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1:04I'm Tyson Rwicki. Alongside Jim Toath here on this fine Thursday afternoon, coming to you live from the Boston Pizza Studio, where this September, kids eat free all month long. And this hour is also brought to you by Washmet the car wash on 690 St. Anne's Road and at washmethod.com. Jim, what would be your dream job? Besides this one, obviously. But do you have another dream job growing up? It's actually this one. Not another one. You didn't want to be a, I don't know, a lifeguard or something? A lifeguard. Even when Baywatch came out, I didn't want to be a lifeguard. It seemed like a lot of work. Too much responsibility for me. Can I get my shirt on? Do I have to take my shirt off? No. But I, wow, when you're a kid, I always want to be a police officer. But I would think dream job would be something around artists. Like a rock star, not even a rock star. Like if I could be a drummer and a band that did okay. Yeah, I'd be a good life. That'd be a good life. I'm a night person. That's why I love covering Jets games. One other dream job, then I'd be pretty fun. Emergency backup goalie.

2:05You know what? For the Winnipeg Jets. It's kind of like, could you be our emergency drummer? Sure. Yeah, sure. I'll come in. Just in case you get drunk and falls down. But joining us now is the newest member of the Winnipeg Jets emergency backup goalie, Cole Kailer. Cole, thanks so much for taking the time to join us today. How's the summer been for you? Probably a pretty eventful I'll say. Yeah, I would, a eventful to say the least. Started like a normal summer and then kind of towards the end of July, a little bit of a curveball has thrown my way and, you know, a new door opened, a new opportunity and just excited for it. Well, Cole, we're excited for you. So I can understand how you're excited. Take us through that. So how does it become that you get this job? You know, to be quite honest, I got an email from Chevy and Jenna in HR there. I, you know, at first almost thought it was a spam email. They would verify it. So, you know, they were kind of gauging interest in the role and

3:07they set up a time for an interview and things kind of just took off from there. And can you tell us a little bit about your journey in hockey and kind of just how you got to this point? Yeah, you know, moved away from home at 15 years old to, you know, pursue my dream of playing pro hockey, started out with the Camelos Blazers in the Western League, played two years there, actually eventually got cut from that team spent a full year in junior A and the BCHL. And from there, I was able to move on to the Portland Winterhawks and, you know, became their starter for two seasons and was able to sign on NHL contract, which was, you know, a dream come true at that time and was very fortunate to play four years professionally and a year for the most as well. Yeah, I remember you with the moves for sure. And so you come to this journey, what are you doing now? And clearly, you know, you get this email, is there a trial involved? Is there some kind of like process to this? Or I love the fact that you thought it was spam. I think if somebody asked me if I wanted to be a goalie, I would look into it

4:09right away, but you probably thought, what would the email say that you thought it was spam? Well, just the fact that I'm getting an email from somebody at the Winnipeg Jets, you know, I have a professional hockey in four years, right? Yeah. Okay. Being in the workforce now, we have all kinds of IT training. So if you're keeping your eyes out for everything and it's like, well, is this actually for real? Cause it seems a little bit too good to be true, right? Right. So then to the point of my original question, sorry, I'm so excited to have you on to the point of the original question. So then what happens like you just asked, you must still be playing. So yeah, I played two years of senior hockey, you know, after I finished playing competitively. And then from there, it kind of moved more into coaching and then you kind of hop out play some three on three with your buddies here and there. But you know, if you're always kind of skating, I mean, just because you leave hockey at a high level, you know, you still love the game. You still like to put the skates on. So you still get to do that every once in a while.

