Deep Dive: Texas Gets Another Chance to Take Down Ohio State

0:00Hey everybody, welcome to the deep dive. I am Paul Wildlingson. That is a muted Ian Boyd who will stop interrupting these intros and behave himself because we've got a big game. We're excited. The eyes of college football going to be on Texas and Austin this weekend, probably 20 million viewers, probably one of the biggest and most viewed regular season games in recent memory. The Ohio State Buckais are coming down the number one team in the country to face the number four Texas Longhorns and Texas needs to have something for them because Texas has sort of seen some of their season dreams wrecked over the last two years by these same buckais in the college football playoff. And then of course the regular season up in Columbus last year, both very tight games, but the buckais came out victorious. We are going to talk today about how Texas can win. Before we do that, we want you guys to go to inside Texas, go join the best content available in Longhornedham. Best conversation available. There's a ton of good stuff up there right now, including one of my previews of the Texas and Ohio State matchup, including involving the Texas Longhorn offense against against the Buckais defense.

1:08We're going to talk about that a little bit today. Ian, I'm excited to talk to you about this. Finally, a opponent we can really sink our teeth into. Steve Sarkies and Texas of average 10.5 points per game, I should say over the last two contests. Does that need to improve a little bit if we're going to win in Austin? But I think this is the key to the game, Paul. I think that the blue print, as I call it, for defending Ohio State is out there. I think it must champ will have a version of it that's effective. They've really been pretty good on defense against Ohio State the last two times. They just haven't scored. 100%. They have to score. We're going to score the football as the coaches like to say. They were like, what was the, in 24, wasn't the score like Texas offense, 17 Ohio State defense seven? It was 28, 14 final. Oh, so it was 14 to seven.

2:09Yeah, I mean, of course we had the game, sort of the game, potential game winning drive. And then of course we had the big miss Q, which we don't need to, we don't need to revisit that. But what we are going to talk about is what are some strategies that Texas can use to win? And let's talk about that matchup of Sark versus Matt Patricia. Matt Patricia did a phenomenal job with Ohio State last year. There were some doubters, but I think people learned very quickly that being the head coach of the Detroit Lions is not the same as being the defensive coordinator at Ohio State. And Matt Patricia shut up a lot of doubters. He took that pencil that he can't actually use to write on the laminate that he carries. So it's an odd affectation. Let's be honest. But he took that pencil and he taunted a lot of people who had doubted him, including us, held us to seven points. And we scored that touchdown with what about three minutes to go in the game to make it interesting. So we've obviously got to do better than that. Let's talk about it. And where does it start?

3:10Or should we start with the Buckeye defensive personnel and how they've changed? Let's maybe talk a little bit about that. Because I think one key is that Matt Patricia inherited like decent personnel last year. And some of his personnel was amazing, but some of it was like, not even normal Ohio State quality, right? You know, he had a decent inheritance of defensive personnel. In the secondary, that was not like an amazing Ohio State secondary. Okay. Well, they had three first round defensive draft picks and two second rounders. So. Okay. The way that he designed that defense. Really overstated the quality of his good players and understated the weakness of his bad players. He hit your main Matthews and emphasize sunny styles is what you're saying. And it's a big Binoe. The other corner. They didn't have a very good corner last year on the team.

4:13They had a couple like, I mean, I think Matthews was decent. Bino. Was not that good. They're nickel was solid. Yeah, but they had an even some of their like star power up front was really weighted towards like athletic athletic pass rushers. They only had like one dude that was like a run defense stalwart guy and Kaden McDonald. And he just built that defense to where you only noticed their positive qualities. I would argue I would push back and say those guys don't get those high draft grades and draft results. If they had run a different defense that hadn't been so well calibrated to their skill sets. I don't know. I mean, I think Kaden McDonald's going to be drafted in the second round no matter if he's playing for Liberty or coastal Carolina. That's the one guy that they had that was like traditional runstopping good player. When you're two linebackers are both six five two forty five and peel off four three nine forties at the combine.

