Chris Hansen GOES OFF On Robert Pattinson’s Primetime Movie

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1:08From Corolla One Studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Corolla show. Adam's guest today. Chris Hansen. Plus the news with Alicia Kraus. And now. Adam Corolla. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. No choice but get on the mandate. You get it on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks. Tell him a friend. Love that about you. Chris Hansen back in studio. He's great to see Chris. Thank you for having me. Yeah. It's been busy. It's been busy. I think I may be the only person alive who was on stage at the RNC on a Wednesday night. And then 48 hours later, I was in Vegas on stage with Jimmy Kimmel for an hour at his club. And I don't know if there's anyone else who can say they were did vote those things. That exists. Yes. In the world. As we know it. Which I think is great. I do. And here's why I think it's great because you have your own style, your own perspective on things.

2:13Very funny, very bright. Obviously your old pal has a completely different take on a lot of things including the current administration. But you don't let your individual beliefs harm your friendship. No, we had a great time. I was doing the late show on a Friday night at his club in Vegas. He's never been there when I've been there and I've been there a lot. I looked to my left and I felt a presence to my right. Like a little shadow in the peripheral and I thought some assholes hopped up on stage. Because I did not see Jimmy take the stage. Did the crowd see it? The crowd saw it as he turned around or something. I don't know if he came from the back is what happened. And I just turned around. There was a dude there. And it was a moment of like oh shit. Kimmel. And then it was like oh great. And then I thought he was going to say a couple things.

3:14Maybe bust my chops for a minute. And then I thought I was going to get on with his night. He never left. Well that's the answer. The whole night. The whole act. I stopped doing my act. We just started reminiscing and riffing and it turned into that. And then afterward we're like all right well let's go out. Now that you're here to tell the other. I think that's great. Maybe you have a you know a future act with him. Take it on the road. You know the thing you know the thing about. Because it remembers. So years ago and I don't want to interrupt. I'll show you this. No. But there used to be a roadshow with Haley Barber, the Republican and Leon Panetta, the Democrat. And they would go it wasn't a comedy show but they had fun with it. Yeah. And they took shots at each other. But it was almost like the days of Reagan and Tip O'Neill. Yeah. You can choke each other out a little bit. But at the end of the day it's good entertainment to hear both sides of an issue. You know I totally agree. I think there's like going out doing some sort of man show reunion or something like that.

4:16I think that would be. I'd go. Would be fun except for. I don't think Jimmy. Jimmy's probably flush enough where there's no. He does. When you remove so it's kind of like it comes away with a fun. He might let bands are sort of that way or like you want to get. You want to get the lead singer back to the band you know. Just to do it. Yeah. The problem is a lot of you know if Harry Styles is selling out arenas all over the world. It's hard to get him back to reunite with the boys. Right. You know what I mean. So in this equation I would be Harry Styles if you're if you're asking tracking. Yeah. So Chris has tons of stuff going on. Yeah. I mean there's the documentary dangerous games. That's the Roblox one which is all up to that coming soon too. Yeah. And Blue now it just set the table with that company or that app or whatever it is. So Roblox is a multi billion dollar publicly traded company that has created over the last 20 years a massively popular gaming platform.

5:26So kids can go on and play games. The characters often look like you know harmless friendly Lego characters and they can do all kinds of stuff. And then there's another level where creators take part in making games that be very popular. So there's a there's an individual money making component, a corporate money making component and what we found in our investigation. It is oftentimes a playground for predators. And the question is and there are thousands and thousands of victims children who are preyed upon by predators because they know the kids are in there. The parents think this is very safe. Right. That they can let their kids roam around and do whatever they want. Right. And so we dug into it and we found numerous cases where the company wasn't policing this appropriately. Roblox refused to talk to me in the course of the investigation on camera but I had several briefings. And my question to them among many others is why not let law enforcement conduct an investigation on your platform if you think it's safe.

6:27If you put so many safeguards in place. Right. But they can be lured there and taken to places like discord which is kind of a cesspool for this sort of activity. And we did a presentation a young activist named Schlepp because my shop online we did a presentation at CrimeCon where I actually was on Roblox. I don't account posing as a kid within seconds. Freak freak freal is probing asking what I'm doing and what I want to do. And all of a sudden my account the account I'm using gets bad. So somebody from Roblox was either in the crowd watching or was monitoring on Fox Nation on and they took it. Now, Freak freak freak freal is a counter for weeks. Right. But the innocent kid gets kicked away because they know it's Chris Hansen testing the system. What was the dating site that Nazi tattoo guy was on that everyone was kind of saying. That's kind of a suspect site and you can look Andrew.

7:27I am so naive about all this stuff like he's like that's just a dating site and everyone else is like nobody goes it. Kick I guess it it. Kick kick. Well, we see that being used in our take down predator investigations but kick the Roblox thing. Yes. Because we have such a presence now on social media. I mean, I've got to be the only 67 year old guy in America who's got a million point one followers on TikTok. Right. But people reach out to me with stuff. So this woman reaches out because she knows I'm doing this investigation to Roblox. It turns out her husband she lives in Harlington, Texas. She catches her husband grooming an underage kid in California. Catches him, reports him to police. You know, they start looking into it and she reaches out to me. So I go down and interview her. Right. We get the goods and then I take him off in the parking lot. They're separated at this point and confront him with the text. Right in your style. Right. And he's I did. I did. I did. I did.

8:27I did. I did. You know, we'll talk about it. So we have this organic part of the documentary unfolding as it happens in real time. Right. They end up getting a statement from the girl in California. They prosecute him and I don't have a crew down there at this moment. And I said, get the arrest on your cell phone and she gets that. The wife. The wife. Wow. So we have all this incorporated that in the documentary that just evolves organically because of our relationship with the people who follow our work on True Blue, you know, on the digital platforms. How does the grooming work? They start with people and say, oh, you like baseball? I like baseball too. Whatever. Whatever they pose as a child and adult poses as a child, we've seen these cases on roadblocks where they meet. They go into separate chat rooms. The parents don't know what protections to put in place oftentimes. Sometimes they're with grandma. They're in Iowa. And suddenly, hey, I'd like to meet, you know, but I'm a little bit older, but I'd like to

9:27do this and I'll give you that and, you know, it's the grooming process. And suddenly they're picking the girl up from a McDonald's in Iowa and taking her down to Tennessee to some secret hideaway where they're going to sexually exploit this child. Oh, God. And what about, I just learned about prime time, the move, the feature. Yeah, what about that? I heard about that. I heard about that. I heard about that. Playing Chris Hansen, everybody, got a big A-lister playing you. Always good. He's nice looking. He's a good looking. That's a good thing. He's doing that you a little bit, but not full. I don't know. I could hear a little of the voice. He didn't have the courtesy to come to me about making the movie. They never do. They never do. And A-24. And again, you know, look, Robert Pattinson's a great actor. He seems like a nice guy. He's been very gracious to me in his comments. I've not seen the movie. I was supposed to go see it. They wanted an NDA sign and I refused to sign it. That would hold the buckle there. But they come to me on May 27th and say, hey, we're doing this movie.

10:30I'd heard about it, obviously. You're not an investigative reporter for 45 years. We're hearing about it. So I was hip to it was going on, but we didn't know much about it. They sent me a trailer and said, this is going out tomorrow. The trailer. The trailer. We want you to see it. And we also want you to help promote the film. Really? And I said, I said, well, how do you want to do that? And they said, well, we buy some ad space on your platforms, true blue, your podcasts, all the stuff. And I said, well, we'd like to see the movie first. And he said, well, we'll get to that. And so over the period of several months, we asked to see it, asked to see a script, asked to see the whole thing. And I hear from Lance Oppenheim indirectly through another friend of mine that he's the director. He's the director. It's very high score on Rotten Tomatoes right now. Yeah, no, it's a hot topic. And he's a hot director. He's a hot director. He says, a love letter to Chris and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So anyway, we start to see more and more of this play out. And we find out that it's a complete work of fiction,

11:30overly dramatized. And it portrays everybody involved, myself included, as these power-hungry greedy media people. And I watched the whole trailer. Nothing in that trailer happened in real life. Yeah. I mean, the real meaty stuff that they claim happened didn't happen. I don't even wear a tie ever in a theater. Yeah. And that's just a sidebar to this thing. But nothing ever happened. So I go to the screening. Now, I know they want this NDA sign. I have seen the NDA. And I know I'm not going to sign it. We show up at A24 offices in New York. Nice people, nice publicity people. What would incentivize you to sign a non-disclosure? Nothing. No boy would ever let me see it. Yeah, that's what's in it for you. Yeah. And A24 said, well, it's just our standard disclosure. I said, well, standard if your name's not Chris Hansen. Right. Right. So did you see the film? No. They still want that idea. And what's that? I'm going to go with everybody else on May 24th of New York. I'm going to go take a crew. We're going to do a special segment on they have a sea with Chris Hansen podcast.

