#212 - Pat Boone

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1:01Hey there folks, welcome to the program. I don't want to say anything because I've got just one of the most wonderful guests you could possibly have. He goes by the name Pat Boone and here's the good news. That's his actual name. It is Pat Boone. Pat Boone. Welcome back to this program. It gives me great joy to see you. Hey, great to talk to the real Eric Metaxis, too. A meeting of minds. I wouldn't go that far, but thank you. I'm eating my Dan spirit. Yeah. You're holding a book in your hand and I'm extra excited because it looks like my book revolution. It is and it is an epic, epic book. I know you. I've known you a long time now, but I'm not going to say it's a book that I'm not going to say. It is and it is an epic, epic book. I know you. I've known you a long time now, but I... There ought to be some exploration of your brain that shows how it is different than the usual brain.

2:11Because what you've done in finding newer things and doing such a thorough job of telling us how we came to be in America and how we ought to... We need to know and remember so we can remain America. This is a crucial book and it's been done by other people, but never this thoroughly. And never this as easy to read as this. I didn't expect you. I didn't even know you had a copy. And by the way, his volume, okay, Chris, it's a little... it's a little light. Honestly, I'm just... I'm thrilled to hear you say this. I didn't know you had a copy of the book and I didn't know you'd been reading it and I didn't know you... You would say such nice things about it and it's author. Thank you very much. That just blesses my heart. Well, I know exactly how thorough it is, how much it means to you. I was looking for one thing. If you don't mind my asking.

3:11I was looking over here and page four of 67 or somewhere about Ben Franklin. Of course, the incredible part he played and he was ambassador to England. I wasn't ambassador to England, wasn't it? Or France. France. But he was in England and yeah, he was kind of everywhere. But the contribution that the Jewish... Wealthy Jewish people made to our revolution. Yes. And I was looking for the mention of it. That is one of the many things that I left out of this book. Because as you know, I'm a raving-inty semi. I follow Hassan Piker. No, that's not true. There's so much that I left out of this book. And that's the funny thing. This is a 600-page book. And there is tons of stuff that I just couldn't get in there. I thought this book's going to be a thousand pages. Nobody will buy it. So it's a slim 600 pages. But there are a number of things. There's four or five things.

4:11And you just mentioned one of them that I thought when I do a second edition, I'm going to have to write about this. Because again, there's so much that I just could not get in here. But you're right to bring it up. Let me just add one sentence to this. And that is the Jewish people and Israel pay it a real role in the formation of our government. And even the founding and the financing of it. So much so in Franklin got the Jewish star on the currency that he designed. Most people had no idea that Israel and Jews were so supportive of, although you do document that the founders were trying to create a new Israel when they created America. A new nation. There is no doubt. It's a reprisal of the Sinai covenant. This idea that we're going to get out from under Pharaoh, aka King George III.

5:15And we're going to be in the Sinai wilderness looking directly to God as our king. And this is exactly what Samuel Adams says in his speech in August 1st, 1776. He's speaking to Congress in Philadelphia and he says we have restored the sovereign capital S. It makes it real clear that we've gotten rid of an earthly king. But we're looking to God as our true king. Most people don't know that. I didn't really know it myself. And the more research I did, the more I was astonished at the fact of it. And then at the fact that most Americans have no idea of this. And so obviously I put it in the book, but thank you for mentioning it. Well, but the book itself is just, I mean, everybody should read. And you'd think I can't read a book this thick. Well, if it's written the way you, first of all, I'm 92 and I can read it without my glasses. Maybe that's unusual. But it's big print. It's easy to read.

6:15But also you have a special ability to make flowing readable sentences that are memorable and understandable. And you don't have to go back and read them again. It's a wait a minute. What's that? What's he saying? I mean, it is just an epic, epic establishment. So well, it's not my birthday. But I feel like it's my birthday to have Pat Boone saying such kind things. I mean, listen, obviously I believe in the book and I want every American to know our story. It's why I wrote the book. But the fact that you'd say such nice things. Thank you. Thank you for that. It means it means a lot to me, Pat. I am. We haven't had you on here in a while. You're busy. You're doing all kinds of stuff. I don't even know where to begin with you. I always want to talk to you about, you know, old showbiz anecdotes. Every time I talk to you, you knew everybody. You were friends with everybody going way, way, way back. When did you come on the scene? How old were you? What year did you burst onto the scene in American culture?

