Hour 1: The Browns Won the Myles Garrett Trade

0:00The Ken Carmen show with Anthony Limer second down six. Pretty under center gets the snap back to pass with Tom looking looking taking a shot deep down the field got a man open It is caught touchdown 40-nighters Bernie goes deep down the field and finds to mark his Robinson It's a 39 your touchdown strike and with them the 40-nighters and reclaim the lead Shotgun snap pretty back looking left has time stutters his feet now moving to his right he throws for the ends of caught Touchdown 40-nighters. It's Debo Samuel Samuel pulls it in to give the 40-nighters a 23-7 lead here in the fourth quarter in Melbourne No, no, I mean this was a worst version of myself that I've Got to be better. I got to find a way to Recover and get back to the player. I know I can't be and I've shown that I've been before this is Cleveland's sports radio 92-3 the fan

1:03The Browns won the trade the Browns won the trade The Browns won the trade the Browns won the trade the Browns won the trade the Browns won the trade the Browns won the trade The Browns won the trade let's go I don't know how many wins we're gonna get there in the regular season, but you can chalk that one up to the Cleveland Browns We want to know what are the lemon laws in the nine games? 11 loss and all three Okay, we're choking are we yeah, why not? That was amazing audio courtesy of whistle By the way, I think I think my else Garrett realized like yeah He was a is these famous, but he's not like Famous famous famous he's he's not like When you're when you're a really good player for the Browns. That's one thing

2:07But when you're on the supposed super team Like his miles Garrett ever been the butt of this many jokes in his life And he played for the Browns. Oh my god. No, you know what the entire internet is right about him No, think about this. He is he is 100% correct. Well When he flipped his car No, no, no, no, no, no Nationally see this is the thing Lime is right Because before it was like well the Browns miles Garrett miles Garrett's being held back by the Browns Browns are the Browns are the Browns are the Browns are the Browns are the Browns are the Browns are the Browns are the Browns And then there was like well miles got to get miles out of Cleveland got to get miles off the Browns and then last night It's like okay. You're out of Cleveland and you're on the super team And it was struggling and they made him such a focal point of the broadcast last night Trent Williams Who's as old as the hills? It's still great still great And then there's not knocking it like it was just

3:09I watched him and the get off look pretty quick and then he said he wasn't a hundred percent He's already talking about injuries and you know he barely he barely practiced The last month listen, it's it's and I said as is no warranty You know Well, they said you come back to my service station, you know when Aaron Donald didn't make the trip we talked about this yesterday I'm like I'm kind of surprised miles is playing in this game But but you know, he's miles as a competitor like I've never accused him of not being a competitor and then yesterday he's a lot of people have got sure I think that's just not not our show But I think that's just Browns fans who were just mad when we lost a bunch and was at him the bull In a Browns fan bull was calling him not competitive years ago But you know miles obviously was the best thing we had for a long time and I think that was just frustration right like oh Where was miles today like there were games where you'd have there were these random games yeah

4:11And then last year he sets a sack record on a terrible team on a losing team and it's like I thought he'd set you more you thought he'd have even more because like you're gonna be playing with leads But he wasn't playing with a lead in no no they got the basket. Yeah, they did I mean that that Champions pose on there was no reason to watch the second half of that game so Champions pose for those who leave early, but we'll talk about that coming up a little bit at 644 maybe a little bit I Found a lot of people excited when I woke up this morning. I found a lot of people excited when I woke up in the middle of the night That he did he had no impact They got hammered and they had no impact and I you know I always you'll want to take the high road, but you don't always have to take the high road And it's like okay, he's not like You're free to root against him It's it's not a seer like I don't think it's obviously not a serious injury like a you're Ain't rooting for serious injury boy. We've been down that road too many times recently

5:12Like you're not rooting for a serious injury here, but it's like all right. Yeah You don't want him to do well You don't because if he does well that means they're gonna be probably be doing well It's one game they got 16 to go which is something that you know miles has actually iterated before As a member of the Cleveland Browns um It's sound it the post game was weird the whole thing was weird It was surreal at first to see him in a in a Rams jersey But I saw so many people who are excited and I go yeah You be excited be a Browns fan you're a lot to be excited about this I don't know how many victories you're gonna get and so I think you can't let last night was a victory. I think to some people it kind of did I think to some people it kind of did like because I do think there's been some people You know what even myself you know I certainly got to admit this A lot of us have done because he's not the typical type of Like Jared verse he's fishing a barrel okay, can we call it what it is like as of right now

