Summer of Stein Big Brother 28 Week 9

0:00The Sun Trick-powered Time to do music. Hear, it's time to break it is time locked-up Watching the show for a little while But when he names his first flute Your house guess how to watchHead The Sun knows when your games get himself His eyes dat that dancing knows what its say Thedat at the gate It's the summer of Stein. It's the summer of Stein. It's the summer of Stein. Yes, that's right. It's the summer of Stein. And I'm here live with, of course, America's player, the beloved Eric Stein. Eric, how are you? Maybe frozen. I'm back. He's back, baby. I wanted to start it up with my signature move. I actually was going to dance along with some oven mitts for the opening.

1:04Do a little intro fun, but I was too lazy to walk to the kitchen, so I decided to freeze my internet instead. Yes, okay, perfect. Yeah, I love it that back in, you know, the youthful early days of summer of Stein. There would be like big, like pre-planed established bits. And now I feel like that it's so fitting. And it makes me crack up that then we just sit there during the song. My kitchen is about three steps from here. Yeah. And that was a bridge too far for me to cross. I do have a classic Eric Stein story to start off the podcast today. So I went to the beach on Labor Day. And you went back to the beach after the parking ticket. And the very same spot. Okay. Okay, yes. And once again, we have, you know, going to the beach with little kids, I don't know if you know this. It's not the best. They're eating sand.

2:04It's like it's a series of Jews. I am like carrying 5,000 things. My back is killing me. You're parking so far away in the, you know, like the warehouse, you know, of a few times. And maybe right now, nowhere near the beach. I was exhausted. I was, I was over it. I go to bend down to pick up the last of 5,000 things. And I split my bathing suit entirely down the seam of my ass crap. Okay. Now a bathing suit traditionally, you do not wear an undergarment underneath a bathing suit. There's a mesh. There's a mesh in there. Not in this case. What happened? Did you bring a spare bathing suit to the beach? Well, I know I had to create a towel-sarrang to wear back while carrying without exaggeration,

3:10but I know less than 8 bags at totally at least 120 pounds that I carried for two miles. Right. It might, my ass flapping in the breeze with my sharrang as it were. I bet it was very cool though. It was actually quite breezy. Yes. I think so. Well, could you go in the water then? At that point, it was time to go. My wife, Leena, said, said, should we take a picture of this? Or just to commemorate it? Said, let's just get to the car. Right. Right. And really the bathing suit, I didn't even really think about this, but is also doing a lot of functioning and addition to being clothing. It's also keeping the sand out of places. And now that's no longer keeping that function. Thankfully, we were truly on the way out. Yeah, I could not have gone back into the sand.

4:10That would have been a shower to forget. It happened on the way out as opposed to on the way in. If it was on the way in, I would have been arrested. It was nothing. It was. Yeah. Give me this time for public decency. Like sir, we just had a run in with you just a couple of weeks back. Okay. All right. So Eric Stein is here and it is once again another big Thursday here. What a way to kick off our Big Brother eviction Thursdays then with summer of Stein. I am genuinely loving what is going on in the Big Brother House. And I don't understand what everybody else is so riled up about. It's fantastic. We have people playing. We have people giving it in the diary room. We have people who want to be there fighting for their lives. I am sorry. You know, I took a few years off of the podcast. But if I was here at the end of Big Brother 26 while chemo and rubina are singing songs on their way to the final four, I would have lost my mind.

5:14At this point in BB 25, Jag and Matt were in running competitions against Felicia and Suri and America. We have a real game happening right now of people who want to be there who are upset. Who are upset when their game is on the line, who make big moves and regret those moves. But they still commit to doing those moves. This is a good time in Big Brother. There are people who actually are trying and care. Yes, some fans like one group of people, some fans like another group of people that doesn't make it bad. It doesn't mean we need to shout at each other. Good time on Big Brother. I think that this is good. It's pretty wide open. I think of it maybe, I don't know necessarily what the overlap is in terms of the Big Brother fanbase and sports fans. I think that there is some overlap in the Venn diagram. But it's almost like that this is the playoffs where everybody, there are people that have their fan bases.

6:15And they hate the other teams that are in the playoffs. It's completely right. And that's part of the fun of rooting is having the people that you don't want to win and seeing their come up. And the ebb and flow of it going back and forth. That's what makes it a good game. When it was all one sided, everyone hated that. Now that they're going back and forth, everyone hates that. This is like we don't need to be miserable about this. It's a TV show we love. And we should be open to discussion about both sides of things and seeing points of views that's not ours. I've noticed in the discourse, if you say anything that is not to the group think or even that individual person's perspective, they will jump down your throat. And it's like I'm saying it on ramble, it is literally a group chat. We are chatting. If I said the same thing, the last 10 people said there would be nothing to chat about. So you should be happy that I have my own thoughts, my own opinions, you know, that we should hear other perspectives. What was the thought you had this week that it was not consistent with the group think?

7:20Oh, well, thank you for asking because I get to be smug about this one about three days ago. It came up with a thought. I said, you know, they're working hard. They're creative. They have good ideas. I bet you there's a way that D and devins might both end up staying in this house. And I laid out some of the reasons why I thought that that might be possible. My comments are flooded with brec. You're a moron. We don't want it. Not going to have to make it out. You're just making stuff up to try and make it out like it's a bad move. Well, when you know it fast forward 36 hours later and what's potentially happening, I don't understand the unwillingness to entertain or even want to have things happening in the house. The worst part of Big Brother is that when things get locked in because of the competition win or on Monday after the veto ceremony, there is no game. Everyone should be absolutely thrilled.

8:20But I understand they're not and I'm not trying to control your emotions until you must be thrilled. But you should be thrilled that people are actually playing and trying to stay and entertaining different ways of looking at the game. Otherwise, it would be boring. Well, let's talk about where we are at this hour. And so let's pick things up where we left off last week. We said it was do or die for devins and he did it. It is the more things change, the more they stay the same. As once again, we head into a Thursday night. You felt like that Rick Devins could not be beat in the blockbuster last week. So Rick is a similar prospect tonight where barring a late change if he does not win the blockbuster, he will be going home tonight. So this is a dream house with law. Yes, yes. That'll be lovely. Yeah. So Rick is really good at these types of games.

9:20He's really good with his back against the wall. I don't know if tonight is a sure fire in the same way. So it turns out last week wasn't sure fire in that way. It was about a millisecond away from it not being so sure fire. But here he is. And I really liked Lala as a character. I liked what I like having different people of different gameplay styles on the show. I thought she's a lot of fun. I cannot wait to get a drink with this woman in New York. But she'll be fun at all these meetups. She's going to be amazing. She was I love what she brought to the house. Not everyone needs to be a hardcore strategist to be a good time in the house. She was competitive. She had fun ideas. She had a fighting spirit. And I know everyone thought that the outcome we needed was devins going home. But I do not think that that is the case from my perspective. From my perspective, him staying there opens up the game. It keeps things a lot more fluid. It leads to a much bigger week this week. Lala was still there. This week would have been an absolute time.

