Packers Week 1 Chat w/ Justis Mosqueda!!!

0:00What's going on, Packers fans? Welcome into an all new episode of the Packet A podcast. I'm your host, Adi Herman. You can follow me on Twitter at Andy Herman NFL and the podcast at Packet A podcast. You know my guest. It is Game Week. It's Justice, Miss Gator, J-U-M-O-S-Q-On-Social Media, at, actually I did it already, at MePackingCompany.com is the big one. And Justice, we officially made it. It is Game Week. How the heck are you doing, my friend? I'm doing great. I think I told you guys I have some news to share a couple of weeks ago. And I'm getting delayed. Let's do it. And it have been delayed for a week. Espination now has an app. I've been able to play around with it for about a month now. It just got released. I believe last week to the public. I was on like a test

1:05server type of thing. But it's great. You can log in, go into any community that you want. So like Ackney Packing Company, right, is the Packers community. But we also have a lot of other sites covering other sports teams. If you don't want to deal with the cesspool of social media and everything else that gets involved in that, and getting hammered with news about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's wedding. Or I just saw TMZ posted that AI Clay Matthews photo. You're not going to be dealing with any of that stuff on the espination app. Even for TMZ standards, what are we doing here? Even for TMZ standards. I don't know what the heck we're doing here. My dad sent me that and was like, what does he do? Does he own a bunch of roads? And I was like, how did you get caught by this? It's clearly AI buddy. Yeah. And he's only like, yeah, he's he had me when he was 20. So he's not that old. He's like early 50s. Anyway, espination app. So you can just subscribe to a bunch of

2:10different communities. We also have like the overall NFL community, the overall, you know, whatever you're interested in. Personally, I subscribe to like the Blazers, the Duckseye, and then like the NFL College Football NBA. Because that's what I'm interested in. I will say one cool thing about this though. I'm subscribing to the Vikings community this week, just because I want to keep up with their needs and like their perspective and stuff like that. I should actually show you guys this damn app. I do this correctly. So yeah, so this is what it looks like. This is the feed. So this is everything all mixed in together as one. When you swipe to the left or to the right, this will just be like APC. This is just all Acme packing company news, right? You can go to if you just want to go to just create articles, you can do that. If you want to go to the post, which is what, you know, you guys can contribute to and all that stuff when we're having

3:13conversations. This would be like the feed if you go on.com. You can go do that. And then you can just easily swipe right and look at like other sites. So this is Blazers Edge. They cover the Blazers. This is addicted to Quack. They cover the ducks. It's been really fun. I think it's probably the best way to like people come to APC, right? And I go to APC. And I'm a test-tower. But I haven't been as good about going to like Blazers Edge or you know, addicted to Quack and stuff like that. This has made it a lot easier. And this coming, you know, for the start of the college football season has been great for me. I was in the certainly in the addicted to Quack comment section during that Oregon Boise State game. My brothers at Boise State grad, I've been sending them the blunt punch gift every morning for a week. And yeah, I got real spooked on Saturday. I actually had to stop watching the game when we turned

4:14it over on downs. I think in the early second quarter, I brought a dresser up three flights of stairs. I did dishes. I did laundry. There was something else I did. And then I was not a good boy. I went back to my addict ways and I had to turn back on the game. So I cut the second half. But yeah, I was pretty pissed on Saturday. I watched part of the Badgers game. I actually fell asleep after you guys hit the first field goal. There's probably both the best way to do it. I woke up. I woke up and it was like midnight. And I was like, I fell asleep on the couch. Addy went out of town with whatever friends for a day. So I was left by myself just passed out on the couch. No one to wake me up. Had no responsibilities. So very well rested. We have an app. Please go check it out. I actually really do like it. I'm usually a person who's pretty opposed to change especially as it regards to my work. But this is I think a positive improvement. So if you guys would

5:19like to go get the espionage app on however, you know, Android iOS, all that stuff, go for it. I think you guys will have fun. The game day chats are really cool too. If I had a chance to check it out, it's really, really cool. I can't recommend it enough. And obviously you get all of justice's amazing work there as well. So check it out. Download the app. And of course, make sure you're checking out all the stuff that I can be packing companies putting out. Even if you're going back to the desktop version that works too, but the app is really, really cool. And you're going to enjoy it. It's on. Yeah. I've had some people ask me like, Oh, you guys like going to stop caring about the dot com and things like that because you guys have an app now. No, I use the dot com. I that is primarily how I go on APC. It's how I write my articles and all that stuff too. So no, we're not deprioritizing dot com. This is just a much better user experience if you're checking and on mobile. And I've seen the data. We have the data for all that stuff. A lot of you guys are checking on mobile. So love it. Love it. Absolutely love it. All right. We've got Packers Vikings game week. I guess that we made it. We've got as people are listening to this on Tuesday,

6:22we are one day away from an actual NFL game and then another on Thursday and then a whole slate of college football on Saturday, of course. And then before you know it, it's going to be Packers Vikings. Want to go through all of that. But we do have captains, Justice McKinney, Miss Gettin, a year long captains for your green Bay Packers Tucker Kraft and Jordan Love are your offensive captains. Zaire Franklin and Xavier McKinney are your defensive captains and your special teams captain is Isaiah McDuffee thoughts on your 2026 green Bay Packers captains. Not really surprised. You know, Mike has hurt for a couple of weeks. Like I wouldn't be surprised if like Mike gets a captain patch once it comes back from injury to yep. There's no NFL rules where it's like you can only have this many captains. So some teams of like 20. Yeah. And like we've done things in the past like it was super regular for us to like rotate captains on a game by game basis. Sometimes players even make themselves captains before the kickoff. Sometimes that even happens. Yeah. Sometimes players even make themselves captains by just giving them self as a gold chain

7:24and making themselves captain. There's a lot of different ways to become a captain. Shadadja Shadadzi. The Packers first preseason game. I believe the captains were Zaire, Jordan Love and Isaiah McDuffee. I'm not surprised McDuffee is a special team's guy. He plays Kraft Lotus snaps and he's like he's not like a special team's ace but he's on the field all the time. Like it makes a lot of sense for him to be in that role McKinney. Like Zaire Franklin. He's going to be a guy who's on the field all the time and in the middle of the field. I'm playing charge of the communications. Yeah. Exactly. Makes a lot of sense. Tucker, great player. Not surprised by that. Like I guess if like anything it's like because like we sure aren't like we're not going to cap them Josh Jacobs right now. Right. If anything it's just like oh okay they went Kraft instead of Christian Watson. But outside of that like yeah big old nothing burger on my end like this is kind of what we should have expected.