6:13We're still in a honeymoon phase with Jared verse But like I I listen to his five minutes of media availability yesterday There were people sending tweets about like what a leader this guy like he is The fish and a barrel barrel stereotypical defense dog leader those things you want Miles is a dog Miles is a tremendous player Miles ain't any of them other things There's just heard verse brings yeah, he's the best Browns player. He's just the best probably ever seen my life He's probably the best Browns player you ever see but he doesn't contribute all those other things And I think it's bothered people because most like the guys we talk to Most guys we talk to on an everyday basis stop playing football in high school Well high school all it is all about team team team Emotions buy in hold the rope the whole thing take your end of the bargain hold up your end like it's all about that And so when they see that it's hard to rationalize it

7:14But he's so good and he plays for our team and he's special So we we do mental gymnastics myself included absolutely and then when he's gone All the things that you've thought of in the back of your head all the things that people have argued with you in the back That you remember in the back of your head they come out because he's on another team And your team has been the butt of the jokes over the last time in a year's and you have there will probably be plenty of jokes this year That have nothing to do with miles gear But your team's been the butt of the jokes you've had this guy And now you don't have them anymore and it's like okay now I can finally be critical Like there was a I think there was a criticism that that people wanted to hold back from He's still a marvelous player It is still only one game But you are on you're in a International game it's the only thing going it's this weird setting where I think some I dig it a lot of people going Kenny I tune in just to kind of see Australia didn't help that you know Darrym Mensa was playing against Florida a and M and Did he did he play even the second quarter I tuned out I threw it was 21 nothing at the end of the first hat first quarter

8:16And he was 14 to 15 for the game for three touchdowns I mean, it's 49 nothing at the end of the first half so some people they might have been watching a little bit of Miami Then they tuned in like there was a curiosity there and he's they won 77 to seven Yes, he is the biggest part of that curiosity miles not the Miami Miles biggest part of that curiosity there and he didn't do anything last night No, and I think there was a lot of fans who uh, yeah, yeah, you're a lot to be kind of happy I think you're allowed to be that way of course you can okay You have their draft pick. I'm just making sure we don't have to sit here and act like we need to take the high road on everything like we are allowed to route against people in In professional sports. I don't need to sit there and talk down to everybody who you spend nine years of his life No, we don't need to do that. Well, we were monitoring you know, we get a draft pick guys the bill situation all last year And that didn't go our way right so Nobody's really expecting the Rams to to fall flat on their face But that was a that was a great start for us in that draft pick certainly and hopefully this draft pick will help us

9:19This draft pick will help us get On track. No, I don't I can't say back on track. I mean you a little bit, but Hopefully this will get us righted and so I have to route against him for the greater good of the football team I got none personal against them. We got none personal against them at all But I got a route against him Because I don't want them to have a high pick. I want everything I can possibly get Yeah, for this year if we can get ourselves correct The hard part was was miles and Obviously it was symbolic of you know that that effort all together from that team. Yes, was that because of the travel Or was it because those are bringing in a later? But might as well bring it up now. Yeah, like how can you I saw everybody making these grandiose statements about the travel and I laughed because I told you on the way in we a Super-seeker phone call and I laughed. I said the peach shrager Peter shrager Had the whole thing about all the rams sent 14 staffers

10:21To take this very trip and then they had one that was gonna come back immediately and then the others were gonna be there for two weeks Like there was a whole scouting session on the travel portion of this and I'm like That seems like a total lie that seems like a total lie not not saying Peter Shrager made it up. No I'm like it seems like the rams would tell Peter Shrager they did this Just to have fun with them, but in the end they they were Basically punny on this game to begin with Well, that's that's that's your mystery theory. There's no way you could convince me that they took this game that seriously And I said that yesterday this wasn't just uh, oh, I saw the outcome of the game and now I'm changing my mind Like no, I think we all had this big debate about The science of sleep when in the end weren't the rams just kind of messing with everybody. Yeah, but like didn't take this week seriously They showed up as late as you could possibly show up for this game and the whole goal was hey, let's not get any injuries

