Toast Meets World: Tuesday, September 8th, 2026

0:00Good morning, girlies, it's the TALOS. It's Jackson Claude and where you're HALOS. It's your favorite show, the fast-by-things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the toast. It sound amazing. Welcome back to the TALOS and happy Tuesday that feels like a Monday because it is the start of something new. That's right, fall is here, the toast returns, summer break ends, and Jackson Claude are back, and they're by coastal transatlantic pink frame set up, hey, Jackson, how you doing? I'm doing amazing. I seriously missed the toast so much. I did too, but more specifically, like I missed this toast. I missed, let me get specific. I missed this toast, I missed this chair, I missed this set, I missed the swirly vibes, I love swirly summer, but Sianara's swirly summer, seriously, Sianara, hello.

1:00See you never, Pargy Fall. See you never, swirly summer. Hello, Pargy Fall, we have so much to discuss obviously. I'm bursting, I do not know how people watch television and don't have a podcast. I know, you guys are the theorists. I'm just talking about it with their friends. You just keep your opinions to yourself? No, I think they like make TikToks and perhaps chat with friends, both IRL and digitally. Yeah, but I'm talking about the people who don't make TikToks because they have that outlet. We need a place to share their thoughts. We haven't even, and just this goes without saying, if you're a member of the DTQ, we will see you tomorrow. Like DTFN, Tautafer now. We haven't even discussed offline, what are we talking about today? If you're looking for in-depth analysis on Hayden Panatiar, Dolly Parton, all the big news that happened over the course of my recap of Devil Wars Prada 2. We did two pop culture episodes on our Patreon channel. John Galliano, if you really want to know our thoughts, we did really good. That's on Patreon. There are only a couple of subjects that we will be talking about again today. Meg Zit returned.

2:01Meg Zit returned. I don't care. Actually, I did say it would be the first story no matter what happened in the world. But Alex Oral is the first story. Of course she is. And Meg Zit is the second story. I'll tell you what the stories are. Just to tease everyone. But also, I know we have dancing with the stars. That's something we haven't covered yet. Yes, dancing with the stars cast this Elizabeth home documentary that just like the internet yesterday. Everybody cares so much so I felt like we had to skip that one if there's something else. Then Love Island reunion. We must have sky watch. And KJ beer men and his saturday charges. So I wanted to make sure that beer men were on the docket. Because while we are the official Megan and Harry watchdog podcast for many years, we were the beer men's old siaq watchdog podcast. And I have a lot to say. So I'm glad that we have that. And then also with the stars. We have to answer with the stars. Yeah, but you said that. So we're covered. And then also anything else that comes up along the way like it's a loose fast five. It's really just like everything that we need to discuss the major things. Where does Alex Oral like fall into the past five story?

3:03Okay, okay. Oral meets world recap. Everything that has happened with Alex Oral since we last spoke is our number one story. She's the number one girl of the moment. That was probably the hardest part of break was there being so much Alex oral news when I consider myself the official Alex or watchdog. Inflencer. However, the show came out on Friday. So like we would only be talking about it today anyway. And it gave us enough time to watch. So but like the name on everybody's lips is Alex oral. And it's kind of like a divisive polarizing show like people are really split about it. So I've been trying to see what other people think about the show. There's not a lot of places for me to do that since I'm not on tic-toc. No, and even on tic-toc. On my way on Reels. She's so beloved. And I love the show. But like she's so beloved on tic-toc people being like, give me season two now. And it's like, I'm actually looking for like critical like thought. I want to hear what people actually think not just like blind loyalty. And I feel like I've actually gotten quite a bit of that. I want to save my thoughts because I think we feel like a little bit differently.

4:03I will discuss it with you in the first story. How about that? Okay, that's going to be really hard. But in the meantime, what's going on with you? I'm back in the city. Summer in the Hamptons is over. I'm so ready to get back into my routine. Yeah. You know, like drinking my water and going to work. It's good for this all. Yes, yes. I was not drinking my water in the Hamptons. I was doing pretty good, but I crave routine. I love doing this show. And I really missed everyone and everything. And it starts to get like a little worrisome when you're not working for a while. I'm like, well, of course, like the bill is made to go. I got bills. I'm like, pitch, get back to work. Yeah, I agree. Whenever we go on break, a time comes where I do need to start generating revenue. And I did a little TikTok. Okay, ready with me. So apologies if you've seen me on already talking about this on TikTok because I'm so big on TikTok. I do like going on break for multi reasons. Obviously, you know, not having to send alarm. Even though I wake up at six every day is ideal.

5:04But I do feel like sometimes we get to points where it's like we're on the verge of getting like stale. And people like, I can always sense in the comments like when shit turns snarky. And like, you know what? I need everyone to miss me a little bit. I feel like I was getting a lot of hate in swerly summer. Maybe it's because I just looked so ugly. Yeah. That it's like easy to hate an ugly person. Of course, even though I would have loved some like sympathy. Now that I'm back to being gorgeous, like I'm ready for people to start liking me again. Yes. Yeah, you do reach a point of like potential burnout. So always good to have time off. But now like I do feel sufficiently ready. And yes, I shared this on the page. I'm going to get some you're not a patron. You're like, you knew how s what I moved over the break. I am in a new house. I'm so excited. So that's really what I've been doing the last two weeks. And so even though we've been on break from work, honestly, the break couldn't have come in a better time. Because I don't know how I could have like done everything. Done all of it. Done all of it. And working. So I have just been like tirelessly working on the new house decorating, unpacking everything. It's been so much fun. It's like, it's so exciting. Change is so exciting. Couldn't agree less. I know. But I'm excited to like share more like house stuff and everything, but I've just been getting everything in order.

6:09In order. Yeah, we needed the break. I know I was really upset, which I loved. Loved to see people just like having miserable time without us. But we needed the break for the mind body soul. Yes, she needed to move. Yeah, I needed to lay down. Like we had to do what we had to do. We had to do what we had to do. We had to do what we had to do. We had to do what we had to do. But now we're back. And just something that's going on with me that I want to share with everyone also because I'm asking for medical advice. Is I have had a teary eyes for the last two weeks since I got back to Florida. And you'll see the whole episode. I'm going to be wiping tears from my eye. I'm not upset. She's obviously emotional. I'm not upset. I have constant watery teary eyes. I've tried eye drops. I thought it was allergies. I tried zirtec, which made me feel like shit. So I'm not taking that anymore. I'm not taking that anymore. And have you tried a doctor? No, that's next. Okay. That will be next. It's a hot cast. It's a hot cast. But people said like maybe like the dry conditions here. I don't know what it is. It's so inconvenient all day. And now I have like dryness under my eye from constantly this and my makeup is a little watching. I'm sort of like going through it physically.

7:11Sometimes I get that with one nostril. Like it just leaks all day. It's so fucking annoying. Yeah, but that would be, you know, you have a runny nose. But it's only one nostril. No, it's both eyes, but one is definitely worse. What does a runny eye entail? And sometimes that could be sick, but it's not sick. I don't know. Maybe it's a physical manifestation of how much you miss me. It is it or someone suggested to me like it could be like my depressed emotions. Oh my god. I think the type of doctor you need to go to is a psychologist. A therapist. He can't feed a person through that. No, I'm I'm not going to do that. No, I maybe you can make that case at another point in time, but like I'm thrilled to bits. The toes. Mr. Douse maybe like the I thought oh so first that was my first. Like the pain. I'm allergic to my new house, the pain and the fumes and the dust. I got air purifiers in every room. We had HVAC come out and chat. She be T said to me like if you spend a few hours outside of the house and it's like better in those hours, then it's the house. And it's not better in those hours.

8:11So it's not the house. I'm not allergic to my house. Thankfully. Chatsy be tea is like really taking over I went into a bakery. Yeah, that's right because they had frozen yogurt, and they had like all these menus it's a new bakery. So like they had like lots of signage and like you could just tell it was all made on Chat G.B. T. Like it has that chat gena Sayfra. Everything does every flyer. Yeah. It's so cheap like it kind of makes me like never. Never one to take in everything is like so clearly chat. I actually feel like you could tell I had a good summer because like I didn't really use chat G.B.T. a lot. Oh, I did. In the spring, I was chatting with chat every minute of every day, just like a million questions. And I feel like it's sort of like I've left my therapist. Like I just didn't really need you. And by the way, speaking of, speak something, we haven't even discussed. The new year is upon us, my sister. Rosh Hashanna. And, you know I'm keep quiet. Yes, so as you guys know, and thankfully, this worked out really nicely for the Toasters.

9:11Rosh Hashanna is this week. It's actually this weekend. So there's no days off from the Toasters. Don't worry, it's literally Friday Saturday Sunday. And then you keep on, it's a short, like 10 days later. So just know like while you guys are out here living your best life, like we are suffering. Yeah, but first we celebrate the new year, the Jewish New Year's Rosh Hashanna. That's this weekend really. So knock up on us. But it's kind of the perfect time because today does feel like a new year, like a Jan one. Everyone's back at work. The summer's over. Like we're transitioning to fall. I'm wearing my cashmere pants, even though it's 80 degrees outside. It does have that new year new me resolution, Arivon. Yes, it really does. What are your resolutions? Such a good question. And as you know, I don't really believe in resolutions because I'm constantly working on myself. And I don't need like, I completely agree. So I'm like I'm like I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm a dormant. It's time it issues like dormant, I'm like, with a better till Jan one. If I'm being serious for the Jewish New Year, I feel that as you guys know, for the last, I haven't even really bragged about it. And I think that I should, like I've become like a little bit more, you know, observant. I've stopped using my phone on the Sabbath.

