starting to be like damn. That's kind of cool You know you're hearing a lot of that like you're hearing a lot of people

47:12Given him props my question is are they gonna have the Are they gonna have too much pride to actually say Okay, I'll watch a w now. Yeah Like when will they lose that Chris pop me and it didn't even mean to be a poppable comment, but I think it was bitch off. Yeah, the dumb dumb ass comment Yeah Probably was yeah, I'm sure he echoed that because that that narrative was out there for in the build up to their Live show at AMC TNA we're coming for a w's number two. There was a lot of fed head old old geezer fucks with podcasts spouting that shit What's funny is like not once was I ever like Hell no, uh, maybe they could dude. They don't have the infrastructure. They don't have the money They don't have the Talent I mean, I love a lot. There's a lot of wrestlers on TNA's roster that I would love

48:13To be a part of all elite wrestling, but For my money all elite wrestling has bar none the best roster sure. It's not even close Yep, but the show itself. I mean We had several I think we had five matches on the buy-in The big I think The big match out of the buy we did get Harley Cameron teaming up with stat lander. Yep Uh, they beat sisters of sin Made a couple fun matches. I think the big match prior to the trio's roulette match kicking off was Persephone Taking the title off of my world and Brit Baker returning. Yeah killer Cool to have her back. I do scratch my head a little bit about Like what are we doing with Brett there's a little bit of that with me. Yeah Yeah, I mean, she's got she's got a big legacy and she's essentially coming back to be

49:18Right now it seems like and I know we're gonna get somewhere and I know she's going to get in the ring and yeah Probably tie up with Persephone a little bit do some matches like that, but it does seem like It's It's one thing if she was gone for four or five months and your cut. This is the way you bring her back But she's been gone for two fucking years and you bring her back on the buy-in Under a hood, which was cool. I love that. Yeah And now and I love Persephone But it's weird. I'm not all in on it yet. Yeah, I don't know how they're gonna do it, but it's weird I think maybe it was The only thing I can think is that maybe they um They could be building to a match between the two of them Yeah, if she turns on Persephone, I think if you wanted to flip Persephone baby face. I mean I'm not out on it. I'm glad she's back. We've been calling calling for it forever It just for me I'm glad to have her back and for me like One of the big things is to just shut up the people that says she's going to WWE. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she's on her way

50:24It's like is she though and we don't know what the fuck's going on as far as She looks good, but we don't know What level of Being back on TV with matches. We don't know what she wants to do right? Maybe she didn't want to come back into a bigger spot Yep You never know man I mean she has been gone a long time. It's hard to be gone be on the shelf for over two years And to come in say she came in at the end of The title match and she's a baby fake because a lot of people were saying Her people saying you bring her back as a heels and now you got rebel heart coming up And she's gonna be a heel And everybody's been missing her so it makes sense to bring her back as a baby face I kind of push back against that Brits best work in this company is a heel for sure I like that they had the balls to bring her back as a heel

51:26I don't want to see her come back in a gimmick that was never her strong suit. She's always been a better bitch Yep, she's better at being a bitch Remember when this company fucking started They tried to she was supposed to be the baby face to carry the company She was the first woman they ever signed didn't work didn't work And then she came out and cut a bitch promo And it was off to the races she and turned into one of the The best heels that they had yeah We got A's in the chat. What's up? Raised the jolly Roger and an honorary union jack for the billy goat Brits a heel going into the rebel show weird choice just said the same thing The announcer all thought it was she to two I Said were you there when she came out me and Hawk you hadn't got there yet When she came into the ring

52:27I was like that looks like Brit Baker yeah just body type because I've been seeing all of her beach shot She's ripped ripped and rail thin. I mean she's very very thin I was like that looks like Brit yep And Hawk was like you think you're going to bring her back on the buy-in and then boom as soon as she got the The lockjaw and I'm like okay. Yeah crowd knew two man crowd was hot when she hit that lockjaw. No, I'm happy. She's back I'm just kind of scratching my head just a little bit of this Persevering thing, but there is an element of she is one of the OGs if her For the old school sickos if her name value gets People to warm up a little more to Persephone. I'm all for it. Yeah I don't need that warming up because right now Persephone is one of my girls. Maybe she needs the warm up though Maybe it's for her to get it's true to it's true too, but also it's not gonna take a lot

53:29To interject her in any major storyline at any time. Yeah, she it's not gonna be hard. Has she didn't she cut a couple promos She cut one up Was it at all in and then maybe on dynamite? Yeah And she's calling Persephone Percy. I love that. Yep. That's cool Persephone is fucking legit. I've been calling if if you're in the pix league I've been calling her to win a title for a minute. Yeah got DJ Rowan here. What's up? You think we can get a slow burn of Osprey being a leader of the death riders I don't know man I'd have to hear that one later. Yeah, I'd have to hear that laid out how long we're going with that So that was a big one then we end and I called this shit I think I called it last week How they would do the roulette trios roulette match

54:32Because they started on the buy-in right and literally take it right up to the final team Did swerve come out? No, no, I don't think anybody nobody came out. Yeah buy an ends Which is a little awkward because I think the timing was off because they were just kind of standing on a timing was way off But I heard a lot of podcasters bitch about the timing was off and they should have done dude We're just waiting for the moment if that's what it takes it's It's what everybody knows what we're waiting for it. It should everybody. Yeah It should not have happened on the buy-in because here I'm glad they did that because When this shit lives on my AEW You know when it's living on a streaming site or it's living on a physical media copy of this event years and years from now No one's going to remember the buy-in. Yeah, no, he gives a shit with the Costco guys did you're gonna remember

55:33This show opened with them debuting right Yeah, so New level debuts to first can we just How crazy is it that the Costco guys got a match at Wimbley Stadium? Dude There's they're like they're buying staples now. Yeah It's just Until the old man like blow Blows a quad a la vents at the rumble. They're gonna be there. This guy hasn't torn something yet man It's it's common dude. Yeah, it's coming. He's gonna get a little bit more comfortable in there It's gonna tear something so We had booked The new level well at the time the new day Being involved in the tag situation And then then we seen the writing on the wall. I think everybody did obviously that they were gonna join this trio's roulette thing

56:36Now that it's all said and done. Do you think it was the right move? I mean, I didn't hate it I like it now that I see where they're going With The match that we have primed up for all out Yeah, we're back on track to where we thought we were going to go FTR bucks Cajon Christian or or copen cage In a ladder match. Yeah, so we're back to that which we thought at one point that's where we were heading I thought that match was gonna be at all end They kind of pushed it back and I think it's good because it gives all out a huge fucking marquee match. Yeah and Now the trio I mean say what you want and I know we're not even a week into this shit But we got a killer fucking we're gonna get those trios titles defended. Yeah, we got the rascals in a match on TV that's what you do there a great trio you put them in a match

57:39They have that new kind of innovative style that a w has. It's a great young team. Yeah, but they're also they got a little bit of veteran to him with the T&A run To throw them in there with swerve a new level Now it and I think there's going to be a hardcore emphasis on tag division and trios division moving forward because I think Tony knows I just signed these two dudes We have to really put a lot of emphasis on on at least the tag division because that's where we're heading Uh I think it's exciting because right now Both divisions feel like there's something important going on. Yeah, I I'm cautiously optimistic about this That's that's cautiously optimistic is the word that I'll use I just I like I like them having the trios title. I like the match that we had on there. They had to win. They had to win it. Yeah

58:44and I like them as a trios What I don't want to see though is them have the trios and them also interjecting themselves into the tag team Seeing as well. Don't want that Do you think before they get involved in the tag division they should drop those trios titles 100% Here's where it gets tricky Because I think we are I would say in the in the near future within I'd say within four to four or five months I'm sure there is a destination of the elite versus New level and Swarth right Where that gets tricky is the bucks are now tied up in this tag. So if the bucks get those tag titles And we now get our tag team champions feuding with the trios champions with a Kinne omega involved