11:23That's a hell of a theory and I don't think it's wrong Uh, I found it The part about the rams lost though. I found immensely satisfying if I can say it's it's twofold One, I do think that there is a brand of holier than now blogger that blogs about football that really doesn't spend time with people And it's it you know, it's always bothered me because it is the ultimate team game It is about relationships. It is about people and I don't think they have any like real Relationships and it's everything that is outside the box is the new way to do things And there's an arrogance there to it and I think Sean McVay is their Messiah of arrogance and starting to sound like somebody else I don't like sounding like that, but I think he's there like thing of arrogance that they just love Now I don't hate Sean McVay even though it sounds like I do I just think that Sean McVay has so many wild outside the box ideas with his football

12:23And the reason I'm satisfied and happy that they lost and lost so badly Was that it it dissuades teams from doing stupid things that they can get away with That the rams can get away with Like Sean McVay does things and other teams try it and it gets other guys fired for trying to do Sean McVay things Same thing with less need other teams try to do less need type of things and it gets guys fired or keeps you in Keeps you in a job for seven years like we've seen um Like that's what I don't like the other thing is that it happening gets the 49ers who are famous for what When that comes to travel They spend a week in youngstown, Ohio when they play on the east eastern time when they're three hours away They spend a week in youngstown when they have back to back They'll spend two weeks like we've seen in youngstown Well, though if they play in New York they'll fly to New York or the fly to youngstown Spend the week fly to New York come back and then go to Pittsburgh after something like that If they got two weeks on the east coast like they've done that before and so it didn't just happen against that team

13:26Against a team and happening against the team that's famous for We prepare for the time that we have because of all this stuff that's around You get what I'm saying. I do yeah, I probably lost no I get it, but what I'm saying is I don't I secretly wonder if the rams Oh, they put out all this stuff about all the studies they did on Travel and this and in the back of their minds are like had If we get the win gray, but we're not really that focused on this win And so you're like, oh did they did this poke a hole in all the rams thoughts and I'm like no no no no Maybe this is exactly what the rams know Possibly happy that's where I know I lost you because I didn't say any of that part at all about poking the hole in the rams I said what it does is it stops other teams from doing stupid things because when the rams do it It's ended up proving out. It's smart. They're a different organization. Yeah, but when I'm saying this was it stupid That's what I'm saying the rams whole thought could have been no that they're gonna come home and they are not gonna like

14:29Remember that the thought was well the 49ers have gotten so acclimated to being in Australia Maybe the rams like we don't want that to happen So if we lose the game we lose the game, but we're gonna come back and be a normal football fight Week six are you gonna see a difference in right how this game affected each team? This is what I'm pointing out. That's why I don't think he's crazy Everybody's trying to win the game. You're not saying they didn't try to win the game. I just don't think they cared if they lost Yeah, that's what yeah, that's what you're pointing out. I agree with you But Kyle Shanahan's never not gonna care about a game. Yeah, he's gonna treat all the Super Bowl Yeah, he's gonna try to win But if they didn't win, I don't think they're acting like this is the end of the earth think McVeigh is like, yeah It's it's one of 17. Yes I do think that because I think that we could be sitting there in the NFC championship game and Aaron Andrews is telling a story about how They basically used it as an experiment and lineman's of being right and does champions pose over everybody The thing that I don't like is that other teams try to do that and then they end up being foolish about it Case in point What was 2019 when we went out to San Francisco for Monday night football and we went out less than 24 hours beforehand

15:35And we were getting reports like I was falling asleep on the bus Now ended up being kind of a disinterested Bad football team But I didn't help that you went out like the like the night before the game you flew in You know three-hour time difference Like that was ridiculous and that was a John Dorsey thing as much as we like John Dorsey That was a that was a huge mistake by him huge mistake And it cost us dearly they played like garbage They look like garbage the whole thing was garbage and they made fun of you the whole time during that game Like the browns try things like that or other teams try things like the Rams do they get made fun of the Rams have built up enough currency Where they can do that and they're fine with it and they can't kill them for yeah You can't kill them for it because then it'll turn out like they'll still be good and they'll use that as an anecdote later on in a big football Super Bowl. We're gonna laugh at this Over coverage of what happened in Australia exactly exactly that's we are on the same page

