NFL Market Report & 32 in 32: Seattle Seahawks

0:00This is Belie, one network, every topic, everywhere. Look for these better days. It is Tuesday, September 8th. Thumbskat, Zeddenberg. Here's what you need to know to make today a better day. Week one of the NFL season is finally upon us. Tomorrow night, it'll be kickoff of the 2026 season, a Super Bowl rematch between the New England Patriots and the Seattle Seahawks. And speaking of the defending Super Bowl champion Seahawks, they are our final team in our 32 teams in 32 shows NFL team previews. Michael Fiddle joins me on this episode of Better Day, presented by Fandle. And Fiddle, you are the perfect guest to bring on here on this day because on this Tuesday, we have debuted the newest features up on BetterDay.com, the revamped trend report grid, which makes it a little bit easier for you guys to digest. It's more mobile friendly, plus you can share the grid, which makes it good for social media, but also our NFL schedule view and college

1:04football schedule view on our HQ pages have a little bit more detail now. And part of the detail that we added was a market report and Koushi volume. Now, you are somebody that uses these prediction markets and you're learning more and you are, I mean, last time we spoke, you talked to me how you are primarily shifting towards the prediction markets as opposed to traditional sports books. So what's been your overall experience doing that? Where are you right now with these PMs? Yeah, prediction markets are for sure the majority of my betting volume now. I'm mainly a market taker, sharp taker, not much of a market maker. And I was actually just discussing this today on my own show because I was talking about the LeBron and the LeBron and the LeBron. I'm talking about the LeBron and the LeBron and the LeBron and the LeBron

2:09me, I primarily use polymarket and Novig because the trading fees are lessened and CalShi is one where it's probably most friendly to the market maker and less friendly to the market taker, but so I'm very aware of where markets are being made on CalShi and then I'm mainly trading into polymarket and Novig. So that's kind of my own personal experience. But yeah, in terms of like account longevity at sportsbooks and not wanting to be limited, like I'm not betting thousands of dollars at a sportsbook. I'm trying to get a few hundred dollars down and then keep that account alive longer and then using this this spaces like PMs to scale and and for me, even at my size, there's still definitely enough liquidity and overnight. So I'm mainly getting an early on prediction markets and I usually take all of what's left at a price that I like. It's not like thousands and thousands of dollars and then I'll remake that line where where I take it and try

3:10and get a little extra fill depending on the situation. Maybe I'll do it based on because you want to be top of the order book when you so if I take a whole something at 56% let's say then I want to remake it at where I'm getting more fill at 56% and it is in my best interest to do it at the same book that I just or same prediction market that I just took all of it because then I'm first in line to get filled. So if I do it, sometimes I want to do it based on my polymarket as more balancing it right now just so to even out the scales so I don't have to transfer money and do all that blah, blah, blah. Sometimes I'll like I'll wish that I do it at polymarket but I'll be you know $7,000 behind in line to get filled and then you get into well if you do get filled that far back in line you probably are running into some adverse selection stuff which is like another downstream effect. So I'll do it take a whole price say there's $800 left and then I'll put an order back up for another few hundred bucks and try and get you know I don't I'm not a massive massive better

4:14but I do bet it's a decent size and that is where most of my volume is coming. So seeing you send me the screenshot and having a lens into what the marker port looks like can I just speak to some of the strengths of this because I'm such a market based individual that like the reason why I think I'm smart in this space Scott is because I admit the market is smarter than me right like yes the mark the wisdom of the crowd James Syrowecke's book the concept that the market collects a lot of smart sharp opinions by people who are motivated to succeed in their outcome means that the consensus opinion is smarter than the individual expert yes that's the concept of the wisdom of the crowd which is perfectly apprised to prediction markets and sports predicting or sports betting however you want to put it that's the legal jargon that I don't care about sports betting to me so when I see the market stuff like that you know gets me going because this is like my bread

