Full Show PT 1: Thursday, September 10 [Vault]

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2:02and he's done a lot of people wrong. Partied really hard. He's just not a great dude. Just not a really great dude. But he is my dad. And I've always said on this show that, no, if you're in an unhealthy relationship with your family, there's always a gravitational pull somehow, some way to remain in contact. At least that is for me, no matter how. I hate to use the word abusive, but in some cases it probably was abusive. Not physically, yeah, but emotionally, most definitely. And I've told you guys, I've talked to my therapist about this before that in a lot of cases that she sees, the physical abuse cases are easier to get over than the emotional abuse cases. Because yeah, because you can look back at pictures when you were physically abused and you could say, okay, that's when he beat me or that's when she beat me, they're the bruises, they're the scars, I remember that. Emotionally, you just don't remember really. There's nothing really like to point to. And you block it out too. It's your coping mechanism.

3:02Right. Sometimes with the physical abuse and emotional, they're both horrible. I think with emotional, it's hard to know if it's healed, when it's healed, where it is, what it's about, there's so much gray area in your head when it comes to something that may be affecting you. And in some cases, it may not affect you, or certain things about it may not affect you to your an adult, or certain situations brings out certain things. But I just, yeah, I think it's horrible. And my dad is kind of a sales guy. He's just always gotten by and he just figures out a way, even if it's not ethically, he's just gets by, you know? Anyway, we just have not had a strong relationship. And about a year ago, we just laid it all out. And he basically said to me, like, Bert, you gotta get over this because for 20 years now, I've been apologizing to you for being a crappy dad. I know I was a crappy dad. You know I was a crappy dad. What are we gonna do with this whole thing? And what he said to me in that conversation made sense. So I've really made more of an effort. And we've, we have, we've connected over the last year. I brought Hayden out to Vegas. You remember?

4:02Yeah. Which is my son. So now he's had some experience with his grandson. We talk on the phone probably now once a week. So it's probably better than it has been in 20 something years, 25, 30 years. That said, it's a little easy because he's out in Las Vegas. And I'm here in Atlanta. So I can dabble in this and there's really not too much risk involved. Everything is easier when a plane flight's required to see each other. Totally. So I'm on the phone with him last week and he says to me, or two weeks ago and he says, you know, his wife and he are just done with Vegas. They don't want to be there anymore and they want to move. And his wife's suggestion was to move to Atlanta. Thank you. He said that he has this really burning desire to be around his grandkids now and he really wants to see them grow up. So she had the idea to move to Atlanta and he ran it by me last week. And I've been struggling with it. I mean, it's a tough, tough decision. And I know it's very difficult for people in this room

5:03to fully understand the thought process because I think the knee jerk reaction, if you're in a healthy relationship, is you do whatever you can to help your parents. If they need the help, you just do it. As a kid, if you need help, your parents are supposed to be there and vice versa. Well, when you're in a dysfunctional family like I am, those decisions are way, way tougher and you sort of have to attack them at every different angle. And that's really what I've done the last couple of weeks. Like, I don't feel real connected to them. I started to think that this is gonna be, I hate to use burden when it comes to talking about your parents, but my dad's health is really, really bad. He's definitely on the downside. I mean, we're talking about emphysema, we're talking about him having to be in a wheelchair for any kind of long walks or anything like that. And all of that is gonna fall on me. If he moves out here and I know what you're thinking, well, you're the son, that's the way it's supposed to be. I just, I don't have the connection to want to do that.

6:03He's gonna fall on you wherever he is, dude. It's a lot different though, man. If I have to deal with things from here to California, or Vegas, then it is here. And the expectation. Like you would have to hire a nurse eventually for your dad, probably full-time care anyway. I'm not really sure. I don't know. And that would be the case. If that were the case and he lived in Vegas, would you pay for it? If I lived where he does. No, I'm sorry. I asked that incorrectly. If he lived in Vegas and you stay here and he needed a nurse full-time, is that something you would pay for? I probably would, yeah. And you would feel probably the same way if he lived here. Yes, but it's different if he lives here. Okay. 877-588-B-E-R-T-877-588-2378, but it's not just that. It's also like, I'm not sure where his head is at. Like I told you guys, I've never trusted him. Most people don't trust my dad. He's kind of a sales guy. And I'm not sure that he's just using the kids as an excuse to make sure that I take care of him in these last 10 years.