16:36It took a minute to get there, but we are still on this we're we're on different paragraphs, but we're on the same page there But I think that yeah anybody can be you won't be thrilled about it you won't be happy yeah, yeah, go ahead that way Yeah, Gerald writer eight twenty two are you happy that miles play poorly last night And the Rams lost Did he get his come up in two years of Brown's fan two one six four seven four to below 92 and speaking of the Browns yesterday I picked him to win on Sunday and I've been getting harassed ever since Ken Carmen Anthony lime alive Get no fee That's the main thing I mean when I was out there I was a little bit more focused on No myself and trying to stay healthy then know what they were doing in that show I wasn't I wasn't who I needed to be know for my team every year I'm trying to focus on well Can I be a pro ball I can I be an all pro how can I you know get this at the third places just focusing on what getting this one And no getting this face win going out there winning even that game during games I'll be focused on how can we win this game and say just focus on this one

17:37All right, you guys can do this, but that's where I'm gonna leave it now That's where I'm gonna leave it That's where I'm leaving it because I'm telling you right now if they go out there and they get smashed on Sunday It's gonna turn it well least we got a ra ra speeches didn't we Ken? Oh, hey, that's okay You got your pick and you got your raw raw speeches and I'm gonna go now I was focused on himself and one guy is focused on his team and I heard the same thing focused on his team was over in Brea right I heard their ones Transit planica trans-Pacific you better bet your ass. He's 30,000 feet above your head You bastard while he's not on this side of the world yet. I have no idea where the hell they're flying at over But uh, yeah midway right now. Yeah They got them supersonic jets yet so they can put teams in London. No, okay That's a whole thing Yeah, just yeah what as Owen noticed one guy's talking about making the team better the other guy talked about making himself better

18:40But if I go any further on a team that I picked to win five games this year It's gonna turn into a well least we got a raw raw speeches Kenny and I Mm-hmm I'm playing the long game on that one, but don't think we didn't notice well done by Owen well done by everybody Hi, how are you you doing good? Oh, it's gonna be great when verse gets a couple of sacks in the opener If he gets two sacks in the opener well if he gets two sacks in the opener and they win I'm gonna be pretty excited because uh I've been getting harassed for nearly 48 24 hours now I was downstairs and J who This is one of the guys who run the convenience store He goes I picked the bronze on son ego. That's great now don't go saying that publicly because if you do You're gonna be getting killed for it on the internet like I've been he's laughing goes well I got no last 24 hours. I just been getting killed Just getting killed which some Jacksonville fans found it and then and I actually had a pleasant exchange like no I don't think your coach is bad. I don't think your team's bad whatsoever. You guys just we went Tony besides If I'm gonna pick no was actually the Maurice Jones true if I

19:43Cana McCartell came after me. It was crazy If this is guys this is maybe the one time I could pick the bronze this year The one game I can baby pick the bronze There is healthiest they're gonna be so you know what I'm gonna pick them Because you can't say I've been picking about the brown pick it against the bronze all year Which is not a reason to pick the bronze but I'm gonna pick the bronze because of it and Yes, my history is blamed right on me, but I'm going I'm looking at some of the replies on the video yesterday that Keith put out. I'm going Well, why didn't necessarily call my shot but I picked the bronze to win fine because you got to make a choice Don't you but the second thing of it is is that go you know They're both professional football teams that the Jacksonville Jaguars could come out flat It tends to be a sloppy game Hopefully we're not a sloppy if we're not a sloppy We can run the ball with any decency which means that DeShon Watson's gonna have to be way better than what he was And against the third team of the Buffalo bills my god is gonna end up making me look real bad. I don't care. I don't care