5:17and butter right like I study the market so that I win at sports betting I don't study sports to win in sports betting I study the market to beat the market just like any other you know stock market trading market commodities market you know you're gonna you're gonna want to front the market to really drive your value right there's CLV in a million ways and people get CLV in fantasy football by drafting on best ball in April and now that player is three round tiger and they have some fantasy football closing line value right so it applies consensus across the board so when I saw your marker reports the first thing that stuck out to me is it says the total volume treated on CalShi yes this is what I want to explain what it looks like here for people who and you can guys can log on right now it's live here on this Tuesday morning on the app so you guys can check it out now fiddle and I are recording this on on a Monday but Tuesday morning when you are listening to this pod it is live right now if you go to the NFL HQ or the college football HQ we're just gonna talk in NFL terms for right now but you go to the schedule of you and I'll say New England

6:23at Seattle it'll have the better day line which is our better day uh our better day originated line right and we're using that with we're using uh physics power ratings uh other metrics as well our trench reports included in that injuries home field rest all that stuff that we put in our proprietary blend comes up with our market line the consensus line is showed there across 14 different sportsbooks as well as the total and on the bottom it'll say for instance as we're recording this on Monday it says CalShi with one million dollars traded Seattle 63% New England 38% implied and then let's say I'm looking at the Thursday game for Seattle I mean for San Francisco Rams it says CalShi 695K traded Rant LA 65% San Francisco 36% implied now more volume will be traded as we get closer to kickoff with every game but then you click inside the grid because where it says

7:23full market report and player props and there's two taps one tab for the market report one tab for your player props you want to shop for your player props great you want to go to the market report and you'll see everything in the market report which fiddle we'll talk about right now so talk to me about your experience here Michael what do you think uh when you first initially see as you mentioned the CalShi volume and then what you're reading inside the market report how do you interpret it so the first thing I see when when I see the CalShi volume traded is the goal of that number is for me to be lower instead of bigger I would rather and I don't want to put a blanket like oh one million I want less than one million traded on this game or or anything like that I think we're going to have to ebb and flow with the way the NFL market change I think that these numbers are going to be higher than we expect um this year especially closer to game day but the the more money that's traded inherently the more smart opinions getting back to wisdom of the crowd have

8:24entered the market space which means theoretically there's probably less of an edge there the more liquidity that's available to be bet by provided by market makers means because they are more confident in their line it's the same thing as circa you know bumping up the limits from 10k to 30k because they are very confident based on the outstanding information that is still unknown for that game is minimal and that based on the action that they've taken and based on their model and their market read they are confident that their line is sharp so they don't care bumping up the limits from 10k to 30k and wherever the action comes in they are comfortable with it at the front maybe they'll start to move the line a little bit from there as well but they're comfortable taking it the action because they have feel very confident their line the same thing is true for the prediction markets the more liquidity means you're probably closer to a source of truth so more money traded likely means more liquidity available as well which likely means a sharper line so when you said

9:24you know Seattle and New England has one million traded and when you said the the next game on Thursday the Australia game has 600,000 traded there's probably more edge to be found in the games with less money traded you know we look at the Rams in 49er situation well 49ers are there as we're recording this the Rams aren't going to go for another few days even as people listen to this on Tuesday there's a chance that the Rams fights to lay there's a chance that a storm bruise and they have to circle before they continue there's a chance that they can't land right on time there's there's other things that can happen on it's tripped from LA to Australia under huge flight that like if the Rams have travel issues taking off landing mid air whatever that's going to wildly swing the market so there's one outstanding variable like if you want the Rams I would not be betting the Rams right now until you know that they got there safely right because the biggest outstanding variable is the travel and only one team still has to travel so that like is it reason why I would say there's four hundred thousand dollars less there's 60%

10:28of the volume traded on the 49ers game as it is because the more volume that's traded the sharper the line's going to be so ideally I want to look at that and go this still has an edge because there's four hundred thousand dollars traded on this already so there's probably still going to be some big money to come in some some line moves to take place where can I front that market and if a and if a game has you know four point eight million dollars traded I'm probably if I'm dipping if I'm getting into that water it's going to be a dip of my toes instead of going wastey right like it's going to be it's going to impact my bet sizing and my scale unless you're betting tens of thousands of dollars like you want to be betting into less traded more unknown information trying to figure out the unknowns and trying to beat the market in that way so that the first thing I noticed was that one million dollar traded was like you know as we start to move through games we'll will have some sort of barometer of what number seems realistic or matters as we record on Mondays

