The Cast and Creative Team of 'The Outsiders'

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2:03of some exciting news we announced earlier this week. Broadway on the radio is returning, and our first event is on Friday September 18th. We'll kick off our fall season with the 2026 Tony Award winner for Best Musical, Schmigadun. What is happening? Who are they singing to? I don't know. It must be something they do for tourists. Oh, like colonial Williamsburg. Oh. Shade. I do where the sun shines bright from the light to the two.

3:06And the air's as sweet as a macro-rune Schmigadun. Excuse me. We'll be joined by creator Cinco Paul, plus cast member Sarah Chase, Anne Herada, Brad Oscar, and Malik Pancholi. They'll be here to perform live. We'll also be joined by brand new cast member and three time Tony nominee, Jennifer Samard. It's happening live in the WNYC green space on Friday, September 18th at 12 noon. You can get your tickets now by going to wnyc.org slash events. Now to wet your appetite for more Broadway on the radio, here's the outsiders live in the green space. The outsiders won the 2024 Tony Award for Best Musical. Now a few months ago, the cast had a major cast replacement. And if you haven't had a chance to see them, you will get to meet them today.

4:07We have on stage with us Noah Pax, Caleb Murtha, Sikkoia Dan Barrett, Sutton James Taylor, and original cast member Emma Pittman. And behind them, let's hear it for the band. I want to give a shout out to the mayor's office of media and entertainment for featuring this month in the radio city lineup of New York Music Month. Now if you're not here with us in person or listening to us, you can see the Schindig by going to wnyc.org. We can catch a live stream of today's broadcast. Now to set the scene, here's the cast of Broadway is the outsider singing Tulsa 67. Applause. I've never been out of Tulsa before.

5:09I wonder what it would be like. I've never known anybody to live Most people get stuck here for life My brother could have been a football star People say he had it to get out My other brother suffers from a broken heart From a girl he loved to up and moved away We got no parents we faint for ourselves There's no one to show us the way My brothers are trying but they're always out Just working their poor lives away

6:12My name is Pony Boy the youngest of the three I know there's so much more to life than what's in front of me So I sneak into the movies just to glimpse the other side Rather take the risk and see it Than to never even try When I am looking up and new means on the screen The entire world just melts away And for a moment I'm not worried about a thing I just sit back and let the movie start to play But unlike in the movies and the books I like to read Nothing in this sound plays out the same They tell me it was different back when we could all agree But somewhere down the line we lost our way

7:15Replace is to go with things to do So they took one town and they split it into all the money we're west Keep the Greece to these The train ran down on the billiard of the bees Here we are now I'm talking to you When I get to the end to me what do I do? In a town that's torn into What's a Greece from? They say I supposed to do I can see a dozen, nineteen, sixty-seven And there's just one thing you need to know You got research and sources That's how it's always been That's probably how it's always gonna go In a town that's torn into What's a Greece from? They say I supposed to do What's a Greece from? They say I supposed to do

8:16That's probably how it's always gonna go That was the outsiders Alright I wanna talk to you the Curtis Brothers Y'all get up ready, how are you? I'm wonderful, how are you? I'm doing well. Noah, how would you describe Pony Boy? Pony Boy is fourteen years old growing up in Tulsa in the sixties And he's a dreamer, he's an artist, he's a writer And he's sort of in this world where maybe people don't understand who he is And where he comes from the Greekers have to be tough They're kind of poor, they're bullied by the socious And so he's a young person trying to find his way in the world When you come out on stage you sit on that tire What are you thinking about as the show gets to start? That's a great question, yeah so before the show officially starts I walk in from the back of the house I get to kind of subtly connect with the audience And then climb on stage, sit on that tire and have a journal open

9:18And we've kind of talked with our directors with Don Yautai Moore and Autumn Miranda Who are associate directors about what that moment is And the rule is you can write whatever you want if you're playing Pony Boy But it just has to be something true So backstage before the show our cast will come together And there's usually Emma has these cards that have a word on them We'll pick a word of the day and that's sort of the anthem for the show So usually I'll write something about that word Simplicity or joy, you know, it's something like that Sutton, how do you describe Tony Boy's role in the family? Yeah, I play Soda Pop so I'm the middle brother of the family And he's described at the very beginning of the show as Soda smiles all the time Even when he probably shouldn't And so that's kind of what I take that and try to use that throughout the show To set a foundation for my character But I really, it also is described, he's described as the heart and soul of the family And kind of as the emotional glue that keeps this family together

