2026 Biltmore Championship & BMW PGA Championship Picks, Bets & Odds

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1:07Welcome to the Pat Mayo experience presented by Underdog, the PGA Torsies. And it's back. We took that long layoff. But now we're back. We got the built more championship at the Cliffs. That's the PGA event. Wentworth is going on on the DP World Tour, the BMW PGA championship. Solheim Cup was last weekend. So Keith, you know, one some money on that. That's always good news. And then he got Presidents Cup coming up next week. Keith, we got a ton going on here. Yeah, I'm not quite sure why everyone keeps calling this an off season. I know the PGA tour, the big names haven't played in a couple weeks. But there's plenty to talk about in golf. I mean, and you skipped over Shane Lowry. I mean, what an unbelievable win that was. Nice hit for anybody that had 25 to one per week in the guy one by 11. I had the guy who came in second. So we're starting the new season off the same way that we had all season. Well, generally, I don't cover the DP World Tour. But for the golf channel guys, they had me do a pick. So I picked Shane. I took the Irish, I took the Irish bear in Ireland to go figure and it worked out.

2:09Winds by 11. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? He's 63 on Sunday when he was already had like a five shot lead. It was pretty good. I went into the weekend. I had Houtong in second place. He was like four back. I was like, oh, how talk probably make a move here? Wrong. I was dead wrong about that. You mean, you made a move to the like bottom of the leaderboard. Yeah. How talk fell out of that leaderboard quick. But you know, kudos to Patrick Reed coming into a big week at the BMW where he like has played really, really well before. You know, he finishes runner up and you know, he got to sit up in the luxury box with Trump for the to watch Shane come in. Well, I will be betting Patrick Reed again this week as I did last week. So that's going to be my my at least one of my plays for the BMW championship. I'll put all of the bets in the newsletter, which will probably come out on Tuesday afternoon as we try to finalize everything. We're going to talk through the betting board, do it a little bit different than we normally do throughout the course of the year because we got to ton the talk about. And oh, I did a show with Michael Kim.

3:09That's going to be up for members. If you're just you know, we missed the past few weeks that there's now memberships on YouTube. There's going to be some private shows. Everyone will get a chance to watch that show. It'll come out next week on the public feed, but it's already done. I was saving it for then. So if you want to watch my interview with Michael Kim, where we talk about Siwoo getting lost on that the rocket mortgage, we talked about it season champions versus challenger tour and how that's going to affect a lot of people in terms of what they do during the fall swing to get into the signature events and just a ton. So it's always fun talking to Michael Kim. Keith, it's a good time. It's not quite as much fun as talking to you, but it's close. Well, you know what Pat, to your credit, when I talk to Michael Kim, this year out on tour, he says he loves doing shows with you. He's you know, his audience there on X seems to grow every time he talks to you. So man, all the credit in the world to you, it seems like you get him to talk about some good things and you guys always have a great fun conversation. And there's always really good nuggets in there for those that pay attention. Well, we are, we actually did joke. Well, I joke like, yeah, you have five million Twitter followers now.

4:12How about happen? He's like, you know, I just woke up one day and there's like four million more or four, four point five million more than I used to have. Like, I don't know, he's like, I'll take it. He's like, I don't think any of them are real, but sure. I doubt there's a golf vendor that would actually check that they are bots. So the guy jumps to five million. Next thing, you know, his pip fee would be like, you know, quadruple. Good for him. Yeah. So let's go, let's talk about the, do you want to have the soul home cup at all? Because I saw that you, yeah, at least your Saturday was awesome. Let's see, Friday matches were good two and one. Saturday was good two and one and then Sunday, cleared it in a couple props, you know, pre, pre-cut props. And then Sunday, I'll basically broke even, but we had the Europe to win it all. So I think we're up three units on the week, which was, you know, and something like that that was that close. I mean, I know no one was watching it in the Netherlands. And it was on, you know, you barely caught the tail end of the second matches on Friday, Saturday and Sunday morning. But the theater was pretty good.

5:13This thing every single time these ladies go head to head, again, it's the, it's the women's version of the Ryder Cup. So it's players from Europe, 12 of them, same format and 12 players from the United States. Over the last like decade or so, this thing has been really, really close. It's been fun to watch if you just like competitive like team golf. Did you catch much of the Irish at all? So I would have watched more of the Irish, but I had Shane and he kept just distancing his lead. So I saw some of the weather on Thursday. That was enjoyable. But then once Friday kicked in, I paid more of attention to the Soulheim Cup, because I was betting that live. And I just wanted to like win as many of those head to heads as you could. And those matches are tough. But we got some really nice plus odds on a couple of those upsets, which was fun. And we got a new course on the PGA tour. We're in Asheville, North Carolina. It's played an elevation, by the way. It's like 2200 feet of elevation. The cliffs at Walnut Cove is the course, the par 71, 7249 yards. But at elevation, that's going to play pretty short.

6:16I'm guessing the front is a little bit open. The back is like super treeline. And according to the ground skipper, they grew out the rough to six inches. I find that hard to believe six inches. So there's a couple things going on there. The elevation is a big deal, because this golf course is short to begin with. And they're playing it as a par 71. The scorecard, which I love to dive into, has five par threes, four par fives at 7200 yards. And it has nine par fours. But for every thousand feet pad, it's about 1.2% of carry increase that you get. So these guys are going to look at about two and a half percent of a carry increase. And one other thing I'll add is that they flip the nines on the official scorecard. So they're going to play the back nine as the front and the front nine as the back. And they say, yeah, well, the front nine for them playing it, I believe, is the open part. Then you go basically into the forest and go trek, trek, go trek. You might run to Robin Hood when you're out there. But it looks like a really cool course. So I spoke to a couple people that played the media day. And that was about a month ago in July and July, they got it just an exorbitant amount of rain.

7:21And they said that that day, the golf course was almost unplayable. It was so wet. But going along with what you just mentioned, the rough was extremely grown out. And it was very, very wet that day. Balls were plugging everywhere. It just had rained week after week after week in July. But they haven't seen very much rain down there in the last three weeks or so. And it's been super, super hot. There's been a heat wave that's kind of come through the caroline is there and mid-America. So I'm hopeful that they have the rough and a height that they feel like is kind of penal. It's probably the only thing that could hold these guys back. And then that the golf course is drying out a little bit. You know, it's got some really cool elevation changes up and down, even sitting up on top of the mountain. Yeah, and there's a lot of elevation change in between the holes as well. Like you go from one green up to a tee box back down, then I might be back down, then back up. So I like that they're picking different styles of courses. And it may be able to use this as a test drive for the fall swing that you do run into a position of the year where every course kind of starts to look the same.

8:26And it's not fun to watch to bet on. It's probably easier because you're getting similar courses like time after time and time again. But just to tune in, especially going against football, when no one's really going to be watching golf anyway, just like to flick past golf. And I'm like, oh, that looks pretty cool. Maybe I'll stay here for a bit. I think that there's something to that to draw the eye in. I totally agree. And as we push forward to this two series kind of run sort of thing, I think the Irish Open represents one of those international events that they could bring into the tour. Similar to the, you know, we talked about the Canadian open going to the fall. They already go to Japan. Like the Irish Open was a great event this week. The golf course that they played there, up there in Dunebag. It just just a really, really kind of contrast. So then if you are flipping the channels and you saw that, and you all saw the wind blowing and everything, you're like, wow, that's something cool I would tune into. And I think you're going to see a very beautiful golf course this week. And anything new on the PGA tour might attract people's attention. I think if they feel like a couple of years ago,

9:28when Black Desert dropped, everyone was like, man, this is a lava field. Look how cool this place is. Look at the red mountains in the background. I think you're going to get a lot of that this week. And I think that that would help attract, again, neither one of us believe it's going to attract a ton of attention. But I think it would help. And sometimes some of these places in the fall just kind of feel like Rince Rewind repeat. And I am excited for Asheville this week. So what do you think that these skills that we need to go out here? Just by watching the overview of the course, seeing what the layout is. And you mentioned the five par of threes, four par of fives, which leads what, nine par of fours. You don't see that all that often. Even as a par of 71, I think you're going to want your accuracy and iron players. Like it really brings a lot more of the field. Maybe there is someone that can overwhelm it off the tee. But it does seem like if you're off the beaten path too much here, regardless if it's dry or not, that it's going to be pretty penal. If you're not playing from the fairway and spin and wedges into every single hole.