59:48I Don't like champion versus champion. I think there's a worry It's just tricky because you've got two teams that we know we're wanting that dream match yeah So It's tricky man because I do like them holding those trios belts because the If they're holding them those belts are going to be featured and we've bitched about those belts forever Which is fine. It's fine. I hope That they keep them for a while and make them prestigious and give them something I hope they let this feud with the bucks that eventually gonna happen I hope they let that breathe a little bit. Let it simmer. Do we don't have to have it all right now? No, let it simmer there here. Yep. The bucks are here. Yep. Let them do their thing and then bring them together We're gonna get it dude For the love of God give them these trios titles give the bucks the titles and immediately put New level and bucks in a program to get for the tag titles

1:00:48That's the same fucking bullshit cycle we always go through with the trios titles. What I'm hoping for If we're gonna get the elite versus new level and swerve Time table wise World's end. Yeah Maybe full gear Yeah, like Because we I mean they they did it on all in we're still talking all in At the end and I loved this Because we get new level at the beginning of the show and then after Cajun coped defend their titles against the bucks, which I thought was great that they did that That was my pick. Yeah Then they have all the fucking teams FTR comes down motor city machine guns come down and then the new level come down And you've got cage coped bucks motor city FTR and all surrounding coped engage like that. Yeah, and that's like a picture of where we go

1:01:54That and and all the iterations of that. Yeah, because right now we're we're FTR bucks and cage and coped going into all out But motor city machine guns are gonna play into this for sure. Yeah. Yeah, we got we got asylum in the chat Boys whose house Cox house fuck the fed fuck the fed fuck the fed Love it. Yep A says I watched the replay in the open with the high shot high spot of all Of the team high shot of all the teams in the ring with ex caliber saying it's Sunday You know what that means I've gone to bed watching the replay three nights now DJ raw would not surprise me if we get the tag match as a main event Oh for sure I can see that. The silo says man Interchecked with a few antidotes on the pre show big boom was extremely cool dude came around everyone to get a picture held up the bus with the demand Orange and andrade on it just to get to the people nice Yeah, dude, the asylum was there. I know. Yeah, he was in house. I'm super jealous

1:02:57Silo says Gabe kid is a legend got the gans outside Hotel going swerve was chill as fuck Jay White just walked to the stadium from hotel Shabbata too and tecla That's awesome. Oh, yeah, he says cofee made it Sound like we won't get a singles run out of either of them during this run But who knows what the future holds kind of want cofee the main event at some point in my loan I'll have that thought today. I don't want to see that yeah I mean maybe like Way don't I mean maybe I would almost I don't know man Art is tag this main event seems to fucking crowded. I want to see him do his thing with Kristen I want to see them do that main event seems to crowded and I just think They're way more valuable together. They are and uh It's I don't want AW to get in the mistake of always writing the wrongs of what the Fed fucked up

1:03:59I don't want Tony Khan to always be like all They they gave cofee a shitty world title reign so I'm gonna give him a better I don't think that's a good way to book yeah if you're booking just to write the wrongs of the fed I'm not into that. Yeah, not at all man So Love the tag scene right now. I think It's hot Brawling birds one They picked up the tag titles we called that Moxley defeated Nigel thought that was the right move Would you think Snead For Nigel to yeah 100% because we talked about it dude the moment the moment was getting the match That's the moment Being here Him beating Moxley it was a bridge too far for me. Yeah It would have been a It would have been a problem. This is fucking John Moxley dude. Yeah, you're coming in on a bumleg And you gave the Brawling birds the moment you gave osprey not everybody from the UK can get that moment

1:05:04But he did get the moment the moment was the match he got the woman by being in Wembley. Yeah In a match against Mox. I thought he should have retired. I thought he was going to Not that I want to see him hanging up. I just thought it was like when What other time are you going to have a moment like that? Yeah Wembley Mox and they've got history from where they trained. I didn't realize that There was a lot of things Kind of Aligning in a poetic way. I They teased it. Yeah, when he's sitting there. I thought he was going to take his boots off Here it comes. Yeah, thought of what's happening Three way for the international championship. O'Cotta Fletcher and T'Kesta O'Cotta gets his belt back from Fletcher Would you think of the match? I thought it was that thought it was great man. I love that O'Cotta has it now I want a Fletcher to retain but see we're this is

1:06:07I think a low-key really entertaining story to me has just been The soap opera that is the callous it is and I had also picked Fletcher to win I thought it was the right move to have him win and have O'Cotta leave Yeah But now that O'Cotta has it and watching it play out Between the two of them. Yeah, with now Kevin Knight. Yeah, watching that play out. I don't know man It's more I think that's more entertaining than if O'Cotta had Lost and left. I mean the whole story of callous family has been Disension everybody bitches about who just throw him in the callous family, you know all the haters say that Like dude the callous family is a story in and of itself. Yeah, all you think is you can tell stories within the family They are yeah, you know, they're telling stories within the family. I'm digging it. I love it man because It's it's not a fan it's not your traditional wrestling

1:07:11Faction no like these guys are all coming in there's so many of them and there's big egos and they're kind of cl- some clash with others and to see them clashing with each other And Don callous it's hilarious to me to watch Don callous go oh Now he's trying to juggle all these big personalities So we had the casino gauntlet match And Roddy ends up winning he pin Nick Wayne Didn't get as many surprises as I thought they would yeah, I think out here that they pull out a couple I like the match though. I love this match. Yeah, I love it It just the vibe of it was I liked how some people got their entrance and some people just showed up like Nick Wayne showed up with a I think a cutter I don't know where yeah And then you have Justin Roberts just hit the Nick Wayne the fourth entry or whatever entry was rare fuck up by Justin Roberts on that one

1:08:13He botched and commander, but he pulled it together though He was a total fucking pro because he botched it because Mystica was kind of a surprise intro And he got it to fucking gather and he was like you guessed it Mystic yeah, so I thought he recovered nicely. Yeah Darby regaining The TNT championship in a false count anywhere match he defeated Kevin Knight Fucking cool match Stephen Borden comes out staying comes out the moment on the ladder where staying climbing everyone's like is he gonna do this Yeah crossbody And he Passed the torch and then Stephen Borden Hits the crossbody What do you think of Stephen Borden Being involved in Darby's story now it makes sense dude. I love it. It makes sense people are

1:09:15People are waiting for this kid to fuck up. Yeah, bitch off. This off one of them I don't understand like this is Yeah, he got the bug he trained with Darby he stings kid. It's a natural fit I think they're gonna be smart with him. They're not gonna throw this kid in the deep end I'm sure it'll get to a point where him and Darby are tagging together. Yeah, they'll let him get his feet under him and Little by little give him more and more and more Sting coming out was epic I Love the thing and pulsing out now and keep him retired, but he's still in the Darby story. Yeah, still at any point can come out Well, do you think at a at some point Does Stephen Borden Are they gonna keep his name just Stephen Borden does he have to take on a different person like some sort of

1:10:16Nickname or something one and two do we ever get Face paint I Think we'll get rare occasions with with face paint, but I don't think it'll become his character I think they keep it Stephen Borden though. I'm cool with that. Yeah, I think As he gets better As the story progresses and he injects himself I think there's a really fucking cool moment you could have in one of those Darby produced vignette packages You know when Darby produces his own packages His dad is sting His Trainer slash on air protege is Darby both of those guys rock face paint A Scene where like It's almost like an Italian mobster getting made yeah like some sort of thing where

1:11:23Whether it's a big match and you see Sting with Darby and not copy the sting face paint don't copy that have his own thing. Yeah, for sure But I think it would be cool Yeah, if you're working within that world that could be like a You're donning You're donning the mask now or not the mask, but you know, you're going under the paint Yeah, if they did this thing where he it could be like he earned it like not make it like I'm just started on for a match like make it Yeah, almost like a true passing of the torch like I'm passing my legacy on to you. Yeah, I think it could be really fucking cool They're popping me in the chat though What's going on? Silen says just call him Steve He says it's Steve Oh man That's great Silen says Darby and him are gonna tag what Darby says yeah, that's definitely coming