11:31and and and release the show on Tuesdays we'll be doing it Monday night so we're going to be doing it after the Monday night football games and coming up first thing Tuesday morning so probably very little difference in gap time we're you know let's reflect back Scott in a month and be like where's a general like sharp number already in terms of volume traded and a soft number in terms of volume trading let's attack the soft's like I'm sure there's going to be a time where I come back to you and say your market report has has a hundred and sixteen thousand dollars traded on this game the other one's got one point five million like I'm not yeah I'm I'm interested in the hundred sixteen thousand and finding the angle there yeah we can see we can see right now like I'm looking at the board and again like you know this is we're recording this you know Monday morning and you know so when you're listening to this now the number is going to be different when this page publishes live but like for example I'm seeing there's only you know 87,000 traded on Pittsburgh Atlanta okay is what I see on my grid here and also also I should mention I should mention that

12:33included in this this grid view here on the schedule any steam is going to be shown on the grid so for instance on that game there's a big orange label that says three books towards Pittsburgh 0.5 point average so what does that mean that means we've had three books steam towards Pittsburgh click on the full market report and you will see steam on this red three books move towards Pittsburgh 0.5 points on average that's inside two minutes measured over the last 24 hours so in that market report will also include the steam on the game if there has been any movement so you guys contract that as well I'm a frustrated Falcons backer in that game but anyways moving moving towards the inside the market report there's one thing that I wanted to point out you have the like most striked most traded strike which is money line 2.9k or last 30 minutes across 38 executions for the

13:34spread total money line situations on CalShi Scott I'm going to make a prediction my first traded prediction on this show for this NFL season is going to be that's going to be a money line trade 96% of the time or greater. Okay. Why money lines are by far the most traded and the most liquid of those markets on prediction markets like spread stuff is still it's going to be you know there's going to be plenty to take plenty to make there. Yeah but like it's just it pales in comparison like when I do NBA stuff even at post there might be like $30,000 available at the spread on each side of the number and there's like 300,000 on the money lines on each side of the number or like sometimes there's like 1.2 million on it and just like it's so when we talk about the most traded like the volume of bets prediction sorry they're definitely not bets they are coming in are going to be money line so here's my caveat Scott for the 4% time

14:43where that doesn't say money line I am very very very very interested in finding out what what it is instead what direction it is and where I could go get the best price to match it if suddenly the total is being the most traded thing on the under like we probably like one example of that is like someone key quarterback is now announced out and people are rushing to screen and betting under you know a weather report change where there's going to be a massive snow storm brewing over this stadium and so or the winds are going to be gusting like crazy on a Sunday morning we realize that like it's going to be terribly windy past games going to be all over the place it's going to be a run heavy game kick teams aren't going to be able to kick from 40 yards and so it's like we're going to see some random spots where unders are being smashed over as are being smashed you know want a spread is being hit hard here because now it's my home still dealing with knee discomfort not

15:46going to play week two and it's just like oh my god like there's with the in the in the rare times where that doesn't say money line that's going to be that's going to mean there's a significant edge in wherever that is and if you could find where that price was traded and where it's being bet to and still find something in the balance of that like close to where it started and not where it's ending uh you will be you will win for sure so so this is interesting because do you think that because you can look at this all week right this is going to be published every week like yeah you have it updating for every one like 30 minute intervals yes that's where it's valuable so the little snapshots of what's happening the last 30 minutes so do you like do you want to see if it's a high volume trade or do you want to see like just everything that's been moving so for instance i know again the gains not till someday but i'm looking at Baltimore indie uh on the grid and i'm seeing i'll give you the complete snapshot okay Baltimore indie $90,000 traded so far right

16:48and i click inside the market report the most traded strike total 47 and a half but only $186 in the last 30 minutes okay and then it says on the bottom cow she's wording over 47.5 points scored so that means that the most traded strike in the last 30 minutes was somebody betting $186 on the over 47 and a half does that that doesn't do anything for you right but now if we if we see you know $3,000 on over like what where does that become valuable to you because it's only tracking the 30 minute interval right and so obviously someone placing a three and a three three thousand dollar bet on a money line in the last 30 minutes doesn't do anything for you 186 dollars on a total doesn't do anything for you like what number does something for you and doesn't matter when in the week that happens oh i'm gonna answer this with a ratio first of all yes it