10:29Are you disagreeing? No, no, like no, I agree with all of that. I guess I was going to say, like, you know, everyone's going to talk about this as a jacknickelist golf course. And as far as you're building out the skill set, the first thing they're going to do, they're like, oh, what are the jacknickelist golf courses on tour? Then you go P.J. National. They're going to go to Mirafield. Maybe they'll throw in a little Valhalla. And it's like, I don't see this golf course having any of those skills required for there. Right? I see this as being pretty much like a bomb and gouge type golf course, to be honest with you. I feel like it's going to be something like, well, maybe not complete bomb and gouge. But definitely like a wedge fest. You know, yes, the par threes are going to be somewhat challenging. And there's five of them. And they all sit right around 200 yards. That's great. I mean, the 11th hole is a very cool hole, which I guess would be the second hole. It drops like 60 feet in elevation. It's like 180 yard shot. So that'll play much shorter. But like for the most part, I think that you have like two buckets for accuracy on approach.

11:30And that's always been kind of like jacks thing. So like, what are jack trends? If we can't use the golf courses on the P.J. tour, what are jack trends? Like, jack used to love to drive the ball. So he's faders of the golf ball, not drawers of the golf ball. Faders of the golf ball. But he gives you a plenty of room off the tee. Right now, you might not always get to hit driver, but he's going to give you a generous landing area somewhere. And then from there, he's going to give you greens, because he loves approach play that are either very shallow or they have some kind of tears so that you have to hit the right shelf. So I think you really got to start with approach play. And I think there's two buckets there. I think there's from like 100 to 150, or maybe even it's like 100 to 125 with the elevation shift. And then you're going to have shots over 200 yards. Again, which those guys from elevation are hitting sixes and seven irons, but still, I think those are your two buckets to pay attention to. And then anytime you have 130 plus rookies go into a golf course, I think putting really matters. They're bent grass greens. You're going to have to pay attention to, and why do you pay attention to good putters?

12:32Because they can do two things very, very well. They can read greens and their good putters to begin with. And if everyone's starting from scratch, those guys haven't decided edge. Interesting. You know, when you're thinking about different courses that we could look at, especially with field strength, we do have some of the presidents cup guys playing this week, because they want to get in for next week and get some extra reps. And especially the international team, as we'll find out here in a second, that the Isco championship would be the course that I'd be looking at the most here. I think that that's a good one. It's a really great comp for this. Would be TPC River Highlands, but none of these guys playing. None of these guys play in that field. I think that Sedgefield would be good. Outside of the fact that it's Bermuda Grass again. What are you trying to do there? You're trying to attack, you're hitting a lot of long irons and short irons at Sedgefield. I also like Silverado North. I also like the Mertle Beach event. I think each one of those, they both have a decent amount of accuracy

13:32when it comes on approach that you're hitting small-ish style greens from around the same range buckets. So those would be a couple for me. TPC Dear Run is also one, which does challenge you a little bit more off the tee than I think this place will. But again, small greens and you have to hit you know, accurate irons shots and you have bankgrass. Well, if we jump over to the odds board, you can use code sports200 at coolbet.com get yourself a deposit bonus. I think I want the entire year, Keith, without hitting one of my golfer boost. Week one football, 15 to one boost on the same game, Parley. Instant hit. That's just how this works. I guess the trend is your friend then. What do we got? Who's the cool bet bet of the week this week? This is what we need to find out. I got to figure out who I'm going to bet. Coivan is the overwhelming favorite at 12 to 1. Then he got Bridgeman at 18. Gim Rasmus Hoi Guard, Ben James, my guy Ben James. Davis Thompson, they're all 25 to 1. Poston, Cole, Connors, and Bo Hossler are coming in just behind that.

14:33Right around 30, 35 to 1. Then he got Nakajima, Mac Meisner, Kevin Yu. And then you're into our guy blades, Brown. My guy Piss and Coody, and he's like, Bizzaden Hout. He's at Sunay, Johnny Keifer, Michael Kim. They're all just kind of sitting there. Is there any one name that just kind of leaps out to you? Because there was for me weirdly enough. And I did find him as low as 33 to 1 as JT Poston. So, all right, let me answer the question first. You said, is there any name that jumped out to you? As soon as I saw the odds board, I was looking for Ben James. Because there's two things that Ben James does really well. He's a really good iron player and he's a really good putter. And then I looked at the number and I was like, all right, pump the brakes. We're going to need to maybe rethink about how we're going to do this this week. And then you're going to get your Davis Thompson's and these other guys that are like these really short numbers. But they also have like, like Davis Thompson can't put. Right? So if it was just an approach fest, man, that's good, that's a good thing. Then I started thinking about both. And then I started thinking about who wins in the fall? Because there's this break.

15:33And then who gets re-energized for the fall? And I want to get your feedback on this. How do you feel about guys that have been playing Cornfairy or DP versus the guys we haven't seen since Sedgefield? I don't, because the talent gap, generally speaking, is pretty large. Like last year we saw what? We saw Michael Brennan come off the Canadian tour and win at Black Desert, which I think was the second start of the fall. And what, Scotty won the first one, didn't he? Scotty won the first one before the rider cup. Over Ben Griffin who three putted the last hole and gave me another runner up. Not that I remember that. But Scotty won the first one, yes he did. So then after that, I don't really remember. Was it a lot of Cornfairy guys or was it like your general plotters? Because I know that Ben Griffin won in Mexico. I lost Kenaya in Bermuda because Adam Shank won, putting one handed, that was fine. Yeah, I remember who won the other ones. Well, he had the flying fin, Sammy Valamaki won the RSM, right?

16:33Is Andrew one Japan? Over Grazerman, right? But for the most part, there are, there's a collection of guys in the fall that generally show up even after the break. And JT Poston is one of them. You know, he's won in Vegas before. And this is a JT Poston style golf course. And you know, not that this golf course is really near anything, it's not, I mean, it's two hours west of Charlotte. I mean, I don't even know where that would be. Like, what do they film? Deliverance to there? I mean, seriously, like, you are way the heck out there in the mountains and it's this beautiful landscape. But like, I don't know that there's anyone that maybe lives in North Carolina that even gets out there very often. But I think JT might be one of those guys, maybe an Alex Smalley or something like that. Really good, you know, guys that are proven that they contend in Poston's one in the fall before. So my eye was drawn to Poston. Much like many people right now, I'm always trying to do my best to get enough protein, but without having to figure out what I'm making for dinner every single night. That's why butcher box has been amazing.

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21:40And it's just so short and there's so many scoring opportunities. Survive the par three, score the par five, and the par four is on average. Are... Well, I don't think there's one par four over four sixty-pack. Well, that's that's going to play into the hands of... Where is it? I got to... Now I got to find out where he is on the betting board. Because I always spell his name wrong, so that makes it more difficult for me. Muau. Where's the chairman? Where's William Mao? Oh, William Mao. Oh, yeah. He's 80 to one. That's a bet. I mean, like, like, again, and I think the Esco is a great, is a great comp. For sure. And he's obviously that's where his one win came in his career. But even just looking back on it like right now, we'll take a look at Mao. I'm just using vetsportscarf.com, the rabbit hole. His accuracy has gone down, but his approach play has gone really up. And a guy who does both really well and ended the season pretty strong. A guy that we actually talked about on our recapture. If you missed the PGA Awards, you know, hit up the feed. Go back to last week and you can watch that with Keith Jeff in myself.