10:21By the way, can't wait. Big Brother 29 Lala is going to be racking up the emojis left and right on ramble. That she is going to be on fire. People give her the tongue emoji. Like, yeah, she's going to be just like destroying you on ramble. Yeah. Me personally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, your idea of mine. Yeah, that's best take Eric. YOU DO NOT HAVE THE EXPECTATION OF D DOING this. And this in no one in the right mind would do this. But knowing what we know on the downside, interesting if D took her foot off the gas a little bit and were to allow devins to win this blockbuster knowing that he has the votes today. Of course, it's not happening. Yeah, and I it would be moronic to do Yes, but in the totality of what it would do for their game the net impact it would have would be fantastic for her game

11:30She's too locked in she's in like black momble mode right now I think that they are making such a foolish mistake to be contemplating even keeping D at this point where I just think that she has The eye of the tiger whenever cliche you want to use right now where I think that she Cannot be denied right now like I'm starting to see it and It's hard to Unsee it when that you know you have somebody of this caliber really just in the zone I think that she's locked in So there I think there's a little bit of I think it was winners at war Tony where it was about like I can't remember the language He was using but basically like the good people and the not good people. Yeah, like the threats in the line Yes, thank you And so what's interesting is everyone thinks that they are the lion and so therefore they want to keep around the other Lions and take out the hyenas and I knew that that was the way to approach

12:34Yash with this what's confusing to me is that you know Drew and Melody would even be entertaining this at all or or because That does not add up for me from Yash's perspective. I think keeping them in the game does make sense Otherwise, he's going to go home next and is going to be an FAP final three absolutely and if They're in the game and it's it's if you can't beat us join us Situation and it works both ways it's that if you can't get any of them out Well, then two of them will be in the final two and one of them is going to win the game So it's the way if if they save D or were the save D and devins and then you have Taylor you have gosh Barrett can't compete It's everybody against Melody with Drew sort of not wanting to do anything wishy-washy not the target in the middle and I I think that that there is something to gain for Yash and Toshler in that situation because the person sitting next to an icon at the end might have the votes to win potentially or win the final three HWH you might have the ability to do something

13:37I understand they can get rid of them now, but then He's next in line and right now the bribe does not align with his alliances You know, and it's like where you are in the game Obviously, I know this as America's player. It needs to align You like your objectives what you're able and allowed to do must align with who you're working with because he can say I'm working with the other side I'm working with the other side, but then he has to target the other side It's useless if he works with D and devins then he can just win HOH take out Barrett or Drew out of the game I'm interested to know your position on the BB bribe because I said last night on the podcast I think it's been additive to the season. I love the storyline of that Yash has his hands tied behind his back He has one thing he wants to do, but he's made this deal But the ironic part of it is that the deal is also what's keeping him safe because the fact that he can't put these people on the block Makes them keep him around longer and maybe eventually to their own detriment where they keep him around too long

14:38Because it's like okay, well, we're scamming this guy so good. We got to keep him around because the deal is too good And so I think it's a really interesting. Is it the most fair thing in the world like absolutely not But I think it's really really interesting coming from your background as America's player How do you think that the BB bribe is adding or detracting to and from the season? I have a lot of thoughts about this But even more so than America's player on my season season eight of the brother Jamaica gave up five HOHs as part of a veto competition And everyone was like this is pathetic. She can't compete This is useless from our perspective inside of the house that made her the person to save She had literally no power whatsoever. She could not even play in them. So the fact that she gave them up gave her five more weeks of playing because She was she was just sitting there. There was nothing there was nothing she could do to us in the game No matter what we did to her and I think the bribe has been extremely additive But definitely no thanks to production. This is all thanks to D

15:40You know D came up with the perfect Persine to do it to the perfect scenario could not have come up with a more impactful suggestion It is the the only drawback is I think it's confusing for the viewers It seems to also be upsetting to viewers who don't like it is happening But I think it's great. I think seeing him try to play around it and play with it And it's a pro and a con like you're saying I think it's actually been one of the more shockingly nuanced strategic elements of the show in a really long time But again That is not what they planned for it or anticipated for that's just what it unwittingly became But it I think it is great entertainment and you know if If I were him also though it's people are acting like yosh can just win hoh at will every single week Like it's within his like set of outcomes like I'll just win whenever I want to that may or may not be true And if I were him I would be trying to win every single one of them to either clear the deck and move on with it

16:40Or you know it might not be that easy to just turn it on and win it you know when you want to yeah It'll be interesting to see if he does go for hoh tonight as we have a new hoh crowns But the man who may find out big move barrett he got the hoh he put three icons up on the block here he is It's funny. There's a wwe guy bad news barrett and he'd come out and say oh boy do I have some bad news for you Yeah, well barrett yes, I do have some bad news for you So last week when we were discussing this I I was highly against even the idea of him flipping his vote as Not as a TV move not as a we stand you move as a I want to win this game move and I Did not know he would win hoh yet and this is a fascinating situation. He finds himself in I believe as hoh

17:42He had no choice but to do this yes if you do not get them out of the game the game is over However, he should not have won hoh and when he did win hoh and do this every single thing that I said was going to happen last week Happened to this man. He is completely on the outs. He has become a shell of himself He is literally hiding like Ronnie the rat on big brother 11 in in fear in his hoh room And and I To what he said I'm gonna take him from six foot five and I'm gonna you ever put salt on a slug And I'm gonna shrink him down to nothing. Where is she coming up with this up? It's great It is so great. It's a whole other side of D that we did not get to see in the edit on to ever cycle path side Yes, and a fantastic one at that. That's what we want in our TV characters You know People should always you wrong me. I wrong you. That's why it was so pathetic that Drew was putting up devins instead of D D. I just put him up and tried to get him out the week earlier So she should have gone up in that scenario. So, you know, it's so interesting because

18:46I do not fault barrett for what he's doing his perspective on the game is correct Also, he seems to forget the fact that he's the person who put himself into this situation He was the person who got out all of the other newbies when he could have saved them He was running back their information to enable the icons to be in an unbeatable position And and so then the timing becomes almost impossible So good on him for making the move but this is becoming a a Jessica Milagro style HOH where He's gonna win the battle, but he's not looking so good in the war now You know big Jeff used to ask a question to the house guests who entered the game Like would you rather win and be hated or lose and be loved and I think that that was the decision that Barrett faced heading into this week He was heading into a situation which he probably had more of a chance to win the game To go into the end with the crossovers to be in the final three with with Drew and devins and um

19:51himself and Ultimately like eke out a win over Drew Maybe it's a bitter jury that ultimately where he maybe beats Angela in a final two and People say one of the worst winners. We've ever seen on big brother and That could have been a scenario for him But I think that ultimately he is keenly aware that this is a season that's probably dominant He even seem to be able to triangulate. Oh, I probably never got a power because I was helping the vets That he knows the fan base. He knows the people that are watching the live feed 24 hours a day He knows that this is what they wanted to see and I think he feels like hey, I will be Beloved by the people who will always remember I prevented the vets from winning now that that's still my win the game But I think that he that that's what he was going for That he I think he wanted to be stand more than he wanted to win But then what happened afterwards why is he now you know sitting in his in his room?

