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We do that, and I get it because it's one game for your team, and then we get six days to chop it up, or five days, and then you get ready for the next game with your team. Keep this in mind. Last year, week one, Raiders beat the Patriots. Raiders ended up with the number one pick. Patriots made it to the Super Bowl. Last year, the Steelers beat the Jets 3432. Justin Fields played great. The Jets got the number two pick. Aaron Rodgers threw four touchdown passes. Last year, week one Cardinals beat the Saints. Kyler Murray, 21-29, two touchdowns. Cardinals got the number three pick. The Niners over the Seahawks, 17-13, Seattle went on to win the Super Bowl. Set up a game. Set up a game. This is the set up.
Set up a game. So don't overreact to what you saw for either team. But I am going to overreact to Drake Meg. If I look back on his last five games, so that's at the end of the regular season, and then their playoff push. Seven touchdowns, seven interceptions. Pedestrian like. Now, he was one vote away from, or a couple of votes away, from winning the MVP. He did play great. Yes, the schedule was easier. But once he got into a consistent run of tougher games, he did not play well. Now, I'm going to put an asterisk by the numbers with the Super Bowl. He was 27-43, and he threw a couple of touchdown passes in the Super Bowl for 295 yards. But that game was out of hand. And those were garbage numbers late in the game. But you start to look at a 17-29, a 16-27, a 10-21, and then last night, 23-33,
and three interceptions in the fourth quarter. A mind-boggling interception, because you know, Mike Brabill said to him, if it's not there, don't do anything other than throw it away. He threw it right to the Seattle Seahawks. You would have been able to kick a field goal, gone into overtime, where you would have been going against a backup quarterback in Drew Lock. And Drew Lock did play well, considering you're being thrown in there after the fifth play. He didn't have any interceptions. And that's usually where I start, if I'm going to bring in a backup quarterback, how did you handle everything? Here is Drake May, after last night's loss. So I just stopped being patient. You know, I think that's a big thing. We were really good up to the point where I tried to put, you know, the fourth one down the side on the room, you know, where we were patient, and you know, dumping it off, and kind of moved the chains, and we avoided a lot of three in outs, and that was, you know, something we tried to, you know, just earn more plays and the closest to come.
So, you know, just stopping being patient, and you made decisions that you ended up, like I said, the cost of the game. You throw in a double coverage. That's your mistake. The last play, you know, where you get picked off, my love. I think the touchdown is there. I was just, you can't be aggressive in that situation, because you have to come away with three points, and take your chances in overtime. Yes, you want to go for the win on the road. I understand that, but I got Drew Lock as the backup quarterback, and we should be winning this game. We should have won this game. That's what was shocking with Drake May. That I can say or look at, or, you know, factor in that maybe he wasn't completely healthy last year during the postseason. Certainly going into the Super Bowl, I didn't think he was healthy. They didn't disclose anything, leading up to the Super Bowl. But last night, with the full off season, I was just surprised. That Seattle defense is great,
but boy, you made them look like the second coming of the Legion of the boom. You could have won that game. Everything, you know, being said, you know, unfurled the banner, it's championship night, it's an unbelievable home field advantage. You got a backup quarterback there. You could have won the game on the road. And I got the feeling I even sent a note to the Danettes in our group chat. I said, man, do I think New England is going to win this game? And they should have. It was like a pitcher's duel. You're kind of trying to figure out, is anybody going to be good tonight? Jackson Smith and Chagbeth was. He's still one of those. All else fails. Where is he? I'm throwing it to him. AJ Brown got banged up with his ankle. And I don't know how serious that is, but that looked like it was a little more than just getting nicked up a little bit. Sam Darnold with the hip. Initially, I thought, oh, no, are we going to start a season
with a Achilles injury? And then I thought, is it a knee injury? And then all of a sudden, we realized that it's some kind of hip injury. But X-rays were negative. And then we'll see what the insiders have this morning if there is any update. By the way, this first hour brought you by Liberty Mutual. Let them customize your home and auto insurance. You only pay for what you need. Get a quote at Liberty Mutual.com with your local independent agent. We'll have a play of the day. Settle on a poll question here first hour. By the way, the winning touchdown was JSN. Here is Kevin Harlan being Kevin Harlan on Westwood One. 45 yard line in New England, fourth and one under center lock. Takes the hand off those at pass caught. 40 on line breaking the jackal 45 30. It's Jackson's fifth and fifth. 15, 10, 5, touchdown. Touchdown Seattle.