22:42But Zach Bao Shu seems if he can hit some fairways here, we'll just attack. I think everyone's going to attack. And to get back to like the conversation I was kind of starting about, you know, you mentioned something interesting that I want to kind of circle back to. And that you said, you're like, well, the talent level in this field. When I think about talent level and I think about the guys that have been playing golf, and that might play with a little bit of a chip on their shoulder this week, there's two guys that come to mind. One is Raspus Hogard and the other one is Marco Penge. Both of them playing very, very good. And the first question I had when I saw them in the field is, why are they here and why are they not at wet worth? Because you get FedEx Cup points. That's what they want to play on the PGA tour. Well, I get that. But that's also the wet worth is the flagship European tour event of the season. It is, it is their players championship, let's say, right? Like for those guys to come over after, let's see what Raspus, he played this past week in Ireland and then two weeks ago in the Omega's,

23:44when's last time the penge played, but those guys are both playing really, really good golf. And those are the types of guys that could like steamroll this golf course and just easily get to 20 under. So I have more attention than that area because those guys have way more talent in my mind than some of these people do at the top of the board that we're looking at there that are at odds that are far lower than them. Yeah, I thought that was somewhat interesting, but I guess it depends on how you cap this course because the two, like they are both equally good at the same thing is that they will just dominate courses off the tee that if this allows for the Brian Gays of the world, that type of player to compete, it feels like their advantage is completely lost, unless they break the course with their driving, which I don't think that you can do here. That's Ali's my take. Looking at the layout, I think there are opportunities to hit some drivers and to take advantage of some length and the way that the modern PGA tour works, we don't have a lot of permutives.

24:45We just don't. And even when you look at a place like TPC River Highlands or deer run or whatever, these guys just go after it with driver. It's just the way that they think. It's what I see week after week, I'm always like, oh, this is a positional place. And then you've got, you know, Wyndham Clark shooting 61 at Pebble because he hits driver everywhere, right? Like, and I'm like, how many times am I am I not going to pay attention to this? It's a hold on. The Wyndham Clark thing, I think, is a bit unfair because in that round, where he shot 61, I think he made 400 feet of puts. Okay, then I'll throw him out. You know, how about Ludwig was there that week, right? He hits driver everywhere. And maybe he's an outlier to Pat. Maybe you're right. But like, I look at these guys like Marco Penn choose playing well, like playing very, very well. The ball striking is extremely good. Same thing with Rasmus. Rasmus gets a little wild off the tee, but like these guys are playing good golf. You put them on a golf course that you and I are used to playing in the length of, like, it should be pitch and putt for these guys. And for me, there's just, it seems like there's a lot less variables that

25:50need to take place. The same thing with like Ben James, you know, guys that can move the ball out there are great approach players and can putt. I mean, that's that's where I take Davis Thompson off of my list, you know, and I guess that's why the brokers are putting Jackson Coivan at the top of their list, right? Because he does check all those boxes. As you mentioned, I just don't feel like he's that much of a favorite over some of these guys talent wise. Now, I would agree with you, especially at a course, like, I get why he's the betting. If you're going to get people to bet on this event, be like, hey, who's the one guy that people are like kind of hyped up about? And it's Jackson Coivan put him at the top. People about him, regardless. I can't recall the last because this I'm treating this more like an alt field event that the ones that we've had on throughout the course of the year, whether it be Corralis or Puerto Rico, the Isco or Mortal Beach, as you pointed out, that the like young hot shot rarely wins those events. You're more likely to get Brent Snediger winning that type of guy than the young hot shot guy. You know, the way you bring that up, like the last one I could think of it, be God or

26:53up. But nobody really knew who he was at that. I mean, they knew who he was, but he wasn't really like the hot shot when he did that at Mertle, but you're right. Like more often than not, we get somebody that just kind of makes sense for the design and the layout of the golf course. And from what it seems like, it's going to play somewhat softer tacky. We're going to have a decent amount of rough. But if you compound it 320, it still puts a wedge in your hand. And you have to play the par three as well. So if you start to break it down that way, then, you know, let me see, I'd Kevin you you have any you want any stock and Kevin you this week? Probably not because you said you had to make a few puts. You do. Yeah, I think you're going to have to. All right. I got three. I got two more here than I wonder. I mentioned Bowshoe. I'm going to bet post and Ann Mow. Those ones are in already. But I got Emiliano Grillo, who can put sometimes, it does the other two things really well. And then Taylor Pendrith, who was second at the Esco, and outside of his win, which was that Craig Ranch, the majority of his good work on Taurus come at these really

27:57short courses. So you don't think the Taylor Pendrith, I know you I'm opening myself up to be made fun of here, but you don't think the Taylor Pendrith is going to spend more time this week thinking about next week and his five players that are there, rather than his own game. Yeah, I think that he's going to think about his own game and he's not going to be thinking about rooting on his countryman next week. Well, he watches from home. Oh, sorry. He's the assistant captain. He's a vice captain. Right. Great. Yeah. Now he's going to try to win this. That's my point. Like he's got the guys got shit to do, right? Like he's he's he's being constantly text by Obleley, right? And he's he's he's the probably the only vice captain from that team that's on property there in Asheville. So he's got to keep an eye on his five guys. He has to monitor and give reports back on how they're playing each and every day. Like I just don't think that gives him a lot of time. I get where you're coming from and the methodology totally makes sense, but in this one little vacuum, where next week he

28:58has all these responsibilities and he's got his two Canadian brother in there. Like Nick Taylor has a lot of questions around his name, like going into this president's cup. It's like Nick, how do we get you playing even better getting ready and like can Corey make some puts and like where do we stand with those five guys? I mean like the guy with the biggest heat under his behind his name, going into this thing is Rio, his at Sunay. And like nobody even knows who that guy is on their side. Like C. Bez needs to be playing well. You've got Nico who did have a nice little summer late summer run there. But I just feel like Pendrance is going to have a lot more on his plate than just being able to like go out there and roll over Ben Coles. I'll see Jacob. I'm if Ben Coles can put another good Ben Coles course of great Ben Coles. But what happened to the guy's putter? Same thing like I mean, we're all going to it seems like we would all bet blades Brown here and he goes with my theory. He's been playing corn fairy. He's been playing like braid blades Brown golf, but the putter hasn't been that great. The ball striking is still exemplary, but the putting hasn't been that great much like

30:00Coles. Well, I would have more faith. I mean, let's probably just let's admit it. We're just going to bet blades Brown every week in the fall, aren't we? We are. Yes. So yeah, so we're in on blades Brown. I have more confidence that his putter will come back because at least we've at least he's shown a modicum of talent with the flat stick. This Ben Coles current run that he was on during the summer may have been the first time he's ever made a three foot putt in his life. Yeah, I mean, we had this argument about Cam Young was Cam Young just a good putter for six months? Or was he always a good putter? Because then like the putting went away could be the same thing with Ben Coles could be the exact same thing. Was he only a good putter for like nine weeks or is he more true to form his DNA is that he's just not a very good putter and he's a great ball striker and that's why he flirts back and forth between the two tours. Well, you said the greens are bent and I'm seeing them as bent with the poa like overseas on the my assume that's not in bloom right now. So it is just pure bent or is it going to be a mix? Well, I would think that the

31:01poa is all burnt out because it's summertime. I mean, it's been like 90 plus down there. So up there in the mountains and elevation, I've granted that part of North Carolina, they're definitely not playing any like border season or winter golf. Like they would down towards the beach. But like in my mind, I got to figure that at this point the bent is just flourishing. You know, maybe not flourishing because it is 95, but the the poa seems to me like it'd be all burnt out. Well, it's just when I talk about Nico because again, another shorter course that Nico tends to perform really well on past palms, slow greens and bermuda with the overseas, which tends to slow them down a little bit that it's just if it's going to be all bent, I know it's a weird thing to cross someone off for, but just he has not shown the ability to make pots. Yeah, for all those reasons, I do think I'll go back to it every time that I go to a new course for the LPGA or the PGA tour, you have to put extra weight on putting because they're all reading the greens, they're all getting used to the speed for the first time and they're all trying to make pots. Well, those are three characteristics