1:12:26D. J. Rol says maybe kind of close to surfers thing but with a twist Yeah, just I mean he's got to be his own man I'm not saying like totally rip off your dad's gimmick. I nobody wants that But in story it could be cool. Yep, it could be cool for him to have that especially with sting still being around yeah I I'd be down for it Then we have Mercedes defeating Willow thank god thank god Now we have somebody who actually has gravitas to being a fucking champion now the But Good lord man. I mean the match was great. I thought they killed it like I know I'll never I think Willow has the in ring to put on great matches I just don't think she has The bravado and the charisma To To be the face of your division right now. I don't think she's ready for it. I think they pushed her too fast to be in that yeah

1:13:27It's just my opinion. Yep I'm just reading I guess flayer. I don't know what flayer's been killing it with some comments lately. Oh, yeah He's kind of gone off the deep in about robes and shit But what's he talking about but this one he just said I just saw he said please don't put me in the same category He's Eric Bischoff a thoroughly enjoyed the match I know both Kenny and Will and have sung their praises to them personally. I have nothing but respect for him When I tweeted this yesterday, it's just an opinion like every other sport and watching Get up or first take on ESPN doesn't mean it's right doesn't mean it's wrong It's just an opinion Eric should just focus on his new amateur wrestling podcast or amateur wrestling project The same applies to Jim Ross in his comments if you mention my name of course. I'm gonna respond Fow flayer Yep well Here's a

1:14:32Here's a tweet from Bob Holly. Oh, yeah But this is this is an older one. He hasn't tweeted lately unfortunately But couple about a week ago he said most of today's talent Our performers not pro wrestlers people like Bundy rude hinnig sherry luna Jackie never cried buckets of tears on vents of shoulder nor would Vince respect someone like that. Oh, yeah Tough as nails dude back when people were tough as a sparky plug Will Osprey Kenny Omega what can we say? I mean That hasn't been said Match went 34 minutes It's a top five a w match all time in my opinion. Yeah, I mean It's the entrance for will osprey

1:15:36I think it's the best entrance we've seen in a w. Oh, I mean What what's been better with his mom narrating yeah the video and then him coming in Bobo Riley from the who Passing all of these ghosts of his past Box handing him the union jack on the way out. Yeah, and then his music fucking rock and come on Goose bumps then Omega's entrance was equally just as badass. I mean he felt like This is the in balls yep. This is the big guy They made it feel like he was Larger than I mean way larger than life it had a lot of Weight and grandeur to it that I think we have been critical of sometimes Kenny doesn't feel as big as he does in New Japan sometimes on their presentation of him

1:16:36This felt like best bout machine in balls He's the fucking man And the match just over delivered. I thought it will I love that he was just beating will down Will had to fight his way back the the finale of Him kicking out at one yeah twice I think killer the tiger driver on will kicks out of the fucking one wing angel Incredible. Yeah It's it big match big fight feel It felt felt very important like we're witnessing history right now it had the feeling of what Old school well built mania main events felt yep like when you had Hogan And warrior or Austin and rock like it had that what's crazy is that they did this with

1:17:37The build that they had yeah, it wasn't a long no, it wasn't I mean it was built off all the history and legacy of these guys yeah And will trying to climb to the top of the mountain and they didn't have a lot of time with these specific dudes mjf was in the picture Not too long ago month and a half ago. Yeah Yeah, so last night on dynamite We opened the show with our champion Cutting a promo Getting you deserve it chance Boy people were hating on him on his promo man really yeah, I've seen a couple people just absolutely Trash him on his in-ring Promos man on his promos overall or his dynamite promo last night well because of his dynamite promo last night they said that he is Traditionally just garbage on the mic those people are and it's absolutely fucking retarded. I've seen

1:18:43I've seen it two or three times today That's a stupid tag he Even in new Japan dude he He's taming himself down in a w He would drop f bombs. I mean he was a great fucking promo in new Japan and I think since he's came to the company I think he's been a great promo in all he wrestling. I think he is I think he is great And all that shit with hangman and all the stuff with kid. I think he's really good. I think he's a good actor Yeah, like when he had those quiet moments with Kenny in the trainers room months ago when they were building Well, he did great at the which we'll talk about it and I think he did great at the end of the episode too. Yeah dude So I mean this is all Great promo to open. I love that they open with the champ give him a mic. It's his moment great weight open the show Then the demand comes out and they're and we get The dogs come out

1:19:44Essentially just setting up a Five on five five on five with the United Empire. Yep will and andrade who has ties to United Empire too so Kind of interesting that they're not going straight into andrade caching this thing. They're gonna slow play that which I think it's good Good. Don't go right into let him hold it. Let him do his thing. I like that. He's friendly with With Osprey. Yep. It's cool. I really did like what Osprey said in the ring about being two and two with Kenny and and how that's fine with him. He only ever wanted to be as equal. Yeah, but if Omega wants to do something Just name the time in place. I love it because he didn't shut the door on it right that did feel like the end But if Kenny sticks around for a couple more years who knows man and the fans want it who knows? It's there to be had but but I like that they're at two and two and he acknowledged it and said that he only ever wanted to be as equal

1:20:45Now he is. Yeah, that's awesome. I really hope they don't go back into that In the next year. I don't want I don't want to see that. I don't think they can. I think let it let him go do their own things for a while I think there's other things for them to do. Yeah. Yeah. Well obviously for Will but I think there's other things for Kenny to do too The match will go ahead and just follow the Osprey line here. Yeah, the match was great The five on five fun. Yeah, we really care. It's exactly what you thought you were gonna get out of a five on five Those guys it was fun But the end of the match with the death riders Coming in yep with mox Mox comes in stands over the title which is laying in the ring And he picks up the world title first before we get into that I I absolutely love

1:21:47It It's so good mox is so fucking good so good dude when he comes down and Gabe kids about to hit him with the chair and mox grabs it and Gabe Just giving it I mean Gabe's good too. Gabe's great. Great. Gabe was great in that moment as well Because mox grabs it and it's just he looked like such a fucking leader right there who did Where he grabs it and and Gabe kids just like oh come on man like this is what we do yeah like this and he's like no And he goes to do it again and mox just steps in front of him. Yeah Yeah, and and and and Gabe just like But he's like the fucking alphas in the room Yeah, I mean put your fucking head down the alphas in the room and he's just pissed because there's nothing he can do exactly Mox is such a fucking leader exactly. It's the top dog in the yard It's when all the other dogs see the big fucking pit bull come walking in that's not loud. That's not

1:22:49Chompin on his chain. He's just quiet walks in all the other dogs kind of Yeah, you know, but other had a little bit literally the dog. Yeah, I mean it just that moment just Even more so than what I've thought before it just made me feel like mox is the leader that That he is and can people start shutting the fuck up about death rotters need to go away. They're played out there. It ain't It ain't played out dude It every time they always find ways to Keep them super fucking relevant Yeah, you know like this is all coming this goes back to black bull fucking combat club dude Before we were even in the death rotters scene man and now like deathurs have that year rain Pretty much with the belt in the briefcase. I mean all of that like

1:23:52When Mox hangs it up and he's just a guy in the back with Creative working creative with Tony and he's no longer an in-ring performer years from now hopefully yeah And it's all said and done in the book in the story book is Closed on his in-ring career This is a huge story yep, and if you're tracking this every week It's very compelling like to watch it go from regal and black bull comic club and Daniel sent the bag on the head Getting the belt putting it in the briefcase hang man The whole ride man Taking will under his wing all of that shit Even to the end of this match and what happened So he comes in Picks the world title up drapes it over Osprey shoulder stares him down They're just kind of staring each other down. We all know Without anything being said I think everybody watching had the feeling like This is what's next for Osprey and then all of a sudden genius move from Tony

1:24:55It was it was on it. It was on all of our minds They cut to a wide shot with the contron in the background Graphic pops up graphic pops up mox Osprey at all in And they both Seem The shocks well the way to it well the way it seemed to me is that mox was shocked Mox was surprised. I don't think he New it was gonna happen. No, I don't think Osprey knew it was gonna happen either But I'd like that he played it as kind of like guarded Yeah, who Osprey? Osprey played it as like it's almost like This is a challenge. I knew I was going to have to get through yeah, he was more accepting of it where mox was like It's almost like The dog chasing the car yeah, and you caught the car. Yep. Now what you go to there was a little bit of like Fuck now. I have to do this. He had to recalibrate like he he gave

