Revved Up Teddi (RHOBH)

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1:06A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you'll say. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor IV. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well now, I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfills or conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford Show on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcasts Network on TikTok. On the look back at the podcast. In 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex Egrish. Each episode, we pick you here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite artists. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild, I mean, it was a wild year. It was a wild year. If I don't think there's a more important year for Black people.

2:08Listen to Look Back Added on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Two teas and a pod with Teddy Melanchamp and Tamra Judge. Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and a Pod with myself, Teddy Melanchamp. And... Tamra Judge. Tam. Yes. I'm all revved up. Why? Because you're getting your ass served to you on Instagram? I'm getting my ass. But I want to talk this through for a second. Really quickly. Because I want a hypocrisy of it all is just a lot. Why are you using big words early in the morning? I don't know, because I'm buying myself. I don't even have Matt here to yell out to help me with the work. Oh, shit. Yeah, I'm buying myself. So we did the interview about PK. And then Doreet commented on our interview. Hold on.

3:08She commented and said, sad to see someone who once called me a friend, go this low. I want to talk about... Because the main part of this entire reunion is about when your friendships were, right? She kept saying to Kyle, I don't want to hear about it. Wait, are you guys friends? Look, this is what I'm getting at. Is she one of them that didn't reach out to you when you... Oh, that's it. This is exactly what I'm getting at. Okay. So she's so offended that I made the whatever ill-fitted joke. I guess he upset about her plastic surgery. What was it? He didn't recognize there because of the surgeries or because she's changed as a human being. Which is a huge dig. Which is a big dig. It's an asshole thing to say. But then for her to comment on for somebody who once was my friend. Did she say once was my friend? Or is my friend? Once was my friend. Okay. Jareed also said in the after show in 2024 that her and I were never really friends.

4:12Okay. Okay. So I want to, you know, I don't need to point out all the things that I did for Jareed. Like the fact that I was with the first one there when our house was burglarized or that like, I went to all of her kids birthday parties when like, you know, like none of that matters. But what I will have to say is if you're going to hold somebody to the fire and consider them a good friend or a bad friend versus what they say or what they do. Jareed is the only one of my used to be friends that did not show up to the hospital for me. Right. She did not call me. She did not do the food train. Erica was there. Brenno was there. You were there. Kyle was there. Emily Simpson sent a package like. Sutton and Denise even reached out. I don't know if you know this. If a resident was at the hospital. Yeah. I didn't know if you knew because you were out of at the time and she just came and dropped off flowers or food or something.

5:14I can't remember what was and she just walked out and I went. Was that fake? Yeah. So if she can be this upset that somebody, you know, people aren't going to 100% bow down and pretend the way that her behavior this year is appropriate because I think she has been rude to everyone. Throughout the entire season. She has. Yeah, she has been her deviant vocal. And you see in this episode she's not people talk. She's been very opinionated and she's been like that pretty much all season long. And there's always been the comment. Well, she's going through a lot. I'm going to use your phrase that you don't like that. I don't like you to use. What? Why is she playing a victim now when it comes to me? Right, right. Well, I think she's kind of doing that this whole entire season. Like so now you just want people to jump on me because I made a point that upset you which I get I 100% get do I think it was something nice to say? No, was that do you want to apologize for your comment? No

6:17Okay, I don't want to apologize for my comment. I want to I hate what Dree's going through that's turned her the way that she is Which is very angry. You're going through it too Kyle's going through it too. Yeah, I mean we're all going through it in different ways And for different reasons, you know people are coming at me, you know, Teddy your it's your fault for your reasonings and you know Maybe it was maybe it wasn't. I don't know. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna say that but I will say you can't go for somebody jugular and act like they're Herding you in the time while you're being hurt when you weren't even there when the person that you supposedly were good friends with Was dying right Not a peak Yeah, I get it. I get it So like this bugs me And it makes me side with everybody else but her and I don't know if that's being by this is gonna be a great great podcast then because she was

7:18A little unhinged in this. Yeah, she had some good points. Then she had some petty points as well. I can't wait to hear what the good points are Well, we we start out where Dree calls that now on wanting to do a deep dive on Amanda. However She didn't really say she wanted to do a deep dive. She just said she want to do her course Which I thought was in fun being funny. Okay. That's what I thought too. That's my question. She was do you really think Sutton was doing a deep dive. I mean the LA time she said the only thing that I was confused and how did she know that She took out Amanda took out a two million dollar loan How did she even know that how do you get that information? I don't know. So I feel like somebody probably told her And she probably got stuck it to somebody but she must have gossiped it to Doree But that's not on you realize that's not on camera Right That's not on camera. So we would say that's a deep dive I wouldn't say that's a deep I wouldn't say it's a deep dive that somebody says I want to take their course