32:04that guys that lead Strokes game putting, you know, list on the PGA tour do, right? On a weekly basis. Doesn't it really Jacob Bridgeman, we're not worried about whether it's permute. I mean, like maybe like for splitting hairs, but overall, the guys the best putter on the PGA tour or Sam Burns, continually a top five putter, maybe they're a little better at one type of grass, but overall, they can basically put anywhere, whether they see it for the first time or not. So to your point, I'm looking back at the past eight months and right now Strokes game putting leaders, Bridgeman's number one Vince Waley, Denny, obviously, Bo Haasler and Eric Cole are your top five who are in the field this week. Oh, good Canadian. Probably the guy they should have taken this guy, they should have taken Yellow Maraju and AJ Eward, who is sixth in punting. Maybe you have a guy who can make a putt on your president's cup team. Merit, C-Bez, Michael Kim, Mac Hughes, EVR, Chandler Phillips, Phillips have been playing some decent golf. This is a good Michael Kim course, TPC-D or run.

33:05Right? Interesting. Well, he did say that he thought that he thought that he played a lot better than his results ended up this year. There was a couple of weeks where he's like, I was striping it, just nothing fell my way. He's like, the weeks where I potted, I couldn't ballstrike, the weeks I was ballstriking, I couldn't putt. I was like, have you done your scouting report? He's like, I've never even heard of this course before. Yeah, and none of them are really going to do a scouting report until they show up. And but these guys are, they're very, very good at learning golf courses within a day or two and just understanding the shots that are required. And this elevation adjustment, even though it is an adjustment, isn't like when they're going out to black desert or something like that. So I think that I think that if Michael Kim is playing Michael Kim golf, like, and he's happy with his game, that he'll be right up there because he fits the mold. Yeah. And what do you think the winning score will be at this course? Because I am having a tough time wrapping my head around it. I don't think it's going to be a shootout. Like minus 17, maybe yet you're the win. It all depends on how soft it is. If they haven't been able to

34:09remove the rain from July, if the if the recent hot weather has been too humid in the place still remains gluing and sticky, then, and I think you're going to be looking at a Vegas over underlying of like 19 or 20. But if it if it does have some bounce to it and the guys bounce through some of these dog-like corners and they're in the rough and you know, they're still hitting wedges on, but they can't control their distance as well. Then I think that you could get something in the high teams. But I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be one of those two cases. It just depends on how much bounce we see this week. You know, what what the superintendents capable of doing as far as firming this place up. They nine inches of rain in July, Pat, in the month of July. It's a loss. That's a while ago now. They haven't they've had traces of rain in August. So they've had their chance to dry it out. I'm not saying that these guys can't win, but there's a whole collection of guys that I rattled off off the top like the 25 to 40 guys. They're like all the same guy. Like Ben James stuck out to me too. But I'm not going to bet him at 25 to one. Like, would you really want

35:12to bet Doug Gim at 25 to one? Like I would like a great head-to-head matchup this week would be Doug Gim versus Davis Thompson. Like who could who could not suck the most with the putter? Like is like, what do we come down to? It's like, oh, Doug Gim. He only lost four strokes with the putter and Davis lost five. So like he's going to win that matchup. Like the guys would strike it beautifully. And then like if you're walking around with them like you were going to coach you just like you'd walk to the next t-box. You wouldn't watch the green like you just go nuts. So like I think there's too many hole or there's that that one hole for some of those guys. And I think that's why you feel that way about that range. I think there's some great opportunities in like the 40 to 60 range because that's where you're going to find again like Hogard or Cole or Penn or it could be Mac Miser's final week to break through. You know like there's some guys there that you feel like you can see it happened in here for that guy but they're all sitting in that range. Everybody down there in the 20s like they kind of like make me shudder a little bit. Well,

36:14depending on what you're seeing in terms of odds, I have Rasmus Hogard right now is the third favorite in this tournament on the betting board. He's 30 down here. He's 25 here. Oh well, he's 30 down here. But Penn just 40 though like he's super grazerman. That's an like you're right. Johnny Keifers another one but also another guy who can't put. Kudy Ken Putt. I don't know what's going on with him. Like can we can we get him back to what he was doing in January and February last year? Well, the fall see well like like late fall into winter seem to be like his runtime last year. And again, there's just guys in the fall that seem to always pop. And it's like year after year, Bo Hassler's another guy. He's gains a ton of strokes in the fall. Grio at Grio, you know, you keep bringing up Grio. Grio is like triggering me. You know, it's like so many times I bet him this year that he was like perfect fit for the golf course and he just, you know, what is he finished like T12 and you're like, man, you were right there. Billy Horses playing in this field. Steven Fisk won the IZCO. He won in the fall last two years

37:18ago at Sanderson. Yeah. Should we be looking at him? Because I just can't wrap my mind around him making enough putts to win. But he's done it twice already. So why not? Yeah. You know, Horses on my list of guys I was going to ask you about before we teetered back and forth. But like Horses won the BMW twice in the last what five years, four years. And he didn't go over there and he did like a social media post. And he was like, almost in tears. Like I'm not going to go to Wentworth. I'm going to go to North Carolina and support the PGA tour instead. Like how much money? How much furniture does that guy need that he's going out to like Asheville North Carolina or something? Like how much money is the tour pay him to show up? I don't know, man. Like it seems crazy to me that he's not a wet worth. He's a two time defending champs since 2021. Well, from what I, I glean from my interview with Mike was that these guys are very concerned like this. This the ability to get in to the two first signature events of the year to set your eye and those I believe are both

38:18no cut, which means automatic FedEx Cup points, which means you are that much closer to being a lock for the champions tour, not the challengers tour means a lot to these guys. You'll get a cut at Genesis. The first tour 18T in Genesis. So Pebble and Riv, you'll get Tiger has a cut like the bigger events do like Bay Hill and Mirfield Village. But like if you're playing good, you should be able to make that cut. You know, it's that top 50 out of 72 guys. But I'm telling you that 51 to 60 is going to make some guys play this fall that you normally wouldn't see show up. That's a huge carrot out there. And I don't need Michael Kim to tell me that. Those guys have been talking about tour points since they talked about the two since the two tiers came out at travelers. There's been like an undercurrent of conversation amongst all the players when you're out there walking around. Is it like they're actually worried about points and no one's been worried about FedEx points for 20 plus years. And now all of a sudden the players are worried about it. So the players are worried about it. Then then you're going to get the media worried about it, which is

39:18which is a good conversation for them to have because some people might might actually go play at Bermuda other than you know Adam Shank in the crew. Speed in Bermuda. I mean by the way, another course where Taylor Pendereth gagged away a win that like five thousand yard course. Oh yeah. Yeah. And yeah. Bermuda was so much fun last year when when I mean I know. I know. But if you just take a step back and you weren't wagering on it, the weather on the final day was so much fun to watch those guys like fight because those holes. If there's no win, they're like 380 yards long. They're like driving every green if they want. And you know the guys were hit and like you know low low irons, the flight to ball and everything like that. That's that's stuff. It's like so much fun to watch. And I think here because of the elevation changes, you're going to get to see a little bit of the shaping of the golf ball, which would be fun for a new venue. So looking at David Ford is back. There we go. He's a hundred and one. You know, I did

40:22look at at 150 to one because I do it. What's that? At 150 to one. Yeah. David's chat field. It's not Davis chat field. Well, maybe I should be looking at Davis chat field. Now 150 to one. He's someone that's hurt my feelings a bunch over the past like three years. But this is a hymn style golf course. The question just remains. Can this be the one time that he does it every time in two years where he makes a bunch of butts for. He's a major champion. Lucas Glover, Lucas Glover. He's been badly. But you know, I don't think that matters. Fair enough. Like where did we get him? I know that he had the the wind him and the St. Jude back-to-back. I think it was three years ago now. But during this stretch, like I bet him at the Isco, I think you did too. And it just did really did not inspire a ton of confidence in him going forward. But he had a really nice run on the go. And then it just kind of went away.