5:16I'd say you're probably going to get drafted pretty well, but there's no doubt that he used his tools and his pieces very well. That's what Texas needs to do on offense against Ohio State Ohio State loses eight starters from last year's defense that led the country and points per game allowed. They were the best defense in college football. They've got to replace some guys they've got some talent. However, I think there's going to be some opportunity there because some of the most talented guys they have, particularly in their secondary are also the youngest guys that they have. They're both typically J Timmans who's going to be starting at nickel as a true freshman and then Devon Sanchez a player a lot of Texas people are familiar with played at North Shore. The rare non North Shore bust who actually seems to be actually selling at the college level and he's going to be sort of their lockdown owner. He's going to play the Ignminesen role and you're a little down on Ignminesen. They're going to be getting drafted in the second round.

6:17Certainly the talent was there and they asked him to do a lot. Often he was singled up on the other team's best receiver on the field. Not an easy tasking and they're going to be asking Devon Sanchez to do that. He's going to be drawing a lot of Cam Coleman. I wonder if you look at that Ohio State secondary who they return and they do return a good safety and McLean. He's a pretty good workman like player and then they brought in Earl Little from Florida State who has done a good job at safety. I'm wondering if that's where Sark sees all of his best opportunity because as I said, the most talented guys are young and a little inexperienced and maybe not used to this sort of game setting. And then the more experienced guys are not these great pure raw talents like a Caleb Downs. Yeah. There's two things you can do there like they could if they're if their inclination is to load up.

7:22How did you put it? They could they put Sanchez and Timons on your best guys and then just kind of zone up the rest. And like to vote the safeties to worrying about other things. If they do that, then you kind of have to go strength on strength and make sure that can actually do it. Right. Let me ask you this. Go ahead. If you if you know they're starting a true freshman at nickel, no matter how talented and he was a five star. I saw him against ball state. He moves great. He's just super fast like great instincts for his age, etc. But he's a freshman. Do you play Cam Coleman out of the slot some do you play Ryan Wingo out of the slot some and hunt some matchups. And maybe do some complex stuff that might like cause him to bust. Yeah, I think so. I think maybe you would do that with Coleman. I don't know about complex is great. But I also want to see like sure you can run with Coleman anywhere he goes. But if he kind of runs you into you and puts his hip into you.

8:22How big is J Timons? Is it any like 170 pounds or something nice like 5111 90. He's 190. Yeah. I thought he was so much smaller. Well, I would still see if like how are you against like a big physical guy. Who like bumps you off spots. Can you still hold up if you put you on his hip and kind of leans into you. Are you going to be able to hang with him then or is is all just quickness for you? Well, and if we play it more conventionally. I think we can hunt and find the matchups we want just through formation. And that would be a part of the early chess game between Patricia and Sark. Patricia trying to deny certain matchups. Sark hunting for them. Jermaine Matthews is available at one corner. And that is the guy we scored on last year late. That's also the guy that Charlie Becker tore up in the big 10 title game. Charlie Becker for those you don't know is the six foot four sort of contested.

9:23Catch champion for Indiana. Very similar in a lot of traits to Cam Coleman. So I would think that that's a matchup that Steve Sarkiesian is going to be very interested in trying to create. I think so too. Patricia, this is a tough matchup because Patricia has so many tools for. I think that's a very good matchup. We're going to play the game. Bracketing the guys that he just doesn't want to get open. Like this is the whole bellicick thing. It's like we're going to we're going to make we're going to play man generally. And then we're going to use the extra player we get from lining up one on one. To like devote the safeties to like your most concerning aspects of your offense. Yep. And Sarkies showed in games like this that he will hunt the linebackers to. And get like how I'm going to get a Negro on. Wingo on a on a swing screen.

10:25And make him chase Wingo out to the flat. And Tim and maybe fast his heck but can he get off a block from him at Mosley. To stop our swing screen game. And I'm going to throw I candy everywhere and see if I can slip out. Nick Townsend or Spencer Shannon for like easy dump off center. There's a lot of stuff they can do like that to not only hunt the linebackers but. Maybe try to confuse the assignments. If you're a half state and you go into it with like a lot of checks that are designed to make sure that you're doubling Coleman wherever he goes. And they are preserving X, Y and Z matchups. That can get really, really tricky, especially with young players. If you start motioning around a lot. So. Yeah, particularly on the road. Hostel. Hostel environment. You know kind of all the eyes of the nation or upon you. I think that I think there's something there that we've got to dig into.