1:26:00Osprey a lot of fucking respect in his reaction Yep, you know what I mean? Yeah, like he's trained this guy. He was the guy who was finding A way to give Will his edge back after this injury And he's built him up and he's kind of been like the alpha in the relationship But in that moment the way he reacted to that graphic coming up on the contron It really felt like to me that mox was giving him like oh shit No, this is good. This isn't going to be a walk in the park. Yeah, I can't wait to hear the promos that they have Fuck dude in the next couple of weeks man cannot Cannot wait Man mox is I love that they're going straight to this because stories there. Yeah, story is there. Yep Chris is in the chat. He says do you think After mox loses to Osprey at all out the death rotters finally turn on mox and Gabe kids slides into that role mox

1:27:04And Osprey could start their own united empire like he alluded I'm I think They're going to have to give me a lot more for me to ever fantasy book a death rotters break up again. Yeah Yeah, I just I don't know if that you have to do something major For me to buy that Like they really did tease it when mox was going through those losses They teased it But they've kind of went away from that and every time they tease it's like they You know, they they faced each other in the continental cup. They've done all of these things. It's like right now They feel they feel like such an unbreakable group because They all get it that yeah, sometimes we're going to have to fight each other, but it's not It's not about that right, you know, it's about the competition. It's about the fight

1:28:05So they're going to have to go above and beyond in the storytelling for me to buy and I really hope Like if mox loses which he's going to to Osprey at all out I would hate to see death riders like come into the ring after that and beat him up Just wouldn't feel earned You got to It seems quick quick Seems too quick to do that like if we're heading in that direction you got to tell me a longer story to break this group up They've been around it. They've been around too much and it can't Just be you lost a match. We're going to turn on you. There's got to be more For me it seems hot shot at if that happens I don't know Swarve a new level take on rascals. This is new levels debut on dynamite this match fucking ripped So good man

1:29:06so good And I was pretty impressed with new level. Yeah, we know they're great wrestlers, but they've they've been a dog on a chain Yep over there To see them be able to kind of break free and do a different style and and no No Ceiling they can go in and just have a good match. Yeah, no rules of like you can't do this move And you can't do this too many time. You know like they could just let it all hang out. Yep It really felt like that's what They felt free. Yeah Yep And there was an excitement in them Yeah, there's something about wrestlers with a little bit of a name coming over I felt it with champa Where every time champa's out there he feels rejuvenated. Yeah, and I felt the energy there and their entrance They've got that asap Ferg song the new level. Yeah, it's just

1:30:08It's a great package. I think the fans are really This has to be said to You got A team that for Years and years and years has been Called the new day And they're coming over to a company. You know a lot of fans are going to follow them A lot of a WSicos know no their history. They come in You're going to have to rebrand them One of the smoothest transitions for a name like You heard no new day chance you heard no new day rocks It's like the fans just naturally instantly Went right with the gimmick with no pushback and and the chant works instead of new day rocks. It's new level It's a perfect transition Yeah, I think

1:31:10I think the fan base which we talked about the shift that's happening right now Honestly, think that the fan base just wants to forget what they were doing over there. Yep I don't think they want to bring that back. I think the the AW fan base doesn't want to even acknowledge that I think there's such a separation between the two that I don't think they I don't think They don't want To think new day. Well, it's it's like we want you to feel like you're all Yeah, so we're not going to bombard you with what chance. Yeah, it's the equivalent of a watch and yeah We're not going to do that to you. We're not going to do the new day chant. We're going to You are ours now We're making we're going to chant your name now. It's a sign of respect. Yeah, honestly Yep, because it's very easy to because they I mean that's what they're known as yeah, that's their big claim the fan They're claim the fame well, I've watched it. I've watched the aerial interview with

1:32:12Kofi and yeah, Creed and There was a couple times where Kofi called Austin Woods. Yeah, and he's like, uh, he called him that on the scrum. He's like it's hard It's a hard habit man. I've been calling him that for years and years. Yeah, but I love it man. I love that they're here It's a completely fresh Start for him. It's pop me when he called him that on the Yeah, it's where it's worth face. Yeah So they get to win And as they're walking up the ramp Young bucks music hits yep bucks come out And we get a little jaw jacking between the two. It wasn't mic'd up. They were just kind of jaw jacking to each other It looked like the bucks were given in props. Yeah a little bit you could tell there was There was a little bit of like this At some point. Yeah. Yeah Love that which we knew and we know it's coming. I love that they're getting that tease in yep and then

1:33:18bucks come down they With a request Cajun coped to come down to the ring right And instead of Cajun copes music hitting FTR's music hits This Segment was awesome to me. Yeah, I love the way the bucks were like we're talking about the way the match ended You know, they were like do um Did they have to do it that way the cheating yeah, yeah, which what you think of that we haven't really talked about that I like the co-p kind of like He Asked for the belt shot okay to he okay to he gave the little yeah, let's do it. He wanted to get the win And when they first came out at the top Last night on dynamite

1:34:24Cop had a little bit of a I was getting a little bit of rated our superstar Yeah So there's it's almost like he's He's still playing that like I'm not a heel like my best friend is my tag team partner is But it's almost like he's coming to this realization that see in the way I'm seeing the way and if we have to do bad things to retain these titles we will sometimes you do and I fucking love that That gives just more wrinkles to this team Yeah, I like that I want him to have more of uh I didn't my I want to say it What I want him to have I was almost not no pun intended. I don't I want him to have more of an edge yeah Yeah, I didn't I was trying to find another word quickly, but that's the word that popped in my mouth. Yeah, but that's what it is So They drop a bombshell

1:35:26These three teams Will be in a three-way ladder match. What did did they call it just a ladder match or what did they actually call it? Uh They said he said Well the way that Cop said it he said let's have a match and Maybe they'll be chairs involved Maybe they'll be tables involved And there's damn sure gonna be ladders involved I mean So a little Uh What would that be uh Lo Ctl see a little ctl match will ctl match Because I think did the graphics say it just said ladder match right so yeah See ctl little ctl match I'm so down for this match. I just hope

1:36:27They all fucking come out healthy Cuz man I want to see him push it though and I think they are gonna push it Mainly coping cage. I don't want all of these dream scenarios coming up Yeah To get Focked about one of these teams getting hurt But I mean that's the nature of the business. They're gonna go balls out. It's gonna be a great match I really liked Christian's comment which has got a lot of all the 50% comment I'm surprised you're not so embarrassed that you wouldn't consider willingly taking a 50% pay cut That's The whole quote is I'm surprised that the four of you aren't more embarrassed I'm surprised that you're not so embarrassed that you wouldn't consider willingly taking a 50% pay cut and going somewhere else I saw some

1:37:29influencer On IG Talking about it. He popped for it and Then he followed it up by saying WWE doesn't really uh Make comments about AEW and like What what yeah, they do all the fucking time they inject shit come on man and hold even if they don't make comments Even if they don't even if just let's just say they didn't make comments They're running shows against AEW constantly. Yeah, it's the same fucking. Yeah, it's the same thing Cloak and dagger clandestine tactics come on man. Like don't give me that bullshit. It's don't give me yeah That it's so off base This is war We're in a cold war between these two companies. Yep. It's not and AEW has been pretty good about not Flitting the airwaves with taking shots. They won't at all

1:38:30But this was in the mouth of Christian cage This popped the shit out of me. Yeah, 50% because all the fans are talking about it It's not it the fact that you you're you're winning it your 13 time WWE tag team champions the most winning tag team was asked to take a 50 plus percent cut a year after signing and and they just came here so it's like yeah, we're gonna drop that little dig. Yeah There's people watching this perfect. Let's Let's get them. Yeah, yeah, let's get them fucking Killa asylum said the best bit is Christian repeatedly says he never scripts his promos. He just says what he feels when he's out there That's awesome boom So great it was a great line. Yeah I'm stoked for this match Darby defended against dunk zilla Man