41:24Like he played 3M, then he played Rocket. He didn't play the wind him champion. So I don't know if he got hurt or what happened. But even in his 3M star, his approach game was absolutely lights out. He made the cut. And then he's had a terrible rocket that he took the rest of the year off. I think this course is really geared for his skill set. I mean his last win other than the two you mentioned was John Deere. And I think TPC Deere run is a great comp for this. So I mean it's the same style golf course. Like weven through the trees. You have these like kind of quirky dog legs. You can either be aggressive or you'd be conservative. And then you have small greens that you're going to have to be able to put on and you know get to the high teens. So I mean if there's if there's one thing we've known for 600 plus starts for for Lucas Glovers that he could strike the golf ball. He's not going to miss a lot of targets. It's just you know whether or not he can make any puts under under 10 feet is very suspect. Past two years bent grass punning Vince Waley, best player in the field. You know what is what are Vince Waley's odds?

42:29Ramblin wrecked from Georgia Tech. Vince Waley's 300 to one. That sounds like that sounds like a wager to me. Vince sanity running wild at the cliffs. Can we get some recent history on Vince? I know I don't feel like I should look at that. I feel like that will only sour my opinion of this 300 to one best. Can I give you half 150 at Davis Chatfield? Can I talk you into that or maybe a Davis Chatfield like 100 to one on on Thursday only? I got talked into Davis Chatfield at that some point over the past. Oh boy, this is not good. Oh okay. Well okay, well let's pump the brakes a little bit here. It's only been six ms cuts in his past seven starts. That's not bad. You made the cut last time out at the Albert Sins Boise open presented by Chevron. Hey, I mean, here's the thing. You're talking about major champions from 2009. Yesterday the Jets and the Giants for the first time since 09, one on opening day. So I mean, anything that happened, we can go back in time. Your commandos couldn't win. Oh come on, dude.

43:34I mean, you just can't. Phil Delphy is a good team. You cannot just give points away. We missed a field goal. We missed an extra point. We lose by two. Unbelievably. That's like. Anyway, we'll move on. We would not. Other very good putters on bent grass. Coivan is up there, although that's in a very limited amount of starts. Although most of the courses that he played in the back half of the season were all bent grass greens. True. True. You know, everyone talks about, you know, that it's crazy that the ball striking has been so good for him, but everyone said he's the best college putter they've seen in the last decade. So at some point, that putter is going to pop. And when it does. And I mean, he's he's another one of those guys. It definitely is looking at that 51 to 60. I think he's going to play a bunch in the fall, until he probably wins again or get some self a couple top fives and then he guarantees that he's in that bracket because you know, he's making plans to go to Pebble in February. You know what? I mean, on Chatfield, just super accurate, good putter, good irons. He ranks

44:38actually top 15 in bent grass putting as well. I mean, that's that's why my interest was there because you get down into that stretch. You know, there's some names down there. So, believe me, this is bleeds brown. Grio is inside the top 30 in bent grass putting. I mean, this is a perfect Grio place like Silverado was it. I thought it's another good cop. You just have to hit it A to B. Yeah. All day long makes a putts in fairness to Grio when he won it Silverado. It was still the fries calm open. So it's been a while for him. Yeah, but he wanted colonial a couple of years ago. He did and he should have won at John Deere when I had him in a playoff against Brian Campbell last year too. That should have happened. I remember that now. We did have. I had the past two years at the John Deere. I've had Grio and fucking Ben Coles like it's that tournament. It's not good for me. Taking a vacation at the John Deere next year. Is that even on the schedule? Is that gone? The John Deere is still on the schedule. That's good.

45:39Not for Aaron. Aaron Wise was the thing for like two weeks. Aaron Wise has some crazy stats because he anyone that runs a model. He pops up for certain searches and I mean former PJ Tour winner. If you like he had it going on at the isco and then he parlayed that over into the next week and then he just fell off a cliff again. No, he had a, I'm going to say a decent because that's a a wide ranging term. But he had a decent stretch run there where he was making some cuts and he had some good rounds. Not good tournaments, but he had some good rounds and you're like, oh, well, maybe the sky'll get back to the point where like he was contending in, you know, lower tier events, but we just haven't seen it since then. John Deere Classic 39, T3 at the isco, then he was cut at the 3M. I mean, you may miss the cut at the rocket, but he gained over two and a half strokes T degree in per round despite missing the kind he just could not. He could not figure out those greens. No, and you know, if you remember him back in the day, he was like a ball strike in Jesse and the guy

46:40who the guy was out there with a lot of different putters like your boy, like our boy Lucas. Yeah. Yeah, I feel better about Lucas in a weird way. Maybe not as good as I feel about Vince Waley. I'm just looking down the list at like 500 to one guys. And now we're still thinking about, we haven't answered the question on Billy Horshaw. Billy, Billy's up in the 60s. I got Billy at 50. 50. Okay. Um, good, great, great on paper course for him. I don't know what Billy Horshaw I'm getting here was last time Billy Horshaw was any good. Well, he won a year ago. Yeah, then he got hurt and he's been asked ever since. Yeah, I'm not betting on this week. I just can't figure out why that guy's there. You know, I'm telling you it's too, make sure that he tried. He needs to do anything he can to try to get on this challenger champion series. It's probably true. Yeah, I'm telling you, that's why all anytime you see someone like weird, like, especially as you mentioned, he's one that went worth twice. That would probably if he wins that, that probably elevates him

47:42up to like 30th in the world or something like that, even with the comeback that he's on. I think that he looks at his world ranking. He looks at his FedEx Cup points. Obviously he has, I think a little bit of like injury stuff that medical is that exemption stuff if stuff should run out. But I think he still has his card for at least next year that you need to start seeing if you can at least get hot because again, I asked Mike. I was like, you know, if you just win this week or come like second, because he's 61st in the FedEx Cup right now, which we put him 11th on that list. Like, you know, when you're automatically just going to be inside the top 10 of where you need to be, like even a second will kind of do that. It's like, if you get enough points, like you're just taking the rest of the fall off, he's like, yeah, yeah. Make sense, you know, good course from this week. I still think that maybe I'll just put me know what? That'll be great. I'll release the all Michael Kim will win because the members will watch my interview with him and then I'll release the show next week and coming off a PGA win. It's perfect. And then it'll we have great SEO where we don't talk about his win.

48:44Be a good trap for everybody. Michael Kim discusses his win and then they get on there. They're like, wait a second. What was this recorded? We did time stamp and I think because we were talking about the Irish open course. He's like, I asked him because he had a really bad run through the Scottish and open this year. He couldn't make any pots and we were talking about that. And then just how like the Renaissance Club, is it what you expect when you go over and play Scottish golf? He's like, yeah, what I expected to go over like that Irish open courses like kind of what you expect when you go over and play in Britain. I mean, the golf course that they played west coast of Ireland, you're going to get beat up in a place like that, which was interesting like when they went to Berkdale, they didn't quite get the weather that they thought they would get. Anytime you're on the west coast of those of those countries over there, you tend to get battered a little bit. And that golf course looked like a lot of fun to play. It was literally like right on the Atlantic Ocean right there,

