49ers Trade a Third-Round Pick for DT Osa Odhigizuwa

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1:01We were thinking of you guys over at your hotel. We were thinking of you guys, so glad you guys could join us in the party. Well, first and foremost, I know it says that they're planning to release him, but I'd like to add on that they're planning, not planning to release him anytime soon. Okay. They essentially have no guaranteed money left in his contract, so they can hold on to him for the time being. They can hold on to him in the draft and see if they could flip him for a pick. At that point in time, they can hold on to him until June, they've paid him an awful lot of money. I don't think this is happening anytime soon, despite the report. And I think that they'll be holding on to him for a little while to see if there's any trade value at all. Washington does make a lot of sense. He played with Jaden Daniels in college. They're very close. Jaden Daniels, I'm sure, would love to play again with Brandon Ayuk, but I don't get the sense that the 49ers are any rush to move on from Brandon Ayuk, even though we know eventually they will. The 49ers completed a trade to acquire defensive tackle, Osa Adigiazua from the Dallas

2:02Cowboys. He's a fifth year defensive tackle. I talked on this podcast up, coming as a little bit surprised if 49ers did not even tinder Kalia Davis as a defensive tackle after he started every game for them last season. Well, now we know why here comes Osa. Here you go, young tone, Osa, Osa Adigiazua is going to be a San Francisco 49er. They traded a third round pick to get the defensive tackle from the Dallas Cowboys. We'll have Nick Harris join us at 1115 to talk all about it. Sam Hamick is going to pop by at 1250. And we've got another day of silver JD, waltz are hanging out with you, little world baseball classic. By the way, the game that got pushed to to be actually a pretty damn good game. Everybody exhale. Mark DeRosa knew it all along. Team USA not doing it the easy way. They punched their tickets to the quarterfinals. So we're going to go a little here there and everywhere. Good morning, my friend. Happy Thursday. Yeah, happy Thursday to you a lot to get into over the course of the next four hours.

3:07It's going to be fun. And yeah, DeRosa off the hook. I'm not sure he gets credit for that, but Team USA moving on. And that means we get to watch Logan Webb pitch again for the United States of America. So that's obviously a positive coming up tomorrow. The 49ers making moves and maybe being a little bit petty as it relates to Brandon Ayouk and his desires to quickly sign with the Washington commanders didn't see that one coming. But maybe we should have seen that one come and considering the way Ayouk tried to stick it to the 49ers here over the course of the last year. I'm not surprised whatsoever that it's gone this way. I don't know what's going to happen on the Brandon Ayouk front Washington commander. The morning show was playing some of that sound from TJ Hushman's out of which we should definitely revisit because Hushman's out of someone who likes Brandon Ayouk and even he was saying, look, what he did was kind of crazy for his age, being in theoretically the prime of his career, albeit coming off of a severe injury and to forfeit that much

4:09money just to get your way out of a franchise. Well, the 49ers don't have to release him right away. Maybe just maybe they're going to see if they can get any trade compensation for him. Now I don't imagine another team being willing to offer anything. I mean, maybe, maybe, maybe a very late round pick. See if the 49ers can get something out of it. But look, it's clear that this relationship between San Francisco and Ayouk is over. The question is when do they release him and obviously everything that is surrounding the 49ers, you know, for the trade yesterday, I got to say I was driving home. Derek Papa announced it on dirty workway and I was getting off the freeway in 280 and I'm thinking, all right, cool. Two immediate thoughts. First, all right, they addressed a need trading a third-rounder isn't nothing, but they got a proven and durable player who there was a surplus in Dallas at that position because the team changed. So I'm thinking, all right, not bad. And my second thought was, oh boy, Papa is going to have a field day with this pronunciation. We've had a couple of fun bits on the show and we'll play some of those clips for you

5:11coming up from the end of January when Danny was actually filling in for Walter. We had a lot of fun with some of the toughest pronunciations in Papa's broadcasting career and I even gave him a couple of gems from my small sample of play by play time at the college level and doing a little bit of semi pro leagues too. We had a lot of fun with that. Osa and Bosa or is it Bosa and Osa? I'm canaling my inner Greg, I love you brother, I hope you're out there listening and feeling good. Osa and Bosa, maybe we'll line up next to each other. Yeah, I mean, it's going to be a race for the sacks, although I'd like to think that Bosa can ultimately win that when Osa of Digi Zua is the one who is a little bit more of a run stuffer, but look, just to kind of, as we get going here, an 808KNBR is the number to join the conversation, this is another case of, is it some major splash of free agency? No, but to make a trade after you missed out on someone like John Franklin Myers who

6:13we know that they were in on, I see that as a practical and reasonable decision for a team that let's be honest, we look at the biggest tolls. I think you would have said X wide receiver certainly right at the top of the list when you went into this week, defensive line, defensive line, defensive line can never have enough of them. I mean, what they started the year with the initial 53 man roster, they had 21 lineman total. It was 11 defense, 10 offense or maybe it was the other way around. You can never have enough depth at this position. So they have addressed the depth factor. Obviously, the Trent Williams thing is a major domino that needs to fall and that's going to dictate how we have the outlook on the lines of scrimmage. But as Papa has said to me many times, you construct your roster in a way to win your division and where was their weak spot in their division? When you look at the end of the season, well, they got completely torched on the lines of scrimmage twice in the final three weeks. Well, and Osa, Diggie Zua, Diggie Zua, I've got to have to work through on myself here

