#3532 Next Gen NYC S2E012 Part One: Love ‘Em and Liam

0:00R! Hello, and welcome to Watch For Crappins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today on a very very important crap and say is the one and only Ronnie. Caram. Hi Ronnie How are you? Hello. How you doing, Ben? I am doing great and I'm especially great because for two reasons one next gen the season finale was so good We're about to recap that but number two Our tickets are finally on sale for our in the mix tour in the mix All crap ends is in the mix. We are going back out on tour and it starts sooner than you would think

1:02It starts actually in October Which is basically three weeks away Here is the schedule all ticket links are on our website watch or crap ends dot com The only ticket link that is not there is gonna be Charleston because that's part of a comedy festival And the comedy festival has to put up their links first and then we will put up our link But here is the full tour and Listen for your city. This is like when I was a kid listening for like the delays and snow day cancellations on the radio in the morning But here we go October 3rd Kansas City October 4th Chicago October 17th Minneapolis October 18th Detroit November 5th is Philadelphia November 7th DC November 12th Dallas November 13th Austin November 15th Houston December 8th Nashville December 9th clear water Florida December 10th for a lot of day off Florida January 9th San Francisco January 23rd Salt Lake City

2:03January 24th is Denver January 27th is Charleston That's that comedy festival I just mentioned January 28th is Atlanta February 4th Seattle February 5th Vancouver February 7th Portland February 20th Toronto 21st February 21st Boston And we end the tour Grand Finale style with February 25th the Golden Crappies back in New York City at Town Hall our home away from home We'll at that point we will have turned 15 So come out for a 15 year anniversary Golden Crappies show You know it's gonna be off the hook But really we want to just flag right now that the Kansas City Chicago Minneapolis and Detroit shows those are all in October those are very close So make sure you come and get those tickets because we want to see all of your smiling faces That is the spiel everyone those are tickets watch what crappies dot com okay Yeah come see it also this week in New York. I'm gonna be doing Monday the 14th

3:08I'm sorry. I'm all over the place say Monday the 14th. I'll be doing dinner crews for What are they called? I'm sorry. I'm sick today and my brain is even worse than usual It's city cruises. It's gonna be with Hannah Farrier and Austin from southern charm We're gonna be doing a inner cruise around the city. I'm just gonna interview those guys. It's a great time Stinner to show Tugs so come see us. It's going to be this Monday September 14th you can get tickets over you can get tickets and links Over at Hannah and Austin's Instagram link and buy us. Okay, see you there very soon New York City and everybody for the tour some fun stuff a lot of stuff coming up here I'm getting out of the house and Taking showers Putting on clothes. I know Shaving it's very difficult. Well, um, yeah next gen New York City this is this season finale I loved the season finale. I was also very surprised. I was gagged and guped as they say

4:13and It reminded me of like a John Hughes movie or something like that. What did you think about this finale? Which John Hughes movie I Don't know like all of them. It was it sort of had that feeling of like even though they're they're not in high school I kind of felt like this Group of kids some of them are hooking up and one girls balancing between like the bad boy and the nerd and The rich kid from the chick fried chicken dynasty classic John Hughes, you know and I don't know the way they just all sort of like clustered in together at a bar and just I don't know There was there was something like very heartwarming to be about it to me like normally I think on on a different show. I'd be like Hurry on it is so selfish. I mean look at her. She's got she's I mean she's with Liam and there's supposed to be Exclusive and then she's making out with Charlie and then there's lots of like like she just like all she wants is male attention But this time I'm like, oh, this is just so sweet and romantic I was fully like whatever I fully fell hookliden's anger for what for the editing. I don't care

5:19I you know, I enjoyed it because I I'm judgmental about the stuff you know like when you hear somebody say oh we're exclusive But that doesn't really mean anything except we're not dating other people, but we're exclusive But we're not boyfriend girl for I mean when you're older, you know codes for that which basically means it When he's gonna get cheated on like this isn't yeah It's kind of the below deck thing like let's keep this a secret No, if somebody ever says shit like that. It's not gonna work from either side. Yeah And then Charlie you know that Charlie's just using Ariana You know he is for screen time and of course, you know that Liam's just using her for screen time too It's not like he's coming off a whole lot better in that department and it seems like she doesn't really care about either one of them Like she's just but using them to kind of maybe get back at Hudson or keep Hudson on his toes Or maybe it just is a good old fashioned break because she's been with that guy since she was you know a child so I don't know I didn't really believe in a lot of the relationships going on