10:12And I've really been enjoying it. I'd like to continue in that upward direction. You know, maybe take on some new, some new observancies. Hmm. You know, that's beautiful. Yeah. Always just walking hand in hand with the Lord. Yeah. That's beautiful. That's one of my resolutions. What about you? That's beautiful, coderial. What would be my, I guess, different from a Jan one resolution, I would say. Yeah, Jan one is like more mindful wellness, where I feel that like spiritually, in the inner work, can start on the Jewish New Year. You know what, this was something I felt before the summer and I feel like it'll come back now that I'm home because like just summer scheduling was different, but it's just like this, this wanting to feel present. Mm. Like I feel like just, everything is flying by. I know. Like you just gotta, it's slipping, like you just wanna hold on to it. So I've been through my fingers all the time. And actually something that I was thinking about doing that then I saw Liz Woods actually said the same thing. So like it's obviously a very like real feeling

11:14of just like wanting to remember all of this and like enjoy it and process it is journaling. Okay, ready? I think that if I started journaling and just like at the end of the day, every few days just like wrote down like what happened, little milestones that were reached by the kids and just like how I felt and what we're doing, like I feel like it would help me like process within myself that these things happen today. So I'm actually gonna send you a link because I got this baby book that somebody recommended. I wasn't sure what a baby book was and what showed up first of all, it's so cute. Like the outside it has like whatever the name and it's all stitch. And then inside it's like literally a journal and then it realized it's like the first five years. Soon you're supposed, I just thought it was supposed to be like pictures in the sonogram and just like a baby. And I started to fill it out. And honestly the questions were so in-depth. I was seriously like skipping them. They were like and my mom felt blank. And I don't know, like, yeah, like that's so much. No, no, but it's not. It actually sounds exactly like what you need because it's like year one, year two, year three, year four. And it's just like things that you wanna remember and you can put pictures. It's really sweet, but it's like seriously

12:15for somebody who has so much time. Like I closed it on page three. I'm like at first it was like birth weight. Okay, seven pounds, two, that's it. Yeah. Then they were asking me like, and the first time I ate a snack I was like, I don't know. I don't know. I'll check it out, but maybe not that, but just like something to just feel like, not like floating like, you know, through light. Grounded. And like you need to meditate. I don't, I guess it's the similar thing, but I feel like just for me, I'm more of a writer. Like I think I would enjoy the process. Would you say you're a writer girl? No, no I wouldn't because I think that that connotes, you know, that that's your profession. And of course, she had a ghost writer. Oh, gosh. I actually don't think Carol Radswell has a ghost writer. If anyone was wondering like my take on the situation. Yeah, no, I don't need to. So anyways, I think just like working on being present, and I think journaling is just like an easy fix for that. Like very, you know, I'm sorry. I can't, but I know you're so mad. I can't podcast and like own a business with somebody who journals, sorry. And that's on like a threat or like a negative thing

13:17to people who do journal. As you guys know, like it's actually I actually think if anybody in the world needs to journal, it's you really? Yeah, but you can't. I don't want to remember anything. Oh, sure, for the memory of it all, for sure. But I think that like it's an expression of feelings. And I feel as though I'm extremely expressive. Like I have many outlets to express, of course, my podcast. I have many like important relationships in my life where I feel comfortable to share. Oh, no, it's not. For me it's not about expression of feelings. It's about like yours is more of like a time capsule. Yes. Yes, but also like in the moment, like I think just writing it down, even if I never read it, just writing it down will make it like except journals are like often admissible in court. Do you know what I mean? Like Lindsay Clancy's notes. Which is she have notes? And then they were just talking about Fauci's journal. Like it's humiliating. Like those are your innermost thoughts. And for some reason, they're like allowed to be used as evidence. And to be honest, no, that's reason enough for me to just not be present in my own life.

14:17Right? I'm not doing it. It's like a physical, like no, it's my brain. Buck off. Honestly, it should be a protected class. Like you should not be allowed to be in some external. Unless the person, unless the person submits it. Like here, read my journal. Maybe that's what was happening. Prove my state of mind. No, like I often find that journals are like being discussed in media and in the dark. So like high profile cases, nightmare fuel. Nightmare fuel. So no, I will not be journaling. Yeah, that's okay. I'm off the idea. TV is about to like ramp up. I think Roni is this week. I'm not going to watch it because anytime I've like gotten caught up in the new Roni, I like regret it. If there's a lot of chatter about it, I will pick it back up. Dancing with the stars. Yes. So I'm just, I'm excited to be back into my TV routine as well. Like my nights mean so much to me now. Do you know what I mean? Like when the other night, Ben, like took a two-hour phone call at 8 o'clock and he gets in bed, I'm like, do you understand? If we don't have our nights, we don't have anything.

15:17Like our nights are our shared time, our alone time. And yes, we just like watch TV, but like we're cracking up. We're communicating through the TV. Like so would you say like all day you're looking forward to cracking up? No, I would say all day like I am cracking up. Oh, but you say that night you crack up. Another thing going on in media that I just want to like put my, like stick my flag and I just want everyone to know like I am watching the US open. Pretty much all day every day. I know everything that's going on. I really am obsessed with it. Are you familiar with like the discourse going on about the influencers? I heard about it. They were like with ring lights and. Yeah, and so I feel that there's a discussion to be had about like the behavior at the US open and it's all being pinned on the influencers, which is not fair because people, you know, New Yorkers, it's like, tennis is very international sports. So yeah, Wimbledon is like very classy. It's a quiet sport. We're American. It's just like that's kind of anti-American. It's anti-American. So I think that like a lot of the rallyness, especially like it's a gray goose sponsored event. They say that like over a million honeydews is get drank this entire tournament.

16:19So it's like, I think Americans are just having a hard time adjusting to the tennis culture and they're like pinning. They don't have a conversation about that. They're pinning it all on the influencers. It's like really sad. I don't think it's all their fault. Not the influencers. I don't think it's all their fault. And of course, like I saw the girl with the ring light. Well, maybe that's like the price of free tickets, you know, because everybody else there has paid for their ticket and like sure you get to go for free, but we're everyone's good. If anything goes wrong, it's your fault. I think it's like a fair trade. If anyone wants to know who I'm rooting for, like just in general, page Paul. No, he just got out. Oh, he did. Yeah, he played Alcaraz, which is just like not fair. I saw a couple of really good points from him, like on. Yes. No, he played great. He should be really proud of himself. Page looked amazing. I was tuning in mostly for her. And he lost to Alcaraz. Like there's no shame in losing to the best player in the world, literally. For the men, I'm rooting for Ben Shelton, my boyfriend. Oh, and I just had such an interesting fact. He's a girlfriend and they like can't get over it because he's like this young hot thing. They show her the entire time. And of course, she's like a very accomplished women's soccer player.

17:21And then I found out her name is Trinity Rodman. Do you know who her dad is? Yeah, tennis or admin's daughter. You knew that? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. So like NEPO, but like not really, she says like they do not have a relationship. Um, that's nice. So I'm sorry. I want Ben Shelton to win. I just want to say. And I also found out that like the number one player in the world's bear of, um, like he beats up his girlfriend all the time. So and the tennis association like won't do anything about it. So obviously not ready for him. And actually in protest last night, I watched a women's match and then I turned off. Like I wanted them to know like you lost my rating. They definitely saw women beaters on there. Nielsen made a note. And then for the women, I'm rooting for Jess Pagula. Me too. Her parents own the Buffalo Bills. Like she's a billionaire and she could have just like coasted because if that's me, like I'm not doing anything. Like obviously. Um, no. And she's like decided to do something that's like a meritocracy. Like you have to be the best. You can't like NEPO year by. Obviously she grew up with great coaches or whatever. Um, and I just think that's cool. I think Coco Gough will win, but I'm happy for Jess Pagula if she does too.

18:23So yeah, I'm just like, I'm so not like other girls. I know everything about sports. And if you want to talk about the US Open, like just now, I'm available. That's great. So we went to the Marlins game yesterday. I saw the Marlins played the meds. So it felt like the one we should go to the whole family was like split, but we were also rooting for both, you know, like match shirts, Marlin. But you are wearing met. I'm sorry. Like you, you, you can't. Like you have to be wearing New York. Well, we were all the meds scare that we owned and then we needed more gear and there was only Marlin's gear to have. Oh, right. So we bought Marlin's gear. We really like we're rooting for both. You know, I was happy. I went anytime someone scored. Um, it was really amazing. The Miami Marlins stadium is indoors and air condition. Heaven, my air condition. It was cold. I was chilly. Jackie, you need to go to a Savannah Banana's game. Like I think that your family would love that. But aren't they in Savannah? No, they travel. Oh, they travel. They play like the minor league Florida team. Yeah. Yeah, we should. You do. Do they have a Nana's thing when they travel?

19:25That's a good question. Do they? Do the other like stadiums have the acoustics? Actually, I'm not sure about that. I think so. I think so. Well, it was our first time taking the kids to a major league basketball baseball game and it was amazing. I'm sure. And they had kosher hot dogs. So cute. It was allies. Yeah, it was so much allyship. Yeah, allyship. Allyship. And then the Metz. Like Mike Piazza wasn't there. Unfortunately, he was not playing. Mike Piazza. But I bet it's soon. I think they're actually more Metz fans than Marlins fans in the stadium. I'm honestly. Of course. So many. It's all transplants. It really is. But it was a great day. Go Marlins. A baseball game is a nice way to spend the day. Especially air condition stadium. And it's cute that Miami Marlins and the Miami Dolphins. You know, why? Because they're both fish. And then what about the Panthers? They're not involved in the Florida sharks.

20:27No. More marine life. Yeah, that's cute. I don't know. Marlins. Just like not giving cool. Yeah. They have some work to do in like the cool department. Don't you find like Marlins? If you animals like you just have on the merch shop, like it's a mess. Like the branding is a mess. Yeah, that's where I feel like you're because every other colors are. They always do like, they do like kiss collabs and Ralph Lauren. Like all their merch is like sick. No, and like they have so many different logos and colors. And like the Marlins color like should be that teal color. And they sort of like straight away from that. They have like a lot of like like 305 like. It's like pink and black. Like they don't know what they're doing. I hate pink and black as a color combo. No, me too. They need to bring in a branding expert. Other than that, we have an amazing time. That's great. At Lone Depot Park. Lone Depot? Or Homo. Lone Depot. Lone Depot. L-O-A-N. Oh, like a bank. Yeah, I wear a depot for a long time. It's giving like crypto.com arena.

21:27It is honestly Lone Depot Park makes crypto.com arena. It's sound normal. Well, what's weird is that like when they came up with crypto.org arena, we were all like, what the heck is going on? Now it's like not that crazy. No, I'm going to crypto arena. Like that's not weird. Lone Depot is weird. It's just weird when it replaces like a legacy story. It was the staple center. Like it's been in every movie. Like it's not going to catch on. But also like the staples have any money. No, it's a sign of the time. It is like staples in store shopping for school supplies. Go and over to crypto. Yeah. Now I think we should dive in. I know. I know. I can only not talk about Alex really and Dally. I know. But I can Dilly and Dally with you all day long. Of course. Of course. We have literally all day everyday to Dilly and Dally. Like because the other Dilly Dally is over. You know what I mean? Exactly. So without further ado, it is time for the fast-sized stories that yet it do need to know. And the fast-fived stories that you need to know are brought to you by Starbucks. And the Starbucks Frappuccino drinks, which are a perfect delicious blend of indulgence and coffee that puts your day on the right track.

