Baby Mama Trauma: Tuesday, March 17th, 2026

0:00Good morning, girlies, it's the Tollos. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hoes. It's your favorite show, the fast-five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy. Great question. Tuesday. Tuesday. Actually, it's a Toos dairy. Because you're lactating? And I'm wearing dairy boy. No. Wait, why is it a Toot? Dairy. Dairy, like milk. Yeah. Are you... Oh, you brought me breast milk this morning? Because I brought you breast milk this morning. In a breast milk. In a breast milk to exchange. A back alley breast milk exchange. It was extremely shoday what went on in the back alley here. Ben drove up in like a unmarked vehicle. Jackie pulled out a C.A.T. branded lunch box full of breast milk

1:03because there's a little virus running through our family and Jackie's producing antibodies. So the dairy farm. Yes. Today's Thursday. It is Tuesday. In that breast milk, I've related to antibodies that I've produced from fresh last night for Groven. We're looking forward to the antibodies joining us in our home. Yeah. Breast milk is really amazing. I feel like I never... As I get older and like have more babies, I appreciate more like the science behind it. It's not even science, it's magic. It's magic. It's God. Yeah. But God is science, if you believe like I do, if you're a believer. You can show them. And I've always known it's amazing, you know, but like I just learned more and more about it like every single day. And it's like as long as I confront the germ before Max does, that he doesn't confront the germ with a person that I'm not confronting which wouldn't happen. You were always confronting germs. Always confronting the germ. Then I will produce the antibodies and protect him before he has to confront that germ. Like that's amazing. It's just... I mean, don't get me start on the architects, but... I actually... I will not get you start on the architect.

2:03She should write a song about breast milk. Well, she's just going to the journey first. She does. There are a lot of artists who I need to breastfeed. No, I don't need to breastfeed them. Sorry, I need them to start breastfeeding so that they can write music about the magic of it. Oh, the magic of breastfeeding. Like where's Gabby Barrett? Honestly, it's on her. She's... Yeah, she's sort of like carrying... holding up women and mothers in music. Now, I'd just like to address some of like the obvious speculation about what's going on here today. That you're hungover. People think I'm hungover. I'm sure, or ready to deliver some harsh truths. Now, I am, of course, ready to deliver harsh truths. But that's not why I'm wearing my three-blind mice sunglasses. Today, actually, these are jackies. What brand are they? I think they're Botega. Okay, Botega. Yeah, Botega. I think casual slay on a Tuesdayari. I have a migraine. Like an actual... Not a headache. What? Not a headache. A migraine. And under these bright lights, big cities, big stars, I just... I needed to protect myself and my family. Yeah, I've been there. I know that. I don't know if I've ever actually done the toes with like a full-blown migraine. Oh.

3:03It has really just been creeping up on me all morning since I woke up. Yeah, that... It's the worst. I'm sorry. That's why... We're in our home studio. It's like I've asked if I could like do the show without like my bright lights on. Yeah, right. And like you said, no. Well, you could have just worn sunglasses. Look at me, I'm doing it. Yeah, I guess I could have worn. Yeah, I... It's actually like I have to do it with the lights on because I don't let you. You know? You know, like if we were... Here, I don't know what it would look like without our lights on. But like if we were in our home studios, like I would... We're sitting in our door lights off. We're sitting in our door lights off. It's a huge light sitting right on time for us. That can't be good. I don't know if workers comp... We're talking about the light and it's like making it worse, you know? Okay, why don't you close your eyes for a couple minutes while you talk? Okay, I feel like that's actually hard. It is. It feels like a game. A lot of secret lives in Mormon wives last night and then they were also like a bunch of news. Story is coming out. So we are going to talk about it today. Lead story is Salamu News and Recap. And I guess I am. So I'm up to... I want to say the middle of episode seven. If you haven't watched yet, there aren't going to be a lot of spoilers. We were just saying before, this is like a show you can't really spoil because it's all happened publicly already.

4:04Yeah, so we just get to see the when and the why. And who will wear why how? Yeah. But there's not really spoilers in terms of events or things that happen. Just conversations. Lots of conversations. We're always conversing. Oh, you know who was on the episode I just watched. Your boyfriend Harry Chauzy. No, wait for my son Harry. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Your brother Alex Warren. My son Harry Chauzy was on Salamu. We need to make a family trade. We'll talk about all of them James. So we get children like Harry Chauzy Alex Warren. Who else Charlie Puth. Hey, look at him like a son. Oh, really? Somebody I'd like to thank the person who commented this reminding me. Obviously, I've been talking a lot about our future project called namesake, which is a podcast where we only interview people whose names we share. And then we decided to like, as of yesterday, expand a little bit. And like we could interview people like named Ben or people named Trout, you know? Unfortunately, that means we might have to interview Ben Platt one day. So we can't, we have to go back to the original plot where it was just people

5:04named Ruben Harry Max Charlie. Claudia Jackie. Okay. Benzac. No, no, not Benzac. No, not Benzac. No, because I'm Ben Platt. No, but this doesn't mean we have to have on Ben Platt. Like we can be discerning. We don't have to have on every Ben who walks through the door. It's still up to us. Besides for Ben's offer, like who's your favorite Ben? You weren't expecting such a tough question from a girl whose eyes are closed, are you? I was. And my eyes are still. The only person who comes to mind right now would be Ben Sinboon. Not the same. I said Ben. Just Ben. Benjamin. Ben Affleck. Ben Higgins. Oh, Ben Affleck. No. Ben Higgins. I'll go Ben Higgins. He's muted. I'll go Ben Higgins. Besides your husband, who's your favorite Ben? I was talking about famous people. It's a question is open to interpretation. I'm going to go fit. I'm going to go select. There's not a lot. Benjamin Button. That's my favorite movie that I never saw.