8:28I wonder if everything was normal if Josh and Michael would have been two additional captains. Like just they would have had one more and offense one more and defense. I think that probably would have been the case. I think there probably would have been seven with with each of those getting the captains badge as well. But and maybe they both still do maybe come weeks seven. Actually, I don't know if you could do that with Josh. It depending on what happens you probably can't do with Josh. But I wouldn't be surprised if Michael got one. Maybe my can Christian do at that point. Who knows? Yeah, it's possible. We'll see. I like it. I think and I do like the season long captains to it's not to say you can't send somebody else out to captain for a game to if something happens or whatever. But I do like the season long captains. I do think it adds a little bit of something to it. I do like that there's only five. Some of these teams that have like 10 captains like 20% of your team are captains. Like if you have 10 captains you have no captains. This all of this feels right. Two offense, two defense, one special teams guy. I'm totally cool with it. Yeah. And like those guys aren't really like captains means a lot more at like lower levels of football because like the reps are asking whether

9:33they want to accept penalties and stuff or not. Like yeah. In the NFL, none like Jordan's not being asked if they want to take the penalty or not. Like all of that is being done on the sideline. So yeah. I know you have kind of looked at the depth chart a little bit and you've kind of called out some of these spots that are still potentially up for grabs as we go into weak ones or maybe better put we just don't know the exact situations on some of these. As you look at the roster going into this week one against the Minnesota Vikings, what to you is still a question mark Matt did get asked about Aaron Banks and Zad Bockebo Wellay and whether they'd be good to go and he punted on it just really have to wait and see you know he's not that we're in season now he's not going to give much injury information until the actually injury report is out. So yeah. Well, what are your thoughts on where this roster stands going into week one? Yeah, I mean the offense line is obviously a big one. I think that's more injury related than anything else. Yep. I know the opinion that Jacob Monk is just the right guard going into the season.

10:37Yeah. I think so. Based off of what they've done so far. I'd be surprised if... because I don't know this for a fact, I think that there's a real possibility like even if Banks comes back and is healthy that Burton and could rotate at left guard anyway. Yeah. Zad Bockebo Wellay obviously if he's healthy enough to go you want him playing right tackle. But I would be pretty surprised again with my assumption that that Burton and Banks at minimum will probably be in a rotation spot. I'd be really surprised if like they didn't play built in at all at right guard all summer and then in week one they start having him rotate with Jacob Monk. I just don't see that happening unless Monk starts to struggle and it will probably be multi-game struggle before we end up pulling that trigger. So yeah again the offensive line thing is more of a injury thing. I think the defensive line rotation is really interesting. I don't know

11:41how much Javon Hartgrave is going to end up playing and I don't know what spot he's going to be playing. At every turn they've treated Karl Brooks like he's going to be a true starter for this team. I think that might surprise some fans who aren't paying super close attention to like the rotations and stuff. I know some fans are probably wondering like well what plays did he make in the preseason that justifies that folks the pecking order matters more than the performances in the preseason. Like I don't know how many times we have to see this type of stuff. But they pulled Karl Brooks and the starting corners in. What was it the second preseason game? I want to say. Maybe it was the first. I can't remember. It was second. I wouldn't be shocked if it's like Karl Brooks and Devonte Wyatt starting at three four defensive end and then that group is going to rotate a lot. The defensive line will rotate a lot. I don't know how much value we should even put in the guys being the quote-unquote

12:45starters when the starters are going to play 60% of the snaps. I do wonder how hard it is when it's third in 12. Who's in on third in 12? That's what I want to know. But I do think that that's a little bit of a question mark. Ed Ressher, I'm sure people have some questions like how are you going to replace Micah? It seems like it's all been surreal opposite of LVN. I don't really think that's a question right now. The other thing is cornerback. I just wrote an article today where I was like, hey guys, just as a reminder, like CSA hasn't been named the starter. I know people got really excited about some of the stuff that he's done in the preseason stuff. We've talked about this before. Packers do not travel their cornerbacks. Right? Kishon plays the left corner and basically Carrington and CSA have been rotating at right corner. There was a very short period of time when St. Juice was coming off of injury and they were like trying to onboard him, get him more playing time because he missed practices and stuff

13:51in training camp where he was rotating with Kishon Nixon at the left cornerback position. But before and after that, it was all Kishon. I'm assuming Kishon is going to start at left corner at right corner. I don't know. It could be Valentine. It could be CSA. It could be a rotation. I think all of those options are on the table right now. I just wanted to put that on people's radars. How about running back? I think it's Lloyd because Chris Brooks isn't a ball carrier and Johnson just got here. I know he's got, you know, I think Hubert talked to Tim Lester, the offense coordinator in Iowa. He used to be an analyst under Matt LaFlore. And he said, you know, basically, yeah, we run the Packers offense, like from a Rubik's standpoint, all that stuff. So he should be able to hit the ground running pretty quick. And I do think that he'll be the number two ball carrier in Green Bay. I don't think Chris

14:55Brooks is here to carry the football. I think he's here to do a lot of the dirty work and stuff. But I think it's the martial on the lead show, at least really on in the season. So I'm curious at running back. Lloyd's going to start, but I'm just curious how much they're willing to give him. It is, you know, he's played 10 snaps in two seasons. And a part of me is just like run until the wheels fall off. You might not, you might have them no matter how careful you are. You might have them for like three weeks anyway. If you have them for three weeks, get the most out of that three weeks that you could possibly get out of it. The other thing like Johnson and Brooks, they average like two carries per game over their NFL careers. Yeah. It's not like they're super they're as green as Marshall is in terms of actually carrying the football and like carrying the load in the running game. So yeah, send it. That's how I feel about like, I just don't know what until you can't run them anymore. And if he's heavy breathing, I guess we're putting in Johnson. Here's my prediction at each. Lloyd is the starter,

15:56but I think Johnson's going to get a decent amount of wrap. In fact, I think it's going to be closer to 50, 50 than maybe people think that's and I don't think we see Pierre Strong. I could be wrong, but I don't think we see Pierre Strong. It's going to be really it's going to be really hard to get him on the active roster right now because the last Caleb Johnson is an active that's it's basically the choosing between those two. And I think they're going to go with Johnson would be my guess. But if Johnson is enough to par yet, doesn't feel like they don't feel like he knows the offense well enough, then it'll be strong instead of Johnson. But I think they have to choose between those two. I agree with you. I agree with you. I think left guard, like you said, I think banks and Burton are going to rotate. I think Bacabalala and Belt and will rotate some as well. I think it's going to be like 70 30, but I just think it's going to be based on workload. I don't think it's going to be obviously anything that's, you know, they're not in the same caliber of player. I'm not saying that, but I just think I just think to give give ease him in a little bit. I think it'll be like 70 30, Zach Bacabalala right tackle. I think hardgrave is going to be their pass rush specialist on the inside. I think they're going to limit him playing on early downs so that

