BB28 1000th Episode Thursday Eviction Recap LIVE at RHAPCon, Week 7

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1:05Yeah! Come to your life from Milwaukee with content and Rob has a podcast. And now, here's the guy who's about to present the Guinness Book of World Records for worst twists. I'm Rob Sisternino. Everybody, how are you doing? Okay, they were so much better, like, 10 minutes ago. Of course, wait till you hear how loud they clap for him. It's Darren Armstrong! Rob, I watched the video last night and this didn't work too well, but I think I have to do it again because what the... What was that?

2:06A lot of screaming here. Just to set the scene, we are live here with about 500 or so of our closest friends. We're having the vibes where I'm maculate. We're having so much fun. Everybody's like, yes, big brother, 1000. Then we got to the blockbuster. Yeah. That didn't go great. And then we got twist and it was like, okay, okay, okay. And then Julie said, by the way, no feeds for three days. Yeah, that was pretty lame. They don't respect you when it shows. No, they don't. Well, they're just mad that I have more episodes than them. Yes! Closing in. Guinness... Most live feed-up data episodes. Most live feed-up data episodes? Sure. Time show, competitive reality. We're gonna competitive show. Yeah. Where's that guy with the plaque?

3:07We have to pay for it. They paid for it. They paid for it. Yes, okay, so congratulations to big brother on 1000 episodes. And we have a lot to talk about from a live eviction. The 1000th episode celebration, which was mostly fun. A lot to recap there. But Taryn, that I guess, that celebrating 1000 episodes of big brother, it goes hand in hand for them to maybe... They treat you so good. It's a little bit like being in the crossovers, right? It's like, uh, something. It's like, they love us. They love us. We're eating. And other days, it's like, yeah, so we're gonna have to take away the live feeds for three days. I think that's why Barrett resonates so much with so many people. Mm-hmm. Because we all hate that he just rolls over, but at the end of the day, that's what we do. They know he's gonna come back. They know he's not going anywhere. Yeah. Okay. Uh, but let's get your take on this. It sounds like we are headed towards some sort of

4:08dire fest meets the hamster wheel of death where... Two fan favorites. Two fan favorites where alumni are also visiting from the overhead to... So it should be a big episode on Sunday, but what's your reaction to everything? Yeah, you know, I mean, listen, we watched the 1000 episode special bit at the start of this, and it was really cool. It was like, it was emotional. It was, you know, reminding you of the last 26 years of watching the show if you've been doing it or maybe the, you know, last month of your life, you could just finish it all. And it's really cool, and there's a really something special here with the show. It does, it feels insulting to end the episode on... Now we're gonna do something completely different. We're gonna completely remove every staple that the show has. H-O-H, V-D-O, nominations, whatever else. And also we're taking away the live feeds for three days. Like, how is that the big thing that you have been pumping up

5:12for weeks now, your 1000th episode, a celebration of your show, to not even explain what the twist is, to then be like, and we're gonna surprise you, we're gonna take this away, and surprise you on Sunday with this thing that's very different. Like, even if it's good, it just doesn't feel good as fans. And that's kind of what we're used to when production is involved. They don't really seem to care much about how the people who really love the show feel, or at least the people who are deeply involved in the show, on a very day-to-day basis. And that's frustrating. It's frustrating. Right, it's going to be a pivotal moment, potentially, and somebody is going to go home. We're gonna lose another person, and then there's really not gonna be much of a record of how that's gonna go for three days. Yeah. Yeah. So it's frustrating. I mean, listen, I'm really tired. So, secretly, I kind of love it when the live feeds go down.

6:17It really is. I feel like I just got nominated, and I was actually kind of hoping to get nominated, but it's the way they did it. You know what I mean? It's the way they said that in this speech. If it wasn't for that, I'd be totally fine with this. Yeah. I mean, for your personal travel schedule, they timed it really well. They really did. They really did. That's a nice help for you. I mean, listen, they took my money, but there was really a monkey's paw, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. So, at least sometimes a recharge for the home stretch. But for it to happen this way, I mean, I guess there is some interesting context in terms of that there is a way that one of the icons could potentially go out in this twist. We don't know what it's going to be, Rachel. We'll also be lame, though. Like, that's the whole thing. Even if it's a result that you want, it happening in a way that isn't the natural state of things on the show feels cheap. You know what I mean? It doesn't feel earned. It's exactly what happened with the Kudai Ta.

7:18But listen, that's how we feel. And at the end of the day, also, for as much as I'm like, yeah, this is the day-to-day people. This episode was the 1,000th episode also for the people who watched the show regularly. Who don't pay attention to the feeds, who aren't here for a live show. And those people do matter as well. And they love the Kudai Ta. And they love it all. And so, you know, we can only complain too much. This show means a lot to a lot of different kinds of people. And so, you know, we can be frustrated here. But it's still a little bit... It was a celebration of 1,000 episodes, not necessarily 2,300 days of live feeds. A lot more than 1,000 days. Yes. Yeah. So Sunday night, do we know, is it a super-sized episode? It's a... We're headed towards a normal 1-hour episode. Sam is holding a one. Jack, give me the answer. 1-hour episode on Sunday. It's okay. All right. Yeah, you know, it seems as though they're going to be outside. It seems as though we're going to, you know,

8:18again, like skip the process. I'd kind of speculated some kind of like tournament, which actually kind of fits the medieval theme a little bit, right? Yeah. Like, we're seeing some kings and some queens. I'm wondering if it's like they, on high, or orchestrating some kind of tournament where people are competing for their lives in some way or another. I could see that being something that they might do. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Do you think that whatever they're doing will transpire over, say, like, 24 hours, and then they need that time to edit the Sunday episode? Or do you feel... And then they just want to keep it a surprise of who went home? Yeah, I think so. I think that they will be doing it tonight. They'll probably be finished by tomorrow. Because why would they change their schedule? Right. They can change our schedule. Well, because I know that there's a celebration also going on with the 1,000 episodes. True. So I'm not sure how that's going to work. That's not our problem to figure out. No, it's their problem to figure out.