10:19Particularly in the second act, he does a lot of maturing as the show goes on And this song that we'll sing shortly is a big moment and turning point for Soda in the show What advice would you give Soda at this point in his life? Stop thinking about getting his heart broken Because a lot of the show he's devastated from his ex-girlfriend who left town And I would say move on man, you got so much life to live So Darrell, he's in a hard role man He's got to be parent, the whole family, the parents have passed away What's interesting to you about his relationship with his brothers and then with the greasers as a whole? Yeah, I mean I think Darrell's role in the show is he's basically playing their parents And he has to kind of raise them, I think I don't know, I mean I mean what's the first part of that question? What is this relationship to his brothers and then the greasers?

11:20Okay well to the greasers because we already know he's the parent So to the greasers, I think he's trying to be the alpha, I think he wasn't charged But I think because of the loss of his parents he has to kind of step down from that role And be obviously a parent so Dali has stepped forward and taken over that role And him and Darrell don't get along about that and how he chooses to try to raise his brother You know, no, a pony boy has to sort of narrate the show How do you think about your performance differently when you're in the show versus narrating? Yeah, well that's a great question because there's a very thin line I write between being in like every present moment in the scene And then being connected with the audience and breaking the fourth wall and explaining what's happening And so I think that's kind of part of the fun of the show as an actor to get to really quickly shift between being in this world and being in this world I think it's kind of like I always have one foot in both worlds and you can kind of see how the audience is, how they're ruining the show And try to connect with the people on stage so I think it's really just about the eyes

12:22You find the eyes of whoever you're talking to and then the rest kind of happens naturally Yeah Why do you think Soda Pop just doesn't let the two brothers fight it out? Pony Boy and Darrell That's a good question He does until he doesn't I think especially at the end of the show once all of the events have unfolded He kind of reaches a breaking point And I think it's about like once again like being the glue of the family And since they're so different from each other I think Soda is kind of what keeps us together in that sense But why doesn't he let them... what was the exact reason? Because he loves them Yeah, sure because he loves them That's what I thought because he loves others What's Darrell's biggest worry for Pony Boy? Oh, him not reaching the success that he knows he can get I think Darrell and Soda Pop's lives are kind of put on hold

13:24And I think Soda's more than okay with that And I think Darrell understands his role And he's a great Pony Boy He still has so much ahead of him He's the brightest as we know And I think he just kind of wants to Not let his parents down I think that's a huge weight that he's been given But he obviously stands up to the plate Because he loves his parents And he does it for them and for his brothers And yeah Now Noah, you worked with Donutaymore on John Proctor as the villain I did, yeah that's my Broadway debut And yes And Donutaymore directed this as well The outsiders as well What was something you learned about her as a director that helped you in the outsiders? I'm such a big fan of Donutaymore I think that's part of it is I was a fan of the outsiders just as a show before Even doing John Proctor as the villain So getting to meet her in that audition was really exciting in its own right Just as a fan of the outsiders Because I was like, whoa, this is the woman who made that show

14:24That's crazy Really unique as a director and so accomplished Is that she meets actors where they are Especially for both times Understudying in John Proctor's the villain And then coming in to a show that's already been established That's twice now that I've worked in roles that have been originally played by someone else And I think that's kind of a, it can be a tricky job as an actor If a director doesn't give them freedom to say you have to find your own way in And Don, you does She gives so much freedom to say like who are all of us are playing roles that have also been played by us? And so like to have the courage and confidence to bring yourself to it Takes a lot of reassurance from a director and she I think gives that to us You know this book really sort of established YA, young adult literature as a serious form Why do you think this story resonates so much with young people? We had people out there at 8am waiting to get in here I think a large reason is because S.E. Hinton was in high school when she was in high school And it just speaks to the young experience so effectively