5:09And yeah, it's just been, you know, it's been a good transition away, but also, you know, excited to be back and involved in hockey at a high level again. So the emergency backup goalie role is for every single game, not just the home game that's going to be home and away. Have you been told about just what kind of that's going to be like and traveling with the team and just the what, what it's all going to be once you, you're on the road with the jets? Yeah, I mean, you know, there's obviously a few question marks at the beginning because this is a brand new role. You know, so for the team, it's the first year. So we're going to do a little bit of learning, I think, as we go, we'll start walking before we run. But, you know, to start out, it'll be, you know, practicing with the team as needed and, you know, most likely on a daily basis, kind of doing the work afterwards with the guys that want to get some extra stuff in and, you know, all the grunt work. And then obviously, like he said, I got to be presented every game. So traveling with the team on the road and, and, you know, it's kind of a

6:09role where if they say jump, I say, how high? I'm kind of there to help out in any way that I can. So. So how are you able to go about the, the traveling part? Like what is your day job and then how much sort of mulling over did you have to do before accepting this one? So I spent the last four years actually working in our family business, green value equipment here in Southern Manitoba. And then for the previous two years, I've been our turf department manager. So, you know, all of our lawn and garden equipment, compact tractors, zero to a hundred horsepower and our gator utility vehicles been managing that department and, you know, thankfully, our upper management, you know, they understood the situation and they just were very happy for me. So they said, you know what, if you want to give this a go, we're not going to hold you back. So, you know, it was very flexible with them and just thankful that we were able to do that. And it's the dream of so many kids here in Canada to just be a part of an

7:10NHL franchise. And while it's not the starting goal, tending role, it's still a really huge accomplishment and just kind of goes into the work that you've done and the help that you've received over the years from family and friends. Just how cool is it to be living that dream that you have? Yeah, it's neat. Like the opportunity comes along and, you know, I was thinking about it. I'm like, obviously, didn't accomplish the dreams, like you said, you know, making the NHL become in the starting goal. You know, maybe I thought I was going to be when I was 10 years old. But this kind of gives an avenue to live that out for for a season, right? You get to be around the locker room, see how the team travels. Just, you know, be a part of it and be immersed into the culture of the Winnipeg Jets. So, yeah, it's somewhat hard to put into words, but it's just such a cool opportunity. And yeah, I'm just so excited. Now, you kind of don't want to get into a game given the situation in which you would get into a game, but I got to thank you.

8:10Hope to get into a game. You know what? To be quite honest, best case scenario is that I do not touch the ice. I've never heard from you again out of the center. But I mean, hey, if it came down to it, I mean, it would be, yeah, obviously extremely cool. It's, it's pretty rare for people to be able to say they've skated in a national hockey league game. Obviously, I'd do you guys do not see me, but if it were to happen, yeah, that would be, you know, a cherry on top time stand. And you know what, Cole, I understand you wouldn't want injuries or anything to make this happen. But I, you know, these are the things that you've played so long that I would love to see it. I would love for you to get into a game. I'd love for you to get a win. I think that would be awesome. And so I would understand that part of this job is not having that creep in your mind, maybe. Yeah, I mean to an extent, right? I mean, for me, I've always been pretty much a day by day guy when I was playing.

9:11So, you know, every day show up, do the best you can do and just kind of be where your feet are. And, you know, if you do that, the rest takes care of itself. And like I said, I'm going to support Roll. So if it were to happen, obviously extremely cool. But at the same time, that means something went wrong for somebody else. And, you know, you never wish that upon another guy. So, yeah, we'll see how it goes. It would be really neat, but it's obviously, you know, I'm not expecting it. But if it happened, I'd be ready for it. Who's up after you? Is it Wade Flarity? And you can tell him I asked that. To be quite honest, I haven't even thought that far. I think that on the only insurance we've got. So. Well, this is awesome. I love the fact that the NHL changes rules. And I love the fact that somebody like yourself gets this opportunity and can work it into the, you know, your daily life, hopefully for a couple of years. And get to do this and experience the NHL life for sure. That's awesome. Yeah, cool. And right before we let you go here, I want to ask you, you know, we've been talking about this emergency backup role.