17:48absolutely matters when it happens um the later in the week the more signal it will have okay right uh especially Thursday Friday Saturday as we actually start getting real injury reports like the when we've gone to the point now or Wednesday injury reports are like 75% of the players that didn't practice are just veterans that are resting right like that's been like a new wrinkle in NFL injury reporting recently um it absolutely matters when in the week Thursday Friday Saturday will be the most signal versus first noise uh and i would say when does that price matter for you for me if it if it like matches my one unit uh it'll be important to me but if you're if you're in a hundred dollar better right i would say if that's 10x your unit you should you should read into it okay okay because like you always want to scale into the information that's present to you if you're $20 better and you can get a signal as to what an 100 uh $500 trader is doing like that's

18:51valuable information right if you're at a thousand dollar better you the someone who's operating at the same level as you is probably you know you'll have a sign of respect for what their action is and it's be good to know again the the bigger it is the more signal it will hold but probably a threshold of like at least a thousand bucks um and knowing the amount of trades to it's like one trade uh that's like a few thousand dollars like yeah it probably is some signal like you probably that's why that's why people say like uh they want to know who's moving the market because they want to start evaluating the evaluator right and try and figure out well why do i back that person do i want to feed that person not like directly but like their impact in market right so sometimes there's like prop discord that give out a play and it's something steams a lot well there there actually might be some power knowing i do think the original original number that they that they release you know they release minus one ten on some players over and it steams to minus

19:54160 because everyone's betting it and no one has price sensitivity and people are betting it at minus 120 and minus 135 and someone shows up at minus 140 and the book just steams at the minus 160 in market there's also probably value coming back the other way and you're getting now a plus 140 going against that person so it's like do i know this is coming from like a player prop discord of bettors or is this coming from a group and syndicate type of action it's just coming because establish the run release their projections which apparently now they are and now that was a back and forth uh discussion over last week is ETR privatizing are they releasing i heard they actually are releasing all their stuff and so there's going to be a lot of a lot of variable scot where i think like uh we'll have to check in on these things periodically uh to fine tune the nuance of the value but it's a great it and the reason why i would say there's no like negatives to these things there's no there's nothing that i'm like i wish i had this but it doesn't say this because i would just text you and say you should look into adding this into the into your market

20:54i'm not just gassing you up i would criticize it if but but what i would let you know constructively because you've done a great job building this where it's just like you know you you you often ask me what's your opinion on these things and i'll give you it where like now you're starting to incorporate those and so yeah it's becoming a very valuable tool so uh how much is traded i want less and the most traded strike uh knowing what that is and directionally when it's not a money line is gonna be is gonna be signal and i i love that i appreciate that and when you look at the steam report i think it's important to note that uh some people might be confused like if i'm looking at jackson bill right now it says uh steam on the spread five books move towards jackson bill 0.9 points on average uh three books move 0.7 points on average obviously the point spreads don't factor it's not point seven point nine but in the terms that we are speaking of that's how we equate it because of the vig that is included because of the price that you have to pay for some of these lines

21:58so if we just go to the odd screen again the live odds board up on better ad.com is free for everybody but if we look at that game with jackson bill for example uh we can see that there's minus eight and a half set minus one oh five there's minus eight and a half set minus one oh eight there's minus nine at minus one ten at there's minus eight and a half at even money if you look at an exchange so the price that you pay for the spread is different and obviously on the other side that the take plus eight and a half uh is different right so the price that you pay on each spread is different per book and that's how we include obviously in our market report where we say five books moved on average 0.9 points because we're factoring in that vig and then of course at the bottom of the market report you'll see the best available lines and where those best available lines are currently right now then those are price dependent Michael yeah all those things are fantastic this is going to be a key resource that I rely on throughout the year