7:15to make it comfortable. But he's somebody that can pressure the quarterback from the interior. And I think would project as more than just depth. I think he's somebody that comes in and is a starting caliber player. And especially if you look at the 49ers looking to do the NASCAR package or whatever they call it, the five man front, as they has been noted that they're going to do more five man fronts this year. And so it just gives you somebody else that you can plug in. And plug in the traditional, and I know they want to make some adjustments to run some three, four at different points. He is that four, three, three technique that, again, the numbers in terms of sacks, not necessarily there, but the numbers in terms of pressures and being able to heat up the quarterback is there. So I think when you look at what had been a relatively quiet first three or four days

8:17of free agency, somewhat expected. But the 49ers did now, as you look back on it, address three, four days after the fact they're top two areas of need. And obviously this not being a free agent signing. This is a trade, but you'll give it up a third round pick is not insignificant. You don't do that unless the player that you're bringing back is going to be somebody that you think can be extremely impactful, and or a starting caliber player. And look, they moved on from from Kalea Davis, as you heard, Matt Mayoko say in the open. So they needed somebody to be able to replace him and somebody that could come in and be more impactful and be more impactful in terms of, you know, pressuring the quarterback up the middle, which is something that ironically has given them trouble on offense through the years. So you understand the importance of it. So I think you can now make the case here through four days that the 49ers have addressed

9:17their top two needs and it starts to set them up for a month and a half from now in the draft. It's one fewer pick to work with, but still opportunities to continue to address their needs with their first and second round picks. Well, you mentioned Kalea Davis and Jordan Elliott's also not currently on the roster. We did learn that they placed that tender on Sam Okuano. So as it is right now, the 49ers defensive line room is on the edge. You got Bosa, Huff and Okuano, more hybrid kind of players. You've got Michael Williams and Keon White. And then defensive tackle. You got the two rookies from last year, Collins and West. And then you added a veteran to that mix who like Franklin Myers has been able to get out on the field and stay on the field, even if not making big splash plays all the time. You don't necessarily have to if you can get your edge guys to be healthy, someone who can help defend the run, someone who can provide a little bit of pressure up the middle, and someone who can be more that veteran presence as you let guys like Collins and West come along. I certainly see as a plus again, I'm not going to come on here on 50,000 Watts and say

10:18the day after the trade, it's the greatest thing ever. And if you don't think so, I'm insulting your intelligence and you have your own version. No, okay, like let's be measured about this. But I do think if you are going to sacrifice a third round pick, which certainly isn't nothing in the day to draft category, go and get a player you at least feel proven about because as there was a lot of riffing going on in the last 24 hours, well, the 49ers and the third round and probably just going to get some injury prone running back that doesn't end up seeing the field, although, although Fred Warner himself was the third rounder. Yeah, a good pick there. But I mean, do you trust the 49ers to make a third round pick at this point that can come in and be a starting caliber player, immediately more than you trust the ability for them to make this trade for somebody. And you mentioned Jordan Elliott who did sign with Robert Salah and the Titans as well here. That became official this morning. So he's gone in addition to Kalia Davis. So this was an area of need.

11:18I think they had noted it and I do think they're going to look to continue to enhance that area through the draft process. And maybe there's a lower level free agent still that they can throw into the mix as guys continue to look to find homes here now as we get basically into day four of free agency in the newly year starting yesterday, formally in the afternoon. So again, third round pick. You don't give up third round picks for guys that have played at the level and have had the career of OSA unless you think he's going to be able to come in and make an impact. So I think it's not nothing. And if anything, maybe Greg, you're under selling it a little bit. I don't think it's the greatest trade in the history of trades. But I do think it's a pretty impactful trade at an area of need. When you give up a third round pick, you're counting on a guy to be, I think a legitimate force for you and a legitimate force for you immediately. It's a guy who got paid last year and the 49ers might in some ways be taking a one-year

12:24flyer on, but also could be the type of player that is still young enough to where if he can perform, you'd look to keep him around here for years to come. Well on the one-year flyer note, I should note that OSA Otigizua has a great contract for coming to San Francisco. So it's a $16.75 million cap hit. But then in 2027 and 28, zero guaranteed money. So if this thing is a disaster or if he can't see the field or whatever, then they can just cut him. Like, this is a very low risk and practical kind of deal. So I wasn't trying to say that I'm not feeling positive about this. My point is, look, we will see, I don't think it's the greatest trade in the history of trades. But as was the case with going out and getting my govins, it does feel a whole and because you missed out on someone like Franklin Myers who we know that the 49ers wanted to go and get. I'm very, I feel very positively about the fact that they thought, okay, well, we didn't get him. Let's go pivot and find another solution. They did just that. And I think giving up a third rounder is a worthy price to be able to do a player that

13:27you've at least seen play in an NFL defense. There's tape on. He's been a productive player. He's been an available player. So all around just a very, very solid move as we continue along with this off season cycle. All right. I'll tell you about our sharks contest as well. We've got a couple of funny clips for you in honor of Papa and the pronunciations when we come on back 808 K and VR. How we feeling another day, another transaction here in 49er land? We're going to talk to Sam. Amy get a little bit into the basketball side and yeah, Vinnie Pasquantino. He said, okay, fine. You put me on FS one. Well, I'll make the world baseball classic worth your while we'll dip into that a little bit later as well. Papa and Solar with JD on these sports later. Every day excessive delays and denials from big insurance keep patients from accessing the care they need. And when care is urgent, these delays can be disastrous. These practices cost billions in wasteful spending driving up costs for American families. But while big insurance put up barriers, America's hospitals and health systems are in your corner.