6:05You know who I love. That's my favorite movie to quote that I never saw. Benjamin Moore. Ooh, that's a good one. Makes really good paints. That is a good one. Yeah. I've got my eye on a shade of paint called mayonnaise. Has anyone used that? My husband, if he decorated this house, it would be all amazing. I'm painting something. I'm looking for like a nice creamy color. And they're all white dove chandeliers. And the one I have in my heart. You know, decorators love white dove Benjamin Moore. I know. But the one I have in my heart said on his mayonnaise. Has anybody used mayonnaise by Benjamin Moore? I meant to pose into my stories, but I thought it would be too random. But because it just came up organically in his conversation, let me know. I don't know if you can paint your house mayonnaise or whatever you're painting. It is so disgusting. Like, and if you run the risk of someone coming over and being like, I love this color, what color is it? And you have to say mayonnaise, right? I can't decide if it being called mayonnaise is like drawing me too. Because it's like, I want to like do something crazy. Or if it's like, I like it so much, I despite the fact that it's called mayonnaise. I must love it then. Well, I do often think about, more so with nail colors, the person who's job, but it's like keep coming up with names

7:06for these colors. So I have a little bit of sympathy that like they may be ran out of names for all these different variations of white. And mayonnaise, it's quite, it's very direct. Like, but if you think about like the creamy color that I want, may it feels like a little bit of like a yellow base, actually? I like a little yellow. There's always going to be a base of something. So I prefer it to be yellow. A little gray. Yeah. Blue. Like a creamy, I guess if you took the shade all the way up, you would hit the yellow sphere. Don't you find that like colors and like color theory is so crazy? You want to hear the craziest thing I ever heard about colors? I know what you're going to say. And I heard it too. And I actually like wish I didn't. What are you going to say? I'll say what I'll say. Yeah, yeah. Like, if I showed you a color. Yeah, well, I'm going to, yeah, I'm not the same. If I showed you a color, how would you describe? Oh. What you're seeing. Mm-hmm. Like, so how do we know what we're seeing is the same? Oh, that's not what I was going to say. Okay, so we both agree that this is pink, right? Yeah. How am I to be sure that like what I'm seeing is what you're seeing?

8:07You can be seeing like yellow as far as I know. That is true. What I was saying, it's like, if I showed you a brand new color. Like, how do you describe a color without using other colors? Right. Or you can like reference it to the sky. I guess you get to the sky. No, but what if what you think is blue is what I think is gray, you know? Yeah. We are saying two different things. We are. But that's what I mean. We're doing a color analysis soon. We are doing like a full in studio color analysis. She said that we shouldn't want to make up. And I know you don't want to do that. But like, I'm going full Monty. I'm going to do that. Okay. I won't wear makeup. I thought for sure. We were always like without makeup on vlogs and stuff. I guess. It'll be weird to be like in the lights without makeup. Like, you really see. She was like, if you must wear makeup like a little chapstick in mascara. I'm like, excuse me. I think you mean like a full beat. That's me wearing a little bit of makeup. I'm cracking up. No, but I'm like, we're doing this. Yeah. We want to do it for so long. We have the specialist coming. Like, I want my true colors. I want my true colors. Are beautiful. Wow. Wow.

9:07Like a rainbow. I actually saw a video speaking up of somebody doing a color analysis on all the secret lives of Mormon wives in their ugly blue dresses from the finale, which I mean from the intro theme song, which you sufficiently ever in for me. And somebody, you were like saying how the dress is like turned from beige to blue when they're wearing a, and you're right. The dresses are terrible. It's like two separate interests. Yeah. Yeah. I saw somebody do a color analysis on what shade of blue each of them should be wearing instead. Like, you know, Macy should have gone, whatever. And it was quite interesting. And I really do see the difference. Yeah. I'm very excited because there are colors that I like to think are my colors just because I enjoy wearing them. Like, of course, pink comes to mind, but I do think I look amazing in pink. And there are colors that I know that she's going to tell me like jewel tones. Yeah. I don't want to wear jewel tones. I don't want to wear jewel tones. I don't want to be wearing emerald all the time. Yeah. I would prefer a mint green. But no mint green is like probably really not your color. Right. I wonder what she's going to say. But I love pastels. If she tells me pastels aren't my color, like, I'm seriously going to give her the boot. I don't know. Like, today, maybe it's because I'm wearing glasses. I feel like jewel tones are everyone's color.

10:07I don't know. You're looking kind of like, and a creamy. What does she just think about creamy mayonnaise? You're definitely like a difficult person to an analyze color wise because you have like red hair. But I do know that red and orange are not my colors. Well, she comes. Of course. Actually, when I was like in my shower blossom, I really enjoyed red. That was short lived and it was just a moment in time. It's not my color. I'm so curious. But she's going to say I'm excited about that. That's on Friday. That's on Friday. We're also getting our birth charts red. We decided to bring in like professionals to the Patreon. I'm actually really excited about it. I don't like you really believe fully in the whole birth chart thing. But I'm excited. I'm open. I'm definitely open. Especially like we have children like it's like, oh, does, do I need to be thinking about that? A saturn rising? Yeah. Like, you're such a saturn rising, Leo Moon. You think so? Mm-hmm. What kind of vibe do you get for me? Water sign. Thanks. Do you think she'll say your water sign if she does it? I mean, if she's good at her job. Yeah, if she does it, like, we'll all know. Yeah, I feel like it's broad. It's too me. I'm a little programming announcement.

11:07Due to the migraine and my inability, like, really redefined print off the iPad, dear toisters has been moved till tomorrow. But I think it's fine because there's a lot of stories today. I have to whittle them down during the ad break and Salamu recap. Salamu's story, like, there's just a lot going on today. Yeah, I do love, like, the errors. I feel like it happens twice a year, because ever since Secret Lives came out and they're just churning out lots of seasons, like, when we're in the Secret Lives, like, weak. Do you know what I mean? Yes. Like, when the episodes come out, and I love that they always release them all in batches. Everybody's watching it for a week, and then there's stories coming out and people going on podcasts. It's such a fun time to be a toast podcast toast. It is, and I just remembered that that was my post-partum show, which doesn't even feel like that long ago. Like, that's how quickly they're working. But I guess it's been, like, four months max season and four months. It was my post-partum show, too, the previous season. And that's why I like it so much. And then four months. I feel like very endeared to it for that reason. It's been nine months in, four months out. Nine and a half, actually. Nine and a half. And Max, he's, like, four amazing. When my nipples were, like, seriously bleeding, cracking, screaming, crying, throwing up, and, like, you just need to distract yourself so that the baby could eat.

12:09Secret lives more and more, and why is we there for me? And such a deep and meaningful way. Yeah. Yeah, I love them. I, girls, who's your favorite? Oh, that's a great question. So I am very impartial to Jessie because I met her and she came on the toast and she was incredible. And she's just, like, a lifelong toaster supporter buys our merch. But usually, like, I have to really just judge the art. Like, a lot of people I've heard watched, not from Secret Lives, but just in general, and really doesn't inform how I see them on the show. Like, I'm just, but, like, she gave an amazing performance on the toast. She was so sweet. Everything about her, like, I was just dazzled. Dazzled. And I thought she was an amazing woman. And I like her on the show, too. I think she has, like, pretty good judgment. So I am impartial to Jessie. Then it used to be Taylor Frankie. Of course, this is not her season. And just, um, it's just a rollercoaster. You know, in the beginning, I wasn't, like, a huge GFP fan because I was just, like, not my type of person. Like, someone who just operates in chaos all the time. Like, that's literally the opposite of me. I agree. But then, like, I started to just feel really, like, badly and, like, soft towards her.