9:19That's their problem to figure out. Okay. All right. So that's the backdrop for where things are going. We really, there was a lot of excitement on Buzz in the streets of that Drew. There's the Drew Eviction party here tonight, which also got canceled. Yeah, we all learned the truth. We learned the truth. And Drew is now 2 for 2 in the blockbuster. Yeah. But unfortunately, that we did not get the flip. Was everything set up for Drew to go home? Yes. So first of all, there will be a live feed update tomorrow. Regular time. We'll have an excellent interview with the pipe queen. And then another live live feed update. Thank you, big brother, for making that less interesting. But still interesting. We'll talk through the day today. There was some stuff to talk about. And then we'll make a show of it. It'll be a good time to make sure you tune in. But yes, the bottom line is, through the day, nothing had changed significantly to the plan to evict Drew.

10:23And it almost seemed like maybe he knew something might have been up. But I think by the end of it, probably not. Well, I would say we'll see you tomorrow. But we'll see on Sunday. We saw a very emotional reaction from Barrett, who voted to a victailer. Were the crossovers expecting Barrett to vote with them to take out Mallory? No, we saw the scene. He had told them I'm not doing it. You can do it if you want. I'm not going to do it. I talked about this this morning. They did hear from Hayley because Barrett tried to pitch Hayley on keeping Mallory over Taylor that he was doing this. And Hayley was like, I think he wants to get rid of Drew too. They were like, no, come on. And they had this big meeting. So I think absolutely what they will do is they will try to be like, I know that sucks so much, Barrett. And now I know you don't have anybody else. So come back home. When you look at me, you can see home.

11:24What? When you look at me, you can see home. What? When you look at the pipe queen, you can screen. Yes. Will there be any ramifications for Barrett going against them or you think that they're understanding that ultimately didn't matter? Well, this is the thing. Ramifications matter when the game operates normally. Yeah. An HOH wins. And who that HOH is depends on. Then cascades the effect of who needs to be worried, who needs to explain themselves. If Barrett wins the HOH, then it's the vets being like, we're so sorry, Barrett. We never meant to do, we never meant to burn you like that. If the icons win, if Devin's wins, then Barrett's like, yeah, I was really upset about Mallory, but I'm actually so chill now.

12:25And if nobody's HOH, and then they're just competing or whatever, then none of that needs to happen. There's no strategy that needs to happen. I was just thinking about last season with the white locus that they brought in poor Tyler to somehow be involved with the killing off of Rachel. And now this season, we're going to have this twist, which may be unpopular. And now we're going to kind of like wander it through your most favorite alumni in the history of the show are actually doing this. I believe you have a prompt. Yeah, maybe Kiana. Same as line. Yeah. And so if you want to hear about what they're doing, of course, you could check out a lot of them around chat BCC at go to bb28.chat to see what's going on, including a chat toe BCC tomorrow night, where they're playing a big brother game for $10,000 tomorrow night. It's a lot of dollars. It's a lot of dollars, more than the bribe.

13:26More than just double the bribe. Yeah. All right, Tara, I want to bring some people up. Any other top level thoughts from tonight? Yeah, you know what? I think the main thing is, I know that we were all kind of coming into this episode, looking forward to the drama of a potential blind side. But there's something to actually the Drew said when he was nominated by Haley that actually proved to be very true for Drew that week. He said, I'd rather be lucky than good. And he is not good. Did you get lucky? Yeah, in the blockbuster. Did he nail it or he just got lucky? He looked at one clue. He guessed, right? And here's the thing. He had been talking about maybe throwing this to Mallory. Because in his mind, Mallory winning meant that Taylor would leave and he would be safe, and that Mallory would be safe. He won the Mallory would leave. And that's why when he won, he was tearful because he just ruined Mallory's chances. I really think there's a chance that his goal in that competition was I'm going to guess one of the two answers,

14:28I believe this is the case, and hope that Mallory picks the other one so that one of us wins this. I'm OK with me getting this wrong and her getting it. But he got it right. The coin flip. It's always coming down to coin flip. Let's keep down to the coin flip with him. OK, all right. Well, this is actually really cool. And I guess by the magic of the 1,000 episode of Big Brother, we're able to do this. But we have a special guest here tonight. Straight out of the Big Brother 28 house, it's Angela. Angela. Yes, Angela. Sure. What? No. It's the stock. I never thought you'd end up in a one hundred year.

15:29Angela, are you OK? Give it up for Angela. Yeah. 1,000 episodes. I don't know how I got away with not being called crazy eyes. Yeah. All right. We got some panelists here to come on and talk about everything that's going on. Let's welcome back. It's Pooja and Maggie and I'm on. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Oh, a Maggie chance. From my friends. Yes. We're all your friends here. Yes. OK. How's everybody doing? I'm good. The feats are on right now, so that's good. Yes. OK. Don't fall further.

16:30Crumbs. I know. Yeah. Wait, are they? Yeah. They're pleased. Yeah, no, they're sorry. I have a great idea for the live feed update on Sunday, which is that Chappie CC game, right? Isn't that the... When is that... Is that Saturday? That could be Friday night. OK, then never mind. Listen, maybe it could be Saturday. Yeah. At some point. All right. So... All right, I'm on. How are you feeling? Well... I mean, for my draft, OK. Yeah, that was good. What about... What about was tonight a bit of a coming out party for Barrett? Listen, I... I don't care at this point. Oh! I really don't. I'm sorry. I know that there are some Barrett people out here. And that's fine. Be who you are. The tears, the...