20:54Heartless. Why is he hanging out? Why is he like and and he's he's kind of becoming like a confessional gangster which I do not Love like I did like how he handled the conversations with the icons. I liked how he was mad or a fact I like how he explains his reasoning I don't think that He's wrong, but this is a new Fascinating part of of big brother. It's the meta game where the fans and social media and your awareness of it are are almost a part of what people are doing I mean think of Eva last year who's literally clip farming around the house trying to go around and like set up Performative moments where one minute she's sitting completely calm using her regular voice and then the next minute She's like thrusting into trying to make herself a meme and you know you have other people who are playing for the fandom and here He is I think you have completely cracked the code on this and He for me. I want the $750,000. Maybe he thought that that wasn't a path that existed for him

21:59But I would I guess I'd rather win and be hated um I think he didn't consider one scenario and I know he has a lot of really big fans out there So I hope he loses and is loved But there also is the scenario of um, you know, win and be loved But there also is the scenario of of lose and behavior is also a thing also so like you know Yeah, I don't think that's where he's headed But I don't I do think that you can't Play for the outcome on the outside you just need to do what you need to do It's not a path to victory to do it that way. I do think that people will especially that We wanted to see the icons on the block. I think he knew somewhere he could imagine Mallory Uh jumping up and down and making like a really snarky tweet about the three icons on the block like that was in his mind I do think that the issue here now is that it was one thing when he came into power And he was riding the high of making that move and I think that then the lame duck status of being the outgoing HOH

23:04To think of like okay, well this week didn't actually go the way that I thought and now I can't play HOH And now the people that are the icons that are staying in the game have vowed that they are going to destroy me after this Uh, let's let's uh skip ahead to uh Barrett then was on the receiving end and I've never seen this before at a veto meeting where somebody on the block got in the face of the outgoing HOH and Vowed that they let me see if I have the line of that uh d said last night Um, I was retelling this to my wife this morning. Uh, she she was a delighted Uh, I'm foaming at the mouth to take you out of this game. You're going to regret this decision for the rest of your life I Love it and I do not give one lying you know what that other people do not like it I don't care who thinks is cringe. I don't care how people would have reacted if x y and z

24:05Other person did it because that's not what happened Did it to Barrett and it was hilarious The the best players on big brother Treat their life in the game like their actual life is on the line if you told a Derek or an Andy Hey, you're gonna go sit on the block. They would say over my dead body, you know, you're gonna to get me out of here You're gonna have to literally kill me put me in a body back and ship me out So the fact that that d understands HOH and that his his job is done There's nothing more that he can do here and now Put a target on him put him on the defensive make him flustered. Yeah. Why should she allow him to settle in and make moves against her It's not this is not a game of like oh Yeah, okay, I'm gonna give you the time to go make plans against me That's ridiculous the entire purpose of the game is to make people look bad Lie about them make you the one who's more believable in that moment you when people are on the rocks

25:08You don't pile on them and she Realizes now that she is likely to stay or otherwise devins was going to stay and she is putting a target on him Why should she keep the target on herself that makes no sense and it's also hilarious Is it is it performative are they saving it for the ceremonies? Yeah, they are because they're making a TV show That's that's literally what we're doing here. We're not playing this in someone's garage And this is also like big brother 101 of that if people know who your target is that's like well I want to keep them around because they're not coming after me I mean, I think back to our from great friends of the podcast Jordan par har when godfrey went So hard after and I forget the guy who was his friend with the HLH Good move and I think that I can compare and contrast the D approach to the Rick deffins approach where D says

26:09You're gonna regret this decision for the rest of your life and I love like I want you to wake up every single day and have nightmares About this and is she just is like on such a different level than Rick deffins who's like Barrett I'm gonna. I'm a heat seeking missile that's coming for you. Well, look You're still world will be friends after the show don't worry about it, but You are my target now and he's like I want every single waking moment the rest of your life that you will regret Ever coming near me like I think that they are both Fantastic and I think that first of all to your first point. It's working That's why yosh is entertaining keeping them because Barrett is their target and he knows that now So wait a minute if they're targeting him and he's targeting them and no one's targeting me That sounds like a pretty good setup for me She de is hitting Barrett where she knows it hurts him and that is why it's being effective to him because to your point

27:09He went He came into the house To help them because he loved them and because he wants to be loved So he could not hear anything more hurtful than the person that he worships saying you're going to regret this because deep down He knows enough about the show. He's talked about the show enough to know that it's true Because he's probably seen me say I've woken up every single night for 19 years in a cold sweat because I regret the things that happened to me on the show He knows that what she's saying is true, but Devons don't discredit this This is absolutely hilarious to say like, you know, I love this man He's fantastic, but I do have one objective in here and it's to ruin the game of someone and he's very tall He's saying that's like a clue. It's hilarious. I like the reaction to Being in danger people are saying like oh, they're acting like they're entitled like oh, what did they want you to do? Wait until the final four. Yeah, they wanted you the wait until the final four

28:10The other players didn't want the fans didn't want them, but why should the icons want to be put on the block? Yeah, I should anyone want you your question should be with the six people who went before them who did nothing when they were on the block Right not the people who are actually trying to stay there and you know who was really mature about being put on the block Kamu and that sucked it was like we wanted him to crash out we wanted to see him go crazy and look at him now They didn't even have a comic book for him. He had to be an artist I was like so I like give us give us reactions give us emotions. Who cares if they're being immature Yeah, that's the point of the show like what do we think we're watching that's literally the and I actually think the fact that they went on the attack Rather than then shrinking down and and sort of turn the tables the people who are in charge were theoretically having the good week Are the people who are on their heels that's perfect momentum going into the next week of play That's the difference between survivor and big brothers you're only getting

29:10One of them and then you can't get the power again and they can you know So you have to live with the consequences of your actions I do believe that he was between a rock and a hard place Of course he put the rock and the hard place there in the first place So it's hard for me to feel sympathy about this and I Think this is so preferable right to sitting there and being like good game Barry You did great one of us will win the blockbuster and we'll see you next week and congratulations on your win No, they're still going to be there. They're still trying to win You know, I really don't understand the fan perspective on this You Eric let's talk about Angela this could be the end of the line barring if If Rick Devons let me make sure I'm saying this correctly. I if Rick Devons wins the blockbuster. This could be tonight the end of Angela I Feel that the Angela experience was just okay for me this time around