7:16Well, let's see. What year? It was 1953. I think that was when I made my first rock and roll record. Now, I think the facts show. And I've said this many times, Elvis and I were midwives. At the birth of rock and roll. And Jesse Jackson said about me once, he thought that Pat Boone did more for race relations in his music in the 50s than any other artist. Because he was a white guy down in Nashville, Christian, singing songs that were called race music. It was rhythm and blues, but it was referred to as race in all black. None of the music that hits in the black communities on black radio were known to pop audiences until I recorded a song called, at my front door, crazy little mama karma knocking, knocking at my front door door door.

8:16Well, what's she knocking? I don't know. Well, you have to hear the song. But it became a million seller. Then the next record was Fast Domino's eighth out of shame. And for four and a half years, I was never off the pop charts. It was always in the books, cash box, billboard, with at least one, usually two records, one going down the other going up. Elvis, of course, came right after me and was my opening act. The first time we met, we've talked about that before. And he and I swapped the top slots in the charts for four years. And gradually, I faded back and he kept coming and became the king of rock and roll. But it was race music, which we began to call rock and roll, which was a phrase much in the music. We're going to rock and roll all night long, baby. Well, that could include dancing, but maybe other things too. Yeah.

9:16And it was all implied in the music. And so it was a historic thing. But that was it was 53 years. Did you say Dana? 53. I think that's the same year. Khrushchev came to power. So congratulations. I got it. I want to, I mean, so, so you've been, you know, world famous for 73 years. I don't think there's almost no one alive who has been in the public eye for 73 years, Pat. That's astonishing. I really, I can't think of anybody that's been in the public eye. In the public eye for 73 years, my goodness. Well, a couple of records, if you don't mind me, not bragging, but just giving couple statistics. But recently, Billboard magazine gave me an award of the longest tenure in the charts. 65 years from the first record in the charts to the most recent one last year.

10:22And so they gave me a special award. But the other thing that people don't know is that I was so prolific in my recording. Frank Sonato recorded 1,500 songs of all matchless wonders. And, and, and then Bing Crosby was my role model. He recorded 2,000 songs. But your target of the guy that recorded 2,700 songs. More than either one. Yeah, two of his people. Two of his people. And the Cal Ripken of pop music. That's unbelievable. 27, absolutely. And I'm getting on the charts even now at 92 with the, with the big record of 27, I think, million selling country songs that I do all in one album. No country artist ever did it. This guy from Nashville, Tennessee did it. And I'm in the charts again. What are you talking about? You're on the charts again. Have I missed this?

11:22What are we referring to here? It's popping into the sales charts. And, and, you know, I don't, they need to run and get them to try to find the statistic. Well, it's this country Jubilee album. Two years ago. Two years ago. Okay. And it's 20, how many songs? 25 million selling hit country songs all sung by one artist. Me. And then I added a new one to it. A song I wrote called Gritz. Gritz, Gritz, best is food there. It's country caviar. Tennessee, Fwa-Grah, hey, Gritz, Gritz, best is food there. It's keep your fancy food. Give me my Gritz. And it became a, wait, is that it? That's a new song that came out two years ago? Yeah. A song I wrote came to me in a dream that I was unhappy that I wasn't in the country charts. And I dreamed that I had written a country song and I was being congratulated.

12:22And the first, first words that you just heard came to me in a dream. Gritz, Gritz, best is food there. Are you serious? That's, that's amazing. Because that's a very clever and funny. Gritz, Gritz, best is food there. It's country caviar. That is funny. That is Fwa-Grah. You have, you know, you hear those words in country music. Well, that's clever, but the most clever is that Gritz, Gritz, best is food there. It's, that's very clever. And you're telling me that came to you in a dream. In a dream, yeah. And so I wrote it, we finished it. Now I've been trying to get quaker oats, the main sellers of Gritz, to use it as a theme song because the country restaurants, the crack-a-barrel, they majored in Gritz for 50 years. And so I'm trying to get him to use the song as a commercial. But so that song is only two years old.