20:44If we can do any of those things then we can we can win the game And it'd be nice. There's been plenty of bad teams like the Las Vegas Raiders last year who started out one and oh Against a team that played in the Super Bowl So I I understand we have it one and open with a new head coach since Bud Carson I got it. Well, I want to highlight today yesterday those Why could you not? I mean it was a great day. It was such a throwback. It was Chris Burman and Tom Jackson And I don't even know if it was called NFL prime time, but it was like some some earlier version of that and it was awesome But I need to know if anybody else is is picking because this is as This is as negative as I've seen Brown's fans to start a season and 15 years on the fan I mean that well what percentage of the fan base thinks are starting the worst quarterback. Oh well It's not that they so how many teams how many teams do that? It's not that there's some way we've been on the air when we felt that they

21:45They've started a worse quarterback. It's that they openly dislike that quarterback that they're starting that's true Yeah, both both they think he's worse and they don't like him and they root against and I and they want him to be out of a browns And that's where I start to think I go are there people They consider themselves Browns fans and it's not like we've been talking like don't say tank don't say tank don't say tank I don't think it's even about tanking They don't like this guy They think he's a waste of time. He has been a waste of time by the way They don't like this guy. He's been a waste of time and the sooner his time with this team comes to an end the better And I do believe there are die in the wool browns fans who will go to games in 2026 and 27 and 28 and so on and so forth And they love this football team and they have brown stuff all over their house and they have brown stuff in their cars And they're hoping this guy goes out there and he fails because they want to be done with it and if they feel that way

22:46Because it's going to end this this charade sooner I really can't say anything to defend the guy other than well you're a bet are they a bad fan because they've been through a lot of crap For how many years so I can't necessarily call them a bad fan But they still consider themselves browns fans not can't hold me at times. I've called you a bad fan when I've rooted for the browns to lose The end of the season yes to get rid of a coach that was at times a bounce in organization and I Structure but well, I still can't bring myself to do those things But this is this is different man like I just think in past I think they go we need to be better We don't they didn't like how things were going with kevans to fanski at the end or how things were going with with huge acts of the they openly dislike this man There is such a difference before there was I don't think this guy does a good job We got to get rid of them now. It's not they just don't think he doesn't do a good job. They don't like him

23:46And they want him gone and so if I pick them to win See that's one more game that he gets And cuz he would definitely start the next week they want it over especially if he looks good see This will be an interesting predicament for browns fans and I know the way he's talked about in this town People have eliminated the possibility that he's good or could be good or could even have a good game Malice in the afternoon show and they they make it sound like he couldn't even walk out there from the sideline to the huddle Call the play get the playoff and complete a pass Like he can't be that bad like he wouldn't be starting if he was that bad right find out he may very well be that well They would just start the other guy if he was that bad right right I would tend to agree with you But you keep asking me right like you want me to affirm you because you have questions yourself I do have major questions you like to play you like to play therapist with me Let me give you some therapy over here. You seem to be asking me a lot of things to try to affirm you Cuz I think you feel the same way that a lot of fans do you ain't gonna pick the browns on Sunday yard No, why aren't you gonna pick the browns? I mean a big part of it is the quarterback exactly

24:49So a lot of people think I'm lying to myself when I picked the browns or I'm just going back on a year's of being a homer Yeah, I know what I am. I'm not gonna sit there and deny what I am I'm not denying that I'm not all of a sudden mr. Hardass down the line radio guy I'm not doing that at all. Yes, I want the teams here to win and I I think you do too But this is the one game. I know I can pick with some Confidence that they can win. Well, I'm gonna pick well the other side of it that I keep coming back to is if they looked good If they look like this well-oiled machine in a way that the Rams didn't certainly in the way that the Seahawks and the Patriots did not look Three out of the four teams in the opener already if they look good Think about all the conversations. Yeah, we are gonna be having on Monday About the receivers the offensive line the defense Jared verse the new defensive coordinator Like we are gonna be feeling really good about a lot of things and yeah, you might have to swallow it when it comes to

25:51Oh boy, are we gonna be in for more games with Deshan Watson? But it also comes With all the other stuff that you're gonna be feeling good about and I think for a week browns fans should be okay with There's there are several flaws that people find in my logic They just think the team's bad. Okay. All right The biggest flaw that I can find in my logic is that I I don't think he's a very good quarterback And I do think a lot of people think he has to play very well for them to win games And I think in week two he'll have to play well I think in week one. I think it's a wild card game. I think it's a crap shoot. Well, can time-moking I really can time-moking that's that's his job That's his job is to mitigate that mitigate that yeah, can he take the onus off of The Shaw Watson and not put the entire game and the fortunes of the team honest that you'll have to and that's why not turning the ball over Is so definitely important for this team like you watched Jacksonville two years ago Mitigated is unmitigated disaster. I know we're saying that word all the time

