Say Less Bestie: Wednesday, March 4th, 2026

0:00Good morning, girlies. It's the Tollos. It's Jackson Claude and where your hoes. It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy. Is it Wednesday? I know I felt a little something for my sister. It's hump day. Don't forget to hump 21. Speaking of somebody I love, I'm joined today by kind of an iconic queen. Where does it look back, bun? It's Wednesday, so if you're following my trajectory of hair styles throughout the week, which is, you know, a very predictable journey. It's a bun day. This is as my hair fades into oiliness. It's funny. I also have like a weekly hair schedule because I start, I usually wash my hair on Sunday and it starts strong Monday. I started, I try to make it like as far

1:00into the week as I can before I have to wash it again. And so on day one, like I always look like I'm wearing a wig. Like when I have fresh, like blown out dicing air up hair, it's giving shade all. Like it's giving religious woman wearing a wig. And as the day's progressed, like I look more and more like I'm just wearing my own hair. Oh, that's beautiful. Day one is always very exciting for me. And right now, as I'm experiencing a change of hair, and I'm using like a lot of serums and oils. My window of hair washing ratio is smaller than usual. I usually can go like from Sunday to Friday. You have night sweats. Not to brag. Do I have night sweats? Not at the moment? No. Okay. Like when I was breastfeeding, like they never went away. So I would wake up every day, like drenched. Oh no. No, no, no. I'm okay. I'm not frying. But more so like I'm using like, you know, divvy and oil to help grow my hair. So like, I don't have as much life per wash per say. No, do I look different to you? And anyway, like maybe a little couple things, couple things. You're wearing a new sweater that I really love. And I like it to be mine. It's so me. Oh my God. Okay.

2:03What it was? No. It comes with notching pants, but it was like a little too hot to wear the pants. And yeah, I bought it at J. Crew. I'm kind of like in actually, sorry, I bought it at J. Crew Factory, which I just learned is like Nordstrom. Like it's oh my God. I got to repare the pants and I'm matching set. I'm upset you're the queen of the diffusion store. I mean, I didn't know there were so many. Like I knew the OG's TJ Max Marshall's home. Taxes off fifth. Okay. So I didn't really realize that sex off faith is also one of those, but it's like a higher tier. So the pricing is still like a little nutty. Neiman Markins last call. Yeah. J. Crew Factory. I think you should head over to J. Crew Factory. You would love it. And I'll send you a link for my set. But what else did you want to point out that it looks different about me today? Oh, I mean, to a scan. It's something that you maybe may not be able to see, but more so feel. Okay. What am I feeling from you? Are you feeling like a sense of maturity and elegance and sort of just like well read? Yes, I will say yes, because that sweater looks like a sweater of a woman who's mature elegant and well read. Well, that makes sense because I did read with my partner in bed last night. How was it? Was it

3:04everything the average dream does? I just have to tell you something like we're still working through it. It was so quiet. Like I couldn't put the TV on in the background because then I just watched TV. But like it was dead silent. But that's part of maturation is being comfortable in silence. And it's not silent because you're reading. It was great. First of all, I've been I actually have not read a full book in probably a year. Like I've been so bad, but I got a book in the mail from Alison Pataki. Yeah, that's right. We're friends with Alison Pataki. She wrote the Marvarez Marvarez. Magnificent Marjorie post. Our favorite book ever. Yeah. And she writes like Swirly autobiography. She writes not only historical fiction books based on real characters, but she adds an element of swirliness so that we can digest it. So she has a new one coming out and she DMed me was like, can I send it? I was like, of course, I'm like, this is going to be the thing. Now when I got the book in the mail yesterday, I was a little disheartened because it looks like huge enormous. It looks like. Help me my book. My team in cover. It's even copyright. It's as thick as demon copper. But it's in the mouth of cloud. I'm going to do it. There was like a party girl on the cover. You know, I called a girl, which is really a great name for anything.

4:05It's giving gossip girl. Like on the cover is a woman, but like knows down, you know, deck litage. And instead I could do it. I'm going to do it. And I told you guys last week that I bought Ben a book and it was supposed to be a Shabbat book, but I said, let's read. Let's read. Of course, it took like a little, he's like, I'm not in the mood. I'm like, well, no one's in the mood to read. You just like sort of have to do it. So we read for, I want to say an hour. It was great. And then like when we went to sleep, he was like, tell me about your book. And I was like, tell me. And I understand based on what Ben told me, like why you would never recommend this book, but why it's perfect for Ben because he's telling me that the book is from multiple POVs. And which is least favorite if you're a redhead. You know that. And I don't know if snitch knows that there's a genre of book where like one of the POVs is a human and the other is octopus. So when Ben saying that like one of the book's perspectives is written from the perspective of an octopus and the other is of the person who works in the aquarium where the octopus lives, I was like, oh, we have to throw the book in the garbage. But Ben, of course, like Ben is so connected with marine wildlife. I'm like, oh my god, I picked the perfect book for my husband. And he was saying like that the octopus really wants to get out of the aquarium. And I was like, this is so bad. Like he loved it. So A plus to me for picking a buck for my husband,

5:07like it's perfect. Did the evening go off like, well, would you do it again? Would you recommend to a friend? Yes. And we both fell asleep very quickly. We weren't like, you know, wow, tightly from all the blue screens, you know? Right. And we had to bet like 930 just like peaceful adults. So much maturation happening in my bedroom last night. Wow. Wow. Wow. I'm really proud of you guys. And the book is great. Of course. Yeah. It's really good. It's very gilded age meets almost like Evelyn Hugo. I'm on my way. Yeah. It's very good. Say less bestie. Yeah. I saw a tick tock last night. That was like how to Gen Z. That was cringe. Shether. And I was like Gen Z. Okay. And it was like they just talk. No, like, you know, that are they talk? Well, yeah. They don't say anything. They're like, no, stop because like same. And it was just like really funny back and forth. And I'm like, I'm enjoying watching this. But it's going to affect how I speak. Yeah. And I never want to speak like that. Say less bestie. Okay. Say more queenie. That's what we say, because we encouraged dialogue here at the toast. We do. We do. I really enjoyed

6:08the tick tock, but uh, or the real. I was going to say you're watching tick tock in your test line. I watch tick tock to real pipeline. Of course. Of course. Um, and I just didn't want to affect me, but it seems like it has a year getting smarter. I'm getting stupider. It's so true. Join me up here. I'm leveling up everyone. I'm reading. Um, and I watched summer house yikes. Oh, yeah. I'm kind of like taking the moral high ground. Well, I mean, I finished a book last week. So I'm kind of like, I'm good for the month. It's I'm good for the year. I'm set. Yeah. Um, so I was able to watch summer house last night. I'll do a recap at the end. Nothing crazy. We're still set in the stage. We're still meeting new people. Dara's here. Oh, say hello to Dara. I like Dara. She has a lot of confidence and she's coming in solo. She's pretty. She's very pretty. Um, but it's crazy to have someone come in solo in the middle of the summer. Like why would you do that to someone when other girls got to come with friends in the beginning of the summer? Maybe production could like was getting the feeling that something wasn't working. And they just like throw someone else in there said, what about Dara? Yeah. So I really like her, but like she's just, you know, immediately a track like she's going like talking to guys and it's like everyone