15:26I think and then into our musical we try to implement that same thing And try to connect with young audiences as much as possible in the work Yeah All right, we have a lot of Broadway directors and producers who listen to this show So I'm going to ask you what's your dream role? For a long time it was Ponyboy So I'm going to ask you what's your dream role? For a long time it was Ponyboy So now I got to think of a new one Oh man Oh, oh, I want to play Robin in like as a Batman in Robin Like Robin, I want to be in like in the DC universe I want to be Robin I want to be Robin, okay, how about you? Jack Kelly was a big dream role of mine growing up And I got to do it out in Utah two summers ago at a small summer stock So that checked the box but I suppose now I would say probably Melkie or from Spring Awakens Hey, how about you? I feel like I don't know, I always, it's kind of cliche but I feel like it's out there

16:28Like I want to kind of build something but I feel like in my past I've always loved by By Birdie And I think the character of Albert is awesome so You heard it here I put in this out in the universe and we're going to hear throwing in the towel Do you want to set this up for us real quick? Yeah, this happens in Act 2 Pony Boy and Johnny Kate have just fled Tulsa because of something And Darrell is trying to figure out what's going on, find them And Daly is not providing the information so they get into a little fight, a little tiff And Darrell feels like he's at the end of his rope, he's losing a lot of hope And Mr. Sotopop here consoles him And you want to continue that? Yeah, so Darrell's almost broken in this moment and it's really Sotopop's responsibility Like I said, this is when he's really finding the maturity that he hasn't really found in the past before And so this is him stepping up as the middle brother

17:28Without parents to take care of his older brother for the first time And I think it's a large part of, hey, you've been there for me all these times So let me be there for you for the first time and that's kind of what I think about every night This is from the outsiders There ain't nothing I can do for you I know that pony boys really got a damn good heart Something about him that I really could take him far but I keep holding him down I've run this family right into the ground

18:30Maybe you'd be best without me I don't know what else to say I lost our brother and I lost my way I think a fool could have done better Maybe I've been afraid to say That I'm just not cut out for this Just another failure on a growing list And it's harder now than ever It's more than I can take There ain't no one to bail me out There ain't no saving this enough I think I'm throwing it in the towel

19:30On the days when you're feeling like you're torn into Making dinner, bare meals that are overdue You think that I don't see You go to hell if it was left up to me And I don't know what we would do if you were not around No one to keep this shippled floor when it's going down You're there where I need you And anyone can see that pony just you I know you love him That's all you gotta do And I don't know what else to say I know you feel like you've lost your way But I think you're doing better You better than you know

20:30If it comes back, there's a price to pay What if they like our brother way There ain't no way you've known We gotta get our brother home This is the darkest night The darkest night You're looking up at it, you can't see no light But the time is now and ever There ain't no letting go You love me like I can't give it out We need you more than ever now Don't go throwing it in the towel I know you had his fold down The brother there's a lot of this out of the bow Don't go throwing it in the towel

21:32When you love someone that's all that you can do There ain't no throwing in the towel Stan Berry and Sutton James singing throwing in the towel For in Broadway is the outsiders We have more music on the way This is Broadway on the radio from all of it on W and Y.C. I'm Allison Stewart We're listening to our latest Broadway on the radio event with the cast of the outsiders Let's get back into it Here's the song I could talk to you all night I was under the impression You've never read a book at all Do wrapped up in your aggression Out on a street and fighting bros

22:34I'm a star in the world I'm a star in the world I'm a star in the world I'm a star in the world I'm a star in the world Out on a street and fighting bros And now you're talking about the sunset And how the colors turn bright Suddenly it seems That I could talk to you for hours But these hours go like minutes I could talk to you all night I never talk like this with socials We keep our feelings to ourselves

23:34I tell my friends I like their parties I wish I had some rules I know exactly what you say You gotta fake it too But I'd rather read and fight a rumble But greasers have to go along It's like you're always just pretending It's just a party you have to play Feels like your spread's never running It's gotta be better way But we would feel so simple Something about this feels right Suddenly it seems I could talk to you for hours But these hours go like minutes

