Morrissey vs. Byfuglien: Who Would You Take?

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1:05Josh Morrissey, his return to the lineup, was a big one on Saturday night at Canada Life Center, instrumental in the Jets' 3-2 win over the Vancouver Conox. Now Morrissey scored the game winner in the extra frame and also picked up an assist on Gabriel Valardi's late goal that forced overtime now. Those two points moved, Morrissey passed Dustin Bufflin on the Jets' all-time franchise list for points by defenseman, 417. So would you rather have on your team, Morrissey or Bufflin, Richard Klutsche just chimed in. He says, Bufflin, what do we have to say? What does Jim think? What do I think? Well, you got to listen to find out. Also has the path of the postseason actually opened up for the Jets. Well, I've crunched the numbers and if things continue the way that they have since returning from the Olympic break, Winnipeg could find themselves back in the playoff spot. However, the margins are razor thin and there are no guarantee that teams like the Kings, Nashville, Seattle, San Jose are not going to find another gear. And especially, there's actually lots of head to head matchups between those teams as

2:07well. Winnipeg makes it in there as well. So, how many points can the Jets realistically still afford to give up over their final 20 games? All that and more on today's edition of Jets at New. Yeah, it's pretty special. You know, I just obviously think about him and obviously, you know, what he meant to me when I came into the league as a mentorship and friendship, you know, I learned so much from him and obviously getting to play my first maybe 50 games and lead beside him. You know, it was pretty special. I'm not sure I would have thought at the time, you know, that was attainable. At the end of the day, I've just been fortunate to play with so many great players. You know, when you're passing the puck through the years, the guys, Shife and KC and wheels and, you know, all the different players that have been here, you know, you get rewarded on the score sheet, so really just cool to think about, you know, with my great friend and then also just, you know, as I said, all the great players that have gotten to play

3:10with. Those Josh Morrissey, 417 points now as a member of the Winnipeg Jets, that had him pass a Dustin Buflin on Saturday with that game winner against the Vancouver conucks. This hour brought you by Washington Car Wash, six 90 St. Anne's road and at washmetha.com VIP text when a VIP car wash and my good friends at washmetha coming out July from the Boston pizza studio, Boston pizza for growing my pizza and pasta bring the team to Boston pizza before we get into Josh Morrissey and Dustin Buflin, Jim Toe. Yes. Uh, this just coming down the pipe. I don't know breaking news. Oh, what a big jet center. Mark Schifley has been named the first star of the week in the NHL eight points in his last three games, I believe, three goals, five assists. You're right. Three plus five equals eight paired game winning goals as well.

4:11Across in Alberta where I was educated, that's eight, every single time, everywhere you go. That's eight. Doesn't matter what area of the world you end up on, three plus five still is eight. There's some government control countries where that'll be whatever they want to be. Yeah. It will be whatever Kim Jong-un says it is. But in this, in this land across the country, it's eight every time. Uh, um, yeah, and a perfect week. Of course, the Jets now five points out of that final playoff spot in the Western conference. I want to talk about that in the next segment after 30. We'll get to how close the Jets really are to the playoffs. I'm so excited for this next topic because it's going to get the crowd going. Yeah, too. We're going to get the text. I want to hear from you 204 780 68 68 204 780 68 68. Let's, um, but I do have to say two quick things. Yes, go ahead. It's a, it's a note to you as well. Um, I go down quite often to empty cup here and I get a coffee off Chris and Ash and Chris is dad Gary's a long time listener. Mm-hmm. So I want to say. Today's segment is brought to you by Gary for no other reason than Gary is an awesome