17:32The late ass, let's flip this shit. It's falling on just like death ass, excuse me, hard of hearing ass hears. I'm just... I just can't right now. I can't. I can't. I can't. Yeah. OK. Yeah. I don't know. Like I said earlier, I better late than never with me sometimes. Like, you're doing something. I should take... I accept that. I mean, I do too when I get it, but like, at the same time, I want you to feel the consequences of your action. So like, for Mallory, like, she's a great girl, lovely gowns, beautiful gowns, but... Oh, well. It was time for you to go, honey. And you did it to yourself. So for Barrett as well? Yeah. If you can't pick up, like, the pieces after putting all of them behind the vets this entire time, and your game ends up being crappy for whatever this twist is going to be, you did it to yourself. So I just don't have sympathy.

18:34Like, I just don't. Yeah. I mean, OK. I actually... I am into what's going on with Barrett right now, honestly, mostly just because he is a part of our community. So I was feeling quite sad that I was like, wait, he's one of us. Like, he knows what he needs to do. And then he got activated. And I was like, OK, great. Like, he is one of us. He knows what he's doing, and who knows how it's going to work out in the end. But like, I feel proud of our Barrett, you know? Like, he really is. I don't know. I'm very proud of him that he was at least trying something. Because for a while, I was kind of like, and he's doing nothing. So I'm happy that it was a coming out party for him, and I hope that he can continue down this path. And, you know, I was key of little faith, and I love to be proven wrong. I've said that many times, and I'm excited to see what Barrett can do, you know, sort of down the way. Yeah, I mean, the thing with Barrett is like, the reason

19:34we were frustrated with him is that he was throwing these HOHs. He was bowing to the Vets wishes at every turn, and it put him in this position where he was like 127 days. And he was like, I'm stuck. I've got to cut off a limb, which limb is it going to be? They want me to cut off my right leg. So screw them. I'm going to cut off my left leg. And it's like, yeah, go Barrett. It's like, I think we need to see him actually move forward and take a strike at the other side, and like, actually start making some moves if he has the ability to. I'd love to also talk about the loss of Mallory, who I think we all liked her spunk, and we liked her fire, and we liked her. Yes, I would like to go dancing with Mallory. This is a formal invitation. Come to Bushwick, let's go dancing, right? Like, she's so fun, you know? Yeah. I mean, you addressed that to me. Like, I would go dancing in Bushwick, but- No, no, I think you're the one talking about her.

20:35Sure. I think we should mosh with Mallory. Yeah. Should we like that? I think. I think that would be good. First off, everything. But that being said, Mallory, like, I don't know. I mean, listen, Julie talks to Mallory, and Julie made a point. She didn't exactly smack her on the back of her head. Exactly. But she said, Mallory, set the record straight. Did you try your hardest in that HOH competition? And Mallory had to sit there and say, no, I didn't. And I probably should have. And we need this. Because Mallory literally watched a TikTok of somebody saying, don't throw competitions. And she still did. And now we have, in the episode, somebody literally standing there, do not throw competitions. This is what happens. You need to take your fate into your own hands and actually do something in the game. Don't be worried about who you're going to nominate.

21:38You have to nominate people. You have to do these things. What are you there for if not to win power and make moves? Yes. So yes. Yeah, I guess you could say, Teran, and maybe we're trying to find the silver lining in tonight. This was the marquee 1,000th episode. And that means probably a lot. But you're going to remember this episode. That's the takeaway. That should be the takeaway. Do not stand in your own way. Really don't. Because you have the opportunity to do things in this game, whether you try it late or not, better late than ever. You could have done something. You didn't. You get to be the 1,000th episode boot. Let this be a lesson to everybody else. Don't let that happen to you. Yes. There's been so much conversation this episode too about, are we going to keep it in the family, with big brother and survivor. And the thing that I love about survivor is that it feels like it's a constant war between people. Keep it cute, I'm on. It feels like it's a constant war between the producers

22:38and the players about trying to outsmart one another and the game evolves very quickly over there. And I feel like we are on the same curriculum for big brother for so many of these faux pas that we see here after year after year. So yes, I echo, it's Aaron and Puyas said earlier, Julie, drag the hell out of them. Make these mistakes so visible so that no one does them again so that we can stop having these conversations. Because when players get smarter than production, and let's be serious, it's a low-ass bar, no offense. When they get smarter, the game will get better because it'll be forced to make twists that actually make sense. So I just, yeah. Yeah. Well, here's where I'm with Mallory, right? Because for as much as we say, the survivors, they're not afraid to piss people off. They're making moves, the game evolves quickly. This should have been D last week. She was bailed out by a diamond power of veto. She did the exact same thing that Mallory did, made the exact same mistake, was put in the exact same position. But she was bailed out by a twist, and Mallory was not, despite them both being voted by America.

23:41Such a good point, Terran. And you know what? I would also scream if that happened to me. All right. Maggie, Puya, Amon, anything else you want to say? Happy 1000, everybody. Happy 1000. 1000. What a special episode to watch with that guy. It's so cool to be here with all of you for that in 1,000 episodes. Let's bring on. We got another panel coming up here. We have Chantel, Mari, and Asia. How are you? How are you? Good, good. Good, good. All right. How's everybody doing? Good, great. Great. A little terri-eyed. That was a great episode. Minus some of the results. Yes. What was the thing that got you the most terri-eyed? Definitely not just a montage, but seeing the awards. And I have to say the cookout winning Best Alliance. Yes. Yes. Amazing.