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28:34offers ballot for limited time, terms and conditions may apply. Thank you, Terz and conditions. Let's dive into Earl Meets World. Earl Meets World, eight episode series dropped on Friday. Alex Earl is sharing her family, her feuds, her friends. So let's talk about it in stages. I wanna talk about the show and they'll of course, we have to talk about like Alex Cooper. The bits and the bops, yeah. So the show was really not what I expected and overall I really enjoyed it. I love Alex and I will say, probably my biggest takeaway was that like the family and the family dynamic is actually not at all what I thought. You guys know, people always say like, like, let me stop talking about Ashley Dupree. Like I can't, it is the craziest thing ever and the fact that they have this blended family and that the mom is always with them. It's so beautiful. It's like not really what I thought it was. It actually makes me feel better. It's like a little bit more human because, no, there's a lot of weird dynamics under the surface and on the surface. And even watching, I feel like they probably noticed things that maybe they didn't, they have said that like the show

29:35was actually really good for their family. Because they're forced to like that conversation that Alex and Ashley had an aspen, they would have never had if there weren't cameras and they would have just like swept it under the rug and like kept on moving forward. Yeah, and I just feel like my opinion on a lot of people before and after the show is so different. Like Ashley, I actually think for me and I've seen mixed reviews like her QScore went up for me. Yeah, obviously like we have what she did was bad. Like we can't even, whatever. But like hearing her talk about it, just like being a young girl trying to, like you can, it humanized it a little bit. And I think that she's like ate a lot of shit for many years. And then also my opinion of her dad is like, he's not who I thought he was. I know you had such like high expectations for him. I thought he was like this real like protector and real genius and like the second he swooped in to start managing her things got better. But she said on the show and then she clarified again on TikTok that like he has managed her the whole time. So he was involved in the Alex Cooper deal. And I've always thought that like whoever encouraged sure to do the Alex Cooper deal, like seriously he's not smart.

30:36And it turns out that was him. So he, and then he made like a lot of like weird comments like buying her boobs and seeing the girls nude photos. And he's obviously just like kind of like weird, like Jersey dad, like I don't know. He's just not at all what I thought he was. He's not the man you thought he was. No, and maybe I put too much pressure on him, but like you did. I just feel like by opinion and even Alex, like I feel like I only know her from TikTok and social media and she's like so. As far as it looks to me like out there, right? Like almost extroverted and she's like snarky and she does like fun content and party. And the girl we saw in the show was like so emotional and so serious and like really took her business so seriously. So I just feel like everything I thought I knew about the girls, even the mom. I thought oh, the mom is so healed. The mom is so grown. No, she's just one of us. No, no, she's not over it. So I think my expectations going in were like a little bit different because I only follow Alex on Instagram and she doesn't share as much as she does on TikTok. So who she was on the show was like really who I thought she was and I just want to say I thought the show was amazing, amazing. And I watch a lot of reality TV.

31:37In fact, it's like the only thing I watch these days and it has started to feel like we've gotten to a place where people like don't know how to make reality TV anymore. Like every show like starts and stops and doesn't do what it's supposed to do. And I thought this show was so great because it was like Alex and her family are just living their life and there's cameras. They're going to ask them regardless if there's cameras or not, they're going to Wellington for a Penelope show. Like they're just, they do so many things. She's at a stage in her life where she's like right for a reality show because they're just so busy. And I feel like sometimes when people are like parents or whatever, like your home all day, there's not, we're not going out. And if we are, we're doing it like for the show. And what's funny is she actually went on therapist and she said she was like for the next season, I actually might do it differently. Like this season, we just scheduled our lives and had cameras follow us. But like next season, I think I might carve out three months and like film. And I think that would be such a mistake. That's when you get to a place of like people are going on trips for the show, going out to dinner, making parties like for the show and everything just feels like a fake world.

32:38Whereas I can't remember the last time we just like followed someone with cameras and she was just doing the same thing that she would do with or without cameras. So that's so funny because I feel like one of my biggest criticisms of just the production was that like, this is a girl who is invited to seriously, like only the upper echelon coolest events ever. And I feel like we didn't really see that. We kept seeing her like recapping those events. And like we saw her and asked and go to fashion week. I mean, see them at one singular party or fashion show. And I know obviously like getting your credentials to get your camera crew to the Chanel show is not easy. But like when they were in Paris, they just like walked through the park. Like yes, and you said that to me. I that was one of your criticisms like before I watched the episode when I watched the episode. It didn't bother me at all. You want to know why? Because Paris wasn't a whole episode. It was 15 minutes within an episode. And it's like, okay, so they showed us some of the social media content of them in Paris. And now they're in a park talking about it. And then we're moving on. Like other shows they would make Paris a three episode arc. And that's what I liked about this. It's just like we're moving.

33:39We're grooving. We're doing things. We're not like, it's not like the big trip to Wellington. Yeah. Like everything just like was very fast paced. The way that her life is. And I thought it was so enjoyable to watch. Because it felt like we're really just flies on the wall of her life. Yes, it just felt a lot of the time. Like they were recapping like the stuff, the viral stuff. Like the things we would want to see behind the scenes. Like take us with you. Like I would like to go. I guess. But then I saw like they went to the club in Aspen. Right. And that was like you saw that she could film there. Because that was palm tree. And like that's her, like she's in business with them. So obviously like they let her film. Yeah. And then I saw a girl had posted on TikTok. I was at Alex Earl filming at that snow lodge, I think. Yeah. And the amount of space that a camera crew takes up is a lot. I don't expect that like parties and fashion shows are going to let them in. I think she did as good of a job as anyone could do. Like making us feel like we are there. There were so many things that I liked about the show. And again, I think it's like different expectations. Because I don't know her as well as you do.

34:41But like all the brax and stuff felt so like heart felt. And so I was so surprised at her. I think the people were people used for her. It's like she's so authentic. She's so genuine. She's so relatable. And those things are true. But I also found her to be like so earnest. Jackie, when she got her bra, I had two results. And the first thing she said is like, I know you guys are going to kill me. But like in moments like this, I just like wish I could talk to Brax. And like I actually felt so upset for her. Like for so long, that's such an honest thing to say. Like, and I know what she means. She means like, she wants like a partner. Like there's so much going on in her life. Good and bad. And like you need someone. Like it's not that you need a man. It's like to share your life with someone. The good parts and the hard parts is such a blessing. So to have that and then to go to not having it. Like I totally understood what she was saying. I just couldn't believe she said it out loud. It's tough. Even with Rayal, like she wanted to share her wins with him too. And so the whole show, like and most people would not put all of that on the show because they would one not want the other person. You want to act like you're moved on and over it and cool. And to like you, it's embarrassing to like always

35:43be talking about. And you think maybe it's even boring. Oh, everything that happens and I'm still talking about Braxton. I found it to just be like so earnest and honest. And I don't think most people would do that in the final scene, which I think has everyone shook. I was shook because the amount of maturity that it took for her to just call him up. And I think it's also confidence because she's so gorgeous that like you could just call anyone and be like, I still like you. But just emotional maturity to be like, I still hold out hope that we could get back together. Like, can you tell me if that's possible? And she said it like with a straight face on camera, bearing her heart and soul to the world. So I agree with you. Like the honesty and the confidence that it takes. But the question she was asking was actually not mature. And it really pissed me off because like you literally said to him, like, is it, oh, I don't want to get back together right now. But it's a possibility in the future, basically being like, wait for me because I think he's really ready to settle down. And she's just not. And I found the question to be like really unfair to Braxton, especially after like they didn't really show this so much in the show,

36:45but there was a lot in the press about like Alex being spotted with guys, the F1 driver, of course, Tom Brady. So it's like after putting Braxton through all of that, now you're asking, like, can we get back together? But like only when I'm ready. I'm like, not yet. I found that question actually annoying for Braxton. I guess, no, but she's just like, I think for her, she needs this period of growth and self discovery. And I think for her, she hopes that once she grows into that person, like she can be with Braxton and it's like, you can get into that person with Braxton. Should I and she's just asking him, like, should I not even be thinking that? Like I think that's just very, maybe it's not a fair question to ask, but it's real. It's real. But it is unfair to Braxton. And it's like, should I forget you or should I be healing faster? So that's what I feel like the show was proof that it's so much better to be broken up with than to be the person who broke up because Braxton had really no choice but to move on. And I feel like he did and he just like picked himself up by his bootstraps. Whereas Alex was sort of left with the questioning of like, was that the right decision? When it's out of your control, like you almost, you have no choice but to accept it.

37:47But when you were the one who did it, like you just go back over and honestly, I wouldn't so much rather have been Braxton in that situation than be Alex. Yes, of course. And also, like I'm really happy for Braxton because when him and Alex got together, like he was the butt of every joke for a period like, what kind of name is Braxton? Like when he left Sofia Colbo and started dating Alex or all and no one thought he was good enough for her. And like this show is just amazing for him. Yeah. Like except like I loved that they left us on the clip hanger of like, oh, well, maybe they're together right now or whatever. And then over the weekend, there was like some drama that pretty much like, they're not together and like vibes are bad because he was spotted out with this girl Maggie who is the ex girlfriend of the F1 driver that Alex was spotted out within London. And she's like making snarky tic-tocs now like copying Alex. Honestly, the girl McGee, McGee, the girl is so pretty. I don't know her. She's obviously like a European social. Like I don't know her. She's a pretty scurly I've ever seen in my life. And it's weird to see somebody so cool and pretty like acting like such a loser. Like why are you coming for Alex or all like going out with your ex-boyfriends, new girlfriend's ex-boyfriend is like such a jealous, like not cool thing to do. And she looks so cool to me.