8:21To see how it actually works or that somebody read the LA times all of us read the LA times I mean, I read the part until where it wanted me to pay for the LA times and then I had to stop reading because I was like That's the end of my reading here because I'm not gonna subscribe I'm glad you pointed that out Yeah, I didn't necessarily agree, but I felt like Erica's like really you don't do deep dives Is it that she's the only one on the cast that brings up stuff that she's heard I think Erica is the one person that could say that Sutton was doing a deep dive I think Sutton was pretty well back in the day before Sutton was was drinking wine spritzers and she was drinking her Her purse vodka's I think she was really doing deep dives on people and I think it was only the the mixer that was in her purse Whatever Whatever you got me on a bad day Oh, this is gonna be fun. We got a rev dip titty revved up. I mean

9:25And do you think it's part of a housewives job to do a deep dive on people? Um, that was actually a question that I was gonna ask you Um, I think that we are paid to talk about things that are going on and a lot of times when we are filming You know stuff is going on and things do come up and people do get sued and people do go through divorces and people and that all goes public And it we it gets brought up and here we have soft pretending we don't do deep dives on everybody whether we're housewives They're not I mean think about how deep of the dive we went down on The Like we know where he's vacation. I can tell you when this wife passed I know everything I can tell you right now That um, when a new housewife comes into the mix and us girls find out what do we do We grew up on in yeah, we google we look up on Instagram. Who's joining our group? We we want to know now Doing a background check which I was accused of doing

10:29I've never paid for a background check google is the best background check that I've ever had Um With anybody can use Um, maybe that's a little bit different if you're gonna go pay somebody to Get information that's a little much yeah, and I don't think that Sutton even though she is pulling in 300,000 Dollars a month from her ex-husband is doing that. Yeah. I mean, I think Well, guardless if you're on housewives or not you're looking up shit about other people you just are It's human nature. It's when we were younger. We did not have access to look everybody up So we just gossip behind their back here. You just look it up normal I think it's normal every friend group on TV not on TV if you're I mean, I have friends They're like oh, I just met this wrong going to a house. What do you do you look at look up the house? Oh On zillow. Oh, okay, she paid four million dollars for her house. Yeah, I mean you're and then you're like It's just nosy human nature and it's not because you really care It's just because this is just like it's effortless to look these things up. Do you care that a man is on chapter six of her book

11:35I don't know how many chapters she's gonna have But I was slightly confused why Erica asked her if she was in the book Well, that's a thing and it was so funny and she nonchalantly just went no Erica. You're not in the book And she's like oh god, oh god Now I learned something new that a chief marketing officer role is um Is Recognized as having the shortest tenure So um and he didn't seem to be buying that. No, he didn't seem to be buying it. So I googled it Okay, I did my deep dive in it your deep dive and what happened It is widely recognized as having the shortest tenure three and a half to four years Because you're a fixer right you're fixing into fix something up and then like what are you gonna stay forever? No, you're gonna fix the next company. Yeah, yeah So she was she was in line about that Um, she wasn't lying about that But then three to sub-set with Kyle for not supporting her business venture her first And five years

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13:45Our on sale now to see Luke Bryan Kane Brown Harder with color Riley great Carly Pierce Shaboozy Dylan's Gunn Russell Dickerson Wretched Wilson Chase Matthew Lauren Elena special guest George Birch Saturday, May 2nd at the Moody Center in Austin Stream live on Disney Plus and Hulu Oh when is the win Yep, that's me clipper Taylor the fourth you might have seen the skits the reactions my journey from basketball to college football or my career in sports media Well somewhere along the way this platform became bigger than I ever imagined and now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast the Clifford show This is a place for raw unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes Creators and voices that not only deserve to be heard but celebrated one week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment and the next we'll talk about life

14:46Mental health purpose and even music the Clifford show isn't just a podcast It's a space for honest conversations stories that don't always get told and for people who are chasing something bigger So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream This is right what you need to be listen to the Clifford show on the iHeart Radio app apple podcast or Ever you get your podcasts and for more behind the scenes follow at Clifford and a TikTok podcast network on TikTok Do you remember when Diana Ross double tap little Kim's boobs at the VMA Oh when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking What the hell does George Bush got to do a little camp where you can find out on the look back at the podcast I'm Sanjay and I'm Alex English each episode we pick you here unpack what went down and try to make sense of how we survived it Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s to be clear 84 is big to me not just because of crack I'm down with talking about crack all day, but yeah, yeah literally put just so y'all know I mean at this point