12:33And we're going to do a special live. So I'm going to go see the film with a TV crew and do man on the street interviews afterwards. Wait, you said May 24th? It's May 24th late in the day, but the official releases. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I keep saying this. It's September. September 24th. Yeah. Coming up. Yeah. May 27th is when it started when they told me. Yeah. Right. That's why I got my exact. So maybe I should have been a reporter. Yeah. You're good. I'm good with the official particular. So yeah, in the trailer, which I watched, what did you think of it? It doesn't seem like a flattering portrayal. No, it's not a flattering portrayal. But it's interesting. Yeah. And I don't know artistic license. I don't know. It just feels like. They're okay. I will say this. And you tell me if you find this true. Yeah. People who are listening have no idea how inaccurate things are until somebody writes an article

13:37about you. Exactly. And now you have to see everything through that lens. Right. Because when they start writing articles about you, you look at you don't get three lines in before they fucked up something. Some like the LA Times wrote an article about this thing. Everything was right. Oh, it did. Yeah. I mean, you may not like all the stuff, but it was right. It was correct. It was factual. I know the reporter. He did a great time. Hollywood Reporter. Facial. About what this is about. About this particular. No, I'm saying that's fine. Yeah. No, no. You can read somebody writing what happened about Monday night football last night. But when they start writing about you, suddenly you're sensitive, right? That's why I don't know. Well, no, it just like take its stuff wrong. Yeah. All the time. And they make a movie about, I mean. Well, we have it. So we've decided, look, we're going to take advantage of this. Sure. As much as we can. Why not? I mean, I think it's a bit of an insult to lower what we do in our collaborations with

14:43law enforcement and the thousands of men and women who work to protect children for predators every day in society. I think it's an insult to lower it to the level they lowered it. Having said that, I think that it's an opportunity for us to capitalize. And that's why we created a 30 second commercial and bought space in front of every showing in this movie and 3,500 screens across America that's going to play every time somebody goes to see this movie. Thank you for the movie roles. They see me walk into a kitchen to have a seat in the theater and remind them that this important work continues every day on my streaming network, TrueBlueWatchTrueBlue.com. That's really interesting. So you can buy a 30 second spot after the Coke and the popcorn one. Interesting. That's exactly what we did. A drove to Vegas in an electric car in a Tesla. How do that go? I wanted to kind of share that with people because I think I was pretty apprehensive about

15:46getting a Tesla because I wasn't going to be able to make it to Vegas in one clean shot, you know what I mean? Desert being eaten by a sneeze. That's right. Or giant alien jerky guy. So I'll tell you what it does. It's kind of interesting. I left here. And it's a brand new Tesla. It's a brand new Tesla and I just put in the coordinates for Jimmy's Club in Vegas. And it's self driving this Tesla. It's self driving, but you have to kind of pay attention otherwise. Touch the wheel and it'll give you a time out if you stare at your lap for too long. So what it does is you leave and it already knows we're not making it. We're not making it all the way there in one clean shot. So what it does is it sets its coordinates to the charging place in Baker, not to Kimmel's place. We're stopping. And is it tell you that it's going to do this? It basically just goes, you should glean it as what it's saying.

16:50Like you should be smart enough to figure this out. And then what it does is it starts calculating. Like you'll be down to 8% by the time we get to the charging station in Baker or you'll be down to it. And that number will move around. Like it'll be 10%. Then it'll go down a little. So it's like a iPhone basically. Yeah. But it'll go, it can move around. It can go up a little too. Like you'll have 13% battery by the time we pull in. And we should affect this when you drive the car. Yeah, the heat is not the friend of the battery. Right. And then you will pull in, it will pull you in to this charging port station. And it'll tell you you need eight minutes on this charger and then you can be on your way. Right. So to something at the charging station is in the middle of nowhere. No, it's right in the middle of the wherever you could get a sandwich or whatever, take a leak, whatever. See, you kind of go, well, I'm going to take a piss anyway. So we pull off, get something to drink, get back the car.

17:52Now the car is not fully charged, but it's charged enough to get you to destination, which is what it is. The problem is once we were in Vegas, we probably should have charged it up enough so that when we left in the middle of the night to go home on a Saturday night, we'd have to sit in Baker for 25 minutes at two in the morning. You got to kind of top it off and then you can stop and do seven minutes and then continue on. Self drive things pretty cool. Yeah. I'm a guy who loves driving, like driving. Yeah, I'm the same. I'm a Detroit guy. Yeah, you're Detroit guy. One of my cars has the semi automatic driving where you can hit it in it'll change lanes. You put the blinker on and it'll change. What kind of car is that? That's a BMW 700. This actually, I didn't think I would enjoy the self driving as much as I do. There's something about it that just kind of takes all the concentration out of it.

18:59I don't think you know it's kind of low grade concentration, but it's still concentration. Yeah, you're watching and yeah, you're sort of relaxed. Yeah, you can just sort of relax. You can't go to sleep. But how is the traffic driving? I mean, you pretty much on wide open highway without a lot of cars. It'll, it has three settings. It has like slow, no, I think four. It's like a little in a hurry and then it has mad max and I would, I would hit mad max or the problem with mad max is driving out of Vegas. There's a cop and we go blowing right past them. It needs to recognize law enforcement is what it needs. You think that it could have some interface with like ways or something where there's interactive. I mean, it'll get that. We just blew past the cop. Did you stop it? No, we should have. I don't know. Well, how fast does it test like that go?

20:01It'll probably get to 120 or something. It was like 55 and we were doing like 73 or something when we passed them in mad max mode. Yeah. So you've probably been let out of a few tickets being who you are and recognizable and law enforcement and all that stuff. Is that right? Ten not to drive aggressively. I had one incident I was driving to the Detroit airport and I was coming from a Michigan State University game and I was with my son and I think some other neighbors and I was booting it because I had to drop them off and then I was going to go shoot a story and my other son was attending Michigan State. That's where I went. What the big win against Oregon list? No. Oh, that was Oklahoma State. Oklahoma and University of Michigan. But anyway, right at that moment my son looks up from the pastor. She says, Dad, you're doing nine egg. Oh, geez. Back it down. Of course, I see one of Taylor Michigan's finest and pulls me over and I say, Hey, how

21:05you doing? I said, I'm sorry. I was awesome to give him the airport. I took a wrong turn. I was trying to make up time. As a guy, he's your license and I say, yeah, and he recognized me. And do you have anything on your record? I said, no. And he goes back and runs it. He goes back, because do you think you could make it to the airport the last quarter mile without breaking the laws of the fine state of Michigan? I think I think I can do that. Oh, yeah, Michigan, Michigan, the one second hell Mary. Well, you know, that was crazy. Michigan state people like me have a blood feud with Michigan people. We hate each other. I have a hate exemption. Like my sister, I don't hate she with the Michigan. I'm Brady. I don't hate. He went to Michigan. Andrea Fisher, I don't hate Diane Deets. I don't hate the I have a specific list of people I don't hate to Michigan, but I hate everything else. Right. Because they've been screwing Michigan state for 100 years. Yeah. Keeping us down. Yeah, yeah. And and trying to protect themselves.

22:06And that was so offensive. What happened? The one Western Michigan University. I know. They won this game. The Broncos. I look, I don't want to be a douche, but I'll tell you old school football coach. Yeah. Old school football coaching will, they'll line the ball up on the one and it'll be fourth in one and they'll go in for it. There's two seconds left and they don't punch it in. And the coach will go, if we can't make one goddamn yard, we don't deserve to win this game. Exactly. And I'm saying they still had to throw a hail Mary. Yeah. But they got one second. Right. And maybe that was a robbery. I think it was a robbery. I think it was a robbery. I think it was a robbery. I think it was a robbery. Back at. So it's like on one hand, there's robbery. On the other hand, they still had to do a hail Mary, which is a real low percentage. You are correct. And you are being objective. I cannot be objective because I hate Michigan so much. So I, that's what I think is, is in fact, I was in the gym the other day in New York and

23:09there's a woman, a very nice woman who goes there and she went to Michigan and we tease each other. And there's this uneasy, true. She knows I'm going to bring it up and she doesn't win her how. So finally about three quarters of way through my work out, I said, hey, do you have a second? Yeah, what do you need? I go, no, do you have a second? Just, ah, that's funny. We have the theater trailer ready to play by the way. We can take a look. Hold on to your hats. It's very dramatic. Yes. Oh, this is my commercial. Yes, your commercial. Sorry. I love this. I'm Chris Hansen and I'm going to need everyone in the theater to take a seat right over there. You know, I've spent decades working with law enforcement to catch predators before they exploit our children. Now there are more platforms than ever before where this disturbing crime is being committed and we are there to take down the predators. Join us undercover every day on my streaming network True Blue.

24:10Nice. Yeah. So, you know, you got blessed America because they did this unauthorized whatever they put you in a tie for Christ's sake. Yeah. What's up with that? What's up with the tie? No turtlenecks. No, I have a beautiful collection of turtlenecks that I wear. And Dickies for summer weather. You know, we had to wear those as kids. Dickies. Yeah. I had them. What? You grew up, you must have grown up in a normal household, right? It's, yeah, it's very normal. I mean, very comfortable, but certainly not wealthy. I mean, you know, my mom stayed home to care of the kids. My dad was in sales and the auto industry in Big Bill. What, uh, which I figured out how good your mom was. Now, what we do here is we grade them based on their sandwiches. Yeah. And the reason I, the best sandwiches, the reason I use the sandwich is I can't, it's, there's too many machinations of moms like, well, she didn't get out to my literally games, but she was a full-time nurse so she couldn't make it during, she worked the shift during the day. And I was like, I can't, right.

