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0:00This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I choose option B. I'm Julie Pinero and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Listen to Solita on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I survived nine months in captivity and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the survivor files. Every week I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. Abducted, stalked, controlled and nearly silenced.

1:00These are stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the survivor files with Elizabeth Smart on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're a bookshelf and you're a for you page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. Pro Society is a weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse. Each week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet and pop culture. With your favorite writers, book talk creators and plenty of over thought opinions. Yeah, I'm so, so, so. Listen to pro society on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Why are you dealing with listening to harm, strong and getting on demand? We're not boring. Lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing and makes you angry. You don't want to live your life like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty. We're Armstrong and Getty. We try to bring you the truth and help you figure out this crazy modern world. About something about a comedic tone.

2:00What? We have a winner? Yes. Listen to Armstrong and Getty on demand on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Mike Am. And I'm Trevor Sikama and together we host the NFL Fantasy Football Show. Are you ready to dominate your fantasy league this season? Because if you aren't locked in with us on the NFL Fantasy Football Show, you're already playing from behind. Whether you're a first-time player or a grizzled vet chasing another championship, would you be the advantage and the confidence you need to make every move count? Listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Show on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You are listening to the Dan Patrick's Show on Fox Sports Radio. The head coach at Michigan, Kyle Wittingham still sounds strange to say that coach after all those years at Utah. Do you have any Utah gear left over? There's probably something back in Utah somewhere in my house back there. But I would take me a minute to locate it.

3:02All right. So how prepared are you for this moment? Well, as shoot as prepared as we could possibly be, I mean, we got three more days of practice. We certainly need every one of them. But we've had a really good fall camp, made a ton of progress. And eager to play somebody else. We've been beating ourselves for eight months now. And so it's going to be good to find out what we got on Saturday. But the expectation level, now, Utah wanted you to win. Michigan wants you to win. Do you feel any different with the expectations from the fans of what they're hoping for? No, I don't believe so. In both places, you're hoping for conference championships and then whatever you can accomplish beyond that. But I've said it before, it doesn't matter what level of your coach in that high school, college, NFL, wherever you are, you're all in. And if you're all in and you've given it everything you got, then you have the same burning desire to win as anybody else.

4:04Why did you feel the need to clarify your comments about Ohio State? Why didn't feel the need to clarify? They were asked about it. People asked about it. And I just answer questions. It's what I do. OK, so from the first comments to the second, like people want, when I hear you say, you hate Ohio State, right? I guess that's what they want. I don't know. I want to beat him as bad as anybody. We're probably worse. And that's about this. I guess we can hate him on one day a year. How about that? Yeah, but you know, I said, and I grew up in Ohio, I said, give him a break. Like, you know, you can know about this rivalry. It'd be like if somebody went and said, oh, you're at Utah, you got to hate me. Why you and you just came there. You're like, all right, let me live this first a little bit here. So I don't know about a tutorial on how to strongly dislike a team. Yeah, to me, it's got to happen organically.

5:04And it's tough to manufacture that. And so, but just the competitive nature of the game, I mean, it's the rivalry game in the premier rivalry game in the country. And that's, everybody knows that. I'm fully aware of that. And by no means, I'm trying to downplay the game of the game is huge. I mean, it's a huge game year in and year out. All you got to do is win. You can hate them. And if you don't beat them, nobody's going to give you credit for, well, at least you hate them, coach. Exactly. Good point. Yeah. Help me understand where you stood with NFL players coming back to college. I know that, you know, all the conferences are kind of in sync on this. But did you ever think we'd get to a situation like this where somebody leaves college, goes to the pros, puts on a uniform or two and then comes back? Did not foresee that at all. And that's something that, but, but any, you know, in this day and age, anything that happens to cause football shit and comes to surprise me. We're so all over the place with everything that, that, I guess, anything's possible.

6:09Okay. How did we get here with just no, there's no singular voice. There's no lifeguard on duty in the deep end here, coach. Right. Exactly. And that's, that's the problem. You know, look at the NFL, which is, in my opinion, the best run sports organization in the world. And you've got a, you know, a great structure and a commissioner that lays down the law. And if you cross that line, you've faced severe penalties. And I think that's what we got to get to in college football. We've got to get to some sort of NFL minor league model. I've said that many, many times. Yeah. But why wouldn't you pattern yourself after the best to ever do it? Why would he have Michigan head football coach, beginning the season this Saturday, Western Michigan, next Saturday, you welcome in Oklahoma to Ann Arbor. There was a story in the Salt Lake Tribune a couple of days ago. Some former players accused you and your staff of mishandling injuries. I'd want to give you a chance to address this.