17:01they can have him on money downs. And because of that, I think it's going to be a lot of like Jonathan Ford at the nose with Carl Brooks and probably still Wyatt. And then on passing downs, I think they're why it's going to kind of be their Belko defensive tackle with white and hardgrave playing it's on inside on passing downs too. And I can see brings you getting some time if you're healthy. The one thing that's going to be really interesting to me is just like how they use Brooks. Brooks is a guy that we've talked about where his his volume of snaps have scaled and his efficiency has inverted because of that right? He's clearly playing too many snaps to be as quality of a pass rusher as he was early on in this Packers career. But if you're going to have him be the three four defensive end, what does that mean for him as a pass rusher? The other thing that I think is really interesting is like the Packers historically when they've used that Cheetah package, right? Where you kick an extra edge rusher into the interior and you only have one defensive

18:01tackle for downs. You know, it's basically three edge rushers and then a defense tackle getting after the quarterback. They've used Brooks in that rule. But like if Wyatt is going to be the designated or if hardgrave is going to be the designated pass rusher, but he's also not the three four defensive end. Like how does like how do the pieces of this puzzle go in? I don't think we have an answer on the defensive line yet. I'm going into week one with kind of like an open mind and I'm kind of throwing my hands up on that one. Like obviously when Jonathan Ford gets on the field, he's going to be at no tackle, right? Like we know that at this point. But some of these other questions on the line, I just don't think that they've been resolved and it's because we haven't seen these guys together for a long period of time. That's solely fair. Then I corner, I think it's going to start with CSA and Nixon and I do think Valentine will play, but I'm less sure how they rotate him in, but I do think he gets rotated in. Those are my guesses going in.

19:06I think you're a little bit more confident in the CSA thing and you're more confident in, I guess more confident in CSA not being in like a 50-50 rotation because that's going to my head. That's what I'm going to assume that happens because we've seen that stuff before. And then I think you're more confident in Bacabal-WLA not being the full-time Murphy. I hope I'm wrong on the Bacabal-WLA one. I hope he's just fully ready to go week one. Sure. He doesn't come off the field. That'd be great. That'd be amazing. So you think he would just play as a full game? If he can go, I hope so. Yeah, no, me too. That'd be great. I have no, I just, it feels like they put belt in out there. Maybe it just a failsafe in case he couldn't go or something, but I hope he's 100% good to go and they don't have to rotate him at all. The thing with CSA I'll say is, like the last three weeks of camp, he was the one he never rotated. He always was with the ones. He was consistently there and never got taken out. Valentine was banged up a decent amount. Once Valentine got back,

20:13Valentine was with the twos entirely. That last week, a week and a half-ish, whatever it was, it was Nixon and CSA with the ones and then Valentine and St. Juice with the twos. Yeah. It was in before that, like going back to even before that, like Nixon was rotating a bit, Nixon was at that famous day where he got time with the threes or whatever. Like CSA for last like three or four weeks has never come off as the starting right corner, like not once. I think he's the starter and I think there's a better chance he just plays fully, but they might not want to put too much on his plate right away too. And I could just see Valentine getting time, whether it's for CSA or Nixon or maybe a little bit of both. I think there will be some rotation there at corner. Sounds good. I mean, if he's a 21-year-old who can start at the NFL level this quickly and all that, like probably good sign. So there will be hiccups. I'm not against that. I'm very confident that there will be some bumps in the road along the way,

21:13but I mean, he looks like the best cover corner Green Bay has already. And I think they see it too, but we'll have to wait and see. And it's a totally different ballgame when you get in with Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison and that Vikings wide receiver core. And how do you go up against that in your first game too? Because I'm sure Justin Jefferson is, you know, no matter who's covering him quite frankly, is going to be very excited about who's out there either a rookie or two corners that he's had a lot of success against. Or on the slot, right? Yeah. Hopefully they have a good plan because they're going to need one. What about, I know you talked about this quite a bit and you looked at it a little bit more recently too. What are we looking at with edge Cooper on the actual edge actual edge Cooper edge Cooper? Yeah. So when the Packers run their penny stuff, usually, so again, said, I mean, do you want me to draw this up? How many people listen to the podcast compared to watch it? It's about 50 50. So I can draw it up if you want. Go for it.

22:15I'm going to have to find a pen. But all right. There's a pen. All right. So box star for centers, those people who do bees, I'm a box guy. The way that this works, this one I'm like before away. I can't even tell anyone. Let's get this in front of it. You're going to have a nose. You're going to have two tackles. You're going to have an end. You're going to have an off-ball linebacker. So it's basically a three four point on the line of screaming. What usually happens is you take off one of the off-ball linebackers so that you can continue to play an edge right here. You're taking off the will, the playing, the safety. What the Packers do is they end up playing edge or in Cooper right here. It's 56, you end up playing in Cooper right there on the edge. So instead of the Packers taking off the will linebacker to play the slot or the third safety in their situation, they end up taking off

23:21one of the edge rushers and they play edge in Cooper on the line of scrimmage as the end man there. So can present problems. It's a weird, this is one of the things that I do not like about the three four defense. I was pretty vocal about that this off season. I did not want to be in a three four defense for this reason because when you're only sending four, you're sending three defensive tackles and you're sending one single edge rusher. They basically have Edger and Cooper as the designated dropper if they are sending four. We haven't seen him actually brush the passer yet in the preseason. He hasn't done that. It's all been setting the edge which he's a lot smaller than NFL edge rushers and he's going to be going against NFL blocking tight ends and you know NFL tackles and he's going to be asked to set the edge in those type of situations. TBD on what the results are there. We have a pretty small sample size on what it looks like. But this will solve some of the

24:25issues that we've had when we've played in the three four defense in the past where you know okay, you guys got five guys on the line of scrimmage. You have three defensive tackles. We're just going to spread you out right and you have to declare whether you're brushing five all five of the guys are going to stay at the line of scrimmage or if you're rushing four that extra guy is probably going to have to leave the formation and get into the slot. That's how you seem like the press and Smith. Line up in the slot on Justin Jefferson, press and Smith. Line up in the slot on Devonte Adams stuff like that. The designated dropper instead of it being press and Smith, it's now going to be edge and recuper. So it's going to definitely be more of edge setting coverage role than like him getting after the quarterback. But he is going to be like the designated blitzer if they do end up sending five and it should probably be like a 50 50 mix. Well, you guys need to know about penny, which is you know that that front that I was showing you guys and it's also on in the back

25:31end is the three safety stuff that people are talking about right where you have split safeties and then Xavier McKinney 15 yards back deep in the middle of the field. He looks like a pun returner. You don't even see him on the broadcast field, right? The point of this is to stop shot place down the field and to stop the run because you still have all of those bodies on the line of scrimmage when you're going against three receiver sets, right? So these spread to run teams. This is your answer to stop the running. Now, is it good when they pass? Depends on how good those defensive tackles are at getting after the quarterback. That's how you live and die with this. So we're going to find out a lot about the past rushing ability of these defensive tackles when we get into these looks because opposing offenses should just say like yeah, we're going to spread you out and we're going to try to throw it because on paper, you know, quit game stuff should be really easy.