10:12But is there something in your mind from your playing days that really sticks out as being kind of a core memory for you? Oh, so many. Honestly, probably the coolest moment of my hockey journey. I got to play in one game seven in the Western hockey league. And number one, play off hockey is as fun as it gets. But to have the opportunity to play in a game seven at a really competitive level. And, you know, obviously we won the game. So that makes it a lot better. But just that game that day, you know, the nerves and everything, all the emotions that go into that and then coming out on top, just that feeling, you know, of accomplishing that. That's that's one of the biggest things that I can remember. And, Cole, I only bring this up because I have a five year old who desperately wants to be a goalie and in total honesty, I'm, I keep trying to talk them out of it. No, I'm just kidding. But what would you say to kids like playing a goal at the goalie position? And especially when it gets to that, I think it's you nine here is, is they don't.

11:14And then at nine, you sort of start getting goal tenders and, and everybody gets a shot. And then you kind of pick from there at your own journey. What would you say to kids nine, 10? There's a kid on my block who's 12 and he can't wait for the season to start. He's a goalie. What do you would you say to young kids like this? I think, you know, the biggest thing is just have fun. I mean, when you're young, you're playing for the joy of the games. So have fun with it and, and then work hard, right? Like have fun and work hard. If you do those two things, there's going to be some good results that come out of it. So I don't think it's anything overly complicated. Just, you know, enjoy yourself, work as hard as you can and see where it leads you. Cole, really appreciate you taking the time to join us. Join the rest of the summer. Get ready for the the NHL season and all the best. Yeah, we'll probably see you around the ring. Yeah, no, that sounds great. Thank you very much for having me guys. That was cool. That was cool. That was cool. Kailer, would it pick Jets emergency backup goalie? And I was on the start earlier this morning, Jim, and it's just a cool story at the end of the day. And it's awesome. You know, you see the guys like David Ayers, Scott Foster,

12:14getting to games in the NHL, make some big saves. It actually led NHL hockey. It's, it's, it's just an awesome story. And I would think 99% of these guys will never get in. But the fact that I love the rule changes because you get to experience the lifestyle, right? Like I was back in the days where the the XU of M goalies would come up and have the meal and just sit there. And they would be a rotation of them. And you never knew if you have to go in or not, right? The idea that you get to actually experience some NHL life to this and some travel and everything else. I think that's I love that they did this rule. And then to find a 28 year old who can do it, right? But it sounds like a great guy. I'm really I couldn't. When I got that email about the the cold-calor signing is the emergency backup. I was like, this is awesome. It's the best. It's yeah, it's like somebody going, you know, you'll never, you know, we we're allowed to carry a 14th forward. And it can't be anybody on our roster. So if you want to do this and you can work it in your work life and stuff like that, it's awesome. But I like what he also said there. Like this wouldn't be happening if he didn't just love the game and kept playing it and stuff like that.

13:14So that's the part that I enjoy that just because you're not in high competitive level. You still are on the ice and you still love the game. And so that just makes a story even better. I mean, if there was an emergency forward, first thing I'm doing, laying down face first in front of a shot saying, I got to people on IR now. I want the IR. All right, I just love the conversation on the family business. Dad, I'm sorry, we're doing the California run. I got to go. You got to find somebody else's. I told you. The server's always the California. Well, get the schedule. I can't be in this week. We're going to take a quick break. And when we come back, former flames defenseman, Mackenzie Weger had some really good comments about playing in Canada. And it's kind of, it's relevant right now. Yes. And well, maybe we won't mention his name. Maybe we won't in the next segment. But you have to find out who shall not be named the rest of the week. Should we say tomorrow, free fall Friday is going to be hard. That's going to be a hard one. Let's just do it today. Let's send it. Let's send it to call it to the listeners right now. If you're going to call in, make sure you go and he should not be named.