7:11Never in my career have I ever tried to sway influence whatever the word is, our medical staff, wherever I've been. We listen to the medical staff. If they say players available, we go with that. And if they say he's not available, we go with that. And so I'm not sure where this came from or what the, you know, what the, you know, just how I've ever materialized. But never in my career have we ever crossed the line of trying to override a medical decision by our medical staff. Could you have stated you taught if you wanted to? I believe that's probably what have been in the cards. I think I think if it really pushed came to shove and you know, I had two years left on my contract and, but, you know, I've always been the type of guy. You don't wear out your welcome. And I felt like that that was starting to happen and, and you know, overstaying your, you're welcome with something that I had made a, you know, a conscious decision not to

8:13do several years ago when I, you know, and you just don't want to stay so close. I've been somewhere too long. Maybe I did stay too long as it was. I don't know, but, but I'm grateful for the situation I'm in now and couldn't be, you know, happier with what's going on here. Michigan felt like mutual, mutual parting. Is that fair to say? It's probably on some people's part back there. Yeah, I'd say, I'd say, you know, depending who you talk to, how good, do you know how good your team can be right now? That's a good question. I don't know if anyone in the country knows how good their team can be because you've been, you know, he'd be playing against each other. And if you struggle moving the balls because you're lousy on offense or it's because your defense is outstanding and vice versa. And so you never really get a good gauge completely until you line up and play somebody, but you can certainly see talent and positions that really are, you know, special. And so I think you got to, you got some of an idea, but you don't know for sure until you line up and get to get someone to play against and get a barometer to measure yourself

9:16against. What's the coolest thing in your office? Cool thing in my office. Probably pictures of my grandkids. They're around here somewhere, but somebody gave me this. Oh, I can't show it to you. There's a really cool, I am that lights up that's got like lightning bolts throughout it and really cool. It's pretty good size and you can change the colors and all that stuff. Anything mean you want to ask cool stuff is you know, I do have some great stuff in here. I think the one, do I have a Michigan helmet in here? I got all kinds of helmets in here. Do I, we don't have one? I don't think I have it. Let's get you one. We'll get you one. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on, just want to let you go. Coach, we'll just keep each other company. Yeah, okay. Yes. There you go. Dan, there you go. Yep. I don't have an Ohio State helmet in here. Oh, that's good news. That's it. Yeah. I like the ear that. And I think this came from who was the wide receiver who played for the Giants who

10:21played Bonnie Tumor? Yes. I think a Monty Tumor gave me his helmet here, Coach. I think it's a keeper. Yeah, it's autographed here. That's the old school bike helmet. Yeah. Yeah. And then you got the stickers here. Uh-huh. Yeah. We still have that tradition. What do the stickers mean if I? All different things. You know, somehow the area code of the player or he's from big wins, big plays in games. I mean, it's got all kinds of different things on those stickers. What if I go to class? Do I get a sticker? Like little things like that? That used to matter back in our day. Well, it's still matters. Okay. That matters to me anyways. And you know, graduating players is number one on the list. Learning games is number two and that's how it always functioned. Do you want to say anything mean about Ryan Day before we say goodbye? Say anything mean? No. We'll see him. We'll see him last game of the season about that. Wow. That's Bulletin Board material right there. Don't bait me. Yeah.

11:22Good to talk to you. Good luck this weekend. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Kyle. I'll waiting now. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick Show. Weekdays at 9 a.m. Eastern 6 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the I Heart Radio app. Hey, it's Kovino and Rift from Fox Sports Radio. Now in addition to hearing us live weekdays for five to seven PM Eastern to four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, we're excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel for the show. Yup. That's right. You can now watch Kovino Enriched Live on YouTube every day. All you got to do, search Kovino Enrich FSR on YouTube. Again, go to YouTube, search Kovino Enrich FSR. Check us out on YouTube, subscribe, hit that thumbs up icon, and comment away. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and health captive for nine months. I survived and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the survivor files.