30:15I Would love to watch Angela play any online game if I was casting a TV show I would put Angela there, but ultimately it's kind of Different day same song for me. We're getting a lot of the same. I'm gonna yell at people You know, I'm gonna get loud I'm gonna be paranoid they're feeding her the albeit funny chuck bits in the diary You know, it's I I like that Angela is undeniably herself For the rest of this season and the game of this season people seem to forget Angela was not a good player on big brother 26 and she's been an okay player. Yeah, big brother 28 She has definitely learned but The idea that people might She might become the permapond and people are gonna keep going home against her the fact that she might win a Stravo in the end accidentally in a certain configuration of the jury

31:21I've have seen enough of Angela for this season she brought some entertainment. She did not bring endless entertainment I think it was good not great for me. It did not rise to the next level for me. Yeah, I think in terms of the TV moving forward the show moving forward The fun feeds moving forward. I do think that Angela going home would be the most acceptable outcome And I've been rooting for Angela this season. I think that Angela ultimately winning the season I think that would be a very fun outcome for the season to see her come back and win after being a person who comes in on the on their first season and then winning in maybe a weird way like a Rachel Riley like a Nicole Franzo on their second time out I think that that would be very fitting in the lore of big brother to have Angela come in and win the season It would be an icon, but it wouldn't be the survivors who come back and win. So I think that I

32:21I think that that's a fun ending to the season but I also am struggling to see exactly how it happens Her winning the blockbuster over Kamu and Haley was one of the best moments of the season I think that she would be hard pressed to do it again tonight against D and Devons It would be a wild finish, but I think Angela can go. I think Angela um has Has brought to the season, but I think that D and Devons have more to give moving forward I agree and it's because so much of the end game of big brother is competition heavy and that sucks We didn't make that the case, you know And so therefore for the game to be as exciting and have as many open-ended outcomes as possible The people who might win competitions being there and the people who are always going to do that one extra move I mean look at the fact that she finds herself sitting potentially on the outside of this vote Which is unfathomable from inside of the house in her position And that's because they went the extra mile I mean what I would have loved to see from her and I see some of it

33:23And I know it's a big brother show so this is a survivor reference, but you'd love to see like a Kathy Vavric O'Brien arc where she's really struggled at first on big brother 26 But then she figures it out and she came back this time and is like the strategist and she's savvy and she's making moves But I kind of feel like I just got More of the same, but there is a little bit of element and I know she is genuinely herself So it's not that I'm saying that But it's a little caricature of her own self type of situation where it's like I feel like It's like a sequel you're watching you know Angela 2 and it's like I think there was a pretty similar scene in Angela 1 And everyone loved that scene so I'm going to recreate that scene just a little different in Angela 2 But it doesn't hit quite the same way for me I I've never had the pleasure of meeting Angela I would love to throw her chaos into the mix of anything. I'm producing. I'd love to grab a drink with her I'd love to hear her stories and her perspective on the show. I just think she has given what she has to give

34:29I said this last night on the podcast. I think that her big brother 28 game is actually Demonstrably better than her big brother 26 game She ironically may not do as well coming in. I think she was six place in big brother 26 But I do think you know She she well came back they built her as an icon. I think that she is Big brother royalty. I think after this time out being the returning player They built like she's the one big brother returning did you quibble? I think that She will be taking a residence in a certain castle that that you occupied sometime soon You know she should be great there should be great to sit around and be paranoid and eavesdrop and Argy on a table. Yes, and be be loud and wrong. I mean that's that's where Angela is headed. She's great. She's gonna be awesome. Okay. All right All right, we got some drulity Heating up. It's been kind of a wild week. We had over the past weekend the

35:36I'd Menaja toa I believe it's called Between Drew and Barrett and Melody which seem to maybe only then Peak Drew's interest more to the point where then there was a labor day Suarez where then they got very close Angela has been calling them out. There's been some People are on foot patrol people are on hot tub patrol What's going on here with drulity? um This is so relatable to me not just from my own experiences, but as a viewer um They like each other obviously It is so clear that Melody came in and finally someone sticking to their guns on this and said I am not going to get to a showman's in a game for $750,000. I am not going to make that my storyline. I am not going to get nominated because of it That will not be my arc. I can see that she her and her mom they got together

36:41They they said you're not going to do that girl. She ob she has Whatever her situation is at home that obviously I know nothing about It's a confusing complicated situation when you're inside of the house you're spending 24 hours together This is the equivalent of like the first three years of dating someone It is is date after date after date convers deep conversation You have to rely on the people you get betrayed by people it is a huge roller coaster and the feelings are hugely personified She's not convincing me uh He's not even he's he's sadly trying to go along with her her claims that they're not interested in each other His side is beyond transparent. We we don't think we need to you know a suit saer to figure that one out and As far as she goes, I just think she does not want that to be the end of her game The story of her game the story of her time there so she is fighting it tooth and nail but Ultimately, it's you You can't you can't fight love, you know

37:43It's that I do I think that this is a long time couple that is going to end up getting married Absolutely not yeah, do I think that there will be Some form of exploration of their feelings after the season. I hope so for them You know, I would be lovely would be taking away three more weeks. That's fine. It's I think interesting to me with melody who has had zero power at any point in the game No hoh wins no veto win It does seem like that there is like this one lever of control that she does have in the game And it's not even that she does not seem to actually be able to get him to do any particular thing um But it does feel like okay that there's there's like some level of control here that I can apply and pressure to this man He seems unwilling to put her on the block or put her up as replacement numb. I guess that's something But it's really all that she has and I think that she is very reticent to let that control go

38:46But it's an interesting game Condition in situation because I think her only path to winning is going to the end with Drew and beating him And and that is a it's a tough one anyway because as disliked as he is I think he was still active in the game and he was in majority alliances in the game and presumably If they are sitting there he has won a lot at the end to get them there. Yes, but she's doesn't want to be on the block Next to him as a result of their relationship and go home because he has deeper relationships So it's like she's she needs him But she also doesn't want that so it's it's a really sticky situation And also he may well also believe that his only chance to win is also next to melody and we could see them really Lock in in this sort of weird sort of like will they won't they and I do think that there's a world where she can beat him in the end I think it's possible it seems like he's extremely disliked Inside of the house and outside of the house. It's he's a tough

39:46Character if you're looking at it just from the point of the TV edit because his TV edit it It's confusing what his character is and it seems to be not in alignment with his actual actions Inside of the house or how people are really feeling by him. It's like they just like make him like exciting guy You know like he does he says and does stuff But I'm not even sure what he does like I don't think they ever quite landed on Drew's character and I just think I think she doesn't want to go down with the ship But also it's like what if his ship isn't sinking so she's just kind of like half one foot in One foot out literally yeah I also I have to I have to retract my remarks from three minutes ago about Angela because her bizarre Needling of them and obsession and calling this out really was amazing and nobody else in their right mind would have ever done that So so inappropriate and bizarre yeah and just like none of her business at all and the fact that it wasn't just a passing remark But that she kept going and going you know

40:49That's what we have time to work that into the episode here on Thursday night of like the barit Droom melody situation Angela with them so This they could use an unlock this week to get this all in I don't think it's gonna happen In the barit even although what what is he doing? It like it's very clear to him that he knows That that his own best friend inside of the house is manly in love with this woman So why is he trying to attack? Why do you tell Drew that he was gonna look at the video and then not pick him like it seems like that Why did he tell him he was gonna vote him out two weeks? I don't know. He seems to want of Dunk on true Okay, we saw last night that Drew's hairbrush has been missing for some time It was Taylor who was hiding the hairbrush What a shocker I would have never imagined that would be the outcome I have never seen these Diary room bags before in my entire life it appears to be their toiletries But doesn't that say Drew's name on it? So how could his his brush be hiding in his own bag of toiletries?