5:14name. I wanted to have a buddy. You had a bulldog name Gary and he was always like, Gary, sit, Gary, go outside. I don't think of this Gary that way. I just think Gary's doing a fine job raising an outstanding daughter. It's his hard work that makes his country great. That's for listening for Jets at new. Wow. Thank you. The other one is is my youngest had, well, both kids had a hockey tournament this weekend. My youngest is out of tournament. He's playing at five years old and we've met this great couple that lives by us and stuff. And their mother wanted to meet me after the game, uh, her mother. Yeah. And I was like, what? And she's like, um, came out and said, Oh, I just love Jets at noon. She goes, you know, four years ago, I think her nephew or son or somebody said, you don't know anything about hockey when the Jets lost or not out and said, you don't know anything about hockey. She goes, I went to work and I started listening to you guys at Jets at noon and Kenny and Renny and everybody else and I listen every day and I think you guys do a great job and I know so much about the Jets now and all that and I was like, except for from our show, right? Except for my. Yeah. You got more dumb than your brilliant lady I could tell, but you lost knowledge.

6:15You know less. If you're listening to us to teach you hockey, you're going to end up with, with, you're going to know things that aren't true. Yeah. So I'm going to get a bad education and her husband was with her and I said, well, thank you very much. Appreciate it. I was along the cam on the show on Monday. Thank you. She was excited. We might mention it. I often think of calling in but I never I go, you call in Friday, you might win a car wash. She goes, oh, I would love that. And then I looked at her husband and just said, and romance. Yeah. And she said, he has no idea what you're talking about. He doesn't listen. Well, he should be listening. So that's kind of slight on him, isn't it? Credit to you on both cases about how many people listen and take it in Gary and the lovely, um, oh, what? The lovely, the lovely lady who's, okay, I thought you're going to mention her name and I thought you forgot her name. Oh. I don't know if I can mention her name. Okay. Okay. Her husband doesn't know the romance. Okay. Okay. Perfect. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, I just want to mention that. Let's move on. Okay. Perfect.

7:16And I just wanted to say, I want to get into this question. I'm going to ask you two, four, seven, eight, zero, six, eight, six, eight. Um, the Jets kicked the snot out of the Vancouver connox. They were lucky. It just felt like that goal from Valardi was coming with a beautiful goal from him. What a goalie. Uh, a dot that's just him in front of the net. And Mitch McClendon said on the broadcast literally the day before the game was practicing that after practice. Yeah. Um, just a great effort from the Jets. I just want to say that. I understand it's the connox. I understand that they sold off all that, um, but you, but they put together a great effort regardless of their opponent or whatever you want to attach to the Vancouver connox and what kind of team they are. Um, they dominated that game and, uh, they should have, that the game should have been seven or eight to two. They pounded the two knocks. Now, the key to the game, I was fortunate to be on the broadcast. I said, well, the key to the game for the connox is they got a, they got a work hard. Yeah. And they got a skate and they got a hope for the best. And that's kind of what happened. I thought the Jets, there was a point in that second period. I thought there was a Sran rap on the connox net keeping that puck out. I don't know how many. I've never seen a game where so many pucks just go across the crease and can't get tapped

8:16in or knocked in. Lankan and played pretty good, but the Jets were all over them and just couldn't bury them. You know, I, Lankan was okay. I mean, I'm not, I, he was lucky. Yeah. There was a lot of luck there. So yeah, he was, he made the saves when he needed to make them as, as, as much to keep the team in. I'm not going to totally discount him, but there was a lot of luck on the, on the side of the Vancouver connox. That game did not get out of hand because I was, I was, I was, well, I was watching and I was thinking if the Jets would have got a couple early, it would have, they would have just been able to coast the rest of the day, but they're just fighting back or I'm bearing hit a post real early and I thought if this gets out of the way, the best thing the connox did was, you know, get out of that first period. Okay, Tom, all right, Tom just text the show and we're going to get into this question to you and I'm, and I'm sorry, I'm derailing it. Tom says at the beginning of October, Cam, you adamantly stated at the Habs would not be in a playoff spot come the trade deadline. I heard that and put a reminder in my calendar on this day to demand, wink, a public apology from yourself to all Habs fans, never in a million years, how the, how do the Habs do