15:49My this is the second episode where we've discussed crack so I'm starting to see that there's a through line We also have eggs on the table right now, so Are you finishing that sentence? Yes, I don't think there's a more important year for black people really yeah for me It's one of the most important years for black people in American history Listen to look back at it on the iHard Radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts Then Kyle reads their texts exchanged and read understood Let's talk about that. Let's talk about that. So I felt that Kyle's Text their texts exchange was very nice considering this the position they were in at that time They were not in a good place. No, I think that Kyle text her a few days before was it a few days before a day before I can't remember I seemed like the day of maybe her daughter was getting married like very soon Okay, I thought that their text was fine. I thought it was

16:51I didn't think anything was wrong with that Daryl later says that her tone that Kyle misread her tone Mr. What was that supposed to be a bitchy tone like I don't know I see my daughter's wedding bitch Yeah, it just didn't seem like a bitchy tone and then my you know playing devil's advocate here If you're on a TV show and somebody's having an all-caste party. Do you show up even for 30 minutes? Do you think that would have been a wiser choice? Why so you can go and fight with them at their party? Well their text seemed very I think Kyle was doing the right thing. She was being nice. Daryl responded the right thing. She was being very nice But I think once Daryl realized that three of the housewives did not show up to this event. She's got ammunition She's got ammunition and she's pissed You know who else's pissed is Amanda because this is my package Why didn't and please for the love? Why did Rachel need to pretend she didn't know what a package was What is a package? What is a cum cutter? Well, I actually didn't know what a cum cutter was. Yeah, but okay correct me if I'm wrong didn't

17:58Erica say in that moment with everybody there Didn't somebody say what's a cum cutter and she told them? Yes, or was it asked after she asked so she goes What's a cum cutter and she goes Andy has one? No, no I mean in scene when she was talking about the statue. Did she say that in and in front of everybody or was it in her Confessional that she said it. I think I don't remember that part Because I feel like she I feel like that's where I learned what it was because She talked about it. Yeah, she may have but you know, it might have been a situation Yeah, it could have been a situation where she said it and then in her confessional She explained what it was. I don't know. I can't remember but Kyle Was when they were fighting to read and Kyle going back and forth I kind of chucked a little bit when Kyle said to Daryl I've supported you with your fake act accent and you're Lucy juicy apple Lucy I Know but it's also like why she obsessed about the last two years the last two years like yeah

18:59You're all of your friendships have changed because you have changed So I do think that Daryl had a good point when Kyle kept saying all season long I'm concerned because you're my friend but then on the couch Kyle changed her tune and said We haven't been friends for the past two years and Daryl said Then stop saying we're friends if you feel like we're not friends and stop saying we're friends I mean, I I do agree with that. I I don't remember hearing That many times Kyle saying that they were friends more saying she was concerned for her Yeah, I thought she had said she's concerned because she's a friend and she cares about her But also then they go into the business ventures and I'm like listen Daryl has had more freaking business ventures Well, I'll start naming him off more to You know Amanda was Asked to apologize or said you know the fact that she writes her books and seen when Daryl's like oh

19:59Have a ghost writer and she's like oh, I just write my own books. Is that something you have to apologize for? I think so. Yes, you do. I think the way that she said it I do agree with Rachel when Rachel said you know, you were being kind of rude At the beginning of the night when you were like Ghostwriter like you've never heard of ghostwriter in your life. I'd I think I I feel like it was kind of bragging Like I can write my own book. Yeah, it was as to one upper and that's what Rachel was saying Rachel's like It's not nice and Amanda goes I didn't know it wasn't nice and and Rachel looks at her like Really directly and she's like, I know you don't know. That's why I'm telling you. It's not nice. Yeah You know what I find crazy That Andy didn't tell say anything to Kathy when she answered First of all, let's just talk about they go on lunch break The amount of flowers and stuff Kathy is bringing into her dressing room is over the top Then she looks at Jennifer Tilly as if she's wearing that outfit. Well, where's your jewelry?