13:10Um, and that grace period has ended. Yeah. Uh, but we'll, we'll get into the stories. And it's not even just because of last night, but you can only, like, really do that for so long. Yeah. Especially when, like, you're a woman with agency, you have children. Like, it's on you to be mature and better and, like, want more for your life and your family. I am loving Whitney. Of course. Me too. And it's, that's what, what's so funny about the show and why it's so good? It's so dynamic. It's always changing. I don't have a clear favorite at all. Even some say that's, I, like, really hate people. And then the next season, I, like, with Whitney, we all hated Whitney so much. And now she's, like, literally America sweetheart. Even with Michaela, like, watching, like, the second season or whatever it was, like, she was hardcore the villain, like, being so nasty to Whitney for really, like, give it up for no reason, like, just, like, loving hating her. Even when they flash back to that scene of demeaning, like, if Whitney doesn't walk into the event right now, we're all unfollowing her. And they're all losers. Like, yeah, that scene was so embarrassing. I remember that. And so, like, Michaela's had some really low moments for me. And then last night, I was watching her.

14:12And there were so many things I could relate to her when she started crying, feeling bad that she wasn't there for Whitney and she just had her baby. And because she was, like, with her baby and just realizing she was that very human moment. It was, and, like, I felt it to my core. Yeah. And I'm, like, you know what? And also, like, Michaela grudges hard and sometimes necessarily, like, with chase and stuff. And, like, we need that. So she went too hard with Whitney. Didn't agree. I am agreeing today, that's how she's operating this season. So, I think that's what makes the show really strong. It's not like it all hinges on one person. There are aspects of it to me that I really like. Right. She was my favorite for the first. I think a lot of people, that's, you either die of the hero or live long enough to become the villain. I think that's what made her really quick turn around. Yeah. These girls are so young. They got so famous so quickly. Like, it makes sense. No one knows how to handle that. No. And I think, like, net net, it's just been, it's really hard. I think they're all, like, we were touching on Easter day and we'll get into it with this next story. But, like, it's not all it's cracked up to be. We have Huda from Love Island story.

15:12Okay, that is also, like, the craziest thing. Yeah. And it feels good to know, like, I hated Huda from, like, the very beginning. And I never gave her a second chance because I knew there was something, like, deeply sinister about her. And, like, the show sort of rewrote her story and, like, I just never bought it. And it feels good to have been right. You know, it doesn't happen to me all the time. Yeah. Okay, let's get into the stories because we're, like, getting into the stories. So without further ado to ado, here are the fast-fi stories that we're going to get into. The fast-fi stories that we're getting into are brought to you by Weed Watchers. Whether you're curious about affordable GLP1 options or you're looking for smart nutrition guidance and a supportive community, Weed Watchers gives you the tools to stay on track and reach your weight loss goals. Because Spring is not just about starting over, it's about starting fresh and you need support that keeps up. So it's digital on-demand workshops designed for your schedule and to fit your real life. You can hop into a session from your kitchen while you're prepping dinner or listen in during your commute. It's curated experiences for whatever you're going through. So whether that's GLP1 support, managing, menopausal weight gain, they've got it all. They've got expert advice from people who have been there. And people who attend three workshops a month lose more than twice as much weight

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20:16Heck yeah, turdy. Rosie, I'm so Rosie. Oh, okay. I did the wrong one. No, no, that's wrong. Like she said. Guys, who am I? She's just saying stuff now. I need to look at Bantana. Slave, mama. Slave, mama. Rosie, ape down with that, Pesty. Our first story, crazy news update from yesterday. Secret lives of Mormon wives, Taylor and Dakota are undergoing a psych of al after domestic incidents. So yesterday we reported that filming had been paused because there was an incident between Taylor and Dakota. Honestly, I don't know why I didn't take it like more seriously to realize that like if filming was paused, like it was big. It was really big. But production has been put on ice after allegations of child and spousal abuse. And we've learned it's gotten so crazy that Taylor and Dakota have been ordered to get psych evaluations. So it's an article clarifying that actually just Taylor's required to get the psych of that. There's a lot of like things flying. So there is sources with direct knowledge. Chelsea MZ Dakota has called the Utah division of child and family services more than a few times.

21:17A legend Taylor has been physically abusive to their son ever who turns to this week. Sources say Taylor denies the allegation and Dakota has become frustrated that no action has been taken. Things came to a head last month when Taylor and Dakota were driving in his car and gotten a heated argument. We're told a drink was spilled on the seat and on Dakota and he became enraged. Sources connected to Taylor say he got physical with her. TMZ has told Dakota called the police and said Taylor was the one who got physical. Taylor sources say that Dakota went MIA for nearly three weeks after the incident and that's why production stopped. He has an important part in the show and producers wanted to wait until he was surfaced. Sources connected to the show tell a different story that cast members refused to continue filming despite producers wanting to keep filming because of the child and spousal abuse. Obviously separate from the car incident since DCFS has received number numerous calls from Dakota alleging abuse. There is currently an open investigation and TMZ has learned that both Taylor and Dakota were ordered by DCFS to undergo a psych evaluation. The psych of out has not been performed.

22:18Sources say production is about to resume. It's unclear what role Dakota will have moving forward. There were also allegations that she was physical with Dakota choking him with a necklace. And then he then called the police and she convinced him to change his story and say that he was fine. And then a few days later she scratched his face and a friend saw the damage and then police were called again. There's so many elements of this to discuss. One, how did all of this happen without anyone knowing and then literally he was in a lay with her at the Oscars because she was at the Oscars and then the next morning we're reporting that something happened. So I don't think this has anything to do with the Oscars. I think this has been ongoing for a month. And we're just finding out about it. Some of this sounds like it's what happened and there's a lot of conflicting stories. So I think that either they stopped filming because no one was filming with them until this was settled. Maybe at the whole cast knew this. This was going on for the last month and they've been trying to sort it out and they've been filming and now production has been paused. And definitely maybe because of the investigation. But the allegations are that there was physical abuse

23:20in the house between Taylor and Dakota. Maybe both of these maybe one way and that abuse of ever. Yeah, so I just want to say like personally I'm out now. Like this is not finding I think these people are like disgusting trash and I don't like think it's funny or entertaining and I think they should like seriously both be fired from the show. And if you're like watching the season, I don't think either one of them is the bill and I think that they're both abusive. I think like two things can be true. And if you're watching the show now she's like so on a spiral. Like she has this disagreement with her mom. No, no, so she sleeps with Dakota and then she kind of has to tell her mom. The one in LA. In LA and she comes back and like has to tell her mom. And it is like the craziest. Her mom is like awful. It is the craziest conversation. Just Taylor's like so nuts. She's like screaming so disrespectful on her mom. And it's just like I feel like emblematic of the fact that like she's clearly unwell at this point. And that's why I'm like more inclined to think that like, especially because this is not their first domestic violence like police call. There was one like two seasons ago and that was Taylor also being the physical one. So like I think that he's really toxic in a lot of ways.