24:36I could talk to you all night I don't want this night to end I bet our friends are wondering where we live You imagine what they'd say If any of them were to start glancing away And won't get me wrong when I say I'm surprised And I've never thought I'd see hope in your eyes It makes me believe that there may be a chance For a world beyond the greasers And the show's changed Could it ever be Suddenly it seems I could talk to you for hours But these hours go like minutes

25:40I could talk to you all night That was Emma Pittman and Noah Pax I could talk to you all night from Broadway's The Outsiders Let's hear it for the band one more time Emma, why did Sherry and Pony Boy connect? I always think it's about being honest It's so much of being a person But especially being a teenager in a place where there are things put on you And ideas put on you when you first walk into a room There's a lot of masking that goes on But for the first time for whatever reason Honesty is what flows between Pony Boy and Sherry And I think the ease in their honesty Is what allows them to be so vulnerable with each other

26:40And I think the question you never read a book at all What does reading mean to Pony Boy? Reading is his escape I think everyone in Tulsa at this time lived in a dark time and place And there's a lot of violence between the so-shers And the greasers is a lot of violence within just the so-shers And I think books are sort of fantasy escape It's like in the way people love theater It's like Pony Boy loves movies And he's got a beautiful imagination There's a song, a song, a song of the show called Great Expectations Based on Charles Dickens Did you read that? I read that on the internet but I want to know if it's true When I moved to New York, I bought a copy of Great Expectations And I wrote the opening lines of that song Which is excuse me Mr. Dickens, I've got something on my mind In January 2025 or something Before I had an audition Just knowing that the day would come hopefully And I'd be ready So it was kind of like a, I don't know, it was my little secret

27:40I would like bring the book with me to the audition and stuff What was helpful for you to play Cherry? Oh, I think that a lot of Cherry is true for me I grew up in a small town in Mississippi And I felt very very connected to her when I was a kid When I read the book I also did the play version of this show when I was in the 10th grade And I got to play Marsha, which is Cherry's best friend And I just fell in love with Cherry I love the idea that she was radically honest with Pony Boy And also with her friends eventually So finding the courage to stand up for what she believes And it's something that I'm not necessarily very good in personally So it's exciting to lean into that, to lean into her every night And also like Pay O'Mah to this like eighth grade Emma That felt so connected to her when I was so small Oh, there's a tradition of you handing out a copy of the book to someone in the audience How do you decide who you hand the book to? Oh, it's a vibe based experience

28:40It's very much an essence thing I think there is something magical about that moment for me And so I don't ever want to choose it You know what I mean? So I don't ever like want to promise anyone before anything like that Because I think it should just be like The one chooses the wizard You know what I mean? Like it'll just kind of happen naturally So it just depends, you know, I get to connect with the audience and I'll see Usually in the last 10 seconds before I give it away I'll just look in people's eyes and I'll just kind of see who needs it that day I guess So many love stories are about people from opposite sides of the world falling in love Why do you think the outsiders brings this particular model This is a regular trope But the outsiders is a little bit different. What does it bring? I think that it brings real love in the sense of friendship and being seen rather than romantic love I think while short there is definitely a crush between Jerry and Pony Boy I'm not saying that it's not true But I think what is more true is their ability to see each other for who they really are on the inside

29:44And I think that's really important for young people That's why Susie wrote the book at 14 Because she felt like she saw people trying to be someone that they weren't And no one was being for real No one was being honest and so that's why she decided to write this Because she was like no one is writing what I see which is all of this violence All of this fake, all of this, you know, fighting for things that we don't even know why we're fighting And I think that having this like a trope of love but allowing it to be real I think it's what's important for this story Yeah, I agree, I also think there's something interesting about the relationship with Pony and Cherry I don't know if you tell me if you agree with this but it feels sometimes like Pony allows Cherry to be a little bit messier And the way that the greases are And Cherry allows Pony to be a little bit cleaner And it's like I have to keep this front as Pony Boy in front of the greasers of being tough and being rugged And I feel like there's this piece I find with Cherry of... It's like opposite to track kind of thing, whether it's friendship or whatever this kind of like in between thing that the relationship is There's a balance they find in each other A nuance Yeah, Emma, you've been with the show from the beginning