24:42Because I will reiterate that is the most dominant alliance in your big brother history. Not close. The only alliance to get every single member to the end and did it in such a way that they dominated the game were nice to people. You know what I'm saying? They fought amongst themselves. And they still do. I think Sarah Beth might disagree. Well, you know what? But we got, they're cool now. It's fine. Yeah. It's fine. And they did it in an entertaining way as well. They had that house turned upside down. People didn't know what was happening. And it was just amazing to watch. So if anybody else had won that, write it. And I don't think it'll ever be duplicated. No. No way. No. And it was history-making. And I think seeing them on different magazines spreads and seeing how it just so well received by everyone, it's like, I feel like it's such an honor to have experienced that and see it still playing out. So very proud.

25:42Yes. Yeah. And very cool to see it. Because again, in this community, obviously, we were all like Daniel Rez. Obviously, you should win the best and ever win. We obviously would say cook out. But the fact that this was on the show recognized by those TV viewers that we were talking about, that's really cool. That's really special. And it was really, really cool to see them all up there five years later. Look, it's like a fun dynamic between all of them. Where they podcast together all the time. So they have the banter built in. But I feel like everybody has their lane of what they're going to. And I felt that they all were really fun with Julie. Big D was on great laugh lines. So that was so cool. And the six of them are so different.

26:43I feel like a lot of times you see alliances where naturally you'll come together for like, these are people you would gravitate to in the real world. Well, the cook out, a lot of them probably wouldn't be friends in the real world if they met just naturally. Like think of how much conflict Tiffany and Big D had. But what they. And present tense. And present. And all of them. All of them. But they just showed how hard it is to replicate what they did. Because it only took one. Only one of them had to be the one to be like, oh, no, I'm going to just go with Sarah Beth. Oh, no, I'm just going to go with Claire. Like this is what's best for my game because I actually came here for myself. I actually didn't know who y'all were before going into this game. But the fact that they did it for the bigger cause knowing, look, we've never had an opportunity where six Black people have been in the house at the same time

27:44in order to ensure that we can get our first Black winner of proper US Big Brother. It's amazing. Yes. And the mission being what kept them together, even through the arguments and all of the drama. And we've never had six Black people since. Yeah. Yeah. So never again. They said never again. Never again. But seeing that and seeing it done in such a way that people had no clue. Again, was very, very like to me entertaining. I know some people might have thought it was like a steam roll. But the fact that they had to continually be like, yes, this is my person. This is my person. But this mission, we've got to stick to the mission. So it's the six of us. That's another reason why I will never be replicated because the mission is complete.

28:44And it's been surpassed as we've seen the last three winners. We have Taylor. We have Ashley. Yes. I would have held it up. Yeah, yeah. Two, you know, like it's been great. Jack, maybe. I mean, but Jack, I know. I know. The diversity. I know. I mean. You know what I mean? Every season. Every season since then, people have talked about the structure of the cookout. They always talk, this is just like the cookout guys. Will do you be just like the cookout guys? They don't understand it. They don't understand what it takes to actually hold that structure in the way that it was held. They all want to replicate it, but none of them can. Were there any of the other awards that were given out tonight that were interesting? Well, the favorite big brother winner going to Dan, that was, I mean, that was, I was like, yeah. And that was kind of a given.

29:45I mean, I think I voted for Taylor, but I completely understood why Dan won. And it was great seeing him up there. Yeah, I was interesting seeing Janelle win. And Janelle. Yeah, like I can get like, Comp Beast. But best to ever win, I feel like, I don't know how often she's in that conversation. I know she's played, you know, 15 times. But like, it's impressive. The stats that Julie read off. But I don't know. I just felt like the people, she had some tough competition. Well, I was surprised it wasn't Daniel Reyes, especially considering that Daniel Reyes was just on. Big brother unlocked. She had done traders more recently. That was a negative. You think that was a negative against Daniel for the big brother people? For the, yeah, I think like the people who watch in the TV show probably never even saw Daniel Reyes on Big Brother. He probably saw her on traders. And unjustly didn't like that. Yeah, OK. And unfortunately.

30:47I did like the format of having like an award show here on the first half hour. I thought that that was kind of cool. They probably could have leaned into that more in terms of like what they ultimately ended up doing. Like, probably could have been like its own episode instead of trying to shoehorn it into an actual eviction night. I guess that's not the 1,000 episode. That's the way the cookie crumbles. I just like, where was the best showman's award cowards? Oh, wow. I should clear, I wasn't going to be a cow. Something. If people were still together, I'd love to have seen where are they now and who is the best couple and the best gift. We all know where it was going. Lyric and Rome. Yeah. Right. Is that you? Yeah, Jack. Yeah. Lyric and Rome, they really carried a lot of water for them in the montage. They really got a lot. They did. They got a lot. That montage was so nice. Like just being reminded of every like the highs and lows of this show over 20, 26 years, right? They said, 26 years. It was amazing.

31:47I truly was like hearing up. I was like, oh my god, this is why we love Big Brother. And then immediately following, we are. Dreams are crazy. This is Big Brother. I'm trying. Yeah. Oh, in one episode, I understand. It was really nice to see that those of us, in this room, we're all really big fans, right? So seeing all the moments that we love in a door and that montage was really cool because I feel like a lot of times we think the show doesn't really connect with the super fans. And it's like, oh, I was expecting to see moments that we have forgotten about. But I was really excited that it was just like a whole collection of just like, I want to watch it again. Yeah. OK. Yeah. Asia, Mari, Chantelle. Thank you so much. Thank you. OK, we'll see you soon. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Now let's bring in. We have Mike, and Kirsten, and Grace. How's everybody doing? I am a hunky-dory because I was watching

32:49feeds and melodies pissed at Drew. Oh, my God. Yes? He went into hugger. I just said, don't touch me. Can I say? I'm not a live feeder. And I sometimes feel a little bad about that. I know everyone can boo. But at Wisconsin, I've been watching in the basement. I think today I'm going to get into the live feed. You can't just drop. Yeah. You can't just drop watching in the basement with no context. Yeah, the next few days I'm going to watch the live feed. It's not so. We do keep her in the basement. You just weren't supposed to tell anybody. Oh, my God. It's the way Rob said, how are you doing? And I just want to be like, no, well, bitch. Sorry. That's OK. All right. What's on your mind from tonight? I, like, we could have had it all. All of it. Like, this is exactly. Big brother has only ever done this to me personally. They set you up, and then they don't give you what you want.