23:03well we talked about the new market report up on better day dot com talked a lot about the first game of the season the Super Bowl rematch between the Patriots and the Seahawks the Seahawks are our final team in our 32 teams in 32 shows NFL previews so let's talk some Seattle Seahawks here Michael the defending Super Bowl champs we're looking at them as the second favorite to win the NFC West obviously so much love on the Los Angeles Rams but right now looking at the futures board we are seeing in the division right now the Rams Ezure favorite minus 105 and then the Seahawks plus 215 as the second favorite your win total for your defending Super Bowl champions right now up on Fandall we're seeing the Seattle Seahawks with a win total of 10 and a half and it is slightly juiced to the over what do you think about the 10 and a half number Michael so I don't really have edges here in any direction for Seahawks so we could we could really make it quick if you are considering the over on the win total then I would wait until after week one at this point because

24:09they are favorite to win so if they win it's not going to move much but if they lose and I'm just we'll say this the Patriots have been taking some steam in the last 28 48 out 24 48 hours here I've been a little surprised at the New England Patriots sentiment that has come into market could be because in manual worries like maybe out for week one the Seahawks have lost like a good amount of people this offseason so it's like it's not just coordinator Kubiak it's it's a Brian Flurries was now gone as the offensive coordinator for I think 49ers Kenneth Walker is gone on the defense Kobe Bryant, Rick Wolland, Boi, Mafe, all gone so they had more people leave than then add so I'm a little bit low I do still have them as my second rated power rating team but I'm a little lower than I think market is or ratings are on Seattle so I have no edge in their stuff but I do see the steam coming towards New England for game one and I do think if you wait and if you

25:13want the undertake it now if you want the over wait on it until after week one because if they lose you know then jumping in when they they'll have what 10 days rest before their next game and then probably rebalance how I mean it's it's a near coin flip game for I mean that sounds ridiculous to say but three and a half what's a fuel goal game so obviously a real chance the Patriots win especially considering they're picking up some market sentiment so no plays for me but that's kind of how I'm evaluating Seahawks win total and then other markets as well. No that's from this advice wait till after the week one result and then maybe figure out what the best way to approach is betting the Seahawks especially when you consider you know not just a 10 day break but it's the Arizona Cardinals in week no two which you know is going to be 17 day break before they get it. Alright that'll wrap up our 32 and 32 previews if you missed any team you could send

26:15me just go back and listen to prior podcasts or check out our previous newsletters as well it's all archived up on betterday.com and in the better date mobile app as well speaking of better day .com and the better date mobile app we talked about how the market report is now new to our NFL headquarters on the schedule view you will also see on that schedule view the better day line compared to the consensus line and as far as our better day line is concerned like it's not published right now it will be once we update the power ratings and the injury reports for this week I did a test on it with all of our factors and it gave me like one signal this week which meaning that our line was different than the market line essentially which are those the games that we want to play but that wasn't accounting for some injuries that I had to adjust and I would say most weeks we're not going to differ from the market you know I was actually happy when I ran the numbers

27:15and I saw that I didn't have really an edge on any game and that tells me not only like is the market sharp right but it tells me that my numbers are good that using you know Fez's power ratings other power ratings my home field analysis the injury reports that the weights that I put on players and also the the the rest and and the trench report weights that I'm doing I think that seeing that there's not really edges compared to the current consensus lines is showing me that these numbers are good I'm actually happy with the way it looked in the initial week one report yeah I love touch on touch on that really quick because a lot of people ask me like fiddle like how do I start modeling where do I start I'm like first thing you need to do because 95% of the people who ask me that question haven't truly started I'm like you just need to go do the work for like four to eight at 10 hours and see where you get and then what questions actually arise like you just

28:17and let me let me add let me add go listen to last week's episode of the NBA betting with fiddle podcast with Ed Fang from power rank because it was an incredible conversation about market origination so right you know following your numbers you know so if you want to dive more into how to establish or how to start doing your own modeling and your own numbers highly recommend you listen to last week's episode of that podcast thank you the one of the guys is incredibly handsome his name's Ed Fang and not Michael fiddle two hands of gentleman okay so so what I wanted to say was when people ask me about modeling stuff I'm like the goal is not to win at like a 65% clip when you start modeling the goal is should be it's like a video for me Scott it's like a video game where like I'm trying to beat the final boss and like get past Bowser as a Mario the final boss is matching