14:15We'll be right back with more jets that noon right after this. It's a tough question because as a Canadian born player and to play in Calgary, for me personally, I had a great experience in Canada. Calgary was an absolute boss to play in that city. And I think there's great things to come for that team, especially obviously everybody knows when that new arena is built. They're going to be right in a sweet spot with all their prospects and whatnot. But it's a bit unfortunate to see players wanting out of Canada just because I know how passionate. You know, all the fans are there and all the citizens in each city. And how much they love their hockey and their start players. So you don't like to see it, but at the same time, you know, there's a lot of teams out here in Utah. There's a lot that has to offer a little bit more than you'd say in Canada.

15:21But at the end of the day, I think we're all hockey players and it doesn't really matter where you play. You just want to play in the NHL. It's the best league in the world and to represent any jersey that you wear. It means a lot and it's an honor. That was mammoth defense. Been McKenzie-weager, formerly a part of the Calgary Flames. He was traded at this past trade deadline to Utah and has some good words about Canadian markets. But it is kind of interesting, Jim, because there were some rumors that McKenzie-weager declined a trade to go to Ottawa during the trade that deadline. Yeah, but look, no offense. Ross Lovato has come in here, but who is a brighter future? The Utah mammoth or the Ottawa Senators? I could understand like, you know, to me, it's about the team. McKenzie-weager sounds like a guy who wants to win. And so that's where it begins and ends. But I think this is overplayed too much. And maybe I'm different than today's young athlete. I get it if you could leave practice at noon and go golf every day or go to the beach. Gabe Vilardi said that when he came from LA. Was it nice to go to the beach after practice?

16:23Yes, it was. I get that. But he goes, at the end of the day, I'm a hockey player. What do you want to do? You want to play in front of hockey fans that are rabid and wild and want the team to win. There's negativity around teams in every city. That's not going to go away. But on the average day of an 84 game, used to be 82 game regular season. And the road travel and everything else, where you live for 41 games should not factor in this much. It just shouldn't in my opinion. It's when the family's game you have to, right? You have a short career of eight maybe years. I think the average is less than five still. Go play somewhere and play. And to me, if you want to leave over winning, I get that. Because that's what drives most athletes. But the idea that like he says, Utah has more than Calgary. I've been to Calgary. Every athlete there loves going to Banff, loves the fishing, loves the outdoors, loves the city life, everything else. Utah has more than that. I'm surprised to hear that, but I've never been to Utah.

17:24Not salt like city. I've been to Utah. I just, this idea that when you go to the rank and leave at one and have lunch and then, you know, go for dinner and maybe you could get a, I can't golf because it's winter. That's a lot of places in the NHL2. Six months a year. This is getting outrageous. It is. But that's the way the modern athlete works now. They just, they operate just a little bit differently than athletes in the past. Half the time you're injured, half the time you're tired and have to nap in the afternoon. Anyways, you're not going to the beach every day if you play in LA. No, you're not. No, you're not. But we're going to have to take a quick break for the 1230 news. Don't forget to call the Boston Pizza Hockey Hotline 204 780 6800. We're this September. Kids eat free all month long. That's right. Kids eat free all September at BP. Conditions apply. We'll be giving away a $50 BP gift card tomorrow on free for all Friday. Yeah, for all Friday. But we'll take a quick break. We'll have more jets at noon right after the 1230 news.

18:25Welcome back to Jetset noon. Tyson Rwicki along with Jim Toath. Coming to you live from the Boston Pizza Studio with this September. Kids eat free all month long. This hour is also brought to you by Wash Method Car Wash 690 St. Anz wrote in out wash method dot com. We've been talking a lot about American players wanting out of Canadian franchises. I'm just to finish my thought there. Like I get, you know, we're in shorts to the rank. If you like that lifestyle, if you have the power to choose and all that. I just think this is getting out of control. You have a short career. It's six month season. If you're lucky, you make the playoffs. Suck it up. Yeah. Like literally, and you mentioned family, and that's a great one. Because I understand what it's like if you're from Europe or if you're from, you know, New Jersey and you move to Winnipeg and you're sitting here and you're you're your your spouse or your boyfriend leaves on a six game two week road trip in the middle of February. What am I going to do here? Well, I just I'm not trying to be that guy, but also my career will be over shortly.