49:47Dunebag, that area, of course, the Trump course there that they were at. There's a bunch of good golf there on the left coast of Ireland. Certainly when you go a little bit further south and you get down there to the ring of carry, you're going to catch a bunch of more good places. But the Irish open, man, it had a great field, Pat. Yeah, absolutely. And two former live guys came in second, getting beat by Shane Lowry by 11. But you know, you saw Ram, Terrell Hatton was there for the first two days. There were definitely some people there that seemed that they're interested in playing other places other than live 2.0. So yeah, I don't know how many people are going to be playing on live 2.0, especially when I saw the DP World Tour Corn Ferry Tour qualifier and the live guys playing in that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, live 2.0 is going to have some challenges. I didn't dig through all 800 pages of the chapter level, 11 filing, but those that brought the highlights to my attention, the one where the investors get to drop out if they don't have any big names on the

50:48tour. That seems to me like a caveat that might might cause some issues. I don't know. Well, Bryson has to be the guy behind this, doesn't he? Isn't he the only, if it had any chance, which it probably has like a 1% chance of being successful at all, probably less than that. But if Bryson's not involved as the owner, the main backer, as the biggest star, I think he feel like an zero shot. But is like Ringling Brothers and Bryson and Bailey Circus, like going to bring enough people like, don't you need some roms and some hattens to like try that. But that didn't worry about no one. So that I found myself in a predicament because I'm trying to like defend something I could care less about. You know, so I, we could back up. But like, it needs to be, it doesn't need to be golf, but different, like live 1.0. But if even if it was Bryson as a part of a team competition as a part of a YouTube tour, at least that's a, that's a legitimate, different idea that could generate revenue. I don't think it would generate

51:51revenue. But just running a normal tour with one good player and a bunch of scrubs from the Asian tour, maybe not the best idea. Well, the fact of the matter is they really didn't do anything unique when it comes to the world of golf. Like if you play in an event pat, you wear shorts, right? You play in a shotgun and it happens over just multiple days, but it certainly doesn't happen over four days, like shocker. That's the way 90% of the world plays their golf. And they were like reinventing the game. Like, no, we're pretty sure the wheel works like the wheel folks. So at the end of the day, like, it's like, it's no shocker that it didn't work, right? It just wasn't anything different. And the one reason that people really love to watch competition golf and they're going to watch the built more this week is that they love to watch people play under pressure coming down the stretch. And that's really difficult to do when you don't know where you stand on a golf course because you don't know where you stand on the golf course when you're in contention. Like that's really hard to make that to make people feel that that are watching it.

52:54And maybe that's why like 5% of their revenue came from TV rights. Like you can't sell that to anybody, right? That would be like, you know, the NCA tournament taking place with all the games happening at one time, but like, basically all happening at one time. That's interesting. Right? Like now you have to choose like, like, it just doesn't, it wouldn't work that way from a television product. And it was proven by them. Like they had unlimited resources and nobody tuned in and nobody even bought the product in order to make people tune in. What about the billions who watch on the caffeine TV app? Hey, like, like we never saw the highlights pat. I know I've said this before. So I actually thought the one thing that lived in better than any other tour in the world was there around by around highlight YouTube packages were awesome. Yeah, but nobody was watching. I'm talking about like the golf channel was sending people to live events to report on it. And then by Saturday and Sunday, they don't put it on golf central.

53:57How do you not have it on sports center of golf? Well, that's because the crooked PGA media kept them out. That you're sounded like one of Michael Kim's four million bots. I do, listen, I don't think it's crazy to think that there was incentive for the PGA tour, the main partner of golf channel to lean on them a little bit. Be like, hey, maybe don't show live stuff and talk about live unless it's in a negative light. And then being like, okay, I don't think that's crazy to think about. Oh, no, I think you're 100% right. And I know you're 100% right. That's for sure what happened. But at the end of the day, it just wasn't a good competitive golf product, which you know, it is a good competitive golf product. Take me to Wentworth, because that's a great golf course. This is a great tournament. Well, I want to talk about quick picks very briefly of guys that were kind of in on here. So post in flames, Michael Kim for the SEO value next week when that show comes out that Bowshoe. And then I said post in right. And

55:03William Mao was the other one. So like those five and then maybe Grio, Chatfield, Glover, Pendrith, I'll circle around those guys. I'll put everything in the newsletter and then Vince Waley first round leader with Vince Waley. No, but to be clear, I mean, for the, for the, to be clear for the comments characters, right? You know, I, I love JT. I love Blades Brown, but I do like the two Europeans. I like Hogard and I like Pennch. And I'm going to be heading in that direction. I'm, I'm not looking for Michael Kim SEO this week, although that would probably be the reason why you would break through and not finish runner up would be, you know, you know, you know, to cash in on the, the Michael Kim interview, you know, that would be the golf gods would be in your favor for that. You need someone who's a good bent grass putter. Michael Kim, good bent grass putter. He is. He is. I mean, guys, the scoring record at John Deere. That was the thing that we talked about first was the 59. Yeah, I mean, that's

56:07his, I mean, that's like historic. You know, a handful of guys, well, it's getting more and more, but a handful of guys have done that on the PGA tour and to say that you have done something like that, especially in recent memory, that is really cool. And then somebody could say like, oh, you know, he made like 200 feet of putts, but like, yeah, you're going to have to. You're not going to hit it like Doug Kim to like seven feet every time and then two putt. So, you know, you going to have to make some footage in there. But first round leader, Blades Brown goes off or Davis Chatfield. There you go. Yeah, Chatfield, Waley Glover, first round leaders, I think for me, just play some bombs and see if someone catches a hot putter. But if I add anyone to that list, I'll throw it in. There's a version of your home you haven't even lived in yet. We're the light behaves in the rooms, feel finished and you sleep in until you decide to wake up. Blinds.com has spent 30 years making it easy to find the perfect fit, covering more than 25 million windows with 50,000 five star reviews. And I've had those blinds that drive you nuts.

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1:00:17The course almost like we just did for the PGA event, I mean on the DP World Tour, picks and bets show on mayo media network. If you want to check that out, probably coming up later on Monday evening or early midday Tuesday, somewhere around there. But it's field is awesome. Obviously you got Rory, social media golfer, Ludwig Oberg, Ludwig Oberg texted me when the chargers lost to the Cardinals. Well, I saw this text. Yeah, it is Ludwig, just the chargers, which makes perfect sense. I mean, he's going to have to find a hotter girlfriend to compete with Justin Herbert. That's all I know. But Ludwig Oberg even pointed out that they're the same and that when it's going well, they look like the best in the league or the best player on earth. And then when it goes poorly, it's like they don't know how to play the game. Yeah. I think you need to talk to one of your other analysts to go through the chargers to the depth with which you could get a good reaction to counter

1:01:20the the blickle text. But when I read that, it gave me a good chuckle. It gave me a good laugh out loud. That's for sure, because it instantly, you know, it instantly brought to mind exactly what he was talking about. And I was like, yeah, that's probably pretty true, because the fact that the chargers lost that game was pretty sad. So huge field. Again, you said it's the player championship of the DP World Tour. Roy's the favorite eight to one. And Rom and Ludwig are both 12. Fleetwood's 14 fits is 16. So's name in Havelins 18. Shop round for some numbers, by the way, but these ones are coming from Coolbet. And I'll have a boost up there. I'm betting Patrick Reed. See in 22 here. I'll see if there's a better number than that. Lowry's 22 coming off the win. Gerard Mac entire Hatton had to 28. It's actually a pretty good number. Adam Scott's in the field. McKibbin Noren, who won last year Aaron rise up here along with Rose Alex Fitzpatrick Alex Fitzpatrick feels like a really good fit to me at this course. I can't disagree with that Pat. I mean, the way that Alex has been playing and some of those other names you mentioned like Hatton missed the cut

1:02:22last week in Ireland and didn't look like he really wanted to be there. Although he seems to miss the cut every year in Ireland. And he's still obviously a world class player. Good fit for wet worth. I guess strike those irons really well. Keep it out of trouble and then be able to score because the winner is going to be probably in the high teens. Justin Rose hasn't really been the same since like that quasi injury and the injury injury to his irons. When they all broke and they became a clearance. So like overall the name that caught my eye in the like mid 30s maybe you get a 40 in them. It was Tom McKibbin because Tom McKibbin has a ton of talent and he's been playing well. And it just seems to me like I don't know. I don't I'm not like Sky and the guys like I don't follow the DP World Tour. I got lucky last week with Shane Lowry just thought that he would care to want to win the Irish open. So like I'll get a good top 10 out of him and I'll get some money to bank in my golf channel leaderboard leaderboard. But like Patrick Reed top five's here every time he plays here. It's a perfect golf course for him. And he's in great form. And then I thought