12:24I just remember this low taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything. Every week, I'm with survivors who lived through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. Their story is about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the survivor files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I choose option B. I'm Julie Piñero and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without

13:27asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smile good as not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're bookshelf and you're for you page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Pro's Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the

14:31conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. I'm become a Master's doctor when working as a specialist in marketing knowledge. For example, a trembler who appears to have mastered the book. I love how these line traits look like, and where are you from? I'm the psychiatrist. So if you're not an insider to start your research and how Do you know about it now, then you would think they might see you and have a little high chance to become a Mohammed podcasts. See you between the pages. Our town is small taters by most standards, right? But to the people who grew up here, it's everything. What happens when a quiet Tennessee town becomes the front line in a battle over the future of America? Developers with right wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land in the area. The first thing you see when it pops up is high nears and apple at you, but they weren't just planning houses.

15:32We need cities on a shining hill that exemplify and embody the Christian way of life. Stop right there. Is that normal? A podcast about what happens when a small town becomes the site of a social experiment. God need men to rule. And decides to fight back. Do not use my hard work to sell your bull. They're not just opposing what's being planned for here. Our hometown is not a test to. They feel like they're standing in opposition to an entire administration. Guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you? Listen to our town on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. That call was really pivotal for me. Hey, it's Emily Tish Sussman and this season on She Pivots, the podcast where women share bold career moves and personal turning points that changed everything. I sit down with culture shifting women who share their pivots like Para Olympian Alley Truett. I was like, I'm on out from a shark attack.

16:33There's no way in 11 months I'm making the very long. Advocate Elizabeth smart. I still feel that drive that I can still make a difference. So I'm going to keep going celebrity chef Carla Hall was that scary to walk away from such a stable career after just two years? No, I was more afraid of being unhappy than I was broke and in a dead and job that I didn't enjoy. And feminist legend, Gloria Steinem. All of us were trying to express women's real lives. We need a meeting place of our own. And if I can contribute to that, I'd like to maintain that and leave this house for that purpose. Listen to She Pivots on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. He's Kyle Long CBS Sports NFL today studio analyst. Big tough guy here. Good to see you again. How would you have done against your dad? If you had to block your dad in his prime. Oh boy, I would have brought help. That's the good thing about playing offensive line. I would have taken my licks though.

17:34He's he was pretty violent with his hands. You got to be aware of the get off. You got to be aware of the one, two club rip inside. I would imagine is on the menu. And then that Reggie White pattern did home move is probably the main course. When did you? I guess realize you could take your dad. Like you if you're wrestling, they're having so I'm still waiting. Man, I'm still waiting. You know, it's funny. There's that inverse relationship of the ability to whip your dad's ass and then your willingness or what to whip is it's like as you get older, you could. But it's just like why would I do that? Look at he's making. He's making a blueberry shake for my my my daughter. Like, you know, why would I want to get him now? Yeah, but I don't know. It's like you play one on one with your dad playing basketball. I think he was aware probably when I was 16, that I could do some things physically that might have put him in jeopardy at the time. No, I don't I couldn't do the math on how old he was, but you know, probably around

18:3516, 17. So I started to realize and molded brother Chris started to keep his distance. Probably all that the fights though. I mean, your mom had to go, I got to replace that end table or that chair, that couch. Yes, she was dealing with riot control, crowd control far before it became invoked in American society. All right, let me give you the full introduction. First round pick, 20th overall pick by the bears joining us on behalf of generation fine.com. We'll talk about that because I love what you're doing with this at this point in the preseason. Do you know what kind of team you had going into week one when you were playing? I think that the good things about your roster are always, you have a higher expectation for and the bad things you say, this is going to be our kill is it's going to kill us. And then you end up somewhere in the middle. I mean, it always ends up being a one score game, Dan.

19:38It always, it's like, can you get the third and one conversion? That's really what it comes down to. And I think, you know, if I look at the bears, for example, people are really keen on the bears offense and Ben Johnson says he's going to set an NFL record for points per game. And that's all well and good. But he knows that has to be the case because they've got injuries on the back end. They've got question marks up front. They've got guys getting paid a lot of money that haven't produced the way that they expect. And bear fans are hoping that this thing lands somewhere in the middle. Yeah. And trying to handicap the NFC North now, no green Bay has got some issues. Certainly, Josh Jacobs out. Michael Parsons not back for a little while. Yeah. The Vikings defense is going to keep them in games. It feels like, and then you got the lions that we kind of forgot about. So if you were going to go one through four, if I were to go one through four, I would say the two teams holding hands at the top of the totem pole is the Packers and the Bears. And I think the lions are right there with a hand on one of their ankles.