19:27And we can live wherever the heck we want to live. Yeah. It's a very privileged privilege to light at the end of the day. So it gave the Lardi like moved here and his girlfriends from LA. I don't know if they're like I think they're still together and stuff. But he signed the deal and he's like, you want to play in front of hockey fans and stuff. Like I just, it's getting out of hand. And this is going to lead into our next guest too about the perception of of auto on stuff. But I just here in McKenzie, wait, we're just a breath of fresh air like Cal. He's getting a new arena and I don't know the idea that when you leave the rank at noon or one and you're bored and you have to leave town or have another game within within 24 to 48 hours. And you can't live anywhere. That's ridiculous to me. Yeah, no, it's totally fair. And you mentioned that they're Jim, but joining us now is Ross pays the cost to be the boss. Levitan. Wow. You'll be out of your hand. How long you work on that one. And I'm not a guest, guys. I hope at this point I'm a friend of the show. Oh, absolutely. A good friend of the show. Wow. And we could use some friends on the show. Yeah, we. Okay. We'd be our best friend.

20:28Yeah, he invite me on to relive literally the worst day of the summer for me. That's that's awesome. But you're a heartbeat in Toronto. You quickly, you mentioned McKenzie Weeger. Wow, there's some reports that he wouldn't move his no trade clause to come home to Ottawa. So you can say whatever you want, but at the end of the day, he left. I referenced that as and he ends up in Utah. That's a guy who wants to win no disrespect. Yeah. But I would think if he's being dealt and he goes, no, I wouldn't want to go to Ottawa. And then Utah calls, I would look at that as a player and go, Utah has a really good young team that's about to make the playoffs. Yeah. This is a brighter future for me. And I mean, the shiny news. I do, right? They have the brand new facilities, everything like that. So yeah, fair enough. So what about the the Brady Kachuck situation and Connor Hallibuk situation? Like one of the parallels there in both of these cases, like are they pretty similar? Or what was what was kind of the Chucks thought process? Well, it's funny. I'd implore people to go back and check out the day after the contract trade happened. I was on with Jim and Kelly and my cope has just done a complete 180.

21:30Things will get better for sure. And obviously they haven't played a game since then. But with Brady, I think a part of why Sense fans have been able to move on as quickly as they have is that the drama, the storylines, the rumors that just surrounded Brady for like literally five years, it was getting so tiring. And Brady alluded to that. It is post end of season presser saying like, yeah, like it's become a distraction while buddy, like doing a podcast in the Florida Panthers practice facility with panthers jerseys hanging around everywhere. And your dad saying, oh, when's your contract up? Things like that. Like he kind of brought a lot of it upon himself. But I think at the end of the day, he's a cacchuck and we saw Keith leave. We saw Matthew leave, obviously much more recently and easier example. The thing that I think really bothered me about Brady leaving is that whenever the rumors would come up, he would be 100% sure that would never happen. The prime series that came out the behind the scenes.

22:31There's literally a scene of him tying his son's skates at a rink in Ottawa saying, people think I'm going to fall my brother. I would never do that. I want to have my own path 15 months later. He's got a one team no trade list and it's to the Florida Panthers. So I do a lot of things where it's like, you can call him, we call him Trady Cacchuck on the podcast, a little trader. And it just rolls off the tongue nicely. So Halibut's a bit different though, right? From the standpoint of there was never really like rumors or off ice stories like, oh, is he going to stay or is he going to leave, right? With Brady, I had the rose color glasses on, but without them, like it was bound to happen eventually. But the reason we wanted to have you honest, because you're in that rare, you cover the scenes and have a podcast. And then you work here in Winnipeg and help cover the Jats. My two teams on my trade list. And two of the teams, the two best players, one out. And I know it's not like Halibut has never, I believe two years ago when he said I want to be