33:49This is Big Brother. This is Big Frickin' Brother. Nothing's could remind me of our- Big Frickin' Brother. Like, I had my hopes up and they were dashed. It always happens. And, you know what, we're going to be OK. It could turn out OK. It could be fun. Yeah. That's the dream. It won't. Yeah. And I know it won't. But we go into this situation where we're going to have some sort of unconventional eviction here. And so, Taryn, you talked about this as you went through all of the different scenarios of, like, looking for all the loopholes in the deal that Yash made with Dee. And one of the things you did talk about was that, like, well, it doesn't say anything about a hamster wheel of death. And I wonder, could there possibly be a way for Yash to go after the vets if he would be so bold? I'm imagining it right now. Like, they're dressed in, you know, medieval armor,

34:50right, suits of armor. And they're doing some kind of battle. They physically fight. They turn to Yash. And they're like, oh, well, Yash, you have to keep us safe on your next date. Show H. And he says, I'm no H-O-H. Oh, ha, ha, ha. Straight up King of Ingmar, that shit. Exactly. Yeah. Can I throw a possible cockamany theory as to what it could be? Please. Because I think this is for me a theory. Makes sense. And let me just clarify here, I am no authority on this. OK? I have no idea what's going to happen. But I think when you think about medieval times, besides a drunken experience, you probably have with your fraternity down the street. And you do think about tournaments. I also think personally about the plague. OK. That's not fair. You're always thinking about the plague. You would say that all the time. Yes. It's his Roman Empire. So I think about the idea of passing something from person to person. Could we have a safety chain on Sunday?

35:52I think it might be too soon. I think COVID is too close behind us for that. Yeah. But that was certainly in celebrity big brother, big brother on TV. On one. I mean, on one. I think they're just taking, they're going to take the things we hate the most and can buy them. So it's going to be like janky worlds, plus the white locust, plus, I don't know, something else we hate. If they want to bring in something we love, they could do like a regular game. Diar fest. A silent thing. Does the safety chain, is there any work, like the person who's most at the bottom sort of has to win for it to be best case scenario? Like, Teran, is there a good outcome in a safety chain scenario? Like who could win where you could get to an icon being eliminated? Well, that's why you probably should not do like a regular safety chain. But what they've done with the hamster of death is it's basically a reverse safety chain where the person you're picking is being put in danger. So it's not so straightforward that you can just pick all your allies down a line and then force the other

36:55people to leave. So yeah, I mean, they said it's never been seen before. But like, I feel like this is the same as the wording with the bribe. It's like, what does that really mean? What have we really not seen before? And what are you actually forgetting that we didn't season before? To clarify, this is a show in which the host said tonight that someone's first time in a blockbuster was their second, and that a man finished in third place when he actually finished in fourth place. So I feel like the fact checking and some man text needs to be worked on. You know what? This is not the night to get on Julie, because I thought she had a pretty fun episode. She's pretty punchy. That's Julie. Julie kept asking questions that she didn't want to hear the answer to. What's your favorite color? You can only choose red or blue, actually. How mad was she that Mal rig up both of the votes right? So mad. That's her favorite game. She's your favorite question. She does love to do that. I mean, she asked the cook out why she's not

37:57in their group chat. She's literally like, that was a good question. It just really drafting off with that will chocolate drum moment. Literally. I like to do this, right? I'm OK. Literally. She was asking if she's their lemon drop. Who they had heard to a group chat? Terran, what did you think about your boy, Dan Geesling, speaking on the show for the first time in years? Oh, I mean, that was great. I mean, the whole montage was great. Watching my childhood, my life evolve over the last 26 years. But seeing Dan up there, seeing the montage of season 10, obviously, I watch it all the time, especially for the book that I wrote about it. But it was really, really cool to see him there. For him to say all the things that he always says, the greatest hits. Never give up. Control your emotions. Those things that really meant so much to me when I was watching season 10, when I was watching season 14, Dan really does, for me, at least, represents such a key element of the show.

38:58And he is the pure embodiment of it. And he just is who he is. Yeah, Big Night for Dan. Big Night for Dan. Best moment and best winner racked up a ton of the BB and Emmys. Are we surprised we didn't get more interviews? Because last night, you and me and Terran and David Bloomberg did a draft of, like, who's going to show up at this event? And we went with four pretty big names and Dan, Dr. Will, Derek Taylor. And Ron Leminsky. And of course, Michael Leminsky, who unfortunately got snubbed in the best showman's category. Some Ron, some Don. But I feel like Dan and Janelle were the only two that got, like, the sit-down interviews, which was interesting to me. They're cooking the cook out, yeah. Yeah, sorry, yes. Look, if we could be a fly on the wall, at the fly-on-the-wall meetings, oh, you forgot the Guinness Bookable Dreck or something. And the gooddest thing we've ever got about. Has another show done 999 episodes? It's like, oh, we should've done one more. Yeah. All right. Any Grace, Kirsten, Mike, and Abilance, who you want to add tonight?