21:00And I'm like It's Is this her stick or does she really act like this? I mean, I think she just says these she says these things But sometimes they're really funny, but like I think she knows what she's doing. She's smart She's a smart woman. So here's her sister crying getting emotional on the couch She takes a phone call and nobody even acts like it happened They're so used to it. Remember when she took a phone call when she was giving Mariska Hargitay her award Yes, why didn't Andy or like put him on lip gloss? Yeah, but why didn't Andy? I'm waiting for it to pull a turkey sandwich out of her purse anytime soon Like why didn't Andy call her out? I think Andy didn't call her I think Andy at this point was so spent between to read and Kyle in that fighting Yeah, that he was just like like Kathy answered the phone as she wants This has gone on too long. This will give us a little bit of comic relief Kathy's jello diet the Michelle Obama Kelly Clarkson Dr. Oz have all done

22:05So I kind of like googled it. There's like a there's a couple of them And all of them say not nutritious One is taking jello and mixing it with chicken broth So the jello keeps you full and the gel and the broth gives you a little bit of protein Disgusting imagine what that tastes like and this one she put vinegar and baking soda Isn't that what you make like volcanoes out of as a kid? I don't know That's what I take like when I have like stomach issues like I have like an elixir of like baking soda and water and like Okay, my grandfather it's so funny me and Sophia had this conversation yesterday and it because her stomachs were acting up and She's now been Has ibs and following her mom's footsteps and I go you know My grandfather used to have a plastic jug and it had baking soda and water And he put it right under her seat right next to his vodka and his car I'm not choking not choking and he would take it out and take a swig of it Every so often and I'm like I actually I'm gonna try that

23:07My dad drinks an elixir every single time before he goes on for the show So But what it does is a kind of vinegar Scares me because I don't have a side of vinegar because I think that like Pushes like what they think I have now is the ulcers. Yeah, so Sophia feels like yeah, so we're trying to like coat them so I'm on a medication of course another medication Another medication to like coat my stomach because they're worried about it But also my dad's like do the baking soda with a little bit of sparkling water I love that it's specific to you. It's like with a little bit of parier If you don't have parier you can work with another sparkling water and wait, so why the parier the bubbles the bubbles Huh the mixture burp Yeah, but if you mix baking soda with something in carbonated I feel like you're gonna have an explosion you're only doing like this much you're doing like an inch So what I googled it says do a half it you have to be very careful of baking soda you can't take too much you can do damage Yeah, so a half a teaspoon of baking soda and one cup of water and you mix it and then just make sure you mix it well

24:13And then drink it and it's supposed to be good for your stomach. I'm gonna try it. It does hope. It does help um But yeah, so I I mean I did kind of laugh Jennifer Tilly not being able to sit down in her gown Oh that could you think of it? Is she out there the entire rest of the reunion? She I don't think they're gonna send her out now I mean, but she can't even sit she has to like lean back like this I know how about Kathy saying like yeah that eye is right there. It's right there It's right at the spot Right and I was right in her v card. Oh my right in her com gutters I don't think women have them well, I don't know um how about you read asking Kyle are you waiting for him to come back? Oh, yeah But that kind of rubbed me the wrong way Like just because I think Andy was saying like what are you waiting for you know with the divorce and all that stuff and um Are you waiting for him to come back?

25:15I'm glad that Kyle didn't give her the reaction she wanted as this one Rachel chimed in It's it's beyond like I can't believe how awful it is like I see him three to five times a week Yeah, he lives a different life. He lives a like Where is she at the she sees in three times a week? Aspen. She's always an aspen. Oh does he live there most of time? Nobody goes there a lot there's like a there's like a A time when everybody goes to Aspen. Oh, yeah, yeah um Now when asked about the agency Kyle says top mine Half mine and I'm like, oh, that was a direct direct statement to your husband It's I think that any conversation that I've ever had with Mo about like financial things or anything like that Like being my own self like what I'm going through yeah, he's always been like well, you know you you take care like Take care of your part. Yeah, yeah, your part. Well, the fact is yeah, he started the business

26:16But he started it on housewives. So I mean At 30 years of marriage it's 50 50 no matter what Yeah, but you know, she really did help him start that Yeah, and you know what? I don't even think she's being a dick about it. She's like, yeah, half is mine And then of course they dig into Sutton again to find out how much money Sutton's making but how about when Kathy goes does he know that? I know I'm like she she way to have your back sis Does he know that? Does he know that? Um Because maybe it's not the same for her Yeah Who knows she might I don't know anything about Kathy's marriage. I don't know if she has a prenup or not Yeah Just delete chiming in it's it's a lot about the you know the relationship and If she's missing Mo and but there's moments where Dorita seeming like she cares Yeah Well, I think it's on both sides I think they both like have moments where I'm on the right side even though you know

27:18I'm just gonna agree because it's correct not because I like you But and that's good. That's mature thing to do Know both things that they're better off getting divorced now because they're cordial And afraid that it's gonna get ugly. I don't do you see it? I don't see it get ugly between them Well, I don't know people say to me right now. They're like Teddy why? Why are you and not to turn this around to myself, but I yeah, I'm the only divorce. I know like I really now Yeah, um, I mean Edwin's downstairs right now working from My kitchen counter, you know like he he has a place where he lives he comes over when he wants It's working for us for now But there has been people and a lawyer that's been like no you should actually Move forward good move forward um and to be perfectly honest. I'm not ready Mm-hmm. I'm not ready. I'm not mentally ready. I'm not physically ready. I I Don't want to do it. I don't want to go through all that paperwork. I don't want to sign the thing is is like you don't have to