23:31a jet for life. I believe in I think at that time he did. But with five years left and having two years ago said, I want to be a jet for life and all this not only that, you won the president's trophy. You won the president's trophy. You won a hard trophy. All this kind of stuff. I would think that, you know, that's what I wanted to say. How's this going over? Because eventually, whether it's now, whether it's six months from now, Halibut's not going to be a jet anymore. Yeah. And I can't imagine once the dust is set, all that all that he said, she said in the back and forth is over, there's going to be a ton of jets fans are going to go, our best player just left. And he's not here anymore. And how that, you know, resounds with fans. Well, I'm an avid listener to jets at noon. And I love how you guys get the listeners to call in and the passion is undeniable about Connor Halibut. And like, he's 33. So another difference is Brady's 26, right? Like Halibut, I know Halibut got in the league later on. Brady was right after the draft into the NHL. So in terms of years, I think Halibut still has a couple on him. But he is a veteran player and it just feels like, I don't know if I want to say maturity

24:34because everyone's going to do their own path to what's best for them. And the NHL has clearly gone that route over the last number of years. But when it comes to Halibut, I understand fans that are frustrated. But I think there's a lot of fans that are frustrated with the process of how the teams being put together. I think Eeler's leaving in and of itself. Like what message did that send to the rest of the team? Like in the locker room, they knew how good of a player he was. They knew he wasn't getting all the opportunities that maybe he deserved. You guys, I'm sure, have talked about the athletics player, tears like under Nikolai Eeler's they said, I don't know what the heck. Winnipeg was doing it with them over those years. So I think that I'm not saying was writing on the wall, but I think there's like little things along the way that if you're in that locker room and a part of the leadership group, it would bother you. Whereas I think Brady was just a lifestyle and wanting to follow his brother's footsteps. Like that's where I think it's different. I think with Halibuk, like he's been here, the extension actually would bother me more if I was a fan like that quickly after you're going to 180, but I don't buy it.

25:35I don't buy the post Olympic reaction. Like Sidney Crosby got boot in Pittsburgh after 2010 Olympics and he didn't go and demand a trade. I don't buy that either. I don't know. I think it's such a weak excuse and they're all using it. I think it was awful. Don't get me wrong, but I don't buy it either. I think this is a bunch of American athletes who sat around with other American athletes who said, I'm Jack Eichel. I got out. I'm Matthew Tuchuk. I got out and I won. I have no doubt when this conversation started at the Olympics. Do you like Winnipeg? I have no doubt Connor Halibuk said, yeah, I love it there. It's awesome. And they all laugh at him. I'm sure. And they all said, well, you can fish in Florida. You can fish in New Jersey. Well, apparently Keith Kuchuk at the Olympics was telling anybody that would listen that he was going to get Brady out of Ottawa. Wow. That's the annoying thing too. You saw it. You mentioned the moves that the Jets didn't do with Nick Eilers. That's kind of like the difference is that the sense have been making moves over these past two years. And you can tell that the organization wants to win and wants to keep getting better.

26:38And I'm not saying that the Jets don't want to get better, but the moves have been made by Ottawa. And that kind of makes it even a little more frustrating. It's like we're trying to build something here. And you can see that. We're building something here. Like you said, you're the guy. That's got to be the most frustrating thing out of all of it. If he had demanded a trade after his entry level deal, I would be like, yeah, fair. Like fair. Right. And they really screwed him in negotiations. I don't know if you guys remember, he signed the day the season started. He missed the first couple of games because he was still getting back into shape. Like they tried to nickel and dime him. He got zero signing bonus. And if you'll look, like what a deal for Florida. I think this year makes $7 million. And the final year of this contract makes $4 million in real money. Like Florida is getting him for two years at like $11 million total money and cash with no signing bonus money in there either. So if he had asked for a dent, sure. But you literally went seven years without a playoff spot and then you make it two years in a row. You know, show you Irish ex at this year with no points in four games. And then you put Caroline on your no trade list or on your trade list of teams that you