1:39:31Hard hitting dunk zilla's just one of my dudes right now. Yeah, I think he's the best Hoss in the company. He is the horse of the company I don't know I don't know if there's any horse that's like him in the company man When he was in that match at all in and he was just dulling out pal drivers left and it was awesome This dude is just his wild man face is one of the best in the Throwback. Yeah, it's he's such a throwback character but with new school Yeah wrestling skills If they had him in the fed No, you're you need to work like a big man. You need to stop down move you need to slow it down Yeah, no dude. We love him because of his moves that if you're a big man and you can do that Fuck and do it do it. Yeah, that's That's what you're supposed to do. I'm just such a fan of his journey. Yeah, it's wild the

1:40:35Like Aussie open story should be studied of how to handle a team When they when they injuries and separation. Yeah, it's Yep, so happy for mark davis that he's found this character because I was worried about and honestly he He didn't have this character When he first came back from injury. Yeah, I was like man as he go get lost and then he just started coming alive right And now he is where he's at right now and I couldn't be more happy honestly. Do you think Darby is I think Darby's gonna be probably Defending this title every week until he drops it. Oh, yeah, that's just Darby though. Yeah He is a fighting champion if they're he's the definition of a fighting champion So he gets the win. We're punky vice hit the ring. They're beating Darby up Steve Borden Comes in makes the save punches both guys hit some clean Stinger-esque drop kicks man. Yeah

1:41:37Kids got the drop kick down got it like his old man Steve squares up to face mark davis all of a sudden Guess who's back Josh Alexander attacks Steve Borden from behind he suited and booted walking weapon looks good good to have him back man. I forgot We got so many people in this fucking roster wealth of riches then he recently show up at maple leaf Yeah, yeah, I think he's the champion there still oh is he unless yeah, I'm gonna say he's the champion there We get Alex Windsor and Megan Bain in a singles match coming off of all in I don't mind this because Typically, it's like man, let him have a tag match. I didn't mind this because it's they're coming out of the tag match And it's a good way to keep them together But without throwing them back in a tag tag team match. I thought it was a good match The match was good Megan Bain wins. Yeah, which was interesting. Is it gonna get them a rematch?

1:42:39at all out maybe I don't know Gotta do something dude. I I'm just tired of these two who Brawling birds and all the bandaminy and we need Something different dude. I think they're heating up Harley and stat What which fucking turn the heat up then I mean, I kind of don't mind stat going into the tag division because she's She's done a lot with the TBS division TBS title and in the world titles. So it's a way to freshen her up but I really wanted Megan Bain or not Megan Bain Harley I Like to the Harley and a J combo and they started with it initially and they went away from it and I don't understand man, but I I was a little The match was fine, but I'm just

1:43:42We had they had the match at all Yeah, we need to Why are we going back in a single one between them like sisters of sin have them attack brawling birds give them a new feud Gotta do something we these aren't the only two we can't do this for ever. Yeah Can't do it forever What do you think of Jericho and Nick Wayne's little backstage segment? I thought it was good I love that this is this little feuds getting set up. Yeah It's it's a perfect little feud for that perfect feud Nick Wayne Get that Legend under your belt before you know while he's still there I hope they just keep pushing Nick Wayne man. I think he's ready. Yep. He is ready He's so good man We get Monet World Championship celebration Would you think of this segment? I liked it So it looks like tecla came out in the crowd talking shit

1:44:44and The whole dumb bitch bit that she had yeah, and it's her thing and the fans love it I think they're leaning in they're not changing her they're She still feels like tecla But the fan the positive fan response of just her kind of off the wall promos. I think that She's gonna be in the baby face role. Yeah, I think so for sure. Yeah So we got to talk about you sent a thing on in the group about So this Bailey situation right So it came out today PW insider saying Bailey is gonna is most likely what's the exact thing they said it The J bug sent it to us it says Bailey is expected to be remaining with WWE it was said There have been creative pitches for Bailey for the raw brand and she is expected back on the road very soon

1:45:50likely within the next few weeks. Okay, so Her having pitches her being back on the road How does that equate to her remaining with the company when the expectation I think most fans have assumed is that she I don't think anyone knows her contract situation, but I was under the impression that she was at least signed through the end of the year That's what I've heard so For someone in such good standing I I'm not shocked that they would put her as to work. I mean you got her your painter I mean, I know sometimes sometimes they'll table talent if they know if they know she's leaving But I don't think anyone knows what she's going to do. I don't think yeah, I think this is still a negotiation Phase and just because she hasn't raised on knows what she's gonna do So the reason we bring this up here is because Mercedes had a There was a little Easter egg in there align. Do you think this was purposefully

1:46:54Well go ahead and talk about and we'll talk about if if it was purposefully said well Yes, I think it was purposefully said So I guess Bailey had a tweet that said when's her tweet from Bailey's that I don't know I don't know the screenshot I saw that I think you posted on Facebook I think the tweet from Bailey was from June earlier in the summer. Yeah, and then But I think she also maybe reposted the the quote I think she Bailey I think Bailey they've repost like posted it again. Okay and then And the quote was it won't come up You're on I can't find it on she says um What I what she wants for the what she wants doesn't even exist yet that was Bailey's tweet yeah

1:48:00And then Mercedes says What I want for this division doesn't even exist yet Because Mercedes responded to Bailey's tweet and said I felt that Her original tweet what Bailey said when Bailey tweeted that what I want doesn't even exist yet Mercedes replied and said I felt that I felt that and then in the promo last night she said Bailey's tweet She said what Bailey said in the tweet so And she said something else with that didn't she she said After that Whoever posted that that you reshared I guess I got taken down Oh, is it not there anymore your post is but whatever they Whoever shared that I can't see yeah, but

1:49:04So She said something about the women's I don't know there was there was something else added to it In her promo last night she said that and then she said something else too now that she holds a title it will Monet raised a glass to toast herself Okay So she said now that I have the title it will Was this a per and they had a sweet chin music thing it was like a It was like an after party I think after all in did you see this Mm-hmm I don't know what it was but it was like an after party Leo rush was there Mercedes was with the DJ And there was like a party and she played Bailey's old school music the hugger music really she played that at the party Everybody's dancing and shit So was her saying that line was it just a Coincidence or was she did Mercedes put that line in their purpose?

1:50:10I mean that was purpose. It was pretty on the fucking nose It was word for words. It's pretty on the nose dude. Is she leaning more Is it just a tease for her friend like kind of lowering her over like these little teases or does Mercedes Have inside information and she starting to she has inside information. There's they've had Friend to friend best friend the best friend conversations. They know what the phrase is this a tease because she said now that I'm the champion Does that mean does Mercedes hold this title Until Bailey comes into this company and challenges her I can see it I can see it happening Does Mercedes hold this title and then January of 2027 Bailey comes out and challenges her for all man

1:51:15I wouldn't be shocked. I wouldn't be shocked. I would not be shocked man. I'm not buying this Pw I insider She's signing Yeah, the sign that's in here confirming it She said at sweet chin disco who do we want to see an AW and played Bailey's theme Bailey's very close with Mercedes. You know who else she's close with Fucking FTR. Yeah, she's close with Kofi and Austin. Yeah, Kope yep You think she's sitting at home watching the new level come out and being like man that'd be fun or she's just gonna go and just be run of the mill Bailey and WWE She's coming to AW man. She is dude. I don't give a fuck what these dirt sheets are saying Chris says then making plans for her in WWE is probably just their way of trying to entice her to stay

1:52:18Yeah, it's exactly the same thing. He did with fucking mocks giving him the the shield reunion thing how should it's the same thing with it with the revival when they put the fucking tag titles on the revival They do this shit. Yeah, they try to like But when your minds made up It doesn't matter. Your mind's made up and I think Bailey's mind's made up. That's where I'm at I do too If I had to make a money bet right now I would I would bet she's in AW. Oh, I Yes, there's 200 teasing going on dude. Yeah It just makes more sense for her to be an AW Yeah, because I'm an AW homer and I want to see her there. That's true also. Oh 100% true, but Objectively for her career. It's better. Yeah Yeah, it is if her if she wants to wrestle and be At the top of the card and be a hot commodity