13:22Yeah. And I love that. It sounds like it's, it's 72 years old. It's just got that classic, it's just such a classic sound to write. The Discbund-Grid description, the description, country caviar, Tennessee, Fwa-Grah. That's unusual lyric, but I'm, I'm not talking to you because you are such a great word-smith that I knew that you would appreciate that lyric. Well, listen, as a word-smith, I'm telling you the best part of that song is Gritz, Gritz, best food. What is it? Best is food. There it's. Best is food. There it is. Yes. Roger Miller was a great song, right? Roger Miller, his son was... Did you know him? Yes. And his son was in the record that we made of the song. And he's Dean. And Dean is son, said, I can hear my dad writing that lyric. And that's... You know what? That's exactly right. Are you familiar with the song, Dang Me? Yeah, of course. Audec Miteca-Rope, Mang Me. Yeah.

14:22Dang Me, Dang Me, Audec Arope, and Hang Me. Sure. Hang Me from the highest tree. Oh, woman, would you really want to meet? Would you really want to meet? Would you really want to meet for me? Something like that. Yeah, yeah. Dang Me, Dang Me. Well, Roger Miller, yeah, he was real clever. Really. And it sounds like a song that Roger Miller could have wrote his self, but turns out you wrote it in a dream. Pat, are we making this up? No. Are we... This is really... It's as if we made it up because hardly anybody but you and I know it. But the people that I was working with... Listen, but it's so good, it's so good that people ought to know it. And again, you know me well, I don't below smoke, that's a brilliant lyric. That's a brilliant, you know, best-est food there. That's the kind of thing that everybody would remember that. Everybody remember that. I really... A song that wakes me up most mornings. And my alarm in my phone is a song I wrote called Peter's Whistle.

15:25And it was the Prince Consort of the Queen of the Netherlands when I was there. And he had written a melody called... And they called it Peter's Whistle. What year roughly are we talking about that you were over in the Netherlands? Oh man, I don't keep up with the day so I really don't... What can you give us a decade? No, no, I can't... I don't keep up with it, that's maybe a problem for me. But I was there representing the United States on the day they are Independence Day. Because for years, they... That part of the world celebrated America's Independence Day because of our support for them during the Nazi Holocaust. Right. And so they would ask that America and to come speak to a big, big outdoor celebration, celebrating Independence Day, America's Independence,

16:26they would have meant to Denmark and the Netherlands and so on. So I... Victor Borga had done it one year and then... Wait a minute, wait a minute. You can't just drop a name like Victor Borga and expect me not to stop you. Did you... Victor Borga... Yeah, he's a representative. They ask entertainers and, you know, public-known people to come each year and speak to this big... Several thousands of people gathered in an outdoor place where they had a replica of the Lincoln log cabin, stuff like this American history. They celebrated our Independence and asked an American to come speak and I got to be with the Royal Family and heard this song this melody and I wrote a song which I can't sing for you right now, but called Peter's Whistle and the lyric of it, I'm really especially proud of, but also a song I wrote and people don't think of me as a songwriter. But I wrote a song that was the title song of a movie of mine called The Horror of It All.

17:31A horror comedy and... And, uh, I mean, I made the film in England. The Horror of It All. It didn't have a title song, so I wrote one. When the bats fly free through the belfry and I hear quicks, steps, soft and stealthy through the clammy fog. So unhealthy, I hear the horror of it all, boom, boom, boom, boom, and it's, uh, you know, those lyrics put together, I want to share with another song. Well, everybody dies and Randy Newman complimented me on that one. Because I want to... Wait a minute, wait a minute. You got to... I got to do footnotes or annotations here. You wrote a song that Randy Newman, the brilliant film, uh, score composer and musician, songwriter, Randy Newman, complimented you on that song, you said.