11:27I also think Matt Patricia has some counter punches that he learned from last year going against us, which is. I didn't deal very well on the line of scrimmage with quickness and motor. Kaden McDonald was absolutely critical to them. I think in maintaining the integrity in the middle. And he I think he's very underrated. Buck I in that regard. I don't know if they have a clear replacement for him that that's not what Edrick Houston or even John Walker do best. You're right. However, I did watch the ball state game and the buck eyes have a large number of very quick twitched up guys. I think they're going to be very comfortable playing not only on the edge, but inside. Because I don't think they think we can pound the ball on them. I think you're going to see a lot of their undersized fronts that are there to penetrate. Get after the passer. Get after our run game through through basically quickness and backside pursuit. And taking advantage of the fact that we've not always been really good in terms of strain.

12:28In terms of being sticky on our blocks. And those quick guys can cause a lot of problems. And so I think that might be one of Matt Patricia's counters is let's muddy up everything up front. And that will go a long way to help protecting my secondary. Let's get a bunch of team speed and disruptive guys up there. And I think it may start with Kinyata Jackson. That's a guy who was a former five star. He's kind of beguiled Ohio State fans for his entire tenure there. Because he's got these amazing physical traits. It doesn't always seem to come together. He gave us problems last year playing as a four eye. Playing inside as a five or even a three technique on a couple of downs. He is leveled up. I watched him against ball state. He had eight pressures in one game. A bunch of hits in the quarterback. Now he's a huge guy six six to seventy five. He doesn't always finish the play with a sack. But he does get the pressure. And once you do that Ohio State's got a fair number of really athletic agile guys, including a true freshman.

13:29Who they are going to play. And once there's blood in the water, they'll get after you. So I think that might be Matt Patricia's counter is I'm not going to play a bunch of matchup games with you in the secondary. Obviously we're going to try to cover. I mean, we may even try to be conservative back there. I'm going to try to win this game up front with quickness, motor, and having guys that are just. Better athletes and frankly playing harder than what your offensive wine is shown in the past. So. Let's let's go. Let's make a real deep dive here. All right. What's the counter to that counter? Because I think one instinct would be we're going to play 12 personnel. And we're going to try to bully you if you go small and fast. But I think 12 personnel because potentially a mistake in this game. Because you're inviting Ohio State to play more of their twitchy athletic box players. Yes. So I don't want to see that.

14:30I mean, if they do that and it works, I'll eat my crow. I'll be happy. I don't think that's the way to do it in this game. I think you want to be good. I think you run the ball from spread. Yeah. And I think archmaning is involved. Yes. I think I think a good indicator of offensive health is if we have four to six called archmaning runs designed archmaning runs that that succeed that don't get stuff. Right. And then I think another equal number of scrambles where it doesn't quite open up the way we wanted down field. And instead of second and 14 or second and 10. And then the arch pulls the ball down and now it's second and three. And it's like you kind of get a little do over. And you're still staying ahead of the chains. If we can do that. I think that's going to put a lot of pressure on Ohio State's defense and a lot of pressure on map trisha's scheme because I think the thing that does most impressed me about Patricia is that he's clearly a good teacher of the game.

15:30And he gets his guys to execute pretty high level like NFL stuff. I question their ability. I think he'll question his own ability of like what how much do I want to put on these guys. For their first big road game when I've got eight new starters. How much complexity do I want to layer and how many answers do I want to try to have to every formation every move every motion. Or do I want to base it up a little bit on the back end and then try to just whip Texas upfront. I think I might prefer the latter as a DC, but maybe Patricia's just that good. Maybe you can have his cake and eat it too. Well, that's definitely their name of the game for them last year. But last year they had guys that were like they were going to whip you up front. Yeah. Like they would play that like their five on the line penny front nickel stuff all day long. We're going to whip you on the front. And if we don't we have Caleb downs and Jalen McLean in the middle of the field that will clean it up for us.

16:36And I don't I don't know that they can I still think they're really built for that this year. I also let's talk a little bit about the weather. Forecast for this game is what is the forecast for this game. I'm looking it up here. Is it what 94 humid. Looks like it's going to be cooling down a little bit. Of course the game will get into the 80s if the game goes long enough. That's not it could be hotter it would almost be better for hotter, but that's really hot for Ohio State players. And I think if you let if you tell arch like hey we're going to spread the ball around early. We're going to get easy completions and try to keep the chains moving. And I want you to run. If you see an opening just take it. Because we want first downs early. Yep. You start first downs wear out the defense like nothing else.