38:49But you know, but like what if they're actually like a good match because I feel like Braxton is mature. He's not just like doing petitions like this and maybe like him and McGee. Like if and it's like if if Alex likes Braxton and Alex likes London and it was me and me and like Alex then then Braxton will like McGee. Yeah, no for sure. Like that's like Shanae Twain, you know, when you swap husbands. Yes. She's so pretty. I just like need to stop like the tic-tac she made copying Alex. Like I did not like that. But also like even the scene in Aspen where she reads the DuMua siding about Braxton and Olivia Jamie like most people would not show that. They would not like and the fact that Olivia Jade's just like name on the show and Alex admitting that she has stalked every single person that Braxton has been spotted to talk into like it's just so honest. Yeah. And like and almost like shameless in the way that you need to be shameless to be interesting on reality TV without exploiting yourself. And I don't felt like I don't feel like she did that. I agree. I think that what's commendable about the show is that they're obviously this family

39:50with like not secrets but like skeletons and just like embarrassing things. Everyone has it. And I think that a lot of people in the spirit of becoming rich and famous. Would exploit all that. And because I think maybe they are independently wealthy like they're not that desperate. So we'll make a show and we'll talk about stuff. But we're not willing to throw each other under the bus. We're not willing to exploit our family history. And I feel like even the embarrassing parts like of course T.J. Oh, you know what else really pissed me off about T.J. Is that like all of this is his fault, right? He's the one. Yes, Ashley was young and she knew what she was. And then it's left for the way man to clean it up. She knew what she was doing was wrong. But like he was the one who was married with kids like this whole thing. This whole dynamic is 100, fine, 99.9% T.J. is false, 1% Ashley's fault. And all they're infighting all the interpersonal issues are his thoughts. And he's like, well, you need to talk to Ashley. It's like, well, you need to talk to Ashley like this is all his thoughts. And he literally leaves the room for the girls to work it out. And I feel like one of the biggest issues in their dynamic is that, of course, I can remember the mom's name.

40:50Alyssa, she does her best to like, you know, be co-pacetic. And there's only so much she can do because the girls are so close with the stepkids. The kids. So she does what she can. But like any time Ashton and Alex have a problem with Ashley, they go to their mom. So of course, the mom who already has tons of reason to hate Ashley is now like, yeah, I hate her even more. But then I think the girls have this like really genuine relationship with Ashley. And they have a desire to work it out and they do work it out. And so Alyssa's just like standing left there with like the pile of problems. Only the hatred. But they're also not going to go to her with the things that they like about. Because that's also offensive. And that's just the truth of the situation and that's real. And so seeing it play out, it's like, oh, well, of course, they're not like so harmoniously. And you know what I was relieved to see that they had issues because it was, when I, what I thought it was, it's not normal. It's not. And I, yeah, it's not. I also think that Alex and this show and this family, like because she comes from Wells, I think that, you know, a lot of times, and I feel like when I think about like the demiliosis or just like other shows and other like childs,

41:52who like bring their family up, it like become as very unhealthy because it's like the minute you stop working, we're all screwed. If you get in trouble, like we could all be screwed. Even if it's like, we take a trip, you pay for the whole trip. We're going to kiss your ass because of course you paid for the trip. I think the fact that it, that her family has money and they could take this or not take it makes it just a much healthier dynamic because they're not like so desperate. Even when they went to Wellington, they're all staying in a house. Like, I don't think Alex paid for the house because if she had, like, it would just would have been all the conversations would have been so different. It's so different. And I feel like people are comparing them to the Kardashians a lot, which I think is a really good comparison. I think Alex is on to be the next Kim. I really do. And I think a huge part of that is also the Kardashians had money. She was desperate to be famous, but not desperate on the balls of her ass. To pay her bills and her whole family is like, go and sell yourself or else we're on the streets. And so I think watching them be on a show together, just like be in this business together. There's just like a level of desperation that's not there that can sometimes be unhealthy

42:54for families. 1000% then being rich is like probably one of the best things to happen to them for a million reasons. Like when they took the private plane to Aspen, it's like, it's not, it's not for sure that Alex paid for. No, I feel like Sip Marks would probably paid for it because that was like a big Sip Marks. Yeah, I'm sure like someone paid for it, but it's not like everything. Every house is on Alex pay for it's on her back. She feels like her family's indebted to her. They feel like they can't say anything to her because they can say what they say to her. They're scared of her. No, no one's scared of her. I do feel like when it comes to the Kardashian comparisons, like a lot of the siblings have lots of personalities and I'm sure as they get older, like maybe they'll continue to be like Kendall Kylie. Like Kendall Kylie in the first season, we're just like, since you know, little kids. Like Kendall and Kylie are Isabelle and Penelope. Penelope is the Kylie Isabelle is the Kendall. I feel that Ashton. Like, I just found some of her stuff a little boring, which isn't a crime. They really sort of ruined Ashton for me. I wasn't really noticing her. Well, I feel like they're trying to make it like Earl girls, like the sisters.

43:56Like, it's really not the Alex show. I feel like Ashton had just as much screen time as Alex did. And I just found the scenes a little less compelling. Like, I want a model. Like, okay. But I love her and I feel like the person I follow her is like, I feel like who she is online. It's like much more interesting. It's like a nerves thing or just like it's not translating. I just found a lot of it like boring, like the dating stuff. I don't know why I just found. Oh, yeah. She keeps saying the same thing. She's sort of just like Debbie down her. I wasn't noticing her, reminding her at all. And then like you, you, you, you made me notice in mind. And then also I watched a bit of therapist with Jake Shane and I found her presence to be like really disruptive to the episode, honestly. However, in searching for what people think about the show, I'm seeing a lot of love for Ashly and I'm happy for her. And I don't even like want to like say I didn't like. No, I think she's very Gen Z and like maybe that's just not us. And like just the vibes are different. And what's so funny is like, Alex is obviously like my favorite on the show because she's the star of the show and she's such a queen.

44:57I can look at her. Yeah. But like weirdly, I really to Ashley, I'm an Ashley, a mother of three. Oh, interesting. And also Ashley, I, I really like Ashley and I do. So do I. I think that's a very unpopular opinion because when I was seeing, I saw a lot of love for Ashly and a lot of like dislike for Ashly. I was like impressed by Ashley. First of all, the way she navigates this dynamic is Queenie. I agree. Trying to blend a family of like people who hate her and like never giving up even when the girls are sticking to the face. Agreed. She is Meredith Blake growing up. I completely agree. She for me had the most increase in a Q score since watching. And then when it comes to like the things that she says and the advice that she gives the girls, I find her to be very sensible. It's the same sort of advice I would give personally. And maybe you disagree with Ashley and the things that she says personally, personally, I don't. I think her insistence that the girls care less about what people say. Yeah, continue to do what they think is right and not like live with this pressure and and just like the weight of the world crashing down and you like that is my mentality as

45:59well. And I found she was a woman with good sense. Yeah. And I like a woman with good sense. I actually think that the girls can aside from the things she did when she was funny. Of course. I feel like the girls can sense that in her and I think she really understands their world. Like she's also becoming like her own little influencer, but she's just younger. So I think she gets it. I think the girls are actually like naturally attracted to her. And that makes it like even more unfortunate for the mom because I feel like the mom's sort of detached. Anytime they're having like conversations about business, unless it was the big Alex Cooper conversation at the end, but like they go to Ashley and TJ and it's not just TJ. Like Ashley's in the room. I think that they really respect her opinion, which I just think makes the dynamic even harder for the mom to like be involved. The dynamic is set up just not to benefit Alyssa. And that's so unfortunate because she's the injured party. Yes. But it's like, yeah, true. Ashley should be able to go on vacation with after 17 years with her whole family, including the stepkids, Ashley and Alex and not have TJ and Alyssa come. But it's like, excuse me, those are my kids too. So it's just it's really unfortunate for Alyssa. Yeah. Like you crashed this party like this is your pen and so most.

47:01But it's also like it's also Ashley's first time on earth. This is her family. These are her children. Like she wants to have a somewhat of a some normal family experiences. But I guess that's like what you get when you are with a married man. And he is correct. Overall, I think the show was great. And I think it was so good for Alex. Like I think she's a great role model. And I think now we can talk about Alex Cooper. I think to see her like go through the Genesis when she said like she might my heart broke in a million pieces when she was like, my kids are going to see that talking about that. That was just like such a matured. I have like such a mature thing to say. And I think that it's actually really good because obviously she's like sexy and whatever. But like I think that she as she's growing up is becoming a little bit more conscious of like her digital footprint. And I think she's a really good role model for young girls. And yeah, the brat like the honesty everything she showed us was just I think setting a really good example for young girls. Yeah. And so we can get into the Alex Cooper stuff now going into the show everyone was like the show is going to be where she sets it all right. And it was funny to see how she sort of was like just like mad and kicking herself

48:05that the thing got so big. No, as you know, everyone was like Alex is being so strategic. So I love what she's doing. I love there was no strategy. She was just like, should I not strategy? And the longer she didn't it made it feel like there was this big thing coming. And at the end of the day, there's not a big thing. There's not a big story or anything. It's what we said. You know, it's a bad working relationship. It's just you know, two people who shouldn't have worked together. The dynamic never worked. And then personalities and clashes and insults and this and that but not like one big thing. And what the fuck was Brianna chicken fry talking about like when she says it like it was everyone around. Yeah, no, I hate Brianna chicken fry. Yeah, so I and this is what I always thought it was. So like there's nothing that's like super. Actually, I thought there was one really shocking piece of information, which was Sandra. Sandra. I love that they blurred in her mouth, but you literally could if you read lips, Sandra, like it was only one person. Oh, I didn't even read the lips when she goes, she went to someone from college.

49:05She got dirt on me. It's like, Oh, Sandra, the girl from your college that you're like not super. And I have to say I have enormous respect for Sandra because Sandra gets a lot of shit online for the ending of her friendship with Alex. Well, nobody knows what happened. People come up with theories. They say that she sent a naked picture to Braxton. They said that she punched her in the tit. Like there are all these different rumors and she just sort of lets that. And so you get an opportunity to like work with Alex Earl's number one op and you not only ignore her, but you tell Alex Earl about it. Like, if I'm Alex Earl, I'm being a lot nicer to Sandra. Yeah, she is a real one. So what happened was, you know, the relationship at Unwell was not like right for Alex. She didn't get the support that she needed. The kickstarted with the actual call her daddy episode where Alex, I didn't realize that that like we knew that it was like uncomfortable and she asked her inappropriate questions, but I the family didn't speak for three months because aside from the sex questions that happened at the end of the episode where they're like drinking all day, the beginning of the episode was like Alex's going back home. Back home. They went back home. They did like a whole, you know, deep dive into this crazy story that was like so scandalized.

50:06And I guess that was like, as she said, it was the hardest time of her life after Alex Earl went on call her daddy. And to be honest, it's all of this. Like, when it comes to it, Lix versus Lix, like I'm hard, I think team Lix, but I felt like the family in that scene was being kind of unfair to Alex Cooper. It's like they were just putting a lot of their shit on this one interview. And I don't even know what it was that Lix said in that interview that was so upsetting to the group because I thought she, they talked about it so briefly. And you could tell Alex was like uncomfortable and it was just like, we knew the story and she just kind of told it to us and she said it was hard for her. Like it wasn't that salacious. So I think that out, maybe some like, you know, online people knew that, that that was her backstory. But I don't think she's ever like told the story spoken about it. No, that was the first time. Yeah. So it was putting that out there for the first time. And then I think also it's like some, no, many people are like, well, don't be surprised that she asked like sex questions. It's the sex podcast.