24:20I never thought or felt like he was physically abusive. Just like really narcissistic toxic loser. Like, loser. Peter. Peter can't have talked to girls. And like her thing was the physical abuse. And like I don't know now that like their allegations being made over the kid, like I personally like will not be getting involved in this sort of thing. I don't know how this makes any like what does this mean for the bachelor because the crazy thing is that like she came and filmed the bachelor. And now we know she's hanging out with Dakota. So it's like you slept with him before. And you're so this is not a key. This is not a person. A screenshot from reality Steve that Dakota's roommate shared with him a night where Taylor called Dakota 150 times in 90 minutes. And she's supposed, and this is post bachelor. She's supposed to have another man. She obviously probably does not have another man at the moment. Maybe that's why she's going back to Dakota. But yeah, this makes the whole season of the batch right now. And void not only because she's like back with the role and void but because like she's now being accused of abuse of her partner and child abuse.

25:22And I just want to say like I honestly I'm in disbelief. Like I actually cannot imagine that that's what happened. And these are all rumors. And I pray that that part's not true. And I pray that that's just like someone slinging mud at her because if that's true, that's the most disgusting thing you can do. So I think I'll wait like till there's more information. But I think there was child abuse allegations but also the fact that like the choking happened with ever in the room like when she was abused, her and Dakota were violent and she's abusive that it was the child was in the room. And by the way, this is all alleged so we don't know what's what but this is what's being reported. And I will say from watching the show and I was texting you this last night, there's so many times what Taylor walks into her parent's house and ever is there. Like I don't know if she like spent the night there. He spent the night there. And I remember thinking like how odd that was but honestly like thank God. Because I don't like her parents. I think they're so mean. Meaning general mean to her. To her. And there's just been like a lot of instances

26:22where like her stepdad, like say it's crazy things and then her mom's like the worst. But it's better than what's going on at her house. Yeah. I'm so like over this. And so when I was watching the episodes last night, I watched like episode five, six and seven and they were very Taylor heavy and like she's just so manic. She's going with her genealogist to go find her half siblings opening the wound of like her birth father who she met once. And it's a lot of like random plot lines for Taylor that like I personally don't care about and second of all she's acting so fucking crazy. And then I also had seen the news and I was just like I have actually like written her off. So it's so Taylor heavy. When actually there's so many other interesting things happening in the show where I feel like mom talk is kind of becoming like this. It's almost like a burden for some of the women. And I get what they're saying. Like the beauty of mom talking like one of the benefits of being in mom talk is like you get a book deal or you get a brand deal, you know that all the women are going to show up for you making it a bigger deal and you have to go to other people so that they come to yours. Macy has this book event and it's actually really interesting.

27:24Macy has this book event and she asked Jesse to like moderate the conversation. Jesse said yes, they ended up having to move the book event one day and it was that because of the sales thing I saw the conversation with their process. Yes, yeah, they moved it to a different place and a different place and they pushed it back one day. Okay. And Jesse was like well I can't do that. I agreed to do an unwell event. And all the girls are like that's really lame if you like to choose this unwell event over our book event. Like you know mom talk you have to be here for mom talk mom talk mom talk and Jesse was like you know what? I would never want to hear your feelings. I'll say no to the event and like you're right. So she goes and it was like okay, they strong armed Jesse into going even though like all the girls are always taking opportunities to further their own careers. They all support that too. I imagine the unwell event was paid. Yeah. And the Macy event was not paid. So then for the Macy event, Jen and Whitney, we're going to fly in for it and Whitney has been flying back and forth shit to Utah for an event. Yeah. She's sobbing with Connor like a couple of days before. She just feels so overwhelmed. She feels like she's really not being present with Billy and the kids and this is just her dream.

28:25And like she's just feeling so torn and Jen had a similar conversation with Zach about, you know, he was complaining about how she's not being a good wife. It's like not the time. Like seriously not the time shut up. And so she's like I know that if I go to this event, like I have to fly back to Utah, come back for her so it's like it's just going to break me. But I don't know how to prioritize myself. And Connor really encourages her to be like, you don't have to go. Like you don't have to go, you don't have to go. So she doesn't go. And then Jen gets sick and Jen also doesn't go. So it's like all the girls who aren't being tapped for Nancy with the stars sitting at Macy's book event, just sort of being like you have to be here for mom talk. Like if mom talk doesn't and then mom talk doesn't. And it's like, well yes, but they're on dancing with the stars. I feel like that's a valid excuse. I agree. When you're all in Utah, like bitch you got to go, you know? There's literally no. It's a playlist sitting there being like, you know, like I would love to go on call her daddy one day, but like you know what, I would still go to Macy's. And it's like, no you wouldn't. Like it's easy for you to say that because the idea of you being on call her daddy is like actually never going to happen. Jessie was saying like I'm really hoping to line up an interview on call her daddy in the fall when the show premier is like, she's just being very honest about her. I actually respected that.

29:27And Layla was like, you know, maybe like if I got in my call her daddy, like I would still, like my time would come again, like you know? And it's like, it's very easy for you to say because there's no invitation coming. Yeah, there might be, but still like you got to make moves and I understand that that's really tough. Also coming like this ball and chained thing where it's like all the girls are kind of, they haven't been bitter this entire time. But then Layla was like, you know, I post every week for Jen and Whitney's voting and they're not here. Like Layla was really taking up and Michaela too. And I just thought it was really loseery. They just looked bitter. And no, it's very like unsympathetic. Like you know, they also have little babies. Yeah. So it's a flight for them. It's not a flight for you. There's a difference between having, you know, a baby, and first of all for Jen, a newborn baby for Whitney, her baby's probably one years old. Like there's a difference between leaving a baby versus like a toddler and flying. And for them not to like have any sort of graces, actually surprising. I know. I think the whole, like you have to show up for a mom talk, that's actually a very good philosophy. I think that's why mom talk is so successful

30:27and they all get these deals. But of course everybody living in LA having to compete on this highly competitive, very time consuming show, you do get a pass, no? I would think so. Whitney's scarred because she'd go to baby mama, right? And they keep bringing it up. It's like, and she was like literally shaking. She was like, but baby mama, you know, and it's like, this is not baby. And she should have gone to baby mama to support her best friend to then down the street. And she only didn't because she was like beating with other girls and she was being a coward. This is not that. No, but she has baby mama trauma. And they just keep bringing it up. And the girls are bringing it up. And Connor is like, Connor is the voice of reason. I was so bored on the episodes last night. I am tuning in for one thing and one thing only. I have got to know what the fuck happened between Jen and Whitney on dancing with the stars. They keep teasing, they're both doing glam having this explosive fight. We're waiting, he's like, I haven't seen it yet. When he's like, you don't get to co-op to having a dream, like you're not the only one who wants this and storms out. I need to see it. Like I'm literally only tuning in for that because five, six and seven, the genealogist