26:35Pure progression like throws to the middle of the field should be relatively easy if the defensive tackles can't get after the quarterback, but it is a tool that they've used enough that I'd be pretty shocked if they didn't lean into it during the regular season. I'm paying attention to this throughout the year because this should change when Mike it comes back. How it changes? No clue. I'm no clue. Like as LVN go into the bench and you're just still keeping Cooper out there. There's LVN going to kick inside and be an interior guy. Maybe we haven't seen him kick inside and anything other than nickel. So far like that cheetah package that half we had. We basically still have that. We haven't seen LVN or those guys like kick inside in a 3-4 at all yet. We haven't seen them kick inside in a penny at all yet, but again, this stuff changed when Michael Parsons comes back. It probably should. Opposing offense is treat

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31:44defense event? It has changed, but it's usually you know why it I think Hargrave got some of those looks during family night and Carl Brooks. Because Brooks is the interesting one to me because just like thinking out loud. That's just too small guys next to each other. Well, yeah, from that standpoint, not great, right? But from like a malleability standpoint, like if all of a sudden like motion somebody, you could theoretically because you know, Brooks has played like three, four stand-up outside linebacker in college. It's been a while since like you did it. But you can almost like put Edran as like you could do one of two things. You could put Edran out as like a slot corner almost. And then you've got Brooks and in this case LVN standing up as your outside linebackers. And then you still have Hargrave and Wyatt or Wyatt or Wyatt or sorry, probably like Wyatt and Ford as like your defensive tackles. And you've basically

32:49just morphed from that package to like almost like a normal nickel package would look like. The other thing you could do is kick Brooks out and have LVN still as your outside linebackers. Still have your two defensive tackles inside. Now move, bowlered into the slot, put Edran and Zair back at linebacker. And now you've got your normal nickel package with just Brooks acting like an outside linebacker rather than you know a normal outside linebacker whatever. So just if you did something like that would be very malleable very fast into a couple different unique formations. All right. We're looking at the piece of paper again. I can't see the camera. But is this on the screen because I can't see what is being filmed right now. I can't hear him. I'm going to assume that this works. Right. So this is Penny. Right. Let me take a look at here. So he leaves the formation. I think what you're talking

33:52about is potentially like if this is Carl Brooks, right? He bumps out. He's kind of like playing the edge things like that. That's not really how the packers have treated it. And it's very college football. But they leave the edge open. There's not an edge rusher. The way that they do with this is it's a technique called Jimmy pony. Essentially what you're trying to do even though he's starting out as a three technique or four eye. He's starting as a big at defender. At the snap of the ball that open side defensive end even though he's starting inside of the tackle. He's shooting to the outside of that tackle setting a hard edge. And then once the ball starts to bounce toward the inside, he's going inside and giving up the he's giving up containment on purpose. And the reason for that is you basically want to slow. Do you want to force the ball

34:56outside, but you want it to be forced outside slowly. Because if you force it outside slowly, now you can rally with those safeties who are playing off the ball. The linebacker who's scraping off the top. And it should be clean because he's got three guys who are 300 pounds in front of them eating up blocks, all that stuff. If it moves slowly to the alley, now you can have hats that can capture that ball carrier in a way that would be different than if you just gave up an open edge, didn't fight it at the start of the play. And they just run a toss play or something like that. And then it's hey, that thing can hit for an explosive or something like that. So we've seen that. We've also seen a formation called mint, which would kind of be like that penny look. But if Cooper wasn't on the edge at all, and he was just another stack linebacker. So you have basically a three, four minus one of the edge rushers, but you still have the two stack

35:58out, you know, inside linebackers. And you just have no edge. And you usually have no edge opposite of where the running back stands. Right. So Andy, you're to my left, you're running back. I'm a quarterback. This should never happen. I'm five eight and change. I'm five nine on a good day. If I hand the ball off to you, you have to basically run to the right, right. We don't have an edge to the right is kind of how the packers are playing it. But again, Gary never left. Yeah. But again, it's on purpose. And there's pretty specific techniques that they use to kind of mitigate all that stuff. Again, it's called Jimmy Pony. You can find stuff online where they explain this stuff. It's very college football. It's part of the quarters world, which is kind of what we're living in right now. Even though Ganon does call a decent amount of cover three and cover one to be totally frank, I do think we're going to play more man coverage. But it's going to be like not the man coverage

36:58that people want. I think when people think of man coverage, then like, send the blitz, press everyone, beat these guys on routes. And it's like, Green Bay for the most part is going to be sending like four or five. And they're going to be playing off man coverage. And they're going to have a deep safety in the middle of the field. And if a receiver who doesn't get rerouted runs a slant better than our outside corner risk can cover, and they're going to get that slant. And that's just kind of how it works. Good luck, Corners, especially with Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison coming to town. Yeah, we'll find out a lot. Okay, very quickly. I'm going to ask you by the way, when we were talking about the offensive line, and you mentioned Belton that right guard, what did you think of JJ Watgate and JJ Wat Posting Depth charts? Did you see this? I have some buddies who work in the prep for broadcast partners. Yep. Okay. There's kind of like, I'll just like list, like PFF does it. Next gen stats, people do it,

38:06like they help prepare, they send like big old packets. I think I've sent you some of the packets, Andy, where it's like, you may have one time, yeah. Yeah, where it's like just like data dump. But it's just like here, here are all the things that like maybe you should think about. I was asked about like the starting lineup and stuff like that. I don't think that JJ knows from my understanding, like when they have those production meetings and stuff, like it's usually on like the Friday of a Saturday, a Sunday game. So I don't think you can get info from Matt or anything like that. I don't think anybody in the know took time to put a depth chart together for JJ Wat would be my guess. But that's why I didn't make anything out of it when people were like kept like on social media, be like, Andy, did you see this? And you see this? I'm like, it's irrelevant. It does not matter. No, I think there were some weird things that like he had wrong on like the Packers one, two anyway. So yeah, no, I totally am in agreement there. I didn't think it was anything whatsoever.