25:10I was too much, too much film to break down. Right. Sandwich is as easy. Sandwiches, you have to have that much Hoffman's hard salami on whole week, Brad. And judge that's an inch and seven eights. Okay. So it's a thick sandwich. Doctors would come in on it. Dr. Drew had a shit sandwich mom. Andrew over there had a great sandwich mom. She toasted. Great sandwich. She toasted. She was like working it, like living a quiz nose. She toasted his bread. My mom was a no sandwich mom, which is as low as you go. And then there's everything in between. Yeah. So we can judge the love of mother has for her son by the effort she puts into the sandwich. Because the sandwich is just a metaphor for how much energy she putting into you. And everything was individually wrapped and in a bag and beautifully done. And she did the ones you wanted. Absolutely. What was your sandwich? Hard salami. Piece of cheddar, little mustard.

26:11What kind of bread? Whole wheat. We only had one. Early in childhood, it was a lawless land. Coca-Cola's, Pepsi Cola's, potato chips, everything. And my mom had a health scare. And probably when I was about in sixth grade. And it spent literally six weeks in the hospital. We'd go to the kitchen and got through it. It was fine. But she came out of it a bit of a health nut. Not crazy, but really no more candy except on holidays, no crap, no soft drinks. You know, she buckled on us, which was great. Yeah. But old school health food is not what today's health food is. No. It was pretty much, here's a bunch of shit you can't eat. And then you're like, all right, where's the list of the shit I can eat? We haven't made that list. We just got a list of stuff you can't eat. No more sugar. All the shit you want, all the cereal you want. Yeah, the cereal got cut. I mean, I, you know, I raised on count chocolate and kept it crunch for the first, you know,

27:13five or six years and then all that went away. But at least you got salami. Yeah, salami rose beef, got rose beef. See if you can learn. And then because I worked at Mr. Pastries, bakery and deli, I went after school. I would go to Mr. Pastries. And before we got to work, take a hoey roll and shave off whatever deli meat I wanted to make a huge sandwich just to start the day. Start the evening. Your mom, see your mom was health food, but she wasn't California health food because California health foods. This is suburb and Detroit. That was no meat. It was all cut out. You wouldn't get any of it. We had cornbeaves, salami, rose beef, occasionally a cold hamburger left over from the night before, I'm going here, which I enjoyed. So mom would pack the lunch. Mom would pack the lunch for me and I think for my sisters too. Every morning she's got up. Yeah. Sometimes the night before. Sometimes the night before. Even in high school. Which you do dinner? Yeah. Yeah, most nights. Sometimes when, you know, as I'm working my way through high school kids had sports and

28:15stuff as it was coming home at different times. So there's always something there. You never walked into an empty kitchen or a situation where you didn't have the ability to warm something. When you were a kid, did you do traditional dinners like at night, six o'clock, your dad would come home, sit down. Well, I did because he entertained and traveled. Our dinners would be closer to seven. Now, when he was gone and traveling, we would be, you know, clockwork six, six, thirty. And then you would have the opportunity to warm it up if you're late from practice for football or something. But on the weekends, it was all about the traditional dinner, whatever it was, grilling or a roast or steak, whatever it was in the menu. You sat down and ate. And your dad was around doing sales back when it was a thing. These were the guys who invented the three martini lunch. Right. And they're part of that whole crew in Detroit. Right. Right. You had to wine and dine people, show them a good, it was very, we had season tickets to

29:16the Tigers, the Lions, the Red Wings. I mean, because he had to take, guess, it was a lot. Remember, it was like a little bewitched Larry take kind of like showing so's coming to dinner tonight. He's a madman, you know. Right. That's interesting. You had a good dude. He was a very good dude. He was a very good dude and died way too young, sadly. He was, you know, he was a big guy. Didn't take particularly great care of himself. Wasn't a, you know, a messy, heavy drinker, but a steady guy. And you know, that wears you down after a period of time. And, you know, he was heavy and he had a A-Fib and ultimately had a stroke at 64, which took him. You know, you look at that and you say, okay, how am I going to change my program? And what example am I going to set for my kids coming? And so you adjust to have longevity. But that didn't take anything away from him in terms of being a good dad and, you know, doing the best he was capable of doing. Was he around to see your success?

30:17Yeah, he was around, he was, I was 40 when he passed away. So I was at Dateline. He never saw any of the predator stuff. But he saw, you know, a lot of good work that I was very proud of. He saw me cover, you know, the Oklahoma City bombing. He was dead by the time that 9-11 came around, but he saw me do a lot of what I thought was very cool quality work. Simply safe. Today's burglars have done the math. They know that if they trigger your alarm, they'll still have time to grab what they want and go. Simply safe is different. And an intruder sets foot on your property, AI powered cameras, detect them. Then a live US-based agent takes action to deter them before a window-ever breaks. This is great for me because I travel all the time. I'm in Los Angeles. It's full of crime and I can sleep well knowing that my assets, my belongings and my family

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33:23Try Quo for free. Plus get 20% off your first six months when you go to Quo.com slash Adam. That's Q-U-O. .com slash Adam. How much 9-11 coverage did you do? I did a lot. I did. I was actually in Toronto when it happened. Obviously on an unrelated story, the fellas had gone out for drinks that I before and I had for whatever reason said, you guys go ahead and I got a good night's sleep, got up with for runs, sitting there watching the Today Show and smokes coming from one of the towers. I call up and said, hey, what's up? Is it well, we think a private jet got twisting around and something or a heart attack and just keep doing what you're doing. And then I see the second tower hit. I said, I'm on my way. And so we go to the airport and of course they're shutting down airspace. And I said to the producer, I said, go to Hertz and just get whatever car you can get and get it now. So we started driving. We get to the border. How long does that drive? To from Toronto to the border, I think was three hours to the peace bridge, three or four

34:28hours of the peace bridge. And then at that point, we almost didn't get over. I had to call in a favor to get them to let us across the border. And then it was, do you want us in Boston or New York? It's a go to Boston. We've got nobody to Boston. Some of the planes came from there and get there. And so that's where we went. We covered it two days and two nights from Boston live and then went to New York and covered it either in New York or Washington for the duration. Because of the 25th year anniversary, I've been getting lots of stuff in the feed and God just listening to those recordings of the people from the plane who know they're never coming back. Kind of thing. In the voice mails from the people in the towers saying, I think I'm going to be okay. We're waiting to see what's going on. And then you hear the next one and the next one and the next one. And I went over to Canterf its Gerald. I represented a law enforcement charity that I worked with. And they had a big thing at Canterf its Gerald's office, a fundraising thing. And boy, it really brought it all back.

35:29Yeah. Listening to those recordings, it's so striking. Men and women calling from the airplane once they realized what was going on. Their fate was sealed. And the theme was, who don't worry about me, have a good time, live your life. It was also magnanimous. Nobody started screaming why or anything. Everybody did what they're supposed to do. And that was our Pearl Harbor. Yes. That was our generation's Pearl Harbor. And whether you were a journalist or whether you were a finance guy or an entertainer, everybody pulled together in a way I've never seen in the time I've been alive on this planet. And I remember it being so quiet in New York. And it was that way on the 11th, on Friday, walking out of Canterf its Gerald.

36:32And I walked by St. Patrick's Cathedral and took in some of that and went on about my day afterwards. But it was quiet, respectful. And it was taking people back to, I think in some ways, just to more civilize, more patriotic time when everybody got together. And with the light, George Bush or not, he went to the site and he stood with the firefighter. And I was at the Yankees game when he threw out that first page. Oh, really? And I don't know how I, we're working around the clock. But I sneaked out with a couple of buddies. One of them was an FBI agent working on the whole thing, too. And we just took in the game. And I remember the chopper landing and him being hustled in and throwing the pitch. And the patriotism and the loyalty to our country. Yeah. And we'll never let this happen again. It was overwhelming. Yeah.

37:32You know, and it was just, it was striking it. And if you ever watched the documentary they did using all the behind the scenes footage of the president and his team that day. Where he was at the school and in front of the kids. And then they follow him in the Air Force One. They go emergency landing and wherever he was in South Dakota, whatever it is. And they follow the whole day. But was striking to me. I remember being live from Boston that first night. And I had heard from five or six very good sources that we had shot down that plane in Pennsylvania. Uh-huh, right. Right. And I'm rastling with whether to report this or not. And I ended up not because it ended up not being true. Right. The Let's Roll plane. Yeah, exactly. But come to find out watching this documentary, there was a period of time that day that the president himself thought we had shot down that plane. Oh, wow. That's crazy. You know, so I felt, I mean, I didn't report it. So it didn't matter. But I felt the genre rated for at least considering reporting when the president of the United

38:34States thought that they had. Yeah. It's such an interesting time. It's like years. I mean, God, how is that? You know, yes. I know. And then it also makes you realize, as I was talking to Dr. Drew this morning, I just go, I can't believe you know, we're talking about it was a simpler time back then. You know, people came together. Now we're just fights about everything all the time. Absolutely. And it all feels, what I said to Dr. Drew is, it all feels just like a waste. Like, you know, we have all this technology, we have all this time, we have all this comfort, we have all these options. Why we waste so much time just arguing about everything all the time. Like just get, get on with it. Get a hobby. Get something to do. Start a project. It's an endless amount of energy that people have to argue about nothing when it's like, oh, okay, Trump wants to build a ballroom. Okay. Who cares? Or not? I mean, and like, how deeply invested do we need?