31:28taken a trip to go meet your half siblings, like bored to tears. Yeah, I guess Taylor has to sort of resolve her daddy issues before she starts the batch. But now knowing what we know. No, not really. No, it's all moved, but I guess like, she slept with Dakota the next day. They run into Jesse Palmer. I think all the girls were like. That was hilarious. Not understanding. She's acting like it's not a big deal that she slept with Dakota, but it is a big deal. Yeah, I think she also looks at the bachelor, I think. It's just like a gig. Not a journey to find herself. Yeah. Like she's a reality star, a professional influencer. And like this is just her next job. Yeah, and so like the fake dating with the dating coaches on the show, like, please spare me. Yeah, no, it comes from within. And I, I'm seeing more of like what you were saying about how Miranda would have been a good tap. I just wouldn't have been as busy. I don't know if anyone would have watched, but do you think that overwhelmingly this like Taylor Dakota drama will end up being good for the bachelor or bad? Cause it's like everyone is talking about the lead and her show starts to be really bad. Yeah, I agree. I think that they are in crisis mode right now.

32:28Yeah, maybe it, um, maybe it would be good for like the first episode numbers, but when you hit like child abuse allegations, like there's nothing good. There's not, it's not busy. It's not really interesting. Like that's a hard line that people draw and we're all waiting to hear more. But like if any of that is true, like I'm not watching. I was so excited. I know, I know. And she's still like with toxic Dakota. Like I'm going to give it a couple days to hear more. Just because none of this is verified, but and if you're Taylor and like maybe you didn't do those things and now the worst is being said about you, like, and if it's not true, that would be really awful, but if it is true, or if there's even like a sliver, a sliver, sniff of truth to it, no, I'm out. Agreed. Yeah. So I don't think that I don't think that's good. Mm hmm. I don't think that's good either. Oh, also, it's more slow. Who knows because when Whitney's hinting at leaving secret

33:30lives in more. Yeah. So she admitted that it feels like it's time to leave the show after four seasons. She told the Hollywood reporter, I wouldn't be where I am without slamu, but it feels like time to change challenge myself in other ways and fulfill these dreams and passions that I've been trying to get even before the show. Well, I'm figuring it out in real time. She said adding that her and her husband are figuring it out together. Well, the thing about the truth, like the trajectory of where it's going. Of course, the thing about secret lives that I actually really like is like, people come and go, like they quit and then they come back in the same season. So it feels a little bit like transient. And then it's always like a storyline. Like, are we letting you back into bomb talk? So I do feel like she actually could take a season off fulfill more of her dreams. I don't know, like in terms of like dancing and performing, like beyond Broadway, what else is there? Like she did dancing with a star, she's on Broadway. It's like, what else? I think she did say she wants to be in the movies. That's how I feel. Like maybe I should be dreaming bigger. Like maybe I can't see the vision that she sees, but it's like, what else can you do with like this? Amazing razzmataz dance being that you are.

34:31It shouldn't get other Broadway roles. Perhaps. Do she sing enough to get other more roles? She sings like, she sings good. She does. There actually have been lip singing allegations. So. Oh, that's how good it is. Yeah, but she sings like very good. I guess you could also lip sync. And if you're selling tickets, like people will want to have you on Broadway. Okay. So I guess like a career in Broadway, but like. That's not going to pay the bills. Yeah, I don't know that that's like better than family than five in New York City reality TV star. And so my opinion, and I might be wrong because I just can't see the bigger picture of see what she's dreaming of. And she might have dreams and that she will achieve. But my opinion is that she should stand the show. It is like the bedrock of the success of her career and come in and out and do whatever she wants to note and nothing, but always try to give back to the show. And that does not mean running to Macy's book event in Utah. And the women will have to be understanding. But if she's looking out for number one, I think being a part of the show is a good thing. And I wouldn't detach so quickly from it because I don't know what's next. It's a big wide world.

35:31It's a scary out there. And I don't I don't see the vision, but maybe I just don't have vision. But also the thing with like the nature of this industry is like, you're so hot. And then you're not and it like ebbs and flows. So like, I don't know if I would be mad if she took like a one season break like to finish in this episode that I just watched her Christmas movie gets greenlit and she's like hysterically crying. Like this is her dream. So I do think she has dreams beyond maybe just dancing and performing to being like an actress. I think honestly like doing some like random Christmas movies, it's palcing a person to being on the biggest show on Hulu. I agree. Also, I can't cite one person who has successfully made the jump from reality TV to actual movie star. Not just like get some gigs or whatever. Like everyone who joins reality TV like wants that. Like Vanderpump rules, everyone's living in LA. They want to I cannot think of one who successfully made the jump. And it's not just like bits and bobs of acting things.

36:31Can you tell me any reality stars or influencers? I don't know influencers because like some influencers have like to say influencers would be just good to get context or influencers who have made the successful jump into movie startup. Yeah, there's definitely someone. I feel like I'm cracking up. By the way, do you see like Jake Shane is in hot water for some of you said on the bed and the fair red carpet? Do you say he was talking to Julie Fox and she was just kind of being like artsy and patronizing about like how the film if I had legs I'd kick you yada yada and Jake just it's like, yeah, but wasn't that kid in a way? Like fucking funny and like and now everyone's using it. It's like a statement on journalism. And it's like, well, you hired funny people and they were being funny. Like he wasn't hired to be a journalist. He was hired to be a funny and it was the bad. And he felt after party like it's just supposed to be light. It wasn't like, you know, yeah, it was like funny. That is really funny. How did Julia handle it? She knows. She's like so artsy. She was like, well, okay, Jamie Chung started on the real world San Diego and she did act in the hangover part two and suck. Yeah, she did.

37:32Okay, good one. This doesn't count. But Jennifer Hudson, she was on a competition show. That doesn't matter. But that's these are good and it's showing like the what there is. So continue here is a good one. Aquafina amazing started as a viral internet personality slash rapper and then became a legit film star, right? On Emma Stone. No, they say that she appeared on a VH1 reality casting show. No, no big names who tried but didn't cross over. Oh, actually, like Kim Kardashian. But she's still on her show. She's still on her show and Logan Paul. Chad says like didn't do it successfully. Honestly, Aquafina, that's it. Yeah, okay. Addison Ray, but no, she did one way. Addison Ray, but she did cross over from digital to a traditional world. So we're talking about like actual like, I guess it's easier for the singers because like Alex Warren is another one of like influencer movies. No, no, I'm saying it's easier for the singers. Yes, yes, because like having internet wants to become a pop star.