18:33You said partly because his dad was our family doctor, Irving Newman. He told me about his kid named Randy, who was the grand, the nephew of some Lionel Newman and other great musicians that were creating film scores. And Randy was just in high school and he wrote a song. And I managed to get him on dot records, in fact, forgot, until Robert Hilbrin, the historian of music, complimented me on having produced Randy Newman's first record. I said, no, I didn't produce it. I just helped him get up... I said, no, you did. And he showed a 45. And it says, uh, district, not district, uh, produced by Pat Boone, his Randy Newman's first record. And so then... Yeah, go ahead. Later, I started, I wanted to write a song with the universal theme.

19:36I was jogging in Hawaii at the time. And I thought, what is a universal theme that I could write like a Randy Newman song? And so I realized the most universal theme I could think of was death. We're all gonna die. Now, Randy had this ability to write more and full things with Stephen Foster type melodies. And, you know, let's drop the big one and all these other songs he would write, the ironic, with sweet Stephen Foster type melodies, but they were heavy themes. So that's what I wanted to do. So then I wrote, everybody dies. Everybody dies. It's a sad, but true fact of life. Everybody dies. And everybody knows that everybody goes, you just get in line and do your time because everybody dies. I cannot imagine that that would be a big hit, Pat. No, it was not a big hit.

20:36No, it's little depressing because the subject is death. But it goes on to become a very, it has a, it has a wind up to it that is optimistic. And so I would recommend people hear it, but how they're gonna hear it? I'm not on a record label. And except talking with somebody like you who has some interest in it, nobody even knows about all of these songs I've written. They books I too have written. And the fact that I recorded more songs than any artist in history. Another record is four and a half years without ever being off the single chart, not even Elvis did that. And because he went to the army before he finished his four and a half years, first four. Right. So anyway, records I hold, but who knows except me and you. Well, and now the 25 people that are listening to us right now. So you, uh, Randy Newman in case, uh, people forget he's really only famous in pop culture for his cookie song,

21:43short people, which came out. Yeah. I guess it was like 1979 or something like that, 78 or 79. But then he wrote, you're a friend to me. You're a friend of. What? No, he's, I mean, yeah, he's done so much work. Yeah, he's done so much. He's done so much work. And what, what film was that in your friend to me? I don't remember that one. I don't remember it. Those are the, I have a spot. He remembered things I've done stand out in my mind, but then when. Toy story. I'm sorry. Oh, Mr. Chris just said toy story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's okay. So then he's, he is famous to the young generation for that. But did you know Harry Nielsen? You know, you know everybody. No, I didn't know Harry. I know of course who he is. I know what a genius of his, in his own right. But no, no, I didn't know him. But you knew Roger Miller. So who cares? Roger Miller. One of the things his son reminded me of, talking about his dad, he says, he always says he's things that, that just pop up in his mind and, and you'll just say them and he said,

22:47you ever noticed that a chicken, no matter how fat a chicken gets, it never shows in its face. But who, but who would Roger Miller would even think such a thing? That is very funny. That's extremely, that's extremely funny. It never shows in his face. Wow. Who would think of that? Absolutely nobody. It's absolutely worthless but fun. That's, that's the joy of it, I think. That's the way that makes it so wonderful. Yeah. Well, so is there anything we have to talk about or can we just keep rolling for a few minutes on this? Oh, man, I want to talk about this. I've got, I just happened to have in my lap this vinyl. Now, you know, vinyl is making somewhat of a comeback. People are, they're making vinyl machines and marketing them and advertising them and people are rediscovering the joy of vinyl and the way it preserves and plays music.

23:47This is a two vinyl set record. It's called, well, it celebrates the 1959 Winter Dance Party of three artists who appeared in, of the, what's the name of the place? Surf ball. Surf ball. Surf ballroom in Iowa and I've forgotten the year of it. Are these the three folks who died in that play crash? Buddy Ali, Richie Valens and the Big Bopper. Right. And they performed that night, that one night and it was a cold, cool night, not suitable for flying. But, but the phone where Buddy Holly actually called his wife to tell her he was had a fella that was going to fly him a home. He would be home that in the early morning, but they took off into whether they shouldn't have been flying in. And the plane went down with Buddy Holly, Big Bopper and Richie Valens. And so recently, just, I don't know what, a couple of months ago, August 7th, we did a tribute concert at the surf ballroom with a lot of performers, Frankie Avalon and G.