1:53:19100% It's better if she comes here. She's gonna be a big deal. She's gonna be main of not main of ending But she's gonna be going after the women's world title. Yeah Her and Mercedes are all tied up fucking hopefully by the Antonio storm comes back into the fold. Yep And we get that shit going on Asylum says I'm 100% Bailey will be an AW by dynasty. That's where I'm at dude Yeah, I That's my girl too. It's like my favorite Favorite wrestler or female wrestler in AW's bail or WWE is Bailey. So I would be hyped Bailey will come over and then the fan will say mox is coming in it At number 30 in Mania Yeah, what's the thing with the Jericho shit? Yeah, all the false all the PW inside her all the shit that would come out and say Jericho

1:54:22You're doing a retirement run in WWE Okay, wait Riding's on the wall in my opinion. Yeah Jericho shit fucking used to wear me out. They got me. I was like Morning the loss of the Lionheart Just didn't want that to happen well Good dynamite and Sometimes they botched these post-paper-view dynamite these post-paper-view dynamite are tough They're tough especially coming off a show that's the magnitude and and all your talents beat up Yeah And we did get MJF we forgot to mention that we had a little backstage backstage. Yeah Where's he go next that's very interesting for me. I don't know He wasn't on dynamite It's very like who's he gonna be Yeah locking up with

1:55:24But I thought they did a good job man to come out of the post all-in fall out Episode of dynamite and to come out of that and already we have two huge marquee matches for our next paper view That's good. Yep. It's a very good thing Super pumped man. You want to get this asshole on the phone? Yeah, I can't What what do you think he says about this? Have you talked to him about having a mic? I haven't talked to him about what do you think he says? Oh, he'll bury it I guarantee it guarantee it Oh Good evening Good evening good evening What's up fellas? How much man what's up? Oh man, it's got a little yoga and little cardio. Oh god good shower

1:56:26Yeah, I mean you go right down the row or you lubed up or something you sound super seductive right now you sound loose Lose no man, I'm just chilling just live in the dream. What's for dinner man? I Think I'm gonna make a couple eggs and I think I'm gonna finish off my baked beans You'd eat her ass And that Little ass. Yeah Nice Toss little salad for dinner. Haven't you'll salad, don't He's having your ass ain't with jelly or syrup. I prefer syrup What's that from Chris Ross? Oh Chris Ross. Oh, it's a bad. It's the stand-up comedy special got you. Yeah What about you fellas? What are you up to? We were talking a little rasslin over here man talking some post all in

1:57:26Nice you're calling pretty early tonight. Yeah, I want to talk about I guess We started early. I got some things after handle Got gotcha So what'd you think of all in just overall thoughts on all in It was fine That was good. I enjoyed it didn't hate it It had high points and at low points That's my thoughts Is incapable of like souring praise I've never heard him say Dude this was fucking awesome. He's never done that. Yeah, ever I think I have no you haven't no you have I he praise on double or nothing 2021 all the time and Chicago's The Chicago event we were five years ago dude No, but I fucking years ago dude Nope, I I definitely praise it when it's good. I liked it. I enjoyed it. It's fine

1:58:32What do you want from me? I was okay high points and low points take it or leave it take it or leave it That's basic. What do you say? High points Last hour to have sucking its car because it was awesome. It was a great fucking event man Yeah, I liked it Let's just get it out of the way what you fucking hate asylum just said in the chat if I had a bat out of hidden That's fucking set it up with crack head I Wresley takes a bring violence. Oh man. I mean I didn't hate anything I can't think of anything that I hated about it. I thought it was a great fucking show dude It was always better shows they put on you said low points. That's what I was just I mean what's the low points I don't know what was it willows interest him. Okay. I mean now you're just fucking bitch in the bitch dude

1:59:38Like it's there But you said it high points and low points or you just are low points are those can you know was the low points They're meaning behind your words or do you just say shit? I just say shit. Okay. There it is Thanks. Thank you after six fucking years dude Six fucking years you say you just say shit to say shit. That's the most honest thing Favorite part. Yeah, main event. Yeah, main event dude main event. What's your least favorite part? Leased favorite Let me think Leased favorite part That's tough Because usually I'll come out and there will be something that I'm hot about But they took the title off a willow loved it. It was a good match. Yeah

2:00:39My least favorite part and I'm not even mad at it But I wanted Fletcher to retain, but I'm not mad that O'Connor got the belt No, I'm not mad about the match was great. I'm not mad at it, but I was hoping Kyle would retain I do fear that they're pushing Fletcher towards a baby face role and I don't think I'm on board for that We'll see So Teter Toddler with the Fallis family should yeah, that's the thing with them man I think they can have this Descension between the family and still keep them all who they are Chris in the chat says the only match that was kind of met to me was the women's tag match Kind of like if the weak link on the main guard we're talking about I would agree with that I'm always gonna agree with that. You having that's always technically the weakest link But you hate women's wrestling so Yeah, it's just not that entertaining your opinion doesn't count Hawkeye's women

2:01:41He's a We don't have to relitigate your feelings on women's athletics Think we all know by now we all know we all know Dynamite though. I thought was great see dynamite was fucking awesome. How about that guys? See but you would have never said that if we didn't rip your ass He's just saying that now to fuck yeah, no, I've really enjoyed it I can't fucking get a handle on this dickhead Like we have this episode two weeks ago with this epic fucking sitdown between Osprey and Omega And he comes on and he fucking buries it and then he comes and I'm not saying like I thought last night show was strong too I thought it was good. It was really really good, but I thought you would come on here and bitch and moan. So I can never predict what you're going to do

2:02:47No, they brought all the type guys on that's all I want from wrestling And I just want them to every week put the top guys on the show sprinkle a little Things in here and there that you're developing and they did that last night They sprinkled it like they gave they put a air fox in there. Okay, I can accept that because you had everybody else big on the show It's the formulas there. That's it If you look at the history of me liking dynamite it's when they use the top guys and they tell the stories with the top guys It's not difficult. It's when they put like three squash matches in an episode where you're like what the fuck are we doing? Why is divine dominion having another squash match shit like that What's your thought? What's your thoughts on osprey mocks for all out It's gonna be great I the two matches that they already have announced for all out. I mean that's gonna be a great favor Yeah already yeah and already honestly more storytelling with the two matches that have been announced

2:03:48Then probably everything leading up to Wimbley and I liked Wimbley, but I thought the storytelling was kind of spotty leading up to it Just kind of throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks where it feels like all it all in is it I can't All outs Uh Where I feel like already because the I mean the mocks osprey shit they've been building for months now But there but that's all built in you know, I mean like the history is what's building that story and the history between FDR box cage and cop is already there So it's kind of ingenious it's ingenious matchmaking Because they've already laid the groundwork for all of that shit Yeah, so that the storytelling for me in this cycle is already better But just the little things like they started off with a real trio's match Okay, good. I'm on board. That's all I ask if you're gonna have the trio's titles have the trios and a fucking trio's match Not rocket science. They did it

2:04:49You know You have the tag champs there. They come out cut a promo not rocket science have the tag team champs Osprey's the champ comes out Cut the promo you meet as boys United empire Champs on TV not rocket science is challenger. It's all Wrestling in a way is sort of paint by numbers. There's a formula to it And if you just stick to it, you're gonna put on a good weekly show Um, and that was and that was hawks Ted talk about how to book wrestling Well somebody Tony Khan needs to hear my Ted talk about how to book wrestling Do he's doing great You always come on here Barry Tony Khan. I think He's he's don't pretty fucking good man Yeah 52 weeks a year dude no offseason no offseason no no time to go to training camp and all this horse shit Uh something I really don't understand though is