1:03:25McKibbin would be fun. And then two bombs. I knew you were going to ask me for some bombs. So either Ross Fisher or Rafah Cabarabell. Ross Fisher. Wow. Look it up. I owe our we've met in first round leaders from 13 years ago. Because that's what Ross Fisher is in my mind. Hey, last time, the last two times he's played the BMW, which our recent were top 10 finishes. What about any other tournament that he's played over the past five years? I used T23 last week. Well, it's okay. Ross Fisher fire him up. I will go Ross Fisher first round leader for sure. I mean, you can go Ross Fisher with like a hundred places. Look, come in. Cash. I wouldn't even cash that. Hey, come on. Guys, T23 in Ireland. Tough conditions. Rafah Cabarabell is actually kind of interesting. He's been playing better golf over the past three months or so. Yeah, I think he was he was another guy that was top 25 last week in Ireland. And he's one of those guys. Now his success goes back a little bit further there at Wentworth. But if

1:04:27he's in good form, he he's got multiple top 10s there. So I mean, these guys are 400 to one pat. I'm bringing him in. I'm bringing him in so you could like have we can have something to talk about. That's fun because Patrick Reads get a win and then we'll make money that way. See, that's excellent. So let me read you the list of winners from Wentworth and see if there's a style of play that is there's different styles of play. Obviously that have popped up here over the years. Noren one last year that was his second victory at Wentworth, Billy Horshaw, one the year before that, which was his second win at Wentworth. He also won in 2019. Ryan Fox, Shane Lowry, Billy Horshaw, Tyrell Hatton, Danny Willett, Francesco Molinarri, Alex Noren, Chris Wood, the Unhun Ann in 2015. Then you're into Rory Mateo, Madassero, Donald, Donald. It's not that dissimilar from the cap that we just gave to the course on the PGA tour. This is accuracy players who are really good with their irons and you pray they make some puns.

1:05:29Well, those names scream two skills to me. The first is Long Iron Play. Anytime you bring up Danny Willett, like you're just that that says to me when he separates, he separates at Long Iron Play and guys like Noren and others are very good at that and the other thing is scrambling. Now that's the combination of putting enchipping, right? So scoring in and around the green and the fact that Patrick Reed has all those top fives there. When Rory wins, Rory just wins with Uber talent. He's just better than everybody at everything. He can take his driver out and gain five. He just puts himself in position to do that. When you list those other guys, Horshaw scrambling, Noren scrambling, Shane Lowry scrambling, all of those guys were scoring from close range. I think that that's something very important that you have to be able to do at Wentworth. You go all the way back to where these two are the match play. Those 36 whole days at Wentworth, they used to see on the golf channel in the morning all the time at this time of year, which was like, it was unbelievable theater. And you'd see guys like, you know, westward versus

1:06:34all thobble or like Ls versus like the, they used to call it the world match play championship. Like the guys that kept winning that were the guys that could really strike their irons and they could scramble the heck out of the golf ball. Trying to think, I'm trying to find Bud Cuck is Bud Colley and Alex Smoller are both playing in this event. Yep. Bud Colley is an all world chipper, maybe not the best putter all the time. But a lot of these guys that we mentioned aren't even really that good on the greens. They're just good around the greens. You know, Shane Lowry be a perfect example, not not the strongest putter, stroke skeined wise, but man that cadac guy scramble. Yeah. Oh yeah. You know, he could really scramble same thing with Horshaw. Like right legit can't putt. Yeah. Molen Ari is one of the best long iron strikers that we've seen over the last decade. So let's see, long iron play. If I can go to stroke skein past six months, you know, let's go past 12 months because anything, anything over 175 yards and then scramble like all this. I'll just go to 200 yards. And did we want to look at proximity or like inside 15

1:07:35foot shots from that range? Yeah, let's do that because let's, let's see who's really good at it. So I'm only looking at like Marcus Kinholdt, who did he have the runner up here? There was a sweet way to run her up here. No, it was Richard Karlberg who had the runner up from that, but he's a very good long iron player by and large. Let me just put a minimum rounds of like 24 here. I'm trying to find the PGA guys that might be playing in this event. And if we resort by 201, is Sung J in the field? No, he would be playing president's cup next week, isn't he? Yeah, I don't think that a lot of it. He would care to go over there the week before he's got to go to Medina. I guess that makes sense, doesn't it? Oh, see, I'm looking at Ben Crest. That's why I don't like where are all the names? Sometimes you got to turn a reset the filters, Keith. Have you ever made that mistake? Only in college dating. Kiteyama, very good. Kiteyama playing, he should be.

1:08:36You know what? He's not even playing. Alex Smalley is good at this. Alex Smalley is a very good tea degree in player. He can't putt. Maybe this is good for him. I mean, that's the way I look at this golf course. You know, Rafak Cabrero-Bao is a great scrambler of the golf ball. And I'm not sure that Ross Fisher was ever great at anything. So I won't say anything there. But Tom McKibbin gets it around very well when he's close to the green. Good, good iron player. That's where my head was at. So what was I think that makes sense. I was looking more at the top though. I like Reed. I guess the question for me is, do I do a Matt Fitzpatrick? Because I think that he's being slightly disrespected in the odds market. Victor, I think, is somewhat interesting that then scrambling. He's like, yeah, like between those two, you gotta go heavy fits over Victor. Yeah, but they both are great iron players, but right now, but one can scramble and one can't. But Reed, we know Ken, but I would look down a little bit. You mentioned McKibbin. Scott's not the best around the greens.

1:09:39Noren is, but it would be Alex Fitzpatrick. Like instead of betting Matt Fitzpatrick, bet Alex along with Reed. And then you get another one of like the Smollies or Collies or Cool Bet's own Oliver Lindell from Finland. There you go. Skeedy J Olison. Scott Olison. That guy. Yeah, I mean, he played good in Ireland. He was the bet at Ireland last week that everyone made except for me, but it won just as much as my crappy bet. So I want to find scrambling on DP exclusive for this year. It must be tough for the DP World Tour like just some of the stats. And I think that we're going to have all the DP stats integrated into the rabbit hole by the new year. I think that's the goal that we're looking at right now. But where they play so many different styles of courses. Oh, yeah, that it must be tell like just must be weird to look at and be like, okay, well, yeah, this guy was able to scramble the shit out of the courses in Abu Dhabi and Qatar

1:10:39and Oman, but dude can't chip at all in the British Isles. Like that there's there's almost these be like splits of the splits. I totally agree. That's why some of the players that come over here. And our courses are like so homogeneous. Like they they probably are like Jesus is so much easier than what I'm usually dealing with. You know, I'm in the the forests of Germany and then like two weeks later, I'm in Dubai, then I'm playing on the west coast of Ireland. And then you know, the next thing, you know, you're down like in Thailand somewhere. It's got to be crazy to play on those tours, especially like the challenge version of it. You know, it or what would be like the kit the corn fairy tour level. You know, like what kind of golf courses those guys play in? Yeah, when Victor Perez come back off live, he's in the field. He was great. He's top 10 of the Scottish. He was top 30 at the open. And he's like 100 and 100 and something to one. And I'm just looking at his scrambling numbers on the DP tour. So far this year, he's top 10 in scrambling. Gerard is the best scrambler on the DP world tour this year. Wow. He said, you know, in an interview