6:21But you know you don't have to believe it doesn't always have to be true love and marriage And I'll yeah, so I was enjoying watching it for sure But I'm really glad that we ended the episode with finding out that Charlie is a user piece of shit. Yes And she knew because that would have made me crazy if they ended it on this like lovey-dovey Oh, she's just with good old Charlie now. Let's see how it works out. I Know I thought like that I did enjoy that too as much as I enjoy enjoyed their kiss It's not even that I'm like I'm not like quote-unquote shipping them like I don't care about Ariana and Charlie I just felt like the scene It seemed to mirror so much of those 80s movies that I just was happy I was happy because it took me back to the 80s But I don't actually inherently care about them and I think it's a bad choice on her part and I loved that Like when she found out like oh he is religion to learn me in I was like well, that's what she get That's what she get for a

7:22Being so being so naive about the religion in the first place and also like it's Charlie What did you expect would happen? You dumbass, but then in that moment when they kiss that was happy Then I was also happy when people talk about Jesus and the whole like oh my god He lured me in by saying he was with Jesus what part of the Bible is like Hanging with three people at the same time. I mean the Bible I don't know maybe it's just different parts of the Bible that I was personally traumatized by but I'm like I don't think any I don't think going to someone's house for coke at two in the morning isn't the Bible yeah You know I've got bad news for you people will often use religion to pursue ulterior motives so It's crazy waiting to hear about politics Yeah, you hear So anyway, let's start at the top of the episode It's the holidays everything's happening in the city. It's fun and

8:23Ava is Saying they're still talking about how where we left off last episode, which is that a few of them went to Charlie's place I 2 a.m. To smoke a joint But then Liam didn't go in because he went to walk his walk the dogs So it was like I can't claim to understand what Liam thought was thought process was I mean he must not like to grow that much if you're going to drop her off at some other guy's house Yeah, and you told me you love me last week. I mean why you're not even gonna get to us very on a and Liam's like yeah, you know, I don't know I don't think I made me say good to Charlie's you know, I'm not not going to Charlie's I didn't want to go I'm not gonna go. I don't do shit. I want to do which is I As he lights up a candy cigarette I'm a tough guy Yeah, so then I think it's a little a little baby toy Oscar I don't have to what so think think something that's going around is that people discovered that his mom ran Nickelodeon for a few years and she was an executive over there

9:25And then she actually ran the network which makes so much sense because he really is like a Nickelodeon star Like when they yes, he's like that he's like a kid in a leather jacket. I'm tough. I'm a real man. I mean like you were 12 It keeps getting slimed It's very Nickelodeon And you know she was head of Nickelodeon during some pretty problematic times Don't know if anybody's watching the dance Schneider documentary, but I did I did not watch that but I did work in the water time Nickelodeon well, you know all this stuff that happened at Nickelodeon. There was a lot of a reason that I mean where I worked was I was in the generic I was like in the marketing Area I was an intern for the Nickelodeon brand creative grid and We had that we had a meeting once about how Nickelodeon owns orange which was so fun We just this guy can be like okay everyone one thing about Nickelodeon is we own orange like it is copyright like orange is us

10:26I was like okay and And then I remember they were actually like a word Well, it's a different kind of orange and then There was a great internship. They like it was a sort of internship But they actually wanted their interns to learn and grow and then actually become part of Nickelodeon So I just remember they brought me into a meeting once and they were They're planning out promos for the like then wasn't the kids choice awards and they were gonna have in sync be at the kids choice Wars and they're like what should we do like what about I just always remember this Okay, what about what if we have in sync in a sink? Like we'll build a sink and we'll put in sync in the sink and we'll be like guys It's in sync in a sink and it was like that amazing That's genius and everyone loved it They all wanted to go with it. I just will always remember that and I actually really liked the idea myself But I've always remember in sync in a sink and just like all these corporate types just like losing their minds over it

11:26What a time to be alive? Can I tell you did in sync just say no to that or How they don't they get ever made it past and think it might have passed that that point But there you go there you go everyone. I've just pulled back the curtain at the Nickelodeon brand creative groups Process in the year 2000 Also, how are you gonna see them? I don't know. I wish I was in that meeting So camera would be above the scene if you're gonna make a giant sink for in sync to be and what you just see the top of their heads coming out Like how it gives the sink and then if the sink has an opening in the front Well that let the water out if you ever need to do giant dishes like let's think this through Well, I had I had a little bone to pick within sync at those days because that Nickelodeon that let my office was at 1616 something another this in time square like it was it was several floors above TRL and in sync it came to TRL one day because buy buy buy dropped and I went I had to go down into the lobby to go to the mailroom and in sync it walked into the lobby and a security guard