9:18with the trade deadline? Oh, they did absolutely nothing. Oh, that was great. I love that. So Habs, I know we're upset. So please proceed with your heartfelt apology and feel free to sing the praises of I'm in, of I'm in Demidov, smiley face, smiley face, smiley face, Demidov, Demidov, yeah, I don't even care to say his name right. You don't have to public apology for that. I say Demidov, I'll do it for you. Cam would take this opportunity to sincerely apologize to absolutely nobody, no one. And I appreciate everyone who listens to this show, but I appreciate the Habs fans, the least. And listen, I appreciate you, but you're at the bottom of the appreciation ladder. I appreciate it. Very far down there. I appreciate rock glass vents and his oiler ways, but I'm not apologizing for nothing. I might appreciate the oiler's fans more than the Habs fans that listen. This is a tough one for me because the Habs is who the flames played in the stand of the cup, lost one, one, one. But I did test the oilers, well, you know, I feel, but I dislike the Habs even more.

10:24Because all my friends were mostly like oiler or Habs fans. Yeah. Through their fathers. Again, I appreciate everybody. Thank you so much for listening being a part of the show, Tom. Thanks so much for texting in. That was a great text. Thanks, Tom. Keep this going. And I appreciate you putting it into your calendar or gesture, Tom, but he ain't apologizing for nothing. But I appreciate everyone listening to the show, but at the bottom of the ladder is the Habs fans, Tom. Just like you. So I appreciate you, but thanks so much for listening. Father-in-law is driving here right now in his Gallagher, Jersey. Oh god. I'm going to punch camp. I'm going to take care of him. So Josh Morrissey passing Dustin Bufflin on the all-time Winnipeg Jets 2.0 and as well as the Atlanta Thrasher's points from a defense win list with 417. Passing Dustin Bufflin. Yeah. So we get to play. Who would you rather? Who would you rather? No, that's not like that. Who would you rather have on your team? Josh Morrissey. Well, in rock radio, it's like that Dustin Bufflin debate.

11:26I'll tell you. Yeah. I would agree with that. Some in this city. Yeah. I would agree. When Dustin Bufflin was here, it gave me, it was kind of like Tony soprano. It was called many, many of times how sexy Tony soprano is and I was like, what? Yeah. And then I looked at myself and I go, maybe I do have a shot in life because I didn't get it. But many, many of the female fans like Dustin Bufflin. Yeah. He was a beast and just so strong and, yeah, I can see it. And I'm like, really? Yeah, I can see it. I can't, but I can see what people are saying, but Josh Morrissey, the NHL, the Brad Pitt of the NHL, Josh Morrissey, right? Yeah. But we're not doing that. Who would you rather? We're doing the actual, who would you rather? Who would you rather have on your team? You can't pick both. No. They're not on a pairing together. Don't check it out like that, 204 780 68 68 204 780 68 60, who'd you rather have? Josh Morrissey or Dustin Bufflin? Ask you this question first, Jim Tove. Well, here we go, Dustin Bufflin, 869 games, 177 points, or sorry, 177 goals, 525 points

12:34of 1094 penalty minutes. Yes. And a lot of those he could have shied of about 300 off, but he just added them on on his way to the box because he liked to have fun. If I'm going, I'm going to hear, here's a little side shot for you. I don't mind sitting there for longer. I get a rest. Yeah. I can rest longer. So I'll take another five here. But in 66 playoff games, he has 50 points and he won a Stanley Cup, of course, 74 penalty minutes. He was a, he was a totally different animal in the playoffs. Again, Dustin Bufflin, 869 games, 525 points. Josh Morrissey, 719 games, 417 points. Now the leader for now, of course, Chicago in Atlanta is where Dustin got a bunch of his. At 30 years old, from a hockey perspective, I need to build a winner. Somebody who's going to help keep the puck out of that, put up a ton of points, everything that comes along with it, everything else. I'm taking Josh Morrissey over Dustin Bufflin.

