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Where do we stand on Cat Hickman's sweatshirt 24 hours later?

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Nick and Jonathan talk about the buzz surrounding Browns assistant GM, Catherine Hickman's sweatshirt from yesterday and why they feel the discourse has gone too far.

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Where do we stand on Cat Hickman's sweatshirt 24 hours later?

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Afternoon Drive on The FanWhere do we stand on Cat Hickman's sweatshirt 24 hours later?. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.

Nick and Jonathan back on the fan here live from Dave and Busters in West Lake. As we are ahead of the band anniversary here, I haven't fun so far. In one of these breaks we have been told, I think actually it's been requested that we get into a pop a shot contest with listeners. Okay, like me and you at the same time or like me. I mean, versus a listener, the new versus a listener. I always requested this by the way. You can tell me this. It was our events team. Christy, Christy has the idea. I didn't know. I didn't know this the thing. They told me to tell you. I think they might think I might have a better chance of getting you to do it. I think the word on the street is, yeah. You might not want to be fun at this. And so I don't know. These are not. I'm not on the street. I'm just saying that word on the street. That's exactly what I was thinking.

They're going to go to you to be like, oh, yeah, nickel soften them up. Nickel, nickel get them over. Yeah. What kind of diva do you people think I am? Do you want that answer? The type that would say you people. Yeah. So, is that what that is? And then we answered our own question there. All right, then. However, we will be doing that. And today goes on. If you guys haven't been out here, as I've said, I've gone to the back a few times to check it out. And it really, it says, if you designed a place for Nick Wilson to want to hang out for more than four hours, I could honestly just live here. Right? We could make that a room over there. They've got food and booze. That's all I really need. Yeah. And then the games, I would just, I would lose so much weight here between the booze and that. That would happen. But the boozing in the games, I would just forget about the food. Really, for my own lifestyle. I got no evidence. That would be the truth. Well, yeah, yet, I haven't lived here yet. This is the one that changes here. Yeah. This is the one that all of a sudden, all those steps from, uh, from what the pop a shot to the ski ball, pop a shot to ski ball, then over to the Mario card.

A lot of great things about David Buster. And everyone's been like, this is where you lose weight. Like a several times, several times I'll go over to the human crane. And I'm like, not yet, not yet. I'll have a little scale there. And I'll just once I get below a solid. Yeah. Oh, I don't need that number. Once I get below a certain number, maybe I'll attempt it. Can we put Jake up in the crane? Can we talk to our promotions team about that? Can we put him up in the human crane? I actually think he would be awesome at that. I think he wants to do it. We went by earlier. He talked about it. He seemed like he really wanted to do it in partake. We just need now our promotion staff to get on board. Jake, can you confirm her to Nye? I'm OK. I'm OK with whatever. Oh, yeah. I told you. He's down. He's down to one. See, this is what the streets say about Jake Murn. He wants down to clown like Charlie Brown. Dare I say he wants to do the human crane. I've been to a few David Buster's never seen the human crane. Think it'd be a good time. Look at that. What did you know? Jake is like a big David Buster's guy. Really? Him and his wife go to David Buster all the time. Going three times a year is like all the time, according to J.P. I told that earlier. Relatively speaking. All the time. You told me her, she loves this location in particular

because they have the best version of Cornhole relative to the other locations. The idea that you know which locations have the best Cornhole tells me you're pretty big David Buster's guy. Honestly, I did not have this on my bingo card for you. And the fact, I feel like we got a new layer to Jake Murn today. You just got five more percent fun in my head. Like, when I think of you, I'm like, David Buster's guy. I'll take that. Yeah. Five percent. We work, see works all the way to get to David Buster's that's right. Yeah. Like, I get it. We all got to live for something, right? Right? I'm living for my kids. Jonathan's living for his kids. You're living for David Buster's not okay. That's why we need him in that human crane. That's true. That's a big moment for Jake. I don't even know that you'd win a prize. But yeah, how do you know when a prize in the human crane? If my kids can do it, that didn't sound great. If my kids can do it, I think Jake Murn would be it. They almost would have to ban him. He's too good at the human crane. Now, which one of you are controlling it? Oh, you don't want me there. No, that's not good. I don't know. I kind of just thought you'd just be flailing your arms around and figuring out in your own way.