12:29They were like it's in sync and the security guard literally shoved me into violently into an elevator And I was like sent off to some random floor and I was like This is a Regis I was shot by by in sync. I was one of the people in the meeting for the sync idea in sync and a sync You're about to be in sync in the in the in sync a rater Well, I'll tell you what I've been calling them in stinks Thank you, man. Well great to get that off my chest years later No, and now I've said it and now I'm a little bit or day That's great Well, Ariana is saying that going to their house late night without Liam was no big deal guys They just ordered a pizza and it was like yeah pizza. She's like yeah pizza and Then Ariana makes a sign of the cross. They're like why are you making the sign of the cross and she's like No reason. What did you do? What did you why are you questioning me? What did you do? What did I do? What did you do?

13:35And yeah, I mean Ariana's obviously very religious. I mean how could you not be when Kim Zolsey Icaz your mother She's like a woman of God and teaching godly things to all her children. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap and So Eva yeah, they're doing great over there. Yeah, they're they're killing the way that I remember when she and it was God No, she said the way that she and Kroi are separating is just really beautifully godlike Yeah, super super Christian. I remember when she was first rumor to have lost all of her money And she was going to all the places gambling all of course money away at nickel machines and shit like that and That's when everything started to crumble like Kim went through all of this money gambling and doing all this shit and then Kim came out on Instagram trying to sell Like Bible workshops or she was like, okay, you can be a member. You can be a member now of my Religion, you know Christianity. It's new. It's we're coming out with it

14:38We're gonna do bobble studies and you would like sign up and subscribe to have Kim lead you through Religion I died I died and then I did come back to life. It was actually pretty holy but Wow The boss is these people She's a vessel. She's a vessel for the Holy Spirit. We can't choose our vessels. We just have to accept them Well, yeah, Ariana Ariana is doing a TikTok and Hudson is he texts saying that he's excited to see the dogs because he's coming to town And he's telling and then Hudson's texting Charlie saying he's coming to town And he's like so mad that he got kicked out of the group chat. No, it's tough being Hudson first you blow up your Lambo Then he get kicked out the group chat man What's life really Yeah, what is it and so the producers say to Charlie well you had a fleeing with or you're you're flirting with Ariana But you still friends with Hudson

15:40What's the scoop and he's like yeah, I mean just I mean it's just like so weird, you know so many weird awkward dynamics of my life It's basically like a terbuy or enthusiasm. It's like Larry David in Kirby with you your life is nothing like Larry Kirby Being an annoyed person. Why do annoying people across the world say shit like that? They're like wow, I'm an annoying person that no one's no one likes. It's just like Larry David Larry David is hilarious But also no one like that's not a compliment to be considered Larry David He doesn't do anything right on that show I feel like Charlie's life is more like her beer employment because that's something that he doesn't seem to have ever had so then Charlie's not based time with shy and Just try to say hey, I was a resident that bro and she's like I mean it was good I mean I dropped a bit off and then like I went home and I'm like I mean it's like crazy Like I can see your face on this phone like what this is crazy I've we've always been able to do this like I don't even know what face time is what oh But I think you should ask the aim about what happened last night. I'm not gonna say anything

16:40I mean I don't even know what happened like I live without no I'm crazy. Well what you fuck Avalon's I would you fuck her did you do that and he's like oh well you need to ask a Pretty crazy So over at Ariana's apartment now she's face time with Eva and she's like I'm calling so we can figure out this next chapter party And he has like I'm so excited. Yeah, I know me too. I could really hear it in your voice that your eyes excited as I am So they're gonna throw a party. It's gonna be like Next chapters slash sort of under your party and Ariana's like if you would have told me three months ago That we would be throwing a party together. I probably would have said you're fucking crazy, but now look We're throwing up. Yeah, we're throwing up party together And they're gonna invite Hudson to because he's part of the friend group so we got our I heart media and She is walking down the I heart hallway and she's doing a TikTok. She's like I've got an exciting guest coming on my