39:08A couple other things. Josh Jacobs hearing moved up to next week or this week, I guess now thoughts on that. Like game theory, right? So put yourself in the position of all parties involved. I think if you were the Packers and Jacobs, you're and again, I've stated this in the past, I'm going to be pretty cold about this situation because this is how the teams are going to be thinking about it. This is not a reflection of my morals or anything like that. This is a PR issue for the Packers. I think in an ideal world, the Packers would have hoped that the initial hearing happens then or has even pushed, happened in November, potentially even pushed later like the Christian Bar more situation where the Patriots got that thing pushed after the Super Bowl. And they basically try to like run out the clock. The NFL clearly seemed to be like,

40:11yo, that is not going to work for us when there's a video that could potentially leak. And we do not know what to what happened on that video. We don't want to be on good morning America like we were with the Ray Rice situation in the past. So we're going to put him on indefinite suspension. It makes sense for Jacobs camp, if they're put on indefinite suspension to not want to wait until mid November to have an initial hearing, they probably want to get the ball rolling quicker than that. Right. So I think everyone's just kind of acting rational at this point. None of this is really surprising to me. Again, I've talked to people working on enforcement and stuff like that. The expectation is like a guy who gets these charges if they plead, you know, they agreed to a plea. They'll probably end up getting probation and going into a batter's prevention program by the NFL standard. That would be somewhere between a four to six game suspension anytime that he's

41:17on the commissioner's example list will count as time served essentially for that suspension. And I still think the X factor is like does that video get out because if that video gets out, depending on what that video looks like, people act differently when things are written on paper, then when they see the video themselves, and that's a whole other can of words. So. Yeah, that we're in the exact same boat. I think everyone like you said is acting rationally here. I think this is good. I will say I have one more thing. And I don't think we're going to get an answer for this because I don't think Matt's going to answer this question. I think he would have had to been good and good again. We talked about this last time where it's like after after the microtrade, we didn't hear from him until like the combine, right? So we're in a good dead period. I do not assume that he's going to be in front of the media at any point anytime soon. He's already

42:20taking all these visits to college games. He was at Texas, Texas State and then apparently took a private jet to LSU Clemson to hit both those games the same day, right? So he's going to be traveling around the country doing college scouting trips and stuff like that. The Packers have kind of hid behind like we're going to let the legal process play out and everyone has kind of accepted that. That um, personally, I think that's a load of crap because of their actions in the past. They've had a ton of here. I'm going to pull up this list. I'm a psycho. I have a list of all of their pre-draft visitors since they kind of changed their mentality on how they use them. But like they bring in a lot of guys who have had off-field issues. Rashid Rice had and again, these are not necessarily the same things. I know we'll try to clarify

43:24that when these opportunities come up, right? Rashid Rice had off-field issues coming out of the college process. So did Burton. Neither of those were like sexual and nature hitting women, anything like that. Okay. But they definitely, the off-field stuff definitely ended up popping out when they got into the NFL. Isaiah Bond was in Green Bay. And then the day after his visit in Green Bay, he turned him in. He turned himself in for, I believe it was sexual assault. He had a warrant out for his arrest. Ed Ingram was brought in in 2022. He was, I believe charged with, if it was something with a minor, sexual with a minor. I don't know what the exact charge was, but it was sexual with a minor and that happened in 2018. So we're talking about the Packers getting ahead of the court system with Isaiah Bond. The Packers coming in way

44:24after the court system in the case of Ed Ingram, Devon say, why had off-field issues? Perry and Winfrey had off-field issues. He ended up brandishing a gun at a woman who was in her car. James Pierce had off-field issues. It was not like sexual and nature or anything like that. That was more just like this dude really sucks to be around and like drains your locker room and all that stuff. Obviously, then when he got into the NFL, it ends up becoming, he ends up stocking his ex-girlfriend and things like that, going at car chase that ends up right outside of the police station. Sam Williams was someone who was arrested for sexual assault. The Packers brought him in and that was years prior. So the Packers saying, hey, we're going to wait for the court system and we're going to decide and our entire evaluation of the situation is going to be based on the court system. That's a load of shit. They've gotten ahead and behind the court system

45:24when they're looking and spending time trying to figure out what guys you want to add to the team. But once the guy is under contract, they're treating the situation completely different. And if their whole thing is just like, we're trying to cover our ass. Fine, but we should at least have them one record saying, yeah, we're trying to cover our ass, right? Like, I wish someone would have brought up some of those visits and stuff. Like the bond thing was literally last year. One day after the Packers visit and everyone knew he had off-yield issues, he ended up turning himself in to the police. I really wish someone would have asked why this situation is different and what they would say about the Packers are treating this situation differently just because the guy is under contract, simply because it's convenient for them. Like, what would they have to say about that? But it is what it is.

46:28Yeah, it would be interesting. My guess is they would say something of the fact of, yeah, I actually don't even know. I was going to say that they're trying to figure out the character of the players ahead of time and it's different when they already know the character of the player that's in the building. Well, here's the other thing. Are they trying to get that video? Maybe. Are they trying to sell a scenario that they trust Josh Jacob so much that they don't even want to know what it's on that video? Pretty weird. I think the Packers are in the business of wanting Josh Jacobs to play football. 100%. We said this once they were hard-lined and we're like, yeah, we think he's going to play. We're standing by him letting the court process play out, but like, I don't know. I just don't like it when people aren't honest. If you're going to do the fucking thing, do the fucking thing,

47:31but you got to look at me in the eye when you're doing it. GM's lie, Justice. GM's lie. It's part of the job description. Did you see a good said thank you? To what? Go watch the Josh what question. Thank you. So yes, he said thank you for asking the question. Yeah, I did see that. I did see that. And go on. I'll let you go first. It's just weird. The entire beat including some people who don't really like break news. Like, here I'll write the guy's name in here because he's never done anything bad to me. But like, everyone on the beat at the same time got, hey, Josh sweat, the rumors of false, all this stuff. All right. Someone in the organization wants to kill this narrative. And then

48:34he says thank you for getting asked that. Open question to the presser. I was like, all right. I don't know what's happening here. I don't believe the Packers Illuminati stuff. That shit is very stupid. But the Packers pretty clearly wanted you to know that they aren't talking about Josh sweat, which is interesting. I'll tell you what. This was not the reaction that they had to that Titan from Carolina that I also brought up as a guy that they were linked to. Yeah. I had forgotten his name. I think I mentioned that I was like an NFC Titan, NFC South Titans. And it was because I legitimately did not know that guy's name or could not remember the guy's name. I think we're doing PR for Matt's brother now. I think that's why this is different. Because it involves Mike's team who's staring down the barrel of a terrible season. And

49:34that's one of his better players. We've already seen some guy like Jeremy Fowler already did like the backtracking where it's like he's not available right now this second. But like wait at the deadline, he could potentially be and I was like, oh my god. We're doing the same thing again with like the DK and Micah thing where Rappaport was like, what even really is a trade-offer? You know, there's no such thing as a trade-offer. You only offer a guy when you know that they'll say yes. And I'm like, okay, so if you're talking about players on the phone, talking about compensation, that doesn't count as a trade-offer. Like, okay. Trade conversations. Sure. Yeah. Why not? Fun times. I'm not, I will say I'm not mad at the beat. They're clearly being told this by the organization. What do you want them to do? Like if Goot is out here saying that like it's not

50:35happening, I don't know what you expect them to write. You know, right. And he, you and I have had some of these conversations when he said like, yeah, Rashon Gary, 100% going to be part of the team. Nate Hobbs, 100% going to be part of the team. Oh, yeah. 100% going to be part of the team. And the Aaron Jones one one is a little different because I think we bought that one. The other three, we were like, there's no way that those guys are going to be a part of the team. But I know that I've written those up on APC because he said it and because he said it, it's news. You know, so like Matt, like I know people have like tried to do weird stuff with Matt and like you're hitting him with things, but like he admitted he was wrong about the mic a thing. Like at least he's man enough to admit that. There were a lot of people who didn't say any of that. So I don't know. I don't think people care about like Media beef at all. I usually, but everyone just needs to chill out.