30:47Yes, right What has it been like for you to watch the show grow from... Oh my gosh, are we gonna make it too? Oh yeah, we got a Tony Award It's been such a gift, I think that we just hit yesterday our matinee was our 900th show Which is crazy And it's the longest thing I've ever done in my whole life And I think the thing that I keep coming back to is it's such beautiful writing It's such a beautiful story that we can all relate to It's something that touches people's hearts whether you see yourself in Pony Boy or you see yourself in Bob Or you see yourself in Cherry Like it touches you in different ways in your life And I think that it's been so exciting to see new people step into new roles Like Dan Berry originated the part of Paul and now he is taking on this beautiful journey as the older brother And it is so gorgeous and nuanced and true because the writing is so excellent And it holds people just like Noah was saying, Danya allows the writing and the direction to hold every single person as they are in their own characters

31:49And that's why I think it's gonna continue on and being alive and touching the hearts of young people and all people alike We're gonna talk about you like you're not here Okay What have you learned from Emma about being on Broadway about being in the show? So much, Emma is like the, I can't speak highly enough about, she's like the perfect example of showing up, of leadership I feel like Emma is the epitome of responsibility Like you show up on time, you lead by example, you help all the new people Like so we are put in, which if you don't know what a put in rehearsal is It's the day before your very first show, you do a full run of the show It's the show in every way except there's not an audience, so costume and makeup and blood and everything And I was more nervous for the put in than I was even for the first show Like I was terrified I was freaking out And Emma just like wrote this little note for me that I still have in my dressing room that just said Hop on the train and ride it and it'll take you where you need to go, it's like along those lines And that's kind of the spirit that she brings to the show, she's looking out for everyone

32:52Everybody, Emma Pittman and Noah Pakman, outsiders, we've got more music on the way This is all of it This is all of it from WNYC, I'm Allison Stewart Earlier this week we announced our fall 2026 season of Broadway on the radio events Including our kickoff with Schmigga Dune on Friday September 18th You can get your tickets now by going to wnyc.org slash events Now let's return to our Broadway on the radio event with the cast of the outsiders Here's the song Little Brother First they beat us down

33:55When after another Keep losing ground No way to take over They want us out of town And who would they beat on Who would they spit on Who would they blame it on If we weren't around Now we're never going back Everything is lost

34:57And we'll never get it back Cause our lines been crossed Little brother Sorry I failed you I could not save you No I can't even save myself Little brother They cannot hurt you anymore They cannot take anymore from me If I ain't got you

35:58Then I ain't got nothing else If anything was fair You would still be here Does anybody care When a dream so disappears When never going back Everything is lost And we'll never get it back Cause our lines been crossed Little brother

37:00Sorry I failed you I could not save you No I can't even save myself Little brother They cannot hurt you anymore They cannot save you Then I ain't got nothing else If I ain't got you Then I ain't got nothing else There's only one way out I finally see that now It took the only thing that mattered to me anyhow That's why I'm standing here

38:00No guitar on a way That's all I've ever done But now it's time for me to stay Do it for all of us The faces in the crowd And when they try to shut you up You scream twice as loud Do it for cool and look Do it for Jesse James Do it for all the unsung heroes Do it for Tony Boy Do it for Johnny Kane Don't leave us all in turn Don't leave us in a great Johnny And you're coming home That's how I take my final mouth Hope you sing the same for me Johnny can you see me now That was Sequoia singing Little brother from the outside This is Broadway on the radio Let's bring you the stage Kaila Matur who plays Johnny Kane It's nice to see you as well It's all I gotta say Dally sings in that song

39:01Everything is lost How has Dally changed From when we first meet him to that moment Hmm Tremendously I think when you first meet Dally Like he's been running from from here to there There to here And coming out of prison Things he knows everything You know and and his only way to connect Is through violence Like that's all he knows And then he meets Johnny He meets Tony Boy Spend spend time with them Sees the family that That Tony Boy has with Darryl and Soda And like even though they just lost their parents I think there's something envious that he feels And wishes he could have that And then it's also like alpha male That's his whole personality So it's like you know what Darryl is over there I'm gonna come and take charge of the greasers And I'm gonna take this off It's just because it keeps falling And when we hit Little Brother