41:55Maybe he's not looking for it in there But doesn't he need the other items in it like didn't he go and get his his medicine or his shampoo What else is in this I don't know what it is I guess I'm in the last four weeks I guess it's like you you keep stuff in the diary room I guess you see you were on big brother in the age of standard definition Nobody really could see like if somebody wasn't so fresh But maybe in this HD era that they have to keep a bunch of stuff to do touch-ups in the diary room Well, they they used to be very um, and I think still are finicky about like giving you your personal products and your You know medications and stuff, but this is definitely After a number of people were trying to bring narcotics into the house Yeah, that's that's fair. I also uh, I you play hit a free Adam Jizinski world I told this story earlier in pre Jackson also known as Mickey world When exactly well, you know, right they do have a point during the hide and go veto on my season

42:57Someone took my thyroid prescription and just chucked it across the room And I was like literally like picking up each one and I was like I need these to live guys and they're like Screw you. It's the veto competition. I think that may have also contributed to locking them up in the future Okay, but I don't know what this bag is Um, it doesn't seem like a good hiding spot But she sold me with it. It's hiding in you know in plain sight and I was like okay And then like five minutes later as like, but what if you need some tissues, you know, isn't he gonna find it? Maybe he'll find it. Maybe I'll just think he's losing his mind like oh, I lost it my it was my oh yeah I put it there like right did I do that? Yeah, okay, good moment for Taylor all right, and then yash That he's really emerged. He was a guy. He should have gone home the first week It's such a great big brother story that the person who was about to go home week one then rebounds and he is on this Ride that could take him all the way to finale night. He talked about barrett He's always glazing the icons and he said that if you are glazing

44:01You will never be glazed Eric true or false Well, I followed the man's instructions. I wrote that shit down Just like he told me to do and that is now my new life motto uh Yeah, I think it's true. I do think it's true uh, you know, I'm old. I am not really you know hip to the lingo So this speaks so up until probably about two weeks ago Uh, I did know what glazing meant, but I thought it meant that for a different reason I thought there was a How do I say this tactfully? something uh else that was Being implied that it was slick that was doing the glazing element That To when you glaze someone I thought there was an additional connotation to it that apparently there's not uh, which is good Because I don't want to be misusing words um I I like I like what yosh is doing in the diary room a lot. He is the perfect big brother energy

45:03This reminds me a lot of Paul's first run when he was happy and not running a cult And he was figuring out the game we bring yosh back next season Yes, and yes, and then everybody does very hateful horrible things and he follows his reign and yeah It could turn dark if if we see him again But the people figuring out on the fly and learning the game and having fun with it But his his energy is is right. It's interesting earlier in the season We were getting like you know Kamu as the leader of the opposition and he had this very like level and dry personality this sort of like energy like I'm hyped It's so big brother. I honestly I think he feels like one of the most big brother Characters to big brother in a really long time um it it's it's like uh Tucker-esque, but if he was actually making sound decisions sometimes or playing well occasionally So uh yeah, I think he has established himself as a surefire returner. I like it. It's funny. It's young. It's energized

46:05I like that. He's not stupid and he's Speaking up for himself. I It's it's all all thumbs up in my book, but what is of course so weird is that we also know like he has some like very poor takes you know inside of the house so like it's It's it's become harder and harder to watch anything And separate like We can hold two things in our hands at once of that maybe that he is somebody who has been very fun on the TV show But also somebody not worthy of glazing and so that we can say you know both these things He's fun to watch and also you don't want him to necessarily You know uh I endorse everything that yasha is saying Yeah, and I especially don't want to glaze him in the way that I thought it may Yes, that's for sure. Okay, uh Thundercat says uh right uh yasha does a fair amount of glazing of brands Can he glaze a pair of scissors asking for the public? Yeah, is this glazing Eric?

47:07I vote to evict melody Thank you shout out Chipotle Chipotle is my life That is is he glazing Chipotle? I think it's uh the less subtle version of the uh Laze moment for Taylor right? I think it's definitely glazing But maybe his land should be crispy cream a nice glazed yes, you know, it's every that is more in alignment Someone has to get this guy on track. You don't you don't glaze a burrito Okay, all right then um all right uh Eric uh give us your favorite J more moment of all time When the show ended What a topical and timely guest He Yes, uh, did you like uh with goat boy? Oh no, that was that Jim Brewer I that's a good question. Yeah, I've been saying it on the vine nobody has fact check me That's how all the uh the things that I'm referencing are I I don't think anybody is fact check me I think it was actually Jim Brewer was goat boy

48:08Yeah, I mean uh, I guess I guess J. Brewer was an SNL arm, right? He was He was for and and and I guess uh I guess Jerry McGuire He was in Jerry McGuire. I'm trying to think of he had if he had one SNL character That was uh was a recurring character. I was gonna say Joe Pesci But I think that I think that basically attributing all of Jim Brewer's work on SNL to uh J more I think uh yeah, I think I think less is more in this case I do not I do not think that this is hitting the target uh De- maybe the CBS demo definitely not our online demo, you know, uh, our people um I don't I don't know what we gain from hearing J. More's thoughts on the show I mean it's like it's almost like they're just scratching their own backs and like self-congratulatory being like look A sort of one-time celebrity uh watches our shows like Okay, like I just I did not think this was additive. Uh, I found unlock to be endlessly entertaining this week

49:13Zingbot was absolutely vicious I mean really just yeah career do say was that was rough That was rough uh the the truisms about Taylor and uh Derek's hosting and They into the panel was really hurtful and it was showing a level of self-awareness um from the producers But it was like um There may have been one too many comments about how the show doesn't need to exist or that uh, you know No one likes it the fact that it's united The the feedster is and the you know regular Watchers the casuals as well But it was cracking me up. It's it seemed like they just they decided to lean into the fact that nobody likes it Which made it which made it even better and actually it's ironic because the more that they acknowledge that the better the show has become Yeah, if you're glazing you'll never be glazed. I think they understand that keenly on big brother unlocked um Okay, uh before are we get to listener questions go ahead and send them in uh, but first

