Mary Kay Cabot: Browns Could Trade Down From No. 6 Pick

0:00One hour from now, former Cleveland Brown, a fan favorite had some very harsh and critical words for Kevin Stofansky. And I regret to say I have to agree with him. That coming up at 9.20 this morning. Let's go to the maker right call call right hotline and welcome in Mary K. All right, I had one of the probably most vague things ever to bring you on right before the break Mary K. I was like, well, there are the Browns already planning the futures for you know who and you know who like anybody knows that, but Mary K knows who they are. So let's run it by Mary K and she joins us right now again on that make it right call call right hotline. Hello, Mary K. Hey, where are you? We're doing well. The Browns. I'm just going to get right to the jugular here. The Browns have proposed a new rule where you can trade picks five years into the future, which is a long time. So A, are they thinking about Archmaning already B, are they thinking about the future where Miles Garrett will finish his career already?

1:02You know, I don't know if any of those things are necessarily connected. I don't see them wanting Miles Garrett to finish his career anywhere, but here probably. So we'll have to see how that one goes. I don't really, I don't really know what the future holds for him. And I think we will know more about this rule and about, you know, how they feel about some of these guys. When we go to the NFL owners meetings in a couple of weeks, we can really pick the brains of Andrew Barry and the Haslums and Todd Monkin. So we'll have a better feel for it then. But I don't think it necessarily informs their plans for Miles. My theory, Mary K, is that they want to set this up like NBA teams do, you know, the Browns gave up three, lost three straight years of first round picks to get the Sean Watson. And my theory is they want to, if they, they want to position themselves and give other teams

2:03the opportunity to kind of like space that out, right? So if you want to make another big deal and give up three first round picks, it doesn't have to be in the three consecutive years. You can space that pain out. Do you think that that's more likely the motive behind this or just what do you think the motive behind this is coming from Andrew Barry and the Browns? You know, once again, not really sure because we haven't had a chance to talk to them yet, but I would just think maximizing any opportunity to go out there and wheel and deal. You have seen over the past few years, teams are trading a lot more than they used to. Now at the trade deadline, you're seeing a lot of activity. And I think they just want to have more options. And like you said, maybe more NBA vibe to it where you can spread it out. Like you said, where you can, you know, is the pain a little bit over the future years. And you know, they were the ones that also tried to increase the trade deadline by two

3:07weeks. It ended up being only one week, but they had proposed two more weeks and are loves to wheel and deal. He loves to make trades. And I'm sure while they're in the process of doing this, they see that they can really expand their horizons a lot with something like this. Mary K. Cabot joining us on the show. I really like AJ Pinesa. I think that this is, I wrote not bad when they made this move, Mary K. when you announced this yesterday on social media because it's like, hey, your defensive line has been good. Just lean into it a little bit more and make it even better. Well, they lost Cam Thomas to the Falcons and you need depth on that line. So at Vanessa comes in here. He in three straight years, he had six and a half, six and a half and six sacks. It was last year that he only had two, but he's someone that can give you a nice rotational piece of situational edge rusher that can provide some sacks and they need somebody else besides miles who can do that. And I think in this defense that he will fare very well.

4:08You know, Andrew Barry, the combine had mentioned that youth does not mean that you can't win in the NFL and looking at what they've done to this point, Mary K in the off season with the offensive line, bringing in some pieces here and there, be selective, how they're spending their money. And it's really surprised me to this point and it really does feel like that they're going to continue to lean in to that youth movement with their draft picks and kind of filling these holes. My question to you is assuming that they're going to draft skill position guys here in April. Does that, will that be enough to make this team better for Todd Monkin? Because right now, offensively for an offense that barely scored 16, 17 points per game, it kind of feels like they've tread water to this point that they just won for one type

5:11of an exchange. So do you think they can get demonstratively better offensively just through the draft? Well, I do, again, it all comes back down to the quarterback who's going to be playing quarterback for them, but I do see a brighter future for the offense for a number of reasons first of all, they had to fix the offensive line and so far they've done that very well. I think they'll still add a couple more pieces to that offensive line, possibly even a new left tackle. So starting with the line, you have to do that. And then once again, it's going to come down to what happens at quarterback, but I do think that they will add a couple of flashier pieces for the offense. I think you'll see a receiver or two coming in here, maybe a new tight end coming in here through the draft. So you will have some guys with the skill positions, but then also you have to remember that you've got a bunch of really young guys from last year that are going to be growing up a lot and elevating their game and taking it to the next level in 2026.

6:13And Harold Fanon already had a really nice rookie year, but he should be even better. And then I think Isaiah Bond will be better next year. And you've got Quinshawn and Dylan who are both going to take their game up, providing Quinshawn is healthy and ready to go, which he should be. So just by virtue of those guys taking their game up the next match, I think that is going to help this offense tremendously. And then you've got a new vibe, a new sheriff in town in Todd Munkin, who will bring his own stamp to this offense. Mary K joining us here on the make a right call call, right hotline. Mary K, is there any conversation at all about you overreaching for certain players? Like a Monroe Freeling, man, it seems like number six overalls, very rich, very rich for my blood, where he might be a good player in a couple years, but I don't think we have the patience to wait. Well, I'm sure that's part of the discussion and I'm sure that they are looking into that very heavily right now.

7:16And they still have a lot of draft work to do. They are not done yet by any stretch of the imagination. They're still working through their top 30 visits, we'll be hearing more and more about those in the coming weeks. And once again, we have to dig in more at the owner's meetings and whatnot. But I don't think that they are ready to make their decision yet at number six. Or I don't think they're ready to decide yet if they are staying at number six. These are all things that will be decided over the next four weeks or so, five weeks or so. And I still think there's a good chance that if they can trade down, perhaps they will. Because they do need assets. They do need draft capital. Having said that, however, I think there are a number of players that can warrant that number six pick. So maybe they do stay there, but I think the inclination will be to trade down, especially knowing that you have another pick coming at 24. I like that. I like that idea. What if, how enticing is wide receiver there at number six?