28:23You don't have to I mean we're not fighting operated and who knows maybe you'll get back to get another one day who knows I mean I had this the soft moment the other day and I don't even know if it was like Regarding Edwin or just my life in general where I was like I never really thought about my life ever For a second as being a single mom. Mm-hmm Yeah, it's a tough job that's I never It wasn't in the cards for me like I didn't I didn't think like that what is Real is you're not going to be in that house forever Yeah, you're going to have your own house one day with your kids there It's going to be different. It's going to be different and and it's it's it's not it's hard changes like that's hard Yes, I feel like your situation is kind of baby steps because Yes, you're separated. He got used to that. You're still a year later In the same house. You can he comes and he goes and and then I think it's some medical reason I think if there wasn't a hundred percent

29:25Also, I think if I was never diagnosed With all the cancer stuff. I mean I was acting crazy. Yes, I know Before they found the tumors like I was I didn't care about repercussions about things like I will say I was not Myself, I had conversations with you. What is wrong with you? And I think you get mad at me. I'm like no, you're changing something's weird and you're Swain you're slurring you're Are you drinking? Are you taking something like what is going on? Yeah, so I mean there were I mean They think that I had those tumors for over a year. Mm-hmm So like you have to imagine my entire life blew up And I really didn't even realize it was blowing up until I was in the hospital And they were telling me that I they were cutting all these brain tumors out I don't remember it. I don't I mean I have this crazy necklace that I bought I told you about that like I Slate still laughs when I bought it. She was like mom don't buy this necklace like what are you doing?

30:25Wait, which one was it? Oh my gosh. It was I was at a horse show and I think I know what it is But go ahead It's got a heart on it. Mm-hmm. Yep And it's really it's more expensive than anything. It's very expensive. Remember you showing it to me at your house I'm like oh, okay. Yeah, I lost my fucking mind So not only did I blow up my life I also was making like rash decisions and I was being erratic Yeah, and you want to know why I was being erratic? Something was wrong with me. Yeah Something was wrong with me and you know what? I'm not saying I'm perfect now But I am saying like I can Realize when I am Not feeling well. Yeah Well speaking of relationships that have gone south Kyle makes it clear that she did not choose between the show and her relationship and like she said I'm still here like it didn't get ultimatum She also said that she's no longer heartbroken, which is good. Yeah And then Dorita ledges that Kyle gets back with this person when filming ends

31:29And Andy asked her about it and then Dorita's like ask Kyle, you know, she's right there Yeah She was a little um a little spicy with Andy She called him out on an analogy. She she's right there ask her like she she was getting a little spicy with him I I'm a little bit and you know, it's gonna sound after I had my rant earlier. This is gonna sound you know counterintuitive, I guess, but I'm a little worried about Dorita because like she was not nice to Andy at all She's now nothing very nice to many of the women Any storyline that she's involved in is one that involves her and her being mad at other people Yeah, I mean, I get it, but I also I'm also one that will challenge him as well if I feel like if he asked me a question that's not um Correct or if he's insinuating I meant something different. I'll call him out. Yeah, I mean, I wasn't it enough for unions to even know that

32:31Yeah, I'm like I've done it before. I think I've even said to shut up Yeah, I mean, I think I think the whole thing is definitely You're seeing what everybody else is seeing, but it's compiled into this little tiny You know, yeah, bit of time Yes I won't say when it comes to Dorita's been nothing but nice to me. She really has every time I've met her She's been really really nice me to have a like a friendship. I wouldn't call her friendship I don't know where I don't have her phone number. We don't even DM, but she's been always super nice to me Yeah, I mean this is the thing. It's not that I dislike Dorita It's that we are different people our belief system is different And like if we're really gonna say that I'm such good friends with Dorita that I need to be having her back right now Do you think I was invited to that book party right right No, you were friends with her while you were filming because you guys had a job We actually fought most of the time while we were filming and then when you got off the show you did not maintain