40:00I'm so happy to be a big brother fan. Like, this, like, shit sucks. But it's our shit. It's our shit. And we suck it. And I'm happy to suck it all with you for 26 more years. Get Mike off the stage. I, uh, Sasha Joseph cannot be here tonight. I wanted to share one of her takes from Blue Sky. She said, big brother, 28 said, we've hated you for 1,000 episodes. And we will hate you for 1,000 more. Amen. Amen. Hate one another. It's fair. All right. Thank you so much. We'll see you later. All right. Let's bring in. We've got Scali and Jenny and Matt LaGoray. We've got it. All right. Jenny said, I'm really bad at stools. OK. I'm no pipe way. I'm no pipe way.

41:00Yes. OK. Scali, how are you doing? I'm doing pretty good. You know, they say, uh, misery loves company. And I have lots of companies tonight. So I'm doing pretty good. I'm doing good company. Yeah. I'm trying to be optimistic. I feel like a lot of us before the whole Barrett switch were like fine with Mallory getting what, you know, was basically coming. So Taylor's still here. I feel like the moves are in motion. So I'm going to try to be an optimistic. It could still happen. Yeah. I mean, it's so hard to tell because we don't know what's going to happen at the twist. But I mean, like what is the next thing that the house is talking about doing after this week, Taren? It's war. Yeah. I mean, it's war. And now it's medieval war. But it's war. It's Barrett and Melody and Yash and Taylor and Lala theoretically versus Drew and Haley and Devons and D and Angela and it's a split house. But it's more complicated than that because Lala's been working the other side. And Haley's still technically a free agent.

42:00And Drew is, I think, still going to continue to be torn. And so there's a lot of room to play there. It would have been a war for the HOH. And now it's a war for whatever this twist is. I guess what I'm wondering is the two sides that you're naming there. There's obviously people on both sides that don't really have game relationships with some of the people on the other side. But there are still people in the middle that they may be picked aside here. But they still have relationships with other people on the other side that kind of muddies the situation. And I think that allows for an interesting thing that could play out, especially with not knowing what the twist could be. I don't know. I think that that makes it a little bit interesting. It's not like five people that don't like the other five people and have no relationship with it. So it's just a matter of who gets HOH. Well, Marilyn is no fucking HOH.

43:01So the lines are blurred as well. They're very, very blurred. The other part of it, though, is that somebody's going to go home. And then when we come back on Sunday, there is going to be a new HOH as well. So this is going to be a real house. Maybe. Maybe. We don't really know for sure. But theoretically, if they're finished up with it. I thought that the twist could have just been that they were going to cancel the show out 1,000. I just had to enter right here. Well, that's been seen a lot over the world, actually. Yeah. Can I shift gears a little bit? Please. I think I'm picking up on something this season, or I don't know if this is brand new. Big brother players hate survivor players. They really do. No, I don't think that. Yeah, I don't think that's the case. But you know what? There's a lot of survivor players that talk crap about big brothers. It's an interesting. It's an interesting thing. Especially before this summer, a lot of the survivor players talk about big brother in life. And then watch big brother. And there's a lot of survivor players who love big brother and are really into it. But there are a lot of survivor players

44:02who look down at Big Brother. And someday you're going to find yourself walking up to a Scottish castle, and you really need each other. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think. And it's really some of the other survivor players that have the big problems. The big brother players are cool. They're awesome. You love them. I think for a while, there was a notion that there is a general perception that survivor takes itself a little more seriously than Big Brother. And Billy Eilish Boomerang, I don't. Yeah. I need all the survivor players to look inside their own souls after Mr. Beast appeared on the show. But I think that was the perception. And I think that there were from the player side of things, also that perception sometimes. That the players of survivor sometimes took themselves a little more seriously. Because they were on the more serious show. They were on the more cutthroat show. It's great. On Big Brother, you sit around doing nothing all the time. And now there are two survivor players on Big Brother and they're dominating. And I think the Big Brother players are feeling a little bit like,

45:05no, no, this is not real. But I also think that if you brought in a couple of like a multiple time Big Brother players into a survivor season with new players, they would dominate also. Hayden did very well. Hayden did very well. Rachel wants to play survivor. I think she would do great. Exactly. And if only Beast Mode cowboy, the spikas, you know. Yeah. I think it's just to be honest, he was doing pretty well until he got met him at. I think it's just perception. It's just like, yeah, of course, any veteran player would do well in this spot. But it's the fact that it's those players. You know what I mean? Nobody talked about Suri like this, right? Absolutely not. I mean, Suri is too beloved. One of a million. And also, by this point, Suri had been flipped on. True. All right. Scally, Jenny, Matt, anything else you want to say? It was just really cool. That whole opening montage. I didn't realize it was going to take 30 to 40 minutes. But thank God.

46:05I mean, and not just to get to watch that, like Terran has been saying and everybody's been saying, but like to get to watch it in this room was really cool. Could you rank all 60 clips that were in the blockbuster on the diary room? We're going to put them on the wheel. OK. Put them on the wheel, baby. I was so far away, I could not make one of those clips where. Did they announce the best showman's? And if they did not, I know. And I was like, why? Because they're coward. Only other vote that they did not announce. I think there was a couple other ones. Here's what I want, Corey and America. I want Corey and America to clip the Mallory diary room where she's calling Dia Cowered and then just sub-in production. Yeah, for not acknowledging the showman's victory. Because who won, Rob? Do you know? I don't. Who is there, Rob? Voted for Roman Lyric. I think we all know Corey and America. I think they won. You saw the episode. I think they, I mean, I heard they actually won. I didn't actually look at the goal. It was a strong lead. What do you know, Taren? Wasn't it a public result? Like, wasn't that the whole thing?