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16:31of the Bay Area's Vietnamese community at the SAP Center. When I tell you at some point later in the show, dial it up. Hopefully you get the number saved by this point 415 896-5627 and if you want to join our conversation, that's 415 808-5627. So I told you with the OSA Diggie Zua transaction yesterday 49ers given up a third round pick and then you've got a defensive tackle coming back the other way to join Matt Eberfluse by the way who was joining on the defensive staff for Rahim Morris. He was in Dallas this last year and we'll talk to Nick Harris all about their relationship and what kind of player the 49ers have acquired. So my first thought was all right, you traded something definitely not nothing to go and get a player you think can be a starter, be a stable place on the defensive line and help you right now. And then the second thought was also a man poor Papa who wants to get back on the field or back in the booth, I should say back in the booth so badly and he deserves to be back

17:34in the booth. He's like, dude, you got to get me with another pronunciation. So actually JD, when you were out because Papa was in and Walter, when you were still out, Danny had a fun bit with us on one of our shows where he gave us all about pronunciations and he's like, what is the hardest name you've ever had to pronounce? What has caused you the most sweat in all of sports broadcasting? So here was a tidbit when Ted Robinson was talking about the old Patriots fall back tight and Michael, Oh, Manawa, I think is how you said it. And Danny pulled it up quickly. Papa was flabbergasted. Take a listen. But to a song of I love Michael, who I'm on, I would do it. That's it. Wow. That's Teddy ballgame. Oh, I'm on. I was doing it. Who the hell is that? That was great. Great work by Danny. That was so good. So now we've got Bosa. We still have Joey Bosa out there and now we've got Osa Odigizua. I think Papa's like, he has no problem having the time to be able to nail this down and I have no doubt he's going to, he's going to destroy it.

18:36But that could be a tough assignment on the defensive line, especially if Joey Bosa comes over now. Yeah. Osa and two Boses, that would be unbelievable. Could you imagine that three fifths of your, or maybe three fourths, depending upon the line of, of your, of your defensive line. If you go five band front versus the traditional four band front can be Bosa or Osa Greg. When Danny asked us that question, I also gave my toughest name. I was calling basketball for UCSB. UC Arlington comes into town and I see this one name on the roster. I'm like, please tell me this is a three minutes of game kind of guy. Now he averaged like 11. He was a starter. He also played really well that night. Did me absolutely no favors. This is Papa's reaction to my favorite player from UT Arlington. Keo Duretchi Akabundu Ehioku. What do you say? So maybe we'll get some, what did you say is from Papa when we get a little Osa Odigizua.

19:38That was that or that as well. So pot, we miss you. You're going to nail it and maybe we'll get two Bosa's when all is said and done here. But back to how we opened up the show JD with a third rounder. I mean, how are fans feeling about the fact that the 49ers did give up a third rounder because they don't have later picks. They got a one. They got a two they had a three and they've got these three fours or is it four fours now because they had the three fours that were comp picks. You might have an additional four with all of that. So I think this stuff six picks remaining in this draft, none there in the later rounds of five, six and seven though. So look, you gave up a pick that could theoretically yield you something. You do have needs to fill and I think as the draft gets closer, it's not about thinking of specific names of guys that need to target, but rather you got six picks, you got holes to fill. How are you going to use them? And they just sacrifice one of those picks to fill a hole with a player that they don't have to worry about coming out of college. It's someone that they've seen play in the NFL defense. Yeah, and I think that's the part that I like about it.

20:42I tend to trust the 49ers more with proven players than I do with draft picks. And I think when you look at the needs up and down the 49er roster, were they going to get somebody that could do what OSA has the ability to do here at 27? Are you going to burn your second round pick on an interior defensive tackle? And so I think they knew they had to go out and address it in a meaningful way here before they get to the draft. And I think that's why they were in on John Franklin Myers. And that's why they were willing to do this. But that being said, and I go back to something that you mentioned in the first segment when you were talking about the contract and kind of breaking down the fact that, hey, if this thing doesn't work out, no money, no new money beyond this year or no guaranteed money beyond this year, and you can just move on. And I'm thinking, no big deal, and I'm thinking, you gave up a third round pick.

21:44And obviously the Niners are not thinking that that's what it's going to be. But given up a third round pick, as I've said a few times already, is not nothing. And I think we are at that time where those picks do feel extremely valuable before they actually turn into players. But I'm curious as to what 49er fans think, and 808 can be the number to jump in and join the conversation via the phone lines, 415, 808, 5627, Golden State Lumber and Showroom Tech's line open as well, as far as getting a player that projects to be a starting caliber quality interior defensive lineman for that third round pick, you know, and the risk involved between, you know, because he is, he is still a younger player as well, which I think is, you know, that young prime, which the 49ers typically sign, they typically sign older players. I mean, you look at the Mike Evans deal and they're more comfortable, I think, with even older players.