45 yard touchdown. He was targeted 11 times and that's smart. And look, Drew Lock is not going to air it out. It's a five yard pass and let JSN be JSN after that. Todd, would you like to reenact the Kevin Harlan call? Let's get a shot. All right, here we go. 45 yard line of New England, fourth and one under center lock. Takes the hand off those at pass caught. 40 on line breaking the jackal 35 30. It's Jackson Smith, the JIGMA. 15, 10, 5, touchdown. Touchdown Seattle. 45 yard catch and run. You sound like you're in pain. Are you pulled something there? I feel my joy in my face. Dylan, what poll question we're going to go with first hour? Well, if I were the Patriots at the end of the game, I would have still tried a risky end zone pass or done just about anything else and then kicked a field goal.
And if there's anyone who should understand that situation, it is the Patriots as they famously profit off that in the Super Bowl against the C-OX. Okay. So what's the question? Do you still, essentially, do you try and win the game? But in, I got to throw a pass where only my guy can get it. That's all. And that's just being, you know, you're conservatively trying to win the game. But it's either a touchdown or incomplete. I mean, I don't understand it. Yeah, he's pressured. Okay. But if you're pressured, you got thrown it away. Like that's inexcusable what happened. That never happens. You throw three interceptions in the fourth quarter. Yeah, Dylan. Yeah. I mean, you have whatever, a little sort of like 25 seconds left or something. You have a timeout. Run the ball one more time.
You can clock it with the timeout if anything. Maybe you break off a run score touchdown. It's not even a conversation. You, at that point, it's like you just got to do the smart play. And like you're guaranteed, yet that point you're basically guaranteed to hit a field going good over time. Let's under thrown unless the wide receiver, you know, didn't finish his route or whatever, whatever that is between quarterback and wide receiver, you just have to factor in. It's either my guy or no guy. That's it. Nothing in between. No jump ball. You know, you don't have Randy Moss or Megatron or Terrell Owens there. And your receivers haven't had a good night. Your long touchdown was a guy who didn't score a touchdown as a tight end at Notre Dame. His entire career. That was one of those where I go, wait a minute. Who is this guy? Your boy Eli Reardon. Yeah. He plus 6,000 to score a touchdown last night.
According to draft Kings, third round pick out of Notre Dame. At first, I go, wait a minute. Is that Hunter Henry scored a tie? Who wait? Who is this? Oh, yeah, I just kept waiting. And I know, you know, you can go through preseason. And most of these guys didn't play much in preseason. And then you get into actual game action. And it was going to take a while. And I kept thinking, okay, it'll be a slow burn here. Might be the same thing tonight with the Niners and the Rams. Yes, Martin. Last night, the Seahawks didn't do themselves any favors nationally because after last night's performance, they're still going to fly under the radar nationally. We're not going to pay attention to them because of last night's game. No, I think we're going to focus on the Patriots. Now, I don't have the Patriots making the playoffs. But I did think they were going to win that game last night. I thought they would win that game out, right? And from the start, I just thought, boy, this is a weird feeling I got. Yes, Paul.
And we've talked about this before. I think with the Bengals a few years ago, because the Patriots are sitting in December with nine wins. And they're just inch away from the playoffs. And they don't make it. They'll look back at this loss. Yeah. And I think that's where you don't want to overreact to week one. But you can look back at week one and say, boy, if you didn't lose that game, you would have ended up with maybe a wildcard birth. And we did do that with the Bengals a couple of years ago. And we might be doing that with the Patriots. And who knows with the Niners and the Rams and Seattle in the same division? How many wins will it take for you to win that division? All right. 8773DP show email address dpadampatric.com or Twitter handle a DP show. So Joe Thomas, Hall of Famer, you'll join us coming up a little bit. Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback, will stop by as well. You got the Niners and the Rams. The Niners are getting three and a half down under the gambling podcast yesterday.