33:37No, we did we did for like remember when the Fox Force 5 had like all this like everybody hated us Yes, so there was like a year there where we were all very close, but then Dree kind of I kept seeing Rena Kyle Erica And myself and then Dree wasn't at those dinners anymore. You guys also had like a group text message too, right? Yeah, we don't have that anymore That group text messages been gone since we've been off the show and left you to Pull up those old text messages. That is on the pre-tumor phone Oh shit, where is the pre-tumor phone? I don't know. I'm kind of scared to open it I think it's in my drawer right here, but like the last time I opened it I had 16,000 text messages Great. I had a little tiny font and reminded me when I was still able to read and I was like Oh my god Then Sutton's drinking is brought up too

34:40She said she wasn't drinking too much, but she was drinking too often So let's break that down. What is the difference between too much and too frequently? I think too much is when you drink to the point of like blacking out. Okay, I think too often is like when it's every day Okay That's the way I would but never admitted there was because Andy asked her did you have you know a bad relationship or something like that with alcohol and The her response was It wasn't yes It wasn't yeah, it wasn't yes, but it was I needed to make a change Well, I'm happy. I'm happy she made the change. Yeah, I'm happy she made the change too I mean, we do see a different side of her. Yeah, and I like it. I do. I do like it. You see a much more sensitive side to her Yeah, but I also worry about You know like where her friendship's tying in who she closed with

35:442% that is the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available I'm Michael Easter and on my podcast 2% I break down the signs of mental toughness fitness and building resilience in our strange modern world I'll be speaking with writers researchers and other health and fitness experts and more to look past the impractical And a way to complex pseudoscience that dominates the wellness industry We really believe that seed oils were inherently inflammatory We got it wrong many of the problems that we are freaked out about in the world other result of stress Put yourself through some hardships and you will come out on the other side a happier more fulfilled healthier person Listen to 2% that's T-W-O percent on the iHeart Radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts

37:01Dickerson Chase Matthew Lauren Elena special guest George Merge Saturday May 2nd at the Moody Center in Austin Stream live on Disney plus and Hulu When is the win? Yep, that's me clipper Taylor the fourth you might have seen the skits the reactions my journey from basketball to college football or my career in sports media Well somewhere along the way this platform became bigger than I ever imagined And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast the Clifford show This is a place for raw unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes Creators and voices that not only deserve to be heard but celebrated One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment And the next we'll talk about life mental health purpose and even music The Clifford show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations Stories that don't always get told and for people who are chasing something bigger So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream

38:02This is right what you need to be listen to the Clifford show on the iHeart Radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts And for more behind the scenes follow at Clifford and a tiktok podcast network on tiktok Do you remember when Diana Ross double tap little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people I know what you're thinking what the hell does George Bush got to do a little camp Well, you can find out on the look back at the podcast. I'm Sam Jay and I'm Alex English Each episode we pick you here unpack what went down and try to make sense of how we survived it Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s to be clear 84s big to me not just because of crack I'm down with terrible crack all day but yeah, yeah literally put just so y'all know I mean at this point Mark this is the second episode where we've discussed crack so I'm starting to see that there's a through line We also have eggs on the table right now so Are you finishing that sentence? Yes, I don't think there's a more important year for black people really yeah for me

39:05It's one of the most important years for black people in American history Listen to look back at it on the iHeart Radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts Did you see the thing that the garsell interview? The clip that they showed or the whole interview Okay, so garsell apparently said to Kelly Ripa um You know, she's not ready to walk back in even though the door is always open unless you felt like the all of her friendships were severed Um, I didn't even really remember there being an issue Between Sutton and Garsell at that reunion But I guess they they brought it up at this reunion It was when Sutton said the you know the one thing she's happy about this year is her relationship with Erica And it was after Erica had already kind of gotten into an argument with Garsell and said she was fake Well, what do you mean you didn't see something she walked off the stage and said that she was done

40:08Yeah, I mean take a picture. I didn't see I Never saw Garsell and Sutton have a fight. Yeah, I never realized like that their friendship like well Garsell said I mean Sutton said that she didn't reach out to Garsell But I'm sure we have to go back and listen to that interview with Kelly Ripa Was it was it on like her podcast or was she on the show? I think she was on the show. Mm-hmm Um, but I still think it hurts Sutton I'm sure it does and you know right now like Who is Sutton like you said who is she the closest to? I think she's flopping around. Yeah She's lucky. It's always good to have a friend Yeah, I mean she's kind of flopping. There's moments we see her with Amanda. There's moments we see her with Erica There's moments we see her with Kyle. There's what I mean. So we see her fighting with Doree like there's Have we ever seen her with bows?