7:05I'm also not really sure that his wife, I don't know what her intention is, because there was a time when I was in Vegas taking care of him the last time he got sick and she confided in me and she said, you know what, and he not gotten sick, I was thinking about taking off. So is she dropping him off in Atlanta and then taking him off? Maybe. So then again, that's my total responsibility there. And if his expectation is that he's gonna come on out, we're gonna be this great family. He's gonna be at the house all the time and I'm gonna be driving him here to there. I just don't have the time and don't have, honestly, I don't have the connection. I'm not gonna have the connection with him. How does your wife feel about it? And let me just say this about connection also. Like if this was Stacey's mom or Stacey's dad, I would feel totally different. If Stacey's dad got sick today, he can move into my basement right now and it would be no problem. Stacey's mom got sick. No problem. Come on in, we'll take care of you. I have no problem doing that whatsoever. So yeah, so instead of saying you don't have the time, you don't have this, you have the time. It's just you don't want to give the time, maybe to your dad. Yeah, in some ways, I feel, this may sound weird, I just don't feel like my parents have earned it.

8:08I mean, just because your parents don't mean that you've earned the rights of that. Great. Talking to somebody the other day, that was saying that even in the best case circumstances, when we get to a certain age and our parents get to a certain age, there's so much tension surrounding taking care of your parents in the best case scenarios. Like sisters and brothers arguing about it, one gives too much, one doesn't give enough. Yeah, you always compare yourself to the people in the room, but that is a hard decision for anybody. And there's family drama. I mean, it's not as cruel in some cases as it is in others, but there's certainly elderly parents are, it's a tough decision for everybody in any family. And the second part of this, because I pretty much have said all that stuff before, as I talk to Stacey about it over the weekend, thinking she was gonna go, are you out of your mind? Cause they haven't had a great relationship. Cause she holds dislike for him, cause the way he treated me my whole life. Sure. So I'm even more forgiving them of wife is, right? And she was open to the idea. She was, she was family, right?

9:08Like she has this mentality about family and he's, yes, and she also said that, you know, if his intentions are pure, are you gonna be able to live with making the decision that you didn't give him the opportunity to know his grandkids growing up? So that's really where we're at with that. Tremendously forgiving of her. Tremendously forgiving. So I'm not really sure where to go with the whole thing. I really am not. Hey Amanda, good morning. You're on the birch show. Hi. Hey, good morning, Burt. How are you? Good. Good. I just wanted to say, I understand your situation completely, but I would definitely give your kids the opportunity to have a relationship with their grandfather, because grandparents are always different with their grandchildren than our other kids. They can do, but they can do that from a bit of a distance. Does he have to live right down the street in order to have a relationship with his grandkids? Well, I mean, you know, you said he, he may be, you know, at the end of the road. And if he is far away, you're going to have to make that trip, and it's not going to be a real relationship,

10:09especially to a young kid. So I think they'd be missing out. Because as I stand right now, I'm like 10% to say yes, and 90% against it. Really? Yeah, I just think it's a, it's a stress that would be a huge stress between Stacy and I inevitably, and between me, and I just don't know where I would find, I don't know, man. Well, I mean, let's, okay, let's talk about if he was in Atlanta, and let's talk about his condition, because he's not somebody that you could, you and Stacy, it could be the caretakers of at a certain point. I mean, or would you, because I'm thinking, is it a case in which he would stay with you guys or be near you or is it a case where he would be an assisted living facility, because he is physically so ill? In the future, I don't know. In that you would be in a separate space, you just being the same, but you don't want to be in the same town. I can't imagine him living in our house. I mean, we're talking about a year of not getting in fights. I've seen my dad once still in a year,