20:40And who the hell knows who the Vikings are going to be? To your point, that defense can carry a football team. Kevin O'Connell is a brilliant coach. And if Kyler Murray can be Kyler Murray, there's a lot of people who are going to be in trouble. There's a lot of people in Vegas who are either going to look like brilliant or idiots. In fact, I think that if Kyler Murray can figure out how to press the circle button, which is Justin Jefferson on his Xbox controller, he's got to find great success in that division. And it's going to be close games and who can guard who in a two minute? Really that's who it comes down to. I've asked former offensive lineman, even current ones, blocking for a scramble, blocking for a passing quarterback. What would you have preferred? Well, it really does depend. So like if I got a guy like, let's say I'm blocking for Patrick Mahomes, you understand what the play is drawn up to be.

21:41And you understand where the launch point is, where he's going to throw it from and what the action is leading up to it, what we're trying to influence the defense to do. What you can account for is the great things that are going to happen after that three second timer goes off when Patrick goes Picasso on the defense. There are luxuries to having guys like that because they can get out of harm's way on their own. Now, the ask becomes greater for an offensive lineman because your clock goes from four seconds to maybe eight seconds. If you're running around there behind the line of scrimmage, you get a guy who's a pocket passer, your job becomes very easy. If I if I blocked for Matt Ryan, easy in terms of predictability, Dan, none of it's easy. But the balls out, the ball is out. Go watch the mic dust of these defensive linemen rushing against these statuesque pocket passers where the balls out. They are frustrated beyond belief because there is no move that they can do. The wins. How would you test Aaron Donald now coming back after a couple of years?

22:45Well, I would lean heavily on double teaming in the run game and reminding him of what kind of game he's stepping back into. And I'm not saying in any way that Aaron is not going to come back and dominate. But if I'm an OC, I'm going to put four hands on him to helmets and a couple thigh boards. And we're going to run the football with that game plan. And then when we have to throw the football, you continue to give him that action. You do not let him take the fight to the offensive line. He is as dominant in a passing situation as there's ever been. What did it feel like trying to block him? Well, luckily in the one year that we played the Rams, I played tackle. It felt like blocking a fire hydrant quite honestly. So I was coming down on the double team, trying to find a spot in his hip area while my guard was praying and trying to get hands on him.

23:46And this was young Aaron Donald. And I do remember he gave us fits. And this was before he was AD 99, but I knew I had inside intel from that Rams locker room, my brother, that they had drafted a future hallfamer like his first week in camp. Chris was like, this guy is unbelievable. So when I was playing him, he was finding his way through the cracks. He was unbelievable at finding he was like water. He could get in between anything. And he would look at you after the play. He looked at me one time and he said, every time you looked out at me, pre snap, I know it's a double team. And I was like, you're not supposed to help me, bro. You're 20 years old and you're 5'11. Go back to the little that I know. How did he fall where he fell to? I think for whatever reason, we were at the end of the stage of the phase where size mattered, right? Like you have to fit a certain archetype. And Aaron Donald is an outlier, but it also opens the door for plenty of guys who were 5'11

24:51to 50 to go terrorize guards on third down. It's like the picture who threw all this Chapman, you know, there was a, there was a place for him. He would come in and he would throw 103 and guys would know what to do with it. It's the same impact that one of these rush tackles can have on a guard. And I think about a guy like Willie Lampkin, who was a center out of the University of North Carolina. He's 5'10, deep, 5'10, 290 pounds, but he is all as kick and grit. Okay. And he's on the Eagles roster and he has been choking these giants out all summer long. He's a prime example of like you let a guy like that in the club. Now you got to let all the 5'11 games in the club. Okay. Do you miss hitting people? I miss high five in my teammates. You know, like I just miss being around the guys. This version of me does not hit like miss hitting people.

25:54I loved it when I was that age because I was good at it. But now the things that I miss is, you know, sit next to the math forte and eat pancakes and get in Lafta for 10 minutes and go into the training room and, you know, John Fox coming in and telling us a ridiculous story about his boating adventure that weekend or, you know, hanging out with the equipment guys and just hearing about the debauchery that happens in a 19 year old's life in Chicago. Tell me what you're doing with the generation fine. Generation fine. Okay. So this is a fantastic thing and like size matters going out the window. I think mental health matter is coming into the house now because fine doesn't have to be a finish line. So many times you get asked how you're doing. You sound good. I'm fine. Finds not the finish line. We can be way better than that. And there's ways to get there. Okay. There's tools, resources, information. You can visit visit generation dash fine.com. And you can find out why I'm partner with Johnson and Johnson and why this is so important to me because for so long, I thought that the things that I was feeling and for a lack of a better term depression at times would creep into my life as an athlete.