51:38It's usually a good good way to go about it just in general. We're about to hit the crazy season where the peaks in the valley started and even harder. So buckle in. They'll only get more aggressive from here. I'm sure. Let's talk some Packers Vikings week one. Harrison Smith is back. So Packers apparently expecting this the entire time. So that's that's interesting. But yeah, Harrison Smith back and it's Vikings week. So thoughts on Packers Vikings. Please keep Jordan up. I think everyone is excited about like let Jordan cook and all this stuff. I'm really worried about this offensive line situation and being able to keep Jordan upright for 17 games. I think that's basically a mandatory situation for the Packers to make any sort of a run. The Vikings have lost a lot on the defensive side, especially just in terms of like snap counts and stuff. You're going to see a lot of different faces out there that you're not used to.

52:46I am still pretty confident in where the Packers are outside of the offensive line. But I guess we're you know we're going to find out. Have a pass rush plan for Kyler Murray. Definitely don't want that guy breaking contain and hidden the sideline with you know no one really there to pressure pressure of the ball. If he ends up escaping. But I feel pretty good about this game. I know the Vikings are favored right. I kind of surprised by that. I know I don't understand it at all. Sure. Yeah. Why not? It is currently Vikings. I hit the wrong one Vikings by one and a half or minus one and a half. And but the money line. Oh, now it is. The money line is now minus a for the longest time. It was like they were both minus. But now it's Vikings minus 122 Packers plus 102. It's almost even money on the Packers. Interesting. Man, if we lose this game, it probably is because our run game really sucks. And if our run game really sucks,

53:53we have problems. Yeah, we have problems. Who am I? Who am I afraid of upfront? Dallas Turner. Dallas. Jaylen Rudman is really good. No, not Dallas Turner. No, not. Sorry. I didn't know. I was really good last year. But a bank income, I guess. But I don't know. I'm not afraid of that. Anyway, I don't think the only person I'm afraid of on that defense is their coordinator. I'm not afraid of actually anyone on the defense. And like what's his name? Martellis the slot? Yeah, Josh Mattellis. Yeah, he's good. But like, yeah, they lost a lot and they lost a lot of snaps. I think that's one of the more underrated narratives because everyone just said like, okay, OC has got a quarterback. This is, you know, automatic. They're going to be better. And I'm like, man, that defense can be worse. They're weird. They're weird team. And like, you look at their roster and I don't really trust

54:54the depth chart slash roster on defense. But I trust that they're going to get the most out of it because I just basically, unequivocally, they have good play colors on both sides of the ball. Yes, 100% yeah. And then on offense, you look at it and you're like, man, if they had like Joe Burrow at quarterback instead of Kyler Murray, with that align those three wide receivers, Hockinson and Oliver, like they don't have like Jones has passed his prime, Jordan Mason's fine. They don't probably have their running back. But like, they had like a really good quarterback. You're looking at that offense being like, oh, that is a devastating offense to go against. But it's like, it's almost the opposite. I don't trust Kyler, but I trust everything else kind of on the offense. And then on defense, I don't really trust the players, but I trust the play color at the one. 100% weird weird group. I don't know if you've been following the news about the defensive, the rookie defensive tackles either. But like, they seem pretty like wishy washy. So far. So yeah, which kind of following their college demo to be honest. I guess fair, I

55:55liked, I liked what Orange did a little bit more, but uh, yeah, he was put in an interesting situation, college. I guess this is the way to put it. The Florida, the Florida kid, it was like, this could be anything like you could be out of the league in three years or you could be an all pro in three years. Yep. Um, yeah, I think that's probably going to be the most important thing in this game. It's going to be how do the Packers offensive want to match up with the Viking defense of what? To me, I hate road games week one, two, because you know, the crowd's going to be extra geeked up. It's going to be Kyler's first start. Like there's just that little extra. I know, it's stupid school chant. Now they're doing the fake row. I know just all fake chance that they didn't invent. It's all stupid. You're wearing purple. It's just all bad. It's all bad. You have fake snow in the stadium. Have you seen the fake snow in the stadium? Yeah, when they did the Whiteout thing, right? Oh my god. They've done it, but they do it in every game. It's fake snow. It's just like every game. I was there for a game and they did fake snow and it wasn't a whiteout.

56:59So I don't know if it's every game, but I've been there and they've done the Whiteout. So or that's right. That's fake snow. Just I can't do it. It's just it's all that's wrong with the world is the Minnesota Vikings. I think we can all agree on that. They got the scammer owner still too, right? Probably plus they have the announcer too, who is yeah. Yeah, PA is annoying. So I will say like I wish I could like figure out how to get like an audio clip tattooed on my body. Which one the far one? Yeah, but this is this is not Detroit man. This is for the Super Bowl. Where is where is that play on the pantheon of all time favorite Packers plays? Because that I will I am putting that firmly in a Packers play because that one with Brett Farvek quarterback at the Minnesota Vikings that I mean that's that's the that's an all time hate watch that's an all time hate watch and that is an all time hate moment and it is the all time like epic hate

58:00watch moment of all time and it it has to be in like it has to be in the top 10 of plays of my Packers fandom and it exists in a game that was not involving the Packers. I'm trying to thank like there's probably a a play in that that far game against the Raiders. What is pop stud? Yeah, like the day before the the the Walker one the Wesley. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Yeah, that's what I was thinking of Michael chasing down Jared Goff. It's a fun one. Obviously like Rodgers to Jennings and the Super Bowl the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl. Nick Collins picks six in the Super Bowl. Tramon. Tramon's pick six. Yeah. But it's up there. It's up there. It's up there. It's very much up there. It's up there. There's nothing quite like Paul Allen getting completely worked up over something like that. The misfeel goal too that they had was just all it's all the one in Seattle. Yeah, yeah, so good.