13:35You are. I am. Yes. As much as I like Dustin Bufflin, I was back to his Prince George Cougar days in the WHL, Brandon before that. I've watched his whole career. I enjoyed immensely watching him beat the wheels off defenseman for connox when he was moved up to forward. And how embarrassing really, Bradenewasco for connox fans, that's humiliating. To have a barely into the league defenseman move to a different position and own your team. It's like asking Adam Lauer to go play goal and all of a sudden he gets seven shutouts. That's how embarrassing it is for connox fans, but but Bufflin did that. But for Josh Morrissey, seven or 19 games, four and 17 points, 20 points and 54 playoff games. I just think he's the better all-round player and probably more skilled offensively. But if you want to have fun, if you want to just have fans out of their seats, if you want to get some points and see some guys get bowling pin rolled and beat up and a chuckle here and a look at the camera from through the glass, I mean, it's Dustin Bufflin.

14:40But of the two, I would take Josh Morrissey if I'm building a hockey team right now. Now, I'm going to do you, I'll give you my answer a second, but I'm going to defend your answer with some stats about Josh Morrissey. Josh Morrissey has had many more block shots than Dustin Bufflin. Wow. So, as time with with the Winnipeg Jets, Josh Morrissey has had 1,094 blocks, Dustin Bufflin only had 695. Just a different idea of what kind of player that that they were. They were failing the zone and as soon as the shot was too bad, he's like, feed me. So who is, who is, who is more, who is willing to put himself on the line more so? And I believe that that would be Josh Morrissey. Dustin Bufflin in terms of, oh, no, this, okay, this is what I want to say. Morrissey, Norris Voting, has been in the top 10 of Norris Voting three times. Yeah. Last year, he was fourth, the year before that, he was seventh, the year before that in 23, he was fifth. He's a perennial in there. Yeah.

15:40He's always top 10 Norris. Dustin Bufflin was only, the highest ever was, was in his only year with Atlanta, which was 2011, he was seventh in Norris Voting. So the, the powers that be recognized Josh Morrissey is a more consistent, a more stable, a more all around 200 foot, better defenseman than Dustin Bufflin. Yeah. However, I got to go with 33 over 44. Oh, really? I got to 1376 hits over the course of his time here in Winnipeg. He was an absolute force. He routinely played more average time on the ice now is a different situation, but he played 24 and a half minutes on the ice every single game on average for the Winnipeg Jets. No player I've seen has been, that is a Dustin Bufflin. He has a unique, a unique player in that national hockey league that we have not seen since

16:43he was completely irreplaceable, not that Josh Morrissey is, but there are more players that do what Josh Morrissey does than Dustin Bufflin. I will take the unique one in a million NHL player in Dustin Bufflin every single time. He was, when he was on the ice, you had to take note a lot more than, than Josh Morrissey. I'll take Dustin Bufflin. You're bang on on one thing is he had qualities that no other NHL player has. Yeah. And I've heard even NHL players say that that he's so unique that he can do things, you know, and that's, I mean, he can, don't get me wrong. He can fly. He can skate for a man that size. But to me, the better all-round player, even though there's some things that, that Bufflin has that no other player would have is, is the better all-round player is, especially for that position is Josh Morrissey, but the ton of fun, the physicality, he, Bufflin has the intangibles too, right? Like, Bufflin might be the last jet on the ice that you thought twice about.