27:04As a man, as a father, as a husband. And I didn't know what to do with the way that I was feeling. There are resources, tools you're not alone. There's so many more guys that you know that are dealing with something silently. I call it the silent battle. And, you know, we're here. We're waiting. It's like, you know, it's like that angel in the movies, you know, where you see them in a couple scenes, you know, like I've seen that person go. And then they show up at the end. They say the day what's like, if you just stop and talk to that person when you saw him the first time and that person is that conversation about mental health. And there's more people there to share your experience and their experience with you. Why do players, did players feel the need to hide this? Well, I think I have a unique perspective on this growing up in a football house and a football, a gladiatorial football house, you know, one that was football proper. Okay. Like six weeks training camp to a day's full pad type shit. Excuse my language.

28:04And I understood that what you show is what they know and what they know could get you killed. And I'm in the camp now of why not work on your mental health like you work on your front squat like you work on your hamstring stretches like you work on your cardio. It's a it can be a weapon for you in the best way possible. It's a light inside of you and you can make it brighter if you work on it. If you recognize what you're going through. Yeah, I went through a dark period. I had an autoimmune that was affecting me and didn't want to get out of bed and I my wife said, why don't you share this on your show? Because if you share it, then maybe it, you know, like goes on with somebody like he's he's willing to talk about that. And it was painful to to reveal that that you go into that shell where you just don't want to do anything. And so I mean, it took a long time for me to get through it, but I can certainly empathize with, you know, NFL players, you're in your 30s or 40s.

29:13And we've seen what happens with not only depression, but everything else with CTE and I mean, there's a there's a whole melting pot here of stuff that you, you don't even know what's on the horizon. So I do appreciate you sharing this because I do think it's really important that we do talk about this instead of because you know what when I was growing up, Kyle, it was, oh, he's got mental illness. Like if you had depression, there was something mentally wrong with you. Yeah, therefore you never said anything to anybody. Yeah, and it's really a brave of you and I appreciate you speaking up on that. And is this not just the damn best thing? What a microcosm of what generation fine is all about? It's like reach out. There's a network of people that are, you know, whatever words you want to put in there. And I really relate with you couldn't get out of bed. And I've been there before when I dealt with injury and when I dealt with the stress and rigors of playing the national football league.

30:14There have been moments where I have been literally stuck in place and I need somebody to come physically remove me and I know there's others out there. And dude, if that's you listening on the other end and you feel in any way like, like making your life better, take a visit to generation dash find calm. Good luck this season with the football with CBS big, big promotion air moving up the ladder. Yeah, having fun. We got him fooled another year. My best year father and thanks again, Kyle. Yeah, thanks a lot. See you guys soon. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com. And within the IHARDS Radio app search FSR to listen live. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and health captive for nine months. I survived and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the survivor files.

31:17Just remember this low taunting voice next to my ear saying shut up. Don't say anything. Every week I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up without a doubt he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. Their stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the survivor files with the Elizabeth Smart on the IHARDS Radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts on the new podcast solita. We share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I choose option B. I'm Julie Pinierro and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first.

32:22I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone I kept meaning people and they were like, you smiled at us not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip. I hope you listen to solita on the IHARDS Radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your for you page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is pros society, the weekly podcasts that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture, obsessives and anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet and the conversations everyone can't stop having.

33:27I'm going to have to look up this story. It says so. From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. So like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters and that is the Trojan horse, whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to pro society on the IHARDS Radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. Our town is small taters by most standards, right? But to the people who grew up here, it's everything. What happens when a quiet Tennessee town becomes the front line in a battle over the future of America? Developers with right wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land in the area. The first thing you see when it pops up is high nears and apple etch. But they weren't just planning houses. We need cities on a shining hill that exemplify and embody the Christian way of life.