39:35How deeply invested do I need to get in the, you know, the trial of the mom who killed her kids, you know, like, why do I need to be so invested in things I've nothing to do with? I mean, it's a limited amount of time on the planet. We've been barred by information at all levels now. And so everybody gets to have an opinion. You know, I have this conversation with my wife, who sometimes reads the comments. I said, it's important for me as a journalist, a content creator, all the things I do to have a connection with my audience, you know, as organic as I can manage it. But some of these people aren't our audience. Some people are just snipers who like to save things or do things and you can't read it. You got to be a stoic about it. You just got to say, look, I know what I do every day. I know I take care of all my people. I know that I serve a purpose. And I'm going to focus on that. And I don't care what a critic says on us. You know, I'm sort of mixed about it because I believe that you can read comments.

40:41I do. And you can kind of go, if there's a theme that starts to, then you can kind of go, okay, I noted, I get it. Maybe a little too much of that, not enough of this or something. But that's what I'm saying. Right. We need as people who create content to continue to have some organic connection with our audience, our people to serve. And which is why I'm so gracious and public, you know, we'll try to be. I mean, I go out of my way to say hello to people and because people want to tell you what they think. And oftentimes because of the stories that I do and the takedown series and the predator series, people come up to me and say, hey, thank you. This happened to me when I was a child and every time you get one of these guys or do one of these investigations, it gives me a sense of justice and gives me a feeling of control in my life and set as a fan. Right. That is a very oftentimes painful thing for somebody to admit.

41:43And I don't take that lightly. Right. I mean, it's part of the reason why I do this job, that part of my job. So it's important to listen to people, but I'm more talking about, you know, some a-hole who just, you know, is trolling you on acts or something. No, I can't, I'm just not going to worry about it. No, you shouldn't. And also my wife will start a fight with these people. And I said, look, I got a lot going on. You're getting back to a theory. I got to start fighting. My series, women are much more involved and there's a lot more than- They're not talking about their men. They're not talking about their guys. They just put their scrap in. That's true. Like, the, the, the women outside of the courthouse or whatever with their pink jerseys on, it's like, it's just a lot of weaponized women out there and it's, they're duking it out, man. It's kind of interesting. And they're physically fighting a lot too, according to the internet as well. I've seen it. I've seen a lot of that. You and I are for a certain age. There was no such thing as women physically fighting when we were growing up.

42:43I mean, it was this insanely, Haley's comment rare, right? Now it's gotten to sort of almost routine and maybe surpassed men fighting. I feel like when I turn on the internet, I actually have more women fighting than men fighting these days. I cannot say statistically that's true. But just for my observations, well, it's 24 seven. Mm hmm. I mean, it never stops. So if you're looking to pick a fight, yes, you can find it. Yes. And though always be someone to take the other side on any platform. Yes. Even on Facebook, you've got families fighting about, you know, nonsense and, you know, the rivalries and things and picking at each other. I just, just put the pictures of the grandkids up. And the birthday pictures and, you know, let it ride for a minute. You don't have to pick a fight with everybody. I think my theory is the sedentary lifestyle with air conditioning and the, you know, grub

43:49hub and everything. People need to go out. They need to till some soil. They need to get tired and then you come right and come back and get 15,000. Someone needs to come home tired. Yeah. You have to come home and go. I'm tired. I'm just, you know, in Michigan or the apartment in New York, I, you know, I'm ready to unwind. Yes. I'm ready to escape and have quiet time. I don't jump on a social media platform to stir up nonsense. Yes. I've done that all day. I've stirred up trouble. It's my job. Just during it up. Yes. You know. And so when I get there, I would like to drive my car, which I can't do in New York. I don't have cars there. I like to put fish, meat or poultry on a open fire in the backyard. I don't know. Yes. Create some sort of sustenance for my family. Yes. Or do whatever. Yeah. You know, I don't do wood carving. I, you know, I'll hit a ball with a stick and I have fun with that or ski down a mountain. I've fun with that. But, but, you know, you just got to separate yourself. What is a hobby you might have?

44:49I mean, playing, playing, you know, skiing as a hobby, but I actually can't do every weekend or whatever. I, I like to read, you know, I always, I'm a weird reader. I have three or four books going at all times and I'll switch back to it. I want to read Bob Spitz's book about the Rolling Stones. I'll get into that if I want to read, you know, the Theodore Roosevelt trilogy. I'll get back into that or something that's disturbing or something that, you know, that I'm working on. We decided to deal with Simon and Schuster for a Christmas thriller series. So we're working on that. And I find that kind of fun because you're telling stories. It's a fictional series, but it's based on real life experience. So I find myself mining stuff that happened to me from my drywall hauling days or Mr. P.E.S.D.s or something in college and it all gets woven in. And I've got an incredibly gifted co-writer and partnered a lot of my productions, Joe Garner, who keeps this thing on track. But, you know, that to me, even though it's work related, it's a creative endeavor that

45:49is different than having a sting or going out and shooting a documentary or anything. Is it sort of not the same, but in the vein of like Bill O'Reilly does a series, successful series of books, you know, he picks a subject, has his names on it, it sort of is Sian. There's a guy and it's not the name is Chris Hansen. The irony is that, you know, my own thriller series doesn't use my name except for the author title, but the fake movie has taken my name for fun and profit. Yes. Is there anything you can do, by the way, when they do that? I've got it. That's it. I've got it. I've got it. Four years looking at it. I mean, some of the brightest guys in the field and, you know, it's, it's a question of ethics and it's a question of business practices. And I mean, maybe you extrapolate that into, if I identity theft, I mean, if I take Adam Krohla, I tell your name and I take it without your permission and I use it to make

46:50money. Yeah. Is that not identity theft? Yeah. Well, there's also the basic question here. Yeah. Okay. You can't take a cut out picture of George Clooney and put your watch on the cardboard wrist and put it in front of your watch shop because it's Clooney and you're, he needs to be compensated for that advertisement. For that. Whenever I talk to Mark Garagos about any of this stuff, it's always, can you prove damages? Right. Now, if they had you as a junkie in this movie portrayal, then you could prove damages. Right. I imagine. Well, even because you, and because I am a public figure, the bar for defamation is very hot. Yeah. Now, you could do it. Listen, I, you know, I can throw a switch and make it happen on a number of different levels tomorrow. Then does it become, this is the movie, Chris Hansen doesn't want you to see. Uh-huh. You know, I'm not going to get a restraining order or a season deceased.

47:54I mean, they're going to do what they're going to do. They were sneaking in disingenuous about it at the best level. Right. I mean, who does a movie about a live guy who's still doing it? Right. Doing is, you know, by the way, being the real Chris Hansen takes up most of my day. Full time. So, a lot of time to go deal with the fake Chris Hansen in the movie. You know, I made a documentary called the 24 hour war, which is Ford V Ferrari before that movie came out. Yeah. And they clearly watched it to use it as a, you know, a yardstick, a measuring point or whatever to start creating their, their thing. They'd be dumb not to watch it. Sure. It's a two hour doc on the subject. Right. We're trying to make a movie about. And like, we knew they watching things like that, but they'll never contact you and go, like, hey, can we watch it? Tell us what you know or tell us about the experience or whatever that was. It won't take much to have a, to have an ambassador of good faith out there. Yes.

48:54It'd be pretty, pretty easy. They never do. And I don't know if it's a legal thing or I don't know what it is, but they, I think it's a Hollywood arrogance thing quite honestly. I mean, I think they don't do things that they don't want to do. They obviously had a very dark vision for this dramatized version of the story. They had used a hit piece article that was in Esquire that focused on the, I hit piece on you. A hit piece on this, on the show and by extension me. And it was about the assistant district attorney who killed himself in Texas. He was caught chatting with two decoys posing as 13 year old boys. He broke the law by doing that according to the police. The police went out to arrest him because they were worried about evidence disappearing on his end. And I didn't make that decision. The police made the decision. So as they were arresting him, he committed suicide. Right.

49:55Big story, which we reported fully the next morning on the today show. Right. Right. The predator series is that we have been painstakingly transparent about it from the very beginning at NBC through today at True Blue with take down. You know, people ask sometimes, what's the weirdest thing that ended up on the editing of the floor? Nothing. Right. Now, we, you know, depending on where this goes, if I do a version for Jesse Watershow, obviously we can't use the same word sometimes that we use on a streaming service. True Blue. Right. And we have a different, you know, broadcast format. So we tone it down a little bit, but I mean, you see everything that happens. Right. And so what they want to do is create this, and this is why I hate watching movies about reporters and TV reporters because they make everybody look horrible. And they don't understand, you know, the nuance of it typically. Yeah. I mean, they probably, they over-termatisize everything like everyone raises their voice

51:00and it's supposed to be so intense and there's like everyone's an asshole and everyone's screaming at their assistant, you screwed my coffee up and go fix it. And in this case, they use real names. So they use the real name of my producer from Ticetra Petter, because they have heard doing stuff that she wouldn't even think of doing. Really? And she calls me and she's just noticed via the trailer. I know this via the trailer. And obviously other people have seen that film. I can't see it. He let a director of the documentary Predator's Sia, and I asked them at the A24 potential screening that didn't happen about that. I said, you let David Osset's here. Mm-hmm. Well, that was a different sort of screening. He was with the director in an editing room and this is an official A24 screen. I said, well, give me that screening. Right. He didn't have to sign an interview. So your director or producer on Predator, catcher Predator, female, they use their name. They use her name. Her whole name.