1:11:44that he did with Gary this morning on five clubs, he talked about he was going to spend basically all fall over and deep over and play European tour events. I appreciate that. Like I assume Ryan Gerard's not married, right? No, he might be married, but he talked about the fact that he doesn't have any kids. He's at a point in his life where he just wants to play golf all over the world and try to get as good as he can and like try to raise his world ranking to the best point that he can and try to play as much good golf. Well, there's also an alternate strategy to this too. Because Ryan Gerard's never going to be the best player in the world this week now. True. Yeah. He's 27 years old. If you don't have somewhere tying you down that you need to be home at all times, why not go do this? And like even because he went and played Mauritius last year and all those South African events that when he turns like 40 and maybe Ryan Gerard's not on tour anymore, maybe turns like 33 and Ryan Gerard isn't on tour anymore. He'll get the invites back to these like weird tournaments that he just showed up to when he was a real guy that like he's

1:12:45planning for the future here in case the game falls off a little bit. Next generation Gary player. I like it. I mean, will it kind of does this right now that he just picks up starts at all these random tournaments? Place wherever he can keep it going to get to the championship store. But they would, but these other events will invite you back if you showed them a bit of love first. Well, you even see that with sponsors exemptions for some of these guys on the PGA tour that if you were good to that tournament 10 years ago, they might invite you back here. I mean, that's going to be speed in 10 years. Oh God. So he's speaking to play a ton on the fall. I have to write. Honestly, so if it makes perfect sense to you and I that he should play a bunch in the fall and earn the points, that means he won't and he'll wait for his sponsors exemptions and he'll just run it back again and try to figure something out for the championship series. That's, I mean, that's exactly what's going to happen. Should we be betting Gerard? What were his odds? 28 to ones a bit steep for Gerard.

1:13:4835 down here. That's still a bit steep for Gerard. It seems like in a field that has Rory and and Rob and Rob. Yeah. And Ludwig and Fleetwood and Fitz and Neiman and Holland and Reed and the San Diego Chargers. Oh no, you said it. Aberg. Sorry. All right. So Reed, Ross Fisher and Raffa Cabre a Bayo first round leaders. And I'm going to decide on which fits that I want to take here. Yeah. Don't forget McKibbin. Yeah, I just missed my kid. McKibbin top 15 and scrambling on DP. I like McKibbin. I almost met him last week. I couldn't quite get there because I ended up plunging in on Reed. I'm just going to keep riding Reed here. Kids of talented kid and like, like you mentioned earlier, and I think you're a thousand percent right. I don't know that a lot of those guys are going to like a lot of those like the cars of the world. He's already moved away, but like those really talented young guys are going to are going to last for live 2.0. So McKibbin's got to earn some points. And I think he'll play a bunch this fall and I think he'll play well. All right. That will do it on the Mayo experience. I got questions for you. Oh yeah,

1:14:53yeah, we're doing that. Totally forgot. Rapid fire questions. Hit me up. Oh, there's also one and done. If you go to fantasy golf championships.com, there's a fall season one and done. There's a $50 one and $25 one and a hundred dollar one if you want to go play in that. I think it's fun just to man, I'll put that much effort into it. I'll pick that guy. Who did you say this week? Lucas Glover. The glove man. He'll have one percent ownership. You'll be the one. All right. Questions. Worst NFL beat from yesterday or the weekend from yesterday that I took or just in general. Just you. It could be from, you know, Wednesday or Thursday too. Honestly, I ran so well in week one. It was one of the better betting weeks I've ever had. The dolphins not covering cost me a bunch of money, like a bunch of more money on top of the money that I won, but had they have covered it would have cashed a three, four, five and six leg spread parlay for me. Oh, wow. But they suck. I can't be like too bummed they lost. Yeah. All right, so then what's your best call the NFL weekend? I was the four props that I gave out and played

1:15:59them all individually put them all together. I called Cooper Rush my prop of the year and I went over a thousand bucks on that alone across like eight different sites because I didn't want to get limited everywhere. So I went in parlay's, hitting like the big props. I can't wait to lose all my money in week two. Or North Carolina. Yeah, that's a given. So when you're going to a new course on the PGA tour without even looking at anything, what is one skill that you always tend to, you know, add more weight to? Being good. Well, outside of Strokes game total or T-degree, like where's one area? I always say putting, but maybe you do something different. Honestly, usually just look at recent form for a lot of this stuff is, and it really depends on the field. Like I always think that the best players have the best chance to figure it out before I just think about anything else that if you're throwing these guys in, and like you said, many of them probably aren't doing a bunch of advanced research on this stuff that I just think that someone who's in good form is kind of

1:17:03feeling it right now would probably be able to figure it out a bit more quickly than someone who just, you know, he's been kind of a luller hasn't played in a while. Name one guy, not for this week, because we've talked about that enough, but name one guy you think's going to win one of the other seven events. That is a lock to win. That isn't in the field this week? No, just when we're looking ahead to the next seven that we'll play in the fall at some point that you think will win. Blades Brown, we're going to bet him every week. All right, I like that. Final score this week over under 20. Over. PGA tour has a press conference called for tomorrow morning. What do you think they're going to announce? Role apps doing it too. So it's not even like it's one of his, you know, little plebs like rolling out there behind the microphone. It's, Role apps got something to say and it's tomorrow morning. I'm guessing it's a pathway for live guys back. Interesting, which I hope is you have to play on the Challenger series.

1:18:10Oh, that would be great. I think that's the best solution to all of this. Like, hey, we have this new tour coming out. You got yet. If you listen, if you, I think they should make moving up and down easier between the two, even if it's like bottom five guys, top five guys after like a quarter of the year. I know there's the instant promotions, but those seem very difficult to get that having a bit of movement that ROM could play like the first five events of the Challenger series and then just be back because that's what people actually want to see. It would be, it would be a very kind of like strategic way to not let them back in time to get enough points to get on the championship series and then they, they have to play the Challenger series because it seems like, unlike what you just said there, they're going to be pretty rigid and who moves back and forth at least for the first year. So they figure out they're like, oh, man, we should have let more people move back and forth. And then in 29, they probably have more relegation of promotion. Well, that that also gives, that also gives you something to root for like in season on both tours too, right? Like, oh, this final event is coming down. There's one guy, there's five guys are going to be relegated.

1:19:15Like can they play a bit better this week? And the other guys who are trying to play themselves up, like, oh, man, like a sixth place finish here coming down this stretch, if you can just power out, he gets up to the big tour. Well, you can totally tell who's voting for once you're on the champ series. You're on for the season. I mean, that's a player vote right there. I mean, that's like a signature series. We're going to have 50 guys and a no cut event for 20 million. And all you need to do is work out provisions where you save the people who matter the most. Like put in the the Rory rule of like figure out how Rory could not play yet still not get relegated and make that a rule. I think that's called 2026. Like he didn't pass any of the rules. Like just make the rule that if you're ranked inside the top 50 or 60 in the world, you can't be relegated because of points. I mean, that does make sense until the end of the year. But there already in a system where like Rory didn't play the minimum number of events that you need to this year and they still kept him along. So I mean, the guy finished one like fourth and FedEx cop points who cares if there's a minimum agreed. It's not like he played 14 events played poorly. And they're like, oh yeah,

1:20:18welcome to the tour championship. That's not what happened. You didn't want the mask. Yeah, you did. You did win a green jacket. All right. Who wins the BMW Rory? Who do you got? Read. All right. And uh, post and read was a post and read double pay this week. Well, then you answered my last question. Take us away. Post and read. Let's see. Go back to Asheville. Go to Asheville. And we'll click on some GT post in. 600. Oh, the sign of the devil Keith. 666 to one. That deserves, I mean, that doesn't deserve 200 of my dollars. That deserves 20 of my dollars though. 13,000 bucks. They both win. That's really 666. It is. Yes. Oh, man. Play sped. Play. You sit. Let's say I have to accept an odds change. Anyway, I'll make it the moment we stop doing this. We're still doing the show. I should probably not be betting as I do this at KJ Stewart PGA on X.

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