11:09like I just don't feel like. Yeah, I don't recommend him to move into your house. I don't think that's a good idea. And I think that's hard for anybody, because being a caretaker or someone who is sick is a huge, huge, huge, it's a full-time job. It's a full-time job. Yeah, hey, George, good morning. You're on the birch show, hi. Good, I'm good. Thank you so much. I love you guys. Thank you. I think, probably subconsciously, your dad is just trying to reach out. He has nobody else to turn to. And for him, the last straw is what, bro, you're always prepared to take care of me. That's just how I feel. I mean, he's at the end, like you said, he's gone through a lot. He's got elements and so forth. So where else is he going to turn to for that emotional support? Or like you said, for a caregiver, and you probably are the only one he has in mind. Yeah, but that, I mean, the amount of pain that he's inflicted on me and my family over the years doesn't feel justified for me being able to just throw all that away and say, yeah, sure, just move on down the street

12:10and everything's going to be fine. I think the owner of listening to your story for the past couple of years. I mean, the first time you told this story, I was like, man, this dude, you need to get in touch with his dad, but eventually, as you went on and on, I can understand. I mean, I'm African. And in our tradition, when the parents go older or the moment you start to work, we've got the relationship. You have to take care of them, whether you like it or not. So in your situation, I think it's tough. I probably would agree with you to say, look, no emotional attachment, sign out a goodbye. But to each knee is on, I guess. Yeah, I'm not even saying goodbye. I'm just saying there's got to be something better than you live in down the street. What about in a different part of Georgia? There's a whole bunch of assisted living facilities around that what if he was like two hours away or he moved an hour away? How about South, so South Georgia that it's floored? What about a farm? What if he just drop him off in a farm? Oh, what? I'll say it away, pop. I did do it because-

13:10No, here's a tent. No, just put them in a farm because they'll take them in and put them in the barn and stuff. Here's Roslyn. Roslyn thinks I'm being heartless. Hey, Roslyn, good morning. You're on the birch show. Good morning. I love your show, but I have to admit, bird. I feel like you're being really heartless. I mean, he never said that he wanted to come and have you take care of him. He just wanted to move out there and try to have a relationship with your family. And you know, I feel like you're taking on a responsibility that he hasn't even asked you to take on. Why can't he just come out there and really do what he said he wants to do, which is have a relationship with you. Well, because he's not capable altogether of taking care of himself. And like I said, also, you have to know, you have to know that my dad has always just sort of been this guy that he'll use people in order to get by. Now, I'm not sure that he's like that in his old age, but I sort of feel like this is his way of just getting by in the last couple of years. I can't trust it. And I'm not the one that built that foundation.

14:13That's not on me. That's on my dad. Right, but you know what? I think you have so much held up inside of you. At some point, you really have to let it go. And I actually tried to justify what you said, but then when you said that you would let your wife parents stay at your house with no problems, my heart just dropped like, whoa, so it's just with him. You know, so I mean, if it was an aunt or, you know, if it's just a person who really needed help, would you do it? You know, I mean, it's hard to judge anybody else for the decision they would make, especially when you haven't been in their shoes. You don't know what it's been like being burnt growing up with this dad. It really is only your decision to make. I don't think anybody can really give you advice from their own perspective, because we all grew up with very different fathers, you know? Yeah, very different families, yeah. And very different families. And I don't mean just any room. I mean, every single person listening, you know, you can't judge on how somebody's going to handle it.

15:14My best friend never had a relationship with her father. And he, you know, disappeared when she was like two years old. And he's come back now as an adult and wants a relationship with her. And she's like, no, you don't get to do that now, you know? But I would never judge her on her decisions that she's made, because guess what? I don't know what it's like to be her and grow up without her father and then have him come back later. Like you just don't, you just don't know how you're going to, how you would be in that situation, because your whole foundation of who you are comes from your parents and comes from your upbringing and your family. So any perspective that anybody has right now on your situation doesn't apply. Right. Because they didn't grow up. Unless you've been in the same situation, right? I mean, and nobody's situation is exactly the same. I'll take one more call. Hey, Sarah, good morning. You're on the voice disguise or hi? Hey, I just, I've never told an avoidance. He's scared, but I had to call him to be scared. I was, I was emotionally abused by one of my parents growing up. I'm 25 now. And I mean, it still affects every holiday, every,