41:09No, no, but speaking of bows and Rachel Doree got pretty close to them Quickly. Yeah, and almost like these are my friends now I'm going to poop who on these ones over here that I've known for a decade. Yeah, is how I see it and it's it's interesting to me that bows and Rachel really haven't warmed up to Kyle Well, I think that Rachel when you see the episodes like when they show the flashbacks I think you see the relationship between Rachel and Kyle But I don't know that Rachel and Erica have probably gone the distance. I think that takes time to marinate um But we haven't seen much of it with bows either. It's like they've kind of been keeping them separate mm-hmm And so it's kind of that mix um, but then we get kind of back around to remember it was was it Rachel's house where they had the party

42:12Yeah, well Rachel's house that where they had that party and um Doree said that Sutton had her eyes the ones that were going to be mean Oh, yeah Sutton Eyes give bad Sutton. What does that what does that even mean? I could tell when Sutton was gonna kind of lose it on me. Oh, so she's basically saying oh those are her eyes before she Goes crazy or not crazy, but I mean Sutton gets crazy on me. I mean she called me what everybody called me when like they wanted to give me a dig either John melanchamp's daughter. I'm boring like yeah pick the new avenue like those the two Um mines your your daughter hates you. Yeah, that's my thing So daughter hates you. It's like hope was something new that's so decade ago. Yeah, like we got it We know I I understand I'm a neppo baby and you find me boring and I have a monotone voice Okay, but we're still talking about how boring I am right and then

43:12Erica tells Doree she didn't show up to her book event because she was hurt by Doree's comment Okay, this is where it gets a little messy and confusing. Yeah, I am kind of confused. What what you take on it Okay, so I think what Doree is acting like she has no idea why Erica's mad at her But what we're missing is that they broke the fourth wall At what part at some point during this season Doree gave Erica some sort of a pep talk About you need to do more or you're not going to be on the show. I why Doree thinks she knows this information I don't know So is that why you say why are you trying to save yourself? Yes referring to her spot on the show Referring to her spot on the show and that is what pissed off Erica Well because Doree does revved it up ever since she knew she's getting divorced because prior to that There was lots of talk that she was not going to be back on the show. Yeah So, but I think to say that while you're kind of insane she's like Insane that's a whole nother beast like it's one thing if one housewife says to another housewife off camera

44:18Like listen from an outsider. I'm telling you. I don't think you're doing enough But then when Andy asked Doree if she wants to apologize Doree. It's like apologize for what For what like you didn't apologize for but she did say it on camera everybody could figure it out. I know um And She still even when Like Andy got upset and Andy was like She is saying she broke down when you said she was going to lose her job Right she didn't step it up and then Doree still doubled down and said what am I apologizing for She's What what were you going to say don't leave it only to me. She's just like a little and sufferable Yeah, it's just like always wanting to fight she won't bend at all she won't be like You know what yeah, you're right. I shouldn't have said that Yeah, I mean she just wants to fight yeah She just wants to fight. She doesn't want to apologize for anything

45:22I did think um if we're just going to do like now that we've hit the main points But if we're just going to kind of go through the reunion. I thought Amanda was pretty funny Yeah, I um, I thought it was a good reunion for Amanda I feel like people got to know her a little bit better and it wasn't just all about her business I mean, I think it all was all about her business But I think it was a different side of it. We got a different side of her We got her laughing at herself for the first time right Um, which was good. Find out she got married Um, yeah, I think that she was more likeable at the reunion. I thought she was more like both the reunion And um, I thought the Jennifer Tilly moment and the Sutton moment. I thought that's what a true friendship reconciliation looks like Uh-huh. You could see both of them Were hurt by what the other person said and dead and like It didn't care no matter how uncomfortable that dress was um

46:23She was going to lean over and hold Sutton's hand and say I'm sorry. Yeah, the things that I said I've been friends for a long time. I know, but that's that is what like That's what the show is about conflict and resolution right and actually seeing it what we're seeing with Doreed and Erica and Kyle That's we're not seeing any resolution And it's it doesn't make for good TV either. No It just makes you annoyed Yeah Um And then I felt like Erica was very um outspoken this reunion I thought Erica was great. I mean, I thought Erica had made many points. I mean, Erica even says you know, she's like Doreed new and I've said this for weeks now, but Doreed knew about my DV stuff And she still chose To act like she didn't know I was having a hard time. Yeah, that that's messed up Yeah, so it's like I think this is the problem Doreed is giving such a hard exterior

47:24Do you think she's doing that because she got attention for it the first year she did it Clearly she can't take it she's commenting on our two teas and a pod feed. Oh, thank you for for watching Ha Thank you for that uh, over one hundred million downloads Oh my god, I know now that she liked it. There's two hundred and four I mean she commented on it There's two hundred and forty eight comments on her comment. I'm like, I'm sure most of them are negative towards me I'm not okay. Thanks for the engagement Though all of a sudden we have 800 comments on our like um but Yeah, no, it ends with Doreed does not want to apologize for anything Do you think she's going to come back like that next season I don't think she can and I do think what I was saying yesterday When we were talking about pk the before or I was being an asshole when I was saying the the things that would Truly bother me they would really bother me pk has kind of