50:17Let's talk about last night. We got BB comics you ready to go through the BB comics I am ready to go through the BB comics, but since we did a sneak peek of the listener questions slide I really heads are gonna roll I'm gonna make Brand-in and Sam regret this for the rest of their lives for taking these photos of me. What is this from my my space? I look like I'm 14 here Where is the underage photos of Eric's sign these coming from guys Look how skinny I am. I look like I'm withering away What I you know you have my phone number send it text. I can shoot you one from last Thursday What is going on here? What is going on here? Back to the comics all right back to the comics. Okay. Uh, should we have some sort of like a ufometer on the uh big BB comics I think that's good This is low hanging fruit, you know, it's tough because you know she is cracked So yeah, it makes sense for her, but it's like it's never good when you have to be

51:22Your punishment costume in your comic because that stands to say you did nothing on your own volition in the entire season Angela for Mary here. We're gonna like relying on the egg costume Yeah, but then what else would it be? What else is she talking? I mean, I don't know what her BB-26 comic was. I wonder if it was something with shark hootery um, so Yeah, I guess don't love it. Yeah, although a huge shiner. Yeah, there's there's been worse I'm coming middle of the road on this. Okay. All right. Here we go. This is probably the most interesting one to talk about the Austin gang Ler he's lanky cranky and it'll give you a spanky It's a lot going on here. You know what? It's so it's so bizarre. I actually I love it. I stand the Austin gang. Like I I liked how he seemed To also pick up on the fact that like Why is everyone else here on their group? He seems panicked that he's now some sort of like a villain. It seems to think that they they think he's like uh

52:29Potentially and again, not my words. This is just my my interpretation of this and they think that he might be a little creepy or Spanky is the person that maybe you think that you know, maybe they think he's giving some unwanted Yeah, yeah, I don't like the body shaming that is that is uncalled for in the comic book um, but I I don't know. I don't know how they got here. They they were like he's tall He's uh Gangley well that rhymes sort of I mean Sort of with strangler Like is he giving cranky? I don't To my knowledge is not particularly spanky He is lanky He does like to cuddle, but he's not necessarily one to give uh spanky Yeah, he's a little handsy From you know, what people say inside of the house

53:31But it is interesting right because this does not appear in any way shape or form To be a a a super hero per his point the rest of them He's revealing yeah, but are there anyone any any I guess the execution or might be a villain right? I guess so So the Austin Gangler uh probably you know you hear stories of like oh, I have they sent me might be be comic There's always like an unboxing video of like oh like they sent me my stuff. Here's my key Here's my BB comic. I don't know if Barrett will be framing the Austin Gangler. Yeah, you're like bring someone home from the bars And then this is hanging over your face. Oh Yeah, that's my becoming like He's lanky cranky and he'll give you a spanky. What do they mean by the He's like I gotta go. Yeah, okay. Uh let's then talk about the de-stroyer Probably more of note watch out these nuts I've never been more disappointed in Pooja than when last night he comes onto ramble and says

54:37That he did not enjoy these nuts. Are you kidding me? I left out loud when I saw these nuts. Although I am famous Yeah, for liking you know He's like he's from he's from thing Come on. He's acting offended. Yeah, so good. They took it the extra mile They put this the de-stroyer would have been boring watch out. Yeah, this is probably and it's fitting to Yeah, she is not watch out watch out bar. These nuts double meaning. It's perfect. Okay diamond devins 24 carrots of kickass Yeah, this is bad. Mm-hmm. This means this is absolutely meaningless. Uh, you know, it's not like he didn't He didn't do anything to even get the diamond power view the costumes horrible. What are these bizarre planes that are there? Uh, I think I would have preferred even daddy devins. Yeah, I think I would have preferred You know put him in a Hawaiian shirt or something, you know, just like yeah have have some little young insur That's a great has been on Rick Evans's neck about his appearance. Uh, they've called him old. They've called him wrinkly

55:40This they didn't quite dirty here. I think with his hairline Yeah, I mean come on guy You get wrinkles when you're an expressive person when you are older your hair is not as full as it used to be This man is not his fault. He cannot control these things I think there's a really a lot of body shaming from big bread zing-bott the comic books Yeah, I agree just trust some hair on the man for goodness sakes You know make make barret a normal shaped body like I just really that hard Okay The have drew rebel without a comb a hairdo or dye um They got Taylor some airtime to take away his comb so that was good, but other than that This is kind of nothing. No, but I do think that they they captured The bizarre face he was making in his wall photo pretty well It's like it's some sort of like he's smelling something. He's up to something I I have the You know the rock eyebrow. He has a some sort of

56:43Cocked eyebrow there as well. Uh, I think the hair this one. I think the the artistry is good I don't know what any of it means. Yeah, he's not really that rebellious. He's not really in a do or die situation It's like they they just I don't even know like he had a brush not even a comb like in the brainstorming session How did they get to rebel without a comb? It's not great. I don't know I think they were struggling with Drew Also that they showed the big brother full intro package Not once but twice over these last couple of episodes this week I think that they were maybe the Wednesday night two hour episode and then also again on sunday I think they needed to Pad things a little bit so they showed the full intro Drew's hair from where he started to where it is now is actually insane Yeah, he does not even look like the same person He's had a he's had an experience in the house. Yeah, okay. All right lady of the latrine This is melody they kind of uh, they phone this one in she makes sure the royals can flush

57:49Barely makes sense There is a real stretch of to call that word play is his Yeah, you know, I know it's it's some sort of royal flush thing But what what or where the royals what are we talking about makes absolutely no sense the only thing is and I don't know if the shade was intended here Is that you know since she's done nothing in in the game that you know, but but she hasn't even been one of the people servicing the royals So it's really not even fitting of her um terrible terrible terrible. Yeah, I mean this is this is like when uh Last year cat had to get hers was all about having a nose ring because she just didn't do anything You know, it's like with the way they have literally nothing hold on I'm going in my uh, I'm like whose cat El Catherine. Yeah, yes, yes, yes, I Yeah, it's cat But she's called yeah, that's what I call it. Yeah, it's what you call there. All right, uh, let's give a pot almighty Here is Taylor and what does it say? Uh, she'll make you go 99

58:49Yeah, okay, I think she's born. Yeah, I don't think yeah, I mean, I think I wouldn't be thrilled To back to back with the Zingbot followed by this to hear that productions perception of me is that I stay in bed all night You know, no, that that that probably Would instead of making me retreat back to my pod. I would probably make me say like oh, maybe I should leave the pod But I guess you know when you're pod almighty that's a little bit I think that for future contestants of like oh, I gotta be I gotta be out doing stuff I can't just I can't be in my bed. I think they're gonna give me pot almighty Yeah, but in all sincerity. What are you doing in your bed all day long? This is like, you know, it's the opportunity of a lifetime you're playing a game go do something make a relationship But they make it a really can't be in your bed. How about that? Yeah, I agree I agree and also just like beating the points to death. It's like uh, we get it already She's it's the hang down our bed. Okay fine. Yeah, it's like it's not that funny. All right um then