17:45Podcast today. Guess who it is? It's Amira Welcome to Casual K off you're an icon. What's it like being an icon? Do you ever get annoyed when the mouse clicks on you? It's like I'm not that kind of icon. It's a different thing. Gia. Oh Casual chaos You get sick of people praying to you to remove this icon So yeah, basically Do you get sick of being my dad's confession? My dad's confession to the police. No, that's icon All right, you're you're ever gonna get anything right here. Yeah What was it like what was it like having the Odyssey shown on you? That's I max Oh my god, I'm gonna call you on you. That's some iPhone. Okay, you know what? Let's just move passes. Let's just get past the intro

18:48They have a nice conversation Gia's asking questions about you know walls have been broken et cetera and Amira is basically saying that her mom her parents are super supportive Her mom has been supportive and they're just been great and she doesn't know You know like she would have been able to live the life that she leads and be so happy if it weren't for her parents, which is really nice I guess I was a boring interview. Hey, what made you you? I love my mom. Okay, FF FF I need some I need I need more gossip for this in this castle chaos which Yeah, speaking of which we now go to candy burrus and Candy is performing and Juliet on Broadway and so Riley goes to see her mom and she's like Honestly, it's a little weird having my mom live here because my mom is on stage in New York for a while But she's always working so it's not like we can hang out all the time That's Riley's insight We

19:49Don't live in the same place so we don't really I don't know Maybe we don't see each other as much as we did when we lived in the same house. It's pretty crazy Candy shows are backstage and the stage they really give her full access to the end Juliet experience and What's that I said and Riley because she's visiting And Juliet and Riley it's a play on words I'm gonna talk about it when I'm on Gs podcast again What was it like doing the play on words with Ronnie? It was all because of my mother. I'll tell you that right now So candy is like wow, you know, I always tell you fear equals failure and now I'm not afraid and so I'm on Broadway I've all become the fear and that's what Hector's do Charlie's just modding. It's like yeah, got it It's an equity best Standing right with standing room Yeah

20:50Places five minutes of places thank you places Sometimes I like to play both parts. Let's go to lipit village We're Liam's eating with his mother SEMA This is my favorite scene. I think listen. I love a mother scene especially when a mom's not just an ask Kissie mom on camera A lot of the moms like oh my god, I'm so glad of you like literally all I do is like think about you and how great you are because I may do and look at you You're doing great and her mom's not really like that. She's like any updates from the festivals Well, yeah, you know the Sundance thing was a fucker. She's like yeah, yeah, I knew that was a really long shot Let's be honest. He's like well. Yeah, I knew it was 50 50. She's like ha ha right It was more like a frog's ass Chance of like being open in the water all right zero Like that She's like yeah, it's probably like one million sweetheart. I love it. I like it I like that she was an executive because she's now like well, I don't have anyone to be an I don't have anyone to boss around

21:52So I'll just boss around my son. So Liam is like yeah Found out my movie Carrera. He didn't get into Sundance too bad I thought it was pretty cool that scene where I hugged a girl and she drove off of the gas station Oh, well Maybe next year tell you right. I see you there golden lion Watch out. I'm coming for you Venice. Yeah, move over. We've over Ellen Berson. I don't care about your tribute because guess what? Carrera is coming to town All right, well, it's a good movie. Okay, but it's not breaking any molds. It's no Blair Witch Okay, it's no eye Carly in movie form trust me. I know art All right, okay, have you count on what kind of discovered herself? No Okay, I did listen that was you ever thought about putting on certain geometric shorts Maybe making yourself look a little bit more yellow Maybe shooting it under the water. I don't know These are things that are floating around my brain to make it a little bit more provocative

22:56Yeah, my mom worked in the entertainment industry. She was an executive. She took control of the network Made it was made it what it was for the first time and you know what my dad was on the production side of things and they give notes I don't always take the notes. Maybe I should take the notes I told her about the plot of my film Carrera and she said make it about twins living in a high rise Make them 12 Just sounded inappropriate, you know, but maybe I should have She was like hey Have you considered having Hoku do the soundtrack and I was like what she goes and what about if it's snowing And all the kids have to stay at home and Chevy Chase is there and I said mom What are you talking about she says? I don't know just having some out of the box thoughts about Carrera And you know what I listened and I did it and I still got rejected from Sundance I want every interior scene in this film to be orange So only way it's gonna work She said what about if you take the entire movie Carrera put it in a sink just build a big sink And the movie takes place in a sink