7:11has a head start. It's a hard way to come in. Yeah. She's very confident. I don't think she's worried about that. But like, I'm worried about that because I just have Lexi trauma. And you're kind of like an empath I'm sensing. I am an empath and I have Lexi PTSD LTSD. Of course, you're not even an empath. You're a Lex path. And it's really hard to like watch the show without like being like justice for Lexi at every turn. Everything Jesse does. I'm like Lexi. Yeah. What about Lexi? Um, imagine how Lexi felt. What else can I tell you? Um, we celebrated Purm yesterday. Oh, Purm. Oh, Purm Samaya. I had about three. Buhamon. Buhamon. I had about three. Humintosh. If you know, you know, I love a fucking humintosh. Yeah. It's really a shortbread cookie. I will say like a lot of the cuisine of my people like is not my favorite. You know, it's just like a lot of deli meat. And like I just don't love like Jewish cuisine. Of course, I love a kashavarneshka. But I would say that's not enough. Of course. I wouldn't say that's guaranteed. Yeah. For me, like our cultural food to me is like not my favorite. And which

8:12are you speaking like Ashkenaz food? Because like all you don't like Sfard food. I don't know if you know, I grew up like with a really good friend who's Moroccan. So I ate a lot of Moroccan food. And I do actually, you know, as her, she's like the house sandwich with those with those meals. And you love like meat cigars. I do love meat cigars. And you love Arias. Yeah, but that's like Middle Eastern food. Like I'm talking about cultural Jewish. Yeah. Like second avenue deli type of prep law. Ashkenaz. Like your Alicia wouldn't say that's Jewish. You're she didn't grew up with it. Ashkenaz fair. Yeah. Middle East is sfardic. Yeah. Okay. Ashkenaz fair. Okay. You know, could fill to fish. Just not my, my scene per se. Um, although we ate the house down. Love could fill food with those hummentation. A little is a shortbread. It's like a crumbly little pastry with a jam filling. It's a shortbread cookie. I love a strawberry hummentation. So fucking delicious. And what's funny is you would think chocolate hummentation would be the best, but actually know it needs that light fruitiness. You would think that a chocolate hummentation would be the best, but it does need that fruitiness. Like actually, shockingly, the worst hummentation,

9:12chocolate, apricot hummentation. Okay. Greater than chocolate hummentation. Yes, you the best. The best. Stay with me is three to one strawberry. Um, there's really strawberry apricot prune. Now people get crazy. I saw a biscoff hummentation yesterday. Well, I love when my people get creative, of course. Yeah. But let's just speak of the traditional flavors. But you need that light fruitiness. Um, so yes, sometimes you just need a little jam. I love jam, by the way. I love the final jam. Did I make my own jam when I had two semen puree blueberries for rubla? No. So you would think, but no, boulevard jam. Like in order to make jam, you boil, you had lemons, sugar, salt, like a bunch of stuff. So it's not an actual jam. When I made blueberry purveys. When I made blueberry puree, food for rubla, it looked like as ever with love. It did, but it didn't taste like it. I've never, I've never made jam, even though you would think that's definitely next on your list. Yeah. Olivia makes jam. Yeah. Once I get back into the

10:16swing up things. Right. And you know what's going to get me back into the swing up things, not to like put the car before the horse, but like in a couple months, when I am making baby food, that's how I got into like a home cooking from scratch to begin with, because like I want to see what's in everything. And I'm about to go on that journey again, a little sourdough for Maxi. He will love it. He, he will love it. He will love it. What are the stories like today? A lot of content news, like lots of TV, like pilots, variety, deadline. Yep. Yep. I love that deadline. Production deadline. I would say is the theme of the episode. TV guide. Okay. Inside our news. Should we get into it? I mean, we have a doubt. Honestly, not in the mood. Hey, what else is going on with you? What do you think of Luke comes to new song? Be by you. I don't, I haven't experienced it enough because I've fallen down to Eddie Swim's rabbit hole and I can't get up. You should get up because Luke comes to new song is so good. I think I just want to make love wake up next to you with no makeup on. So unfortunately, like my hormonal journey right now,

11:19like only has me listening to like soulful and or house music. Um, house? Yeah, I just love the beats. Now I do think when I stop breastfeeding, like and I have that hormonal change, like maybe I'll be feeling country music, but like this is really crazy to say, like I'm not listening to any country music right now. That's just like not what the hormones have been sore for me. Okay. I know. Usually that's like all I crave. Yeah. But I'm listening to my body. Yeah. My body wants David Getta. Uh-huh. What are you going to do about it? You can't fight nature. Can I circle back quickly to something we spoke about yesterday? Just like a brief update for the fans. Um, obviously young Roni. I'm not going to be on Roni, but I have heard because I haven't heard from Hailey Glassman. I mean, she blocked me, but she doesn't post anything, whatever. Um, and apparently like her, uh, come back is that I made everything up. She said like I'm lying and all these are fake screenshots. Okay. Yeah. So that's what I did on over the weekend. I made up screenshots. I actually screened. I'm glad I screen recorded. Um, that's really our entire thread before she blocked me just in case like I need to receive. It's

12:23and she did block me. So I just want to say like given everything I'm seeing like sounds amazing. She's going to be like an amazingly crazy house. It's giving one season wonder like it'll be a crazy nutty season. It's not sustainable. No. Yeah, because we need to be like anchored to the truth. But we'll set you free. But like, okay, let's see what happens. When you throw a crazy person in the mix. Yeah. That was like, and I try to say like, I feel like I was very graceful yesterday. I did say, I forget her, even though she didn't apologize, and now she's over here slandering me, saying I'm lying. So like now she's officially mad at me. She's got to protect Hailey's self. Like someone I imagine getting on Roni is like the most amazing thing that could happen. And she's not going down. She's not about to let her like, um, she's not going down with turd ship. Yeah, right. She will throw you under that ship. I won't go down with this ship. And we're not here to throw her off the ship. I said don't fire her. Like I literally came on this show. We just want to have a supportive of my childhood bully. And there she is now accusing me of lying. We want to have a quorum on the ship. And you know what I talk about

13:26who was bullying our ship. There's only one way for this saga to end. I have around the toes. A thousand percent. The invitation is open. I think that would make like really amazing content. Really? Yeah. We would just sit here and be like, it will kind of be like a study into the mind of a troll. Let's see if she will be open about it. Okay. And I'm down to sit down with my biggest fan. Like, okay. That's so exciting. People are always saying, you should have twisters on the show. Here we go. I think it'll be a one-on-one. Oh, you're not coming. You better be my bully. You're not going to have my back in the school yard bully. I'll have your back. But that doesn't sound like that's what that's what this is. Well, I have to see what sort of energy like I will be receptive to like whatever sits in front of me. And one thing about me, maybe for you as well, like when someone says sorry, like the power of a sorry, absorbed. So actually when somebody says sorry to me, like everything I felt before flips. And I actually feel bad that like I brought this person to the place of saying sorry, like I had to debase them into an apology. Like I can't receive an apology without feeling so guilty. Yeah.