27:41can talk to. I just thought that was outrageous. But yeah, just to wrap this up, what do you think the future is for Sends and Jets and Oh, a date in the Stanley Cup final. I want to see Gary Batman squirm when those two teams meet in the Stanley Cup final. Yeah. Oh, he would be so upset. Very upset. Ross really appreciate you joining us. So great. Great. Great. Welcome to Chuck. Best friend of the program. Hey, what's the best friend of the program? CJ LB anchor and host of Locked on Sends podcast. Where can you get working people check you out? Oh, locked on senators, sent central and at one o'clock on the news. Perfect. It's Ross Levitton. We're going to take a quick break. Great stuff. And when we come back, we're going to hear from Sean Realms from SportsNet talking about Kevin Shevel Dayoffs career moving forward and how safe his job is. And Jim, it sounds like it's pretty safe. Yeah, this is a news to me, but some people this whole as my friend Husser used to say on the airwaves. Those of you like to be angry online, we have something we absolutely do have something.

28:43Stay tuned right here on 680 CJ LB for more jets at noon. Welcome back. Make sure to call the boss and pizza hockey hotline tomorrow. We're giving away a $50 gift card to BP 2047 8 0 6800. We've also been getting a lot of pocket down lately. So while I appreciate them, maybe the pocket downs need to stop a little bit. You get pocket downs. Yeah, I'm going to follow you on the boys. There was two today that were quite long and I listened through all of them just to make sure I wasn't missing anything. But make sure you call 204 70 to your 6800. That's brought to you by BP where this Saturday kids eat free all month long. That's right. Kids eat free all September at BP conditions apply. Kevin Sportsnet's Sean Reynolds was on the bleed blue oil podcast. And he was asked about Kevin Shevel Dayebs job security with the jets ahead of what is definitely a pressure filled season for the organization.

29:45So Kevin Shevel Dayebs has done a good job in Winnipeg to make Winnipeg a team worth contending with. But there's a lot of other teams with that would look at this and say, you know, maybe we need the next guy to get us to over a hump. It's like a pitching rotation. You have starting pictures. Sometimes you got to bring in the reliever. Sometimes you got to bring in the closer. That's not the way Winnipeg sees it. Their owner has said this to me. I don't believe in expiry dates. He's been good before. He'll be good again. That's the approach he takes with his general manager. Kevin Shevel Dayebs basically has a job for life if he wants it in Winnipeg. It would take something extremely drastic for him to get pushed out of that chair. And while a lot of other teams are always asking or a lot of media are always asking if he's on the hot seat, I don't think this Winnipeg jet's model of car has heated seats. So it's not something he needs to worry about. Great line by Sean Reynolds. That is a great line when talking about a hot seat for a coach or GM.

30:47And I don't believe the jet's vehicle has heated seats. Yeah. But Jim, just want to mention Kevin Shevel Dayebs is currently the 27th longest general manager with one franchise with 15 seasons going on 16 after this one. He'll jump to 23rd. He's still got 20 seasons until he hits Jack Adams number. We're with one franchise. He was the GM of the Red Wings from 1927 to 1962. And the athletic last year did a average lifespan for general managers. That's around four and a half years here. So what did you make about, I don't know if it's a revelation, but that's the piece of news here. Yeah. I saw that a couple days ago when Sean was on there. It's not surprising. I've heard the same thing. And I've said this before. And I think even in a different interview, Mark Chipman and I'll paraphrase went a little further with saying like he'll I'll be gone before he will be if that's what he chooses. I'm too old to find a new GM or I don't want to go through the process of finding a new GM. So like even doubling down. Look, I know a lot of people are not going to be happy about this.