29:21the closing line consistently where I'm like the the strength of a model is getting to a point where I can consistently get very close to what the closing line for this game is going to be that way I know when I have something off at an opening or a midweek line and I'm pretty damn consistent at reaching the closing line I'm probably going to be directionally correct and getting the CLV that I want so it really it's not about looking after 200 bets and being 130 and 70 and being like I'm hitting at at a 65% clip like it's it's so small sample I think Fesik often talks about like like 5,000 is this is like the base of a sample size and like I asked Fes once I go when do you when do you stop using preseason priors or for previous seasons as priors for your data and he's like three years ago you know I mean like he was like he was like being a little he was joking a little bit

30:25and being like you never really dropped the priors because everything essentially especially in football is such such small sample that if you can hold on to priors for a team like you know who's it's a team that state consistent pretty much year over year then you look at them and you're like well you know we can hold these priors for the whole season if the coach hasn't changed if a lot of the captains haven't changed if the pieces haven't changed if the health is helped is pretty much the same you know San Francisco 49ers offense you probably hold a lot of the priors true even in week eight even in week 10 even into the playoffs even Ed on that podcast says he he uses priors into the playoffs when he has a full season of data because it's still small sample so your goal should not be to win because you are not going to have enough sample size before you can realistically reflect am I matching the closing line with some good consistently you're getting close to it right if you're consistently four or five points off the close uh something's wrong right it doesn't matter if it's winning or losing something's wrong right like there's there's a break in the system

31:27which gets me into my next point you said you know I only have one edge for um this whole week and there was only one line that I was off and then when I adjusted it for the injury news it was actually back on market so you had like correct correct me if I'm wrong you had zero outstanding edges with model and ratings versus current market correct yeah but well there's going to be a lot of movement still this week yes Scott at the end of the week you're going to then display some edges what I would do from from your perspective is process those edges as potential weak points where if you bet into all of those edges right you're essentially would be feeding steam at posts right like right before like suddenly if you have like for example I have Cincinnati bangles minus 2.6 the line open 2.5 no edge now it's out to like they're selective like uh buccaneers at the bangles plus four and a half and I'm like I now see an

32:28edge but I'm fading pinnacle being at minus four and a half on the bangles now right so it's like I now need to question I don't need to jam buccaneers I need to question if I'm off either something with buccaneers or something with bangles because if I'm just betting the the late edges that appear because the steam has moved against my numbers you're probably betting into the adverse selection stuff where like you're you're probably betting into your weakest stuff even though it displays an edge because the smart market has been said no no no no you're you're the one that's off there right so it's the same thing is like if I put up a market make and I'm like $15,000 waiting in line if I get filled that means $15,000 was already traded into the price that was at my price before I started getting filled and so it's probably because the whole market's moving the other direction against me and I probably don't even want to be filled at my stakes and my volume right so figuring out ways to avoid adverse selection uh figuring out how to cut out the stuff that is

33:34negative is just as important as how to add the stuff that's positive it's like I always say if you want to lose weight you don't necessarily need to eat more broccoli you need to eat less of the processed shit like you need to eat less sugar you need to eat less calories you don't just you don't just eat all the same things and add a bowl of broccoli right so in terms of betting if you could figure out where the the flaws are and remove the flaws it's just as important as adding the strengths I love that advice I love that advice especially on the food because I've been keto now for two weeks and I'm hungry every day so eating less eating less of the processed stuff and the sugar and all that stuff it is it is driving me crazy yeah I'm looking here and just the the numbers for our week one which have not been published yet because we haven't updated them yet these are just you know after preseason week three once I update for a week one you know player availability and and updated power ratings only one game was flagged and that was green bay

34:39Minnesota uh and that was a difference you know where we projected green bay as a slight favorite but the consensus is Minnesota right now is a one and a half point favorite I obviously I do like Minnesota um but that has to change because we have to factor in no Josh Jacobs have to factor in Mike appartions not active for week number one uh so it definitely changes and we're probably gonna come to a Minnesota minus uh one and a half anywhere else there really is like no you know big edge I mean uh in the early numbers I have Philly a little bit higher rated than where the market is right now so um could be my bias on Philly uh me too I have that one I have that one circled yeah so that's one where you know problem that's our biggest edge other than the one that's really flagged um and then you know Houston but that line keeps going down so that's even one that maybe there's no edge on that one Buffalo minus one and a half but again I mean Houston might be a play