51:07She was a fan of Alex Cooper. She said it was her eye. Like the Glock-Lock show. That's like what Dave Portner said, which is a good point. Like so she shouldn't have been so surprised by the sex questions. But it's like, you don't get to ask like the sex questions and also do the like Meredith Viera deep dive into the family. Like which podcast? I think that that's sort of emblematic of like Alex Cooper, like and her. When it's brand changing. Then you're just, when it's both and you're just like exploiting every aspect of a someone's personality. Yes. So on the one hand, what a lot of people are saying and I agree with is like, you said this is your idol. This is someone you love. Like it's the Glock-Lock show. Like why are we surprised that you're asked that you're being asked if you're an anal virgin? And that's why I'm like, so almost disappointed in your dad for letting you do this. Like you say he's this protector and how, how, but then on the other hand, it's not like a Glock-Lock show. I'm just like, be a fucking human being. Stop asking a 21 year old girl if she's an anal virgin. Like that's disgusting. And Fred also like, it's not the Glock-Lock show. You didn't ask Kamala if she's an anal virgin. Well, no, you have to think of the time. You have to think of the time. She was still very much like in the process of transitioning.

52:07She used to have people on more seriously to talk about like their traumas and then like, okay, and then at the end she would be like, okay, let's get into sex. Are you an anal virgin? She was like slowly transitioning like the anal out of the show. I guess. But it was a transitional period. But she had already like, found it unwell because Alex Earl was a part of she said business woman, this isn't her barst, will error. This is, you know, what year is this 20, 23? I have no idea. But she just graduated college. So maybe, maybe 22. 22? Okay. What I'm just saying, like, it's not, it is the Glock-Lock show and it's not. It was. You know, I'm sorry, like it was. And there's also a major difference between talking about your own personal sex life and talking about someone else. And I'm sorry, there's also just a difference when a girl who's younger than you who really looks up to you and who you're about to embark on a working journey with asks you to take something out of the show that was sexually made her uncomfortable and you don't do it. Sorry, you're in the wrong. I don't care what the brand of your show is. Like, she asked you to take it out and you didn't.

53:09You're like, it's funny. Like, that's just, that is predatory behavior and that's just such a bad way to start a working relationship with someone who you want to have a good relationship with. Alex was doing all these unwell events and really using Alex Earl's clout to like sell tickets and get people to show up and that's what Alex Earl was saying. Like, I felt used like she didn't look after me in the way that I thought she would. No. And it's like, yeah, she was Glock-Lock, but she was also like this girl boss, girl boss, girl boss. And you would expect like your girl boss to look out for you. Yeah. So, so that relationship goes south when Alex Earl wants to stop doing the podcast and she found out. She talked about it. She talked about it. She talked about it like more on Jake Shane. Why she like the podcast was not right for her. And it was actually she made like some really good points and she was like Jake doesn't feel this way because it's different, but like I just felt empty. I felt like I was exploiting every single aspect of my personal life for stories for tea. She said Alex Hooper even suggested that she not like get a boyfriend and date Braxton so that she would have like more to share on the show about her dating life and her sex life.

54:10And she was like dating like yeah, I'll share, but sex life, no, I'm not sharing that. Like that's a very clear obviously. Like delineation. Yeah. So, so also she's like carting around all of this equipment to Europe and everywhere. And then she goes on Jake Shane show and she sees he has a producer. She's like, who's that? She's talking to Josh Richards and Gabby in Europe. This is what she said on therapist. And they're like, wait, why are you screwing in the microphones yourself? Like, where is your help? And so she had no help, no support. She's hating doing this. She feels empty. She's running on zero. And so she doesn't want to do this show anymore. And I think it was a little bit of a back and forth about getting her show. Well, that was interesting, but she said on therapist because I remember when Alex was where Alex Cooper was responding to comments being like, Alex owns her IP. She can do whatever she wants to that. And Alex, I was like, I didn't. And then the next morning they gave it to me, like just very manipulative. Yeah, where it's like she did only, but like they had some sort of keys to it. That once, you know, it was over then they gave it back. So it ended badly. They should have never worked together. Period. But like, I think a lot of the signs were there for Alex or you can, I can fall both of them.

55:10And then they were like, oh, neither of them could be wrong. Now I'm like, you're both wrong. Yeah, a thousand percent. You're both wrong. Alex Earl is wrong for going there. Alex Earl is not. I was like, and she should have had better people working for and with her. And she said that too. She said, we have the same people working for us. I think in terms of like managers and agents. So it's like, I didn't want to make it weird. And I just felt like everybody was like telling me to do the right thing. So she's not even and made poor decision making in business. And Alex Cooper is just not. She just didn't protect Alex. And the thing is is that all of this has caused so much trouble for Alex Cooper. I think it's really affected her overall likeness very poorly. And I think that she should have, she went into the way that I see it is that she went into business with Alex Earl because she needed to have Alex Earl on the show. Like it was becoming so back then she was not doing Katie Kirk, you know, she was doing like internet, internet and Alex Earl was like the biggest thing on the internet. And she's so Alex Cooper. Like, why are you having her on the show? And it's because you know, a younger you with threatening and so it wasn't until that she could financially benefit from it that she had her on.

56:13And you know what? She should have just had her on the show. It's one fucking episode and she would have avoided all all this trouble. Because now, Alex Cooper's crime is like, she is a savage business woman. She's not here to mentor you. She's not here to hold your hand. She is here to do business and business in personal there are separate. And so that's her crime. And Alex Earl's crime is that she was naive and she was also blind. Like what Alex Cooper did to Sophia, she did in broad daylight. Like let's talk about the one is like so and her tea and her and her dad and the people who work for both of us. And she's a big sex show. And this was no secret that this is a person who was willing to throw her best friend onto the bus for business. So she thinks she's going to protect you. She's on you for five minutes and you are. And I still think I still think Alex Earl is not mad enough at the big work for both of them. Not no, her dad, I separate the people who work for both of them. She's still even after unwell. They share the same agent up until last week. And that's because Alex Cooper left the agency.

57:14Right. Right. So even when the unwell thing went south, Alex Earl said she didn't like talk about. She didn't do like a big story. She's time because they have a lot of people in common. She has said she is scared of Alex Cooper. People have told her to be scared of her. Alex Cooper has said be scared of me. And so she just sort of moved on and didn't say anything. But it was obvious to everyone that's something we are having. And she would like unwell stuff to repose. Then I think like some months go by and she gets a little brave. And she sees people on the internet like talking about the person that she hates. So she likes a little bit here. They're empowering when you see people talking negatively about the person that you hate. Right. So she starts to just engage a little bit and like just drop red crumbs. Not with the thought of like one day I'm going to tell the whole story. But like, oh yeah, I do like that. I do agree with that. Like like like like like like which is why I found when Alex Cooper was like just say it. That was such a slay because there is nothing to just say. It's vibes and it's bad dealings. But she really put her on the spot.

58:16And that's why it was like I thought when Alex Cooper made that Coachella video, people thought it was like crazy. And like what is she doing? It's like no, she's really like forcing this girl to like like you know, she's making this bigger than it is. Wait, we also have to talk about Harry Jowze getting involved. And to be honest, I actually feel like that was really bad for Alex Cooper. And if I'm Alex Cooper, I'm an invited Harry Jowze because Harry Jowze took a screenshot of that text message that Alex shared on the show that she had sent to Alex Cooper. And she didn't send it. Oh, she didn't. She wrote. No, she never said on the show that she sent it. Okay, I didn't think it was a good text. I'm glad you're that. Dave asked Dave Asalks Cooper. He did a T by the track. And he asked Alex Cooper if she ever got that text and she said no. Got it. Okay. So Harry Jowze, there were a lot of things she almost did. Apparently she made a video at Coachella like, you know, or she shot a video and didn't post it. And then in hindsight, she was such a person. Even though I feel that a lot of people tuned into the show or only it's world for this Alex Cooper drama. And I think NetNet really benefited her. And I think it was sort of in bookended the entire first episode and last episode.

59:17So she kind of needed it. So I'm actually glad that she did it the way that she did because I think I made the show a lot better. But Harry Jowze just sort of said like this is not there. You're coming for a pregnant woman. She's about to give birth. And it's like, well, I actually agree with Harry Jowze. Pregnant women are off limits. But Alex Cooper literally started this and she was pregnant. So it's like Alex Earl has every right to say her piece. And also I think it then puts into perspective for a lot of people. Harry Jowze's relationship with Alex Cooper. Because when you take a look at Unwell at a glance, like it was supposed to be this place for like female voices. And it's like Madeline Argy gone Alex Earl gone grace O'Malley like what the hell happened to her. And it's like the only person who's benefited from this has its own TV show. It's Harry Jowze. So it's like this is your girl boss girl boss. Meanwhile, she's got one friend in the industry and it's a man. Yeah, I would also say like let's marry Harry was bad for women. Agreed NetNet. I would say that was a bad show for women. So overall, I think where the internet nets out is team Alex Earl. Yeah, even though like I think people are probably

1:00:17disappointed by the overall like Alex Cooper. You know what I don't agree. And I was when I saw people saying like it's you know it's we knew what it was going to be. And it was literally what we said like she asked for things. I don't know I thought it was like actually a lot juicier. Maybe just hearing it from her lips. And coming from this like really sad kind of naive place. And the Zandra of it all, you know I fed it. So I felt I felt sufficiently fed. Oh, that's so interesting. Yeah, you know me. I'm like always complaining. I didn't think there was going to be like my expectations were pretty low. So like I didn't feel let down. But I feel like other people especially especially because we're like we do we're in this business. So like we had a pretty good sense. Yeah, probably went wrong. I think other people who thought there was like you slap me. Yeah, who are on hanging on Brianna chicken fries every last word or like what I mean, we're going to check in front of the front. What were you talking about? What was she talking about? No, no. Like because it's just you know, bits and pops like there wasn't a big thing. Skennal it was just bad.

1:01:18So so that's what happened there. And yeah, at the end of the day, if you watch the whole show like it's just not even about that. No, it's not but that is what I did for bad. I did. It was bad for Errol that she had gotten herself into this place where she had to like come back swinging. She doesn't want to take a big shot at Alex Cooper. And she doesn't want to let everyone down. But when she finally posted that like a strip pole video, which was as stupid as I thought. I agreed, you know, like and that's when she posted, I was like, wow, this girl just doesn't move in the same way that I would like I would be like goodbye. Good bye sister. Right. Right. But like here's what happened and she's just like so unserious. But it's not that she's unserious. She's just like, no, and she's just like doing it on her own. And like, you know, sometimes you're just like so frozen like with fear and pressure that like the only thing to do is nothing. Yeah. And so like that's what she's the Alex Cooper conversations are like backup. And Sophia Franklund's about to start her book tour.