52:00Her whole name. And then you know what, Ossetter? Hmm. Besides being portrayed as, you know, a horrible person in a, in a horrible producer, which was a nov, she was upset because it shows me yelling at her and the team, which has never happened in the history of my career. Right. I don't yell at people. Yeah. I don't get upset. I protect my people. Yeah. And I would not ask any of my people to do anything that I wouldn't do from the lead. Right. Yeah, we worked till six o'clock in the morning on these investigations. But guess what? I'm right there. I don't go to the hotel and take a nap and say, hey, call me if something happens. We're all together at this. Wow. They use the same names. That's interesting. Yeah. All the way through. And so why did they do that? They do it, at least in my case, because it has commercial value. It's a brand that I've spent 45 years building. So now they're going to exploit that. It's almost like they're exhibiting predatory behavior, doing a movie about a guy who came

53:03up with a series to catch bad guys who are praying on children. So now they're praying on me to exploit my work. Yeah. And that's why I've said it's an insult to the thousands of people who go out and do this work every day. They've reduced something that has had tremendously positive impact to, you know, some Aussie reporters arguing about TV ratings. So you feel like you got a pretty good picture of what you've talked to enough people have seen it. Yeah. And I'm going to go watch it in New York. Oh, when it comes out. And I'm going to take a crew with me. Oh, right. And I'm going to do man on the street interviews afterwards. We're going to go to big theater right in Times Square. I'm the 24th. And then I'm going to take it all and put it together for a special episode of Have a See With Chris Hanson, my podcast on the YouTube channel, the same name. Well, look, my soul lean into it and get something out of it. I'm not hiding from it. Right. I mean, I know what the truth is. Yeah. And I think everybody who's watched the show knows what the truth is.

54:07So I'm not going to tell people not to go see the movie. You want to go see the movie? But realize it's a dark dramatization. And there is nothing at least in the trailer that happened in real life, except saying, I'm Chris Hanson. I'm going to need you to have a seat right over there. Do you feel like you have built up enough calluses to be OK with people walking around with the wrong idea about you in an unflattering way in their head? It is kind of the business you're in. Your producer is not in that business. Well, she's not a public figure. That's what I'm saying. She should have to deal with this. She's a hard working person who continues to work. But not even whether you should or shouldn't, it's just you are not going to be as affected by it because of your background experience. I've been doing this for 45 years. It's like somebody criticizing you for hanging out with Jimmy Kimmel. You don't care about that criticism. Do you know it's it's it's kind of weird.

55:09It's kind of weird how much of that I would I get and it doesn't bother me at all. It's because you're confident you're thick skinned. You know what you do every day. You know the content you produce every day. You know what kind of a guy Jimmy Kimmel is when politics are taken out of it. You know the guy. You know yourself. I'm the same way. I just again, I'd be stupid if I didn't use it to the best of my ability for my current projects. Yeah. We've got a documentary and it's we you know I participated in it but there's a documentary that was in production before anybody knew about this film called I'm Chris Hanson and it digs deep into my background and my you know process and my career and my family and so that they're doing this final sound mix today and that'll come out. I'm not sure where it's going to air first but several meetings will take place in the evening. You've seen that. I haven't seen the final final but you know what I participated in it.

56:11You participated. Yeah. That's interesting. Wow. Everything's coming up Chris Hanson. It is. It's a busy busy life right now. It is you know I the one good thing but I'm but I feel blessed. You are. You're as much as I don't like what they did and I think maybe we should take a look at Lance Oppenheim's chat logs and see what's in there but you know would you prefer a flattering portrayal on a major motion based show of course you would but that's not what happened. So how do you make it a positive thing for all the other positive things you do and you flip it. Right. And you just tell the truth about it. That's all you have to do is tell the truth. Right. And I'm blessed I can come on this show. I can go on a lot of different places and I can say you know this is deal but I knew because I was it was going to be on Jesse's show with some predator clips. The day that the screening was supposed to take place. Uh huh. Jesse Waters.

57:12Jesse Waters on Fox. And it was a good dude and I know you go on that show too. And so at the end of talking about sex torsion the latest predator thing we had been in San Francisco which was interesting. The first time we had done a sting there. And so he at the end he asks because what's up with the movie. I said well as it turns out I was at a 24 today and I told the whole story about the screening and oh yeah they're not having seen the film. And so go back to the apartment and have my dinner. Go to bed at midnight. Ding ding ding ding ding. You have a variety everybody picked up on our conversation. Right. On Jesse's show. And it was off to the race after that. But you know I've stayed two or three steps ahead of the studio and just about everything here. Well like said everything's coming up Chris Hansen and it's also kind of weird too. I've had this experience. You just don't know what's around the next corner. And if you hide from it. You know then you're not going to get to experience the good of it.

58:12No I listen I was literally just thinking earlier today I go you know a week and a half ago I got some vague like hey you want to come out to the RNC and do something and I was like yeah I don't know what a great thing that you're not to be. Right. Everybody involved. You included. I end up having a great time and then I said I'm still on stage with Jimmy two days later. It's like not predictable. None of it. None of it's predictable. I have my buddy saying hey your buddy Krolo was at the you know it turned it in and watched it. You know it was great. It's great stuff. It is a benefit to this business versus working at the Postal Sorting Center in Arlita going on your 57th year. You know what's waiting at that. This is right. You don't know. Every day is a different. It's the spell that's waiting. Well it is. But I agree. You shouldn't be looking for good times. You should be looking for experiences. Exactly.

59:13And experiences will provide fulfillment and good times. And again I go back to this stoicism thing. Right. And a lot of people have figured this. I think I've talked about this before. There's a book called The Book of Charlie. Right. It's about a 109 year old guy who's a doctor in Kansas City talks about all his experiences. But the author gets into stoicism and Marcus really saw that and that set me off the path on that. And just you know you can't worry about things you can't control. Yes. You can. And this is the one thing I always think of every day and I tell him I went this. I said he who suffers before it is necessary suffers more than is necessary. Don't get yourself all worked up about it. I agree. But also this is my little stoicism thing. If it scares you you should probably do it. Like if you think yourself I don't know. That sounds a little scary or little Harry. You should probably say yes. 20 years ago. Right. I had a choice. I could say okay we did four or five episodes of Decatur Predator.

1:00:17That's enough. I'm going to go back to doing more traditional journalism which I kept doing along with it the whole time. 10 amys. None of them for the Predator Investigatives. Interesting. So you have a choice. You either step away from it and say well that's just something I did if you want to continue it. Let somebody else do it or you embrace it for everything it has. Now when I made the decision to embrace it. I knew that there was going to be no chance to go to 60 minutes. Not that that's the be all end all but in my generation that's something your SNL and your sketch. Come at a guy. I'm just fine at date line at NBC. I was cool there and I'm especially cool now but all this stuff happened and it has led me to having my own streaming network to podcasts a massive social media presence and relationships with people like you and others where we can have these great conversations and they go wherever they go. Well it's you know another a perk of this job and it's a perk of your job to some degrees

1:01:22well is you see somebody and then you see him six months later or a year later and they're doing this they're doing that they're doing something else that I've been doing what we're talking about the last time I saw. And it's it's kind of nice. The documentary dangerous games investigating Roblox is on True Blue special also that's the podcast and True Blue crime TV network check all that out. Take down with Chris Hanson on True Blue as well always great catching up with you. Yeah it's a pleasure. I appreciate it. You're well come back anytime. All right. Great to break and at least Kraus got the news right after this. Morgan and Morgan well if I was in an accident and I got hurt through no fall to my own the first thing I would do is hire a personal injury attorney and that would be Morgan and Morgan their America's largest injury law firm. They have over 100 offices nationwide and more than 1000 lawyers with over 30 billion

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1:04:33It's time to check Adam's voicemail. Adam, huge fan. Gotta tell you called love lines like 25 years ago and I was in a rocky marriage and you gave me the best advice I could ever get. Get away from that bitch and I did. Vice been beautiful since. Love you Adam. You can leave us a message at 888-634-1744. Wow. I wouldn't do you remember that caller now. You gave that advice a lot. It started and I figured out I should have used this my own personal life but it's like when people are just a certain way that's just kind of it. I'll give you a real good example. I've had plenty of bad roommates. In the roommate you know you kind of go well I was here first and I put the cleaning deposit down and then they moved in and if anyone's going to move out they should but they

1:05:35don't and they're bad and what I tell everyone is just get out. It's a shit roommate. They're not going to change. There's lots of red flags. It's like stuff where you go it's not fair man. They've made lasagna and they've made the stupid for all the dishes and the sink and then they didn't even clean it up. I know they're never going to do it. I know it's not fair. They're bad. And then it's bad. And then it's bad. Everything's bad. They're bad. They ain't changing. Just leave. It's so funny because I feel like men are more quick to leave a situation than women. Women are like I can change him because we're still in some time. I think women probably think they can change. There are there's no one really changes. Everybody. We're also more empathetic. It's just a package. They have good stuff. They have bad stuff. And you know you kind of try to find the ones that have the more good stuff and the less bad stuff but they're just kind of a package. It's the great Dennis Prager would say and it's kind of who they are and you just have to hang on to the ones that have a higher percentage of good stuff and a low percentage

1:06:41of bad stuff but it's never going to be no percentage of bad stuff because the bad stuff's being defined by you. Yeah. It might not be bad stuff. And what you think is now in 20 years you might find really fricking annoying. Well, I just mean like some people's you know like I don't like slow careful drivers. I don't like that. I would look at that as bad stuff but they don't look at it as bad stuff. They look at it as safety. You know what I mean? So it's kind of in the eye. Some of the bad stuff's like in the eye of the beholder. That's true. No what I mean. Yeah. That's true. Not rinsing coffee mugs is universally bad though. Oh and then as a woman if you're wearing lipstick or lip balm you need to also bring the part where your lip was. Get the kiss and potion off. You got to get it off. So then when it goes through the dishwasher it actually comes off. Or when you go to a restaurant it shows your wine glass shows up with the fucking kiss and potion on it. I'm just at a restaurant the other day and actually with some friends Kelly Rizzo, friend of the pod. And my one girlfriend who likes sports ball Heather Cooney and all of our husband and partners.