38:35Having internet background as a singer gives you credibility in the music industry. Like, oh, you have followers who will buy tickets. Having influencer roots in like movie startup, it's just considered. It's like frowned upon. It's like look down on. So I think it will be a really hard trail for her to blaze, not saying that it can't be done. And I think ultimately being on the most popular reality show. It's like, and I also compare her a little bit to like Ariana Maddox just because of the. Yes, yes, yes. And like now Ariana has the love Island hosting, which I think is things have simmered, but things have simmered. And I think if Vanderbump rules was in its heyday, like, it would be a good thing for her to be on it. Yeah, like she left the show, but then the show also ended like, no, I didn't. It was a bad show. No, it literally ended when she walked out and they followed her out of the party and talked shit about her. And that was like the last show. So I think, I don't know, but maybe I'm just thinking too small. Yeah, maybe she must not be taking this question like this decision lightly. It's a big decision. I think she should stay. If she leaves, I think it's okay to leave for a season.

39:35Have all the girls talk about you on and then come back. And then it's like, you know, we're back. Yeah, but I feel like the girls should understand. If she leaves for a season, she should still support the women as much as she can to leave the door open to her coming back. Because if she, like, leaves and doesn't, like, forget the thing. Yeah, forgets like the thing that made her what she was, but she doesn't sound like she's talking that way. She has been stepping out with, like, to me a lot. They were paparazzi together. That's like also a weird outline. Yeah. Also, I think something that we don't think about with other shows, because like, they're all fake friendships. I think there are a lot of real friendships here. Like her and Michaela, like being best, best friends. Like, so I think that there's also like an emotional element to it. Yeah, yeah, we'll see. Our next story, Huda Mustafa, from Love Island, allegedly threatened her boyfriend's young son and her son's mother, her boyfriend's baby mama has now put out an order of protection against herself and her son against her dad because apparently a night in February, like the craziest thing happened. She thought that her man wasn't answering the phone that he was out cheating.

40:36She was sending him like rage text. I'm showing up your baby in my house. I know you're a baby mama's house. Glittering ghost, this woman's house where her son lives is sending pictures up for the stairwell to the boyfriend being like, look, I'm here. Come out. I know you're cheating. Like really fucking crazy behavior. And let her go to this one's house. Yeah. Now, if you watch the season of Love Island, it's really not that surprising. But again, that was her being, you know, behavior. There's a difference between like being toxic with your fellow toxic partner and just like living in a state of toxicity and yes, you know, whatever. And then there's children and then it's like other people who aren't a part of their children and they're children, but like children. Yeah. So if she was just, you know, at her ex's house, like being down the door, that's like classic hood and that's just toxic people doing toxic things. But like when you're endangering a child, yeah, the buck ends there. And so she actually isn't a text message that was like, you know, very classic manipulator being like, I'm going to kill myself. If you don't call me back, I'm going to kill myself. And then she goes, I swear in my daughter's life, I'm going to kill myself. Oh, God, she has a child. Yeah. And I just feel like maybe now is a time like a safe space where I can say, like,

41:37I think it was weird that she went on love Island when she had a kid at home, as like a single parent, 1000%. Now I feel like I can say that. Like I just feel like there were better ways to spend your summer. I agree, especially if you are looking for a partner, there are even better shows where you could find a real, you're not finding it's on love of your life. When people, unless you're Molly May, when people leave their children to go on, like, love is blind. I'm like, you know what? You could be serious, find an amazing connection on love is blind. So do the heart rate challenge in your underwear. You're not serious. You're not seriously looking for a partner. Like that's insane. Yeah. And I just feel like that's something that we're going to like judge, judge you on out of the gate, yeah, love Island with a child. Plus she's a crazy person. There were so much crazy behavior on that show. And you know, she was, she knew she was on camera. So like this was her version of the brain data. Yeah, a crazy, crazy bitch. Like this is not surprising. I like don't stand. I don't follow. Like this is not for me. And she's had a lot of drama since the season.

42:39This is like the biggest news. But there's always, you know, the crazy posts and things that she's and the show just kept her on. Like they were doing all these different votes and challenges. Just to make sure she never went home, rehabilitate her with like her happy ending with Chris at the end. And even he couldn't hold that. I forgot about that. And he didn't even hold it together. Yeah, because he obviously I would love like, yeah. And they really thought they were like doing something. And who was Chris originally into Shelley member? And then like he chose to put over Shelley. And they were like, and Shelley was, I know. And I was like, I'm bringing him back to the villa for you. Yeah. And then they had like literally two episodes where things were quiet before she was like starting yelling at him in the night for not having sex with her. And the three hour window they got to sleep. That was really crazy. Yeah. She's so crazy. She is. She's really scary. She's scary. Yeah. In the documents, I'm taking my TMZ, the ex, her boyfriend's ex, Lewis's ex, her name is Nicole claims that had a sworn her daughter's life that she was going to kill herself and then meet a bunch of terrifying quote and quote, extremely mentally unstable threats against herself, her daughter and Nicole son before showing up to Nicole's home and breaking into

43:42the building. Oh my God. Like, and the thing is, I think a lot of people would be like, Oh, well, this baby mom is just like trying to get clapped. She is the most private person that you can't even find a picture of her like she wants to know part of this. Yeah. What a nightmare. Like to have a nightmare like ex and your baby daddy like start dating like the most crazy woman on the planet. And then you have to let your kid go hang out with dad like crazy nightmare. Nightmare. Nightmare fuel. Yeah. Nightmare fuel is that what the kids say? Oh, yeah. You don't know that one? No. It's a great. Like, I guess so. Sometimes the kids eat like, well, some people they used to say this stuff of nightmares. Yeah. Now it's nightmare fuel. Now it's a nightmare fuel. Mm-hmm. Okay, Bestie. Say less. Um, are you ready for an next story? I'm not actually. Is it our next story that's brought to you by Squarespace? Yes, it is. We all in one website platform designed to help you stand out and succeed online, whether you're just starting out, scaling your business, giving you, Squarespace gives you everything that you need to claim your domain, showcase your offerings with a professional website, grow your brand, and get paid all in one place. So if you don't have a website or yours is like crusty and old, like, sorry, it is affecting,

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49:49They are treating this story. Like, first thing reported is just because it must have been a slow news day and they had the docs in a wild apartment. So they're like, okay, it's Donna Kelcey. It became the biggest story. The fact that they reported this story. And now they are treating it like the serious story that it is, the serious news that it is. They said, as we reported Donna will replace nine windows total. We don't know the status of the six doors. She plans on replacing. Maybe that's a project for later. Then we said story developing. Okay. I like that they're like getting it on the joke now. 1000%. Because they inadvertently, that's so funny about like online news. It used to be like all the news that's fit to print. Like, obviously this would never make news because it was like limited space on the newspaper. But thanks to the digital age, like you can just report it slay. And so we just found ourselves in a very funny pickle. This is, honestly, this is something that would have ended up on SGN. Some good news. And no, SMN, some mindless news. We should start that. It's posted by Kelly Ripa. And I love that. I love mindlessness. It's crazy that they're like taking pictures of her house and posting them. Yeah. I'm like, waiting. Oh my god.