1:02:19So I don't think it's getting better. I do think she's like has given birth or is like minutes from giving birth. Really? Yeah. Oh, I feel like so I just so I do like want to give grace and like lay off. But if there's a person who deserves to be heard, it's Sophia Franklund. I think Alex Cooper and Alex are all are both going to continue to be very successful. Separately, you know, it's very Taylor and Kim. Yeah. They are the Taylor and Kim. They will operate in different worlds till the end of time both having extreme success. And that's it. Yeah. You know, and oh, Sally was on the show. How funny is that for me? Like my favorite or she has a huge, it was crazy. She was working for I know. I guess like her job is that her job has been this like major mystery to people. People are like, are you an engineer? Like it's like been this big almost. It's funny. People thought she was in medical sales. And I think that's because Sally Carson from Southern chart.

1:03:21Oh, that's funny. He's in medical sales and they have a similar name. And then no, now she's probably like full time influencing. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, um, there were some really good cameos. I thought when Jake Shane was at the Russian path house, I was actually laughing so hard. He's like very naturally funny. He was just funny and they were getting like whacked. It was just. It was cute. Historical stuff. I really, really enjoyed the show. Any other people. Oh, her little siblings really stole the show. Agreed. They were, um, they're really cute. And yeah, I think see, so I'm one of these people like one season two. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm a one season two truth or. Let's dive into the remainder of the show because we still have four other topics to discuss that are brought to you by four, five or six, bowl and branch. Have you noticed your sheets slipping off the corners lately or maybe your pillows just don't feel supportive anymore? Well, most people actually don't realize that keeping their bedding way longer than they should is a thing. It slowly wears down. You don't realize how much it's affecting your sleep until you finally replace it. And the truth is most people think they need a new mattress, but they just need new bedding.

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1:09:31off your first purchase of a website or a domain. Thank you, Tert. You're welcome. The only other thing we didn't discuss is Ash and Earl linked to Landon Barker. Oh, that's like a new thing. Personally, Landon Barker is just like, it's like a blind spot for me. Like a conscious blind spot. I know him. I know Charlie. I know Cornicard Ash, I know. To me, I know everyone around him. I don't know him. I know him. And to me, like, see an artist, see his musician. I think he dabbles. Like, this means nothing to me. Like, it's just, it's an inconvenience. Yeah. Yeah, I don't love it. Me neither. Okay, our next story. But that's what I mean when I say that I think, like, Ash, she is like so Gen Z that like, she's sort of like, like, she's not for us, earliest for me. Yeah, she's not meant to be for me. Right. Like, that's why I'm like, I feel bad, but that seems obvious. She's like, checks the box for other demographics, but not us. Yes. Yes, for sure. I'm in Ashley, Max. Yeah, 1000%. You're an Alex. I feel like I'm actually like a transition. I'm such

1:10:33an Alissa. Everyone's always leading me out and it's terrible. No, actually, I'm TJ. Like, let's be real. You are. I'm TJ. I also a big storyline was Ash's like modeling career. And it was like a big storyline, but we're Ash's career, Ashlyn. And on therapist, J.J. was like, you should model. Like, I love that storyline. Like, you should absolute model. And like, he's a very good friend. I actually thought she was giving such Kendall Jenner energy. It's like, she was, but like, here's the thing. I feel like, TJ and TJ was saying like, you shouldn't and sometimes like the things that you love aren't going to make you the most money. And I feel like she very much is like that, like Amelia Gray, Bella Hadid, like, you know, sexy, dixie, Dixie, Demelia out. Like literally, it's like a trail. And I just don't think any of those girls are happy. I totally agree. And I don't think like modeling will make you happy. We'll take you away from your, you'll be in Paris. Yeah. Milan, China, like everywhere, but home. And she's a home body. And I thought TJ gave her good advice. I'd be like, don't become a model. Yeah, I actually agree. Especially when I think she's just make a lot, I think they have a lot of opportunities.

1:11:35Like so many right here at home. Right. And point. She would obviously, like, she's unbelievably gorgeous. And she's tall. I didn't like, I didn't notice like her personality trades for a while. Cause I love the way that she carries herself. I think she's like, lovely to look at. And she would be an amazing model. Like she is a model. Yes. But I don't think so. Yeah, I agree. Models are not happy people. No, they're feeling. Okay. Next, King Charles III addresses Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's Royal status after moving back to the UK. So as discussed on Patreon, they're going back to Meghan and Harry. We're not okay. Are going back to the UK. We're not okay. And I think the question remaining, like, because this is so confusing, is what does this mean for the royal family? Like do they know about it? Are they excited about it? Is this an agreed upon decision? Are they just acting rogue again and like going to be living, you know, as commerce? So we heard from King Charles in an official statement. Yes. King Charles is Lord

1:12:36Chamberlain wrote in the letter sent to multiple outlets saying their styles as his and her Royal Highness remain in abience and are not used abay. And sorry, the King has directed that the following information be shared. No, this is like, the charitable work of the Duke and Duchess is a personal matter for them both and undertaken in their private capacity. In short, their position is a kin to private citizens with commercial and charitable interests. Yeah, I think it's important that King Charles lets his subjects know, like, you're not paying for this because part of being a royal is like your taxpayer dollars subsidizing your life in some parts. And that's where I think, you know, they draw a lot of criticism from their different actions because it's like, these are the taxpayers. What are you doing? So I think he really wanted, because the public there really dislikes them. I think he wanted to sort of make sure everyone knows, like, don't worry, like, this is not official. Yes, yes. And also, like, it does feel like sort of a snub because even if this was the case, you know, sending out the letter statement to all the outlets, like, distancing

1:13:41yourself from them is crazy. So I think for people who are like, oh, they're moving back to take care of Charles in his final years, like, our very naive. However, like, if they're not to, how can they make more money in the UK than they can make here? Like, I know that the money has run out here. The opportunities have dried up. They have really squandered every relationship that they've had. What's there for them in the UK? Maybe they just think, like, time has changed. It's very clear that they don't have, like, a firm grasp on what real people think and, like, what's going on. So maybe they thought, you know, enough time has passed they probably forgotten, because if they are just, if they were aware, they would have moved to Australia, which I do think would have been really good for them. Yeah, like, I think there could be opportunities there. Yeah. And I think I honestly don't know. I actually think that there's more opportunities in America for them still than there are in the UK, like, even acting for her. They were saying that she was going to be in Guy Richie's show or whatever, but like, then no one will watch the show.

1:14:43At least in America, like, maybe people would still watch the show because Americans love suit. It's true. No, and she's a good actress. I rewatched suits and I feel like it gave me a whole, not rewatched, watch it for the first time, only a few years ago. And I feel like it gave me a whole new respect for Meghan Markle. Yeah. So I felt like she still could have acted here. I'll be very curious to see what they're doing. Like, what is the reason? Yeah. And I also think that maybe Charles's statement was meant to put to rest some of the rumors that he's like dying, you know, because that people just blamed it on him. Yeah. He's dying. They have to go back. It's his dad. But still, like, everyone's been like sick and dying. Yeah, Kate had cancer. They never came back. Kate, I can't serve the queen died. Philip died. Charles has cancer. So much has happened. So and now, like, it's actually insane that they mexited during Queen Elizabeth's reign. Like, seriously, so disrespectful. Seriously, disgusting. They're so weird. They got to me, like, for Ricky as hell. I hate people who I can't, like, understand. I don't understand, like, this decision. No, and I said this on Patreon. And what I don't understand is why it's so hard for them

1:15:46to just like act normal. Like, they didn't have to do anything. They came here so beloved. Everyone throwing money at them, throwing homes, throwing planes, and like, all you had to do was just like being normal. But instead, everybody hates like the people around them. Like, they don't have the same friends that they did. The people who worked with them don't want to work with them. Like, companies and assistants and everything. And it's like, why is it so hard for them to just like be normal? Yeah. Like, don't fuck it up. And not be like so much of a repellent. And repellent. That's what it is. People were really not, I mean, I just resurfaced the clip of Kim and Chloe on Chloe in Wonderland talking about the whole Meghan Markle thing. I'm like, you could just tell they like fucking hate her. And it's like, I think that everybody leaves an interaction with them with that bad taste in their mouth. Right. And it's like, right. So it's like, why are you giving everyone such a bad taste? Just like, say less. Do nothing. And people will just like you because like, you're so important. Yeah. And cool. And royal, whatnot.

1:16:47Royal and the royal mavericks. And so no one was mad about the mexia. Like, people like them for that. So all they had to do was just like, come here and retire. Yeah. And they couldn't do that. That's what I can't understand how you can literally repel everyone around you. Like, just with your personality. Yeah. It has to be so bad. Yeah. Can't relate. Can we will of course keep you abreast on any and all updates on the now that the closest back, we will be on every update. Like when they left, it was mexia. Mentants, like, what is it called? No, but it's a return. It would be like a return. Ritegan. Megan. Mar turn. I don't know. I like. Ritegan. I don't get it. Return. Megan. Oh, set up in the comments. If you if you could do better than Ritegan. What did the New York post you a thrown back? Oh, they also did. Our long national nightmare is over. That was so funny. Like what's what's the one right? What's the and I love a blend, mexia. I loved that.