22:44So this is a young prime player, but not a rookie level player in terms of youth. But I just think, you know, this is the kind of deal that you make because you're confident that it's going to work out. But if it doesn't work out, you do leave yourself pretty vulnerable. I feel like to scrutiny based on the fact that that you are giving up a day to pick at a third round pick and third round picks, third round picks are valuable. So given one of those up, you don't just do without believing that you're going to get a quality player that can come in and contribute back. Couple of texts to read off here is we got some reaction coming in. How do you feel about the 49ers giving up a third round pick to acquire somebody like Osa Diggazooa 707 saying this very fair, no pick is guaranteed and Osa is proven 916, giving up picks for known players has worked out for the Rams and now the Rams have kind of gone to both extremes, right? We saw the F them picks approach that ultimately yielded them a Super Bowl.

23:44Then we saw the protect picks at all cost and they nailed a lot of those picks to where they got back into relevance. And now we might be seeing at the end of Matthew Stafford's timeline, another wave of F them picks, but I agree with 916 right there. And then we have a little bit of saltiness from 209 says, I'm okay, giving up a third rounder because we probably would have drafted a kicker. All right, we know that that literally wouldn't have happened here with any Pinero finally signing. But damn, yeah, no, but it is to be fair, like all four aside, it's cold, it's funny, all humorous side though, it is a fair discussion that the 49ers and some of those early rounds. And again, a three isn't a one, it's not a day one pick, but it's a high enough round where you can get a highly impactful player. The 49ers have historically in this regime missed a lot of third round picks. And I know people bring up the Jake Moody, they bring up the often injured running backs where somebody that they get in the sixth round ends up being more productive. I for this reason am in favor of going and getting a proven player, but back to your point

24:46of it all JD, if it doesn't work out, it might not kill you financially. It certainly opens you up to more scrutiny for a regime where you're always going to compare how the 49ers draft and and use their draft capital against that of John Schneider and the Seahawks and that of less need in the Rams. Well, the fact that you've missed on those prior picks shouldn't in theory deter you from making a pick if you think you have a player, but what if we discussed here for the entire week and even going back to Seattle winning the Super Bowl and the 49ers getting beat up in Seattle now coming up on two months ago in the middle of January in the divisional round that the 49ers have to hit in the draft and hit in the draft with the first three picks, one to the first second and third rounders with what caliber of player immediate starters. And so the reason I like this trade is the fact that you are getting a starting caliber player for your third round pick. And I don't care that he's 27 years old at this point, bring him in and you know what

25:54you're getting. And I just kind of like that cost certainly even if he is more of an expensive player, he will be 28 in August by the way before the regular season starts. So he's going to play into this next year at 28. So it's a guy who's been in the league. It's a guy who's been productive in the league. It's a guy who's still a couple of years before his 30th birthday. So young, young prime type of a player. And now you know, again, he has to come in and prove it, but he has to this point in his career. Now I know that one of those three top picks, the 49ers went and got a starting player for which I think has been the thing that they haven't been able to consistently do. And that's what Seattle and to a certain extent, the Rams when they've actually kept their picks have been able to do throughout the course of the draft. 808 KNBR. We've got some calls rolling in a lot of text, some great interaction here. We will get the Dallas perspective of it all with Nick Harris coming up at 1115, a lot of bouncing around different topics here on this Thursday.

26:56But it's Osa, oh, Diggie, Zua, Papa, you're going to nail it. And I think we're not going to be hearing or whatever we had fun with with that daddy done back on the double dips. More coming up. It's Papa and Silver with JD on the sports leader. Who the hell is that? Papa and Silver continues now streaming live on YouTube and twitch.tv slash these sports leader need the perfect space to sound off instantly. Join the conversation now. Coming in for Greg Papa is John Dickinson on the sports leader. Yeah, you heard the man run YouTube and twitch go check it out. We always love the YouTube chat. Good morning to everybody out there. We are here for the next three and a half hours. It is silver. It is JD and it is third round pick season because the 49ers traded theirs to go and get Osa, oh, Diggie, Zua, we will talk to Nick Harris coming up in the next hour.

27:58But the debate right now as we open it up to the phone lines, the text line, the YouTube chat is how do we feel about the 49ers moving off of a day to pick to go and get a player that they feel like can help them right now. Well, JD, when you put it in the context of let's just say that you use the third round pick to go and get a day one starter, although it's not going to be a 22 year old. It's going to be a 27 year old. Hey, look, honestly, I will take it in a lot of ways. And I'm not saying that you need to trade all your picks because getting younger is important. But for all that's been made about the 49ers and oh, they got my heavens and oh, they're so old and oh, outside of rock party, they're a team that's just aging. Yes, their best players are older. We know this 27 is also not an age, especially on this contract where I'm going to look at it and say, oh, you just traded it for an older player. No, you traded it for somewhat of a season veteran 27 though with his track record of his availability and production. I'm not looking at that as old whatsoever. No, I will take that in terms of the guarantee that you're getting a capable player.