31:47And a lot of it is the people that when I counterpoint them, they just go, it's been too long longevity. Well, David Poil had a great run in Nashville. Very trots was there forever and then left and then they brought him back. It's about the job, right? And I want to emphasize this, you're going to have your up years and your down years. But other than last year, his best seasons have been most recently. And you cannot argue that. Oh, yes. From the points you can get into his general manager stats too, because I've tried to get Kevin Chivaldé off and off the clock just for his life journey, not about the season or anything like this. And his GM stats are very good. Like for whatever stats are about whatever this and that. That being said, he's got pressure on him. And I think that if this season goes like last year, I would start saying I think they need different eyes, different perspective of this. But no, no GM for 15 years is going to be as sensational as he was when he drafted like, shifly, these guys, that guy, that guy.

32:49But if you want to talk recency bias of people who want him gone last year alone, fair enough. Over the past three years, they have the most wins in the regular seat. They have the eighth most wins in the league. He's not getting worse. But the league is what have you done for me lately and Jim with that. Yeah. And if we go to other markets, the likelihood of the GM getting fired after having the switch of the jets had this past season probably gets those guys fired. And while I do agree, if you look over the resume, I think another avenue is pretty serious. But again, people hate hearing this, but he was fourth overall, second in the West. They won the president's trophy and then they missed the playoffs and dropped 34 points. You don't just every, as soon as you have it, you don't counter hell about this. How's that? The minute you have a bad season, you don't get out. Don't you think it sets a little bit of a bad precedent though to have almost no hot seat whatsoever? Because I don't know, just from an outside perspective, you kind of think that maybe there's not a lot of pressure on Kevin Chenle.

33:50They have to go on and do this because just looking at the past two seasons in particular, there wasn't a lot of a, a big rush to make some, some more moves and get this team better. You know, every time I, sorry, buddy, every time I hear this is not making moves, he's not making moves. Do the job. Pick up the phone and try to get a guy with controller note to come to Winnipeg. I've always said this. Don't go up to those guys. They didn't, they didn't do this off season. Okay, close the door, pick up the phone and get a guy to come to Winnipeg. You can make traits for players that don't have those no move clauses or no trade clauses. So, okay, let's get into that list then. And are they better than the players they have? Well, I mean, and I don't know that off the top of my head, but there's, I would assume that there's other GM's that go out there and make moves happen. But half of the fan base does know apparently and says he's not doing it and he's sitting at the cabin with his feet up. I don't, this is the one thing. Is he doing a good job? Is a different conversation than is if he's doing the job? I have no doubt he's working his butt off year in and year out, day in, day out to make

34:53this team better. That I believe it. If he does a poor job at that, then he should be gassed. I don't know. It's just, but let's do this again. There hasn't been a lot of urgency the past couple of off seasons. Explain urgency and try and making moves to make the team better. There's just been a lot of well, hopefully this guy takes a step and hopefully this guy does. And hopefully this guy hits a career high and his age 30. That's why this year, I think this is a fair conversation. I've said this all summer. There is more pressure than ever. And if he has a season like last year, I think maybe it's time for a change. We'll see what this season hasn't happened, right? And then again, if you look at the past three years, they've never had better seasons in 15 years than year 13 and year 14. Yep. Well, we'll see what happens. That's the ultimate. The units we can talk all we want, but it's ultimately going to be the results. And like you said, if it's not a year like this one is feed up and I got a job for life and I don't think he's doing that. We'll just see how this season goes and then I'll reevaluate. Then yes, he should be gas. I just don't believe he's doing that. I just don't like the president that it's kind of like, oh, don't worry.

35:55You've got a job no matter what. You know, like it's, I just think that's a little, a little careless at times. But let us know what you think tomorrow on free for all Friday. That's a great conversation for you. We'll keep it going. Thank you all for listening. Jim to take you all the way to two o'clock. We'll be right back or we won't be right back. You won't be though, but I won't be. We'll see you at tomorrow. Come back if you want. You have a job for life with me.