2:05:49The Mercedes tecla thing I'm for it. I think it'll be a good feud It just makes the fact that they put the belt on willow for that month make even less sense to me I'm with you. It's like you're like you're going right into the to the tecla Mercedes feud Okay, why didn't you just do that leading up to wimbley? It makes zero sense why you throw the belt on willow I agree In a fucking month when you were just gonna go do the tecla Mercedes thing Yeah, it was completely unnecessary for willow to get Kind of wedged into that I agree completely And I would like to hear Tony's logic behind that Well, I think I heard somewhere that the original plan was for Mercedes to go into all in as champion and willow is going to face her And then who knows dude so much fucking moving parts shit happens in the back, but Well, okay, so you have to pivot though. That's an easy pivot

2:06:49Keep the belt on tecla and have her wrestle at wimbley That's not yeah, I agree Well, yeah, how hard of a pit because people maybe people were speculating like maybe tecla was heard or something But like no obviously not because she's already back and she's already shooting with Mercedes So it's I like that feud. I like that it's happening. It just annoys me Willow just annoys the fucking piss out of me and it annoys me that they put the belt on her for no reason at all when they're just going back to this storyline What's your Because you're not a fed head you don't watch the product You have a watch that product probably since the stone cold Steve Austin days What is your thoughts on this new team the new level that you know you have no idea about their history what's your thoughts on them I mean they seem legit they breathe at their the match was pretty sweet last night

2:07:50So it's a wait and see tight. I don't know their might game. I haven't really heard it yet They're my game cofee cofee's solid yeah, but Austin creeds might game is he's fucking gun on the mic Yeah, so I'll have to withhold judgment until I get there My game I think you'll be reading up on I like to read the results. I'm bleaching report. I like to get their takes and I guess they were saying that uh The new level they're not used to match matches with that frantic of a pace because I guess Wwe Ressels in a bit of a slower pace. No, that's That's a understatement of the fucker. Yeah, so it says it's gonna take some acclimating because the I guess the they thought that the They it's gonna take some conditioning to catch up with the rascals basically Because the rascals just wrestled this frantic pace and new level wasn't ready for it yet. Well, they're I equated it earlier. It's like when you're in wwe

2:08:53You're wrestling with restrictor plates on your rest. It's like a dog on a chain You can only go so far. You can only do so many things Everything is very micro managed Where in a w All that's are on they Tony let's them just do their thing the producers let them do their thing They're not in it to like well, you can't do this here and you They it's a much slower I don't even know how to describe it's just safe and Cookie cutter cookie cutter every match feels the same. There's no like differentiation of style. It's like The style in wwe is wwe style wrestling where in a w you're You know, there might be a luchador British wrestling strong style It's all of these different types of wrestling's coming together. It's very paint by numbers in wwe man Yeah, it's it's very For me, it's very very boring. Yeah, I also read that hey w's not going to be able to call the match

2:10:01Table ladders and chairs match because the copyright issues with wwe Yeah, wwe made the TLC match they branded it. It's their match So I was thinking about that and in fact, I think copes settlement in a different order. He did he did And it makes me just feel like that's what they're gonna do I think they're just gonna change the order. I would love that I think they're just gonna call a ladder match But if they call it a chairs ladder chairs tables. Let a Ctl match. I would pop. Yeah. I hope they do man. I really do I do too So that would be I don't know if he was just saying in a different order for copyright reasons and real time or if that Tony cons planned to call it that who knows but that's kind of insane That you can copyright a tables ladders and chairs match in wrestling because so many matches have those yeah, but they're they're Copywriting the branding of it as that match. Yeah, they it you can obviously have a match with tables ladders and chairs

2:11:06But you can't promote it on like advertisements as a TLC match they own that name And The cool thing about that that match that they own the TLC match Cajun cope Were one of three teams that kind of made that match famous the other two teams was the hardies and the Dudley boys Okay Yeah, so that's kind of a interesting that AW can't use that name, but I was wondering so do they own the rice like Texas death and stuff You know, no, no, I mean Tony uses Texas death I think he's saying this Tony owner. No, I know I'm saying so I think can WWE put on a Texas death match No, they couldn't call it Texas death. I don't know. I don't know what because some of those names are kind of like It's like a cage match. It's pretty synonymous and everybody has cage matches. Yeah

2:12:07Like that's like a bad a royal a bad a royal like can you they couldn't WWE I imagine couldn't come out and have a casino gauntlet royale match right yeah own that and And AW couldn't do a royal rumble. They can't have a hell on a cell. Yeah, and W and AW But and in WWE they couldn't do blood and guts. Yeah Interesting. It's just all how you fucking market matches at the end of the day. It's a fucking cage match It's a latter match. Yeah, it's like what you tell it. I mean you what you call it you can do the shit The funniest one to me is the casket match versus the coffin match Like WWE has the casket match AW has the coffin match That's funny and most of the matches just boiled down to no rules when you get down to it. Yeah with a different Anything goes match pretty much sums up What's going on? Yeah, it's it's no yeah, it's no holds barred false count anywhere cage match latter match. It's

2:13:11I love gimmick bronch's panty matches. Yeah, Hawk don't you're gonna get him excited We need to bring him back to just started laughing as soon as I said it dude I still I still think we need a t-shirt on our pro wrestling tease. It says make bronch panty's matches greeting again I agree red t-shirt white letters Yep And then I guess that would be another one little minor complaint I have It's not major. It kind of it doesn't annoy me For it pickers been off TV for like two years To me, it's a big deal that she's back. I bitched about this too and this and like she's on dynamite Just for a second to basically put over persephone. It's like wait what what's for it bakers role in her return because to me her role is Feuding with Mercedes Monet from feuding with tecla. She's in that category of where she should be now she's like a manager and be a manager for like persephone

2:14:14Like what are we doing here? I'm I'm kind of with you It's I think they could have done more she's been away for two years. You would expect more I expect a little more, but I'm to the point now where I'm just not going to bitch about it. It's like she's back. She's in the mix now. Let's see where it goes We're less than a weekend to it though. Yeah, let it let it breathe Because I'm with you like I I want her role to be big, but I think it will be I think we're just slowly getting her back into the I hate to say that I don't like getting Negative on wrestlers like this Especially for my home team I'm not too I respect what Brit has done to this cup Done for the company. I think she's a big figure in the women's division in this company. I think she's a vital important part of the history of this company but her match

2:15:14Inring has never been my favorite. Yeah, I I don't think she puts on Banger matches I like if I had one I think Tony Storm is more important to this company than Brit Baker. Yeah, I mean of course. That's not even a question But I've just never been a big fan of her matches outside. I mean that thunder rose of lights out match was fucking awesome, but I've never been big on our matches But if we're being real the girl's division is Tony Storm and then everybody else I'd say I'd say Tony and and Mercedes are Are the top for the as far as matches like Mercedes has killer matches I'm just talking about characters within wrestling To me, it's like Tony Storm's gonna leave you around. Oh We're in the rest of the division just falls at her feet. Oh if we're talking about

2:16:16Just straight up character work. I think Most of the dudes fall at Tony Storm's feet. I don't think anybody's doing work like her. She's top of the top man. She owns it man Yeah, I thought it was good. It was fucking awesome man. There we go So we want to get some picks in all right Oh The turnbuckle tavern prison flagship picks league The game is on tonight Reaching for the highest high flagship The flagship All right, so we don't have any matches this week, but first let's just say we've crowned our first champion. Oh yeah our first champion has been crowned

2:17:20Tanner has taken the title. We knew it was coming Congratulations, and we will have a physical title. Yes, at some point. It's coming actually had one Built with a company and It turned out to be a scam. Oh really? Yeah, so That the title you had built was fucking sweet to yeah, well That turned out to be a scam. We'll have one found out about it before I sent him any money. Thank God. That's good Yeah, we'll get one so Where they're gonna ask you to send I think it was 200, I believe two it was two or two 50 And it's this company that claims to make belts, but it Sneed had he sent me the mockup. It had like the tavern logo in the center plate. It was yeah, it was awesome Um, we'll get one, but 215 points for Tanner Congratulations Tanner kicking out pod boys. Yep