16:17I mean, everything. And there's no way. He's been so hard on your entire life. I know I understand what you've had to go through. Nobody. And I don't think you should do it. It's not fair. Don't put yourself there. Don't put your kids through it. And you know, exactly what's going to happen. He's an individual. And if you live just, you need to give yourself a break. Don't do it. It's just not worth it. No one else understands what you've gone for your whole life. Thanks for calling. Hey, my, my, my, my feedback is that your decision, you can never regret it. Like whatever decision you make, because this is about you. And this is about your life and your journey. And the thing is, if you make a decision, you've got, you've got to stick with it. And when he passes away, you can't regret. Right. And so it, that's all I have to say. I mean, I know I agree with Jen. Nobody can understand each other's situation. But what I do understand is that once they're gone, they're gone. So you can't spend that time, you know, mulling over all the, you know, for you to regurgitate this emotional stress of what I could have done

17:19or what should have done, whatever. It's like, you know, you're going to have to eventually come to terms with your parents and not let this eat it you so much, you know. Yeah, it wasn't eating that man. Tillie said he wanted to live down the street. That's started eating pretty quick, real quick. Thanks. The bird show. This is Becca and Tonya from scrubbing in with Becca Tillie and Tonya Rad. Becca. Can I ask you a question? How do I convince myself I need something before I buy it? Oh, so we're doing that today. Well, I'll be shopping online and suddenly I'm like, well, technically this counts as self-care. You're definitely not alone there. That's why Clarna stands out. It's about smarter tools that help you feel more confident with your money. Clarna brings payments, cashback and money management together in one place with flexible ways to pay. It helps you make smarter money moves without the stress. The goal right having tools that make your money work with you. Download the Clarna app today or visit clarna.com to learn more.

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20:26I came across the article and says, are you either cute, sexier, pretty? And anytime you see a woman, anytime I see a woman, or me and my friend see a woman, automatically she's sexy. She's pretty. She's cute. And it just kind of hit me in the face as far as how they described it like us. Like for sex, it says a lady radiating sexual energy. I didn't think about that, but yeah, I guess that's really what it is. What you women need to know is that like we have a whole panel of American Idol judges basically in our head when we see you instantly, they are starting to judge. And how do you define cute? She would have something kind of like non-threatening, you know, like kind of fun. Like she's not ugly, but she's not really sexy or pretty. You wouldn't really get with her unless you try to approach you maybe. You probably maybe talk back, but this is how the blogger defines cute. Okay. Youthful or playful. Maybe she dresses real casual in jeans and tea or keeps her hairstyle basic. Whenever the case she gives off a vibe that she's more laid back than sophisticated.

21:28Okay. That's cute. I will give you an example that's in the studio of cute. Okay. To me, Wendy is a great example of cute in my eyes. She just falls right into that category. She's approachable. She's just cute. I think personality too. Like Wendy has a bubbly cute personality. Okay. So I think that helps that cuteness. So what's the difference between cute and pretty? All right. Well, I think all women can say who's sexy, right? We see those sexy images on Maxim magazine and we all know. You know, like Angelina Jolie, that's obvious. But she's gonna say say to me. Really? No. What is she? I want to say pretty. I don't know. I don't know. She's a borderline cute. Every other time you come on this show, you make Melissa angry and angry at you. I'm angry. That is everybody's in her head up to their opinion. That could be the worst thing. That could be the worst insult you've ever said. Really? Biggest offense ever. According to this blogger, here is the definition for him for pretty. Okay?

22:28When it comes to pretty, that's usually a term reserved for a woman with just a stunning face. Someone I could stare at for hours and here's where he gets a little out there for me. As if her cheekbones were chiseled out of sun-baked marble and her skin glowed like a solar eclipse. All right. That's a lot of time alone. Whoa. Wow, dude. Okay. And what is sexy? And he says, by the way, that pretty for him would be like a Kelly Rowland or a Gabrielle Union. Yeah. Okay. I can see. I agree with Kelly. Gabrielle Union is sexy with me. And sexy, he says, as expected, a woman that calls her sexy just radiates like a sexual energy. I think you said Rihanna. Oh, yeah. Definitely. But then which one do you guys see? I think of Rihanna as pretty. Oh, she said. Oh, she's sexy because she's got that sexual in her eyes too. And the dude's agreed that she's sexy. Megan Fox. Megan Fox. She's pretty sexy. That's the transform. Yeah, she's sexy. She's sexy. And you know, I think sexy has to do a lot with skin too. When I think of sexy, I think of like skin body parts.