17:43And maybe we should think about that for the lineup, but Dustin Bufflin was the last guy that could roll out into the ice, and there was guys that are like, no way. And they haven't had a guy like that since, and I would argue some other teams have had that. Now, you can take the toughest guy that jets have had, whether it's Palusso or other people like that, somebody would always go, well, they might not want to or might not have a chance, but they'll still do it. But Dustin Bufflin had that there, that on the ice, there was other players in league that go, I'll do just about anything, but I'm not doing that. So we're asking that question, Josh Morrissey, of course, passing Dustin Bufflin on the all-time defenseman points list for the Winnipeg Jets, 2.0, of course, including the Atlanta thrashers, and I'm going to rattle off some of these text messages that we're getting from somebody. Go ahead, Jim. Quickly that clip, you played of Josh, saying my good friend and how he came in. I remember, you know, Paul Marie saying that when Josh got called up, because I was there

18:46when he was doing the moose and Raider on January is when he started just excelling. Like, it took him about three months in the pros at the HL level. And then he was like, and Dustin came to me and said, give me the kid. And I always like that quote, because I'm like, Dustin's probably smart enough to sit there and go, this kid's pretty good. Let me. Yeah, I'll be the veteran who steps up and takes on the kid here. Yeah, didn't he say that? That was pretty good. I remember that. I was actually thinking about that when I was listening to the audio. I was like, I remember that, Paul, let us say, like, give me the kid. Yeah, it wasn't like you went over and said, give me no disrespect to Logan Stanley, but he took a couple of years. We all know that. It was like, give me the kid there. Like Josh is very good. And so then he's like, give me the kid. I'll take care of him. Usually we, Jim, this is lopsided. This is lopsided. Let's go. David says, as much as I love Morrissey, I would take buff. That's from David. This texture says buff. Linda says buff was real entertainment. Matthew says both Morrissey and bufflen are amazing defensemen in different ways. And for me, it's hands down, Dustin Bufflen, one of a kind. And there are a few players built like him in the history of the league.

19:48This texture says buff all the way. Everyone had their head on a swivel and would get rid of the puck fast when he was coming. He was a one off. Rui says Dustin Bufflen all the way. Pat says, hey, guys, no comparison with big buff and Morrissey, big buff, of course, everyone stayed away from him. Guys would just touch him and they would go flying into the boards. We need more buffs, Pat. And yes, I'm a girl. Oh, hey, hello. I'm assuming Patricia. Thank you so much for the text. Ron says, love today's question. Morrissey is an elite player in today's game. But I'll take buff the unicorn 100% of the time over Josh. Our team has never been the same since he decided to leave because there's no one else out there like buff cheers. Yeah, but fair enough, like I'm not discounting him, but like Josh is an Olympian for team Canada. I just, well, that's why I wanted to bring up that. He doesn't have the pedigree of buff and the intangibles of the fear, the fear element, the absolute power and the force of it. But defensively, you know, he was great defensively if he was 19, 20 minutes a night.

20:54When he got up to 25, 26, he became a liability. Josh Morrissey is never a liability in the defensive. That's why I wanted to bring up the Norse voting where Morrissey, particularly these last three years, has been consistently hasn't finished lower than seventh. Yeah. Buffalo in the highest ever got was only once, only once he was even involved in the anywhere close to it. And he was seventh when that year with Atlanta, so like, I don't, I don't think the conversation is who's the better all around defense, but it's just who do you rather watch, right? Well, it's about who'd you rather have in your team? And I just think, I just think that Buffalo brings those intangibles. There's, there's players in the league that do similar things that Morrissey does. There's no one that I've ever seen before. And they're likely will never come that does what Buffalo does. Dustin Bufflin's ever had more than a 56 point season. Yeah. Josh Morrissey's total was 76, 69, 62. Like he produces more. He defends better, but I'd get what, I mean, look, when you're talking about the Mount Rushmore of Jets player popularity wise, it begins with Dustin, and it might be, if there's