1:07:46And there were two drinks in a row that came out and I spotted a chipped glass. A chipped. But we got some free drinks out of it. Oh you did? Yeah. I mean I like it when there's good customer service. All right. So you got some news. Some news for us. Continuing the depressing era of stupidity amongst my own sex. The defense of Lindsey Clancy being a murderer of three innocent children continues. Yes. Did you see her on CBS's CBS mornings? She was talking this juror. So now they're on it. This lady's going to get a lifetime movie made about her. She's going to make like more than six figures. No, no, no, these jurors that are getting out. The jurors are getting movies. Well they're totally going to get made. Like they're going to get book deals. They're going to be doing all this stuff where they're allegedly shilling first women in mental health. I thought they only did know about the actual person. No, lifetime will do a, an approved version of the Linsley. So she's talking to Gail King. So Paula Devlin is one of the Lindsey Clancy jurors. She's the one that's been going around on all this media because she loves the red light

1:08:46apparently and she revealed to Gail King that the lone male hold out juror was, wait for it. A black man. All right. I love her reaction. This video is priceless. I'm going to talk to you about the jurors themselves because we know it was nine women, three men. What was the age range? What was a racial makeup? I haven't heard any of that. What was it? 70, in 70 ish to 22. And one person of color and then everybody else was white. A lot of the jurors had children. One person of color was a person of color, a woman or a man. A man. A man. Is a hold out juror a person, a black man? Yes. A black man is a hold out juror? Yes. Well, I have to sit with that for just a second. Why do you have to sit with us? You've raised this piece of shit. I mean, you have to like a white guy. Oh, so hold on. Kid rock did something.

1:09:48I got to sit with that for a second because I'm white because I'm white. And he's white. See how that worked? It's awesome. You do something. I got to sit with it for a minute. Like I don't know if Ted Kaczynski did something or Joey Butta Foucault did something. I'd have to sit with it for a minute because I'm, you know, you understand that? I'm white. I'm white. I'm a white. Yeah, white. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man. Jeffrey Dahmer. He was black, wasn't he? Oh, white. I got to sit with that. I got to sit. Now I got to sit for a second. How crazy is it for her to assume too that the person of color was going to be okay with the child murderer? I don't even know what her point was. Like the one guy who's the hero of this tale would be like a white Karen who that juror actually is. She's like the definition of Karen and dictionary. Is that lady right there? Right. But like I think she assumed it would be a white Karen or an old white dude. Right. But here's what I'm saying, Gail King, you're supposed to be a reporter, not an advocate

1:10:50for the black race. You're supposed to report things. So when you let things out, like I got to sit with that for a minute, then when Obama runs for president and you're doing a bunch of fluff pieces on Obama, it makes me wonder if you're just an advocate or you're not an actual journalist, which you know, and by the way, black people, you have to stop cheering out loud for like other black people or attacking other black people, disagree with stuff. You're not supposed to let race factor in, meaning you're watching a, here's what I'm not allowed to do. You ready? I'm not allowed to walk into some guy's living room and see a black guy fighting a white guy. And then someone goes, you know, these two fires, I don't know where they from, nowhere near my town. And then the white guy punches the black guy and I go, yeah, yeah, get it. Or you rushed to his defense. Right. It makes me look like this is race based, which we're not supposed to want to see.

1:11:54Yes. Even if we're thinking it in our hearts, not supposed to advertise it. Speak for yourself. I want to hear her again. I want to hear her sitting with it. I want her to, well, I've just the way she, she's like, oh, she's a, she's a, she's surprised because she is human and she's not an unbiased journalist and she has her own biases that were clearly thinking this is an old white Karen or an old white guy. Right. But it kind of reminds me of when Jesse Smollett did his race, hoaxing and everyone was his best friend all of a sudden. Like, I, I, this guy's on a shitty one hour Fox drama. How do you all know this guy? He's a good friend. He's a dear friend. You know, no, he's black and you're black. You know, he's so dear. He knew that he was writing a blank check to some dudes to pretend to be the man. Yes. All right. Was white. A lot of the jurors had children. Uh-huh. And one person of color was a person of color, a woman or a man.

1:12:56A man. A man. A man. Is a holdout juror a person, a black man? Yes. A black man is a holdout juror? Yes. Well, I have to sit without for just a second. Yeah. All right. Alicia Krause always hates me, but that's why we need more women of color and positions of power. This is chicken, chicken crime here, baby. You asked for it. This is your career. This is not me. This is. Do you want to go through all the things that men have done poorly over the years? So this is where we're heading. So this is where we're going now. It's now that women have defaulted to being, you know what? I do partially blame them, the media and social media for this. Though I part of me, my conspiratorial side, come to the cross conspiracy corner for a moment. Mm-hmm. It's KCC, not triple K. But I think that this is a CCP siaop to create unrest and distrust in the American female before the election. I don't. I don't.

1:13:57And so seeds of doubt amongst our fellow Americans. I'm hammering, check. So people are so displeased and there's like feeds into conspiracy and all this stuff. You know, the whole, there's that talarico clip on the breakfast club, Andrew, that we didn't talk about. But it's like a black kid with a history of aggression and weapons and things like that stabs a white kid in the heart and kills them. And then talarico is like, no black people on that jury. I'm sorry. I don't buy. It's like, you don't need black people on the jury. You don't need women. You don't need men. You just need folk who can hear a story. Yeah. But a peer isn't it supposed to be a jury of your peers? And so is peers like your socioeconomic status to talarico is it your skin color? Like what is it? I'm saying everything from them is seen through the lens of race. That's all I'm saying. You could take 100 white people or 100 black people or 100 Eskimos and when they hear the

1:14:59evidence that a guy pulled a knife out stabbed another guy in the heart with it and kill them, then they come back with murder. It's you working race into it. By the way, so what's your suggestion? Your suggestion is if there were some black people on that jury, then he'd be walking free right now because they're racist. It's also insulting. But here's talarico. Well, that's that is that is true. In Texas, we see what happened to me. And you said it was a tragedy. Yeah. What did you mean by that? Well, I've done a lot of work in the state house on Justice Reform. And right now, we've got a system that doesn't serve all Americans equally. We know that black Texans have been, have not gotten the justice they deserve in many cases. And I'm not an expert on this particular case, but I know that there were no black members of the jury. To me, that's the only evidence you need to really prove that this system is not working

1:16:01for black Texans. All right. So all the white people were racist when they sentenced this kid who just to remind everybody of the story, this was the high school football game, right? That's the situation that you're talking about. This is a Carmelo Anthony that is in no way related to the famous Carmelo Anthony for the record. Just add that in. And for a while, we were saying he allegedly did this thing even though there are dozens of eyewitnesses. Yeah. And I think it was on cell phone video. And it was horrific. I mean, a high school kid stabbing a high school kid. Yes. It was scuffle over football. It was sorry. It was at a track meet on, but it was on a football field. That's what kind of and so and this was recent. I mean, they really hustled this case along. Good for them because sometimes justice doesn't, you know, takes forever to prevail. So he's assuming that all of the white jurors just convicted this kid because he's black and had a black juror been on the jury. He would have gotten not guilty or he would have been. He's not assuming anything. First off, he's just at the breakfast club.

1:17:02So he's there to chug some black cock. Doesn't he look so old? That's what he's doing there. He's comfortable there too. Yes, he has the cow cow to black people. I'd love, I could watch a thousand hours of just dumb white people pretending to like black people when they're at the church or at the morning show or wherever the fuck they are. So he's just doing that. He's a fucking asshole in a race hustler. And I, these guys, she everything through race. That's the whole thing. He's also blasphemous. We could toss that. Oh, he's horrible. So wrong when it comes to the Bible. So this, Paula Devlin has been on her media tour, probably trying to drop a book deal. And she was on another show. I think it was also CBS. And she talks about like, oh, you know, I was really hoping that this would help women. Like our decision out there would help women. Okay, let's hear that. We knew that this was a turning point. And this would be something that could change something to make it better for other women in the future for other families. You know, justice for those children is this never happening again.