17:36And quarterback scramble is really really way out of defense. Because then the defensive line has to start worrying about contain on every play. So it's not just how do I beat the guy in front of me, but how do I beat him without. Giving away leverage for the scramble. And then you get in the defense will like run to the four corners of the earth. And then they have to peel off and find the quarterback in space and run him down. And doing that really wears out guys in the heat. Past rushing wears out guys in the heat team pursuit wears out guys. And when you stack first downs. You start getting like guys just fall apart. We've seen it a million times. We're endorsing an early classic Greg Davis game plan. Okay. That's laden with some some baggage, but I mean that is best. A lot of his early game plans when Texas was kind of cooking with Colt McCoy was like let's get the ball out quickly.

18:38Horrors on a Lee and it's a bunch of seven and nine and 12 yard completions. I've been the defense is gasped by the middle of the second quarter. And we start throwing the ball down the field. Some of our terrible runs actually start to hit like that's kind of what it would look like back then. So yeah, I do you think will experiment with pace or I mean I always speculate about that. And we never do. We did against Alabama and Tuscaloosa. True. And we did against him in Austin too I think. Until Quinn got hurt. Yeah. So I think absolutely yes, especially. I think that was a Sabin specific game plan. Because I think Sark understands from having been there how much of that defense is a brain transplant from the sideline. And I think he wanted to short circuit that. But you know, maybe I'm wrong. We'll see. I. I feel like that could be there against Ohio State to. Yeah, maybe so. I mean, certainly whatever you think of Caleb Downs and whether you take a safety 11th in the NFL draft, which is pretty heavy stuff for a safety in today's football.

19:47Caleb Downs was the coach on the field. He was the stereotype that he was the guy that DC could. He was the one that was going to have to take a map and get his attention and go. And like point. And Caleb Downs go, oh, I know it, you mean, yeah, yeah, I'll make that adjustment real quick. And that guy's invaluable. I don't know if Jalen McClain is going to be able to step into those shoes. I mean, when I say, I don't know, I mean, I literally don't know. But that was a big advantage for that Ohio State defense. Yeah, that may or may not have that. But even if they. I just think you have to make them feel the weather. and make sure that like all their young players understand what hydration looks like in a game like this. And all their, those big, they have, they have a limited number also big guys that are like true defensive tackles. And so getting those guys running, I don't know. Yeah, so they, Edrick Houston will be their three technique. John Walker's their nose. You and I have kind of gone back and forth about.

20:48I don't know if you really need a true nose against Texas, frankly. But I would agree, John Walker's not Katie and Donald, but they got James Smith from Alabama off the bench. And then I think they've got one other guy that's pretty viable defensive tackle. But you know, one of the things that I think has been a good insight. And that I've thought about is big guys don't recover from exhaustion the way DB does. DB can be like looks like he's dying. And then you get him, you get him a 45 second rest and he's good to go. Once a big guy kind of blows it. He's not recoverable. Like it's not like it just comes back 30 seconds later and he's ready to go. Once you push him into the red, that guy can kind of be, he's kind of done. So if we can get into their depth chart, that would be very useful for us. But I think they've got adequate depth. I don't, I don't think they're lacking defensive tackle. I would just say it's not a massive strength.

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23:55I think there's that there's Ohio State just couldn't handle. Sarks. Year long prepared script. And then I think there's, you know, our train for 100 yards or 80 yards or 40 yards and two touchdowns. Yeah, the Sam Levit Clemson performance reminded you that early in the season when your quarterback's healthy and feeling good. Yeah, that's a pretty scary component of your game plan, having a big mobile quarterback who can run and Sam Levit's not big, but he's very mobile. That's the healthiest he'll be all season. And that's the best hill look running all season. And the same probably applies to arch in this game. Yeah, now they tried to do that last year. And it was pretty lousy. I thought the design, frankly, of a lot of our quarterback run game was pretty stupid, to be honest, against Ohio State. I didn't, I didn't like it. But I think that's something stark is obviously going to work on.