29:03Now, if you're doing this for a 32 year old, then I would have had much more of a problem with it. But the 49ers are not doing this for a 32 year old. They're doing it for a 27 and will be 28. I guess we should say 28 because that's the age at which you will play the 2026 season. So I like the certainty of knowing that you're getting value out of that pick in part because the 49ers have been less consistent in making those picks, but also because an area in which other teams have been able to improve their rosters at to a greater extent have been the ability to show they can they can draft guys in a perfect world you'd like to draft that guy in the in the first, first, second or third round and have him come in and be able at a 22 year old to step onto the field and be able to provide the level of play that they're hoping for.

30:04But that isn't always the case and is often easier said than done. And I think it's been even more true with the 49ers. So go get a guy that's basically plug and play and can help your defense in an area in which I think the 49ers defense was what is at its at its weakest again. We can say pass rush in terms of the edge guys and I do think they need another edge to throw into the mix. And that's not what OSA is. But I do think, you know, the interior defensive line because you have Nick Bosa coming back on the outside, the interior defensive line was the number one area of the defense and the number two area after wide receiver that I would have had on my big board in terms of what the 49ers needed to address. Yes, above offensive line, yes, above safety, although you can make a case for those positions as well. And so the 49ers, interestingly enough, have addressed those two positions here throughout the first four days of free agency just doing the one with the train.

31:05It's so funny to me when you just said they need another edge and OSA is not that. It's kind of like how I viewed, yes, they need another wide receiver that can stretch the field and be a little bit more of a speedster. But just because you sign Mike Evans and he's not that doesn't mean that Mike Evans skill set can't help you. Like, there's still multiple holes to fill at different position groups. And so while pass rush was a major major mark on the 49ers going into the season where they were below everybody. And yes, that includes the New York Jets, even though that was an issue, it doesn't mean that you can't benefit from having an interior alignment, especially a veteran when you got two rookies who are trying to come along and be able to build themselves up and Alfred Collins and a CJ West, oh, and by the way, stopping the run doesn't hurt so much either. Now the only downside, I think is the fact that, you know, he is going to be up to be paid again here in a year. And that is the difference between going and getting somebody that you're going to draft

32:09and have under team control for multiple years at a much cheaper price. There is a cost component to this that has to be factored in. And that is, I think, the risk, not that he's not going to come in and be productive or be unworthy of a third round pick. The one thing I will say is you don't make this move if you're the 49ers without, in my opinion, the belief that it's beyond, let's say, a one year kind of stopgap. And I hear exactly what you're saying about Collins and West and, you know, it gives them another year to be able to kind of get up to speed and look, they're going to be a major factor for the 49ers, I think, this year. But you want to have, if you're going to make that move, you want to have that guy, I think, on your team for more than just the one year, especially if he is a productive player. And again, he's somebody that, you know, would be up for maybe a little bit more guaranteed money coming up in the next year if he does come in and perform.

33:11It is the tradeoff of the security of knowing what you're getting that, yeah, you're going to have to deal with the financial components sooner rather than later. That's a fair point. And that's certainly something that is a different side of the debate we're having about the 49ers choosing to give up a third round pick on the Golden State Lumberan showroom text line. Still a lot of reaction about how their track record in the third round has not been great under this regime. And 209, though, with a pretty good text, and I think it's a solid perspective here, which is if I drafted the guy that we traded for. So essentially, if I drafted Osa Odigizua in the third round and he ended up being what he is, I'd be fine with that. That's a proven player, proven third round player and an option to work out a contract with him. Again, not some colossal difference maker, but if you drafted this caliber of player with your third round pick, considering what the 49ers needs are, are you satisfied with that? And to 209's point, they would say, yes, totally agree with that. The only thing I'll add to that is in a perfect world, you'd be able to draft that guy in

34:15the third round and he'd be able to come in and start at 22 and not have to wait, let's say, three years for him, because that's been the case, I think at times with the 49ers is not that they necessarily don't draft players that are capable, although there isn't a record of that. I'm not, I'm not absolving that. But if you draft that player, is he ready day one to come in and make an impact? And that's the part that even if you draft a good player, I wouldn't necessarily trust so going out and getting the known, the known quantity, I think is exactly why the 49ers were so inclined to make this move. Nine or had Rick checking in, I thought, oh, so as signed through 2028, he is. There's just no guaranteed money after this year. So kind of like the Trent William situation, he's not, not under contract, he's not a free agent, but his guaranteed money has run out and there would be maybe the possibility to make an adjustment there.

35:16And yeah, and 20 million, I mean, is what his number is for the, for those, those next two years, 20 million per year. And so you, you know, I think both sides would be inclined to want to rework a deal at that point. So he's, he's not an inexpensive player at this point. It was a, it was a four year, 80 million dollar contract, but 39 million in terms of, of what was guaranteed money and at signing. And so 52 million total and, and he can be a free agent moving forward in, in 2029. But again, it doesn't get to that point. This contract is set up to be reworked again next year if he comes in and performs well and, you know, to kind of, you know, get off that cap number and kind of spread things out through future years. Couple more to get to from a couple of different of 707's, 707 first says, with a bunch of copy and pasting, why don't KBR host server mention the potential for compensatory picks

36:20if a player like this later walks, well, because he hasn't walked yet. And yeah, they could theoretically get a compensatory pick, but that's a conversation. Well, yes, we're far down the line. It is, but here's the other thing. If he leaves in 27, so let's just say they, let's just say they move on. They cut him next year. Well, yes, you could potentially get a compensatory pick the following year in, in 2028. So it's, again, it's not like a guy leaves and you immediately get those picks back. But you look at the 49ers right now. You mentioned they do have the four, for, fourth round picks for the 2026 draft and three of the four are compensatory picks, but that goes back to last year. And when the 49ers did their letting go of a bunch of salaries and then basically didn't sign a lot of players. So you have to, it goes both ways. You have to not only have players walk in free agency, but it's a formula where you let players walk and then don't sign enough players to where you really compile those picks.