23:30Like I think of a nice rose, you know, thigh skin. You know, I start thinking of skin. I'm rose. Rose. You know, when everyone's on the air, you got a high blood. I'm sorry. Jen has brought some pictures in of some celebrities that she will, so run by us and we will try to define which category they fall into here in a second. Okay. Hey, Meredith. Good morning. You're on the birch show. Hi. I just, I was curious. Well, I will tell you guys, I have a romp. So I guess that you can certainly sexy. I've never been accused of being cute. And I think cute does have some, somewhat to do with your height. I'm 5'10". And I feel like there's some sort of, when I think of cute, I don't know if guys think of this, but there's some sort of petite aspect that goes with that. And just curious what you guys think. Yeah, this blogger said the exact same thing. That it does, in some cases, it does have to do with height, for sure. That puts you in the cute category. And it's sexy too. If you're tall, I think tall helps sexiness. Mm hmm. All right, Jen, you want to run a couple of eyes and we'll see if we can all get on

24:31some of these. Okay, I pulled out a bunch of photos from all of my entertainment weeklies and this is the first one, Marissa Tome. I'm passing the... She's pretty. Let me see it. Some of these are tall. Some of these are tough because they can be in one category most of the time, yet still fall into another one from time to time. She's pretty. Do you guys have a rep reference? I go with pretty on her also. We'd all be in agreement on that. That picture's not sexy to you. That one's pretty. Yeah, she's sexy, but that's... She's pretty. She's in the pretty category. Okay. She's pretty guy prefers the woman who pays attention to him. Okay, what about Eva Mendes? Sexy. Sexy. I don't even need to see that. Yeah, keep the picture to yourself. I'll take it. Yeah, sexy without a doubt. I mean, she just had... She radiates the sexiness about her. Plus, she's done these ads where she's like half naked and stuff, so the image that you have sort of in your head is a sexy skin. Right. Okay, what about Golden Globe winner Kira Sedgwick? Mmm. Pretty.

25:32So, is this pretty like a default category? Because I don't think Kelly Rowland or Gabrielle Unions in the default category, they're beautiful. I think pretty is a default category. Really? That sexy is the highest compliment you're saying? Definitely. Pretty is just that you're not bad looking, you're just, you're not, I'll take you. What are you going with? Kira Sedgwick. I'll take you work. You work. I'll take you work. You work with you. I'm learning my mom's. Me, yeah, yeah. I like when I'm. You don't think she's attractive about it. I... She's attractive, but she doesn't fall into one of the... There's occasionally women who don't fall into those categories. Right. Like that right there is a woman that my mom would talk to at school. If I had to put her in one of the categories, yeah? Okay, viola Davis. Oude. Oh, she is cute. Okay. Cute. Leonardo DiCaprio though, that is pretty. Yeah. She is sexy. She's just sexy. That is just sexy. She didn't do anything for me. What about Icarly Carl? I don't know.

26:32Icarly Carl. There isn't a bad creepy. But Bert, when you say that, but when you say that she doesn't do anything for you, that makes me think of cute though. I mean, not necessarily. She should not even have the cute category. Okay. Bert doesn't think she's attractive at all. Okay, this girl Emma Stone is gonna be in a new movie coming out in September called Easy A. Emma, where does picture sexy? Mm-hmm. I'll go cute. I was thinking cute when I was- She's cute. I was trying to categorize these when I was pulling them out of my magazines to say, oh, the guys are gonna say this. I've been wrong most of the time. I'm gonna go with cute. Cute, okay. What about Julia Roberts? Ah, I'm just giving it to her. Pretty woman, pretty. Yeah. Pretty? Yeah. Pretty. Okay, what about Katie Perry? Oh, yes. Katie Perry, she's cute to me. Cute. Katie Perry is cute. Yeah. Okay. Chloe Kardashian.