25:07And I also would like, I would life to see him just pull it down. Facts in times on the scramble. Sometimes like I've watched some bills games with Josh Allen where they will try to run a quarterback run game and get stopped. But then run him on a scramble off like three or four of her it's like a play later and it just runs wild. Yeah. The same thing, the blocking does the same thing in both directions. It can open up a targeted channel for the running back for the runner to go through. It also tells the defense where they're going. Yeah. And scramble does it. So, yeah, I don't know. I Coleman arch, Sarc script. I think any of those three are potential advantages. I think arch run and Coleman more than Sarc, but I don't, I'm not, I'm not discounting the possibility that Sarc really has something for Patricia in this game. So this is something that gives me confidence is that I feel like there's multiple ways they can win this on offense.

26:13All right. Let me ask you very quickly before we switch sides of the wall. Yeah. Are you confident if we score 30? Yes. Are you confident we score 27? Yeah. Are you confident if we score 24? Yeah. Are you confident if we score 21? Below 24, it's where I think it gets a little dice here. Yeah, 24 below. I think we're going to overtime. I love about that. Okay. I've been comparing this to the Tuscaloosa game. Or I feel like it's possible that Texas kind of jumps him and puts them in a bad spot where Ohio State just cannot get out of the basement. And they just kind of keep them at arm's distance from most of the game. Kind of like Ohio State did to Texas last year. Yep. So I think it's possible they could win like 17 to 10 or something like that. But over over under 10 and a half points scored for Texas.

27:19Okay, over. Okay. I agree. If it's not, then this is going to be bad. It's going to be bad. If it's not, we're going to have to have some some big, some big chats, some big. Oh man, it's going to be the tent. It's going to be some global discussion of what are we doing here? I tend to agree. All right, let's switch sides of the ball. Let's talk about Will Mustchamp. He was brought on for games like this because we wanted to see more opponent specific game planning. We wanted to see a little bit more aggression when maybe things are going well and you see your opponent wilting a little bit. Let's deliver the hammer below. Let's deliver the coup de gras. This is why most will mustchamps here. My guess is while we respected Texas state, I think our game planning for that game took about two hours. I think we might have been working on Ohio State for a little bit longer than that. So what do we think about the matchups on the other side of the ball? I think a very common thing that I'm reading and hearing Ian is they don't have carnalte hate anymore. It's just Jeremiah Smith. Ohio State's cooked.

28:25You know, they never replaced their receivers with good guys. You know, they have no history of that as a program. So, you know, boy, all we have to do is double Jeremiah Smith and we're going to shut them down. Is that true, Ian? I mean, maybe it's I think it's possible that if they double Jeremiah Smith, they'll shut them down, but not because the other receivers are not dangerous. That's that's not it. Were you impressed by what she saw from a Quinn? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I was. He seems like he's a little different than some of the guys they've had in the past. He's actually a little more soft skilled. Is that right? Well, I mean, this is guys at former 10 to 800 meters guy in high school. So he's got some juice. I thought where his most interesting value add was that I hadn't seen as much from Ohio State receivers. They had a lot of RPO game and saying looked great executing it. And he is fearless catching RPO like in traffic, running into guys.

29:30He kept adding yards after contact when he'd catch the ball. So that's the thing that impressed me the most about McEwen in that regard. And I can see why Ryan Day's been raving about him and fall camp. I mean, he delivered. All right, if Texas comes out and respects Ohio State run game to the extent where they give them wide open free access throws on the perimeter. Then I may just like storm out a D.K.R. Yeah. I don't think much to him. He's going to do that. I mean, you've been a guy who's always talked about here's the game plan Michigan is used historically to thwart Ohio State. A lot of it is light boxing and then counting on run support from death. Is that fair? Yes. Yes. Can we execute that based on some of the things we saw against Texas state? I mean, Derek Williams didn't exactly dominate run supporting from depth. Does that mean this is a

30:30big deal? I mean, I mean, I'm definitely putting McDonald and the boundary for every safety and making him the primary guy responsible for like sus out there intention and then show up. If you show up a little bit late where the ball is, that's fine. You know, we're going to trust you to get there on time before it gets too bad. Michigan did that really successfully against Ohio State with much lesser players than John and McDonald. If you are running a 4-1, I like our 4. Who's the one? And I mean the linebacker because I didn't think juice cry or distinguished himself in some of those situations. I don't know how to say that. They don't make you play for one. Their tight ends don't go out into space like that. I mean, maybe they do that this week. But if they do, then it's either a screen or just ignore it because they're not actually going to throw to him.