14:31No, but really I'm like, it wasn't that big of a deal. I don't know why I was like so upset. I'm so ready to move on after a genuine sorry, which is why I appreciate like a real apology. But when I get a real apology, Jackie, it's Hilly Joel Osmond using an anti-Semitic slur to a police officer. And the next morning, like writing up one of the most heartfelt apologies. He was like, I fully blacked out. I don't use that word. I don't know why I said it. I feel awful. Like one thing about me, I'm Hilly Joel Osmond summer one fan. Like that's on take, when we say accountability, a word that has truly lost its meaning. I'm talking about Hilly Joel Osmond the morning after his arrest, okay? That's why I don't like like phony like bullshit apologies because you take the power out of an apology and I think an apology is so powerful. I totally agree. So that power forgiveness is so real. It is. I find myself to be like a very forgiving person. Three words. Hilly Joel Osmond. The proof is in the Joel. Like if you ever want to know how truly graceful and forgiving we are, just watch the episode where we heard that Hilly Joel Osmond used the K word, okay? And then we were like mad at ourselves. We're like

15:36maybe the officer was. That's the power of a good apology. Like he can get you to really swing. So true. It's so true. True that. I hope he's doing well. But I feel like we are unique in that. Yeah. Other people like they want you to apologize and to grovel. No, but other people also demand apologies. No matter the genuine. Don't apologize if you don't need it. No, they demand apologies and then they don't forgive. So don't demand and don't apologize if you're not going to forgive. But that's on everyone else. Not the two women. Sat in here. You're right. Sort of talking the talk and walking the walk. Three words. Hilly Joel Osmond. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Now. Now I feel right. I think we made a good point and like we should just end on a win. Yeah, before we like back it up. Yeah, right. Without further ado, ado, ado, it is time for the fast-fived stories that you to do need to know. And the fast-fived stories that you to do need to know are brought to you by Taylor Farms chop salad kids. You know, there's something very powerful. We were just saying about apology, but there's also something very powerful about eating a salad. Of course, the benefits

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19:46of women, because I support women all year long. I don't need a monthly reminder. I know some of like other women do. I don't. Yeah, also, I feel like when you get into the month game, then you have to celebrate every month. And if you don't celebrate some months, like it just will never actually just be able to choose like the best business person, you know? Right. So I feel like let the best business person be the businessman of the week. What you're saying is BMOTW is very much a meritocracy. It is a meritocracy. Okay. And well now that you've said it, like I do sort of want next week's to be a woman, because I just I don't know. I feel like that's really beautiful. How about this? How about this? Let's see if any woman dazzles us. Yeah. I'll be out and look out. Yep. Our first story, not Carolyn Bissett, Sarah Pigeon who plays Carolyn Bissett Kennedy in JFK love story or whatever the fuck it's called love story. The JFK junior and Carolyn Bissett story. She's in face of road genius. I was waiting for Calvin Klein to do an undy thing with her and Paul Smith,

20:49whatever his name is Paul Anthony. Paul Anthony Smith. Paul Smith Anthony. I had no idea. Paul in JFK. Paul. And I was waiting for some days to have them very much like the skims model where like someone's having a moment. I will say road acted very quickly. Slay to house down boots. I saw a TikTok of like how people are getting so bent out of shape with Carolyn Bissett being like rest in peace. Carolyn Bissett, you would have loved Pilates. And it was it was a it was a podcast clip from Flewley Foward. It was like rest in peace. Carolyn Bissett, you would have loved Machin. It's like Machin Pilates were around with Carolyn Bissett. She was chain smoking in her apartment. It was a dump. Like she's not the bitch you think she was. Like her hair was always messy. Like you guys are just like putting your clean girl aesthetic. Like no. No, the thing is like she was the Icarl the time and the Icarls then were changed. She's sick. Yes. Now the Icarls are doing Machin Pilates. She would have loved I'm with them that she would have loved Machin Pilates. I want to say I do think people are getting and a cigarette really are like bent out of shaping and I kind of miss that core. Although it's very much like when so fear Richie like when viral for her style and everybody started

21:52dressing like nicely. Yeah. Where are your black trousers? It's having a good effect. It's having a nice I think everybody's looking really nice and like sort of polished and business casual. So I like that. I like that too. Sarah Pigeon is insanely gorgeous. I didn't realize her background at all. I never watched her original show The Wilds which I actually think I might have seen the first episode of we're like a plane crashes on an island with like a bunch of girls going to like a troubled youth school and she's like one of the girls I think. And so people really loved it. It was very much like a the society it got canceled and like there was a really niche following. But she also has a background on on Broadway because I saw this clip of her doing NPR tiny desk singing. Oh wow. And she's like black hair. I'm like is that Carolyn Bessette Kennedy? Yeah. She was on like a brown hair. She talks about as she was interviewed in Vogue for being the new face of road talking about beauty talking about how she's loving life as a blonde and she's gonna stay a blonde like until she has to change for her next role. And being the face of road and I know like road is big business but I feel like this is a major move for road. Yes. It's their first like very much entering this level of like

22:57kind of the skims model. I don't know who was doing it before skims like Victoria's Secret Angel almost like yeah but where they also had tape McCray for the lip liners. I know and I don't feel like that really moved like it was exciting for like young girls on TikTok but outside of that yeah I don't feel like it was nearly as exciting. So this isn't their like first face just to say but I don't know. It's their first lie. It's a really great face for the brand and I don't I don't know why like I feel like they I'm shocked that she did this you know and Sarah Pigeon. Yeah because she's such a big deal right now she could have any beauty campaign in the world. Yeah but it's great for road that they got her and I think it's great for her and I think this is a really well matched but I'm it didn't seem so obvious to me. No of course not. It's also a big deal because like this company became a billion dollar company off of one face and I think the goal is that like road could flourish without Haley and it's just like a skincare brand that everybody knows and loves that was happened to be started by Haley Bieber. So them sort of like passing the baton onto a new face is a big deal. No air like Tara and that would have loved road

24:00when tape McCray did it. It was just like a campaign. It wasn't like she's the new face and she's just kind of just like a model and a commercial. It wasn't I don't know. It wasn't like a passing of the baton. No but it's like if she launched this would never happen. If she launched lip liners and had like Kylie. Kylie is the face of lip liner. Like that's how I feel about Sarah Pigeon and Carolyn Missette. Like they really are like the clean girl personified on TV right now and it's it makes a lot of sense. The campaign itself is Georgina. She has like glowy dewy skin lots of blush like the very road aesthetic. She's wearing pink. I loved it. Like I thought this was such a slay creatively. I thought it was a great choice for Sarah Pigeon. Not an obvious choice. I'm sure she has a lot of options. I thought it was a great choice for her an amazing get for them. And I just know like Kim is freaking like this is so like skins. Yeah it is. And because of the Calvin Klein of it all too when how Kim's like swims. Sorry underwear like lingerie shoots have kind of become the new Brook Shields Mark Wahlberg Calvin Klein era. I'm sure like she's kind of pissed. Yeah. And I do think them doing Calvin