40:03I think Actually at the hospital scene Like when they're in the fire I think Dallyl is just like And I think Dallyl decides to stay And not leave And stay to protect Johnny Stay to protect Tony Boy You know because he knows And by Little Brother He lost the one thing he chose to stay for You know so he doesn't have any other tools So the only way is out You know How do you see this show Being about shows and family I think that it's at the root of everything I mean Johnny lives for his shows and family Because his home life is so brutal And dark and people like Dally and Tony Boy They give him home The physical and the emotional And I think specifically with Johnny and Dallyl's relationship They counterbalance each other Johnny kind of gives Dallyl peace

41:03And he Dally gives Johnny that rebellion That saves Tony Boy's life And he's like The whole story is about shows and family I think it's the most important part for me at least Sequoia, you said after watching the Tony's And seeing the rumble scene If you haven't seen this go home Watch this on when they did it on the Tony's It's amazing That it really struck a chord with you What about that scene Really touched you Or spoke to you I don't think I've ever seen anything like it on stage Like The live reign It was just like I think the whole The scenic team did such a good job of having the set feel like it's alive Like you feel like it's a playground where kids live Like you know there's the car There's the dirt on the stage And you throw it You can use it You can use everything And the blood And the sound effects The lights Everything and then of course the rain on stage And then the slow motion part Just everything

42:03How they told that part of the story was something that I don't think I've seen You know I've seen rumbles right Like I've done Westside and I Lewis sides one of my favorite musicals And it was just immediately I was like okay like let's see what this rumble is going to be like And then it was like I was like whoa You know So yeah What's challenging for you Caleb about the setup Because there is dirt, there is rain So much is going on What did you have to learn I think it's just navigating How to protect my body I get thrown around a lot And I have ankle braces and knee pads Like we're all We have our armor for the show It built into our costumes which is nice But just like the rakes on the stage Like there's moments during stay gold Where I have to kind of use my peripheral to go up and over So I don't trip over something And there's just a lot of balancing Because it's not flat Like the gravel will naturally build up And create little pockets of bumps And you just have to be very aware all the time Yeah and it's always changing too What's been, what's been, has been a challenge for you?

43:04Um yeah I mean you know we've had certain You know it's a, it's a, it's a harsh show Like we've got certain injuries on that stage There's metal everywhere There's fire coming out of places Like it's just, it's, it's very, it's like everything Rain, there's fires All kinds of stuff going on Sometimes I'll get like a, I'll get like a bump And I'm like oh why do I feel like I'm sore here And it's like oh I bumped my shoulder right then when I walked You know like there's just things you gotta watch out for And I think, and that only takes time To, that only takes time Like you gotta do the show, gotta do the show, gotta keep your eyes open Your eyes open and everything It's interesting, in this version of the outsiders It's 1967, Dali is black I mean loving versus Virginia was just past that year And allowing interracial marriage Why is that an important aspect to his story, him being black? Thank you for that question Um I think it's interesting because the story is about class You know, and you don't leave the show being like oh this is about race You know, but it's there

44:05Like Dali is a black man Dali does, there is police brutality in the story You know, and there, but there's also, and there's also The vulnerability that Dali gets to show at the end And little brother is like everything You know, and I feel like Um, staying true to the kid essence And showing how a young black man is at this time And you could, you are this vulnerable You have the power to be this vulnerable You could find family this way Like, and it's also like majority of the greasers is, you know, we're all, we're sort of all people of color But the main family are white So it is like there is still this like brotherhood that he feels with pony boy And despite the times, despite everything, you know And I think that's the power of the story and the power of the love that is shared through like young people Um, so yeah, I'm sorry I kind of go on on a tangent But like it's, it exists