Dylan, did you make any money last night? Well, I had the under in the game, which that was nice and easy. I did also have a tight end to Parlay with Barner and Hunter Henry to score, which not. So essentially I middleed out. Okay. Just story of my life kind of pretty much. Yeah. Keep your head up though. I'm trying. Any other poll questions for the first hour? Yeah. Paul, he sent this one over. More concern about Sam Darnold's health or Drake May's decision making after last night's. I would say Drake May's decision making. I think Sam Darnold will be okay. But, you know, to the extent of it's a hip, which that's not a normal injury for a football player, certainly for a quarterback, arm, knee, ankle, but yeah, watching that last night. And also maybe America looked at the Seahawks that without Sam Darnold, maybe he deserves a little more credit than just being the guy who was at the wheel of a race car.
You know, maybe you got the man. He's a good quarterback. Maybe you got that out of this, but Drew Locke, who was with Denver and then all of you, you don't even think about backup quarterbacks until Drew Locke is, oh, Drew Locke is their backup quarterback. You're like, I don't take inventory usually with that where you go, oh, oh, Drew Locke is going in there. And then you just kind of hold your breath. If you go, just kind of maybe get us through the first half here and maybe Sam Darnold comes back. But Seattle is a resilient team that defense is good. And that one even fully assembled last night. And I think the Patriots defense played well too. We got a factor that in as well. But Drake main inexcusable. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show weekdays at 9 a.m. Eastern 6 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the I Heart Radio app.
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Well, plan for 20 quarterbacks during my NFL career. I'm not sure I know what it's like when the starting quarterback is in there. But let me put my hat on here as an analyst and just think about it. It makes you very concerned, right? Because as a tackle, now I'm not exactly sure where that quarterback is going to be. I know where he's supposed to be, but every quarterback because of height and different body measurements is going to end up at a different spot in their drop. And some guys, especially if they're shorter, they like to be a little bit deeper. They like to scramble. They like to step up maybe a little bit more. And so having reps with a backup is really important so that I have an understanding of where he's going to be on any given past protection because I don't advise in the back of my head. What about the playbook? Is that kind of shrunk when the backup comes in? Well, I think when you got an experience back up like Drew Locke, the playbook probably doesn't shrink. And honestly, he's probably got a pretty good handle on the entire playbook as far as it's specific for that game.
Because that's why he's a backup that's lasted in the league a long time. I mean, he's a guy that is able to study and be prepared, even if he's not getting those starter reps. But if you do have a guy that maybe is a little bit more athletic and likes to run around a little bit more, then you're probably going to dial up some more of those plays where you're moving the pocket. You're getting them outside of the normal launch point behind the center. And you're giving him an opportunity to maybe threaten the defense with his athleticism, making plays that maybe aren't structured or scripted the way they were during practice. I'm trying to understand Drake May on that last interception because you know Mike Brable said throw it where our guy can get it or throw it away. Then we can kick a fuel go go into overtime. I know he's under pressure here, Joe. You just can't throw a pass that it's under throw. How does that hit my son? My son is 10. He's our quarterback on our flag team. And if he's in that situation, he knows what to do. Right. Everybody that's watching says, OK, this throws either going to our guy or no guy.
And if there's pressure, if something breaks down, if you don't see a blitz and they send an extra guy, like you just airmail it out of the back of the end zone, you kick the chip shot, feel goal. And then you go to overtime. And that play specifically like it was just a bad throw. It's not the wrong spot. You want to put it towards the sideline. Be able to give your your guy an opportunity to make a play high point the football toe tap his feet in bounds. But there's really no excuse for under throwing it and throwing it in that spot because really you throw it to your guy in the corner. He gets the right leverage he needs or it goes out of bounds and you go to overtime. Yeah. And it's hard to be critical of a quarterback who finish runner up in the empty. And went to a super bowl last year. But you know, three interceptions in the fourth quarter. I know Seattle's defense is good, Joe. But he threw two interceptions into double coverage. I'm just trying to understand be fair to him while trying to understand how could you put up that kind of performance.
Yeah, you worry because this is now the second time in a row against Seattle's defense where he struggled. He's thrown interceptions, not seen the defense properly. And I think before that in the 2025 season, he only had one multi interception game. So he's a guy that normally takes care of the football. But you wonder what something like this does to your confidence at the first game of the season when the entire NFL is watching all of the entire NFL fan base is tuned in to see the leap that Drake May is going to take. And everybody thinks maybe they got a chance to be super bowl contenders. And then you have such a meltdown in the fourth quarter, including one of the worst throws that I've seen in a long time from a decision making standpoint and an execution standpoint. You wonder how he's going to be able to bounce back because he's still a young quarterback. We love Drake May. We think he's going to be amazing in this league. But if you've got a bunch of pelts on the wall and you're 10 years into the league, you've been through a lot of adverse situations. You know how to bounce back. You have that confidence. It's unwavering. It's it's hard to knock any of that confidence down by having one bad game. But when you're a young player, you start to question things about yourself. And that's the real danger here for the New England Patriots talking to Hall of Famer Joe Thomas. You got the game coming up tonight. Niners Rams. How do you think the Niners offensive line reacted when they realized Aaron Donald wasn't going to be playing?