25:01Klein ad like would have been two on the nose. But I think them doing skims together. JFK and Sarah would have been what we would have thought would happen. Yeah. And honestly it's still because this is just beauty. She can still like sell undies. No of course but like getting it first. I was really waiting for the Calvin Klein. I don't know if like Calvin Klein hates this show when it's not going to get involved because he's being portrayed as like a kind of an asshole. So maybe that's why they didn't do it. Yeah. But it's a mist. I'm sure it was floated at like a Calvin Klein headquarters. They're like should we ask and like they were like no. No honestly I'm waiting for skins. I think skims could still happen. It would have been a slide if it came out before road. But it's two different things. And I think we should have both because they sound both really pargy. I love this. Yeah. I agree. All in all like the effect that the show is having on culture is a net positive. And I'm seeing a lot of content. It's not like bothering me. No. No. I love it. Like it trust with me. Like as if I was Caroline Mossette or I saw some girl being like I worked for Ethel Kennedy for three years. I think she like worked in her home and how like so many of the worlds were so strict. You had to serve from the left but take away from the right. Like

26:03I don't know if you didn't like you got in trouble. But she was like a really amazing lady on that of course Taylor Starlight. Yeah. Starlight. Taylor Swift's era. Apparently Ethel loved Taylor. Like and loved the song about her. Like she thought it was amazing. I said oh my. It's a great song. It's a marvelous tune. It was the best night. Never would forget how we moved. The whole place was dance to the nines. And we were dancing. Dancing. I would say Taylor's watching love story or it's like too close. She like met some of these people. I think she is watching because I think she's in her TV era right now. And she like kind of had the world having the experience that she had 10 years ago where she became obsessed with the Kennedys but she just had access and started dating one of them. Yes. Also upon further review and seeing video interview of Jack Schlossberg. I think he's mad at the show because I think he would have wanted to play JFK. That's such a hot take. I haven't heard anybody say that. Yeah. When I saw him I'm like you know he kind of looks like him and after Michael Jackson's nephew was playing Michael Jackson and they had the hardest time casting. Why not the nephew? Yeah. What if you just that's not a bad call.

27:10Although I don't think the concept of being upset at like a fictionalized show about like people in your family who died tragically. I feel like that happens a lot. They make movies or to panel Anderson. Nobody likes the thing. But I feel like he's coming out so hard against it while also benefiting from it so greatly. It's like well just be quiet and enjoy the attention because you like need it. Maybe some of the details are wrong in the personality. They have nothing to go on. But at the end of the day as a whole the show is a love story to JFK and Carolyn and it's showing them in a positive light. A thousand percent. So yeah maybe the details aren't what how you so the how how it happened. But overall I feel like it's a good thing it's introducing a lot of people to them. No and it's resurging this like obsession with the Kennedy dynasty and like now we're looking for you know Rando Kennedys and he is one. So it's like and he's running for Congress. So like you would think in the political space like it's so beneficial for him. He is really sort of riding the coattails of it while also slamming it. You know who else could have played JFK. He's

28:11a little young but he's really kind of Patrick Schwarzenegger. I believe I read somewhere. Thank you for running me. Ryan he was Ryan Murphy's like there was something maybe he Ryan Murphy wanted him to do it and he was like absolutely not because it's like his actual family. Although that would have been a great casting. There was something with Arnold not Arnold's excuse me Patrick. Yeah he doesn't look like him a lot and he doesn't seem like a man in his 30s and 40s. And he's like a little short. Oh you know what I mean like JFK was this like large presence. Okay. And I think Patrick Schwarzenegger is extremely hot like slay the house and moods but like he short. I didn't know that he was short. I didn't know that was happening. He gives short. I don't even know. He doesn't give short at all. Really Patrick Schwarzenegger. But yeah like everyone else looks like exactly their character. Oh never mind he's six one. He gives short. And he's just like a nepo casting. Yeah they would have loved that. But I guess that's like a little weird if it's not like and JFK Jr. was six one. It's kind of the perfect height. I don't know why he doesn't give

29:15like big tall energy in his 30s. I want to know I feel like he's younger. But he's engaged. He's married. He's married. His age is 32. Okay. Sus. It's kind of perfect. Let me see him. We find like a new picture of him all done. And they could have you know had prosthetics. Yeah. Okay he could have done it. And he should have. He could have for sure. Like he could have prosthetics a little die. He definitely was not allowed. Like he wasn't even allowed to take the movie. Mario was like are you fucking serious? Damn. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Traders star Eric Nam gets his revenge against winner Rob Ross in his new music video. Did you see this? I saw that he hired Rob. Rob, Ron, Ron, Jim, Jim, Natalie and Moira are all in Eric's new music video for his new single How The Fire Started. I obviously did not watch the video but I saw

30:18that like a trailer and I thought it was really really nice of everyone to hurt his name. Yeah because you know it's like an on pay gig. What was the video about? I think he's gets his revenge on Rob. He travels to Rob's ranch to write some wrongs after his or I guess he was really wronged by Rob wouldn't think he about like the only think of Moira. He wasn't robbed any more than like Lisa or Candace. Yeah but we talk about Lisa and Candace. Yeah because in the last episode Moira was so betrayed. We forget about the other trail that happened because Rob had no reason to like boot Eric out other than the money because they could have won together his traders if he stopped the game. I forgot that Eric was a singer. He didn't sing once like Mark Ballas did his world. He was a clear man. And he got it wrong. Remember and he said I'm a musician. I can hear a pig. He was you Tiffany. That was so crazy. The beginning of Traders was so good. It really was. I forgot that he was a singer. I didn't hit the song or the music video but like

31:20cutesy. I wonder what the genre is. Do you want to listen? Sure. A little bit. Let me play it on Spotify. Um and I wonder how this has impacted his musical career because I hadn't heard of it. I mean we are talking. We are about to play his song on our show. Yeah but I don't want to get demonetized. No it's like two seconds. I just want to hear like the I feel like it's probably like Bipaparu you know. I don't. Skip forward a little bit. Okay it sounds like openers good. I just want to say I like the intro. We love it. It's good. I'm listening on the way home. It's good. It's good. Okay Eric. And my car is connected to my Spotify so it's going to be playing in my car. Yeah that happens to me with the happy song. Oh my god me too. That's wrong. Every day I'm like I wasn't listening to this in the car.