24:59All these other artists did, I got a whole list of people, Ray Anthony. Oh gosh, you would have to swell a whole, but that one of the artists doing their songs and we re created the concert that night, except with many other people doing the songs, I sang O'Donna and what's the blue birds over the songs that are not as popular or well known now, but we're sung that night. So we did the big tribute had to some 2000 people standing in the surf ballroom. There were enough seats. So everybody, where's the surf ballroom? You said it, but I forgot already. Where? Clear Lake Iowa. I need to have somebody reminding me of the details because the too many details that I just can't. But that was their last concert is what you're saying. Yeah, their last concert, they went for the night and the song that memorializes them by by Miss American Pie talks about that.

26:06McLean McLean wrote that song. Yeah. And of course, I'm a clean wrote the famous song by by Miss American Pie, which talks about the plane crash and the deaths. The day the music died. Yeah. So we do all the songs that were sung that night and with many other artists coming along to do them. The of gosh, the what's it? The one that did the what's the group that I can I've got the names down here, but Los Lobos. Los Lobos. Los Lobos. What's the song they do? Paddy wax. Paddy wax. So well, that's not when we know now, but Los Lobos anyway, they all these artists still revere these three guys, Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, Big Bopper. Big Bopper only had one hit, but that. Oh, baby, that's what I like. That was his Chantilly lace. So anyway, we wanted to celebrate Chantilly lace. Yeah, I thought that was Fath's domino. It was not.

27:09No, no, it was the big Bopper. It was the big Bopper. Yeah, big Bopper. He wrote it and sang it. It was it was a DJ and I think the only hit record he ever had, but we utilize him in the in the album that we've done, including a song, a guy in England wrote about the three and it's called he called it the three stars, three new stars and the sky. And so I close the concert singing that song about Richie Valens, Buddy Holly and the big Bopper. So it was one singer still around, utilizing the ones, the young ones whose careers had just got started and they went down that night and yet they are still remembered because of their abilities and what the music they contributed. Today's show is brought to you by Grace Precious Metals in an industry that can be confusing Grace believes in doing business differently with Christian values, transparent pricing and a focus on straightforward gold and silver bullion not high markup collectible coins.

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29:22You're 92 years old. Yeah. When's your birthday? June 1st. I can remember that. And the reason I like that is because my brother was born on the same date a year later. Mama registered nurse. I wanted when the doctor said, you know, Margaret, you're you may have your second baby that knew the same date of your first. I was the first. And she thought that was a great idea. So the night before on the May 31st, she drank a half bottle of caster oil. And that's started. The parasitic motion and in her lower region. Believeable. And so she gave birth to my brother Nick. And I told him many times he's in heaven now, but I told him many times. I was so glad we were born on the same date June 1st because there's a 50 50 chance. I may remember his birthday too. It's the same as mom. What a wise guy you are. It's like such a nice old gent, but you're a real wise guy. So you so gosh, you another another day. And you would have been Irish twins, but you'd just missed it. You missed it by seconds.

30:38He out drew me a nine inch though. That is a right. Yeah, he got a niche taller and and had had kids and he actually had a son or two, which I didn't. I wanted to have a son, but didn't. And so Nick beat me in several ways and he lived a wonderful life. He became he was recording artists, by the way, Randy would put the head of the dot records at the time knew that Nick could sing well, but he sang with more precision than I did. I sang in a more free wheeling way than Nick, which suited rock and roll better, but he had some hits him, even in other countries, but he did not want to traffic. Nick on my name being my brother. So he convinced Randy would to be known as Nick Todd, which was dot records spell backwards. Nick Todd, the only trouble is every time he made an appearance anywhere. Nile is in gentlemen. Let's welcome the star. I show Nick Todd, Pat Boone's brother.