47:06OK, I'm not losing my mind. It was there. OK. All right. Congrats. Stally, Jenny, and Matt, thank you so much. You guys are great. OK. All right. How are you all doing? All right. All right. Let's bring in Matt, Scott, David Bloomberg, and Jacob Jones. Yes. Matt, I've never seen you in a cowboy hat before. It's truck time. It's truck time. Someone needs to check the pubes. Oh, never mind. Sorry. Never mind. Let's mix it. No. I saw Matt in that hat. I did not make the connection. I came up to, I was ready to be like, oh, look at the hat. And you just stared at me and went, it's truck time. And I turned around and I walked away. It was too funny.

48:06I couldn't do it. Half of it. I feel like I need to take it off to be myself at one point. If it goes back on. Now, they worried that Chuck's hat was too tight. Is that too tight for you? You know, I do feel like the circulation was definitely cut off. We'll just kick it away. We'll kick it away. You know what? Yeah, definitely. Oh, gosh. No, I feel like it's more like tonight. It was like it sucked time. It sucked time. Don't listen. We already had Mike Bloom up here. Yeah. Oh. I think that's over. PG 13. David Bloomberg, 1,000 episodes, and you've watched them all. Yes. And it all led up to, as Teran said, them doing the opposite of Big Brother, which as anyone who watched or listened to Y Rachel lost last year knows, I loved so much. I had so many good things to say about it. Did you like the throwbacks back to Big Brother 1? It's Big Brother 1. Is it really even the same show?

49:07It's not. But it's good that they can cut back to it just for Julie's looks. Yes. Yes. We're not going to ever show any clip from Big Brother 1. Oh, that's wild. Yeah, I do believe that Chicken George was in the audience to us. Yeah. Oh, my God. The fact of that. The fact that they acknowledged it was impressive. I really thought they would gloss over it and just pretend like it didn't happen. They love it. So I watched most of the episode tonight, and I had the pleasure of being next to Jacob Jones. And it was a treat, you know, incredible night for me. So but Jacob, you were hot by the end of the episode. I was hot and bothered. Well, Teran, say it again. You heard me. All right. No, I was hot and bothered by the episode, Rob. I was hot by the part of the reflection of Big Brother. I feel like watching the show and being so passionate about it, showing it being on this thousand, thousand episode is it made me a little emo.

50:07Yeah. It was like my first episode of Big Brother was when season 12, Brittany Haynes had a blue and white plaid dress on it. It's when she won her first H.O.H. I woke up on my grandmother's couch. And I was like, oh my god, let me zoom back. And let me watch the episode and I did. And I fell in love with it. And then Big Brother 13 and then Big Brother 14 happened. Tonight I was pissed off. Now what bothered me about tonight was, I'm not the biggest Drew fan. I came up here before and I've said it. I'm sorry to those that are, but I'm not. I was excited for the blind side. I was excited for the shock factor. I was excited for the ooze and azz that we did not get. Hopefully this twist will weigh something up. And I will still get my happy ending. Yeah, I didn't know a better way to say it. Yeah, you know what I mean? I was like, damn. But you know, I will say to your point, like I love when Big Brother makes us feel something. Yeah, but not hatred. Yeah, I'll take hatred because I just feel like we're talking about the white locus twist still.

51:08We're going to remember it. We're going to hate it. But we're still here. Where the people are going to show up no matter what, right? I will say. Don't encourage them. They showed all of the moments in the montage and the white locus clip got booed. Yeah, yeah. And then I think it went right to like, then Cody and Jess in bed and then I booed again. Yeah. I mean, the thing for me is, and I can't speak for everyone, but tonight was the perfect example of good, angry, and bad, angry. Because Mallory Leaving was upsetting in many ways, but you were like, no, why did this have to happen? I feel like a lot of this room felt. But that's part of the experience. You have to feel those lows in order to feel the highs of, oh my god, Barrett is flipping, this might happen, right? The bad angry is, oh, they're just shutting the feeds off, and there's going to be some twist and like, oh my god, OK, whatever. But I almost wish we could look back and say, oh,

52:09they're rage baiting us. They want us to be pet. They don't want this. They don't want this. They don't want to get booed by us. They think it's great. They think it was so good that they're bringing it back again and pretending it's something new. I mean, I did. I like seeing Brini Haines walk out. I did like seeing Tiffany Mitchell walk out. I like seeing, I'm not going to say I like seeing Cody walk out, but Kombu just got eliminated from the challenge, so it was very, oh, oh. Oh. Spoiler. He said Kombu. He said Kombu. Kombu. He said Kombu. He said Kombu. Oh, Kombu. He's talking about last week's episode. Challenge Lover, I am sorry. It slipped out. It slipped out. It slipped out. I think Kombu got eliminated last week. David. All right. Shout out David Bloomberg. Very few shout outs tonight. You know what? And we're OK with it, because I'm like, I don't love the family

53:10shout outs. I love the shout outs of people who are in this room. People we know from the Rob Cester, you know shout outs. Like that, you know, who cares about family? Yeah. I will say for Drew, I know he's not the most popular person here that at least he didn't do like crazy shout outs. Like your boy's going to hear whoo. At least he like, all right, he read the room a little bit for the first time. He could have pointed at the camera and gone, you can't handle the truth. Yeah. He'd be like, what's poppin' honey mood this? The Barrett bit in the diorama voting, turning into him just like being unable to do it fully. And Julie being like, I'm sorry to do this news. Yes, yes. That was good stuff. That was powerful stuff. I really like that. I actually prefer that than Barrett's like voting when he's like, oh, I'm confused. What is this room? What's going on to throw in the hair? Oh, hey, Barrett, oh, hi, Julie. I prefer that. You like more? No, I hate that. Well, I prefer, but Jake, I think I'm saying that. I think the fact that it's to speak to what we're talking about,