1:18:08And Devlin talked to me about the, mm-hmm. Yeah. And you got, she's got this in sear face happening. Yeah. She's talking about this. Sear listening face. Like I can totally relate to you. Yes. But I think that this is such a bad part of society. And I blame partly COVID, which I hate to go back to because it was five years or six years ago and I wanted to be done with. Like people that doubt truth because we were lied to, like those in authority for so long. Yes. And I mean, I've talked about this numerous times on TV and YouTube and all this stuff. So people know my two cents on it. But it's like, it is bad when you can honestly say, hey, why are billions of dollars spent on men's health and why aren't women tested when it comes in the same ways that men are invested in and why until 60 years ago where men and women treated the exact same in the medical community, I got a you can bring up all those questions without making a child murderer your mascot. Yes. But the problem is that they're not thinking like this and they are thinking, you know, woman must be innocent no matter what. And turns out there's some pretty evil women out there.

1:19:10Have you seen Kim Jong-un's sister? She allegedly sends dogs after her like political opponents to lead them alive. Wow. But Oprah's doing this stick now. And this was interesting. She had this live event with this round table and she cannot fathom how this woman who looks to be a minority by the way doesn't agree with her about Lindsey Clancy. All right. That's what differing about the case. We are. Yeah. Yeah, we have opposing views. We do. And I think that, you know, I say to her, I think so she hasn't gone through it. She's not a mother. So she doesn't know how it feels to have a child. And you disagree? I disagree. I am. I feel like I'm not with the majority right now. I do believe she's a murderer. Um, I'm in all you've heard today. You should. I'm an advocate for mental health. Yeah. I think it's unfortunate. Like, and she's so quick to say it's she's like, you've never had a baby. You don't understand what it's like to go through all the horrible shifts. For a second. I, I thought she was going to make the argument you haven't had a baby. You don't understand. You would give your life for that child.

1:20:10Yeah. I thought that was her argument. Not take the life out of them. For you times in a row. It's weird to go here. Some, most of the time they go and tell your parent you'll never understand the love and the feeling you have. In my face. And she's making the opposite parent arguments mind boggling to me. That's not like turns out like pregnancy is not an illness and motherhood doesn't make you mentally incapable of making decisions. And it's stupid and it's going backwards for women when we say that. And also I was told for years and years and years specifically by the left leaning feminists when they got pissed at, you know, JD Vance and stuff, we're talking about unmarried cat ladies. Like kind of like going after childless women. Whether or not you have a child or not doesn't belittle your level of equality in our culture. Like your ability to produce offspring doesn't mean that you are greater than other women who do not or cannot or choose not to. But in this case, that is like their number one comeback every single time. It's like, well, if you haven't had a baby, then you don't understand. Right.

1:21:11It's bullshit. All right. Let's hear a little more of the dance cap. I feel like I'm not with the majority right now. I do believe she's a murderer. I'm in all you've heard today. I'm an advocate for mental health. It's just unfortunate. And she's so quick to say it's she's like, you've never had a baby. You don't understand what it's like to go through all the hormonal shifts. But I just feel as though these weren't a lot instant deaths. They weren't gunshots to the head. She was there strangling her kids three times. You're telling me like even after the first time she couldn't snap out of it, you're watching the life leave your kids eyes, you know? So I know I hear everybody's opinions and God bless. What's Bill Burr doing there in the middle of the fucking Yantus? There's one bald white dude. One, there's one like bald ginger dude. Who is this hand-packed pee whipped bald piece of shit? How do you get there? Like I'd like to show him, hey dude, you gotta go work.

1:22:13I don't know what you're what's going on here. There's one of you. What are you doing here? There's only one acceptable answer. You don't know what it is. What? I'm trying to get laid. So I'm pretending to care about shit. It's like the men that go to the women's marches against Donald Trump. Yeah, like half the dudes that were showing up on occupy Wall Street were just trying to get laid. Apparently that was happening in those camps too. Oh yeah. Some consensus or something like that. Oh yeah. I'm sure. Yeah. All right, sorry. We'll hear the rest if it's one or two. There's one dude. So I know I hear everybody's opinions and God bless mothers, but at the same, I just don't understand how we can empathize with somebody that they weren't strangers. They were her kids and she was able to grab those exercise bands that took a lot of effort and it breaks my heart that these young kids gone through that.

1:23:16Like my pastures. Oprah ever say anything more of the shit. I mean, there's no, I don't think there's a male version of Oprah. You have to, there's James Tellerico. Yeah, you may be right. Because there's, I mean, you know, Ben Shapiro has an audience, but then Ben Shapiro says shit. Yeah. Oprah doesn't ever say. Oprah doesn't say anything. DJ Khaled. That could be, that could be our, that could be, yeah, he's a good singer. He's the best or no, we the best. And we're all the best. All right, more Oprah. It says no. It breaks my heart. Uh-huh. That these young kids gone through that, but it's, I'm grateful that this conversation is happening because I do believe like woman. They are. Oprah comes to mental health. I told you it was a ginger. Like there would be like a law that has to go out. There's no eyebrows. Some things going on, but go back. There would have been. Bill Burr is, is sitting amongst these Oprah fans.

1:24:18There he is. Right there. There he is. Here's no eyebrows. Oh, no, no, we're making fun of a stranger, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna like point for my Bilbur. All right, go ahead, sir. Do believe like woman. They are on the back burner when it comes to mental health. But this was a man. Like there would be like a law the next day or something going on, but. There would have been research. It would have been fun, didn't it? Something right away. It's something. But it's just, I just feel like with her, it's becoming, she's becoming a mascot for just, I feel like so many mothers empathize with her so much that they want to put her out. They're make her a mascot and they're turning something so negative into a movement. Okay. I hear that. So y'all will continue. You will not be agreeing no time for it. All right. Thank you, Oprah. Thank you for those insights. You guys, you all not gonna be getting along with the stuff soon, right? Nikki Hayley.

1:25:18Give me a million dollars, somebody. Margaret Thatcher and Amy Coney Barrett and, you know, working professional successful moms who didn't murder their children and mascots for the women's movement. That'd be nice. Did you see that? I agree with you. Hold on. Andrew's got a theory. Oh, yes. He's a cynic, but I kind of agree. The one Bill Burr dude who was stuffed in the middle of all the women of color was to fill it out. Yeah. He's a crowd guy. He's a crowd guy. That was a high ranking production assistant or he set PA in the like, that's a little, it's a little spotty here. Let's fill it up. Yeah. He's a seat filler. When we go to the shot, we need somebody to do that. That's interesting, Andrew. You're cynical, but I like where your head's at. Bill Burr dude sitting amongst all the women is a seat filler who probably is involved with craft services or something or maybe he's that maybe he's the boom mic guy or something. Maybe he loved everyone up and then they went and go sit there. That's my like least favorite part of being on TV is the miking up part.

1:26:21It's always a little homoerotic when the guys reaching down your shirt or reaching up your shirt. They always give you the, the guy gives you the options like you can, I always do it. You can drop, I like him to do it. Sure you do. I'm like warm up those hands, bro. Could you rub them together? I brought you a muff. Put them in, warm them up, then drop it. And by the way, no, I'm not wearing a t-shirt. You're welcome. But you always wear pants. My problem is is like you wear it off and wear like a dress or jumpsuit or something on TV and then you have to like carry the little set to the chair and it's like three times biggest this and I'm always paranoid. I'm going to drop it. The three times biggest your phone? Yeah, there's like, there's like the mic and the pack and the thing. Oh. They'll put you on TV. What I, alright, what I don't like is they, when they put the earpiece in. We always tickles. Well, there's, it doesn't feel good, but they don't push it in. They just sort of put it there. But they always put the little alligator clamp too far on the collar and when you turn your

1:27:21head, it pulls, it's like why not just put it closer to where your ear is. Yeah. So it doesn't, or the direction that you're going to be turning on set. Yeah. I do sometimes ask for that. If it's a good person, they'll do that. By the way, some of the best like, miking up experiences I've had have been when it was a female. I am. That's it. That's it. That's about a 70, 30 split. It's a male dominated industry. Kind of, but not totally. Really? I feel like it's nine times out of ten. It's always a dude. No. No. I give it a 70, 30 split. I got a nice woman who drives the bus who comes over here and does the fox hits and whatever. She's a nice young lady. Yeah. And then there's a dude, but that's kind of 50, 50. I'm trying to think of, there's females in that crew. I'll give it a 70, 30. Okay. All right. Podcasting isn't just about talking. It's about growing, engaging and monetizing. And that's where Podcast One Pro comes in.

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1:30:28Well, first off, does anyone really need an abortion? Like, I don't know what percentage of people that technically need it versus I'd like to have an abortion? I agree. But not number one, number two, they did the same thing that WNBA did, but they paint themselves in the corners with all their, we don't know what a man is. And it's all sort of a gender or something. For a long time, men were not allowed to have a say and whether or not their woman got an abortion because it was her body, her choice. Right. So what they do is they start with an insane premise, which is men, women, women, men, birthing people and all, they start with their insanity. And then they get cornered a little with it. And then they have to come out with more insane statements, whether it's the WNBA or Planned Parenthood. Yep. Based on their initial insanity. And which is their fault. And then they always get pissed off when people sort of call them out on it, but it's you guys who did it in the first place. Well, this is a problem with believing things that actually have no depth to them.