24:00Then then your main character meets a band an old band And they're saying please give us another chance. We'll do the sink thing We use for bagging out and then your character could say no we give you your fucking chance And you put you push our favorite PA into a wall then you turn on the water you flush them down the sink you turn on the garbage disposal All right, then a shot of the backstreet boys on a backstreet Okay I read that was actually much easier to film. Okay, let's do backstreet boys So anyway, Sima's like okay, well listen honey everything can't be easy right by the way I love the way that this seems a shot so beautifully. They're sitting By the windows of this restaurant it does like a golden glow on them and they're they're shooting it from the outsides We're looking in so it's already very artful and it's just I love the way they shot it and I loved how Sima was also kind of like okay kid We get your father and I gave you a few thousand dollars to shoot your little short film now you got to get some real lessons

25:01Okay, you thought we were you thought we were supporting you we were actually setting you up for failure So you finally knew what failure was okay We were lying when we said when we said one out of two things gets into subdams. It's one out of 50 million Okay, and guess what everything can't be easy. You know, you're charming. You're a good human being But everything that you are you know that that you're really good at has been easy You just have never really grinded at anything I know you're easy with acting. I mean even you know Even meris just told me I was I was lazy with acting. It's like and back you're almost 30. No, what are you gonna do? Look at you Jeez, where's the freshness gone am I right if the food inspector came in here right now He would slap a bee on your head and say not fresh Look honey, we put you in a million different Nickelodeon shows You still haven't popped so it's time to start thinking about that Going from a volunteer firefighter to maybe making it just like paid firefighter

26:02So uh, he's like well, there's part of me that's like well, what was I doing for 25 years? No, I mean and she's like yeah from five on that's when you started worrying about it because I'm sure we're worried about it when you were two I said this boy is lazy and doesn't doesn't really have a spark, you know, but not all of the I don't want to mess with your timeline Okay, I believe in you Being able to grift off of my money till you die. Okay. Are we doing anything else here? Oh, I guess I'm getting the bill, huh? Okay, bring the bill to mommy. This one's not working ever Okay We're celebrating him not getting into sun dance. Okay Well, at least you got a girl who really likes you a lot won't be kissing anyone else. Okay son great talk This has been great. Uh, go ahead pull that rope bus boy He was good-slime. All right, it was good to see us and call me when you've made an effort Here, I got your little orange blimp. It says Nickelodeon on it. Oh, I'm sorry. It says fail-alodian. It's for you So

27:06So now we go to Bond Street and Candy and Riley are getting dinner and she's saying it's a candy saying it's her first time doing a two-show day And then they move into divorce and she's like I didn't even know people were gonna care like this I can't believe it was such a big deal and then we see people on social media being like oh my god Todd and Candy divorcing what am I gonna do with my life This is the most shocking thing that's ever happened to me And did you watch the show or yeah, blood um, did you see that Todd released a trailer for his Documentary about what it's like to go through divorce. Did you see this trailer? Oh, is that a documentary? I saw the ebrizly something in his a Todd Tucker film He's like guys So difficult going through divorce and I know it's not just me Which is why I made a Todd Tucker film about it divorcing with candy it's like I think it's trying to sort of like strike that tone of like breaking bonnetoo cheer something like that

28:10Like one of those like real serious like this is what I'm going through. I'm Todd this what I'm going to so he like talks with Ralph and he talks with Dennis and he talks with um There's someone else I forget who he talked the other person is that he talks to but like All the real luminaries of that hang around at land to the cast and um It's like the documentary is him just like pondering things. It's like is this what it is or I give so much You know, it's obviously very flattering to him. I was blindsided. I didn't know this was gonna happen But it's also so schlocky and it's so bad and it's so Like student filmy like it's it's it sort of reminds me of something someone would make just throw up on YouTube And I say this is someone who makes things and throws them up on YouTube and um It just is so mortifying and I'm like Todd you were such a hack and you were married to someone who is a legit Successful creator who knows like what she's doing and that you didn't take any lessons from her on how to like be better or and to grow your craft

29:12And you just took her money and now you've made the stupid ass documentary to make us feel bad for you Sir you've lived a very privileged life for 10 years and you should enjoy what you had and now go back to Run in cameras Um, it would be terrible if any of us thought that you were capitalizing up in your marriage to candy or to serve for the money It's crazy I hate for people to think that about you Todd. It's like the first second you get and you're like, oh, I'm gonna make it I'm gonna try and make some money off of this loser By fellow sympathetic souls Ralph Pippman and Dennis um Yeah, it's a real People in the comment been round up you've got there People in the comments were like where's Peter Thomas once you round out the all sarcasm Where's the problem? Yes, seriously So candy's like what they think of me and what they think about this situation is not my business