37:23You don't just automatically get a pick for a player. If you, if you sign a player at a similar level of, of, of say, OSA, Odig-Izuah, I'm trying, I'm trying to work through that. I don't want to, I don't want to end up in, I don't want to end up in, in Danny Dunn's, Danny Dunn's scramble drill in terms of the pronunciation here. So I'm working my way into OSA, Odig-Izuah. All right. I think I'm getting it. OSA, Odig-Izuah. Who the hell is that? Yeah. I, I don't want to, I don't want to get to that point, but the, the, the four, again, the, so you don't automatically just get a pick for a player that leaves. Uh, so I think sometimes again, as most things are with the draft and draft compensation, overblown. I mean, if I go too far down the compensatory pick, rabbit hole, I'm going to start scouting like Walter's son's classmates and see what they're going to be available for their NFL potential. Uh, it's talking about names, pop it doesn't want to say, by the way, when John Miller

38:24botched Eco Ball sets, I, he like tried to steer clear of that for, forever. Uh, 808 KBR is the number more text again to really good question from the 209 that I want to dive into when we come on back, uh, lastly, 707. It sounds like you were discrediting what Mike Evans brings. He's in fact a field stretcher. Look, I love the Evan signing. And my point is that I think I've seen more mixed reaction on the Mike Evans acquisition than I would have thought given how positively I felt about what he can be. The concern is the soft tissue in the hamstring, but if you get an available, Mike Evans, absolutely love, love that move for Kyle Shanahan, Brock, and this 49ers team. Good question from the 209 when we come on back, JD, do you believe the 49ers so far got better or worse? Let's expand upon that. It's Papa and Silver with JD on these sports leader. Now I'd like to introduce you to meaningful beauty, the famed skincare brand created by Iconic Supermodel Cindy Crawford. It's her secret to absolutely gorgeous skin, meaningful beauty makes powerful and effective

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40:26Thursday. We will talk to Nick Harris coming up in the 1115 slot. By the way, big news for Baltimore because nothing is a given conveniently. Trey Hendrickson passed his physical and he officially will be signing with the Baltimore Ravens. And since we got to make everything official, the Mike Evans deal is official here in San Francisco. So you don't have to worry about a Max Crosby situation happening out West JD. This is progress report time where the offseason is not over, right? Sometimes your teacher would just be like, hey, I just want to let you know where you're at. And either it was like a day ruin or it was like, ah, thanks for letting me know. I'll feel good about myself. Some mixed reaction here as far as the 49ers offseason to this point. And I want to revisit the text from 209. Do you guys believe the 49ers so far got better or worse, also why haven't they done anything for the secondary? The NFC West has some scary weapons, your thoughts. Yeah, I think they have gotten better that that's the short answer to it.

41:31I do think they're, you know, Mike Evans is going to help them, but I think it's somewhat of an incomplete because they do have so many holes in so many different positions. And you can't necessarily fill everything in terms of free agency. I think certain things get thrown into the free agent mix and then other things kind of get thrown into. All right. We got this guy in free agency or that guy here, then now we have to look to draft, you know, one of these players when those picks come up at the end of April. So it's incomplete, but it's incomplete because I do think they've gotten better with the Mike Evans signing, but I will also acknowledge that while saying they need another receiver. But does that mean they needed another receiver in free agency? Not necessarily. So like check back with me after the draft and I may have a little bit of a different answer for you in terms of, you know, have they gotten better in terms of adding Mike

42:32Evans potentially losing Joanne Jennings, obviously in Brandon, I you could some point that'll become official. And then, you know, who did you pick in the draft and what does that player potentially project to be? So on that front, I would say it's somewhat of an incomplete, but short answer, I think they got better and addressed the top two positions that I would have had on my board, which are wide receiver and interior defensive lines. So I check those boxes, but to the texture's point, you do still need to mess with the secondary. And I know they added a couple of players that are o-line depth, which again are not the sexy names that I think a lot of 49er fans would want. You know, the swing tackle and, you know, and somebody that's got a battle for the starting left guard spot. You know, those are kind of the traditional 49er type offensive line moves, not the big splash that I think everybody would want.

43:32So short answer, I do think they've gotten better, but when you separate from that, I think there's also a need to continue to look to get better in a lot of different ways. Absolutely. Yeah. To this point, it is incomplete. And we've only, I mean, it's been a very busy week. We've had to keep track of so much. And then the craziness of the Crosby situation added to all the drama around the NFL. Now to the 49ers that dress a couple of areas of need, what I'd like to see them get John Franklin Myers, absolutely, but the fact that they didn't and then they turned around quickly and found a plan B to that is something I approve of. So as far as the letter grade situation, look, I'm not huge on given the letter grades. And I think when I did it for the Giants first, third of the season last year, I got absolutely torched for that take. I would say it's like a solid B. It hasn't been anything that's blown me out of the water. I really like the potential of the Mike Evans signing and defensive line. John Lynch addressed as much at the combine was the area to address in this off season.