59:49Yash is the skull it. I don't really know what kind of superhero this is he seems to be a barber One grim trim De this definitely seems like a mass murderer Sure I only he looks very evil in this I I would be frightened if I went to the barber and this is uh What was awaiting me but uh, okay. Yeah, I mean he has a Yes, uh, never before seen haircut on the show. Yeah. Okay. I mean, it's like I think that the thing is I wouldn't even describe it as low hanging fruit because they're not even jokes They're just that's the problem. It's just they're just facts. That's the problem Angela was an egg He does have this haircut Taylor sits in bed Rick played the diamond veto. These are not like creative exercises These are just facts about I'm really confused also what is this outfit that Yash is wearing as The skull it he's got sort of like this like uh very like uh

1:00:51I know that yeah Kind of weird. Also did he remove this this gentleman's eyes is that also The minute is also you seem like you get the yash haircut and then you're under his spell Yeah, makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and also I would not like for my defining trait in the game because it's not his defining trait in the game to be Like uh, I have a haircut It's not that's not something you did on the show he showed up with the haircut. Yeah. Okay. Um, yeah, I guess uh, Mel says uh, so sweet Is this like a sweetie Todd sweetie? Yash mm-hmm mm-hmm. Okay. All right, um All right, there we got here's Lala and she is the tongue thrasher Okay Okay, you like it I mean again, it's it's fine. It's fine. It's just like I feel I feel like these have really reduced them down to uh, you know

1:01:53One trend. I guess in the scheme of things at least this is something she won something positive It's fun. Yeah, she like it. I think there are worse things to be known for that's for sure. Okay. All right Haley is the flanimal Look out she's having a plaid week probably one of the best lines on any of the comic she's having a plaid week Yeah, that's good, but again your time on the show has now been reduced to you wear a certain type of shirt You could have been the flanimal or or the or having a plaid week just a few years ago Do you do you feel connected to this in any way? Um, I feel connected that when I made the thog song There was a line uh, that I think I said that uh You know, homegirl is the flanimalist so I feel like uh, that she thinks she's the show's protagonist You know, homegirl is the flanimalist I believe was a line. Why is her comic taking place in 1993 um, it's because she's grunge It's grunge bass grunge bass. It's interesting because I while she did wear like two shirts the entire summer

1:03:00I certainly never thought of her as being like having a grunge style Maybe that's bad my bad, but you know, I was alive during that time. I don't really seem very grungy All right pipe queen all All high no hype all pipe So maybe maybe all hard Uh my my wife watches the show with me, but sometimes she's doing work or doing other things Kids and like so she'll come in and out sometimes so sometimes like a slightly deeper reference She won't know and she said I saw the comic books said is the pipe queen some sort of Is that some sort of innuendo is that like a sex thing and I said really no She just actually won a pipe competition in week one Said are you sure I said I think so hey hope so I like that she's sitting on the iron throne I don't understand why this became such a big thing inside of the house Because Rick Davins couldn't remember her name and that's why uh that he just called her pipe queen

1:04:02Well that I believe the reason all right mixed martial artist and You don't want to be part of this collection This is atrocious. I assume that this goes back to like his um his like key video And I just don't remember that he was like some artist I don't believe so if not if not then it's complete gibberish um Yes, it's absolutely nothing to do with him nor does it have to do with mixed martial art nor is it funny or or is it super hero? Yeah, all of it keep going It's like this like I think that they thought that uh comma was like a hot stove and they don't want to touch it So they decided to completely punt on it and like let's do yeah He's coming back for finale. We don't want to take our ass. He's he's painting here You know that won't upset anybody. This is so Bad and you know that like this guy would love it if he was with like the the fighter planes and all of this type of stuff

1:05:08Maybe that's maybe they're just trying to like do some things like yeah not beating people up painting a clown and Chuck wagon Yeah Drawing a line dance in the sand so that doesn't go back to his intro package Yeah, it's chuck time was right there. That's the only words we needed on this comic book come on Yeah, we've been fine. Okay, uh then we had welcome to doll city is quite funny though Don't get small detail on the side. That's good I like I love when the show just openly turns on you and they they're just saying like you suck That's just good. That is good. Okay, uh lyric is the one hit wonder Oh, no, I think I'm gonna change my love for you is that uh is that uh Uh oats from hauling oats that she's fighting down there. I presume it's her father Your father's song could be oats, but All right, horrible. I mean

1:06:11First of all With all due respect to her father To say that he is is famous. I think might be a stretch of the imagination He is a man who once had some music success and that is fantastic and I am in no way shape reform raining on that I love that But she does not need her life to be being the child of someone that barely anyone knows that she posted about it all the time on tiktok Oh, I guess, but this is not trying to escape it What about the shower peer Yeah, that could have been some but the other people in the house didn't know that only Mallory knew that All right, but this does not even seem to speak to a single thing she did Yeah, bad really bad. Okay, who's that Michael Jackson in the bottom? I think it's I think it's oats Oh, yeah, all right heavy kettle Jason uh that remember when you hit the teapot Yeah

1:07:16Protecting with messy be words everywhere This reminds me of crang But I think I would have just preferred like him looking like a superhero Holding a tea kettle like I see what they did here, but turning into this whole apparatus. I don't know Okay, yeah, it's fine. You know, these are just not very good. Okay. I think that you like and then we have the Rome answer What do you see where he's a lover and a fighter? I don't know. He's like um some kind of like a pirate Yeah, it's like an indiana Jones pickleball pirate. It is a lover and a fighter. Yeah, he's a lover fighter Okay, and uh and then finally we have burger Kong What is burger Kong burger Kong that like what is the story of burger Kong uh destruction with cheese um She is like somebody who is like a giant like a king Kong, but then he's like

1:08:16Taking the tops of building off and and and eating them like their burgers Yes, there's absolutely no word play here. She's not scabbling a building Burger does not sound like king in any way. There's no eliteration I You know burger zilla maybe yeah, like the shibiburger queen Yeah, or like uh like uh isn't barburella some sort of characterly the maybe like a burger relic Possibly I do not exactly know what is going on here You know this you would have had to pay a bookie to to bet on this one You know like they're not paying out that she was gonna be a burger That was very I what if she was a burger that would have been better Yeah, she's a burger yeah burger lady Okay, all right Couple of questions for Eric that came in uh Michael Horowitz. No, what would erics be be comic have been I was thinking about this uh But it's hard to say I think it would have been beauty in the beast where I was some sort of disfigured

