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October 2nd, 2025, 5pm: On the second day of the government shutdown, Trump administration official Russel Vought has already threatened mass firings amid the government shutdown. Nicolle Wallace with our panel of experts and Texas State Representative James Talarico discuss the implications of Vought’s comments and Trump’s plans to cut “democrat agencies” amid the shutdown. Plus, comedian Cristela Alonzo joins Nicolle to discuss how to find joy and laughter in dark times.
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