32:26I get to the sky. If you have a baby and you don't know the happy song like go save yourself. Okay. Speak yourself to a few minutes of peace. But it always plays in the car. Our next story. You're going to love this. Turdy's going to love this. What? Vanderpump rules producer Alex Baskin's 32 flavors. His production company is boarding season two of Love by Nader. So Love by Nader is about to get the Vanderpump rules treatment. Alex Baskin who is a producer of Vanderpump rules his kind of a legendary Bravo producer. His company 32 flavors which continues to produce the Vanderpump rules and Beverly Hills and the Valley will now produce the second season alongside Disney and Jimmy Kimmel and smoking baby productions. So he's getting involved. But in fact about me is that I hosted a panel of Bravo Con and he was on it. And honestly I didn't think I realized to like way after like how big of a deal he was. It was all about trips that they've taken and he had produced. He produces all the shows you mentioned. But

33:26then also like random seasons of New York like Bravo picks him up when they need him. And it's kind of legendary. So I feel like this boat's really well for Love by Nader. And while I think this is amazing, give us the fucking second season like enough already. Yeah. And now it's like what is the second season going to be? Is it even going to be that footage that they teased at the end of the first season, which is Bezos' wedding, which was so long ago? Do you know what just happened? They should just like put out the second season and then brought him out for season three because you're going to have to like rework everything. It's now old and part of the amazing thing about Love by Nader. It's like happening like three months before it came out. And it kind of sounds like they just hired him. Like you know what I mean? Yeah, no, it doesn't sound good. Give us the second season of Bezos wedding. Even if it's bad, we'll watch the third season with Alex Baskin. Yeah. Just call it like bonus content or something. Put it on YouTube. Like whatever. Struggling. Yeah. Some of us miss Thy Nader. And I do feel like it's actually at this point going to negatively impact ratings. Like it's so long. Yeah. It's kind of like jeopardy. No. Making us wait to the point where we don't care. Not us particular, but yeah,

34:31it's not like boating well. We've had like three seasons of Mormon wives in the time. Then we've waited for Love by Nader. Right. And almost like knowing how fast Tulu can turn things around is making me sus. Like something's up. Yeah. And like what's going on with Mary and Julian? Yeah. They left us on like a cliffhanger. But it's like that was now two years ago. They moved to a new place. Yeah. And I feel like if I'm when they pick back up. It was actually in the spring. I almost hope they don't answer those questions because I mean, we're watching old shit. Yeah, but that was in the spring. Like it was they had Easter. So it's like June and the Mormon wives have like literally turned everyone on their asses. I'm doing it. Let me start on Love Island. Right. Are you ready for our next story? Some more content news. Number four. I feel like no. No, I feel like no. Is it our fourth more content news? That's brought to you by Quassant. Quassant. So Crescent helps reward you through thoughtful shopping, not impulse buying. So Crescent helps you shop in a smarter way. They put real resell value back into shopping so you can buy better and not more. When you shop with Crescent,

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38:43is untold. His ex wife, Chloe Kardashian appears in the documentary revealing to viewers that she felt a responsibility to cover up for his drug use and protect him during their marriage. It is called the death and life of Lamar Odom. It premieres on Netflix March 31st. This is so crazy. I feel like even though the Kardashians like they've had Lamar back on, they talk openly about Lamar. I don't feel like Chloe's ever really sat down and told the whole story. Not even just about his overdose, but like what preceded that their marriage. Their marriage. She hasn't. She really hasn't. She alludes a lot to like a very dark time when Rob was living in the house and I think that like the Mars addiction might have affected Rob and like he got Rob. Like we never really found out, but a lot of why Rob is MIA and off camera and out of the public eyes because of that time. Like was really damaging for him and I think Chloe feels like a huge responsibility. So we know like based on very limited like contextualized things, but we've never sat down and gotten the fall. I think they've talked a lot about the actual overdose and how Chloe was here. Everything after that they came and said goodbye. But nothing really during the

39:44marriage other than that it was a dark time and now we know that there was drug use because there was drug use after, but she talks about how like he would escape from rehab and go on a drug vendor and no one could find him and like that was their marriage, which we don't know that. And I'm sure like she was never going to tell the whole world that but now he's doing a documentary about himself. I'm sure he and now he's an open book. So I guess as much as she wants to share because she's also entitled to her privacy from that time. I'm surprised she even sat down. I am and I'm not. I don't know how you could do a documentary on the mar without her. Yeah, and I think that she really wants what's best for him, but you'd be missing a big piece. I think like she wants him to survive and thrive on his own. So like however she can help she will. But this does seem like a big burden for her to take on because I think she's like so traumatized by that period in her life. It might be healing for her to share it. Well, she also recently started therapy. Like she talked about that on Kardashians. Like maybe this is a part of her journey. You know, and there's worse places to tell your story than Netflix. Like when I feel like they'll do it with respect and dignity and untold is like a really um,

40:48critically acclaimed series. I'm critic. No, people love it. It's done really well. So I don't think it's like a tacky eat your Hollywood story. No, it's not. It's a good place to go when you want. Like I mean, if you have the opportunity because they don't focus on that many people and I think what's going to be interesting about this at least for me is like the focus that they'll have on his sport aptitude because I just think of Lamar as like Chloe in Lamar. He's a legend. But before that legendary Lakers, like Kobe's number one guy. His talent is amazing. I think they talk about six man. I think they talked about in the documentary that the Lakers were like making special rules for him because like he was, you know, on drugs and playing basketball and I imagine they take drug tests, but they like let him. That doesn't like look good for the Lakers. That's what it's that's what the trailer seemed to be. Like they, I don't know if they're saying they let him play on drugs, but they had, I think they let him get away with a lot. I mean, it's being of the NBA. I saw something on TikTok this morning of like drama that's happening in Houston. Houston. So Houston, um, they're having like a themed, we have a game coming up and they're having a theme. It's called the Magic City night or whatever.

41:50And it's like honoring a local institution. Magic City. It's like a famous place in Houston. And it's a strip club. Oh, and so one of the players wrote a sub sack being like, I, I'm just like writing this essay to like urge the NBA and Houston to cancel this event. Like like spotlighting an industry where like he really was like very woke like where so many women get abused and it's supposed to be like family friendly entertainment. Um, and it's kind of, I saw it on TikTok. Like people are having like lots of debates about whether the NBA should be like having a night sort of celebrate the strip club. Yeah, which like I think just baseline like basketball's marketed as like a family friendly event and like a lot of kids go. And so like for that reason, it shouldn't, but he went like really deep on the lore of like abuse, the history of abuse in the sexual industry. Yeah, it was so crazy. That is crazy. I think they're also playing the Orlando Magic that night. So it was like the magic theme. Yeah, I don't know who's weird. I thought it was so crazy. What if you had a magician come? I know this guy. The dinner put the magician. No, he puts his hits on his face. And he's an amazing magician.

42:56Seed Max. Seed Max. Yeah, I actually think he broke his jaw. Yeah, he was doing a lot. He was crazy. If you were on like the New England, some magic show a couple weeks ago and it was just like, you know, a small magic show, a local guy, a really good magic out there. If you were on the New England summer camp circuit in like the early 2000s, then you know, Steve Maxx, he would come to everyone's summer camp. Put it on your face. And his thing was that he would take a lawn chair and put a kid on the lawn chair, like I always picked the tiniest kid. Which is still impressive. Sorry, I wasn't like knocking him. And he picked up the chair. And he would balance the chair and the child on his jaw. I heard he retired because he like shattered his jaw from years of hard work and making kids laugh. But that was a great time. All to say, like there are other things that you could do if you want to celebrate magic. Well, you know what's cute through Orlando Magic? That's like Disney's. Yeah, cute. No, never put that together. You guys, we are planning a trip to Disney. It seems as a Disney's in our future. And the one spearheading, the campaign. It's always how it happens for us. It's like we have a Disney engine and we just like go to Disney.