1:17:51I'm going to the source.com award. Harke Megan. Excuse me? Like like Harry homecoming Megan. Oh, homecoming. Harke Megan. I think it could catch on. How come again? I got it. Don't don't stress. Okay, because the source.org is giving me nothing. Okay. Are you ready for our next story? Yep. Dancing with the stars, season 35 cast and prose. So we got the rest of the cast of Dancing with the stars and their partners. Are you ready? I am ready. There wasn't anyone who was like a major shock. I think Julia's style is shocking people. Oh, and she's currently like my pick for winner. Okay, we'll get into that. But so we have Sarah Miller and Brandon. We know. Branding danced with Lauren last year. Yeah. Somebody who got out early and stonk. So yeah, I think it was Lawrence because I don't know him so much. He deserves it. Upgrade and Sarah feels like a fair good choice. Yeah. I feel like they did switch. The

1:18:54Cier like the prose who got worse or people last year. Dancing with the stars. They and like always claim that like there are certain people who get and it's true. Like Mark Ballas always gets someone good so does Val. But I think they try to like switch it up with everyone as much as possible. So we have more Higgins and Mark Ballas. So cute. They know each other from traders. Oh, cute. Oh, I love that. Jackson Olson from Savannah, Benanas and Emma Slater. That's going to be fun. And she deserves like a fun dance. She did the most with the game. Yeah. So imagine what she could do with like a a young able bodied. Yeah. Then we have Whitney Carson and Guillermo, which we knew and she's pregnant and it's perfect. Literally perfect. Jenna Dewan and Val. I need them to be. Okay, but I need them to be so for real. Like this giving Heather Morris from Glee at a certain point like this show is not fair. Is she a dancer? Oh my god. She's just in a dance move. No, she was the host of you. So you think you can dance. Like she's very much in the dance world. It's not honestly, it's not as egregious as Mike

1:19:57Chen from Glee. No, he's on this season. But it's it's got people's feathers ruffled and I agree. Oh, I didn't see any of that, but she also really looks like the wife. Jenna Johnson. Yes. And they have like the same. They both start with Jay. Then we have Ezra Frecht and Dingella Karagache, who says, or I believe he's a power Olympian. Oh, cool. They always got an athlete in there. Love that. Julia Styles and Ezra Sosa. Yeah, I feel that this is a perfect pairing. As Julia Styles is like a lot of lore and pop culture as it pertains to dance, but just like of course media and jazz. And I think that like the gay pro is perfect for her. I think he will deliver on like, uh, more than I hate about you. Yeah, all the lore. Um, their tiktoks have already been like very funny. And I think he's perfect for her. And I do think she's the perfect person. She has like a little bit of background and dance,

1:20:58but she's by no means a dancer, even some of the tiktoks and she's been making them. Oh, she's like, as good as I thought, but I think she'll really improve. And it's almost like a muscle that she hasn't flexed in a while. And I think that they have potential to win. Yeah, especially because like she's older than she was when she was doing those movies. It kind of reminds me of like a lane Hendrix a little bit like she was a, like a big dancer back in the day. And now it's a muscle that she hasn't flexed in a while. Harry, Shum Jr. and Jenna Johnson, this is like legit on fair. He's actually maybe a better dancer than her. Like he is fully trained. He was like the dancer on Glee. I know he's gone on to do more stuff. But like to me, he's my trace and ad amine. He's my chain. Like this is a greechess. And so they made a tiktok of Val and his partner, which is Jenna Dewan and Jenna, Val's husband and her partner Harry. And he's just let's take forward professional answers. Honestly, like Harry Shum Jr. was like a better dancer than Val. Like it was actually you I'll show you the video. People are so upset about it and rightfully so it's just so obvious. Also, that's fun. There's a pro. And I think it might be Brit. I'm not sure

1:22:02who it is. Who's like dream partner. She's always said is Harry Shum Jr. And it's like they didn't give it to her. So people are like, there's Jenna favorite his on because Jenna and Val and Jenna always gets good people. And also like Jenna last know Jenna had Cory fell in last season. So she's really. Oh, she deserves it. It's like when you're coming last in the draft and like at the NFL first pick the draft for that's what this is. She deserves it. She wasn't even on last season. I thought she took a season. She was literally on two. But she was with Cory. Okay. And they were like beefing too. Like. I don't even know her because she was not on the show. So I think this is very fair. Me too. Jada DeLorrentis and Alan Burstin. I love this. Not your favorite. I love this. Are you going to be texting Jada every week? I'm texting Jada. She's a perfect person for it. Like I literally love this. I love like this is what dancing the stars is all about. This is dancing with the stars. She's so random. Like Jada. Okay. It's like. I know. I actually just like started. I don't know why recently like her Instagram came up for me before dancing with

1:23:06the stars. And I was just like she makes a lot of content. She makes like pargy stuff. She's always been just sort of like difficult to champion because she's so skinny and she's Italian. So always cooking like pizza and pasta and it's like girl be so for real. But not me body shaming like I'll stop. Yeah. And like judging. It's just like she's she's always been the skinniest person on food network. It just like didn't add a. It's okay. I don't know. I feel like if you're cooking like Greek food. Like okay. Greek food. Super healthy. Like a telling food is not. But and she always is like part of me. John. Reggiano. It's like you can just say Parmesan. Like I just feel like you're stereotyping. Never trust a skinny chef. That's what the kids say. Next we have Conor Wooden Riley Arnold. Connor. What is fibula? I'm an infant. First of all, like there's always a couple. Will they want they like this is them? First of all. Second of all, you'd love to see a friend of the toast out here doing big things for Marguest host. People love him. I think he'll get a lot of votes. And you'd love to see like the influencer sector being represented. Yeah. So this is our influencer for the season. Yeah. Fabio. And Tyler Cameron. I love him. Uh Tyler Cameron. But he's a reality star.

1:24:09He is like an influencer. He is with Sharna Burgess. Oh and Sharna Burgess is returning. Can you remind me I get her so confused with Ryan us? She's not. She's not. She's with Brian Austin. She now. But now she is. Megan. Megan Fox is excited. Yeah. Okay. Um and she won with Bobby Bones. She was like one of the most controversial winners of all time. Yeah. So she's with Tyler C who I think Tyler C's going to be amazing. I think anytime people are reminded of Tyler C or like he's on their televisions like everyone falls in love with him all over again. So even though he hasn't been on and he does like a she TV stuff but he hasn't been on like the bachelor in a while. So you would have thought like he's no longer eligible for dancing with the stars because it's usually like right after. I think people are going to remember like how much he's a hard drop. I love him. I do want to say and I have no proof of this. I think he's a horrendous dancer. Like I could just see him having like no rhythm. Yeah. Being very difficult to train. And this is somebody who's been like out of the game for a few years. Like I do think they will struggle. Yeah. They will. But he'll be like

1:25:13you know an improved man and he can only do so that really far just like based on his looks. Yeah. And eagerness to get better. He's seriously just so handsome. Yeah. Next we have Connerley Ovid and Adele Zeichmann. Adele Zeichmann won Dancing with the Stars the next pro which was their you know Grylley project style show this summer where they saw it to find the next pro and I've seen clips of her and it seems like it was like the most obvious choice in the world. She's an unbelievable dancer. There's like a lot of debate online whether Conner would like not Conner was excuse me Conner. Oh we had two Conner's on the season is eligible to have been selected as a star like he's kind of a nepo husband people say and Whitney's like making all this content with her nepo husband shirt like they're very much engaging with the rhetoric because overall the feedback I've seen is that people are really underwhelmed by this group of people like this casting. I think last year was so there were so many stars like so many it girls like it was really um it was kind

1:26:13of a banner season for them last year I'd say in terms of like ratings and and gets like they got good people Whitney misuched them Alex Earl was huge for them Robert Irwin was huge for them Jordan Childs was huge for them I think that the overwhelming sentiment is like this is a little lackluster and I think people are pinning that on Conner which is not fair. So I have a lot of thoughts on Conner and it's just crazy because like Whitney had so much success offline like almost like online off the show on the show like they were very hard on her the fans fucking hated her and she didn't even make top four yeah and now it's like her husband is the next choice when she on the show she actually didn't make that huge of an impact like she should have it really all happened like online after the fact you know it was vomiting is gen aflick like it was hard enough to do it's it's crazy that there's not a Mormon wife on the cast and I feel like maybe there was supposed to be yeah and they couldn't get one because of scheduling or something and so they went with Conner I feel like they could have gotten one and I feel like Conner sort of took like

1:27:16this salon out spot even though they had two last year it is crazy that there's not a secret lies but they're Sarah Jane Nader you know which is so random Sarah Jane Nader's not random she's exactly who would be on the show I think I think when people in the ABC family yeah but I think when people are talking about like the underwhelming nature someone with 70,000 Instagram followers like is a shock oh wow okay I saw a lot of simulator like discussion I guess it's like different strokes for different folks because here we have Amber Glenn and Pasha Pashkov Amber Glenn is an Olympic figure skater I don't know her but I know people were like very excited about her and I don't know I'm not familiar with her lore that's so funny I was looking in the picture of the two of them I thought he was Amber Glenn and that she was Pasha I'm cracking up I never saw Amber Glenn and the men's screaming skating like I because I don't know either of them but now but Pasha also colored his hair so that's why I'm confused because now I remember him from last year of course with dating elf yes yeah and then Sarah Jane Nader and Haley Bills so Sarah Jane Nader is the sister of

1:28:22works in a her and she is dancing with Haley Bills who was also a first-time pro Sarah Cobb just being like wife right why do I think that I think no I think no no I think I someone else because Haley Bills is like very young oh okay but there I think he's also married like a Haley dancer and Haley Bills was in like the troop that used to come out like in between yeah yeah yeah like she was and now she's a press the minor leagues and and they're making you know some more her story as a female dancing couple because Sarah Jane Nader is bisexual yeah she's actively dating Pete Davidson so I feel like it's really not necessary that they pair her with a girl like I feel like when they did it with JoJo Siwa like it was just it was sweet like it was really um JoJo Siwa I know so it's kind of like a curse like I feel like it like it changes your sexuality like not totally again like that was obviously a joke um I just feel like I thought Sarah Jane was like a lesbian and then the p. David's thing happened I'm like oh maybe she's not and so I just feel like I don't know like if you can date Pete Davidson like you dance with the man yeah like it there was

1:29:23some like I was saying like Ellen DeGeneres when I dance in the stars like she should dance with a woman for sure but the thing is is like dancing is not about your sexuality I feel like right and if you're saying it is about sexuality then like all these people who are mapping and like bumping and grinding on each other it's sexual yeah I'm like kind of a purist when it comes to ballroom dance like it's so it's so gendered right like the man lifts the women and it's like it's very old school is hailey gonna be lifting up Sarah Jane yeah and it's like or a Sarah Jane lifting a pain I don't know it's like sweet to always be inclusive of course but like you can dance with anyone like dancing is just like a beautiful thing that everyone can do with everyone like no and it's like Scott Hoiying danced with a one correct and he was fine completely and it's like all like yeah I'm sorry this is this is not for me especially with somebody who's like actively dating Pete Davidson so I don't even like she's dating any bunch dating Pete Davidson like I can't lay her hands on a man yeah so I just feel like it's a little performative it's beyond perform and yes I it's it's actually the definition of perfect I like ballroom dance like