26:51Turnovers like crazy last year they eliminated a lot of the turnovers like Trevor Lawrence had 4,000 yards and 29 touchdowns and 12 picks It's it's a good it's a really good year don't give you wrong But it's not I'm a Holmes really good year. It's not an Allen really good year It was a really good year part of the reason that helped them to get the 13 and 4 is that they eliminated turnovers If we could just protect the F and football and not turn the ball over and give ourselves a chance to keep our defense off the field And not give them a short field by doing stupid things then we're going to have ourselves a chance to win At least week one yes Anthony when you ask can Todd mitigate that or eliminate that or you talking about Todd the offensive play color or Todd the head coach because I don't know if those are two different things right now. We're the same we have explain. Can you oh get can you can you explain that five minutes explain that five It's I want to know if there's anybody else Who who really thinks the Browns are gonna win our foam on an island here to foam on an island. That's fine I'm not taking anything back. I'm not gonna let I'm not gonna succumb to peer pressure

27:51I'm gonna tell you right now. I probably won't pick him next week and I probably won't pick him the rest of the year I think there's one game I can pick him for and I'm picking him this week 216 474 0092 and if you think I'm dumb Welcome to the club of everybody else On will give you your membership cards by the end of the day Ken Carm and Anthony Lyme alive in the fan There's a lot of reasons why if this were week 8 I go yeah I don't take the bear war spun tell you right now if you don't take the browns. I think this week's the week to take the browns You say it browns you money line You say I respect the browns with the points or take the browns to win. Oh, you just get taken away. I'm gonna take the win A moment of reflection before Nathan Zagura Nathan will join us at 905 today at nine o'clock Well, the moment of reflection across all our families and stations here Certainly on 92 3 the fan. It's been 25 years since the tragedy in 9 11 Everybody here remembers exactly where they were at. I know that there's some young people who have heard the story second hand

28:56I know we've talked about John. I think John was born what just before it I would go just after yeah, I was listening to Lanagan and Malone I was listening to Lanagan Malone I was not at Ohio State yet. I was still here because Ohio State started so late and I had a shift at the golf course and I still to this day cannot believe I was at the golf course when Obviously everybody was glued to the news, but people were golfing and these guys made the turn and They're like what's going on over there? You know cell phones weren't as prevalent right and I'm like We've had a terrorist attack and they go all right, so what is it cost to make the turn? I've already paid this much money. Do you pro-rated for the back? Well, that's I'm like No, I don't think you understand what's happening right now I'm not appointed to make about the previous conversation, but let me just say this like that's got out was Because I remember so I forgot that you are older than me because I was like I'm in high school

29:57I want you in school is like wait no limo is actually an adult at this time So I was 15 and I had a broken leg From the scrimmage and I was and I had yeah, I didn't chop him I did not do the Tomahawk chop you ask Which by the way The trader is my son's gym teacher. I'm about to have him call in and tell the story Thank you very much. There was no Tomahawk chop. Might have been a thumbs up. I don't remember I've always been a showman. What are you gonna do? Um So I got a I had surgery and there like we had an elevator in school like hey like you don't need to go up to study hall Just go to the guidance office in the main office and they got like a small library and there and you can sit in there and do whatever And it was great and then I remember Somebody had set a plane flew into the tower And the why forget the one guidance counselor's name he's like jumps up because he was like a career veteran And he's like what the hell like he was an older man He goes what the hell and like he came like flying down the hallway and everybody's like whoa easy relax probably an accident