31:40And that is very funny. And then he had to explain why was his name Nick Todd if he was my brother. And so it came to nothing. He got tired of doing it and became a sociologist and pepper and lives in. And that's very funny. He got tired of that and he became a sociologist. What a sad story that is and he became a sociologist holy cow. But he he got into the help start an or as a Christian organization that helped unwed mothers and and you know home orphans and you know people that really needed help. And so of course there's a Nick Boone. What do they call it? I create we created a whatever you call it in their memory. I've forgotten what it is you give money and it's it's named after them. Yes. I've forgotten whatever. Yeah. Yeah. But I want to Nick to be remembered for the good that he did in his life.

32:44Well, you are exactly through 20 23 days older than my mom who's been calling me while we're on the air here. She doesn't know that I'm trying to do a show if she was born June 24th, 1934. So she's she's three weeks younger than you are. But I got to tell you Pat every time I talk to you, I just think of all the people you know and the world of Hollywood that you've kind of been romping through. I remember the for you. You did a golf movie. You know, years ago when I said, hey, who have you ever played golf with and you start telling me anybody that I've ever heard of you played golf with every president that was alive. And you you you were I guess you said that the Bel Air Country Club. It was being crossby who was your sponsor. He was at the country club. And I thought this is just getting ridiculous. But then I tell you about when buddy hack it asked me if he if I could get him into Bel Air. I think he did, but I find him remember who cares. So tell it again. Well, we were making a movie together. And and he said, hey, I want to get into Bel Air.

33:52He says, I'm doing a little buddy hack impersonation. Can you get me into Bel Air? And I said, well, I don't know. I you know being crossby got me and maybe I can get you. I went to the manager of the club, Bel Air Country Club. I said, buddy hack, I'm making a movie of him. He'd like to be a member. Can we get buddy? And he said, well, Pat, I this is not in our bylaws. But it's just a matter of fact, we don't have any Jewish members. What? You don't have any Jewish. Yeah, he says it's not. It's not a law or a rule, but we don't have any. But you're sounds like a rule doesn't it? Yeah, it's unspoken, but he said go to the members and let them nobody would like to be in. And and maybe they'll maybe he'll be the first. I mean, he was the manager seemed to be for it. So I got in touch with all the members of the membership committee. They all said the saying, oh buddy hack it. He's funny. Sure. But when they took the vote, it was no. And I knew why. And so I said to buddy, buddy, I'm going to get out of Bel Air. I'm not going to remember this club. It's a no, Pat, don't do that. I just checked. I can't get you into Hillcrest.

35:01Hillcrest was the Jewish club. He said, I can't get you into Hillcrest. So we remain friends. And yeah, and I played with him at Bel Air. I took him to Bel Air plate. He took me to Hillcrest. I'm trying to think buddy hack it. I mean, when I think of buddy hack it, I only think of him as you know being on the Carson show. Yeah. And of course, he's in the film. It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world. But who wasn't in that film? You know, pretty much everybody but you and me. He was in a movie with me, buddy was called all hands on deck. Me, Barbara Eden and buddy, hack it. But he played. This was not typecasting. He played an Indian. Who had it back when you could get away with that. And he had a turkey for a mascot that he was hiding on the ship, an LST. And Dennis O'Keefe, me and Barbara Eden and buddy, hack it. And buddy, we're trying to keep this turkey hidden on the ship and keep it from the captain.

36:11And there was a scene. There was the, the, the director, a very funny man, the director had a scene in which buddy was supposed to be following me along the ship. And it was not an important scene, but it was, we were filming it. It doesn't sound like an important movie, but go ahead. He was following me with the turkey hiding the turkey and he bumps into me. He's supposed to bump into me. But, but he kept stopping before he got to me and the director. Oh gosh, I've let his name slip. But, but he was a comic director. He said, buddy, buddy, buddy. Several times, look, bump into Pat. Don't stop. You're supposed to bump into him. And buddy, he, so I took buddy aside. I said, look, because he was getting frustrated. Look, don't be worried about this. This is not an important scene. It's not going to be in the film. What's the name of the element? Norman Torrag, the director. And, and so this is not going to be in the film. So don't worry about it. And so then, buddy, why are you shooting a film?