59:06So so good. All right, I know you wanted to talk about it because I think this is actually interesting. Inactives slash call ups for this game. Sure. It is sort of tough to get to five inactives when you start looking at the roster. Have you gotten any closer to piecing together who you think the five inactives are going to be for this game? Oh, I think four of them are easy. The fifth is like the. A lot tougher. Yeah, she's your own adventure. So this is how I'll outline it, right? The four to me that are easy. You're going to have one of the tight ends. You don't need to carry four tight ends in the game. It's either going to be John who are Josh Wiley because they kind of double up on that off-ball tight end situation. I think the ultimate decision there is like is Josh Wiley ready to run or is is John who Smith ready to run the entire offense? If he is Josh Wiley is probably the guy who's out. If he's not Josh Wiley, it'll probably get it early and then John who will whenever he

1:00:07gets there, he's going to end up displacing Josh Wiley, right? We're going to have two offensive lineman because the NFL has a rule where technically you only have 47 on game day but you get the 48 as an exemption if you carry eight offensive lineman, they're going to carry eight offensive lineman. We're dealing with two injuries right now with the banks in the Bacabalaboye situation. If they can't go, they're going to be inactive. If not, it's probably going to end up looking something like Travis Glover and Donovan Jennings and the backup so be like Burton, Belton, John Williams, right? And then so that gets us up to three inactive. I think we're going to have to inactive with the offensive lineman. Who knows what's going to happen with the Warren-Brenson situation? Again, that's an injury that we're dealing with. If Warren can't go, obviously he'll take that spot. If he can go, I think it's Anthony Campbell. I think he's

1:01:10going to end up getting healthy scratched in this. That final spot comes down to a couple people. Skymore is a backup slot. That's not a role that gets only a field on offense a lot. He's also a returner. Do we have returners that we're comfortable with who are not Skymore, right? That's what that decision making gets to. Do we need to carry six defensive tackles when we're going to be running penny and that three, four defense, all that stuff? Or can we just roll with five? Yep. If we're actually down to just six, I think Ford is active and Chris McClellan is not which is weird, but I think that's how the pecking order works out right now. It's probably between McClellan and Brynsson in that situation. Maybe. Yeah, possibly. It's possible. I'm with you. I think McClellan's probably an active in that situation.

1:02:11And then I think the third option for that, again, these are all talking about that final spot that you have to rule an active. This is assuming everyone else is healthy. Obviously, something could pop up during the practice this week, all that stuff. The other one is, like, do we need a nickname in right now? I don't know if we for sure need a nickname in to play teams this very second. I think a lot of that will be decided on whether Mark Redmond can be onboarded on special teams early on the tight end that we just traded for from the Los Angeles Rams or if Brent and Cox can actually play some special team snaps this year, that's kind of been the big bugaboo in his scouting report so far. It's one reason why he's been in the active in games even though the team has been happy to have him play defense. He just can't play special teams. So I think those are kind of like the decision tree that we're walking down right now. I think four of them are easy. It's going to be a tight end, two offensive linemen and a defensive

1:03:14lineman. The question is like, okay, that last spot is it going to be Skymore? Is it going to be like a Christmas Clellan? Is it going to be Nick Neiman? I don't know. I think it's going to be a defensive tackle, but I will tell you if it is Nick Neiman, you probably know on Saturday because they probably cut him so they don't guarantee his salary on Sunday and then pick him back up on Monday. They're going to need him at some point this year. Right, but they'll just cut him with the intention because he won't get on waivers then, right? Yeah, he's a vessel veteran. When we use the cut him on Saturday, if that were to be the case, not play him on Sunday and then immediately pick him back up on Monday where his contract then no longer guarantees would be my guess. We'll be right back. Yeah, he's a vessel veteran because I actually, I got tipped off that we're going to sign him at the cut down deadline last year and I tweeted out that it was like two, 14 or something when his draft slot and then he signed and I posted and was like, I know.

1:04:22I think spoons called me or spoon called me someone living in my grandma's basement or something like that on his show this week. There's a window right here. He's obviously not a fan of the show. There's not windows in basements as far as I know, Andy. I've been complaining about being on the second and a half story on the West Coast for all of summer. Not a fan of the show, I guess. But I don't know what I'm talking about. I just make up a bunch of stuff. That's how I go. Hard drive. The brand cocks one year extension. Micah. All that. All that stuff. I just throw stuff on the wall. Andy, why would I make up? Just Tavian Sanders or whatever the hell is name is. It's very dumb. I don't get it, dude. I really, I've worked in personnel. It's an interesting business sometimes.

1:05:23It's a very, very interesting business sometimes is all I will say. Speaking of me working in personnel in the past, Andy. Yes. The long snapper. XFL 2020 baby. Yeah. Daily. We're still out here. I don't know. I don't know how much of how many XFL guys we still had kicking. I know Josh Johnson got released. I don't think PJ Walker is kicking around anymore. I don't like talking there. I thought we were an extinct, extinct species, but daily. It's still here. Keep it in the life. Hey, for the love of football, XFL 2020, daily, I'm sorry that we had you guys play in MetLife. It was so stupid that we played in MetLife Stadium. Hey, I have, I have a theory that will happen in the next 10 years. Okay. Okay. Some team is going to be really smart. And they are going to recognize, like, let's say the dolphins. All right. Dolphins would be a great example of this. They have,

1:06:26they currently have Tucker, Addington as their long snapper. All right. They could be made up name. I have no idea. Yeah. That's it's your story. Okay. They're taking up one of their 53 spots that they could be using on a developmental rookie somewhere else on a long snapper when they could every every three weeks cycle the long snapper on the practice squad and just bringing it. They're not, they don't care if they make kicks this year. Stop carrying. If you make, you don't want to make kicks this year. You don't don't want to make a single kick this year. So what they would be smart to do is take that 53rd spot and give it to somebody that they actually care about that they want to keep on their roster and develop somehow and just keep cycling through Scott Daly's on the practice squad once every three weeks. You get a three week trial to go in long snap. Great. See you later. Another guy in three weeks. You have six long snappers of the course of the year. And if they miss all of their kicks, because of it, it doesn't matter at all. So some team in the next decade is going to be smart

1:07:26and not roster a 53rd player on long snapper when you're the Miami dolphins and it doesn't freaking matter. And you're keeping Tucker adding to none your roster. Give me a break. Give me something somebody developmental. Do not cut some play some rookie that you don't want to cut and put them on the practice spot to keep Tucker adding to them. I'm sure Tucker adding to some nice fella. I don't disagree with you. I want to look something up real quick because this was true. You just want to know if I made up the name Tucker adding to know you. I personally, Andy, I couldn't give a damn. I am not what the if the dolphins are on my television this year. Something terrible has happened. I want to see what Malik Willis is doing a little bit. A little bit. I just want him to stay up. That's all I can't tell you. That's a fair point too. I believe we are the only team in the NFL who was rostering a long snapper who was not currently dealing with a long snapper injury right now. Okay. So we are the only team in the NFL that is trying to develop a long snapper. Also,