1:31:32Like you, when you don't have core political, personal, religious, moral principles, then you do have to shift and move with like what your team says. Yeah. And turns out that your team tends to be anti-women, anti-scientific, anti-truth. And so then you have to pretend that the thing that you adhered to for years and years and years, the first lie was it's just a blob and not a baby. Right. And then the second lie was that men shouldn't have a say, you know, it's the woman's body, the woman's choice. And now it's well turns out men should be able to do the same thing too and also have a say. Yeah. It's just like the goal post is always moving because they had no core principle other than loving to kill babies apparently. Yes. I think in a weird way, it ends up being, I think a lot of this is not a principle thought. I mean, as you said, but what I'm saying is is a lot of it feels like, you know, you know, like an adolescent, defiant nature.

1:32:39Like here's what I'm for and here's what I'm against. I am for everything that will piss you off. That chick killed three of her kids. Yeah. It's horrible, right? She's a hero. Yeah. Yeah. I'm for everything that'll make you go, are you nuts? What do you for this for? Like this is insane. No, that's in no. It's like the teenage daughter that wants the reaction. Yes. Like she gets the extra earring in the, in the lobe just to stop dad. It's, it is, there is a defiance disorder. Like you'll find it with people. My ex-wife is kind of this way. It's like I was sort of like, how's it you disagree with, or you don't do anything I ever ask ever? Like how come none of this ever happens? And you realize it's a disorder. Like I've had friends that are that way. Like it's just literally whatever you want, whatever you ask for, you're not getting it. And there's, now you get that with nine-year-old daughter sometimes or teenage daughters. Hopefully they grow out of it. You know, my daughter went through a phase. She's really good now. You know, it'd be nice.

1:33:40But you get the feeling with these people. You can set your watch on it. You're like, well, what are they going to do? Well, they're going to, you go, what about this man, Gianni kid, who shot the healthcare? Oh, yeah, big fan. And what about Palestine? Oh, yeah, big fan's of Palestine. And the lady who stabbed the lady in Times Square. Big fan, big fan. And then what about, and at a certain point, it's like almost like you go, you want to go like, I enjoy eating watermelon, hate it. You're like, oh, I just think you're against every single thing that comes out of these people's mouth just makes normal people go, what the fuck? Like what this is insane. I will like a close more. I want an open board. You know, like I don't even know if they know what they're doing. They're in kind of the grievance department. They're not really, it's an, it's a disorder is what I'm saying. You're looking at through some sort of practical lens. They're just fucking battling on everything.

1:34:41You know what I say though, and I say this on campuses to Gen Z years all the time. I'm like, actually nowadays though in 2026, the real active defiance in rebellion is to be like a conservative Christian woman. Yes. I agree. If you all really want to be defiant and stick it to the man and the powers that be, yes, then come join my team guys. I agree. Hey, Andrew, we're trying to figure out off the air. We're talking about that John Stewart clip. There was sort of making the rounds that people were like trying to figure out what John Stewart was talking about. He was getting, he was talking to a hungarian reporter or something. He was getting kind of snarky. He was being sarcastic, but I don't know what his point was. And I talked to Dr. Tru about it, and I'm not sure what his point was other than he's, is this a new show? He doesn't like Hungary. I guess no one on the left likes Hungary because Hungary likes Hungary and they like Hungarians living in Hungary and not Islamists. So they just went, we like our goulash and our chicken pop of cash and no, we don't do

1:35:44a lot of goat based eating over here. So we're just going to keep it this way. I happen to like any country, especially European country, it goes, now we're not just going to open our borders to Islam because those countries all fucking regret it. Yeah. Sweden sure does. Germany. So we here on the left hate Hungary because they have rules and they have pride and they followed it. But I don't know. Let's listen to what John Stewart says here. I guess he's talking to a Hungarian woman who's a reporter. So you're saying if you have a media machine that purposefully lies to its people to maintain a political fiction and get themselves power, that that is the hallmark of an authoritarian system, not a democratic system. Absolutely. Well, if we were ever to get something like that in the United States, we would be

1:36:45horrified, furious to know that there was an entire media organization designed to bend reality, to manipulate facts, to maintain power. If I may and I'm not trying to slam Hungary, it would never happen in the United States. It's just not, I almost can't even conjure it, imagine it. It must be very difficult to live in a country where one media organization out of whole cloth knowingly, explicitly, maybe even in meetings behind the scenes might say, we're lying to our audience, holy shit, and then call for news people to be fired for telling the truth. I mean, if something like that happened in the United States, it would be a dark day indeed. So I appreciate you raising the alarm bells for us. Is he tapped?

1:37:46Does he not remember the Biden White House and DOJ colluding with media and saying, you must say this and this is the narrative that we're going to give on X, Y and Z? It's so much projection. It's insane. And they do this all the time. What about Fox News? What about these seven other thousand other publications that protect Joe Biden and say that Hunter Biden's laptop didn't exist? That work with liberal groups to actually be mouthpieces for the Democratic Party? Right. So is John Stewart saying that? Was he being stupid to do a stick? I was trying to figure out. Look, here's what they do. Elon buys Twitter and they act like that's what's go, you know, the censorship and whatever. Right. Right. No, no, you guys owned Twitter and controlled Twitter and lied through Twitter and Twitter worked with the White House and Big Tech and everything else. And then you guys changed all the narratives on everything. You guys just got done doing this.

1:38:48Just by the way, we're not done with all the lies that are coming out now with the CIA and their participation and everything, everything from Fauci to Hunter Biden's laptop to all the 52 people who signed the declaration saying it had all the earmarks of Russian collusion. You guys just came off of five years of Russian collusion and five years of COVID and Hunter Biden's laptop and Joe Biden's fine. You guys just got done lying by controlling Southern power loss and controlling the media for the last decade. So what is going on? I don't know what this is. A whistleblower, Kamala Harris, ABC whistleblower, an unverified anonymous affidavit circulated on the social media claimed ABC News coordinated with Kamala Harris campaign ahead of the September 10th presidential debate. Yeah, of course, it's all, that's all you guys have done, John Stuart. So I don't know what you're talking about or are you talking about us and our weak

1:39:50confusions? Or what is it? Isn't there an NPR whistleblower too? Yes, it's all, it's all, it's all, it's all, it's all, it's all, it's all, it's all your side. We just lived through this lab or the origins of COVID, everything January 6th, all of it. You guys lied about everything. The Trans-Jenda trying to transition minors and lying to parents and it's totally safe with this. You coordinated with everybody from social media to the big tech platforms to all the news outlets. I have no idea what John, but okay. AI propaganda, dog decision. I mean, the list goes on and on. Oh, oh, all the global warming and all the environmental shit. All right. So John, what is John talking about? I don't, but I can't tell. I think he was doing a stick like he was trying to insinuate that is it, Orban? Yeah. Dr. Orban. Yeah. Well, listen, I'm not a fan of the guy. I agree with his immigration policies, but broadly, I do think that he's a dictator.

1:40:51I'm not a fan of the guy. I don't like how he shuts down, you know, diverse talking, all that stuff. And I think that he was doing a stick and he was trying to be like, Oh, well, if that happened in America and he's insinuating that it is happening in America and it's beyond Fox News now to them because they're so annoyed that Republicans took away federal funding for NPR and they're so annoyed that Barry Weiss is doing a decent job over at CBS News and the free pet press, right? Heaven forbid their fingers not be able to like, puppeteer everything and everyone that they wanted for so long. Right. Yes, your definition of free speech being controlled by others cannot be, we can't control Joe Rogan, therefore, we don't have free speech. And we can't control Twitter and we can't control the outcomes of elections by using the CIA and the FBI. That's your definition of we don't get to control everything. Free speech that they like is free speech. That's okay. Please. Not the free speech that they don't like. Speaking of speech that they don't like, this is absolutely awful. Peter, Peter Magyar is the current prime minister of Hungary.

1:41:52Oh, was it Orban before? Yes. Oh, okay. It was. Is it a new guy like a handpicked person that Orban picked? Because that's also another sign of a dictator. Putin does it. I don't know, but now I want chicken pop or cash. That's what spreads all to. No, no. It'll either one or one. Do you want in a landslide, kind of like Maduro would? Is that I need to do some investigation before I keep you out? All right. Quick one. What do we got? Quick one. Speaking of speech that people don't like and then it, you know, allows them to be the perpetrator and pretend like they're the victim. But they're really just ass hats. Lefty's vandalized turning point headquarters over the weekend and sprayed red paint on Charlie Kirk statue. They also continued down the road next to it. Have you been to the turning point headquarters? No. So it's like South Phoenix. I've been there. It's interesting. It's a very populated area. Obviously it has a ton of security. I was just there this spring, visiting with friends. And they have this, they have this impromptu memorial with the sign that people would come. People come and take pictures and cry and pray and leave flowers and stuff.

1:42:53It was like a memorial for Charlie and they just recently added the statue of him. And that's, I think it's taken from, you know, the day that he died when he was waving to the crowd when he got to the university there in Utah. And somebody put the frowny face on it because that's super mature and dumped red paint on it. But they also defaced signs nearby that talked about prayer and Jesus and wrote like Satan and some of the little messages on there. They're just getting back to the theme. They just went the opposite of whatever it is normal people want. That's all. They're not really into Satan. They're not really into whatever it is they're saying. They're just fucking angry and they have it defiance disorder and they're into the opposite of whatever is normal and whatever you would like. Like normal people don't go around in the middle of the night and write Satan over Jesus's name. But they don't believe in Satan or Jesus. They just, they believe in the opposite of whatever. Dr. John Wayne would have wanted. They want the opposite. All right. This Sunday, Pete the Jordan family class of cars.

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