8:18Is there anybody that can blow their doors off and make a change that opinion? Maybe you? Well, I think there are receivers that warrant the number six overall pick. I definitely think that you could be justified in taking a carnell tape or a Jordan Tyson there, maybe even a McKay lemon there. But I don't know if they would take one that high. I think that would be another possible trade down scenario where you'd go a little bit later with one of those guys, but certainly any of those guys will be under consideration at number six, as will the top tackles that, you know, we keep recycling and talking about including freeing. So yeah, I do think that receiver tackle and then I just have to wonder. I mean, we've talked about this plenty of times. I just have to wonder how much they would consider a Simpson at number six overall. I know that he's on their radar. I know they're working on him.

9:18I know they like him. I don't know how much they like him. Only 15 starts at Alabama. I've been watching some of his film. I'm very impressed with a lot of things that he does, but I just don't know if he's someone that they're thinking of in those terms at this point. I was just about to ask you about Ty Simpson, Mary Kay, because you're right. There seems to be some tangible buzz about him and the Browns here. I've been playing a game regularly, Ty Simpson or future 2027 quarterback prospect, who is better? And I keep coming back to the 2027 quarterback prospects intrigue me a little more than Ty Simpson. And I don't know, just you said he, you know, you're impressed with what you see on some of the tape that you're watching of him.

10:20If they take him, that takes them out of 2027, do you think he's worth taking yourself out of the 2027 projected QB class? That is the big expector. That is something that you would have to decide. You would have to weigh him against what you think you can get in 2027 and what kind of picks are you going to have in 2027? If you take yourself out of the Ty Simpson sweepstakes this year, then you're going to have to be pretty sure that you can get your hands on one of the guys coming out next year that you really like a lot. So that's the consideration. Are there four, maybe five guys that you like as much as you like Ty Simpson this year? Or are you positioned this year in a spot where you can get your hands on the second best quarterback in this draft? Some might even think the best quarterback in this draft.

11:20So it's just something that they're going to have to figure out over the next five or six weeks. I think it's going to be something that could help determine their future over the next even decade. I'm laughing right now. People can see me on YouTube and I'm not laughing at Darryl's question and I'm not laughing at your answer. I'm thinking about something. You were laughing at me because I'm thinking about something. I'm thinking about what I ran it and raved about at seven o'clock and how that's actually open me up to Ty Simpson somehow because I'm trying to avoid some fake scenario between radio show hosts about trading for picks and things or trading for jail and hurts and things like that. And I'm like, no, we'll just go get Ty Simpson. So that it's just a crazy thing of what that does to my head is defense out of the question for them. You said their work's not done. They have a lot on defense. I mean, they got a lot of town on that defense, Mary Kaye. Is it like out of the question that they're going to draft anybody high or is it still like, hey, you know what best player available is simply that best player available? If that guy's on defense, we're taking that guy on defense.

12:24Well, remember, Andrew goes into the draft, acting as though, and they all do, they go into the draft, acting as though they are restocking an expansion team or stocking an expansion team. So absolutely, they usually play like one, so I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Well, so defense can absolutely 100% be in play with some of those top three picks that they have. At number six, perhaps, you know, number 24, maybe 39, sure, any of those picks, a defensive player, a dominant defensive player would be in play there. And then the other thing to consider with the number six overall pick, they are going to have to make sure that they seem or express interest in many players there because of the fact that if you want somebody to come up and grab that pick, you've got to talk up some of these guys like really big. So, so I think that's something to watch over the next five weeks or so that, you know,

13:28you will be hearing that they're interested in Greece and Downs and Kate and Simpson and Preling and pretty much everyone because they need interest in that pick if they hope to pick up some assets for next year. Do the Browns win a trophy for being the masters of this Allerick? Oh, here we go. Well, they are good at it. They are good at it. I think that they were really early on to the, you know, the restructure bonus and, you know, giving everyone all the veterans a 1.2, whatever, million base and then a huge restructure bonus. You have to have the money to be able to do that, but teams do have that kind of money now. It's not like back in the art model days where, you know, you had to borrow from the bank to pay five different banks, five different banks for Andre Ryzen, baby. I mean, now the poor left, I said his house on fire, all right, Pete. I talked to her about that at training camp, you talked to her about setting this house

14:31on fire. I did. Can you tell us what she said or is that still, you know, you don't have to tell us. I don't think I should go there, but he wasn't happy at all that I had this. I didn't bring it up. We were just having a nice little chat at training camp one day and she's the one that brought it up. Well, you know, Liz, well, if you want to talk to Liz about someday setting my house on fire, you go right on ahead. Well, I, I can keep a secret. So if she tells me why I probably won't, I won't tell anybody. I mean, I can't imagine I'd ever do something to get the house set on fire, but, you know, if I'm still relatively middle-aged man, so we'll see what happens. Okay. Thank you so much for the time, all the best to you and yours, and of course, we'll talk to you again next week. Thank you so much. Sounds good. Thanks, guys. Mary K. Kaplan on the make it right call call right hotline. Is it wrong that I could see you doing something to get your house set on fire by your wife? Well, no, what? You know what you want to ask.

15:32You know, you know what happened earlier this week. Should she start with the couch? I know, because I said to Lyma, all right. Can I bring it back? We come back about that scenario. All right. Why my wife would set my house on fire in five minutes as well as something every radio show host and every Browns fan can actually agree on something from Robert Mays coming up shortly on the fan.