34:31Stop right there. Is that normal? A podcast about what happens when a small town becomes the site of a social experiment. Got to need mental rule and decides to fight back. Do not use my hard work to sell your bull. They're not just opposing what's being planned for here. Our hometown is not a test to they feel like they're standing in opposition to an entire administration. Guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now. Did you? Listen to our town on the IHARDS Radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. That call was really pivotal for me. Hey, it's Emily Tish Sussman and this season on She Pivots the podcast where women share bold career moves and personal turning points that changed everything. I sit down with culture shifting women who share their pivots like Para Olympian Ali Truett. I was like, I'm a month out from a shark attack. There's no way in 11 months I'm making the very long text advocate Elizabeth Smart. I still feel that drive that I can still make a difference.

35:33So I'm going to keep going celebrity chef Carla Hall was that scary to walk away from such a stable career after just two years? No, I was more afraid of being unhappy than I was broke. And in a dead and job that I didn't enjoy and feminist legend, Gloria Steinem. All of us were trying to express women's real lives. We need a meeting place of our own. If I can contribute to that, I'd like to maintain that and leave this house for that purpose. Listen to She Pivots on the IHARDS Radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I like the clash. I'm just I thought the Ramones were kind of a novelty band. That's all doesn't make me a bad guy because I don't you know like punk rock. The Beatles created punk rock with Helders Skelter. Go back and listen to that. Tell me about punk rock. Knucklehead. I'll give the clash more credit for the punk rock department than the Beatles. The Beatles held created.

36:34Go back and listen to Helter Skelter. Sure. I understand we were saying like and they did that in the 60s. Oh my God. What Marvin? Sorry, DP Chad GP T say in 2009, you two reinforce their status as the biggest rock band in the world through their long to their massive YouTube 360 tour. Thank you. Was that before after they downloaded that terrible. I don't see clean Hall of Famer Netflix lead game analyst. I don't know if you want any part of this. We're fired up here, Luke. I'm ready to play a game. Getting kind of feisty in here. Do you miss hitting people? I miss I miss being a locker room. I don't miss hitting people. I think I think being on the game on the field before games past W's. She guys run by and you decide you don't want anything to do with with those guys. They're running back the offensive lineman. Even the receivers feel like they've gotten bigger and bigger. I tell people if you want to see a football game. If you can watch it from the sidelines, you'll have a whole different appreciation for what that game sounds like and how fast it is.

37:40I don't know if you had that feeling. You're welcome to the NFL moment. What was that like? Well, you know what's interesting. You talk about watching it from the field. You don't ever listen to the game or hear the game or feel the game when you're playing. But during 2020, that was my first year when I was done playing. I worked with the Panthers in the front offices and I was on the field for some of those games and there was no one in the stands to start the year. So you could hear everything. Every hit, every sound, every time a guy puts his foot in the ground and makes a cut. And you start to realize like, how did I? How did I play out here during this game for that long? Because guys are it's it's fast. It's physical. And I'm glad that that I was on the sideline at that point. Do you have that welcome to the NFL moment? Yeah, there was it was Michael Robinson. So my my rookie year, we played Seattle at home. It was my first game plan at inside backer and Russell Wilson escapes from the pocket.

38:42I'm in zone coverage. I drop. He starts running towards the line of scrimmage and I feel like I have a clean shot. I've got a great angle. I'm running right at him. I think I'm going to make a big hit. And at the last second, he cuts to my left. I turned my head in my Robinson number 26 is running full speed at me. And Russ Russ had kind of set me up. I didn't see my Robinson. He smacked me and the the first thing I remember is being on the ground. And I remember looking up at him and he had a big smile on his face. And it was it was early on. I was probably I think that was probably week three or week four. And you realize the game happens a lot faster than it used to in college. And when I see Mike Mike to this day, there's still that little smirk that he got on stage. He knows he knows that he got me pretty day on good. If you didn't go to BC, where were you going? You know what Stanford Stanford Duke in Virginia where the school was in addition to Boston College that I that I looked really hard at Stanford was probably you know right up there.

39:46That was that was Harbaugh and Andrew Luck and that whole crew. And then coach cutcliffe at Duke. I really I really liked him. He was a he was a great man. A great football coach. But BC was always was always home for me. But I think Stanford with Harbaugh and Duke with cutcliffe for two places. That would have been good options for me. But growing up, you know, in Cincinnati Ohio State recruit you? Not really. You know, I was when I was being recruited. I was I was small. I was skinny. I went very big. And quite frankly, if I was recruiting people out of Cincinnati, I probably would have recruited me. If I was Ohio State either so really. Now I was a little I was a 200 pound linebacker that that was taken biology class and chemistry class. I heard a lunch box around. Really. I don't really blame anybody for not recruiting me. Wait, you had a lunch box? Oh, yeah. Every day.