44:34But a lot of it still is going to depend on the draft. Can you go and bring another name out there that is on the market? What is your wide receiver room look like as you head into training camp? Is it going to be built through the draft? Is there another player that you can get? Are we expecting a leap from Jordan Watkins or Jacob Cowling or one of these young guys that I probably don't foresee right now, but maybe they feel better about in the building. These are all the questions. But to 209's point on the NFC West, you also got to evaluate your off season in the context of your division. Now Seattle. They are young. They are due to pay some guys. They are the reigning Super Bowl champions and they have lost some free agents because you can't pay everybody. The Rams of the team that I'm going to be looking at with a little bit more caution and maybe anxiety moving through this season because we've seen their propensity to be wildly aggressive in the past and we've also seen their front office be proven to build a winning team with both approaches, whether it be we're going to get younger and get guys who can

45:34contribute right away or we're going to go all in and get the players that are out on the market. It's funny. Mike Evans is officially in the Bay area. There's video of him on the 49ers account and there have been a lot of comparisons out there to Devon say Adams and what he was able to do for the Rams. Now the big difference is you don't have you know, I've puked a kua lining up with Devon say Adams, but Adams as far as the red zone threat for all you fantasy football players out there. This guy was a receiving touchdown machine. If Mike Evans can contribute in a Devon say Adams like way for the 49ers, that makes a huge difference. But the Rams were a team that I watched as far as what are we going to evaluate with their offices and because as it stands right now, that probably is the team to beat as far as who's winning the early off season race in the NFC West. Yeah, I think so when you look at what is gone from Seattle and we've talked about it a ton, the fact that Seattle was going to lose a bunch of key players and keep some.

46:34And so it may be a better, it may be a very different version, let's say, of the Seahawks that then it was. I mean, in some ways, I think they may have lost too much and more than people would have anticipated. I'm not to say that they won't still have a very good team, but there's going to be an onus, I think, on them to replenish some of the guys that they've lost through their draft picks, but they've proven to be able to do it to a greater extent here over the last three, four years and it's why they were set up to make the run that they went on to win the NFC West and get the number one seed and end up taking the Super Bowl crown at Levi's. So yeah, I think you all, I think you do have to look at it in terms of the race within the division and who's doing what, but it's, it's too early to say, I mean, where would you put, like right now, if you were just, you know, everything we know about, you know, the Rams, the 49ers and the Seahawks, everything we know about those three teams in terms of

47:37what they've lost to this point and what they've gained to this point, also factoring in where they ended the season with Seattle at the top, the Rams, two and the 49ers, three. I would, at this point, I would say the Rams and Seahawks are closer, even as hard as that may be to believe. I think the Rams and Seahawks are closer to each other came down to like one single play in their last two meetings, too, which says a lot, yeah, well, what, which says a lot. So follow me on that. I think the based on what Seattle has lost and the Rams have gained. I think the Rams and Seattle are extremely close to one another. I think the 49ers to this point have gained a small margin on Seattle because Seattle's lost so much. I think they're also though farther away from the Rams, given what the Rams have added to this point, if that makes sense. So it's again, you got to follow the winding road here and there's plenty of ways.

48:38But I think the Niners are closer to Seattle farther from the Rams, but I think Seattle and the Rams are basically in a dead heat now. Well, and let's be fair, the 49ers, that gap that I pointed out at the end of the year, that will close with guys you are getting back who are healthier. Yes, you can't rely on health alone to entirely be the difference. But getting Fred Warner, Nick Bosa, Michael Williams back, getting an X wide receiver. That does hold value when you get back into training camp and you start the season of new, even if you have someone like Kittle that's probably not going to be starting the season, especially with that long trip in Australia. And yeah, the fact that your older is going to take its toll with how many miles they have to travel this year, the Mayo co-calculation of 38,250, more or less. But no, look, if you get the trend situation figured out, I do think that they're going to get the gap as closed a lot from where it was at the end of the season in large part due to the health. It doesn't mean that health alone puts them right there in that mix with Seattle and the

49:39Rams, but where if we're going to do a little visual here as we were trying to demonstrate on the stream, if it ended the season where it's like Seahawks Rams and then maybe the 49ers down here, I think it's more like Seahawks Rams and the 49ers probably back up there. I think that's fair. I think that's well said. And again, the Niners will gain based on health, and I think that's more, I mean, that definitely needs to be acknowledged. I don't know the level at which we can truly judge that yet. I think we have to see where Bosa is at the beginning of training camp, and I think we have to see how far Kittle is away at the beginning of training camp, is it going to be the middle of the year, is it going to be the end of the year, is it going to be potentially not at all for Kittle in 2026, and then Warner obviously was close. And I think in hindsight, one thing, the benefit of, and nobody obviously would have wanted this at the time, but the benefit of Fred Warner not getting back on the field,