48:28Said it's his show I did this. I created her. I made this. Well, he in one way he has because He got a hold of Lisa Vanderpuff. He got Uh, her on the show Yeah, he got his wife on the show and it was the demise of their marriage. Yeah But wasn't but what that's what I'm saying Would was there were they on cheek ground beforehand? Is there an aspect where like oh, I'm famous now So I'm feeling myself and I don't need you What what is it because it doesn't really shows doesn't have to destroy marriages And they're not explaining what it is. Do I think that this reality show destroyed Kyle's marriage? No, I don't I don't either. Yeah, and I think she said it true. She goes, you know I don't think it destroyed my marriage. She goes but had we gone and moved to somewhere like wherever she said um yeah I'm just gonna say ask one because I can't remember where she said she did say um

49:32And he could be a ski instructor. He could be a ski instructor Do I think and she's like I don't think it would have and maybe more more money is more opportunity Yeah, and so you make all this money. You're around different people you get a lifestyle But you know what that shit gets old. Yeah, that gets old. What doesn't get old is just being at home with your family Yeah Being at home with your family. I thought one that wants to go out every single night or even at all Yeah So I don't get it. I know I think it's a little it's gonna be a little bit tough But um we have one more episode of the reunion to do you think that you might even know this but Do you think there's any movement with the three girls? I don't think there's any movement at all. I don't think we'll ever get any movement which I never think is good No, it's never good for somebody somebody when But you have to understand the person unwilling to move right now is Dari I'll agree with that Because we've got Erica Erica's even had to read back a couple times during this reunion right and by the way what the

50:37They fight and over What are they what are they truly fighting over? Who's what about when Dari said you're seething with jealous oozing with please don't say oozing also or seething or whatever word used Would jealousy over her my friendship with bows Yeah, I hate when someone says oh you're so jealous. I mean yeah, you're so jealous Um, I don't know, but maybe I just don't like you bitch. Maybe I'm just sick of your shit Yeah, maybe I'm just sick of your dog shit. Yeah, like I'm sick of you treating the headlines now Tamer's sick of Dari's dog shit. That's not what I said. I'm we're talking in general Well, ready But I mean, I thought it was a good episode. I was entertained. Yeah, it was great. That was great It was a good way for part three But I can't wait to when we start doing our podcasts and I just start answering the phone and talking to people as if you're not having a conversation with me

51:41Hey, how's it going? I feel like you kind of pulled out a sandwich one time when we were doing an interview when you had your When you're tumored up She's like first of all you're waving back and forth. I'm like, what is she doing? And then I was taking bites of my sandwich Take it and you bring your say I go what is she doing? What is she doing? Yeah, I know already captain Jason She was with captain Jason. That was what I was staying in the um Whatever it's called the camper camper. Yeah, I'll see you remember that I know, but I can't really I can't remember that interview I mean all I know is that captain Jason isn't mad at me because he's still what's apps me. Oh good all right I love you, Tom. Love you. Yeah. Bye. Bye

52:49You're Shoboozy Dylan's Gun, Russell Dickerson, Richard Wilson, Chase Matthew, Lauren Elena, special guest George Birch, Saturday, May 2nd at the Moody Center in Austin, Stream Live on Disney Plus and Hulu 2% that's the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available I'm Michael Easter and on my podcast 2% I break down the science of mental toughness, fitness and building resilience in our strange modern world Put yourself through some hardships and you will come out on the other side a happier more fulfilled healthier person Listen to 2% that's T-W-O percent on the iHeartRadio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts Oh, when is the win? Oh, when is the win? I don't care which I'll say Yep, that's me Clifford Taylor the fourth you might have seen the skits my basketball and a college football journey Or my career in sports media

53:49Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast the Clifford show This is a place for raw unfills of conversations with athletes creators and voices that not only deserve to be heard But celebrated so let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford show on the iHeartRadio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts And for more behind the scenes follow at Clifford and at tiktok podcast network on tiktok On the look back at a podcast next to 79 that was a big moment for me 84 was big to me I'm Sanjay and I'm Alex Egrish each episode we pick you here unpack what went down and try to make sense of how we survived it with our friends fellow comedians and favorite artists like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s I don't think there's a more important year for black people Listen to look back at it on the iHeartRadio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast guaranteed human