1:09:20Barrett like creature pining after dangle. Yeah, I think that that's what it would be because they couldn't make me Patriotic I could not have done anything, you know America's player related um, and I think that that would have wiped out, you know 95% of what I actually did in the house So I think I think it would have been like how pathetic I was uh, you know defending my showman or something Okay, uh also Michael Horowitz said earlier about your bathing suits are that that bathing suit couldn't hold all that ass Well, I appreciate that Michael, but I think that it is not exactly just the ass I think it's the ass the additional 20 pounds. I'm carrying that I try to zip into a bathing suit that no longer fit me The uh, you know, I think it was a well-earned pairing, you know, I think I kind of had it coming So, you know, it's totally fine. Okay, and then Keenan watcher says uh, who would win in a fight Austin also known as Judas or the Austin Gangler

1:10:23I could really I mean Barrett is is very tall, but Austin is very large Um, yeah, Austin I think is one of these people that when you get in person that is like a lot bigger than you think he is um Because we associate him with being barefoot getting evicted by uh, you know, Steve and Finis Not not with being a giant dinosaur. Uh, I do have my money on Austin not the Austin Gangler. I do have a question for you Rob um, so when you were away Um Matt and I had a conversation about how much we love Lying and how that was one of the most part the fun parts of Big Brother because in my day-to-day life I am honest to a fact I think some people would actually say they would like me to lie more to spare Feelings or to not be as direct and blunt, but in the Big Brother game Uh, I assuredly am a proud liar and and if I were to play again, I would love to lie even more

1:11:23So I wanted to ask you are you a known liar like D is no you know, I actually think I am not a known liar. Uh, I actually I don't enjoy lying either I think it's one of the reasons why when I went to go beyond the traders I really wanted to be a faithful. I think that what I really like doing is like calling out truth that uh Like an uncovering when other people are lying. I think that that's the thing that appeals to me more And so it's it's like I don't know if uh, you know I had to do it a bit on survivor, but I don't think I'm particularly good at it I think and maybe it spoke more to the skill level of the people that I was playing with at that time But I don't think I am uh, particularly gifted as as a liar I think that I really do enjoy more of like coming up with scenarios that like work for everybody and like Calling out some of the like hypocrisy and when people are like

1:12:26lying and I like figuring things out more than I like lying Yeah creative ideation is is your your specialty to say I so which I think what D and Devons were doing with yash this week I love though The way Devon said it so matter of factly like I don't think he thought he was insulting her I think he was literally saying like in a conversation amongst friends like But do you ever know and liar so like I I really think you might be lying and she was so offended by it I thought it was great I think one of the things that for me they are bringing to to the show and the experience is that And and I wish that that everyone got to play with house money in this way is that it's not the be all end all of their lives They have done this they have done it many times before and they're playing with an ease Where it's like, you know what? This is a game. It's not the end of the world. We're gonna have fun with it. We're gonna push buttons Inside of the game But it's like there's a level of like they they they're able to take a deep breath process it and handle it in a

1:13:28Down to earth way whereas People who are experiencing it for first time and haven't done it before and it's probably their only time There's so much pressure and that's what's happening the barrens right is crumbling under the pressure And they are rising to the occasion and having fun with it They're doing yeah and devids did this on survivor 52 He's doing exactly what I would want to do and fear that I would not do if given the opportunity to play a game again Is he's just enjoying it. He's on a TV show He's away from his family and instead of sitting there lamenting it the whole time about his game position or who's there and who he hates You know how many times have we heard dc? I'm having so much fun. I never thought this would be so much fun That's cool. It's not necessarily everyone's type of fun that they want to be rooting for and that's totally fine And they have been advantage in the game and that's fine But watching them play for me has been fun and I and I feel like I can feel Their energy and their efforts, you know through the screen. Yeah, Barrett's gonna think about this every single day for the rest of his life

1:14:30Do you may never think about this ever again after it's over right? She probably just chuckled and was like that was great I came up with a good line. Yeah, I think you know what I think the word I'm looking for is perspective They have perspective on what they're doing and that is extremely helpful and extremely rare inside of the game as it's unfolding some people game perspective outside of the game But like I think that they are taking it for what it's worth and they're still playing hard and they're still going for it But they're not like You know unraveling Right Eric I have a big day ahead. It is the first lady of podcasting's birthday. We have a day of fun That I have planned for my wife and we'll see that was she could be the judge of how fun it was Eric what's coming up for you? Well, I am Normally don't talk about things like this on the podcast, but I I'm gonna briefly mention so I have a big pitch coming up for work Where I am I am pitching a social strategy show to some major buyers that we are all familiar with in the coming days

1:15:36And I am certainly not at liberty to discuss the the details of it, but um I have taken inspiration from my experience back in the Big Brother streets and My thoughts are that where These games and these shows that we love so much need to go is Into formats that capitalize more on the fervor of the fandom right the shows that do the best are the shows that have these Live adjacent real-time communities like love island like big brother and I think that the next step in social strategy is interactive. It's experiential. It's hands-on and it's taking these very impassioned fan Discussions that are sitting there right for the taking that are dying to get their hands on it and involving them a little bit more in the game now historically when the fans have been involved In reality competition shows particularly

1:16:39Voting in them they have done a disgraceful job and ruins the shows By picking horrible winners and getting shows canceled left and right and setting them on another course But the good news is I am a format expert So I believe that I have created a new format that is going to capitalize on both things I can do one Get more involved Direct and channel this energy in a positive way more like an opera. Yes towards the game. We all love I never saw that swap nor did I snorted? I read that chapter in his right like how he said I never saw the movie not like I never learned about this in real life, but um the And but without breaking the game. So I have a couple of pitches lined up this week I'm excited about it because I think I have built a better mouse trap now Generally speaking when you pitch a better mouse trap to a TV buyer They hate that because they like their own mouse traps and they're not actually looking to make things better

1:17:40And they would rather me just like you know do crispy cream presents like the donut hole show or something like that Like that if you if you're glazing you won't be glazed hosted by right And come on, bro. Yeah Yes, uh, so do I think that everyone is going to understand it? Uh or or that it's going to get purchased? I do not but I'm still excited by it because I like you know I these shows we love them very much. I don't know that they were necessarily designed to be on the air as long as they have been and I do think that on occasion They show some warts and I think that like you know when when top chef was invented They didn't think what would happen 25 years from now when they're still just putting a piece of salmon on the plate Like it's still you know like we we do need to evolve sometimes And I do think that I have modernized gameplay and I'm really excited to hear what they have to say about it But I am not optimistic

1:18:41You know, so of like uh, hey like would you be willing to watch a show that was blah blah blah blah And then and then in real time show the executives like here. Here's the real time polling the people want this I did think about that but then I also thought it would be like Screw you Like see how much people to go you mentioned that commu dude x y and z you know right Yeah, it still might be illustrating my point though right? I mean like look I could literally post anything and get 500 people yelling at me. See yeah, okay All right, well good luck Eric We'll be back next week with more summerstein tarryn is standing by with life feed update in about 15 minutes We will have an eviction episode coming up tonight. So we will see you then and of course Plenty of other great stuff on rjp including a wild Season 51 preview with Mike bloom that you got to check out to learn who these season 51 players are take care of it. Have a good one. Hi