50:49Hmm. I forgot to push my teeth this morning. That's really weird. Yeah. No, it was like, what is that happen? It was like a crazy morning. I had to rush up. I was making soup for Rue Rousse. What kind of soup? Chicken. I made soup yesterday. And you want to know something that happened in my soup that was an accidental act of beauty. So I put egg noodles in my soup. They're supposed to cook for seven minutes, and then they would be ready to enjoy with your soup. But I got busy and the soup is on the high. They disintegrated into the soup, making it so creamy. It was so, so good. No, no, why yucky? I don't know. They like crazy. I mean, can disintegrate. And instead of having just like clear broth with like chunks of vegetables, and it was like, and stew. I had, and I had a creamy chicken soup, which I usually can't have, because I wouldn't put butter in it or a Parmesan Rind, like they say, to do. I'm going to forget to push my teeth. So it was a non-dairy way of having a creamy chicken soup. I don't know that this has ever happened to me. I'm obsessed with taking care of my teeth. Like, I'm always like, oh right, you didn't explain to me. You made a soup. So you know what? So like, no, no, there was just like a lot going on. Like when Ruby woke up, he, I usually wakes me up, but I was able to like get a few things

51:50done before he woke up. Same thing. Yeah, like, so I got the soup. I put it in a bottle, because he's sick. And then I also, he's on full molded jeans, like I took out his meds, like I was just like being a mom. Yeah. It's my dream. It's a really long time to take the soup, so I was like lying in bed for 20 minutes with him. And by the time I was ready to get up, I was already the second portion of the morning. And normally, I would have already brushed my teeth by then. I understand. Oh my, that's so crazy. It's one of my dreams as a mother to wake up before my children. You know, I feel like that's how you really optimize your day. Yeah. Like how much time do you need? I need to seriously five minutes. To get yourself ready. Oh, no, no, no. Oh, I don't need to. You would like to have five minutes before they get up. Just to like, scroll on my phone, make the coffee brush my teeth, and like, get his stuff ready so that he's not like, wake you up crying me like, where's my bottle bitch? Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, I would like to like do my makeup and I know that there are mothers who wake up and work out. Oh, that I've tried waking up with like doing early morning workouts, even before I had kids. And I'm just too tired and it's not a good workout. It's effective. It's a waste of time. But I saw Chris Jenner was talking about how she's like her key to success is getting

52:51up at 4.30. She feels like she has more hours than a day than other people. And I do feel like I don't have enough hours in the day and I want to like unlock some hours. And I could wake up earlier. Another thing going viral is Chris Jenner at the Vanity Fair. Oh, I got it. I'm talking to Jake Jenner being like, how'd you get this gig? Yeah. And like, she didn't mean it condescending and like, it's like, what are you doing here? Yeah. Anyway, it was just like my daughter's friend. Yeah. And she know, like, it's cool that she knew him. I thought it was good. Oh, I thought it was hysterical. But then I was starting to, and people are like saying, Jake Jenner is miserable like, no, I love it. Maybe he recovered quickly, but like, he's, you know, he slipped a little bit. I would, Jake Jenner want to do that, you know, I feel like she'd be being interviewed. Jake Jenner doesn't have to say yes to everything. I feel like he thinks, oh, Vanity Fair wanted me on the red carpet. How do I say no? You could say no. Like, I feel like net net. It wasn't like the most amazing thing for him if people are going to pick apart everything. Well, of course. And also like, people on his level were actually at the party out, like, he was like, every ounce of thrones. He should be on the other side. He should be interviewing him. I agree. Maybe this cared him. I feel like, yes, sometimes you need to like say, yes to too many things to be like,

53:51you know what? I'm going to start saying no, because I feel like he does everything. He gets every opportunity and he says, yes, because how can you say no? Of course. Big things. But like, you can say no. And you should say no, because not everything, like, needs to be your thing. Did you see actually also like at the after party, Alex Earl left with in a car with Jake Jenner. Well, what a segue. Joe Burrow was spotted leaving an Oscar's party with Alex Earl, Stasi Baby and tape McCray. And Jake Jenner. And Jake Jenner. But he's been left out of the headline. Well, also because he's not in the picture, like he's in the car, but it's like a kind of a tough angle. So he's probably like behind the driver. So he's not your main to the story, which is like Joe Burrow and like these three girls who's going to be with him. Unless, you know, Joe Burrow has the hots for Jake Shane, then we're missing a key part of the story. I don't, I don't feel like that's what's happening, but I appreciate your, you know, looking at it for multiple angles. Otherwise, it's just about him and his trio of hoties, Alex Earl, Stasi Baby and tape McCray. And for me, like, okay, Joe Burrow, like what happened to the girl who was in the house when you got robbed.

54:52But. Like they were together for a long time. They did recently break up. What I like more about this story is Alex Earl, Stasi Baby and tape McCray being friends. Yeah. So I think that like when you're at these fabulous parties, like you go from one place to the other and like you all just share a car because this is such a random crew. I don't think that like any of this, this means anything like I don't know. I'm sorry. Who you share a car with. It's like who you're with for the night. Who you're vibing with. And you don't just like share a car with the hottest quarterback without one of you like having. There's no like connection. Like a friend who knows. I think these girls are like friendly enough to get in a car together. But like at least one of them is the reason why it's Joe Burrow in the car. In the car. Yeah. Now which one? Alex. Alex. Tate is with Jack Hughes and she makes his heart like seriously. I'm going to just. Yeah. He's so mad at it. And I just, I don't know. I don't think it's. It's. Stas. Like also. Stas. His previous girlfriend looks like Alex or like tall, thin. Who's the girlfriend? Livy Dunn. No. Livy Pantoon. Pantan.

55:52Another Olivia. So just give me Grace. Um, Stasi baby can really handle herself. Meaning? Like she runs in a fabulous circle of people. And I feel like she'd be a great girlfriend to a very elite. I profile. You know what I mean? Like she knows how to handle herself. Yeah. She's been running in fabulous circles for a very long time. Yeah. She's like privy to some of probably the biggest secrets of the biggest celebrities. She was dating Jade and Haasler, the Tik Toker for a while. Not for me. She's saving a lot of Tik Tokers. She dates like weird people. Okay. Anytime she's always dating like some teeny-bopper. Yeah. Yeah. Right? Yeah. She's not qualified. Agreed. Remember when she dated Tyler Cameron? Now that was something. It was literally like a week. I don't remember that. It was like, I don't think they even dated. They just like hung up. We're spotted. Yeah. Yeah. Like my favorite ship. Yeah. Yeah. No, still a ship. Who's lovely? We don't ship. No, we don't ship.