54:12the fact that he had done that every single time, set this moment up in a way that it wouldn't have been set up otherwise. All right. We've got one more guest to get to. Jacob David, Matt. Chuck. Chuck. Chuck. Take care. Happy trails, Chuck. That's true. All right. All right, I'd be sure to listen to why Mallory lost this weekend with David Bloomberg and Chappelle. OK. All right. And so we, listen, we need to fix the vibes. The vibes got off, Terran. They were so good this morning. They were great. You had the biggest live feed update of the season. And it was pumped up. And now the vibes are kind of down. We need to fix what's going on. And so to do so, we'll bring back a great friend of the podcast, and Etsy Witch. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

55:12Hello. Yes. Etsy Witch, do you have a name? I believe it was Morgana of the Marketplace. Morgana of the Marketplace is here, and we're ready to change the vibes. This isn't Chappelle. LAUGHTER What gave it away? LAUGHTER Oh. Listen, everyone. The Etsy Witches have been busy this week, but unfortunately, we were getting signals left and right. They were crisscrossing. We were being told, keep Taylor, keep Taylor, and we were being told, screw the vets over. Make them have drama. And then, what happened? When Drew wins the blockbuster, those two concepts kind of don't work together, so... Mmm. Oopsie. LAUGHTER It feels like Drew was able to just kind of blindly put down C and win this.

56:18That feels very anti- Etsy Witch to me. Oh. Well, you forget, little. You're right, I forgot. Drew, Drew's fans were also contacting the Etsy Witches. Oh. Yes, there was one Drew fan very loud in the back earlier. Is that why his friend said he was RIP Drew? And he was trying to bait everyone into thinking that they didn't even need to hire the Etsy Witch? That's what we call ironic. LAUGHTER Well, Etsy Witch, tonight we saw the man from the Guinness Book of World's Records come out to present Big Brother with not one but two Guinness Book of World Records. You know, I've heard someone else who might have two Guinness World Records. Yes, who is that? A good friend of mine, Frail Daddy. LAUGHTER Is he... Cron's? LAUGHTER Oh, he's normally just back there somewhere.

57:18What are his records? He juggling... You know, there wasn't a lion's called the juggler. Drew's in it. Oh. Mmm. Things are making sense now. Yes. I was going to ask, do you have any Guinness Book of World Records? Oh, the Etsy Witches. We got a couple over the past couple years for first off, Breaking Etsy, one day, the site went down from all of the Etsy Witch first. That was a record. That was a record. This... And we, you know, we really, really work tightly with Guinness, actually. Mmm. LAUGHTER Yeah. A lot of the Etsy Witches, big fans of the stout as well. Makes sense. Now, they're going back to the Year 1000. And I think that's really a time when Witchcraft was at its peak, right?

58:18They were not kind to the Etsy Witches back in Year 1000. You guys are able to keep a float, though, right? Well, see... Oh. Too soon. Too soon. OK, so I want to take from the crowd. What do we want the Etsy Witch to work on? This is what happens when we have a big twist. We don't even know what to do. We don't even know what you want. OK. How about... Could we manifest the live feed leak? Ooh. Just a skippy fall asleep. It turns the feeds back on. I will definitely get working on that. And you know one more thing about the Etsy Witch, which is funny. Sometimes we channel people who are dead. Sometimes we channel people who are alive. And if you saw him the earlier and thought, who was that supposed to be? The Etsy Witch? Well...

59:19Oh. Wait, hold on. I am Vegas. Yes. Oh! She's alive. She's alive. Floaters? Rival like this. Kristen. Oh! It works on so many levels. I'm back. I'm back. Rachel Riley can come to the side. Yes. All right. Well, Etsy Witch, thank you for changing the vibes around here. Appreciate it. Incredible. Reminds me a lot of frail Mary. Yeah, there's something really weird about she had a name tag that said Mary. I think somebody check on Mary because I haven't seen her in a while. Somebody stole her name tag. All right. So, all right. We're going to wrap up here for night two of our hap-con. We still have a big day three coming up here for everybody who's in the room. Friday morning. There will be an exit interview with Mallory and Taran. You're going to be solo on that one.

1:00:20I'm playing in a survivor LRG at Rahapcon. How do you think he'll do? I don't know. I mean, you're kind of going to be the icon. I kind of feel like the vibes are kind of bad against the vets. I don't like that. But, yeah, give my best to the pipe queen. I will. We'll have a good time. We'll talk about pipes. We'll talk about queens. Yeah. Then, after that, it will be New N Eastern for you at home. 11th Central for everybody here. Taran and Puyah will be live to talk about the live feeds from today. Yes, and it turns out we have live feeds right now. So, there will actually be some fallout from this eviction to talk about. So, that'll be very exciting. Okay. Then, Puyah, stuff to come, including a very big Sunday night, big brother episode, which we will have a recap for you as well. So, be on the lookout for that. Alright, Taran, what else?

1:01:21You know what? Find my Patreon. I was streaming during this whole thing, if you want to see what it's like to be at a live show, while staring at my face. Check that out. Check it out. It's a good time. And then, also on Chappie CC, check out the $10,000 game that's playing out on Friday and night. Go to BB28.chat for that. And this is, it feels like the right room to say this. Are you all interested in knowing where we're going to go for Survivor 51 this fall? Alright. I have two dates and locations for you. Alright, you heard it here first, okay? On October 14th, we will be in Washington, D.C. Okay. The crowd is like, okay? And then, on December 9th, I will be in my home state in Charlotte, North Carolina.

1:02:23Alright, a bigger response. I'm excited. I'm driving to that one. Alright. Alright, thank you all so much. Everybody here was amazing to be here with you tonight and everybody at home. Thanks for joining us. We will see you tomorrow. Take care. Have a good one. Bye.