43:57And I guess that's one of the beauties of being in Florida. Yeah. And like being here, Ben is like, we are going to go home soon. I'm just I meant to tell everyone that like it's our time is coming. So Ben is like, we can't have been here for so long and never have been to Disney. And Ben is just sort of wanted to become a parent. So he could go to Disney. He made me go as like to like childless adults a few years ago. And it was one or six periods of my life. And so I agree that we should go. We're here. I also need you to go because I need to know what you think about it. Like I need to experience it with you. Yeah. I can't tell if you are going to love it or hate it. I could see like really liking a lot of elements of it, but like not loving a lot of the physical elements. I could see it being so tired after that's not so bad. And you have you're strong. I know, but like I'm physically strong, mentally weak. Like I could just see it being like, I don't want to go. Yeah. But I'm going and I told Ben, like if you want it, like you have to book it. Like I'm not putting all the work like finding our Disney committee is Ben Olivia and my husband, you know, he will he should serve a good chat. He said, does he when? So it's just about like finding the right time,

44:58but like we're going. Disney, Disney, Disney. Imagine I come back like a full blown Disney adult. Well, and then I become one of those people who like moves to Florida, like so they could be but I would move to like Orlando. You know, you get much better ticket prices as a Florida resident. So you'll just have to be buying the tickets. Yeah. Yeah. But if you move here, like you go cheaper. If you love it, it's a reason to move to the state. I don't know. Well, some people do. I see people on TikTok who are like Orlando influencers and they literally moved from like Scottsdale to being near Disney. And they're like, when they need to go for a walk, they go to Disney park. When you go there, you're not going to want to do that. But you might have an understanding of like, it's the world's best playground. Like imagine you could live for your kids. Like they go with out their kids. Like they drop their kids off at school. And she's like, I need to go for a walk. So I'll go to Epcot. It's walkable. That's insane. Like that's. No, I'm not saying I would ever do that. But like, it's the world's most amazing playground. Like if you could live near it, it's kind of a slay. We're going. We are going. We're vlogging. Of course. Whenever we need to bring a camera crew. Where's Alex Baskin when you need it? Yeah. We need a crew. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final

46:02story? It's more content news. I don't really know what it means. Squid game. The VIP challenge season one is set at Netflix with a celebrity cast. So it's oh, okay, because celebrity shock with you chose this celebrity Squid games. Oh, okay. Here are some of the cast members. Squid games has been beaten to a pulp. Like Mr. Beast. Like he has his own show, but it's like beast games. Like so one thing about me I never watch Squid games. I don't know what it's about except that remember earlier in the week. I don't know if it's a reality show or a scripted show. Remember earlier in the week when we said there are many series that like get a second season and they should have been given the miniseries treatment. Squid games that first season of Squid games. No, what else? Too hot to handle on Netflix once it was like I'm not talking about reality shows because Squid games reality. No, it's a scripted show. And the first season is one of the best seasons of television. It's insane. Like it was amazing. I know they did a second season. I never watched it. I mean when it's the biggest show and it was the biggest show in the world. Like how do you not? But it really it shouldn't have. And now yes, you're right. They did a reality show.

47:05Mr. Beast. And so I guess they're doing a reality show. This is a reality version of Squid games. Mr. Beast has a show on prime called Beast Games. That I know. And I think it's like an interpolation. Okay. Okay. Well now they're doing Squid games like celeb version. Okay, who's on it? Spice Girls. Sweet sorry. Let me tell you what can I tell you what the Squid games are. Okay. So in Korea they like it's like this underground ring where like these people come and they like find people who are down on their luck. Like financially the guy that they chose like a gambling addict and was like a really bad debt. And they give them an opportunity to win a million dollars if they come to this game. Squid games. But it's not real. No, it's a scripted show. Okay. And so we follow all these people. They like come to this facility and it's exciting until they realize it's a hunger game. It's like they fight to the death. They're all these challenges until one person doesn't die or win a million dollars. Or but the pot keeps growing with however many people die. And if you kill someone, it adds money to the pot. It's like kind of traders like

48:06until there's one person standing. Okay. Should I watch it? It's very good. Honestly. Oh, okay. Well, so it's dubbed. Do you know like an ares? It's like in the language. But then they have the I don't mind. It wasn't annoying. So here's who's on. Okay. Celebrity version of Squid games. It's the reality show and no one's actually dying on Netflix. On Netflix. Okay. Spice Girls star Mel B. Oh, Dylan Efron. Of course, he never misses an opportunity to go out a winner. Like he's going to become like, you know what I mean? Like he did dancing with the stars and he did traders. Like the two biggest shows of this elk. And he came out beloved both times. Like he should just take the W and go. No, but like at this point, being on on sombal shows is his career. Yeah. Like how did he even get on the first one? Neppo. But that was the best thing that ever happened to him. Yeah. Tristan Thompson. Why was he on that Kevin Jonas show? I don't think there was enough episodes. I think it's still on. That would mean Zach had to do it. What's the Kevin? No, no, no, no, no. The Kevin and Frankie Jonas show

49:09where like all these celebrity offspring siblings, what's it called? Claim to fame, live in a house together. And they have to guess like who they're related to. I feel like Dylan would have been a good one. People like that show. No, it's like. Tristan Thompson. Kim Zolciac. Queen. Hannah Goodwin from the bachelor. Oh, exciting. Yeah. She hasn't been back on TV since the bachelor. Yeah, I'm shocked. I'm surprised that this is what she wants to do. Ryan Sirhant. Okay. And Viper, who is a squid and Viper, a squid game, the challenge alum voted in. There was like another probably normy version. British. So yeah, that's this is crazy. And then Christy Sarah, who's a content creator? Do you know her? I don't, but I endorse the content creator. This type of show was like really huge right now. I don't know if you saw House of Villains on Peacock. I've heard of it. Oh my god. I saw the funniest clip. Like whoever works at Peacock, fucking Higgs time stand of all time stand of all's on it.

50:12And I guess the premise of the show is like you were a villain on your own show. And now we're going to put you on a house for like a show of just villains. So he has car pulls up to the house and he gets out. But they had his mic on the whole time. So you hear him in the car practicing what he's going to say when he gets out, which is House of Villains. I guess it's come to this. So you hear him in the car being like, I guess it's come to this. I guess it's come to this. Wait, why would he be practicing the car? He's a loser. That's insane. I know. And then like you hear it three times, then you see him do it like flawlessly. That's kind of me. It was kind of me. It's mean that he showed it, but like that's crazy that he was reacting mad. I appreciate that he takes his job seriously. Yeah. And then I think he was the first person eliminated. Because I saw him on watch Evans live like talking about his time on the show. I'm like it just premiered. But maybe that doesn't mean he's eliminated. No, it does make he's just promoting. Yeah. I saw the clip that you were talking about of the Twinkett and Red Head coming for a man of Francis. And then he was like, I don't even watch a show. I don't know why I said that.