35:41it can be a teaser leg hint I think Houston will take steam between now and kick off yeah I personally not interested I think it's a good teaser like if you have minus 120 prices available which no one does unless you have different outs but yeah yeah but I talk captain jack talked about that if you do three team teasers you get plus 160 not anymore did you see what happened did you see what happened uh someone tweeted this out I have to let me check right now um oh my goodness I forgot who uh I think it was a loop in a car from Vison if I'm not sure you know he's the MMA MMA guest a bunch of times gam blue on Twitter I think he tweeted this out that I think draft kings changed the three leg teaser price and it used to be used to be plus 150 plus 160 on the three leg teaser right plus 160 is like a standard Wong teaser three legs it's okay to the minus 120 is on a two leg which have been duked for market I just picked three random games on DK and it's plus 140 on a three leg teaser uh so obviously changing the price there uh we look up yeah it was

36:46we'll look up on fandall I'm gonna see I'm gonna do the same thing I'm just gonna pick three random NFL games again not Wong teasers I'm just picking the first three games that jump out to me let's just go one two and three three leg teaser is paying out where's your teaser three leg teaser plus 140 up on fandall as well so so I heard that they I heard that fandall is gonna be doing the minus 120 two leg teasers but with a $50 um limit limit which I think is genius by them because it invites people back to do the teasers there especially the smaller recreational betters um and it also you know it's like it's like a hey I we know we're giving you an edge so we'll give you a small edge okay take every edge you can get out there people yeah play every Wong teaser you can with with minus 120 just stack I mean I don't know I don't do you think fandall is gonna limit accounts that are doing every single Wong teaser possible at minus 120 we can find out

37:52we will find out we we will find out I will tell you they will limit you if you keep hammering college football rushing props so uh that's for damn sure it's been a good that's that's why that's why you you know you met them small on fandall and you scale with the pms it's been a good it's been a good start to the season for the college football trench report we'll leave it at that we'll talk more trench report as we progress throughout this week coming up tomorrow David bareman will join us here on the pod and then on Thursday McKenzie rivers will join us on the pod in the morning as we will give the same game part of life for Thursday night football we'll do the same with David bareman for the Wednesday night game um and then Thursday's better day football show live stream 2 p.m. Eastern time myself Steve Fesick and AJ Hoffman this week so the band back together again we'll be talking NFL college football and we'll be going over the better day lines we'll be going over the trench reports uh the market reports everything that is available to you now

38:53up on betterday.com if you want access to all this information go to the website betterday.com learn how you can become a better day insider or premium member it's on our homepage also download the better day mobile app whether you have an iPhone or an android does not matter we are available for you there and always be on the lookout for updates as we are continuing to build we are never satisfied and very proud of the work that we continue to do each and every week any feedback please send it in because we love listening to you guys as well uh fiddle what you have coming up this week on your pod i did a whole book by book plus EV player props for the NFL today i really i'll be i'll be doing a live show Wednesday and Friday i really don't know um what i'm going to cover yet probably some because the the WNBAs on the feeble break the women's were at a sweaty match up against italy yesterday um or sunday as people are listening to this uh so i'm waiting for the WNBA to come back still a little too early to do too much of the NBA future so i'll probably still be doing some NFL stuff Wednesday and Friday uh of this week but i just did every player prop book by

40:00book uh at fan dual draft kings bed mgm cezars bet three sixty five uh sorted them using my odd screen shared it on the screen going over what edges are in market you if you have one of those books one of those outs you can pause the screen at the when i go over that it's even timestamped in the youtube and podcast feed um and then just you could even parlay a bunch of those because if you stack edges together in parlay it's it's a good thing so i'm i'm forward doing that great stuff really great pod uh michael really appreciate it uh if you guys once again want to listen to the NBA betting with fiddle podcast follow him on twitter at fiddles picks or a minder download the better day mobile app learn how you can become a better day insider or premium member today you can check us out on the web at better day dot com as well make sure you are subscribed to us on social media on twitter at better underscore day and subscribe to the youtube channel at better day for michael fiddle i'm scott saddenberg here's how you make today and every day a better day

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