56:52We don't. Um, so yeah, I'm good with Alex or Stasi. But you know, is Tom Brady was spotted, alleged, whatever, with another woman. And I like that she like gave my big knife in the back with just another football player. Yeah. Like you're just one of many. And you know at one point, like when Tom Brady was actively in then, I felt this like hot, young thing. Joe Burr. You know, like Tom Brady was worried about him. Yeah. Like, you know, was he gonna be like me? Yeah. I don't think it was Alex Earl. I think it's Tukley Shay. Okay. I think it's Miss Baby. Miss Baby. But then where was Kylie like with her best friend? Like why wasn't she with her best friend? Well, Kylie was with like her man who's like, she's like, married to. I know, but Stasi's like her sister. I don't think that. I think there are some of Kylie's boyfriends who like entertain her sister like friends, even like the whole Jordan Woods living in her house saying, I can see Timothy being like, we're grown and your friends have to live at their own houses. Your friends have to go home. Yeah. Like, Stasi doesn't live with us in Stormy. But Tygo is just happy to be there too. Obviously. I know. And even Travis, I feel like he didn't want to like hang out a lot. So the fact that Kylie had like people to occupy her time. Yeah.

57:53Like I think he was great for more. I agree. I agree. But Timothy wants all of Kylie. Yeah. Like a true partnership. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Mm-hmm. I feel obligated to talk about this. But if I'm being honest, I don't really care. The HR executive at the center of the culprits. I don't care. I do not care. I'm just gonna say this headline. And then let's move on to a story I almost chose. OK, fine. The headline is just that the lady from the Coldplay Kiss Cam went on Oprah to talk about her very close relationship with the CEO. And she's trying to explain that they're like bonded and work. And it was more so a bonding experience than an affair. The most interesting thing about the clip that I saw was I didn't realize Oprah filmed her podcast in front of a live studio audience, which is actually a very cool concept. It is. So do we. Should we? Yeah, right. There are three people in this firm of our audience. Should we? Remember fan Fridays. You think Oprah was inspired by us for sure, right? Not by her years long show where she did it in front of an audience. And probably doesn't know how to do it without an audience. It's like true. Central to the way that she interviews. I like that she does that. She's like taking the form and flipping it on its head.

58:54I love updates to the format. Correct. Fan Fridays coming back. So what's the other story? Lizzo's writing a children's book. Oh, another thing I don't care about. It's called Lil Lizzo meets Sasha B. Fluton. OK, that's funny. Yeah, she said, I want to teach every young person out there that your passion can give you purpose belonging and lead you on a journey to fulfill your wildest dreams. OK, that's actually a good message. Like bring back playing the flute. I love OG hobbies and isn't like row blocks. So if Lizzo's inspiring a young generation to pick up a classical instrument. Yeah, she said, when I was young, I struggled to fit in but playing the flute helped me find my voice. I stop. That's actually cute. I want this book to teach every young person out there that your passion can give you purpose belonging and lead you on a journey to fulfill your wildest dreams. There's a sample page in this article. And first of all, it rhymes. OK, well, I'm sold. And here's how it goes, just on one page. OK. Well, Lizzo and Sasha were flutin' so loud before they knew it, they'd attracted a crowd. Hmm. The whole school was there and they started to jam. The fingers went snap and the drummers went ham. Well, the drummers went bam. And do you mean ham isn't hard as a motherfucker?

59:56No, I guess that is what you mean, but what drums go bam. When someone goes ham, that only gets hard as a motherfucker. Yes, it is an acronym that turned into a word. It's not a real word, right? OK, drummers going ham. I don't like love that. Especially because drummers sound is bam. So you could just sound bam. Yeah. But you know what? I love the rhyme. I'm never going to climb that right. I'm not going to make perfect the enemy of the good. I like a rhyming book, so that's good. I love that. I love to see. Speaking of children's content, do you know what I started? Yes or yes, I finally got it. We did turn on the TV. Mm-hmm. As soon as I turned it into a number of days. David? Oh, you know, it's so funny. Ben was like talking to me about watching that the other day. Jackie put on the soundtrack. That music sounded very good. Yeah, follow the light. My kids saw David with Olivia and her kids and my husband in theaters. But Max and I didn't go. And they loved it so much. Zach said it was amazing. He said it was like, if great a showman in the Bible had a baby. So when we were like, it's his generation's version of the Prince of Egypt. Oh, for sure. So we put it on yesterday. It's so hard to see it. I know, I need to see it.

1:00:57It's amazing. If you guys are looking for like good kids' content, it's about King David. You will when you believe. There's a song called Shalom. It's like Shalom. Shalom. Peace be with you wherever you go. Beautiful. It's really beautiful. It's kind of crazy in hindsight to think of like, the Prince of Egypt was like such a big deal when that movie came out that like Whitney and Mariah did a collab song for it. And it would be so good. Well, I was listening to follow the light. It came out of my integrated Spotify this morning. And then the next Phil Wickham is on the song. I don't know who that is, but then the next song was that song that everybody always sings. I think it's part of Shannon's comedy special. Our god is a isn't on some god he reigns. And that's Phil Wickham. That's so funny. So I guess he's like a big name in the music community in the Christian pop scene. But no, follow the light. And it doesn't matter because this year was the year of K-pop

1:01:58Demon Hunters, but like if we lived in a proper world, like David should have been nominated for an Oscar. And follow like, should have been nominated for a song. But golden should still should have been. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it doesn't really matter. Oh my god. I can't believe I kind of slayed this episode with a migraine, don't you feel? Do you feel like you had to talk more? You know, I did feel at times like I was being allowed to finish my sentence. And I didn't know how. That was just enough energy to interrupt you today. And I was like, hmm. And so we got the glasses. Oh, shall we wrap this up? Like maybe it's kind of a burden to be the one who talks, right? I sort of, I'm just so used to not have finished my sentences. That I don't know how to conclude them. And I find conclusions to sentences to be sort of redundant. So what you're saying is that you need me to keep interrupting. Sometimes I need you to just give me like three more seconds, but then come on in. OK. Shump in the water swarm. That's our show, you guys. And Jackie's going to wrap up because I'm not feeling mine. That is our show. I'm going to wrap up in the only earnest way. I know how. Thank you so much for listening to The Toast. We love you dearly. And we will see you tomorrow.

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