Well, I think a lot of them probably called their agent and said, Hey, how am I doing? Is it okay if I retire right now because I'm not sure I want to see Miles Garrett and Aaron Donald on the same field. But luckily for them, sounds like Aaron Donald will not be playing tonight to not make the trip. And they're going to be saving him a little bit more for December and January, which honestly is probably the right move. What would be the game plan if both well, what will be the game plan when both of those guys are playing? What would you be thinking and talking about with the offensive line? Well, it starts with scheme. You need to be able to move the quarterback outside the pocket because if you remember the reason Aaron Donald was such an impact player and was the greatest defensive player of his generation is because of the push that he gets in the middle. Because in offensive lineman, like you can double team a defensive tackle, but there's really not a lot of other things you can do as far as bringing running backs or tight ends or additional blockers for chips. Miles Garrett is amazing because he's still getting chips and getting to the quarterback. But when you're in the interior, they're a lot closer to the quarterback if you're just dropping back in the pocket.
And there's not a lot of things you can do other than just double teaming him. And so the way you handle an interior pressure from a guy like Aaron Donald is you roll the quarterback out. And then you just keep him guessing and you don't allow that short distance from where the defensive tackle knows guard lines up to that spot seven yards behind the quarterback that he traditionally is going to be throwing from well in the pocket. Coaches have told me that they have a philosophy a couple of coaches run towards the guy as opposed to running away. And this goes back to Alan Page, Hall of Famer for the Minnesota Vikings in the 70s. Go towards him. Don't let he's so much better with pursuit. Like it sounds counterintuitive to go. We're going to run right towards the trouble, not let the trouble catch up. Do you understand that philosophy? I do. And it's very well known in offensive line circles because it's a time thing, right? When you're running at a guy, he has less time to defeat his block and then try to make a play when you're running away from him.
If you think about his own concept where it starts one way, it takes some time and then it cuts back that guy on the backside has a lot more time to defeat his block. And when you think about a miles gared or an Aaron Donald, they're going to defeat the block. It just matters how fast. And when it has to happen quickly, especially at the front side of a run play. Like they're probably going to be double teamed. And then by the time they defeat the block, the balls already cut back or cut outside and they have less of an opportunity to run the play down from behind. Any travel issues. I know you didn't go 17 hours like the Rams and Niners, but trying to get adjusted to even going from Cleveland to London, you know, you're dealing with the six, seven hour, you know, time difference flight over there. What do you think the travel or how will it impact these teams tonight? Well, it'd be interesting to see because as we've talked about, there was a much different travel schedule for the Niners and the Rams with the Niners going out there early, getting adjusted to Australia time. And the Rams saying, ah, who cares about the body clock? We're just going to show up and play the game. And I think this is obviously a one of one sample size. So we won't really know. But with the NFL expanding internationally, I think a lot of the sports scientists are going to read a lot into how these teams play and how they feel and what they look like at the beginning of the game, how the
play. But for me personally, I'd rather get out there, get my legs under me, have an opportunity to shake out the jet leg and get on the Australia time before you play the game. Because even though they're going to probably do a great job, you know, holding team yoga sessions, I'm sure in the middle of the flight and trying to do everything they can with the moon boots, get the leg on the ground, and then you're going to be able to see so that your circulation is moving and you're not getting sore and stiff. Like that's still 17 hours in a seat on a plane. And I don't care what you do. You're going to get up from that and you're going to be a little tired, a little stiff. And for you and I, Dan, I don't know if that matters going over to watch a game, but to try to play at the highest level as a professional athlete, I think it's going to affect them especially early in that game. And then here's the other thing people aren't talking about. I'm a player and I'm already being asked about, oh, hey, was it the right decision to come over right before the game or should we have gone over early? Like that's in the back of your mind. If you go out and you play well at the beginning of the game, you forget about it. If it's sluggish and you're making some mistakes, which often happens at the beginning of the preseason, even if you're playing at one o'clock on a Sunday, like you're going to start thinking, well, maybe it was the flight. That's why we're a little
little targic or I'm tired or I'm not feeling it. And so I think there's a danger just in the hair at inherent mental side of the game, thinking that wow, they were right. We did the wrong thing and we shouldn't have come over here right before the game. I know that the Raiders are going to go with Kirk cousins, but you of course blocked for a lot of young quarterbacks, rookie quarterbacks. Is there a window of opportunity for that number one overall pick where you go, OK. Now we can put him in the lineup because most of these guys take a number one overall have started right away. Mendoza does have the opportunity to watch Kirk cousins, but how long do you watch before you put him in? Well, it kind of depends on how the offense and how the team is playing because Mendoza is going to play at some point this season. I think that's a foregone conclusion. But I think the smart thing about letting him sit, letting a veteran like Kirk cousins play at the beginning of the game is you allow yourself as a fan base and as an organization to lower the expectations.