2:18:22Taken the title. I mean, he pretty much ran away with it. There was no one even vying for it at all in asylum hold on Asylum just said I gave up now that is not A statement that I want to hear no from anybody in here man never give up never Give up on the picks league Because all time points matter all time points count there is an all time points counter And the points reset Yeah, now we're all equals we're all at zero back at zero. We're back at zero asylum. I believe in you Don't give up man. We're all Jimmy V's gonna be turning in his grave right now You need to pull that drops need put it on the board and play for asylum every week We'll give up don't ever give up. Yeah, we're All we'll keep tracking all time points, but every time we crown a champion the points reset to zero so

2:19:28Tanner will be our champion Yeah, until world's end and world's end after world's end is when we will crown the new champion. So It's a long run. Yeah Star now man, you're everybody's back at equal. There it is I'm coming back for the second session There it is there it is right. That's what I want to hear All right, so I got the will of inner socks. He's a filthy traitor. So Care about him we got let's see We'll do You know, why is it there wasn't a match announced for collision that collisions. They all right. Oh Get it. Yeah, what is the deal here? It's randomizer is fucking up. You know our collision is the last collision before all out So the paper is the next day not then um

2:20:30Oh, never mind. I guess it's not Well, I mean, it's the last collision. It's not the last time the last dynamite Because ours is the 19th and then we have dynamite and then if they do a collision before Yeah, it'll be the next week, but it's close Here we go Here's the will Dude, what the fuck man. I'm always getting screwed. I'm first again Damn you hear that little laugh Let's see here I Stained second hockey is always third. He's always last and he always socks. Yeah, I think he maybe I maybe that's a good thing though That I'm not last because you know how many last and he is last you know how many points he got From the all end points ton probably the most points that were up for That were on the board Hawk came in at a whopping negative one points

2:21:33He he's put in the two balls dude in a long-term ball you had a long-term bold and two balls He was negative 24 points And ended up getting up to negative one good lord That's bad dude if he yeah, that was pretty pretty pretty bad If I'm bringing it this period he goes better watch it. So everybody listening We if there are matches announced Always check the pick sheet on Wednesday morning just to make sure your picks are in Because all we have right now are props we have 13 props for next week if matches are announced we'll throw them up As long as they're not announced too late. Yeah, so first First pick Our first prop First match ref I'm going Aubrey

2:22:37I'm going Oh man Paul Turner I'll go nox Main event ref I'm gonna Bryce I also have Bryce I'm gonna go Aubrey Start start not strong, mate Will there be an ice bucket challenge live because this is the rebel heart show Uh rebel will be on the show, you know, it's gonna be I believe like a charity for ALS show um Will there be an ice bucket challenge live

2:23:38Now if they show videos that doesn't count it has to be live right it live on the show because they'll show a package of all the Ice bucket challenges that's happened back here and to it I'm gonna say yes. Oh, so say yes. I'll say yes How many segments will rebel be in? Oh Fuck I mean it could Like does she come out for her one bit and then its business as usual the rest of the show to How much are they leaning on this for the show is a running theme for the show is she I'm gonna say through I'm gonna say three segments. I have four

2:24:41So segments so like if they do Like if they play uh vignette package that's one segment then she comes down to the ring That's two or does the vignette package and her coming down to the ring count as one If they're back if if the vignette Leads into leads into her coming down. I think that's one But if it like she's in a she's in a segment backstage we cut away to something else we come back she's in the ring We cut away to something else we see a vignette that's three segments All right, I'll say three How many wrestlers on screen at the end of the show This is also tough How do you it could be the whole fucking roster in the ring with her that's what I'm saying man Or it could be osprey and mocks staring each other down you like you don't know how this show is gonna go Yep, or it could be all the tag teams

2:25:42Yeah, I think this show there's a possibility this show could be kind of like the Brody Brody Lee Memorial show yeah Where it's all about her or it could just be like She's featured in it, but they're still I think they've got to push real stories though They have to push real stories were too close to all out However, it is called rebel heart though. It's true. They have named it after her. I'm gonna say five I'm gonna say I'm gonna say seven Fuck two two's looking good. Now stay five Which crazy you know what what's insane about that as I was going back and forth between two and 20 Over under six point five women segments And

2:26:44And all the rebel are she counts as women segments. Yep I want to say under I'll say under I'm gonna say under two Here's a thing we're all getting fucked if Rebels like throughout the show. Oh, yeah Yeah, if they lean rebel heavy, oh man, who will bleed? I say no one I'll also say no one Yeah, I don't think this is gonna be a bloody show. I'm gonna say no one also Will Leo Rush be on the show I'm gonna say no I'm gonna say yes. I think they put him in a segment with rebel. That'd be cool I'm gonna say no she's fine

2:27:49Will the new level cut a promo I say yes. Oh, so say yes Yes And it counts as they count it as a trio also right as long as they speak yeah if they speak on my It's a promo. Yeah. Okay. Will will we see a ladder And I'm not talking like on a contra on video package I'm a ladder in person I say yes Yes I'll say no How many times will Andrade say how you know I'm gonna say one I'll say one He's burnt me on this too many times with the two yeah, yeah I'm gonna say two How many new Japan pro wrestling

2:28:50exclusive wrestlers will appear I'm talking like if United Kingdom or United Empire But it has to be exclusive new Japan wrestlers. I'm actually gonna say zero Gabe kid counts right now he's Sunday W. He has signed officially okay I'm pretty sure he yeah for sure. Yeah, I think he's holly Oh Man Yeah, I'm gonna say zero then Man The United Empire has three people in it right that that's how many people were there that's not worried about like if it death riders Come at like I don't know I'm just it could happen

2:29:53I'm gonna say it's three right that's how many people were with them last night Yeah, I'm gonna say I'm gonna say three because I think they'll be there again. Do you guys have any thoughts on who His faction might be in a w sounds like he's gonna build up a faction here No clue At this point man, it's hard to tell I really is I want him to stay solo Yeah, I agree You need to Who is the first wrestler we see And I'm gonna say Osprey Wouldn't shock me though if it's Brit Baker like welcoming out Bang will go Osprey I'm gonna say mocks Well

2:30:53You feel like they're gonna start the show with rebel But she will be the first wrestler you see no no, but I'm saying like well it did if Shivani Does if it starts off Shivani's in the ring Any does the announcement or whatever Then I could totally see it being her I'm gonna say rebels the first wrestler we see All right, that's the picks Love it Cool fellas Well until next week until next week But have a good evening enjoy your uh, would you say you're having for dinner eggs and baked beans Not gonna be anywhere near you tonight God leave eggs and baked beans you're gonna stink yourself out of that house man So I'm going for All right, I'll see you see you

2:31:59Night Damn eggs and baked beans man Who has that as a fucking dinner man The night cap top five power rakes number five I have rip Baker Returning to the company even though I'm kind of in him on it uh It's good to have her back. So I did my top five a little different. I there was so much I lumped all in As as one thing okay, so my number five is Jericho and Nick Wayne. Oh I like that. I like that Number four for me. I actually have the Darby Donkzilla match from dynamite last night. I love about that one My number four I have the trio's match that opened the show

2:33:00number three for me. I have the Uh osprey mocks stare down at the end of the night with the graphic on the screen. Yeah number three for me. I have FTR Coping cage in the buck segment number two for me. I have the segment with Those guys with the ladder match. Yeah Number two for me. I have the mocks and osprey ending to dynamite Number one for me is all in It in total but with an emphasis on The main event and the new level coming in those two moments kind of combining with all in Number one for me is all in and it's just the fact that AEW now Has it when it comes to putting on a stadium show. Yeah, they Minted themselves man. This is the best stadium show they've ever put on. Yeah, they got it down now

2:34:03They know what they're doing. Yeah, they can make this show feel like a legit thing in front of a legit 45,000 people crowd. I'll say it again. It felt More mania than mania to me. Yeah, for sure. Yep All right everybody that is going to wrap us up for this edition of the Turnbuckle Tavern Make sure you guys head over to patreon.com Backslash the Turnbuckle Tavern Join us on our patreon 299 a month You can't beat it. It's just like a soror peter man. Yeah man. We'll be back. We will be Shugging along to all out Join us Until next week Keep it snug and stiff Jay brisco forever And sparky plug for president