27:33Chloe? Which one is she? I get them all confused. She's the one Mary to Lamar, the Lakers player. She's now the tracks. Yeah. I'll try to- She's lucky to be related to Kim. Now, if you said Kim, if you said Kim, I go, Jeff doesn't like her, but I go straight to- She's pretty and sexy. Kim Kardashian? Ooh, and you- She's sexy. I don't find her- it's attractive as most people do, but she's- She's definitely sexy. But the younger sister's cute. She is cute. Yeah. Here's Fred. Good morning, Fred. You're on the birch, y'all. Hey, good morning, guys. They're really pretty, you know. Thank you, man. We're trying to give women a better sense of what category they might fall into here. It's really easy. And if you're looking at cute, and pretty, I kind of categorize the same, any of those words that you use in that manner, but it's for sexy goes like my wife. She's- To me, that's sexy because she carries herself, and she has a lot of- Just attitude of knowing that she has a lot to offer. And she just knows exactly how to portray that

28:36and being a powerful woman. So that automatically makes her sexy. So that's how it's- And she's gonna go out and see women, just, you know, just out and about. If they're cute in themselves, and they know they have a lot to offer, to me, they automatically fall into the sexy category. And I think a lot of the celebrities go, is that, yeah, you might be attractive, but if you don't portray that, and you don't push that out, and have everyone know that you have something to offer, you fall into the cute and pretty category to where it's just nice to look at, but there's nothing really there to offer. Sexy is about attitude, and I agree. I think I know his wife, she is sexy. That's right. There's two on this, and Paige, Alicia Keys. She's sexy, cute, I am pretty. Alicia Keys, Scott and all. She's wrapped up in one perfect little package. She does, she's good. And then, Kristen Davis from Sexy and the City? Cute. Cute. Although her body, I saw her on the cover of Shate Magazine, and that put her into the sexy category pretty quickly. It's a great shape. But you can't be tossing to a different category.

29:37Like you all were talking about things that's underrated, as far as women in the hair smelling good, that can turn you from cute to sexy. Yeah, okay. We are simple creatures. I agree. Very simple. What if you have somebody that you have considered sexy, like for years, but then they smell mildewy? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna go to cute. You don't even open the shower. That's what you do. You don't even open the shower. What's on Venegar on them? Oh. Hey, Melissa, I find you hot now, but I'm wondering if maybe I'll first date and what not could be at the laundromat. She don't mind. The Berkshire. This is Becca and Tanya from scrubbing in with Becca Tilly and Tanya Rad. Becca, can I ask you a question? How do I convince myself I need something before I buy it? Oh, so we're doing that today. Well, I'll be shopping online, and suddenly I'm like, well, technically this counts as self-care. You're definitely not alone there.

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33:40So the boy must have a lot of shoes. Did you say that again? Did you say man? Well, I'm sorry. Were you counted your wife's stacy shoes yesterday? And so she had like 83 pairs and then Jeff said he may have more than 83 pairs in his closet. He knew he did at the time. What is it? What is it? Look at Emmy for. You can admit it. That's an embarrassing number if you're hiring me. It's not. How high are you? It's not. We're waiting on your answer from the staring at you, Jeff. It's not, it's not. What? Okay, what counts is a shoe? What counts is a shoe. Everything in it is sandals. Is it like a $5 pair of old Navy flip flops? Yes, that's a pair of shoes. That's counts. You know, dancing shoes, ballet shoes. Everything you have in this. That's tattoos. Okay, now what if there's a box of shoes that are damaged that I was gonna take to like a shoe repair place? It's just those are your shoes. It shoes you wore out so they're, they count.

34:40Okay. Are they organized in a closet? Like I've seen some dudes that have them so organized that they're actually in boxes like within a container that you can see through. Are there that many? Oh, come on. I don't even have that. How are your shoes organized before we get to the number? Are they in boxes? Like nice shoes. I hit it right on the nose. You have it that over there. There are in clear boxes like from, well, in less container stores. Yeah. You're kidding me. And how many pairs of shoes are in each container? Just one. One. So you preserve every pair of your shoes. Well, in less, like some of them are just in their shoe boxes that they're bought in with the picture on the outside. With a picture on the outside. Did Jessica and the bus do this organizing for you? You did it yourself. Wow. That is worth the whole buyer, a closet organizer to do it for you. What is wrong with you? Yeah, what is wrong with you, Jen? Who did it for you? Oh, you did it.