40:47Was was it a themed lunch box? It was you know what? I was fortunate that when I went to school, I have two brothers and my mom would wake up and make breakfast and make lunch lunches for us every day. And it was a very well balanced lunch box. She did a great job. So yes, I don't know if the lunch box itself was themed, but what was inside of it was very much themed. All right. So Luke and Netflix game day kicks off with the game down under in Melbourne. It'll be shouldn't you be leaving for Australia now? Yeah, we're we're leaving. She we leave we leave us on Sunday. So it's I've been trying to wrap my head around it. We leave on a Sunday and I think we get there on a Tuesday because they're they're ahead of us. Plus the time change in the flight. It took me a second to kind of wrap my head around how all that works. Yeah, we're leaving soon. We leave on winter on Sunday of this week. Okay. So that'll be coverage starting at 630 Eastern kickoff at 830 Eastern next week.

41:51Are you expecting Aaron Donald? To be in Australia? That was certainly make it more exciting. Honestly, I I think it would be really cool if he played. I think what I would I think about with this whole thing is you know, running's great. Ageology is great. You watch all the videos of him and him training. He looks phenomenal. I think the one question that I ask myself is what happens when people start leaning on you? I think that's probably the biggest thing. If I were to go back and play after not playing for two years, how were you able to brace for impact? How are you able to mimic contact to the to the speed at which it's going to happen in the game? So I think for the game's sake, I would love for him to play. I think it adds a tremendous amount of story lines and him and Miles Garrett and how the rest of that defiance line benefits from him being in the game. But I think if you're the Rams, you got to figure out what's the best long term approach for having him part of that team. You know, when they make a push in December, January, how does Aaron Donald impact the linebackers on the Rams with him back?

42:56All right. Good luck getting up to him. You know, I think if you're Nate Landman and that that crew right there, you're running clean to the football. It's in it. Let's be honest. It's Aaron Donald. It's it's Miles Garrett, Kobe Turner. And then the one guy that that's going to benefit the most from this is Byron Young. You got to block those big and breaking fists. You got to block those those big guys up front before you get to the second level. So if you're those Rams linebackers, you're just sitting there smiling knowing that hey, they got to block these monsters before they get up to us. You sack Stafford before? I didn't even get nearer. Nope. Not anywhere close to him. My my patch brushing skills are very, very minimal. How many sacks did you have in your career? Man, I think I think I had 12 and two or three or four of them were cleaned at the football. So that requires zero cash rushability. I do. Who did you get that you go?

43:57I can tell my grandkids. Man, well, in the Super Bowl, Sean McDermott called a great, a great blitz and I got paid manning and that required again zero, zero skill. The biggest thing you have to do is you make sure you get them on the ground. It was I was clean right up the middle to paid manning and the hardest thing is to not miss them. So that's my that'd be my most memorable quote by sack. You know, we look at those teams that lose the Super Bowl and we used to label like you were a disappointment. Like the Buffalo Bills went to four consecutive Super Bowls. I said, why are we celebrating that you got to the Super Bowl? I know you guys got embarrassed, but what's it like in that game that everybody's watching you and everybody's going to have some kind of opinion about you or your team after something like that? I think I think everybody's going to have a opinion regardless if win lose draw, how the season went, but you know, you I don't think that that season, when you look back on it and you get perspective and the further away, you know,

45:05that team gets from that game. I think we realize how special that year was how fun the OTAs were the offseason training camp. The journey through that season into the playoffs, two playoffs games at home, the energy in the city in the carolina's and had the opportunity to play in a Super Bowl. I think was was super special. Obviously you want to win that game and that's the ultimate goal playing football. But I think the memories and the opportunities we had that season in the players that we put on that team that the front office did a great job is what made that season. Special, I don't think it's defined by one game or you know, the disappointment of not winning the Super Bowl. I think for us, it was more how special that team was how fun that team was how special that group was together. And I think when you look back on it, that's that's the positive that really came from it. You think Cam Newton will be a hall of famer. I think he should be just and I got to see it on a on a daily basis, but I don't think for that stretch there that cam had.