45:06And I think something that I've recently learned is like yes the audience, my feel is like oh it's class And but like for Dali it's about race as well Like that doesn't, that doesn't um, not exist for him Like it's very apparent that whole scene would derl Um, you know, he starts pointing the fingers at oh you should be locked up all these things and it's like oh This exists, you are a white man, I'm a black man and I'm still gonna choose to take care of you know It's just all these things so I'm gonna just let that out It was all good, thank you so much for sharing and being candid about that Um, I heard that you made a voice memo to yourself That you would be in this show, is that true? Yeah, I saw the production in LaHoula in San Diego before they went to Broadway And I, as soon as I left the theater pulled out my phone and I was like I got to play Johnny K one day Similar to Sequoia watching the Rumble, I just never experienced anything like that in a theater before In my life before, and I was second row and I just remember just being so in awe

46:06And feeling this very strong connection to Sky who originated the role and Johnny as a character And just, it was wild because I saw the show on March 1st, 2023 Which is also, I found this out a couple weeks ago, Johnny K's birthday, Cassuzzi has birthday, it's for everyone And I shadowed Sky for the first time on March 1st, 2026 So there's three March first that just keep popping up with me and Johnny, which is wild There's something going on with this cast and the universe and setting stuff out there, right? Yeah There's a moment in the show when you're on stage Sequoia and you're not lit and the audience can't really see you But you can kind of see us Yes What can you see in those moments? Oh yeah, oh yeah That's my favorite part I see people in the front row literally singing like straight to Ponyboy, everything that he's singing right back to him Everyone, there's someone crying over there, there's a child holding their parents hand squeezing it It's so beautiful to see how the show touches people and that's the moment that I think I can see it

47:10There's not many moments as dally where I can like, okay, I can just connect with the whole See, okay, that person's asleep, no, okay, that person, you know what I mean? But yeah, that is great expectations that moment, it's really cool All right, no, I want you to come on deck Caleb are about to hear the song Stay Gold It's the song where Caleb tells Ponyboy that he understands the meaning of Robert Frost's Let's hope he gets it, set up We understand what Robert Frost poem is about Caleb, what are you thinking about when you sing this song? I try to just be as present as possible, I think it's easy to just think about the lyrics and not forgetting anything But I found that just looking at Noah and being as dropped in as possible is kind of all you need for that moment in the show This is Stay Gold from the outsiders

48:29It might sound crazy, but hear me out It may take me to the grave, but I know what you're ponds about I have seen a pool of blood run crimson red And I've seen the sunrise coming overhead Finding beauty in the fold, it's the only way to keep from growing old My friend, Stay Gold, when you're young and the world is new It's easy to forget when you're trying just to make it through

49:35Like the morning light and the dawn it brings You see the world finding beauty in the simple things I have looked into thankful father's eyes Telling me I saved his daughter's life I do it all again, because I have found the beauty in the fold My friend, Stay Gold Looking back at the life I've had

50:39I hold onto the good cause I've made my peace with all the bad 16 years, looking all we've done I've been traded for the world, can't you see there were the lucky ones I have known a love that many never know And that love lives on no matter where I go We all will meet our end, no matter if we meet again Or old, my friend, Stay Gold

51:41My friend, Stay Gold Thanks to the cast of the outsiders, Noah Pat Caleb Murtha, Mathura, sorry, Sequoia, Dan Berry, Sutton James Kailer, and Emma Pittman Let's hear it again for the band You can catch the outsiders on a Broadway and catch this event on our live stream Thanks again to Team All of it, Simon Close produced today's events And our Broadway on the radio series Thanks to Ryan Wilde and the whole team at the Green Space Thanks again to the mayor's office of media and entertainment for featuring this event

52:44In our radio city lineup of New York Music Month I am Alison Stewart, thank you so much for being here Stay with us, we really appreciate it That was our Broadway on the radio event with the outsiders To attend one of our upcoming Broadway on the radio events, go to wnyc.org slash events You'll find information about our kickoff with the 2026 Best Musical Tony winner, Schminkadun That's happening on Friday, September 18th at noon Get your tickets for that now, go to wnyc.org slash events Coming up, all of its history Fridays continues with a biography of Malcolm X