You take a quarterback number one overall, you think this guy is saving the franchise. And if you start him in week one, that's where that bar is and that you measure everything that he does. And for most people that go and become first round draft choices in the NFL, they've never failed at anything in their life. They've won everything they've done no matter what the sport is baseball basketball football. And they've never had to deal with the adversity of like not being able to do the things that you're asked to on a football field. And especially in your own mind if you're starting in week one, you're hearing the noise about being the franchise savior and having a little bit of time in space watching the team learning some more building some confidence and then getting into the game. Maybe the midpoint of the season when they're probably not winning a whole lot, you're allowing everything to just ease up bringing those expectations down a little bit. And then there's not so much pressure on him to be great from that very first game. Yeah, the tricky part is if they're playing well, then you don't want to disrupt that. And if they're not playing well, do you want to throw away men to a lineup that's not playing well? You got a super bull pick.
I'm going to go with the Rams until I'm proven otherwise. Well, I got to play somebody. So who's going in from the AFC? That's another good question. You know, man, I'm going to say the chiefs are going to bounce back. I just believe in Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reed. And I think that they are going to play very, very well in a position where nobody believes in us. We got a chip on a shoulder. We got to prove ourselves. And so I expect those guys to be back in the Super Bowl. Great to talk to you again, Joe. Thank you. Thanks for having me on, Dan. That's Joe Thomas. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com. And within the I heart radio at search FsR to listen live. He is the Monday morning quarterback senior NFL reporter Albert Breer. Here's a strange question for you. Does the NFL have a separate game clock? Then the broadcast clock that has created so much drama in college football here with Michigan and Western Michigan.
You mean like a secret clock that might allow some results to happen? Like that. I happen. And I'm not coming from an Ohio state guy, but I don't mind twisting the knife on this one. And as far as I know, yeah, there is an official clock. I do think it's synced with the networks clocks. And obviously there's a lot done. I mean, Dan, you know, this better than me because you know, you spent all those years working on the game broadcast with NBC, right? Like I said, there's a ton of work that all the engineers and all those people do to make sure that those things sync up. And I think it does bring the bring delight again, the gambling issue here. Doesn't it? Like the public's trust in the games and that they're on the level. And this sort of thing is really important because the way that thing went down definitely weaves room for interpretation. And the thing that got my attention about it not to go off an attention here is like NBC had a better angle than the than the referee did.
Like the referee to me like with the big 10 put out that video, the players, the Western Michigan players back was blocking when the ball touched his hand. You couldn't really see when the ball actually hit his hand. And it felt to me like listening to the referees there, like there was an assumption, the other angle, which you know, maybe had a different clock. It showed the zeros and it showed the ball actually hitting the players hand. So like if you're talking about the public trust and all of that stuff, like you, if you aren't syncing them and you aren't giving the referees the same sorts of angles that the viewer has, well, then you're opening up those sorts of questions and with gambling, of course, I think it adds another layer to it. I know having the game, the travel aspect of the game tonight. How many other countries do you think the NFL has on its wish list to have regular season games played in all of them?