46:14I don't think there was a more dominant player. When you walked out on the field and Cam, and I think, you know, his ability to affect the game throwing and obviously running the ball short yardage goal line. And walking out for coin tosses for teams that we didn't play a whole lot and watching those guys walk out and look at Cam. It's like it's like they had no idea he was that big and it looked like he got ten times bigger when he when is in when is in his uniform because he had the rib pads and the shin pads in the hair and the wrist bands and he just got bigger and bigger as as game day approached. Because that following year, didn't you open up with Denver in Denver? Yeah, yeah. And I remember the Broncos beat the hell out of Cam in that game. Like they were they were lining him up and pounding him. And I just kept remember being on the field and seeing how big he was and realizing what these defensive players were doing to him.

47:21That is they they pounded him that night and you know kept it back up, but you know after a while those hits take their toll. Yeah, he's he's always joke that he was made of concrete that he was like a pillar out there you just hit him and hit him and he just keeps he keeps getting back up. But I think it's a testament to number one, his toughness and number two is competitive drive and who he is as a person and a lot of stuff that Cam did. We kind of big on just can be in Cam and then when you think about it, you start to realize how special what he did for that team was calling a game now. It's one thing to watch when you're at home with your buddies, but you know you're going to be there with Noah Eagle. You got to get in and get out. Get in get out like you have a finite amount of time that you go. I got 15 seconds here or I got 12 seconds here.

48:24How do you work mentally of being an analyst? Well, I think you start to just understand that hey, I have a job and I have a team. It knows knows your teammate and you start to realize that I have to do my job in a way that allows no to do his job. So I think quick in and out concise gets your point across, make it digestible and understandable and then and then get out and allow Noah to do his job as well. He's he's phenomenal. He's so easy to work with. He sets you up great and then it's my job like you said to get in get my point across, get my point articulated and then allow no to set the play up. And do what he does best as well. So I think that's what makes it fun is a teamwork aspect of that booth. Okay. But is this any different than what you did defensively where get in get out of the huddle or make your call. Then there's the play now regroup get in get out get ready for the next play. I think to a sent to in a sense. Yes. The procedure I think is a little bit different because in the game I think you're digesting.

49:35I get a play call in my ear and then I've got to relay it to the guys in the field and then I like you said I got to break the huddle and turn around and I in digest. What's going on? So you're kind of thinking all the way up to the snap as far as as a player versus I think in the booth. It's more of reactionary and then hey, based on what happened on the field. What can I give the viewers to help educate them, give them further contacts versus while you're playing. It's like, all right, hey, what do I like? What do I like out of our menu on third and sixth? What do I what did I watch during practice and during tape that allows me to have success? Maybe what do I need to tell the guy next to me? Maybe Thomas is telling me something different. So I think it's more of a living organism while you're while you're playing because there's a lot of other guys that you're working with versus in the booth. I think it's, you know, it's one of my first times doing is some so trying to figure it out a little bit as well, but it's more of what I saw.

50:36Let me give somebody something quick that they can chew on, get in and get out and then let Noah do his job as well. Yeah, wait till like three years, two years and you listen back to this and then you'll go, oh my gosh, because we all do it. I went back to my like my early sports center days. I'm going, oh my God, so bad. But you know, it's part of the evolution, the progress, the process of it. So and you got a great person to set you up. The key is with play by play, they can make or break you and you got Noah who learned from his dad. He's going to put you in a position to succeed and you know that that'll help you instead of you scrambling to go out. I got nine seconds here. I can't say anything. Noah will be very good at being brief with his comments to give you, you know, that room for opportunity. And so it'll it'll be fun for you. At least I hope it will be and don't read social media. Okay. Stay off. I told JJ what that I said, dude, don't, don't be on.

51:38He goes, no, why not? I go, okay, because I can take it. I said, all right, well, you're tougher than I can. I don't want to know what social media is going to say. They're never happy about anything, Luke. Yeah, I think, you know, you kind of learned as a player. You can always find whatever you want on social media. If you think you're the greatest thing, you can find somebody that says you're the greatest thing. If you want to find somebody that says you stink, if you look hard enough, you can find that too. So it's one of those things, whatever you want, yeah, social media to say you can find it and filter it and figure it out. So like you said, I think I'm lucky to have Noah in there because he's so good. And he has fun. He's got a great personality and he's quick and I'm certainly looking forward to everything. He's made a lot of fun. Good to talk to you again. Congratulations on the Hall of Fame, Luke. Thank you. Appreciate it. Luke Keekley Hall of Famer. I survived nine months in captivity and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them.

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