30:13We're trying to figure out the best way for us to not to not be together but still come together So she says they're still gonna do things as a family for like Christmas Eve and Todd's invited and they're still a family And we're still connected so that's what we can all do But I feel like after this documentary comes out. I'm not sure that Not sure that this will still be the case Yeah, Riley is saying she might move back to Atlanta to be closer to the family because she didn't even know this stuff was happening And she wouldn't know if she was there But even if you were there and and New about it is still gonna happen You know, so she talks about being a child of divorce and how much it sucks and Candy asked her to try out some Korean on her which Riley actually knows she can do it. Yeah, she can try it Just like well. I mean, I don't know Korean. So I don't know how good it was but I was like wow and nothing language It's like oh my god She's really fluent um, she says like one sentence we're like wow Yeah

31:17So now we go to the apartment and Rowan and Charlie and Eva are making gingerbread houses which is cute Uh, it's weird also that like Charlie is there and that he's making a gingerbread house I'm sure his like I wish they had like cut to Charlie's dad like up in his panthouse somewhere making the most beautiful Pristine Welsh well well engineered gingerbread house that like it like it like it like It's like a gingerbread side works like four floors Yeah In actual elevator in there. It's like oh look at you and your little tiny gingerbread house Oh You can hardly hear my disappointment of me standing up here on the top floor the 42nd floor. Oh Oh Charlie did the wolf cave in on your gingerbread house yet again. Oh, it's becoming a metaphor for my hopes for you. Okay Hey, do you remember tiny person and tiny gingerbread house when you thought to die in your eyebrows would change your lifestyle

32:19Oh That's what's hilarious My gingerbread house works out to do you work out? No, I don't think so Uh So Charlie's house does look really good, but then it you know it folds like a house of cards like a house of cards So another gossip being about what happened last night and Charlie's like yeah, I mean I taught a shy last night He was like, uh, yeah, I'm coming with Liam Ariana even me and I was just like bro. I'm act on a pop Em act on her She's like no, he didn't it's like no, I swear. I swear he told me before I was like I was like oh Doc like get over here like we'll talk. He's like what he said I'm act on ava like what is this the 70s like who says that He's like, yeah, do you want me to speak on your tea or do you want to speak on your tea? So Someone's be con. No So we kissed Yeah, I say poor row and she's just sitting there like getting all like the frosting like on her hands like making like a little like

33:25wigwam of gingerbread while they're just like talking having a scene I always feel like what rowans like I feel like I'm on this show But no one's really interacting with me like this. I feel like I'm just observing a lot of crazy people around me Broans like nobody's taking this icing right? You know, I yeah, I'm just gonna throw this in my purse It's dinner later. So chicken salad with icing. Yes Yeah So she's like whatever I made out with shy we made out in Charlie's kitchen and that was it It's a big deal. I don't regret a thing and we're like oh, that's good. Why didn't Liam go to your house? Charlie's like, huh, that's a question I know you just dropped everyone off went home and walked Ariana's fucking dogs bro. So it's different. It's different So then we go back to Liam and his mom and seem as like So how is our yana good? I really like her Guess what my fingers are crossed behind my back. Ha ha stupid and you're a completely different stage of your life I mean she's younger than you you know, she's like yeah, no I know I know I got a lot of wisdom in this old noggin which by the way noggin spin off of Nickelodeon one point remember that

34:32Never and so it seems like yeah, I mean, I don't know why you're rolling your eyes though And he's like yeah, just because I know she's younger than me and I understand that I understand being 24 New York City Like you want a good party? You want to like do all these things? I gotta be honest I get scared because I like I went my hot mass leave I trust people like she's 24. How old is he 27 28? He's 30 Is he really 30? Yeah, I think he's turning because that's All his age is Charlie okay, he is now 30. Yes. He is born in 1996 But still like if you're 29 and someone's 24 he's acting like there's like three decades between them like They're real made December real nants We're like Nick us in and uh flin boil It I think it is bigger when you're that age I when I was 23 I dated a 29 year old and I was like this guy is so old It's like yeah, I've got a real sugar daddy here. I was like I hope he's okay. I hope his health is okay