21:57four heads on the mountain, it might be two of them or both. He read about that. But I'm just, if you're picking the best player, I'll take Morrissey. Darryl, okay, I'll just rattle off the last ones here. Darryl says, big buff all day long, seven days a week, 365 days a year. Susie says, buff, oh, yes, he can rough me up in the corner anytime. See, this is what I mean when Buffalo's running wild in this city. Well, I think Brad Pitt made a movie in this city, and Bufflin was still more popular. Ron says the difference between wanting Buffalo and Morrissey is like asking if you'd like a prize horse or a unicorn, race horses can be impressive, but unicorns are once in a lifetime. That's a good text. And this texture says 33, of course, the way Buffalo man had a no chic and Miller story in the 2018 playoffs was just unbelievable. I miss the big guy. Bridget says buff was a human wrecking ball. And Conrad is the lone texture that said Morrissey, Conrad says, I'm taking Morrissey is these the kind of cornerstone you can build a defensive core and a team around quarterbacks the PP and a solid penalty killer. That one from Conrad.

22:57And some rationality to the conversation, no one shenanigans are going on in a game. And after the whistle and players on the opposing team like would see stuff and they get upset, right? When he pulled those two players out of the scrum against Vegas, I don't think there was a lot of golden night sitting on the bench going, hey, he can't do that. I think there's a lot of golden night's players going, oh my gosh, look at the force of this man. Yeah. No doubt about that. Well, by watch method car wash 690 St. Anne's road and at wash method dot com VIP text will win a VIP car wash from our good friends at wash method coming at you live from the Boston pizza studio, Boston pizza for gourmet pizza and pasta bring the team to Boston pizza. So here's another question I want to ask you. You can keep weighing in on Morrissey or Buffalo in 204 7800 68 68 if you like, but we'll pivot here just a just a second about the path of the playoffs. So this morning, the Winnipeg Jets are five points out of a playoff spot, which honestly Jim, if we were talking, let's go back to February 24th before they were in Vancouver

23:58on the 25th, and you tell me that this, they be only five points out by now by March 9th, I would struggle to believe you. The odds for the Jets making the playoffs are still heavily favored against them from the odds makers. So into three separate sites, went to moneypuck dot com, who had them at 15.7% and went to hockey reference dot com, which was 11.2% and went to hockey stats dot com, which was 16%. And then I went to playoff status dot com, which was 21%. So most people have them in and around 15% just to make the playoffs. So there's still an 85% likelihood that the Jets will miss the post season. So I the teams that they're still chasing, they're still chasing down the predators, they're chasing down the kings and then chasing down San Jose and in Seattle, who is the team that's holding that that final playoff spot that are five points ahead of the one to pick Jets. So I ran the numbers at this current pace of the Jets picking up 10 of a possible 12 points.

25:03If they can keep this up, they will pass and this is all assuming that Seattle, who's only gained four points in the standings, they have a two and four record since coming back from the Olympic break. The LA Kings have a two and four record since coming back from the Olympic break, so they've gained four points in the standings and Nashville predators who are two, three and one since coming back from the Olympic break, they've gained five points in the standings over a possible 12. So assuming that those three teams continue at that trajectory, which of course is far from a guarantee, the Jets will pass Seattle, Los Angeles and Nashville and five to six games. And only if the Jets can maintain the pace that they're on right now, okay? The thing is, if San Jose continues at the pace that they're going at and the clip that they're going at, where they've grabbed eight of a possible 12 points from their six games, they're three, one and two, it's still going to take 15 to 17 games for them

26:04to pass San Jose and gain those four points on them, okay? So the challenge is still ahead and it's still a massive one. A lot of intangibles and it would take, even, okay, let's say the San Jose continues to win, grabbing eight of a possible 12 points out of the remainder of their 20 games left in their 21 games. Amplett, the Jets have 20. It's going to take 15 to 17 games for them to pass them, okay? So they're going to need, they still essentially control their sort of control their destiny. Seattle's not playing great, the Kings aren't playing great, the Predators aren't playing great. And I still think down the stretch, those teams have the possibility to sort of fall off the map. I'm going to throw in one more caveat for you. The last game of the regular season, yes, I believe on April 11th, the 16th April 16th against at home. The San Jose Sharks. Correct.