51:13It was so fun. It was really fun. So Squid Game VIP challenge, like if that sounds good, right? That's good. I'm surprised that a lot of the casting on there. It's actually pretty high cover. Yeah. So if that sounds good, that's good. I don't know what that means. And with that, I guess we'll leave you. It was poignant words. Like we said, today's themes are very much like well-read maturation. So it makes sense that we would sort of end the episode in a beautiful tagline. A poetic note. What do you think Haley Glassman's tagline is going to be? Oh wait, I have to do my summer house recap. Oh, sorry. Okay. Haley Glassman's tagline. So great question. Hashtag Glassman plastic need a neck lift? Hashtag Glassman's plastic surgery. Oh wait, I have it. I have it. I don't uplift. I neck lift. I love that. It's like really good. Mean, but she does have surgery. Yeah. She's like a bully who, but she, oh, I'm sorry. She doesn't do plastic surgery. Her dad does. She does PR. And that's how she met John Goslin. He came in to get, I think, like his ex-wife, a tummy talk, and ended up leaving with the doctor's

52:18daughter. But she does PR for last months. That I don't know. In the articles, they said she's like PR even. Yeah, she gives like Lizzie Grubman energy. That's a really big compliment. Really, Lizzie Grubman drove her suburban into a club in the Hamptons and almost killed like 100 people and like literally left people paralyzed. But she's like the best publicist ever do it, right? No, she's not. Her dad is the best lawyer to ever do it. That's why she's like a NEPO baby. Like, she was like a ditzy socialite who literally got drunk when I in the Hamptons and drove her car into a club full of people. I thought she was also like an acclaimed publicist. No, I think she became like a latent life publicist because like what do you do, you know, after you've sort of like almost killed like a hundred people. PR. Correct. Well, do you have a tag line from this glass, man? It's hard because we don't know a lot about her. Right. Because again, she's just like my hater. Um, I don't, I'm sorry, I don't have a gears. It was really good. Thank

53:19you so much. Let's talk about summer house. Something happened. Let's talk about summer house. So Dares here. Dares chilling. So everyone's like the single guys are excited about. Dares mostly like KJ and Australian bachelor band, but she's into KJ, which is interesting because he's like younger and everyone like a Doris Bemidt. She said she just didn't feel a spark with him, which I'm glad because like Bailey, I'm really like feeling fond of Bailey. She's like showing us more. She the brunette of the blonde. The blonde. Levi, the brunette is like barely on the show. She's there this weekend. She's like Bailey from last year. Yeah. She's like, I think they're to support and I think we get some professionals from her, but like Bailey is the full-time cast member. I read on Twitter. People are like loving Bailey. I wanted to know what the temperatures was about her because I imagine people. They say she's the future of the show because she's like very honest and vulnerable. And she's like, you know, her thing is like she's kind of like, you know, a weirdo and she doesn't have confidence, but like it's translating. And I guess she was like in a relationship before that like really rocked her confidence. So she like doesn't even know how to like flirt anymore. And she was like, I'm going to try and flirt with West. And she's like talking to him. And it was just really funny. Like she did a terrible job, but it was genuinely

54:23enjoyable to watch. And she wasn't even like, she never feelings her. She doesn't like him. She's just like trying to purpose. She does like think Ben is really cute and doesn't know how to go about it. So I'm glad that like Ben and dad and let people in the house are like mingling and then speaking up. The show is supposed to be. So like the core drama is that Jesse like asked West if he could like make out with Sierra. And that got back to Sierra. And she was so offended. And she was right because she was like, her and Jesse are like best friends. If he wants something a little bit more with her, first of all, she should talk about it first. You like the only person she should be asking for permission because it's her. And second of all, like if you like her like that, like you should be asking for permission to take her on a date, not kiss her. Like what? And what it's because it's like a joke. Like, oh, no, if we made out, it wouldn't be a big deal. Like a joke. But so I'm like, a joke to you. She was like, everyone in this house, like knows I want a boyfriend. And then I'm more traditional. Like, why would you hear all that? And then think, oh, like, let's make out for fun. And in the context of Lexi, it's insane. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like, it was so apt because she was like, I hate how

55:23Jesse moves like without intention. And then he, when she like confronts him about, he's like, I guess I didn't think about like what my intentions were. And like that's literally the problem. That's why I said like two seasons ago on Southern charm Austin said like he's been doing therapy. And now he's dating with intention. Like, yeah, you don't just like make out with someone who's like looking or if it's your friend. And then what's next? You have to have a plan for things. You can't just like go about your like like that. And what really bothers me about Jesse is he's always saying he's looking for a relationship and not like. And it's like if you're looking for a relationship, why would you just make out with your best friend? And if you do want to make out with your best friend and you guys have an amazing friendship and you're attracted to her, obviously like, why not something more serious? Like why, why does your head not go there? So he's really frustrating. And I feel like a lot of the frustrations that we have with him last season. And this is what like Lexi was frustrated with him about. Like if you want to be my boyfriend, you have to be more serious as an individual. Yeah. Is now coming up this season, which it's like better late than never. But like you can't just be such an unserious individual. Like these are people's feelings. And it's like not cute. No, it's not cute at all. It's cute. No, and when

56:24Sierra and him were talking like he was, he was in trouble. Like and I was like glad that it's like awkward because how why are you being so foolish? Yeah. So I was glad that she let him know and isn't going to put up with that. And it was sad because she was like, why do people just look at me and like not take me seriously in a relation. They see me as like this sexual object. And I'm like, it's not people. It's it's this Bravo guy. Right. No, no, and it's like it's oxygen, western Jesse. That must be frustrating now for like multiple times in a row for it to have happened. But like what's the common denominator here? It's like duchess from reality TV. Like there are men outside who like would respect you. Yeah. So like just looking just sort of fishing in the wrong pond. You're fishing in the wrong pond. There are people who are looking for real things. And the common denominators. They are all the same guy. Yeah. Like literally like different hairstyle, same guy. Yeah, just like reality TV man children. Yeah, who are in no position to get serious? What about Kylin Amanda? Kylin Amanda were stable this episode. It was not about Kylin Amanda. And that was good. Um, I mean, I wanted to say one more thing. What?

57:25Something that's like sneaking up so soft bar. You think it's great. No, so in that episode, he's like getting that he's doing the reno on time. And he said we're going to open in five weeks. So I was like, oh, that means they're open now. There are. So I went to their Instagram. Yeah. And I feel like they have something going. Okay. Like they're do a lot of collabs with like wellness brands. They use the space for like, I see people on TikTok. And they have a coffee bar. And they do the running club and everything like they have like soft run. You know, they have a lot of going. Okay. And I feel like they're they might get it going. No, it's been going now for a while. Not just that it's up and running, but like I feel like he might have something like he's onto something with the idea. He might be. And I'm ready to eat my words. Wow. But like the or at least the way it looks on social, like it looks pretty legit. And that there is a there is a space for this. Right. Right. Wellness. You know, it's a physical location where wellness brands can activate. I can't believe those are real words, but they are. They do collaborations. Yeah. And it's a physical space where right when this brands can activate.