35:35For the length of our relationship And it doesn't start to tear you're rating Well, there's something when you're that young that yeah a few years older does seem a lot older So I was like whoa old man. You okay there watch your step he's like uh Yeah, I can I can walk into the restaurant. Okay. Are you sure? Just want to make sure you're okay there Oh I'm being an octogenarian you guys he's like so old But hopefully he can support us in our children when the time comes Um, that's part so She's like well, what are you afraid of kid? He's like I'm afraid to get hurt again mom I just still might getting hurt and if I am gonna get hurt I really want to be there to remember my feelings about it so I can use it in my next project know what I mean Yeah, man The left when my last time my heart was broken was almost like getting lemon in the face Man, I hope I don't get hurt like that again, especially the next 45 minutes of air 10

36:38So ava is telling Charlie what were you doing while I was making out with shy and he's like Oh, it's talking to Ariana the couch talking to talking to possibly fucking maybe she's pregnant I don't know did I say that I didn't mean to say I was totally kidding but whatever probably fucking Maybe I was like did you guys kiss he's like what no stop what why you want my dick about this what what can we talk about Bitcoin? What is crazy? No what so then Liam's then I tell everybody over and over that I fucked Ariana And now they're all asking me if I fucked Ariana. It's so weird you guys are such weird people Crazy bro So then Liam's like Yeah Ma I know it's not my ex but it reminded me of it this situation and it made me go oh fuck Here we go again right ma because the last one she would go out like you know and I wouldn't hear from her And it's just like PTSD mom PTSD from dating I Carly so mom's like yeah, whatever You know the mom's totally unimpressed but I need this she's like whatever this is not a real relationship

37:39Why are you why are you in a twist about it just have fun go have sex and you like You know your kid Yeah, so If it's still talking to Charlie and she's like do you like Ariana? What do you think of Mary-Annie is like I don't know shut up like stop asking me about it It's crazy also a Hudson's in town now. So that's gonna be fucking fun. She's like why are you hit spread? But you're also flirting with Ariana That is the question So now let's go to Jersey City at G is apartment G is talking to Joe who cares? Let's say what I don't care fucking Joe. Yes. All right. I don't Fuck care about nothing. Well, you got a dog. What is that a dog you are? What will you let your dog sleep with you the stupid dogs at dirty the filthy creatures? You're gonna get a parasite of some shit Yeah dogs live is like poison Anyway, so well I've been going over there, okay? She's like wow Christian's been filming a little bit and it's been funny because he literally reminds me of you Because I'm sure you weren't used to it at first like what no, what I mean I used to do it because of your mother

38:39But otherwise I wouldn't do it, you know, I prefer if I'm gonna say the f word. I'm gonna say it in private, you know So she's like yeah, but there's like obviously downsides which we know about it's like yeah, I mean you pee and You know you pee on your pants and like you know what you watch and you see what you do because they'll just put that out there You know like if you just like go out on a phone in the middle of like some hedges and call your wife to see word Like they'll put that on TV. Isn't that crazy? Yeah Yeah, you happen to be driving down the street with the license sitting yours But you're saying it's yours and a tree comes up and attacks your car And the cops come just what the cameras are gonna get that this fucking ridiculous. So have fun with that Jaya with your fucking poison stalk yeah Being in the public eye I deaf it definitely is a sensitive topic And I mean we're still trying to figure out how to like we're going to proceed going forward, you know Um, and the producers like I've got to spin off Married with 19 children because oh my god like that's not happening

39:40Um, we all know that that will happen sadly We're gonna have this family bloodline for a long time on Bravo Yeah, so Rowan's apartment we see a little puppy on the couch and Ariana and Rowan are doing confessional together And Rowan's like um, we're fostering a new dog my mom is always said she wanted something just like carry red So we're getting my mom A dog is gonna be a very famous person's dog my mom's huge She's like and and she's like I know but like my mom I'm like mom you're not demy more you just have the same here Okay, she's also like definitely literature dogs. It's like this alive up of dogs There's something like that and then like they cut to Joe. She does be like watch out for this alive of dogs It's a very anti-dog whole live episode Yeah, what's what's up dogs are really getting it in this episode So then Rowan is on a base time with her dad Chris and She's like dad I got a job as a booking producer. So it's like journalism basically But there's like a world I could be an entertainment journalist, but you know

40:43This way I could be like a real news person and they could be like little breaking news get the PA You know it could happen that he's like yeah, I'm actually working over here. Okay I can I did you finish off the icing from that weird party you went to Still on your face Cut to 60 minutes like hello This is Rowan Brooksheel's daughter and I'm reporting to you live from the chicken plant of southern Missouri These chickens these rotisserie chickens are being mass produced But the quality is yet to be determined. That's why I Rowan Brooksheel's daughter will be taking one home and be doing some on the field testing I have a large bag and I'm taking three rotisserie chickens home I will report back to you Leslie's all thank you Also Georgian prayers are taking a petty cap through the city and She's like um yeah, I basically know somehow cuz like I'll walk in the parade. I was like a candy king girl So like we're friends. Oh great. You know who did not ask me to wash my hands? Sano