50:42I think is going to be a real positive, because I don't think, and I didn't love it at the time, and I give the Niners credit for not pushing. I know obviously if you get to the NFC championship game, then maybe at that point, it would have been worth it. Or if you got into the Super Bowl, certainly, it would have been worth it to have him out there. But I think in hindsight, it becomes almost a blessing in disguise that Fred Warner did not get back out onto the field, because now he can just continue to get healthier throughout the months here of the offseason and truly be good to go at the beginning of training camp and for this in 2026, it's almost to me like, and it's different injuries, but it almost reminds me of, you know, why does Kevin Durant in the NBA, you know, get the credit for being so good post Achilles, right, after he tears Achilles in 2019 in the NBA

51:42finals. And because of COVID, he ended up not starting the next year until December of 2020, because he ended up not playing for a year. So he ended up getting, and people don't note this, like why is Durant basically come back and be the same guy? He got 18 months to come back from the, so he got the extra time that honestly, if the seasons hadn't gotten out of whack due to COVID, he probably would, it probably would have been closer to 12, and I think the extra time, and not having it really cost anything because of the way the schedule got laid out, ended up benefiting him. I think it's a similar issue for Warner here to where his injury was early enough in the season to where obviously he could have come back at the end of the season, but I think it, you know, are at the, if they made the championship game of the Super Bowl, but I think it winds up being a blessing that he, you know, worked to that point, didn't have to actually get out there in games and now can, can really make sure that he's extra

52:43good to go for the beginning of this year. Here's the other part of evaluating the Niners off season, which I don't think we've really addressed this side of the coin much JD. That is the fact that last year, the losses in free agency, the losses in the off season, they hurt, they hurt physically, they hurt you emotionally, like Dre Greenlaw walking out that door, that was the one that really crushed the fan base, who Fonga was a former all pro safety who walked out the door and went to Denver and had a really good season there. This year, I'm trying to think about it and look, Joanne Jennings, we presume he's going to leave. That will be a loss. He's definitely had value, but right now you're looking at Jordan Elliott, okay, Kendrick Bourne wasn't really a meshing with party much at the end of the year anyway. Skymore turned into a really solid special teams player and you lost the third round pick, but I'm not looking at the losses right now is anything that's skull crushing now. If the Trent Williams situation ends up going south and they can't find a resolution, it is an entirely different conversation on that front.

53:46But where we stand, it's like, okay, Joanne Jennings is a tough loss, but you also brought in Mike Evans. And if he could stay healthy, that's a player I'd rather have anyway. So the losses right now, even if the games you don't feel like are anything astronomical for this team, I don't think they really got a whole lot worse to our textures point because look at what they've lost so far. Yeah, I think that doesn't mean though that they aren't still in a position to add an ad meeting full talent and ad talent that comes in and is immediately playable either. Like, it's not too exalt like that. They have a lot of work to do still, I think, whether it's lower level free agency, and again, I don't think the 49ers are necessarily done. I think that they're, they might be done with the big stuff. I think when you look at giving up a third round pick and the guys that are basically off the board and giving up for OSA, Diggie Zua, you're able to, you're able to, you know,

54:50fill a need, but there are still other, so I wouldn't, I wouldn't be surprised if they added a veteran safety at some point still. I wouldn't be surprised if maybe they added one more veteran defensive lineman that, that they like. But again, it's not going to be somebody that is as expensive as, as OSA is, or as accomplished as, as Mike Evans is on the offensive side of the ball at the wide receiver position. All right. Eight away. Can be on to join the conversation. A lot of good interaction thus far here on the Golden State Lumber and show room text line back to the giving up the third round pick 408 until Lynch can show he can actually hit on picks. I'm okay trading picks for proven players. Yeah, I think that's kind of the general consensus that we've gotten. Whether people are being serious or they're, uh, kind of riffing somewhat on the fact that they drafted a kicker in the third round to I do think that there is a bit of a sentiment where it's like, okay, a third round pick isn't nothing, but also there's

55:50a little bit of security where I think 49er fans and let's, let's be fair about it. They are rightfully nervous about the draft picks that the 49ers have coming their way in part because of the mixed bag of recent history. And in part because this is such an important draft knowing that you are still looking up at two teams in your division, even if you feel like maybe they did get better this off season. Yeah. And the four years did, you know, keep a couple of guys of their own. They did keep Jake Tonjes yesterday. They did keep Garrett Wallow was somebody that, that came in immediately and was an impactful player to a greater extent than other linebackers that they, that they had on the roster. Again, those level of moves. I would think that those level of moves, uh, maybe with players from the outside in terms of free agency could potentially be, uh, you know, in, in the mix still over the course of, let's say the next three or four days before free agency really, really, really shuts down.

56:51But we're to the point now where you're basically going bargain hunting. And I don't think that's necessarily a bad position for the 49ers to be in moving forward. All right. Let's talk to Nick Harris coming on back. Does a great job covering the cowboys and he actually had a pretty early lead that Osa, oh, dig Azua would have some interest from the 49ers. So I want to get his perspective on all of that. The cowboys having a little bit of a surplus at that position, fixing their cap situation and the type of player that is coming to the Bay Area, a Walter 707 also said is Danny done responsible for the hip hop rejoins? No, he's just responsible for our tongues getting tied. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we'll talk to Nick Harris when we come on back on the sports leader.