35:40That's very crafty of you. Now I know. Everybody stop looking at me. Yeah. Yeah, Jeff Hayes' attention. Everybody leave the room. Now, now, are they organ? Okay. So now that we know they're in containers and they have pictures on the outside so that you know exactly upon the inside. On the non-sea through containers. On the non-sea through containers. Because see through you can see them. Are they organized by color too? No. Oh, that'd be stupid. Yeah. What about by season? No. By like new kind, like boots. No. Okay. You can see right through the container. Why do you have to organize them? Here's why I'm happy that this is all going down today. Narcissistically, you will never be able to give me a hard time about being a woman ever again. This day is over. Over. I just, it's first. Big break. So what is the number, Jeff? 90. 90 pairs of shoes. Are you low, are you low-balling that? No. Okay. It's exactly. 90 pairs of shoes. Yeah. Wow.

36:41It might be a little high because I had to count what I have at the late. 90 pairs of shoes. How many do you think you have up there? I think I have about 100 pairs of shoes. So about 100 pairs of shoes. No, I think that's about eight. Put that in the 90. Okay. Hey, Michael, good morning. You're on the birch show. How are you doing? Good. How are you? Great. Wow. Doing well. What's up? I was just saying that I have probably at least 70 pairs of shoes. And my girlfriend said you've definitely got to get rid of some of those. And I have knocked it down to probably about 45. What are you going to do? I'm definitely going to do with 90 pairs of shoes. Well, I'm definitely going to do some that was neat because there's some like, oh, look those. We got about those. But then there's something like this. Like what happened when he made Stacy do it. She's like, oh, I should wear those again or I should throw out half and then go get new ones. Yeah. So if you're a person who chops at the, you know, resell store and you're a 10 and a half or 11, next week's going to be a good week for you.

37:45So you're going to get rid of some of them? And are you going to, well, you restock the ones that you give or you sure that you used to be the type of guy that would wear a pair of kicks or sneakers or whatever. Yes. Um, one time, three times. I'm sorry, three times because if there's any scuff on them, you'd get rid of them. Yes. You still do that. Yes. Okay. But I hardly ever wear tennis shoes. You're like Mariah Carey, man. I just don't wear tennis shoes that are dirty unless I'm going like, unless, you know, you can clean them. You can't lie to some working out. Well, now we know what you have 90 pairs of shoes. And last time, last time running or something like that. And they're going to do shoes with cross trainers. Right. This is zero. And did you count your electronics also? Yeah. That actually wasn't that bad. How many was that? Uh, that was like a dozen things that were notable. I have a lot of laptops. Yeah. Just weird. That's a real first world problem. Kind of. All right. 90 pairs of shoes. I got it. I thought it out. Well, you're either like a spy or a superhero because you have all those laptops open in the same room.

38:45Like, do you know the hook up with a kid who's going back to school who doesn't have any shoes or any computers and hook them up for the school year? Like get him a job or something? Oh. Hey, Jessica. Good morning. You're on the birch. Good morning, guys. Good morning. I have an ex-boyfriend who has over 300 pairs of shoes. Oh, is that so? Wow. They're all tennis shoes and they're all on the original box. And he buys some of them knowing that he will not ever wear them. He just wants the shoe. Wow, 300, dude. So there. There's your hall of fame. There's your gotta look up to right there. 300. You got ways to go. There's an idol somebody to pray to. Hey, the birch. Yo. Melissa, thanks this morning. I think it's me. I don't know. I was nervous. Melissa smells the smell. Melissa smells the smell. Well, because I earlier I thought, which I was supposed to smell this little mildewiness, oh, what should it be, because I, because, Kenny and I've had problem with our washer and dryer, because, okay, let me just vent for a second. You got mildew shirt, man. I think I do. You're the moist kid. I guess I'm afraid I'll do it today.

39:47I'm sorry. We have front loader washer and dryer. And we can't stand these things. We bought them because we thought they looked cool. We moved into the house and we just haven't been able to get another pair. And it just, and so anyway, we bought these front loading washer dryers. And so then we had to, we had some mildew issues. So we call, we call them maintenance to the mainstays, said, you know what? It is a common problem with these front loading washer dryers. And they should all, and I'm telling you, if you're in the market to get the, get the top loading, top loading, never get those front ones. It's the worst because you could smell it on you way more than anybody else can. Like it's absorbing you, you know, but. Well, I thought about it and then producer Joanne and just came and said, do you see how, when you leave your clothes in it, and it washes you long, I'm like, oh, it smells. It smells. It smells. Give her a whiff, Jan. Is it, is it me, isn't it? It is. Like a tiny bit. Yeah, it smells. I want to smell it. I want to smell it. I want to smell it. I want to smell it. I want to smell it. I want to smell it. This is front loading washing machine. I'm going to smell Dewey Melissa. Yeah, it's coming smell me. It's coming smell me.