1:08:31Daily play. Yeah, he played from Matt at Notre Dame. Yeah, I don't think this this doesn't feel he's 32 years old. This does not feel like a developmental thing for me. This feels like a they want to make sure that Orzick is okay and 100% and have a backup just in case. Sure. Yeah. That feels more like that. All right. We've got to get to our PFF draft. So last year, we drafted five players each that we thought would have significantly better PFF grades in this year than they did the previous year. Justice kicked my ass last year full disclosure. So we're going to read draft or we're going to draft this year and we'll revisit it at the end of the year. And because I made generous host, we will snake it. I will give you the choice if you want pick one or if you'd like picks two and three. Uh, give me pick one because I know who I want to take. I know you're going to take my guy and I'm going to be so pissed. All right. Go for it. Sean Ryan. I know. I do have a good night. Sean Ryan's numbers were really bad. He played a lot

1:09:33better at center. Um, I think he's even taken a step up since last season, but you know, from what he's looked in the preseason. I like the idea of Sean Ryan, you know, arrow pointing up. So Sean Ryan's regular season PFF grade in 2025 was a 58.5. Yeah. He's going to be that. He's going to beat that. I, uh, the only thing I will tell you is you wasted a pick a little bit because I did not have I had 11 players on my board. Sean Ryan was not on my board of players. So number one, on my list, easily by a billion miles, Zaire Franklin, who had a 38.0 PFF grade he's 38.0. I feel very good about the Zaire Franklin pick. And I'm following up with another non-packer from last year Caleb Johnson, who had a 40.2 PFF grade last year. So I'm going Zaire Franklin and Caleb Johnson to non-packers from last year, who will significantly increase their

1:10:36PFF grade this year? Got my top two. Okay. I'm trying to look at some of these guys. It's great. Jordan, Jordan Morgan. I don't know if you're going to enjoy love. All right, Jordan Morgan. He was, he was high in my list. Yeah, 59.0 PFF grade last year. Give it to me. He's better at tackle. Yeah. If you guys aren't figuring this out yet, I'm picking guys who are now playing the correct positions for this football team. Smart move. Oh, I have to pick another one. See, this is the part of like blind looking at it. I don't really know everyone's grades right now. You need to know somebody I can check it for you quick. If you're like having a hunch or need to know somebody. What was OVN's grade? He actually had a pretty good grade. It was like in the 70s. He had a he caught on at the end. 75.5 grade last year. What was Brooks? Karl Brooks. Yeah.

1:11:46He was pretty low. He had a 47.4. Give me give me Brooks with the justification of the stuff that we talked about before where it's hey, things, you know, his snap counts go down and his efficiency goes up. All right. I like it. I'm going number three, Devonce Wyatt, who had a 52.9 PFF grade last year. Yeah. You'll very good about that. And I'm going with another new addition to the team. John who Smith, who had a 46.9 PFF grade last year. All right. And John who Smith, the year before that was like in the high school. Yeah. He was a I think it was probable. Maybe a second. No, no, he's probably 77.7 the year before that in Miami 46.9 last year in Pittsburgh. All right. Your last two picks. This is hard because like the guys I want to pick are like rookies. I know he's doing a PFF grade. Here's I'll give you some I'll give you some as

1:12:50as a small. Come all didn't really play. Well, come all did play last year, right? You just come out. I can give you come all had a I don't know how much come all is actually going to play though. He had a actually in like only 37 snaps. He had a 67.6. So it actually wasn't probably stay away. Benjamin St. Jude's going to stay away from that. If we could do the reverse of a graduate. I know. I think everyone's going down. Matthew Golden at a 66.1. Warren Brinson had a 42.8. Baron Cerella 56.7. Javanne Hargrave is 68.3. Those are four that I had on my list that I will not be taking unless you take the guy that I want that I did not name. Yeah, give me. Brinson and Golden. All right. Brinson and Golden. So Warren Brinson with a 42.8 and Matthew Golden with a 66.1. And my final selection is Evan Williams who had a 69.0. PFF grade last year. And I thought could have been insanely higher than that. I

1:13:57had an extremely high grade on him. So maybe they're just great. I'm stupid again and his grade doesn't go up. But he should have been way higher than that already. So give me the recap. Yours Yeah, just a good trouble. I'm in. Justice Ed Sean Ryan, Jordan Morgan, Carl Brooks, Warren Brinson and Matthew Golden just to give the grades Sean Ryan 58.5 Jordan Morgan 59, Carl Brooke 47.4 Warren Brinson 42.8 and Matthew Golden 66.1. I had Zyre Franklin 38.0 Caleb Johnson 40.2 Devonte Wyatt 52.9 John who Smith 46.9 and Evan Williams 69.0. I mean, you're going to beat me just like letter of the law like as long as it you know if we're playing like prizes, right rules, right? I think you're on to drop on the positive side of all of those except for maybe Evan Williams if PFF keeps messing up. So I don't know how you could

1:14:57get to that grade for Evan Williams, but I digress it doesn't matter all that much. I last but not at least before we get you out here, we have to have a Packers Vikings prediction from you. I'll get to mine later in this week, but unless you're doing it for for Acme and don't want to give it out, I will give you that out as well. Packers, baby. Go, pack, go. Any any score, any any gut feel, any by by how much. I mean, I think it'll be a dog fight. Again, I think this game is going to be one or lost based off of what our offensive line does. So I'm definitely going to be keeping an eye on that. I'm going to be keeping an eye on defensive rotations. I'm going to be keeping an eye on how we try to generate pressure. I think all of that stuff doesn't necessarily have to be like mutually exclusive. I think they could do like the penny stuff and they're focusing on stop at the run and then they could jump into their pressure packages and all they're caring about is going after the quarterback and stuff. I think it's going to be pointy. Outside zone stuff, you know,

1:16:04I think they're going to be using tempo more. Again in defense, there's a lot more of like less bend-on break and more like, hey man, we're either going to get them off the field or not. You know, so I don't have like an exact score prediction. It's getting even harder in the NFL right now with, you know, all the funky rules and stuff like that. But if I guess if I had to bet on something, I'd be going on the over. I like it. I'm excited. I cannot wait. I think this is going to be a really fun game. I'll obviously go through my predictions later in the week, but we're recording later this week. I can't remember. We do not have a set to record later this week. If you want to jump on something, we certainly can. But otherwise next week, we will start our two per week. So yeah, I'm looking forward to it. It's going to be a ton of fun and season. But yeah, I'm mostly booked for this week. And then yeah, yeah, obviously you're welcome to hop on anytime, though.

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