37:18Why are you shooting a scene if it's not going to be in the film? I'm confused. Well, Norman thought it was funny. So, but when buddy, this is buddy hack it. When I told him it's not going to be in buddy said loudly to the director, a Norman batch as it said, this is not an important scene. It's not going to be in the scene. And so, Norman Torrag said, oh, Mr. Boone's editing the film now, is he? Let's do the scene and you bump into him. Okay, buddy, because this scene is going to be in the film. Sure enough, it is. Which meant nothing is in the film because of what buddy said, quoted me that I said it wasn't going to be in there. That was very accurate. But anyway, you can cut that out of the interview if you'd like. Why would I want to cut it out? You're doing the same thing. You're saying it's not going to be in the interview. Oh, yes, it is. Oh, yes, it is. You just do your job. So, well, we've only got a couple of minutes left, Pat. I want to talk to you about so many things, but we'll have to just have you back because you, but you have been busy, though. I have to say, you really do stay busy.

38:27I'm amazed, actually. Well, things as you know, I think that in the riots in 2020, I wrote a song camp. We get along. And I got a lot of artists. It was a we're the world type thing. And it was popular for. Oh, for a couple of weeks, maybe Wendy Moton, the beautiful singer, black singer, sang it. But we had many other artists that also joined in. But then it's forgotten. I mean, it did the same thing as we are the world. But we're the world somehow manages to be remembered. But our song, which was just my song, one. No, I can't we get along. Then a later, I wrote another song called one. One, we are one, like no other. No, I am one. I don't know. I bet we'll bother singing it for you. But one, that has trying to bring us together. Like, well, no, no, not we are the world like the guitar player, who's sang with his guitar with this song.

39:31Oh gosh. Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan wrote with his guitar and harmonica a song that. That that would help shape our thinking, calling us to our senses in the 70s. And I knew we needed another sound like that. So I wrote another song like that called Where did America go? And it's and I used the Paul. If you really want to hit the charts with a song like that, the key is getting Cindy Lauper's involvement. That's pretty much the key. And that she was she was somewhere else at the time. We did get a lot of people though. She's still somewhere else at the time, just to be clear. We got we have to go, but I want to ask you, I mentioned this to you. And I'll say this to my audience. We're doing a, I mentioned this to you on the phone. We're doing a very kind of high end luxury cruise in the Mediterranean next summer. It's at the end of August next summer. We're going to be going to it's in the sea cloud. We're going to Corsica and Sardinia. And I think we're stopping at Elba.

40:42But I got to tell you anybody who's interested in this. It's very kind of high end. It's because there's only a hundred people I think can do it. But I said I got to mention this on the air today. Go to Socrates in the city.com. You can find out the information. Socrates in the city.com and Pat, we're going to try to get you to come on this. I don't know if we'll succeed. But I just want to hang out with you really. That's what you want to invite me already. I don't know if you forgot, but you didn't. I know that's what I'm saying. I spoke to you about it. I just think that. And we just, and it just be fun. I've done it before I loved it. And, and you know, I, I tell you what though, I borrow a statement for long, long gone friend of mine. I don't buy green bananas. I'm not going to buy it because I'm 92. And so, you know, but if I am around and can still walk. And therefore I could, I could get along on a ship. I'd like to go. So I would try to join you. Yeah. Well, we'll, we'll circle back with you on that. We're going to, we're going to have to leave it.

41:54I knew this would happen is that we haven't begun to talk about 55 other things. We'll just have you back soon, Pat. If you don't mind. And we'll talk about all those other things when we have you back in the meantime. God bless you. And thanks for coming on. And listen, thanks so much for writing this book on the American Revolution. It's fantastic. Thank you. Hey there, folks. I've been saying that 2026 must be the year of accountability, whether talking about government spending or the way we steward our own families. We have a moral duty to seek the truth. But let's be honest, in the world of Medicare, truth is often the first casualty seniors like my 91 year old mom are bombarded with mailers and pushy phone calls that feel more like propaganda than helpful guidance. This is why I value my partners at chapter. They operate on a different principle independence chapter is the only national advisor that reviews every single plan available to ensure you have the coverage that actually fits your needs.

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