31:37Part of what I'm Michigan was so successful with this against Ohio State is that Ohio State is not a veer and shoot team. They aren't all in on different spread tactics in the same way. Their tight ends are like purely run supporting bludgeon plus they went through like three offensive tackles early in the game trying to find the best combination. How comfortable do you think they're going to be playing their tackles without tight end support against Colin Simmons and the Texas edges? That's a critical question. And that's one that Ohio State's offense really has to answer. It makes you think their game plan could be can we run bow Jackson and throw the ball quickly on our POs. And I think that will limit some of our zone usage, but that might be playing in a must champ's hands. I think must champ at least on money downs. Hey, even against Texas State, money downs are now man downs at the University of Texas. It's not cover for on third and for with our cornerbacks 10 yards off the receiver. Right. We're playing.

32:47We're playing. Yeah. So I think we're going to challenge some of those throws. I think we're going to choose our spots. I only want to challenge it like on every possession and every every down. But I think there's an interesting chess game here as well where Ryan day. Here's the thing about Ryan day he's a little conservative in these big games admittedly. But we've also seen Ryan day let it loose when he trusts his quarterback and he trusts his protection. Yeah, I think he trusts his quarterback now. Yeah, I don't know if he trusts his protection. Well, I mean, he may give it a go see what happens. Yeah. But if it doesn't work out, he's going to be as conservative as he can get away with I think. I also think that stopping Ohio State when we go sort of light box or appear to go light box. We have some run fits. Maybe that guys are actually firing down at the snap of the ball. I don't like juice cry out there as the one instead of bios.

33:54And I don't I don't I don't understand juice cry is bigger. I don't think that's the thing. I think you want your most dynamic playmaker and the guy who can most likely scrape and get out to stop a play that no one really had a clear responsibility for. Just football plays that's why I think Jolani McDonald and guys like files really come in handy in a game like this because there are certain gain certain plays in football where the the responsibility is hazy. And it's like someone just needs to make a play and tackle that guy. Trave on Henderson two years ago. Just get the guy on the freaking ground like I don't we're past like gap responsibility. He's running loose and running wild. Can we just get him on the ground for a 30 yard game instead of a game changing touchdown. That's a really spooky about prior. I didn't like what I saw because it's not what was sold to me in some of the preseason reports. I thought I saw exactly what I expected to see. This guy I didn't expect to see a guy that was going to scrape over and clean up.

35:02And I would I was worried about the games where he was asked to do that like Texas state. I was never believing that he was going to be good at that. You think he's I mean, my thought was Connor making me laugh in the chat. My thought was hey, here's he's our 12 personnel guy between the tackles. Right. Anytime you can cover him up and keep him in the box. I'm not sure if he's going to be fine. Now we did that with Texas state and he was the only guy in the box to your point and it wasn't great. No, this is going to be a thing all year long. It's going to matter sometimes other times it's not. I don't I don't know if this is a game where it matters. That's so against type for Ohio state to get so spreading that they're hunting your last.

36:03Texas is defense is designed where prior is the last guy. Everybody's like, I got him, I got him, I got him. And then when it gets to the least dangerous receiver on the field, that's what it's prior. So I think Ohio state, if you're going to see some wrinkles, I don't think they're going to be schematic. I think they're going to be personnel. So here's follow my train of thought here. I think both Jackson's much improved at running back. I think he's a good player. And I think they're running back room globally is much improved from what we saw in Columbus. That was not a classic Ohio state backfield that we encountered. They didn't exactly encounter a classic Texas backfield either. Both teams have improved considerably there. Legend Bay. True fresh. When from Texas, they fed that guy the ball against ball state for a reason. They're trying to get him comfortable. And I'm telling you that guy is a massive mismatch in space as a pass catcher or just a runner in space that they try to get loose any any way they can.