I guess scooting out who's going to run. Yeah. Just kind of like scooting around and then like, all right, drop me now, guys, then we press a button and you just drop. I would like that power. But I'll control you. If you want that to happen. Actually, it should be you. I'd like to do that. It should be you because you're the... It's been him around. It would be great. Yeah. Wait, why should I be the control guy in this? Because aren't you the guru at these games? I am pretty decent claw machines. So I think we'd be set up for this. Just as long as Elise isn't here, you'd have success at that. She just echoes me so much during those games. She just wants the best for me in every way in life except when it comes to claw machine games, she just wants me to not be good at them. I'm going to be your work Elise. When you're there, I'm going to be in your cage a little bit and make you better. I think she knows I need to be pushed in some avenues in life. I thought that is. And the claw machine just did. That's the one. I was like the Sean Watson with that claw machine. Once I got heckled, I was toast. Mentally, I could not recover. Which way were you like to Sean just be clear? Mentally. Okay. Pity me. Pity me please. Mentally. By the way, we got to Pete Futick coming up in about 40 minutes time.

One more check in on the cat Hickman thing because it's still all over social media. And again, like I... The American Cabin, I thought, had a really, really great, impassioned plea when she joined the Morning Boys today about Twitter going over the line when it came to cat Hickman. 100% that was going too far. This woman is so intelligent. She speaks four languages. She's a great talent evaluator. She's got three young children. And the last thing on her mind when she left the house in the morning was making sure that she had the perfect appropriate outfit on that Twitter was going to love. I mean, it's just ridiculous. And then if one person makes the comment, then everybody has to pile on. And that's just the world that we live in right now. But I think it's horrible because she's just a fantastic, personal executive and any team would be thrilled to have her. I don't know cat Hickman or Andrew Berry or the people in front office, the way that

Mary Kay does. She is on that beach. She has day to day interactions with them of the many things I've thought about cat Hickman and Andrew Berry in this front office. I doubt their process. I don't love the smug tone that sometimes can come from the organization. By the way, I don't usually think it's from the front office. I think it's from a little higher up. But like, I just think we've definitely, we've gone too far with some of the attacks on cat Hickman. What if you think there's some sort of thought behind that shirt? Cat Hickman's not why you're a miserable browns fan. It's just not, nor should you be making a case of her. Yeah, I mean, it feels like a very Jeff Phelps thing where I'm like, yet Twitter sometimes brings out the worst in people. So maybe just, maybe just don't pay attention to Twitter on this one. Yeah, no, I think this goes above and beyond that actually. Does it? Yeah, I think when people are saying a question in her and I'm missing all of this if this is happening. Yeah, I mean, there are people saying she's not qualified for a job. There's a lot of prejudice. Is there a lot of prejudice? I think there's a specific element that once you get above a certain point, when I, when

I see like, why see Browns fans, I know we're good folks and that I've had a lot of positive interactions with. I see them, even if they're not going to the misogynistic side of things, at least agreeing with the chuds out there who discredit everything that everybody does, people who are 10 times smarter than them, 10 times more successful than them, saying some of those things. I think that's specific to the, and I think Mary Kay has it right. It's the level of hate that cat hit and got. I don't know what this level is though. You can fill me in. It'd be great because I didn't see it. Open Twitter. I don't want to read the tweets on air. I mean, they're there for anyone. Again, all I said today is I think we've lost the plot with this cat, Hickman sweatshirt thing. I'm shocked. And we would have thought I said the Dishon trade was the best trade that's ever been made. Oh, yes. Oh, right. I'm so rake. Like in your replies, is that what you're saying? Yeah. I guess I'm shocked. We're talking about it for two days. That's a surprise to me. I'm surprised that any type of outfit that somebody would wear at a press conference would

garner that much. I told you what I thought about it earlier. I told you the same thing yesterday. I thought it was an inside joke. I thought it was one of those things. It's like, all right, yeah, where the Los Angeles may be. Do it shirt. And then we'll laugh about it later. And it is what it is. That's all I read into it. It doesn't change my opinion of cat Hickman one bit or one Iota. And it just, it's all where do we stand with cat Hickman sweatshirt 24 hours later. If you want to be furious about the Dishon decision, there are definitely ways you can go ahead and vent it. If you want to go ahead and be mad that she was glib yesterday. I don't have a problem with that. That person is way too successful, way too smart for some of the things that have been said there and they've gone over the line. And listen, I have pretty much been an angry browns fan with all of this. You know, I have joined many of you in raging against that organization. And I understand it can be tough to keep it from going personal. I think that of all the things that I've seen of any of the stories, including of Dishon. This one felt like the most personal and that is just insane to me.

You have to send me some screenshots, I guess. I'd rather not. I'd rather maybe you go looking for it. I don't want to go look for it. I go to the human claw machine. It hasn't crossed my time. I go over to, you live a very sheltered life, Jonathan. Is that it? No, I need to start heckling you. Twitter gives you one thing and then it just won't let go of it. Yeah, that's probably the thing that I saw 99% of today. And we come back the first sign that the browns will be in the old team machine as it's known in five minutes right here on 92-3, the fan.

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