I say that talking cheek, but they have plans to go, I think Tokyo would be one of the next ones. So obviously this becomes a test case for Tokyo because you know, it's the other side of the world. And so the travel logistics and the challenges in Tokyo would probably be similar to Australia. They want to stay and go elsewhere in Australia. My understanding is Melbourne, Melbourne just gave them a much better deal than Sydney was willing to give them. But eventually, I can see them going to Sydney too. Italy is on the radar and I think is somewhere down the line. I'm not sure when that happens, but I think that's somewhere down the line. And beyond that, I don't know that I could pinpoint one that they have circled and say, yes, that's where we're going next. The other one that's really interesting to me is the Middle East. And I know, like for a fact, that the Middle East has made a pretty strong bid.
It countries in the Middle East have made a pretty strong bid at getting an NFL game. And there's obviously the, I say some of the moral hoops that you have to jump through the moral and ethical hoops that you've got to jump through. That the NBA obviously did and going over there. So I think the Middle East is definitely something that's at least on the radar when it comes to that region of the world wanting to host games. But a Super Bowl outside the United States is. Yeah, it would be hard because the broadcast window and they're so obsessed with getting that numbers highest possible. And you and I both know, you know, like the Super Bowl numbers driven not by people like you and me is the people who could take it or leave it. You know, and so if you're messing with the time slot, then you know, there's a chance that that drive by viewer that drives the number to whatever it is 110, 120 million decides to leave it rather than take it. Right. So that is the one thing that like I just, I don't know how much they're willing to give on that.
Right. And as it is now, so it's it's six, whatever it is 627 or whatever Eastern, I don't know, it always feels like it's a slightly different time. It's right in that window. That if you tried to play the game in London would be almost midnight, you know, in the UK. And so you to put the game in the UK, you'd have to be willing to play the Super Bowl in the middle of the afternoon as the league willing to do that. Does it, you know, mean taking a one year hit to their viewership? Those are the sorts of questions you have to answer. But logistically, I actually don't think. I mean, there's a reason there aren't teams over there. And it is logistical. But I actually think from a logistical standpoint, the Super Bowl wouldn't be that difficult to do in London. Like I think obviously the hotel rooms are there. I think the fan bases there. And for the teams themselves going over there, I don't think it would be that big of deal. I mean, it's you have a full week to acclimate. It's only a five hour difference. Was Aaron Donald ever going to be penciled in to the lineup for tonight's game? Yeah, I think they talked about it. You know, now the template for them.
And what they've been working off of Dan has been the holdouts, believe it or not. Like so Sean McVeigh and Aaron Donald talk daily, you know, over the course of the summer about where he's at and all that different stuff. And it was, you know, they came up with a detailed plan for, okay, here's how it's going to work when we get ready to ramp you up and get you out. The initial date that I actually heard that he was going to show up was August 10th. And really delaying it by a few weeks. He's just sort of seeking some clarity on like I want to make sure that I can be myself. He gets there. And now like the idea of like that holdout timeline actually kind of works out perfectly because the, I believe it came back August 30th this time. Well, you know, his first holdout in 2017, which was Sean McVeigh's first year. He was, he is he's held out and did August 31st and he did play week one that year. I believe 2018. He came back the day before the season and he sat out the first game. So they had different sorts of models that they were looking at here. And I think as much as anything else, it was about.
And it's hard, you know, it's hard to say this, but like it's like what's going to give him the best chance to be at his very best when you get to the finish line in January, February, which is really what bringing him back is all about. He's Albert Beer the Monday morning quarterback senior NFL reporter. I know you are based in New England after what happened with Drake May last night. I'm curious how this plays locally and bigger picture. Any concerns of how Drake May played in the playoffs and that's what I'm going to say. And now you open up the season with this was a new Englander yourself. You can imagine how it's being digested up here. It went from Super Bowl or bus to the sky's falling really fast. I'm actually in the sports radio station now. So it's happening a few feet away. I'm not sure if this guy isn't falling in the studio yet. Yeah, I think it's, you know, it's interesting. Because I think this is indicative again of I think, you know, when you looked at the ascension of the four guys that I think are like the premier quarterbacks and football, like Matthew Stafford's in there too.