37:08That's a guy that can punish us from a personnel perspective, trying to match up on our linebackers in space or even if they if they get a safety. That's a guy who could make a difference that they didn't have last year. And you could tell they were trying to get him touches and get him acclimated. And he's also that guy. He's a so he brought back two kickoffs where he caught them deep in the end zone and got tackled before the 20. And each time Ryan Day and Ohio State staff are like, hey, kneel it down next time. And he's like, I got you coach and then he just returned it. So he's that guy. He's there. Reliek Brown like playmaker. And that guy historically in these games as a freshman. He's either going to make a difference in this game and house a 60 yarder or he's going to fumble trying to make personal deals. He's going to get nailed by germane by a regime regime miles and like knocked out and the ball is going to go up in the air. So there's no Mr. in between with a guy like legend Bay. So it's a question of what what Mr. Day wants to do with respect to those kinds of the X factors.

38:13Knowing day. I maybe days going to come out and proof me wrong. I've been hammering him his third day stay for a one time now. Maybe they come out and it's like. They're spread empty. And they got legend Bay running option routes and juice cryer and mustchamps over there like scribbling furiously on a whiteboard. Maybe. Or likely we have two running backs. What are we doing? What are we doing? And then legend they try to get the ball like a jet sweep. And that's the package. That's the legend Bay package for week two. It's like a play. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see. We'll see. Day has tended towards conservatism of late in these big games. And you know fans don't like to hear it because they want to hear that you left it all out on the field and all that. And so the truth is a lot of college football games are lost more than one.

39:15And I think days trying to not lose it early on the road. And then he'll he thinks he can figure it out later like late in the game. Yeah. And he sometimes can and sometimes he can't. That's right. And it's like 55. It's like it's it's a classic. 50 50. Most is it is with almost every right. Well, I offered two components of days aggressive game plans, which we have seen people tend to like forget that. And I was like always only only conservative. Not true. When he trusts his quarterback. I mean, he trusts his protection. I 100% thinks the heat trust Julian saying and now thinks he's leveled up. Yeah. If he can protect early Ohio State's going to try some stuff, man. If the protection shaky early, we're going to see the game turn into a little bit more of a grind. So let me tell you about something that I patch pointed out to me. There was extremely encouraging.

40:16Must have been watching Mike McDonald. In his time off. And that's not always the architect of the Michigan blueprint is the architect of the general play too deep. And don't be so afraid of the run game. Destroy a team's passing game. And make sure your D line is not easy to demolish. And teams can run for like 100 yards. They're not going to beat you because they're not going to score. So that he's responsible for that generally. And then Mike McDonald has a new quirk on this that he's been doing it in Seattle, which are. Quarter's coverage fire zones. I talked about this a little bit this morning. We ran that against Texas state. And we ran quarters fire zones against Texas state. Yeah, practicing them. I think so. So the idea is you overload the protection with five pass rushers. And it's designed to force the running back to stay in protection.

41:19But detect the backside. So either if you send the back out, no one accounts for him. But your core back is going to take it in the gut. And if you keep them in and great now we work as we're not covering him. And then it's a two deep coverage. And then we still get your brackets on all of day's favorite vertical releases. And I could see must champ just. Letting Ohio State having with a million different exotic zone blitzes. That are four or five minute guys coming from different patterns. But then still too deep. And then maybe you rely on mudding it up up front for some variance to stop the run game. So they might gaseous. But then you can also hit him for a second and 12. And. I was saying. The gash has the gash doesn't score because you're still too deep. That's right. And your tackling soundly, et cetera.

42:19Right. It's the tray gone Henderson like just get them on the ground. The key to that. I think is pretty good. The key to that. I think is playing a lot of defensive linemen. And I think. There's an element. Of I might want to park as many I want to park Ian Jafrard right in the middle. And get as many snaps out of him as I can and surround him with quickness. I want him to be my soul anchor. And then I'm going to be running a bunch of games around him. I think that might be a winning game plan. So we'll see. We've got to wrap it up. We could do this all day. We've got to wrap it up. Conor's got other shoes shows to shoot. We've got a Texas football team with some shots to shoot this Saturday. And we're hoping some of them are three pointers that swish. Not off balance from 30 feet, but the one that gets set up off the dribble. Nice easy three. Let's have a few of those, Sark.

43:19And I think we'll feel a lot better about our chances against the buck eyes. Phenomenal game this weekend. Y'all get fired up. It's only I'm already fired up. Ian any final thoughts for the people before he say goodbye? Hook him. Join us to the inside Texas. Like, subscribe, and forward this on to others. Hook him.