27:04It could literally be winning it in. I think the team they're really truly chasing here is San Jose. Yes. And it's going to take, and I'm telling you right now, it's going to take all 20 of those games to try to catch the sharks. They could possibly do this, Kim, and I'm going to add in the two overtime games in California in overtime. They get a bounce here and there. And I know what it could have should have, why do you keep bringing this up to till they didn't? But if they did, they'd be three points back right now with six more home games, six straight home games, but they're five points back right now. They made hay so far. They're obviously saying this is I think you figured out how many points can they lose as the problem? Okay. And they can lose seven, right? So right now they have 62 points. So with 20 games left, it means they have 40 points, potential points that they can grab. So if you add 40 to 62, again, with my Manitoba East St. Paul math, they can get a possible of 102 points still in the standings.

28:06So here's the. So so do you do believe that they still need 95 points to make the playoffs? I still think they need somewhere around there. They can lose seven or eight points so that so there's seven or eight points that they can lose. So if they lose four games over their final 20, all of a sudden, I don't think the math is in their favor anymore. They can't lose four games in regulation. So let me or I think it's so it's pretty close to being over at that point. Unless we see the Kraken, the sharks, the Kings and the Predators all outright collapse. And I don't think that's possible because the Predators get this gym. They have two games left against the Kraken. They have one game left against the Jets. They've three games left against San Jose and two against the Kings. Like a huge portion of the Predators schedules against the teams that are in this mix. So that's why that lost point in San Jose. I know. So just the lost one, but they game. So that's why four games. They have four games to lose, I think, out the rest of the season to keep themselves alive here. The Kings, of course, have two games left against Nashville, one against Seattle.

29:07The sharks have three against Nashville and one against Winnipeg. The Kraken have two against Nashville and one against Winnipeg and the Jets have one against Nashville, one against Seattle and then that one April 16th that you mentioned at the very end of the season. So how did they do this, Cam? Well, they went for Oh and two since the Olympic break. But how they really did it is in their last 20 games, they went 11, four and five. They got 11 wins and they got points and five more games. And then they lost four. Yeah. They do that again. They're in. But they got to do it again. And then, you know, hope that, you know, the Seattle's don't get like a Seattle going to keep on this pace that they're currently on during that 20 games. But they are 11, four and five in their last 20 games. If they can do the last 20 games again or the next 20 games, which is all there is left at 11, four and five, they could get in. Now when you look at the schedule, like the six home games at home are good. Anaheim's tough.

30:08Anaheim to me is a 50, 50 game. You got to at least get a point. But if you can beat Anaheim, you then have the Rangers. But then you have like what you had on Saturday, right? You have to win those games. Now a lot of people are going to go, well, you went to overtime. It doesn't matter that they pounded the connects for three periods and heavily outplayed them. You still could have lost that game. The games that you have to win like the connects game or the overtime game against Chicago. The win against Tampa Bay was a bonus because Tampa Bay is pretty good. So tomorrow night against the ducks is 50, 50, then you have the Rangers. You have to win these next two games. You have to get three out of a possible four minimum, but you have to win these next two games. And then Saturday, you host Colorado, GM Colorado could be two of the seven eight points you could lose. And then you go back to back with St. Louis, which I would presume Eric Connery is going to get that start on the Sunday. However, you should beat St. Louis. Nashville comes to town. Another as far as I'm concerned with Anaheim and other 50, 50 game.