41:44And a mirror is doing a photo shoot for Mary Mary how's Mary clear? Mary Claire um Or as they would say at the Detroit International Airport. Oh is Mary clear available? Miracleer flight okay, American Airlines B.S. and your Miracleer Um, so I'm yours. Mary clear the entire flight is boarded If you don't get your little two to her over here, we're closing the doors on and then guess what you're gonna be Murray scared okay, because you're not gonna have a flight out of here You're gonna come up here. You're gonna say can I get another flight? And I'm gonna say no because I have a microphone up in an asking your name for over an hour where you been one of the rocking chairs Those will get you every time Beijing American the earliest B.S. and your Mary clear your flight to Delaware is about to depart at eight 23 So please get it get over here so that way you do not miss your flight to Delaware if that's Marock and the Arles B.S. and your Mary clear Mirror every deal aware Well, what am I wrapping right now? I'm not wrapping. It's an actual name and an actual flight okay

42:46Miracleer, American Air P.G. American Airlines B.S. and your Mary clear Um, uh, we believe that you left your peer at the ticketing gate So would you please come over and claim your peer that's for Mary clear you there much if you dare Mary clear Come to Delaware and claim your peer Uh, P.G. American Airlines B.S. and your Mary clear Just why don't let you know that we found a lower fear for you for your flight to Delaware Just don't forget to pick up your peer at the desk If you dare So Miras telling us she's shooting and she's like it's so glamorous like I I'm just so excited to be here The only problem is I'm barfing everywhere because I'm finally ill so we see her running to the bathroom to barf And then she keeps going back in and she's like but I can do this. She's like throwing her legs up in the air She's like doing all these poses uh, which are very bold with a Bubbleguts and then we go back to Georgia and Perez in their petty cat and Georgia's like

43:46This is so fucking corny what I'm about to say but like When I would think about my dream partner. It's you He's like corny honey. That was beautiful. Oh I'd say it's going well overall with us, right Well, I have no major grievances So whatever girl wants to hear I have no major grievances. Hmm Wow, it's getting married immediately get just someone get a bed warm. I'm all right So she's like, but do you have any words of praise for me? And he says I would say you have beauty in both physical but also Inside an emotional sense as well. She's like oh my god. That was so good like over there. Yes. Last year I've grown smarter a wiser more beautiful I haven't got grocery stores to carry war groceries Which is what's not really talked about enough and the change has been good You know, I'm starting my own product company. I don't know what it's going to be called yuck or messy Like I don't think any of those are really trademarkable. So

44:49You maybe one of this is called you I was thinking about like making it something that's like sort of expressing how we're like turning the tide on germ So maybe you calling it like tide? I don't know So Georgia is like by the way, my lights flickered in here Creepy um Georgia says It's Georgia's Georgia's reaching through the through the internet being like don't speak badly about my brand Uh, she could really talk with a hot dog right now So then we go to Liam's apartment and Liam is picking up clothes And there's a text from Ariana saying that she's meeting with Hudson Because Hudson wants to see the dogs So she says she might invite Hudson to the new beginnings party which I'm sure um That's what everyone wants to hear that Hudson's gonna be somewhere It is a new beginnings by the way because Hudson has um His changes haircut he cut his hair and now he's got sort of like uh Courthouse hair because his hair now sort of looks like the pediment like the little triangle on top of the front of the courthouse

45:53It's it's cuter. It's an improvement Okay, he also looks really different. I don't know if he's like lost a lot of weight He looks different than we've seen him looking before So they go meet up and he's like hey just wanted to say really I'm sorry about being disrespectful about your space and stuff And she's like yeah, well like I forgive you for everything like I know you're just trying to figure it out But You know, let's have a relationship talk. I miss you, but like not like that I miss you like my friend and he's like just want to hold your hand right now. She's like now They'll not be holding hands. It's like uh Don't you want to do right now? She's like no because then I'll break my routine and then we'll be Wetted and chicken bliss again. I don't know that I want that. I don't know. I can't hold your hand right now She's this is I think this was creepy and be like please hold my hand. Please please He's fine. She's just fine. I'm like okay fine. I'll hold your hand Don't give in girl. Don't give in

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