31:02And we found out it wasn't an accident And then it was just the TVs were on the rest of the day and it was just it was just a wild scene that kind of just Everything else go I remember the the initial moment but everything else just goes together Oh, and obviously was in the air force in his life I was in charge of the 90th fighter squadron for about 14 minutes his life changed forever And we see minutes until the next time a second guy came in and then he was in charge And as many as as many times as as we bust balls and glare at each other From this room to that room Owen is a Owen is a patriot to find man and a fine friend and we are lucky to know him Because the things changed for him dramatically that day as well as for a lot of people So we will have our moment of reflection coming up at nine o'clock across our family of stations And then at 905 Nathan's gonna join us and we'll get set for uh we'll get set for week one Oh, and you had I thought you this is what I think Monkins biggest challenges. I think you're gonna hit it. Yeah, so Anthony had brought up before the break that you know

32:04Hopefully Monk can can help mitigate or eliminate some of the Problems that DeShon Watson could potentially run into in these game in this game against Jacksonville and I hope that's true But I don't know are you talking about Todd Monk and the play collar and just helping DeShon offensively are you talking about Todd Monk and the head coach? Is really charged with making sure this whole thing um Doesn't go off the rails like it like I think most people expected to go when you look at the point spread and all that It's eight and a half It's the second or third biggest point spread in uh in the NFL this weekend And it's his first time. I know like Rootonberg brought it up yesterday And I think switzer brought it up as well that Monkins had called plays as a head coach with Southern Miss Well, that was over a decade in a much different scenario than it is now While I've Grunder's spec Todd From what we know of him so far

33:06Until I see it. I don't know if I can believe it all it is mainly because Kevin Stofansky has me so Gunshot you have brought up you're you're right about this you have brought up a Scenario that we haven't had talked about a long time and we've talked about with other coaches like I've actually been pretty critical of Shane Steikin and watching the Indianapolis cults over the last couple of years And I thought that he I thought that he kind of got out of that last year and it was better for him But I also think that at times when they're under duress You can tell certain things what he's not necessarily thinking about managing the game Most of these guys come from off and most head coaches anymore come from offensive backgrounds Don't hey, I don't like it that much, but it's true And the biggest challenge I think an offensive coordinator has to go through and I don't care if they're 30 years old Like great you did ski will is or if they're 60 years old like Todd Monkiness It's how do you Train yourself to go into game management mode because for an offensive coordinator you are paid to get yards and score points

34:10First downs yards points. You don't care about clock management You don't care about timeouts you're paid to diagnose a defense to use your talent that you have to move the ball down the field And score points and when you're an offensive coordinator you have a head coach ahead of you that goes whoa Easy I have to overrule you because I have to take advantage of the clock I have to take a look at the clock like it's an offensive coordinator You don't care about getting the defense to rest as a head coach you do like we got to get some first downs here We got to elongate this dry complimentary football because we have to compliment the defense because they just came off the field All right, we can't be doing this and what all in brings up is a sincere concern that we don't know until Sunday Whether or not Todd Monkiness going to actually be able to do that before it's been game scenario In it's been it's been practice. It's been glorified practice This is a situation where say they get up by 10 You got eight minutes left to go in the first quarter Are you try or you got eight minutes left to go in the fourth quarter?

35:11Are you roasting the ball down the field and putting us in a bad position? Or are we trying to Manage the clock and also not look like we're sitting on the football and playing to not to lose instead of playing to win Like you have to fight all those emotions Why your offense is on the field because I don't know the situation right off the top my head of what our defense is going to come out of But Todd Monkiness by that time will and he'll have to manage these things That's a very difficult thing to do for a guy who has been paid and has made a lot of money And has made a good name for himself by getting first downs a massing yards a massing points and getting echo Accolades for his for his offensive players That's a huge challenge. I think that's that's actually a really fascinating part of the game We haven't really talked about this week But yes going from just being the OC where you're only focused on one thing to the totality of the game I totally agree Kenny 216 474 to below 92 I want to there are people in here. I want to know whether or not you agree with me or I'm a total idiot You can't agree with me. It's still think I'm a total idiot for all the other things

36:12I'm taking the Browns the simple fact of the reasons I gave you also I think this is the only time I'm going to be able to take the Browns all year with confidence with any sort of confidence and I think there are a lot of people they could tell it's not a huge amount of confidence 216 474 to below 92 Darrell Ryder 820 and Did the NFL finally go too far and we also got a QB tracker where like it or not fair or not Somebody might get crossed off the list tomorrow afternoon or tomorrow evening over in Texas can crime and Anthony Lionel live in the