The four guys that are sort of in that age group that are the premier quarterbacks Alan Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar, all four of those guys were like rocket chips. And I think those four guys for a lot of people into believing that like quarterback development is linear, right? And a guy's just going to go and get better and better and better. And with all those guys, you take the injuries out of it. It really has sort of been that way where they've just kept getting better as they went on. And like it doesn't always happen like that. Stafford's a good example of it, right? Like I mean, Jay Daniels, everybody was talking about, oh my God, he's going to take the the the league over. He flattened out last year and then got hurt the year before that. It was CJ Stroud, you know, so like I just think these things aren't always linear. And the interesting part about it to me at least is things got more difficult for Drake and the playoffs and you turn the ball over a bunch. And so what was that? Well, you know, they the easiest schedule on the league. And then they get the playoffs Jesse Mentor and the charge is defensive personnel.
Matt Burke and Demiko Ryan and the Texans, the defense of personnel, Vance Joseph and the Broncos defensive personnel and then Mike McDonald and the Seahawks defensive personnel. And who are they playing last night? I know they had some guys out, but these are sort of the challenges now where, you know, Drake, I think is still to some degree of big athlete playing quarterback. And he's learning to play quarterback in the NFL. And I think you saw some of that learning curve last night. Yeah, I went back and looked at the numbers and you're right. You're bringing up that he faced great defenses. But okay, you got a beat. Great defenses. If you want to be that franchise quarterback, you want to be that great quarterback. You want to get $60 million a year. You can't meet up on the dolphins and the Browns every week. I mean, you're going to have to play big. I remember that. No, no, I was just surprised at decisions that were made last night. That probably stood out. The last one was baffling. The last one was like I just I just think looking at that one and that was the hard one was I think with like love with the Jew. I think Julian loved me to great play in the ball down the middle of field.
I believe that was a third long anyway. So, you know, and so you're sort of in that position where maybe you look at that as like a short punt, you know, the play, the throw to Romeo dobs. I think he was giving his guy a chance and it didn't work out. The one that was dreadful was the last one where it was like you have the field goal. You have the game time field goal to send you into overtime in the bag. And the one thing you can't do there is turn the ball over. And he threw the ball to a spot where there were more sea hawks than Patriots. I think it was three sea hawks were close to that ball. And there wasn't there was one Patriot there. And you know, you watch him out on the edge like he's right. It didn't look like he had a great view of what was even back there. You know, so I. I just think it was like overall it was like a total miscalculation of situation by Drake May and you would hope that he's going to learn from it and get better.
And you don't want to rush back from those those can recur. And so certainly I think they're going to be careful with them. I mentioned that if I was looking at a sweet spot for the Raiders to introduce Fernando Mendoza to the starting lineup, it might be at the Jets. I think that's what eight games in maybe. I mean, this schedule is brutal for the Raiders. And I think it's there's a. That it's a taffy pole here of do you put him in if the team is playing well? Do you put him in if the team isn't playing well? Well, if they're playing well, then I leave cousins in there because he's earned that right. I guess if maybe you make a playoff push, but if they're not any good, do I then want to put a rookie into a situation with a team that's not very good. So what do you think the Raiders plans will be for Mendoza? This is an aside like look at the Cardinal schedule. Like this is a bad year to be the Cardinals are the Raiders because those are really good and those two divisions play. When is it a good year to be a Cardinal?
I'm just telling you like the Cardinals have the most murderous schedule I've ever seen for a bad team. Like it is like holy crap. Like I it's like whatever you would consider a layup and there are none when you're you know where you're where the Cardinals have been. But like those are the very end of the so take a look at that. Anyway, I think like with with with Mendoza, this is going to come down of course to his own readiness. And I think he's taking big steps when it comes to that. They're very detailed that coaching family and what they're looking for from young quarterback. So it's it's it's your eyes, it's your footwork. It's like how you how you read things out. So like he's made great progress in that area. I think they probably he probably individually be getting close to a point where they feel comfortable putting them in a game. The flip side of that is all right, like this the situation around him is the situation around him good enough to support him. Where not only is he going to be able to play at a high level, but like maintain his confidence and and and get all the things that he's been taught to stick.
Because like where you are aggressive when you start getting knocked around. And so I think a huge part of this decision for. You know for for Clint Kubiak for Andrew Genoco, their offensive coordinator for John Spytech, their general manager is going to come down to the readiness to support him. And that's the other 10 guys in the huddle. And obviously they're not off to a great start with that with Brock Bauer. It was already hurt. Nashton Chanty, having gotten back paying up and training camp. Great stuff is always have fun this weekend. Albert, thank you. All right, thanks thanks. Thanks to appreciate it. That's Albert Breer. This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.
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