58:28That's beautiful. We didn't see it that way before. Oh, it's also not like how it was sold. Just saying. Yeah. Yeah. So I think he's got something off the ground. And I also think in the season, it looks like in the trailer, Bailey and Carl kiss. And I actually think they might be well suited because she is like very awkward. And she's not shy, but she's lacking confidence right now. And she's kind of quirky. And I feel like Carl's the exact same lacking confidence right now, like kind of quirky, not shy, but lacking confidence right now. I want to talk about Amanda because I'm not like actively watching the show. I keep up like through clips and through you. And I will let you know like when we get to a point where you need to watching right now you don't. But it seems like it's so interesting. There's like a trajectory on. Oh, and it's so funny. Um, you know, the cut wrote an article. Actually, I want to find it. It was a good article. Okay. Hold on. It was called I love my husband who hates me. Oh, I didn't see that. Oh, you didn't. And it talks

59:29about this sort of relationship. And they did reference Kyle and Amanda. Oh, fucking subscriber. Like God, the cut writes one good article. Like fuck off. I can't read it. It was I love my husband who hates me. So nothing inspires rage like a woman who defends her partner's bad behavior. And then an art writer from the cut reports on the phenomenon. And they have referenced a couple of people, Kyle and Amanda being one of them. And it's interesting. And I, I, I loop like Ariana Maddox into that where it's like Ariana Maddox. It's different because like Ariana Maddox ends up being like a victim in her situation. And so like when she was the victim and then got like all these opportunities and brand deals, there is this sort of like Bravo template that I feel like Ariana started. Um, where like you're like a woman scorned. And then you get, you know, magazine covers and opportunities. And you actually leave your show because you're so. And I feel like, um, you got like a ton of brand deals. She was in that duressel commercial, right? Remember, um, Uber Eats. Yeah. And now I feel like every time Amanda's on my Instagram, she's like doing an interview, um, doing a brand deal. Like it's like a million ads. Um, she's like a face of

1:00:29tropicana. I don't even saw that. Um, and it's like this sort of Ariana Maddox template. And I feel like it's not the same because like, yeah, we knew Tom Sandivall was the worst, but she really loved him. And then she ended up being wrong. So it's like, yes, she needs to be like, not even being the worst. Like, at the end of his terrible personality actually had nothing to do with it at the end. Right. Right. But she was doing this interview yesterday. And she's been like collabing all the posts. So I saw like her interview with glamor being like, I love Kyle. Like stop being mean to him, like telling the fans to like lay off. So it's like, okay. You know, yeah. Well, yeah, it's not an Ariana in time situation. Like their relationship petered out. Yeah, but this sort of like catapulting of the woman's career after the breakup. That's where it's like the Ariana Maddox pathway. Right. And also it's like, why can't we catapult women in relationships? No, it's so true. That's so funny. Like why do you have to be like single and scorned or not scorned? Like why were brands climbing from Amanda before? She's the same person. Yeah. I really want to bring up this article. It's like pissing me off. It was a really good. I

1:01:31forget who else they um, right? It's like, they're only interesting to people of your single. I don't like that because that's it feels like that's what they're saying about Amanda. And she's also saying like, Kyle do nothing wrong. Like, don't be into him. Um, so I don't know why she would have like more opportunities now and what trapecanic cares if she's single or married. Yeah, hold on. I think I found the article. I'm so interesting. Like I read articles. Actually read the headline and somebody did a TikTok like wrapping it up. You know, oh, oh, I'm sorry. Do you want to find the TikTok? I think inspired is rage like a woman who defends her partner's bad behavior. I found it. Yeah. Oh, and it was talking about Kristen Bell and Dak Shepherd because like he goes on their podcast and says like kind of weird things that he does in the context of their relationship. And she's always having to come on the podcast and be like, no, like it's funny. Like I like it. Um, Kyle and Amanda were referenced. Um, and then it's like how people make TikToks. Okay, so I saw this TikTok and it was like, um, come with me to return some clothes that like, you know, come with me to return some clothes because my husband like didn't want me to expending all the money on them. And it's

1:02:34like people make these TikToks about the terrible things that their husbands do. And then in the comments, they're like, nobody's like a great guy. Like you guys don't understand. It's like, we'll stop bringing that to us. And that's kind of like what Kyle and Amanda, it's like we watch this sort of train wreck of a relationship. And I think people got really emotionally invested in it. And then it's like over and she said, guys, he's the best. Like don't be mad at him. We're like, okay, you know what? I kind of prefer that then like the dragon one where it's like, yeah, he's terrible. It's like, but wait, you weren't with him for so long and he's been this person. He's been consistent in the way that he is. I prefer, I'm glad that she's defending him. They referenced Tom and Katie, uh, Tom Schwartz, Dominic and Drink on his literal wife on and calling her a fucking bitch. Um, I can't believe we all just watched. I know. So like, we're worried. Yeah. Well, I was young. So like, I feel like, but like, you don't like the executives who like, like, where were people? Yeah. That's insane. Yeah. So it's this weird thing of like broadcasting, like the terrible nature of your relationship. And like, we all get emotionally invested in it. It's like, but he's the best. It's like, okay. Yeah. No, there's a lot of different iterations. I feel like every couple that you just mentioned is so different. So like, yeah,

1:03:36like just say blanket statement. You should do this or you should do that. I do feel like with Kyle and Amanda, they are who they are. He didn't do any aside from like, you know, the DJing and staying out late, which is what he was doing before they got married. He didn't do anything new. Mm hmm. So like, I actually appreciate her protecting him. Yeah. It is annoying when somebody then like goes on a podcast and like says the worst things that their husband did. It's like, girl, that was your husband. No, and it's like, he was doing that. You were there for that. Like, and now you want to flip, but like, it was great at the time. And now it's bad now. I just feel like it's convenient. Yeah. Um, and if you ever loved this person, like, you should check them a little bit. Have their back a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, as opposed to like, like we said, New Year's Day, like this is the closest person in the world to you. And now they're a stranger. And beyond being a stranger, like, you're now there. What's the word? You're there up. They're up. Okay. Okay. Bestie. Yeah. Um, say less. Bestie. Say less about your bestie. She's so young. So yeah, I, I would need to sit down with about each couple because I don't think you can put them all together. Now, please send me the TikTok that really compelled you

1:04:39about. Yeah. I would. Because you did not. No, I'm so excited. You didn't make like the best case for it, but I'm open. Yeah. Um, all right. That's all for sure guys. Thank you so much for seeing to the Tesla. And I'm warning show. We're doing the fast-fi stories. You need to know every Monday through Friday and YouTube to watch us on YouTube. Please subscribe. We're gonna see you do it. We're also available as part of our podcast and we found so it's part of our adventure public area. I had a cast for the place. We'll visit my guest. We'll see fast-fi video in a real setting and wickedly talented. We are. Hope you guys have an amazing day. And we will see you when, oh, tomorrow, because we do the show every day and we love doing it. So we'll see you tomorrow. Our bitches can never. We love you. Bye. Monster energy. Everybody knows why monster zero ultra. That's the OG. It kicked off this whole zero-sugar energy drink thing. But ultra is a whole line. I'm now. You've got strawberry dreams, blue Hawaiian, sunrise, and vice guava. And they all bring the monster energy punch. So if you've been living in the white can, branch out. Ultra's got a flavor for every vibe.

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