31:08They have to beat this. They got to win the 50, 50 games. You have to win the games you should win like the Rangers and the Blues. And then you go to Boston, Pittsburgh and the Rangers again. You come home Vegas and Colorado back to back, that's your week right there. Even if you do everything we've talked about right, the week of the 24th, when you host Vegas, you host Colorado and then you go to Colorado, that'll be the difference. That's the season right there. But you have to have the points from the previous games to get to the week of the 24th to put yourself in a position of that. You have to. Yeah, that's totally true. That's a lot of ifs, right? Well, and I do they have to add in health and you got to add in for and from those games against Colorado, they got to pull in. Do they have to pull in four or or do you want out of those six available, those minimum, you have to get to win against Colorado. You have to beat them once and you need to win can be an overtime or shoot out, but you've got to get two points out of the game. You have to take one of those other games at least to overtime. You need to get three out of six points because it's like, okay, if you lose those three

32:12points in those three games against Colorado, I don't think there's anything. I don't think you should be ashamed of yourself, necessarily, but you have to get three because if you're losing four points out of the six against those three games against Colorado, there's 20 games left. Yeah, and they got to do what they did in the last 20 games, including Olympic breaking between, but they went 11, four and five in their pre last 20 games. They need to go 11, four and five in the last 20 games to do this. It gets more ominous when you get into April, but if you're in the picture, like they could very well be if they do this in the playoff picture by April. But then to hold on to that playoff spot is a whole different story because you're at Dallas, you're at Columbus, you come home to Seattle, you go to St. Louis, you come home for Philadelphia, then you go back to back Vegas, Utah before you come home and wrap up the season against San Jose, but just to get to April, you have to. There's clearly from that game on the weekend, there's not one person in the room that doesn't think they can do this.

33:13It's everybody outside the room. That was a crazy night in upstate New York. Sabers lightning putting together 15 total goals, 102 total penalty minutes as a host Buffalo outlasted Tampa 8, 7, just crazy sequence of events. The Sabers are now first in the Atlantic division. That number of goals and penalty minutes, Jim, have not combined since 1994. So I was going to say that that was a game from the 80s, I really, I really like Brandon Hagel as a player, but that is, that has to be, I saw you got the max fine. He was fine. Yeah, he wasn't. The players have to start going, there was four sucker punches there. And he, you could really, it just happened to be the anniversary of when Todd Bertuzzi did that to more sucker punch him from behind and drove his face into the ice. Yeah, I meant, of course, yeah, the anniversary of that.

34:14Are we not in a better place where they go, I'm sorry, Hagel, here's your five game suspension. Well, I think, stop sucker punching guys. If somebody wants to fight you, fight them if they don't want to fight you. Colleen was not defending himself whatsoever. Well, because he probably thought I'm not going to take, I'm not going to win this fight. I'm not a fighter, A, but then B, well, he's not going to sucker punch me. It should have been a suspension, at least how is it not a suspension? George Parris, baby, George Parris, he, you know what? He actually sucks at his job. He does. George, Colin, Colin to the show, two, four, seven, eight, zero, sixty eight, sixty eight. By the way, my, I have questions about why you decided to give Mark Schifle still all those years ago. I'm still bitter about it. Why you gave Mark Schifle four games, which I'm, I'm okay with the four games for that. But then how does Hangel not get, where is the consistency? How does Hagel not get? If we play, I'm never going to get over the Mark Schifle. If Schifle gets four, then why doesn't Hagel for several sucker punches get at least

35:15three? Explain to me a guy that was never suspended before Parris gets four games all those years ago in the playoffs. You're upset. I'm upset. And the grandmother is talking to Nancy at the start of the show is upset. Yeah. Do not upset Nancy. I won't upset. He's a loyal listener. She too. Thank you for much of bringing a wasco for producing the show. Bryson Brandon. Thank you. Thank you, Bryson, a wasco for producing the show. No worries, Tim. Brandon Brandon. Brandon. Thanks so much for bringing a wasco. I love this respect. Now I understand why Hagel throws sucker punches. Oh, there might be one coming. James Toth. I love this. You're such a great coach. I paid my dues. All right, everybody. See you later. We'll be back a game date. Tomorrow. Yeah. Big one. Yeah. Docs. John Carlson and the docs. Thanks so much for listening. Find us on YouTube. Give us a subscription there. Give us a follow on Instagram, on X, on TikTok. Check out the videos that we post there daily throughout the week. Yeah.

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