40:47It's coming smell me. It's coming smell me. It's coming smell me. It's coming smell me. It's going to be worse when I go to the braves game today in that heat. I'm going to be the bad guy. That's coming. That's coming now. I'm going to be the bad guy. I'm going to be the bad guy. I got my braves shirt on today. Oh, it's mildoey. Maybe, maybe you can send a tweet to, to appraeves and tell them you're at mildoey and see if they can get you in your app. Braves, I'm sorry. I'm the smell. And you got good seats too. So all the players are going to smell you as they want to buy you. You know what, braves, I'm sorry that I'm going to be the smelly kid at Turner Field today. You weren't your mechanic, too. So you've been like, Brian McCann, I'm sorry I'm the smelly kid in your t-shirt today. Get it, the virtue. For a limited time, you can get a big mat meal for just $8. That's a burger, fries, and a drink. They don't call it an extra value meal for nothing. Get a big mat meal only at McDonald's. Pricing participation may vary. Promotion pricing may be lower than meal pricing. This is an ad by BetterHelp.

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42:50Becca, can I ask you a question? How do I convince myself I need something before I buy it? Oh, so we're doing that today. Well, I'll be shopping online and suddenly I'm like, well, technically this counts as self-care. You're definitely not alone there. That's why Clarna stands out. It's about smarter tools that help you feel more confident with your money. Clarna brings payments, cashback and money management together in one place with flexible ways to pay. It helps you make smarter money moves without the stress. That's the goal, right? Having tools that make your money work with you. Download the Clarna app today or visit clarnet.com to learn more. California resident loans made or arranged pursuant to a California finance law license. NMLS number 1353190. Clarna balance account required to be eligible for cashback points, limitations, terms and conditions apply. You're on the virtue. Later on in the show today, we will spend a lot more time on this Ask Men Great Mail survey.

43:51They asked like 10,000 guys or something like that. Went online and took a survey. They answered all sorts of questions about being dudes and stuff. Some of the answers that we'll talk about later on today are pretty shocking. Let me just run a couple of them that we can chew on right now. They says four out of five men still believe that they should pay for all dates for the whole relationship or at least until established. Wow. At least until it's girlfriend boyfriend or husband wife. I think it's until girlfriend boyfriend is what they're saying. I don't think that's anything wrong with that. You agree with that? I think that they were just saying it to be nice because I don't think four out of five men feel that way. Really? Yeah. Or do that? Wow. Is that been your experience when dating? I mean, sometimes, yeah. I mean, if I ever offered to go Dutch, it was usually accepted. Really? I would have never accepted that. Most of the time. It's always nice for the woman to offer it. I think that's the proper thing to do. But traditionally, I would have never allowed a woman to pay in private date.

44:52I would say it was probably half and half. So what would you say? I'll get half of this. All right. That's cool. I would just be like, yeah, can I help? Whatever. Maybe. Okay. Really? About half the time. Yeah. See, even my, I mean, I don't take guys, but my brother, even now, my brother won't let me, like, if I'm hanging out with my brother doing anything, there's no way that he's going to let me pay for anything. Like, he's like that old school. He won't let a woman pay for anything. I thought it was a major red flag. Is that a woman thing, Melissa, or a work and radio thing? What do you mean? Your brother. He's like, I'll take care of you, Melissa. No. I know what you do for a listen. I was like, oh, God, Melissa. Can you grow up in a day? I was really surprised by that, because I thought that might be a major red flag for a woman. If he didn't pick up the tag, well, I'm not marrying any of those guys. There you go. It could be different. All right. Listen. It's the virtue. Hey, it's Ryan C. Crest for Albertsons and Tom Thumb. Now, through September 29th, save on all your favorite personal care essentials and earn four times the points.

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