1:30:27calm like I just I like it it's OG version like they've been doing it for decades man and woman and it's like the man's gay the woman's gay nobody cares the man's marry the woman's woman's gay I feel a little bad for hailey bills it's her first season well no I don't feel bad because honestly she's already like making a splash and like I guess but she has like this abridged version it's not the training that she's used to correct you know she's already figuring out how to make up choreo for the show for the first time and about and teach someone at a dance and now like it's not the dynamic she's used to I think it's a two-night premiere that like the men are going first and then the women are going I'm sad I love dancing with the stars I can't believe I there was a time when I didn't watch it there's more people oh my god Taylor Hanson and Brits Stewart another situation where I'm not sure who the pro is oh Brits the pro oh Taylor Hanson he's from Hanson yeah okay that the Brits stands are like you know a little myth that like for two she had barren Davis last year I think he was actually the first person out that she's like constantly getting like kind of shitty but she also ended up marrying I think one of her first partners of the actor from Kota who was deaf and she

1:31:31like learned sign language was so sweet and they're still married so she's gotten a lot from the show but yes she's kind of like gotten shit two years in a row the Hanson could maybe dance maybe but I don't think he has horns of fans and if they do like I don't know if they're voting texting to vote and then Tatiana Ali and Jan Rovnik Jan who's Tatiana Ali I don't know her she was on the fresh prince of ballet oh Ashley yeah of course um and she had that viral tick-tock with Will Smith that started the dochi anxiety challenge so little tick-tock lore pretty okay very interesting this is a huge hat yeah I know it like never ended I guess it always is it never ended and then at some point they really start chopping people off like I do agree with like the criticism that it's not star-studded I just feel like last year wasn't anomaly and I think that's because of Alex Earl period Whitney wound up being a huge sensation on the show but when she came on she was just a the Mormon wife who's on the show because she's on Hulu Alex Earl was like when even you were shock you were like why is she doing this I think that it just felt like dancing with the stars was like coming

1:32:35up in the world of TV as like no longer a thing that was considered low brow and now I feel like this cast is just sort of like on par with their usual seasons yeah I think we just like got Alex Earlified and yeah this is what it's what it's all about yeah this is what it's always yeah honestly and we have like Moora and Sierra like this is always yeah yeah we have Hanson that's classic yeah it's classic figure skater stuff are you ready for our next story I don't know if our cards are ready like I don't know if our cards are two hours okay you get to pick one more story okay there was one I wanted to cancel anyway oh my god we have to talk about the beer runs this is so upsetting and I really mostly wanted to talk about it because I've kind of propped up this family for so many years I'm always talking at them like they obviously were you silly like we're hilarious and I did just want to make like an official resignation and like make it be known like this is not something I can get behind your ass I knew you like stood you stood by through acquired gave this recently yes they yes they know and they've been through a lot publicly and like I'm always

1:33:37like like seeing the best in them that ends today this is such a disturbing story every detail and it keeps getting worse and worse it went from two charges to seven charges it is so a sign of like such morals of gravity in their house that I'm so upset by it like the details give me a chill down my spine and like I am out so kj beer man who is the 15 year old son of Kim Zulfis he's the one that got it by the dog Kray beer man he is being accused of sexual assault and sawdemy so he went to jail he's still in he's in jail he might get out on bond and so he will he will actually be subject to strict stipulations if he gets out of jail after being indicted in this sexual assault in sawdemy case his new normal will be close close monitoring if granted bond sexual assault case experts are saying there's a likelihood he'll be released and he will have a lot of conditions he'll be on GPS probably be on house arrest and having to do school

1:34:37yeah based on what I had read it seems that they have like a pretty good amount of damning evidence for there to be so many charges and for them to be holding him in jail right now yes so the charges are aggravated child molestation aggravated sawdemy aggravated sexual battery false imprisonment and three counts of aggravated sexual battery against a child under 16 stemming from an alleged incident in alpharetta george or earlier this year the charges are unbelievably serious and could result in decades of prison time if he is convicted and the fact that he remains behind bars could suggest that there's a very strong case against yeah that's what I like I heard people who like know more about the case saying like the fact that there are so many charges and he's still being held yet they said not releasing him into the custody of his parents with electronic monitoring of some kind surprises me for a child of his right the crimes are so egregious like what he's actually being charged with um it's it's very disturbing that I mean anytime something like this happens but that a 15 year old couldn't would do this um like I said it's

1:35:39a sign I think of like true moral depravity and it's so upsetting and Kim's ulciac released a statement that bothered me so much like obviously she's like my son is innocent in a st. gadi out against these claims from this woman she said the word woman the girls 15 or I don't know how it she is but she's under 16 it's like yeah it was such an intentional use of language um to like I guess lighten the the severity I just thought it was so disgusting um you're all white trash quite frankly like I just I there are so few stories like actually like leave me speechless this is egregious it's egregious like every element is sodomy 15 years old like I'm out on this family beyond out by yeah oh it's really nauseating no it's frightening and if you look at pictures I mean this huge kid I think he's a football player um it just like it actually makes me sick like I feel sick yeah sick

1:36:41well look forward to justice being served yeah I'm curious if they are gonna let him out like I feel like when you're on trial you get out on bat on bat right before you're trial unless you're like a murderer flight raster I think depending on the degrees of the show if you're for tax for all I think they'll let you stay at home yeah yeah yeah um very upsetting I know we didn't get to everything today but like the show does have to get up so it does and then the only other thing which we talked about on pay chair which I know that you like hate I'd love to talk about his Lindsey Clancy oh I oh I guess we haven't spoken about it since the mistrial which is like a look fused by like I don't know where we go from here um my opinion has not changed um I'm actually feeling even like more fervent than ever um if you want to hear like my rant and I the crazy thing is like this is really taken women like women are divided I'm not even divided but like this is like very much like a women's issue that people are talking about women are dividing no the women are divided and I think that um we have a huge female audience and like I think a lot of you guys

1:37:44like would majorly disagree with me I have actually never felt more strongly about anything and maybe in the history of the toast like I think she should be locked the fuck up I have so many doctors and so many it's crazy how like people are getting canceled for like their takes on this I mean um yeah and so like I guess I think I have what I've said on the patreon is like an eighth of how I feel like I have the strongest things but I'm being accused of not supporting postpartum women which is literally the opposite like if you watch the show like you know how false that is um so it's just like one of those things I don't even want to talk about but I feel so strongly that like maybe I could change the opinion of one person because to be honest I've seen some takes from women that I think we look at God and I think me ashamed to be a woman and share a gender with some people like I think people have gotten a little lost in the sauce and I've seen a lot of people or like even people that I talked to be like in the beginning I was like you but Jackie did it yeah in this like social media friends I don't know how like all of this has

1:38:45like obfuscated the fact that like the woman killed three children three children are dead whatever led her to whatever sad circumstances you know that got her there they're very sad sorry to hear but you killed your children and the worst should happen to you agreed and I think that um oh there's so like there's so much to say I think that I'm actually finding it like very difficult to discuss this with people in both online and like in my own life because I'm feeling like are are you serious and I think there's like levels of people who like think X and I think like people who think the husband did it like I actually I I can't talk to people who think that the husband did it because yeah if you think that the husband did it then yeah this woman's being like wrongfully convicted no but it's so the child murderer but it's like they're not even her own team is not even trying to say that she didn't of course her lawyer said many times are in the trial that like admittedly she did it and I think that it's so like I watched footage of the funeral like the speech that he made and they're like it's weird he went to Costa Rica and he got remarried it's like when you shut the fuck up like if somebody loses all three of their kids at the

1:39:45hands of their wife how about they can do whatever the fuck they want like I don't care how they he ran a marathon okay like I literally don't care like for them and I feel like we talked about that when he ran for when I watched the Brian coberger um I know I was like saying how it's so weird that it all happened at 4 a.m. and that the kids didn't call the police until noon and they had a detective on the documentary being like we didn't think that was weird at all like you really can't predict how someone's gonna react in the wake of a tragedy that's something that's so shocking and traumatizing so it's like okay maybe you think he should have waited six years before getting married it's like and like the judgment that's coming to this man who literally lost his three kids like I think it shows again my favorite phrase today a moral depravity in our culture that like we can't let this man rest and like Lisa Rina making TikTok's Patrick did it like there's no proof like I just I actually can't and I know the comments are gonna blow up from this but like I'm so I feel so strong land I'm so steadfast in my beliefs and like you're not changing my mind if anything I'm becoming even more radicalized yeah no so I guess like the mistrial they weren't going

1:40:49to convict her and also what happens to her whether she's convicted or not is the same um because she's like paralyzed and going to be like in a care facility whether she's like you know it's a mental illness declaration or just like there's no gel for her really um so like what happens to her is mostly the same but it's more so about like the legal precedent and so I'm glad there's no precedent set that you can get away with three kids and then I guess you get like mentally evaluated every six months right so there is like a higher chance of you getting out and like having more you know and like a lot of people there's like cases in the past like mostly with black women whose whose medical records aren't even admissible in court so like the fact that they might have struggled with a mental illness like doesn't even get to be spoken about but like I'm sorry I actually can't talk about this yeah so I guess like mistrile's like best case scenario um sure those of us who want to see justice I need I heard that the lone juror is gonna be on Nancy Grace that's what I heard and when I tell you that will be like the interview of the century yeah

1:41:53I need to know who it is they say like oh there's a lot of rumors people say because it was a jury of like nine women three men um that it was one of the men I think it was one of men I think someone like outed that in the pronouns that they used to describe the situation um curious yeah so yeah that's always a can of worms the world I know what's it gonna bring it up today because it's so I wasn't going to either but actually like you're so glad you've never I'd to deal with postpartum depression it's like we're not talking about postpartum depression first of all in second of all like that's so like you're missing the point yeah no you just you can't kill three children you just can't do it and you just can't no and the fact that like she's even on trial trying to save her own life like there's like a very famous case I think people are comparing it to Andrea Yates who like is I think the most was a while ago um killed her kids I think she said she was in psychosis and she like she was literally begging to be killed right this story is so fucking fishy with it and bringing your kids in your pink shirt to the courthouse like we have lost

1:42:54the plot and I am not associating myself with these people like no not made no so I wasn't going to bring it up either but I guess the fact that it was declared a mistrial happened we had to talk last week and we hadn't discussed that so um that's really the biggest story yep and that's all for today there's so much more there's so much more we didn't discuss but the week is young you guys and so our way thank you so much for listening to the Toast the Monday morning show we deliver the fast fast stories to never met at the Friday and YouTube so we're watching this on YouTube please feel free to subscribe and give this video thumbs up or also available as podcasts and we're podcasting fans that's about a fight to the city of public radio or a cast box all the places wait for those in the podcast find out that's a Toast the Five Star view that I'll be able to stunning I'm wikily down to we are hope you guys have an amazing day and we will see you tomorrow love you bye so